Obama extending lead, but don’t count McCain out

Barack Obama now holds a 10 percentage point lead over John McCain in both the Gallup tracking poll and the latest Washington Post/ABC News survey. Even more significant, Obama is widening his leads in several battleground states.
Still, Walter Shapiro of Salon suggests it’s premature for Democrats to start working on the Cabinet appointments. John McCain isn’t out of it yet, Shapiro writes, because of the “volatile voter,” a possible October surprise, “another McCain dice roll” (such as a pledge to serve one term or a public repudiation of the Bush administration), and the chance that he might concentrate “his efforts on the battleground 2004 Bush states that he might still hold if everything broke right: Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada, Colorado and Florida.” Shapiro goes on: “As a one-time event, all that is required is for a winning candidate to get lucky, very lucky, on Election Day.”
Republican rocker Ted Nugent offers his own advice for McCain in Human Events, including: “Unleash Palin Power in the key battleground states of Florida, Ohio, Missouri and Pennsylvania. Socialists hate her with a passion. That means she’s good – real good.”

92 Comments

  1. Posted October 14, 2008 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    a public repudiation of the Bush administration)

    That would be interesting …

  2. lindainks55
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    That’s great advice — DO NOT count McCain out! Do not quit working, take nothing for granted.

    Half of Americans are below average. And Americans elected bush — TWICE!

    Does anyone know which candidate Diebold has endorsed?

  3. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t mccain already have someone working on his cabinet appointments (Was it Donal Trump?).
    Ted Nugent is almost as far right as palin.

  4. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Alvin and the Chipmunks are secretely funding ACORN!

  5. littlejohn
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Alvin and the Chipmunks are secretely funding ACORN!

    No, but Obama gave them lots of money for staging and lighting, ooops, that was for getting out the vote. Sorry for the mistake

  6. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Linda,

    Funny that you keep talking about voter fraud with Diebold and the Bush administration while your own candidates conections to ACORN have yet to be mentioned nor their attempts at voter fraud all across the country.

  7. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    These repubs. remind me of that scene in ice age, where that animal is chasing the acorn over the glacier wall.

  8. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    I see that liberal contempt for Americans coming out in you as well Linda.

    Did anyone hear the Howard Stern interviews with people on Obama?

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/13/howard-stern-exposes-why-so-many-people-support-obama

    “Do you think Obama made the right choice in choosing Palin as his running mate?”

    Yes.

    “Obama says he is anti-stem cell research, do you mind that?”

    No, I am anti-Stem cell research.

    “Do you support Obama more because of him being Pro-Life or because he says our troops should stay in Iraq?”

    Both.

    Yeah Linda, the American people are indeed “below average”, but they are the ones voting for Obama.

  9. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Nathaniel posted October 14, 2008 at 11:34 am

    Exactly what “ethics law” did [Sarah Palin] violate?

  10. biased1
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    McCain released his 52 billion dollar economic package. After going through it, the One will “change” it and release HIS.

  11. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos,

    And my question was answered. Thank you for your concern.

  12. Rage
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Show some actual evidence of voter fraud perpetrated by ACORN, and I’ll give that view some respect.

    What I see is ACORN volunteers not doing their jobs, filling out ballot with names like “Mickey Mouse,” so they can get paid without having to work for it.

    Voter fraud requires someone voting who shouldn’t, or someone voting more than once. If you can’t show where this happened, at least show some evidence of an attempt to defraud.

    P.S. If you think my assessment of the situation is somehow the result of bias, you are a fool. I simply look at the facts.

  13. lindainks55
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Only half the American people are below average. Is the truth to that statement not something easily understood? Do we need to find Tara so she can draw a picture?

  14. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    ” a public repudiation of the Bush administration”

    It looks like McCain is already trying to do that.

    McCain, out of bogeymen, blasts Bush
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/10/blasts-bush.html
    “At a rally in Virginia Beach, McCain said:

    We cannot spend the next four years as we have spent much of the last eight: waiting for our luck to change. The hour is late; our troubles are getting worse; our enemies watch. We have to act immediately. We have to change direction now. We have to fight.”
    ————-

    McCain hugs Bush
    http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/election2008/ig/Election-Funny-Pictures/McCain-Bush-Hug.htm

  15. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Rage,

    What a very nice argument: If you think I am wrong you are a fool.

    Brilliant! Why didn’t I think of that?

    Idiot.

  16. Rage
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    P.S. registration forms, not ballots. Wrong word.

  17. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Linda,

    Perhaps you should find Tara since you seem so incapable of ever actually defending your own arguments.

    Good idea.

    At least she will actually attempt to defend the things she says.

  18. Rage
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    What a very nice argument: If you think I am wrong you are a fool.

    Since I said no such thing, or anything even similar to it, well, gee, thanks!

  19. Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Right on Nuge. We need a lot more like terrible Ted out there. Palin is the key. Forget George Will and Kathleen Parker and David Brooks. They aren’t real conservatives anyway. Send her to those States and let her go wild. She drives the left crazy and they have no answer for her. Or keep her on a short leash and muzzled so as not to embarrass McCain and lose the election.

  20. lindainks55
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    And each time fraudulent registration forms are in the news we know everything is working well! They were caught! The application to vote was turned down! I can’t understand why someone thinks finding fraudulent voter registrations isn’t something to celebrate. I want the election to be fair and above board. I want each eligible American to have one vote, and am tickled those trying to commit fraud aren’t being successful.

  21. littlejohn
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    “Only half the American people are below average. Is the truth to that statement not something easily understood? Do we need to find Tara so she can draw a picture?

    And the bottom 40% pay no income taxes. Is the truth to that statement not something easily understood

  22. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Breaking News: FBI confirms Mickey Mouse signature was a forgery.
    After having their handwriting experts examime the voter registrtion signature against a sample taken from Mickey, it was concluded that the probability that it’s a forgery is 99.9 percent.

  23. biased1
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    from_the_cosmos_originally- It looks like McCain is already trying to do that.
    ———————————-
    That isn’t ANYTHING new, McCain has never been in Bushco’s pocket. It is ONLY the Ones campaign (and of course the media) that have been trying to tie him with bush.
    hello?

    bahhhhhhhh………
    bahhhhhhhh………

    feed my sheeple feed……

  24. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Ooooh Palin Gone Wild videos!

  25. Rage
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    And the bottom 40% pay no income taxes. Is the truth to that statement not something easily understood.

    You got a source for that statement? It’s not a particularly credible claim, unless the bottom 40% of taxpayers are below the poverty line. Even taking into account the Bush economy, I don’t think I’d believe that.

  26. littlejohn
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    “And each time fraudulent registration forms are in the news we know everything is working well! They were caught”

    And how many were not caught? ANy estimate? Isn;tit kinda like 40% of all crimes are unreported, or 60% of all homeless aren’t counted? (the numbers I used mean nothing, don;t try to make something out of them).

  27. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Linda,

    Registration fraud is like finding a roach. Where you catch one, how many more slipped through the cracks that you didn’t catch?

    ACORN has been accused and been a part of voter registration fruad for some time now. It is a partisan organization.

    I think Obama’s connections to such organizations, Ayers, Wright, and many others continues to show a clear picture that Obama is a very poor judge of Character or simply doesn’t care.

  28. biased1
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    littlejohn
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:29 pm | Permalink
    “And each time fraudulent registration forms are in the news we know everything is working well! They were caught”

    And how many were not caught? ANy estimate? Isn;tit kinda like 40% of all crimes are unreported, or 60% of all homeless aren’t counted? (the numbers I used mean nothing, don;t try to make something out of them).
    ——————————————-
    And how many were democrap and how many were republican?

  29. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Linda,

    Ok. You are happy the system is working. Now are you not concerned that more ACORN supporters have not gotten many more fraudulant registrations through that have not been found?

    Are you not the least bit concerned with Obama’s connection and support to such an organization?

  30. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Nevermind Linda. You never engage in a conversation directly.

    What was I thinking asking you questions…

    Go run along, find Tara.

    Too bad WS Clark isn’t here to do your dirty work for you anymore.

  31. Rage
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Ooooh Palin Gone Wild videos!

    Heh, how about “Nailin’ Paylin,” the porn flick? No, I’m not kidding!

    http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212178499.shtml

  32. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    America needs more 17 yr. olds like Palin’s future son-in-law, dropping out of high school to shoulder the responsibilities of fatherhood.

  33. biased1
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Nathanial- I think Obama’s connections to such organizations, Ayers, Wright, and many others continues to show a clear picture that Obama is a very poor judge of Character or simply doesn’t care whom he has to rub elbows with to advance himself.
    —————————
    just tweeked it a little.

  34. Rage
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Has any investigator found evidence of someone voting, planning to vote, submitting a ballot, telling someone they were going to defraud, anything. . .? Or is this just about Mickey Mouse and Tony Romo?

    By all means, let the investigators investigate. But I believe in reaching conclusions based on facts–sorry about that.

  35. Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    By all means – unleash Palin. Let her fire up the base with cries of “KILL HIM!”

    Meanwhile …

    McCain’s lost independents, polls find, giving Obama edge

    WASHINGTON — Three weeks before the Nov. 4 election, Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is winning big in key battleground states, polls released Tuesday find.

    The new Quinnipiac Polling Institute surveys found Obama passing the key 50 percent mark in Colorado, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin. And for the first time, Obama leads Republican nominee John McCain among white voters in all four states.

    “Those margins may be insurmountable barring a reversal that has never been seen before in the modern era in which polling monitors public opinion throughout the campaign,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

    The faltering economy is clearly helping Obama. “By wide margins, voters in each state say Senator Obama understands the economy better than Senator McCain,” the poll analysis found.

    Among the findings in the polls, conducted earlier this month:

    – Colorado: Obama 52 percent, McCain 43 percent.

    – Michigan: Obama, 55 percent, McCain, 37 percent.

    – Minnesota: Obama, 51 percent, McCain, 43 percent.

    – Wisconsin: Obama, 51 percent, McCain, 43 percent.

    Brown noted that, “the only possible bright spot for Senator McCain – and you would need Mary Poppins to find it in these numbers – is that he is holding roughly the same portion of the Republican vote. But McCain’s support among independent voters, a group he says are key to winning the White House, has collapsed.”

    McCain’s best chance of winning, he said, is a “knockout” in Wednesday’s third and final debate.

    ”But given that he has been judged by the electorate to have lost both of the previous face-offs, that would seem to be a very tall order,” Brown said.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/100/story/53901.html

  36. biased1
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Phantasy-
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink
    America needs more 17 yr. olds like Palin’s future son-in-law, dropping out of high school to shoulder the responsibilities of fatherhood.
    —————————————–
    Nah, probably grow up to be a responsible republican.
    Should have dropped out to sell dope. Collected welfare, foodstamps, whatever………..
    You know, like a good little libtard.

    bahhhhhhh……
    bahhhhhhh……

    feed at the community trough sheeple……..
    the One is going to fill it up…..

    the One….
    the One….

  37. littlejohn
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Rage-

    Here is one, I am sure there are others.

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/1410.html

    During 2006, Tax Foundation economists estimate that roughly 43.4 million tax returns, representing 91 million individuals, will face a zero or negative tax liability. That’s out of a total of 136 million federal tax returns that will be filed. Adding to this figure the 15 million households and individuals who file no tax return at all, roughly 121 million Americans—or 41 percent of the U.S. population—will be completely outside the federal income tax system in 2006.1 This total includes those who pay no tax, and those who pay some tax upfront and are later refunded the full amount of the tax paid or more.

  38. littlejohn
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Rage-

    Here is one, I am sure there are others.

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/1410.html

    During 2006, Tax Foundation economists estimate that roughly 43.4 million tax returns, representing 91 million individuals, will face a zero or negative tax liability. That’s out of a total of 136 million federal tax returns that will be filed. Adding to this figure the 15 million households and individuals who file no tax return at all, roughly 121 million Americans—or 41 percent of the U.S. population—will be completely outside the federal income tax system in 2006.1 This total includes those who pay no tax, and those who pay some tax upfront and are later refunded the full amount of the tax paid or more.

  39. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    biased1 posted October 14, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    That isn’t ANYTHING new, McCain has never been in Bushco’s pocket. It is ONLY the Ones campaign (and of course the media) that have been trying to tie him with bush.
    ————–

    McCain hugs Bush
    http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/election2008/ig/Election-Funny-Pictures/McCain-Bush-Hug.htm

  40. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Come Nov. 5th, Obama will indeed be the one.

  41. Rage
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    littlejohn
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Rage-

    Here is one, I am sure there are others.

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/1410.html

    Thanks, lj. I don’t know who the Tax Foundation is, and I wonder how their findings correlate with individual income rates. Also, the qualifications they’re putting on the findings raise questions as to whether that 40% is limited to bottom income scale.

    But I’ll look things over and get back to you. Duty calls. . .

  42. RFL
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    “America needs more 17 yr. olds like Palin’s future son-in-law, dropping out of high school to shoulder the responsibilities of fatherhood.”

    I agree totally with Phantom.

    Palin’s future son-in-law is doing the right thing by getting a JOB and providing for his new family.

    You’re right on. It takes a man to man up to your choices and provide for your family no matter how difficult the future choices may be. Dropping out of school is tough. But living with the disgrace of leaving your girl and child high and dry is so much worse.

    We do need more 17 year olds like that!

  43. lindainks55
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    I do wonder how many fraudulent voter applications aren’t caught. I want them all uncovered and denied. Is there a list of “unsolved voter application forms”? Kinda like “unsolved murders”? And if there are some unsolved, are we to not be glad some were caught?

    If such a list doesn’t exist, I think I’ll wait for the “unsolved voted illegally list” since that would indicate crime, and the applying to vote doesn’t meet that standard.

  44. Nathaniel
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Linda,

    Do you wonder about how ACORN is connected to so many claims of voter registration fraud and Obama’s connections to ACORN like you do with Bush, Florida, and Diebold?

  45. MaxGrobnik
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    “Extending Lead”?

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history

    10/14/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/13/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/12/2008
    45%
    51%
    Obama +6

    10/11/2008
    45%
    52%
    Obama +7

    10/10/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/09/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/08/2008
    45%
    51%
    Obama +6

    10/07/2008
    44%
    52%
    Obama +8

    10/06/2008
    44%
    52%
    Obama +8

    10/05/2008
    44%
    51%
    Obama +7

    10/04/2008
    45%
    51%
    Obama +6

    10/03/2008
    44%
    51%
    Obama +7

    10/02/2008
    44%
    51%
    Obama +7

    10/01/2008
    45%
    51%
    Obama +6

  46. lindainks55
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    ACORN is being investigated, I’ll be patient. I do wish I felt more assured about Diebold. But I’ll be positive about some progress rather than negative about not enough for now. And I have HOPE. Now, Nathaniel, I have a 2:30 appointment and must leave. But feel free to make denigrating remarks about me as usual.

  47. MaxGrobnik
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I suppose if the polls are calling registered voters, and calling the same Acorn registered voter several times using all of his/her names (like Mickey Mouse), then some double, triple, quadruple, etc.. counting is occurring.

    Felons are probably being called too.

  48. lindainks55
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    And, no, I’m not concerned about the made up stories and exaggerated involvements of Senator Obama. You can be worried for both of us!

  49. MaxGrobnik
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Are felons able to have absentee ballots mailed to prison?

    Or does somebody else vote using their name? (Which can happen because Democrats don’t want a photo ID required at the voting place.)

  50. Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Linda, I admire you because you stick to the subject without insulting those who disagree with you….must be very frustrating for those bloggers who have no class and continually throw out bait, hoping you’ll bite.

  51. RFL
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    With Supporters like these, don’t count out John McCain just yet.

    Louis Farrakhan
    Jeremiah Wright
    Jesse Jackson
    Bill Ayers
    Tony Rezko
    ACORN
    Fannie and Freddie

    Farrakhan on Obama: ‘The Messiah is absolutely speaking’
    ‘Barack has captured the youth,’ will bring about ‘universal change’
    -October 13th, 2008

  52. Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure the list of unscrupulous supporters in McCain’s camp would be even longer.

  53. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure the list of unscrupulous supporters in McCain’s camp would be even longer.

    Start with his all-lobbyist campaign staff

    Dennis

  54. gorillastudent
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    I wish more 17-year-olds would use their brain before their penises and put on a condem. Or better yet, maybe families could discuss sex with their children and not be scared to put their daughters on birth control. “But if you put them on birth control, then it is like saying it is ok to have sex.” Well, that logic obviously didn’t work. Do you that say he did the right thing really listen to yourselves?

  55. Predestined
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    America needs more 17 yr. olds like Palin’s future son-in-law, dropping out of high school to shoulder the responsibilities of fatherhood.

    When I read the interview with Levi, I wondered at the time why he didn’t enlist. After all, his future brother-in-law did, although I heard for different (drug abuse) reasons.

  56. Predestined
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    gorillastudent,

    The Palin’s don’t believe in birth control. But you do have an excellent point.

    BTW, you can tell me to mind my own business, but are you (or were you) a student at Pitt State (formerly KSC of Pittsburg)?

  57. gorillastudent
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Pitt State graduate. Never changed my e-mail address.

  58. gorillastudent
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Oh, I forgot how religious the Palins are. They must use the pull-and-pray method. VERY effective.

  59. Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Of course if a school accepts the free money that comes alone with federal abstinence education, they cannot teach about other methods to delay parenthood until marriage….

    Great idea, huh?

  60. biased1
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    DavisB
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:32 pm | Permalink
    Of course if a school accepts the free money that comes alone with federal abstinence education, they cannot teach about other methods to delay parenthood until marriage….

    Great idea, huh?
    ——————————————-
    put the koolaid down.
    quit believing what the liberals spew.

  61. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    McCain’s False Claims On Bill Ayers
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/13/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4518056.shtml?source=mostpop_story
    ““The idea that the Annenberg Challenge was somehow the extension of the Weather Underground of the 1960’s, that is just one of the most lunatic contentions I can imagine,” says Mike Flannery, political editor at the CBS Chicago affiliate WBBM who has covered Chicago politics for 35 years.

    Flannery says the other people on involved in the CAC with Obama and Ayers were “business types and Republicans.”

    Obama chaired the board of the CAC but he did not serve on the board with Ayers. Ayers served on a separate advisory board.

    Flannery says the negative attention that is being paid to the CAC is mystifying to Chicago reporters, “Those of us who have covered politics in Chicago the way I have for 35 years simply don’t recognize the caricatures and the ridiculous descriptions of this group.” “

  62. Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    “They must use the pull-and-pray method. VERY effective.”

    NO – that would be ’spilling the seed’ and is prohibited in Leviticus. The sin of Onan as I recall.

    According to the text, after God had killed Onan’s older brother Er, Judah asked Onan to have sex with Tamar, Er’s widow, so that the offspring could be declared Er’s heir.[2] The narrative implies that Onan didn’t object to the sex itself, but performed coitus interruptus, spilling his seed upon the ground, so that there wouldn’t be any offspring which he could claim as his own.[3] The passage then goes on to state that, for this act, a displeased God killed him

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onan

    Clement of Alexandria, while not making explicit reference to Onan, similarly reflects an early Christian view of the abhorrence of ‘”spilling seed’”:

    Because of its divine institution for the propagation of man, the seed is not to be vainly ejaculated, nor is it to be damaged, nor is it to be wasted[13]

    To have coitus other than to procreate children is to do injury to nature’[14]

  63. biased1
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    livin_in_the_cosmos- Flannery says the negative attention that is being paid to the CAC is mystifying to Chicago reporters, “Those of us who have covered politics in Chicago the way I have for 35 years simply don’t recognize the caricatures and the ridiculous descriptions of this group.”
    ————————————
    Skunk can’t smell himself.

  64. outlander
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    #
    Predestined
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    America needs more 17 yr. olds like Palin’s future son-in-law, dropping out of high school to shoulder the responsibilities of fatherhood.

    When I read the interview with Levi, I wondered at the time why he didn’t enlist. After all, his future brother-in-law did, although I heard for different (drug abuse) reasons.

    ————

    Oh Easter Bunny. There you go again, eagerly spreading unsubstantiated left winger rumors (lies). You are such a gossip.

    But not as much as some of the “men”, who will remain nameless. But one of whom is known to ride a little green moped.

  65. avtolle
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    What DavidB refers to is 42 USC section 710(b):
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode42/usc_sec_42_00000710—-000-.html

    Note the “exclusive” language contained in the first of the eight points set out in the statute. Not too surprising, given that the federal funding was for an abstinence only program.

    It is my understanding that this may no longer be in effect; don’t know, didn’t research whether appropriations were continued past FY 2007 (the last year for which I can find any evidence via various sites Googled that funding was provided for the program by Congress).

  66. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Every four years, the Scholastic presidential poll asks kids to vote. For the past 40 years, the result has been correct.

    This year’s results:

    Obama 57%
    McCain 39%
    Other 4%

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/14/kids.poll.president.cnn

  67. Predestined
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Oh Easter Bunny. There you go again, eagerly spreading unsubstantiated left winger rumors (lies). You are such a gossip.

    Yeah, ain’t it neat? :) The rightwing gets to do it all the time. I thought I’d give it a try and see if it flies. So glad you liked it.

  68. Predestined
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    gorillastudent, good for you. I went there for a short time, long, long ago. Back when the dinosaurs roamed, I believe.

  69. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    outlander posted October 14, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    But not as much as some of the “men”, who will remain nameless. But one of whom is known to ride a little green moped.
    ————–

    Was that for me? If so, we again thank you, and laugh at your stupid, predictable “moped” posts.

  70. outlander
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    #
    Predestined
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Oh Easter Bunny. There you go again, eagerly spreading unsubstantiated left winger rumors (lies). You are such a gossip.

    Yeah, ain’t it neat? :) The rightwing gets to do it all the time. I thought I’d give it a try and see if it flies. So glad you liked it.

    ——————-

    Hey EB, as long as it doesn’t bother your moral compass…

  71. RoaCH
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Mary_Caruso
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 2:53 pm | Permalink
    You’re right, Max…she is a cow. A lying cow.

    Well hell Mary, then I guess it’s O.K. to say that Obama is a monkey.

  72. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    America needs more 17 yr. olds like Palin’s future son-in-law, dropping out of high school to shoulder the responsibilities of fatherhood.

    When I read the interview with Levi, I wondered at the time why he didn’t enlist. After all, his future brother-in-law did, although I heard for different (drug abuse) reasons.

    Actually, while I commend Levi for wanting to take care of his kid, I think it is another bad example of his parents and his future in-laws not to see to it that he at least gets a h.s. diploma!
    After all, he might want to leave Alaska someday, and no one outside of Alaska would hire him.

  73. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Obama chaired the board of the CAC but he did not serve on the board with Ayers. Ayers served on a separate advisory board.

    Sounds like they served on separate boards together! It’s enought to fool repubs. And, if the program promoted a radical change from traditional school curriculum, then that easliy translates to a Radical subservsive group (again if you’re a repub)!

  74. CF2K
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    I suppose Cthulu could emerge to begin eating Democratic voters and thereby narrow the margin of Obama’s probable victory close enough that McCain could win. Or I suppose it is technically possible that an asteriod could collide with the Earth. Or I suppose it is possible that the dead could rise from their graves, way pissed that the bodies of the living are intact whereas their own are in various stages of decay.

    At this point, given all the lies being perpetrated by Wingnuts here and elsewhere, I *would* place even odds that Right-Wing violence could break out, driven by fraudulent reports that ACORN is trying to register 50 million new voters, all named “Mickey Mouse,” to swamp polling places come Election Day and sweep Barack Obama to victory.

    But even if that were to happen, and even if Republican election officials in various states succeed in their ongoing efforts to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of minority Democratic voters, I still bet it won’t be enough to overcome the historical repudiation that Republicans have coming at the hands of the electorate. New Orleans, Iraq, and the crashed economy–voters have seen and heard enough. The Reagan Revolution is done. And now we’re looking at a political upheval and a paradigm shift.

    Make no mistake, though. Obama may be ahead, but nobody imagines this race isn’t going to tighten in the next couple/three weeks. Democrats ain’t letting up now; we all know it’s the country’s last chance.

    So, face it, Republicans: America hates your sorry asses for good reason. Pretending that a bunch of African-Americans and “illegal aliens” are trying to steal an election by registering Mickey Mouse to vote just makes you look like BIGGER racists than you already are.

  75. Regular
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    CF2K has now donned his painted black-face and feels qualified to call anyone not a Democrat a racist.

  76. lindainks55
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Thank you Mary for your kind words. I have taken the bait sometimes even tho I try hard not to. I’ve never been proud of myself when I do. We have soooo many public figures to talk about I can’t see much sense in beating up on fellow posters who all have a perfect right to their own opinions.

  77. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    CF, great post!

    Did you read the Rude One today? He just freakin’ NAILED the source of all this republican rage. We see it here everyday, increasing vitriol and rapidly accelerating venom that’s heading for violence, for sure.

    Rude language, not for the faint of heart. And it’s the republicans who should really read it, but ya know they wont.

    It’s called The Big Lie. A must read.

    http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/

  78. CF2K
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    As for Ted Nugent, that’s some pretty tough talk coming from an admitted draft-dodger. I’m guessing he shoots wovles from helicopters.

    One of CF2K’s favorite RAWK memories is of seeing the Michael Schenker Group open up for Ted Nugent at the Seattle Arena in 1984–and watching Schenker, limited to a 30-minute set and playing with reduced PA power, BLOW NUGENT OFF THE STAGE.

    Must have hurt, getting his American ass kicked by an alcoholic German.

  79. CF2K
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl,

    Yeah, Rudepundit nailed it. This is the way Wingnut world ends, not with a whimper, but with a volcano of incohate rage.

    Still, in time, I hope that when the smoke clears, folks can begin to see through the cloud of lies that descendend on this country in 1980 with the election of Ronald Reagan.

    And that we all can get back to being Americans.

  80. Phantom
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Besides Linda, I’ve found the righties take it just as personal when you pick on one of their Repub idols!

  81. TomPaine
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Levi shouldn’t have a problem getting Walmart greeter job, you dont need a diploma for that

  82. Boxlock
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    More criminal Democrats at work.
    What scum!!!

    NORTH KANSAS CITY, MO. — A North Kansas City couple has been left scratching their heads after they became the victims of a political scam.

    Steve and Rachel Larman say a strange credit card charge appeared on their statement this month — a $2300 donation to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. The Larman’s say they don’t want this to be about their political affiliation, but they say they’re not about to give the Obama campaign any help from their pocketbook.

    They said they notified Chase, their credit card bank, to report the fraud.

    “(They) said that they had seen-they were familiar with this,” said Steve Larman. “It was fraud, they believe through telemarketing but they were going to be doing some more investigations.”

    The Larman’s don’t want their politics to enter into what is essentially just a fraudulent charge. But they say that the charge involves the Obama campaign adds insult to injury for the registered Republicans.

  83. mxyzptlk
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock spews his hatred without checking the facts.

  84. lindainks55
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    That is exactly what voters see in the negative campaigning — charges without facts! Oh, did I mention, it isn’t working anywhere?

  85. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Boxlock posted October 14, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    More criminal Democrats at work.
    What scum!!!
    ———–

    Boxlock, you seem to know the identity of the person who made the donation using their card.

    Have you given that info to the bank, and/or authorities?

  86. Agnatha
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    “Rage,

    “What a very nice argument: ‘If you think I am wrong you are a fool.’

    “Brilliant! Why didn’t I think of that?”

    You probably didn’t think of that because you are argumentatively illiterate.

    Here is the actual argument in Rage’s post.

    “Show some actual evidence of voter fraud perpetrated by ACORN, and I’ll give that view some respect.

    What I see is ACORN volunteers not doing their jobs, filling out ballot with names like ‘Mickey Mouse’, so they can get paid without having to work for it.

    “Voter fraud requires someone voting who shouldn’t, or someone voting more than once. If you can’t show where this happened, at least show some evidence of an attempt to defraud.”

    This is a put up or shut up argument. No one has come up with ACORN incited voter fraud. Registration fraud, which is admittedly likely when people are paid to get registrations, does not equal voter fraud unless someone votes under the fraudulent registration. The motive for these false (often outrageously so) registrations, however, is already apparent. It is people trying to up their registration counts so that they can get paid more. Sad, desperate maybe, but no obvious conspiracy to get people into the polls fraudulently. The entity who is ripped off by this process is ACORN itself. Republican whiners have had more than ample opportunities to actually produce examples of voter fraud. They have failed (coulda woulda shoulda does not count). Some in the current administration tried to force prosecutors to look for it, and threw termination tantrums when they didn’t get it.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/130/story/16147.html

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8922947

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-10-10-poll-fraud-report_x.htm

    The “If you think I am wrong, you are a fool” comment was a coda to an actual argument. Par for the course, Nathan ignored the argument and went straight for the ad hominem. For someone who is so quick to condemn those who resort to ad hominems and empty arguments, they sure seem to be Nathan’s stock in trade, to the extent that he bypasses the actual argument and reacts to the snark.

    “Idiot.”

    Since you clearly either have difficulty actually identifying the argument of your opponent, or duck the actual argument in favor of finding something you can dismiss with an ad hominem, you are clearly unqualified to make such a pronouncement.

  87. outlander
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    So, face it, Republicans: America hates your sorry asses for good reason. Pretending that a bunch of African-Americans and “illegal aliens” are trying to steal an election by registering Mickey Mouse to vote just makes you look like BIGGER racists than you already are.

    ———-

    Jeesh. This is the kind of idiotic stuff you get from blind partisan politicos. As if America has changed much at all. Largely because of the war and the resultant Bush unpopularity, more of the skooshy undecideds will probably break Obama’s and the Democrats way. But it certainly isn’t in the bag. Otherwise, the status quo 50-50 nation still exists.

    But the Democrats will read it as some kind of mandate and immediately overdo their stupidity. Socialists, as illustrated by CF there, can’t control themselves. You can count on that.

    If I didn’t love this country, I would wish for a Democrat majority in the House and a super-majority in the Senate to go along with an Obama win. Just think. Not only would that pretty much guarantee a one term president, it would be so much fun going on offense for a change. Blaming the Democrats for everything.

    But I do love this country, so I will do what little one person can do to prevent the obvious harm that would cause.

  88. outlander
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    So, if you want judges rather than elected representatives of the people making the laws, vote Democrat.

    If you like abortions, the sacrament of the Democrat party and would like to see them easier to get, vote Democrat.

    If you want more government in your life, if socialism seems like a good thing to you, vote Democrat.

    If you like the flood of illegal immigrants and want to see more, vote Democrat.

  89. cosmos_originally
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    outlander posted October 14, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    … vote Democrat.

    … vote Democrat.

    … vote Democrat.

    … vote Democrat.
    ————

    It looks like most Americans will vote for Obama(D).

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/
    Obama 357 McCain 181

    Dem pickups (vs. 2004): CO FL IA MO NV NM ND OH VA WV

    GOP pickups (vs. 2004): (None)

  90. Agnatha
    Posted October 15, 2008 at 6:47 am | Permalink

    “This is the kind of idiotic stuff you get from blind partisan politicos.”

    Followed by:

    “But the Democrats will read it as some kind of mandate and immediately overdo their stupidity. Socialists, as illustrated by CF there, can’t control themselves. You can count on that.”

    and

    “So, if you want judges rather than elected representatives of the people making the laws, vote Democrat.

    “If you like abortions, the sacrament of the Democrat party and would like to see them easier to get, vote Democrat.

    “If you want more government in your life, if socialism seems like a good thing to you, vote Democrat.

    “If you like the flood of illegal immigrants and want to see more, vote Democrat.”

    Complete irony impairment.
    Remarkable.

  91. rsmueller
    Posted October 15, 2008 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Ted Nugent has a past history as a pedophile. So, you have to take his advice with a grain of salt.

  92. MaxGrobnik
    Posted October 15, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Extending Lead?

    McCain
    Obama
    Spread

    10/15/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/14/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/13/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/12/2008
    45%
    51%
    Obama +6

    10/11/2008
    45%
    52%
    Obama +7

    10/10/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/09/2008
    45%
    50%
    Obama +5

    10/08/2008
    45%
    51%
    Obama +6

    10/07/2008
    44%
    52%
    Obama +8

    10/06/2008
    44%
    52%
    Obama +8

    10/05/2008
    44%
    51%
    Obama +7

    10/04/2008
    45%
    51%
    Obama +6

    10/03/2008
    44%
    51%
    Obama +7

    10/02/2008
    44%
    51%
    Obama +7

    10/01/2008
    45%
    51%
    Obama +6

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history