Obama-mercial was ratings hit

Barack Obama may or may not have swayed many undecided voters with his 30-minute campaign infomercial Wednesday night, which included an endorsement from Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. But the program was a ratings hit, exceeding the combined regular ratings of all the network shows that normally run during that time period. The Hollywood Reporter joked: “If Barack Obama fails to win the election, perhaps the networks should hire him to entertain viewers on Wednesday nights.”

94 Comments

  1. Regular
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    I’m sure the infomercial gave BrownLib a thrill up his leg.

  2. JMWalker
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    Regular Posted October 31, 2008 at 6:04 am | Permalink
    I’m sure the infomercial gave BrownLib a thrill up his leg.
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    As usual, the right-wingers can’t start the day without shooting the messenger.

  3. george
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    Obama the Messiah for losers. I could not bring my self to watch this. Of course I knew in advance dems and libs would get their jollies with O,who has no experience and no accomplishments.

  4. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    The Democrats don’t consider Obama to be the Messiah but the Republicans including non-Christian McCain keep refering to him as such.

    Why are they so afraid? If he is the Messiah as they claim, why do they ridicule him and mock him and then turn their back on him ?

    I guess they fear and hate the truth.

  5. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    george do you think Obama is the Messiah? You keep saying he is.

  6. GunhugnGodNut
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    “The Democrats don’t consider Obama to be the Messiah but the Republicans including non-Christian McCain keep refering to him as such.”

    It was Farrahkhan and the Nation of Islam who proclaimed BHO the “Messiah”.

    How do you know McCain is non-Christian? Do you know him personally? His incarceration as a POW demonstates his devotion to this country. Noone without faith could have withstood the punishment he took and not become a physical and mental wreck.

  7. CF2K
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Looks like Obama is closing the deal, if yesterday’s polls are any indication.

    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/pres_08/

    It’s been funny to watch the media try to engineer a horse race by cherry picking specific polls.

    The fact that Obama never once mentioned McCain in his piece, and that all McCain could do was attack Obama, pretty much tells you everything you need to know about who’s fit to lead this country and who isn’t.

  8. CF2K
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    GunhugnGodNut,

    Louis Farrakahn doesn’t decide who is and isn’t the Messiah, for Democrats or anyone other than his followers, thanks.

    From where I sit, McCain’s time in captivity very much appears to have made him a mental wreck.

  9. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    How do you know McCain is non-Christian? Do you know him personally?

    McCain has not hidden the fact that while he attends a church regularly, he has NEVER “come forward to receive Christ”. His minister has said the same of McCain. To most Christians, it is the public demonstration of faith and belief that Jesus is Lord and Saviour, that makes one a Christian.

  10. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    Obama readily admits that he is Christian and that Jesus Christ is his saviour. Obama also knows when he became “saved”.

    McCain…nada.

  11. Phantom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    Since his poll ratings went up also, looks like it was a hit.
    Maybe they’ll have a rerun for the repubs that missed it the first time.

  12. Phantom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    They mocked Jesus as the messiah too.

  13. ghotiphaze
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    I’ve noticed many who “attends a church regulary” are the least christian people in my aquaintance. I’ve aquaintences who are TRULY christian and sometimes go and sometimes don’t make it to church on a given week. Plus you have to consider all the people who are christian by deed and not by dogma.

  14. GMC70
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    Maybe they’ll have a rerun for the repubs that missed it the first time.

    Great. That’ll give me an opportunity to organize my sock drawer, something emminently more useful than drooling on a fluff piece.

  15. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Was it only one major network he did not buy in?
    It was on all the channels. Of course it’s a ratings hit.

  16. Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    Gee, I wonder why McCain didn’t also buy time on three networks to put forward his vision for a better America?

    1. His vision is to continue the failed policies of Worst. President. Ever. except more so (tax cuts for the richest).

    2. He doesn’t have the money.

  17. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    It was a ratings hit beating normal programming INDIVIDUALLY on all the outlets it was on.

    DUH.

  18. mom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    How do you know McCain is non-Christian? Do you know him personally? His incarceration as a POW demonstates his devotion to this country. Noone without faith could have withstood the punishment he took and not become a physical and mental wreck

    How does devotion to this country translate to whether or not McCain is a Christian? You stated
    ‘no one without faith’ – faith comes in all forms – not just Christian. I know alot of non-Christians who live better lives than so-called Evangelical Christians.

    But I must say, the fact Mcain dumped his first wife, courted Cindy while still married and then marrying Cindy a month after his divorce was final would certainly seem to qualify him for the hypocritical Evangelical Christian vote.

  19. Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Well, actually he DOES have the money, thanks to Cindy “Budweiser” McCain.

    But of course he’s not going to spend his own money.

    He might have to sell a couple of houses or some of his yachts . . .

  20. Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    Agreed, Mom.

    But wait, there’s more.

    He dumped his first wife after a crippling accident left her deformed.

    Yeah.

    So much for that “in sickness and in health” BS.

  21. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:06 am | Permalink
    Gee, I wonder why McCain didn’t also buy time on three networks to put forward his vision for a better America?

    1. His vision is to continue the failed policies of Worst. President. Ever. except more so (tax cuts for the richest).

    2. He doesn’t have the money.
    ————————————————–

    #2.
    More importantly however, why didn’t Obama follow his policy and spread the wealth around?

  22. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    mom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:08 am | Permalink
    How do you know McCain is non-Christian? Do you know him personally? His incarceration as a POW demonstates his devotion to this country. Noone without faith could have withstood the punishment he took and not become a physical and mental wreck

    How does devotion to this country translate to whether or not McCain is a Christian? You stated
    ‘no one without faith’ – faith comes in all forms – not just Christian. I know alot of non-Christians who live better lives than so-called Evangelical Christians.

    But I must say, the fact Mcain dumped his first wife, courted Cindy while still married and then marrying Cindy a month after his divorce was final would certainly seem to qualify him for the hypocritical Evangelical Christian vote.
    ————————————————–

    I really don’t think you have an idea what the Evangelical faith is really all about.

  23. ghotiphaze
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    “I really don’t think you have an idea what the Evangelical faith is really all about”

    They lead by example.

  24. lindainks55
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    “They lead by example.”

    I read it here day after day.

  25. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    By being un perfect people in need of a savior, yes

  26. ghotiphaze
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Kia, I’d agree with your position if those espousing those beliefs were nearly as intent on thier own souls as they are on the souls of others.

  27. Phantom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Mccain should’ve just bought five minutes, he could’ve covered all his false accusations in that time.

  28. Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    I wonder … might it have been a good strategy for Obama to give the last 5 minutes or so to local candidates for Congress?

  29. SolDevVB
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Spreading the wealth… How much did Obama and Biden spread to charaties last year?

    Good for the gander, not the goose.

  30. ANTI
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    Obama really showed up Ron-Co…

    But I did miss the ‘Act Now!’ and ‘All this for $19.95′ slogans!

  31. MaxGrobnik
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Yes, Obama fans thought this infomercial was a big hit.

    Obama fans were heard chanting:

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  32. MaxGrobnik
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    S

  33. Phantom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Bwaaaaah, mccain/palin aren’t The Ones!

  34. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    I hate to quote or refer to the talking heads but I think Rush said it best yesterday when he said in watching this you would have thought that The New Deal and The Great Society programs never happened.
    We have enough social programs in this country already. We don’t need more.

  35. mom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Mr_Kia
    I really don’t think you have an idea what the Evangelical faith is really all about.
    =====

    That is where you are dead wrong Mr. Kia. I was in that group for several years and I saw firsthand how rabid, hate-filled and nasty Evangelical Christians can be – and that was in the late 70’s and 80’s – they are worse now.

    Besides that, one only has to look as far as Ted Haggard, Pat Robertson, John Hagee, Rod Parsley, the late Jerry Falwell to see how nasty and ill-tempered this group is and not to mention, hypocritical!

    This Evangelical Movement is all about power and money – that is the God these Evangelicals worship.

    But don’t ask me, just ask any average voter who is fed up with the Radical Right Evangelical Christians who have muscled into the political power and has brought this country nothing but a failed economy and an endless war with a promise of more wars.

  36. mom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink
    I hate to quote or refer to the talking heads but I think Rush said it best yesterday when he said in watching this you would have thought that The New Deal and The Great Society programs never happened.
    We have enough social programs in this country already. We don’t need more

    ___

    If you don’t want socialism – then you surely don’t want taxpayer money being redistributed to the wealthiest individuals and corporations – right? This group gets their welfare checks at the government trough – you betcha!

    You have shown your bias by quoting Rush – enough said.

  37. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    You mention a handful of names that aren’t exactly good stewards of the faith if you will.
    What about Rick Warren? Billy Graham?
    Would you prefer your President seeking counsel from one of them or Jeremiah Wright?

  38. brian_nuevo
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    I challenge the anti-socialists on here to give me the name of any political candidate from one either the Republican or Democratic party who does not support at least some ’socialist’ policies.
    I betcha can’t do it!

  39. mom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink
    By being un perfect people in need of a savior, yes

    The only time Jesus showed his temper was when he ran the vendors out of the Temple. I see the Evangelical Christian movement as the current day vendors in the Temple – they are there just for the money! If you doubt that, just look at the multi million dollar campuses (they don’t even call them churches anymore).

    And then when they get their hand caught in the cookie jar – they plead this ‘I’m unperfect line’.

  40. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    MaxGrobnik,

    How many times did you hit yourself on the side of your head with a heavy iron frying pan to think of your very stupid 10:35 am post?

    McCain is the one chanting about Obama’s “socialism”(sic) — and McCain earlier opposed the temporary tax cut on the wealthy, that he is now attacking Obama for wanting to roll back.

  41. brian_nuevo
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    “Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink
    You mention a handful of names that aren’t exactly good stewards of the faith if you will.
    What about Rick Warren? Billy Graham?
    Would you prefer your President seeking counsel from one of them or Jeremiah Wright?”

    Part of me thinks the President should stay away from all of the people you named. The other part doesn’t care who they talk to, it is good to listen to and consider varied viewpoints, they should consult with Muslim and Jewish religious leaders as well.

  42. okobserver
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Mom you just quoted the party line when you lined up the bad boys of the Christian faith and proclaimed them as being the face of Christianity today. Men are human and make mistakes. Jerry Falwell for one lived his faith, practiced it by giving a home to any pregnant woman unable to care for herself, and giving of his own resources to any genuinely needing help. He said some thing he shouldn’t have said and apologized for those. And who could discount Billy Graham, his humility and all of the good he has done all over the globe.

    But you had a bad experience and the whole Christian faith was to blame.

    Again we have inserted the lefts hatred in the middle of an Obama thread. Interesting.

  43. Mr_Kia
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    well every President since Truman has received counsel or prayer with Rev. Graham.
    Both Obama and McCain appears with Rick Warren in a Q&A session at his church.

  44. Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    We don’t need more.

    KIA, what countty have been living the past 28 years?

    “More” of FDR or LBJ has not been on the agenda, not even under Clinton. More of Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge is a littler closer to reality.

    If Obama dared to advocate the tax structure under friggin’ Eisenhower, he’d be called Chairman Mao by some.

  45. Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    P.S. Regarding Rick Warren, while I understand this statement, I think he is simply wrong:

    Warren did say, though, he couldn’t vote for an atheist. “An atheist says, ‘I don’t need God,’” Warren said. “They’re saying, ‘I’m totally self-sufficient in myself,’ and nobody’s self-sufficient enough to be president — it’s too big a job.”

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/08/18/sunday_at_saddleback/index.html

    No one person carries the world on their shoulders. Some look to the heavens for their strength, others find it here on Earth. C’est la vie.

  46. XXX
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    I don’t understand how republicans, the “country first” crowd can support McCain in the first place. When he was a POW, he was a Collaborator, a traitor. The huge majority of POWs didn’t sell out like McCain did.

    Did you know?:
    Nobody ever saw McCain being tortured. So we have to take his word for it?

  47. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    XXX,

    Wow. The liberals (and you) are the first to believe that our troops are torturing prisoners in gitmo but question someone like McCain claiming to be tortured by the NVA.

  48. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    McCain has a proven track record with the troops. That is why we support him.

    XXX,

    Exactly how did McCain betray his country or collaborate?

  49. RFL
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    mom,
    Before you pass judgment collectively on an entire faith, you migh want to consider the worship facilities of the average christian here in the states as well as around the wordl.

    The christians in China for example are limited to small groups since large groups of a unrecognized church worship service is illegal. they hold church in houses of certian believers.
    The law as actually helped christianity spread by forcing the spread of more churches and allowing a closer knit church body. Once a church body reaches the limit (about 20 people) they have to split off and create another church.

    Here in America, there are countless churches (christian and not) who have facilities that are maintained via the volunteered time and resources of ony a handfull of church members.

    But if it makes sense for you the generalize a faith that is shared by millions worldwide by looking a a few mega-churches here in the states attended by thousands, by all means continue to do so,.

  50. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel” –

    Read the transcripts of John S (for Snitch) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) selling out his country:

    http://ktracy.com/?p=1785

  51. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Nathaniel posted October 31, 2008 at 11:55 am

    McCain has a proven track record with the troops. That is why we support him.
    ————–

    McCain’s knowledge(sic) will probably give the troops lots of work, if he is CiC.

    ‘Senile McCain does not know Shiite Shi’a from Sunni’
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkfM7z0-Vdg

  52. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    MonkeyHawk,

    Yeah, McCain spoke of this. McCain said his actions were dishonorable, but that every man has his breaking point.

    I might think that we could cut him some slack figuring that even today he bears the wounds from his mistreatment there.

    He was beat and tortured. (Well, unless you think he is a liar and believe the NVA like XXX)

  53. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    I am almost positive that McCain knows the difference and merely mis-spoke.

    I have no need to play the gotcha word game you love to play.

  54. Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Interesting:

    “>> Among all seven networks, the time period typically draws a total of 30.3 million — so Obama increased their viewership by about 11%.

    The entertainment programming that usually runs in the slot on NBC, CBS and Fox averages 23.1 million viewers each week since the start of the season, roughly 9% lower than the Obama ad total on those networks (which is 25.5 million).”

    I’d be real interested in knowing what fraction of those still undecided watched the informercial. And did it sway them?

  55. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Ben,

    Almost as interesting as to why you refuse to back up the crap you say about the Marines in Lebanon.

  56. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Nathaniel posted October 31, 2008 at 12:23 pm
    Cosmos,

    I am almost positive that McCain knows the difference and merely mis-spoke.

    I have no need to play the gotcha word game you love to play.
    ———–

    McCain misspoke four (or more) times, on different days?

  57. Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    I’d be real interested in knowing what fraction of those still undecided watched the informercial. And did it sway them?

    It might have. I thought the dramatic music throughout and general approach were a bit much, but gotta keep in mind that a lot of undecided voters haven’t been paying that much attention to the race.

    What we saw was, literally, a 30-minute ad and, for those who vote on the basis of 30-second ads, it might have made a difference.

  58. Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    cosmos – didn’t Lieberman have to repeatedly correct McCain on the Sunni/Shiite distinction?

  59. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    I don’t recall the conversations completely, but yes.

  60. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel” squirms after being caught in a lie –

    ” McCain said his actions were dishonorable, but that every man has his breaking point.”

    Then why did you ask your little junior high faux-naive question, boy?

    You now say you knew about McCain’s sell-out all along.

    “He was beat and tortured.”

    Not according to George WMD Bush and (The Big) Dick Cheney. And not, after McTurncoat flip-flopped on the Gitmo and Abu Ghraib issue, he doesn’t think it was torture either.

  61. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    MonkeyHawk,

    Since when did asking a quesiton make someone a liar?

    You truly are an idiot. There are specific rules for the treatment of POW’s.

    So you mischaracterize what the President and Vice President have said in regards to very specific interrogation techniques and say they don’t think what happened to McCain is torture.

    Not only are you an idiot, but you really have no clue what you are talking about.

  62. lindainks55
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Is there really such a thing as a person who is “undecided?” WHO is this? Are there people who wake up on Nov. 4th and sometime during their day learn there is an election and hurry to cast their vote without having given it some thought and study in the weeks leading up to that day?

    Even the people who state there is NO difference between the candidates of the two major parties have made up their minds not to vote for either of the two.

    To most the differences are stark! More so this year than others.

    I ask again, is there really such a thing as a person who is undecided?

  63. Regular
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    #
    lindainks55
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Is there really such a thing as a person who is “undecided?” WHO is this? Are there people who wake up on Nov. 4th and sometime during their day learn there is an election and hurry to cast their vote without having given it some thought and study in the weeks leading up to that day?

    Even the people who state there is NO difference between the candidates of the two major parties have made up their minds not to vote for either of the two.

    To most the differences are stark! More so this year than others.

    I ask again, is there really such a thing as a person who is undecided?
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    An undecided, about 80 percent of them anyway are the people who decide on election day that they still have procrastinated by not making a decision.

    Twenty percent of the total will make a decision. The other eighty percent will stay at home or simply not go to the polls because sleeping in, going shopping, playing a round of golf or whacking on the ol’ flesh puppet is more appealing to them than voting so they invoke the apathy of indecision to not vote.

  64. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Linda,

    I think there are. If you spend some time with many different people, especially younger adults in their early 20’s, they couldn’t even tell you who their State Representatives are let alone answer any questions about the Constitution or other Government officials in History.

    Have you ever watched Man on the street with Jay Leno?

    Trust me, there are wishy washy people out there who have no clue what the issues are or what either candidate stands for and will go vote based on the last feeling they had before they leave the house.

    Of course this number is small, but they exist.

    Most people like this are usually too lazy to vote or too stupid. Which probably isn’t a bad thing.

  65. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel” whines –

    “Since when did asking a quesiton make someone a liar?”

    When the, ahem, “quesiton” is asked as feigned ignorance.

    Thing is, boy, every time you ask your little naive questions it’s natural to assume you (as a good Christian and judge thereof) wouldn’t lie and are honestly sharing your ignorance.

    You ignorance, after all, wouldn’t surprise anyone.

    “You truly are an idiot.”

    And you are reduced to name-calling, boy. Hardly worthy behavior for an ex-Marine.

  66. Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    I ask again, is there really such a thing as a person who is undecided?

    Sure. They don’t follow politics, know little and care less. They’re exhausted when they come from work, and flip on the tube to watch “Survivor.” Even those who are smart enough to participate in governance may feel too overwhelmed, ironically, because of the hard times. Immediate survival comes first.

    But they know when their 401k takes a huge hit, or the plant lays them off after 20 years. Then they have to figure out who’s to blame. I don’t doubt that, at this point, their numbers are small, but I suspect more of the apolitical types are still deciding then one might think.

    But the simplest aspect of Obama’s message (Bush = McCain) does not bode well for the GOP.

  67. brian_nuevo
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink
    MonkeyHawk,

    Since when did asking a quesiton make someone a liar?

    You truly are an idiot. There are specific rules for the treatment of POW’s.”

    I thought Bush and Cheney suspended those.
    (I truly think they have endangered future US troops that are captured)

  68. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    MonkeyHawk,

    I ask questions to challange what others say, not feign ignorance.

    However, you spare no opportunity to try to attack my character and then I call you an idiot.

    Then you cry about my calling you an idiot?

    I do not call you an idiot just to call you names, I call you an idiot because I truly believe you are one.

  69. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Brian,

    Why would you think something like that? It is not true.

  70. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Brian,

    Also, in nearly every battle and war we have faught since the Geneva conventions have been signed the enemy has not treated our troops accordingly.

    This idea that somehow now, our troops will not be treated well, is false.

    Our troops were being decapitated, tortured, and killed long before Bush or Cheney did anything.

    How much worse do you think they could be treated now?

  71. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel” –

    When have I ever attacked your character, boy?

    And I apologize for the implied accusation you feign ignorance. I understand it’s real.

  72. wichhick
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    hopefully we will have no math calculations from capnamerica

  73. brian_nuevo
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink
    Brian,

    Also, in nearly every battle and war we have faught since the Geneva conventions have been signed the enemy has not treated our troops accordingly.

    This idea that somehow now, our troops will not be treated well, is false.

    Our troops were being decapitated, tortured, and killed long before Bush or Cheney did anything.

    How much worse do you think they could be treated now?”

    I think all bets will be off.

  74. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Brian,

    All bets were off before this. Who is it that you think is going to treat our troops worse now?

    Who exactly?

  75. Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Joe Meyers,

    You are a worthless pig. While you attempt to mock me for my feigning ignorance you do so yourself.

    Idiot.

  76. Posted October 31, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Obama is at 51 percent in “traditional likely voters.”

    51 percent means that every last undecided voter (i.e. idiot) broke for McCain, you still can’t win.

    Say goodnight, CONs. Your sun has set.

  77. Posted October 31, 2008 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Oops, that last post had math in it, Wichhick.

    Sorry.

    I know that quantifiable statistics and analysis aren’t the strong suit of the CONs . . .

  78. Posted October 31, 2008 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    You’re probably right, Capn, but a quick reminder:
    *********************
    Mellman said all those polls assume that every Obama supporter will turn out to vote, and that every volunteer will do what it takes to turn out the vote.

    “Don’t believe for one second in these polls,” Obama told a crowd of 35,000 people outside Orlando, Fla., late Wednesday night. “Power concedes nothing. We are going to work over the next five days like our lives depended on it. We’re going to have to struggle.”

    When Obama talks of that election struggle, others have a hard time believing. His consistent lead in the polls has even become part of the late-night TV comedy conversation.

    Craig Ferguson of CBS’ “Late Late Show” put it this way: “Obama is so far ahead now, seems the only way he can lose is if his supporters screw it up. But aha! Obama’s supporters have a secret weakness: They are Democrats.”

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hhQn_yRuJBemJTnEGdUsNeF8K7qQD945LBGO0

  79. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel” simpers –

    “Joe Meyers,

    You are a worthless pig. While you attempt to mock me for my feigning ignorance you do so yourself.

    Idiot.”

    Ah, the old “I’m rubber and you’re glue…” defense.

    I bet you win all your arguments down by the slippery slide, boy.

    As long as you’re packin’ heat.

  80. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    The boy caresses his gun, rubs it tenderly, and smells it with the love one normally would give a human partner…

  81. Regular
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    #
    Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel” simpers –

    “Joe Meyers,

    You are a worthless pig. While you attempt to mock me for my feigning ignorance you do so yourself.

    Idiot.”

    Ah, the old “I’m rubber and you’re glue…” defense.

    I bet you win all your arguments down by the slippery slide, boy.

    As long as you’re packin’ heat.
    ————————–
    Maybe you’ll meet the same fate as that Colorado radio talk show guy.

    Society would be much better off.

  82. Boxlock
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s mania-commercials were BORING!

    Now this gug isn’t.
    He just keeps coming up with hit songs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S81brjpteDk

  83. Phantom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Obamamercial was mercurial! The stations should’ve paid him for giving them a ratings boost.

  84. Posted October 31, 2008 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Phantom, just remember… CNN gave McCain an entire HOUR of FREE TIME… to answer Obama… Looks like McCain likes “spreading the wealth” if he gets a benefit from it…

  85. Phantom
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Wonder how many viewers mcnut pulled in?

  86. Boxlock
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    Barack Obama Looks Like Alfred E. Newman, except Mr. Newman looks more intelligent and human.

    http://lookliker.com/2008/10/05/barack-obama-looks-like-alfred-e-newman/

  87. Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Sour grapes!

  88. XXX
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    #
    Nathaniel
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    McCain has a proven track record with the troops. That is why we support him.

    XXX,

    Exactly how did McCain betray his country or collaborate?
    ________________________________________________

    Nathan, you’re a smart kid. But do you know how to use Google? You could have looked this up yourself. That McCain was a collaborator isn’t even questionable. Everybody (except you, apparently) knows it.

    “According to documentation obtained by the U.S. Veteran Dispatch, not only did POW McCain promise to give the communists “military information” in exchange for special hospital care not ordinarily available to U.S. prisoners, but he also made numerous antiwar radio broadcasts.

    Article V of the Code of Conduct is very specific in declaring that U.S. military personnel are required to avoid answering questions to the utmost of their ability and to make no oral or written statements disloyal to the United States and its allies or harmful to their cause. Any violation of this code is considered collaborating with the enemy. ”
    http://www.usvetdsp.com/mccainpic.htm

    Nathan, I think Article V is pretty clear, don’t you?

    McCain is a collaborator and a traitor. The huge majority of POWs did their duty and didn’t render aid and comfort to the enemy. Too bad McCain wasn’t as good a soldier as his fellow prisoners.

    And as I said before, nobody EVER saw McCain tortured.

  89. BlueJay
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    SO when McCain made his “my fellow prisoners” gaffe, he may have been projecting his lingering guilt.

  90. JMWalker
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    #
    Regular
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 5:19 pm | Permalink.
    ————————–
    Maybe you’ll meet the same fate as that Colorado radio talk show guy.

    Society would be much better off.
    =========================================================
    Brave man, Regular. That talk show guy was killed by a coward. Is that what you represent, Regular, cowards? That comes as no surprise at all.

  91. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    “Regular” –

    Don’t think I didn’t have Alan Berg qualms sometimes as I left KPHN and walked to my car in the parking lot below the Mulbach Hotel after some particularly contentious broadcasts.

    So your little CON wet-dream of someone opening up on me with an illegally-modified-to-automatic-firing Ingram MAC-10 is not particularly imaginative. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

    But it’s a window to your soul, “Regular.”

  92. Monkeyhawk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    And for those who don’t know about Alan Berg, here’s a concise summary of what “Regular” fantasizes for me:

    http://wfmu.org/LCD/GreatDJ/berg.html

    You’re such a class act, “Regular.”

  93. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    So Regular is proving Bill Clinton’s point. The Republican party has become the party of white male supremacy.

    Look at the crowds McCain/Palin draw. Only white people, mostly male. No diversity.

  94. Posted November 13, 2008 at 3:43 am | Permalink

    Legendary! Great work!!