“At the risk of scandalizing my high school civics teacher, this might be the first presidential and congressional election I’ve sat out on principle,” wrote columnist Rod Dreher. He explained that as a pro-life social conservative, his voting for Barack Obama is “all but impossible.” But, he said, John McCain’s “hot temper and bellicose foreign policy instincts are deeply troubling. . . . And the more Gov. Sarah Palin shares her nitwit nostrums, the less confidence I have that she’s capable of running the country if her boss’s term were abruptly ended by illness or death.”
He also wrote: “Absent something extraordinary, I’m going to reject both the Republican and the Democrat. Say what you will, but that will be the first presidential vote I’ve cast, so to speak, that I can truly believe in.”
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No! Vote for SOMEONE!
There are third parties!
He should vote third-party or perhaps even cast a blank ballot. Not voting implies apathy – third or blank implies disgust.
Good man, that’s what I’m expecting in ks., people won’t be able to force themselves to vote against mccain and the R brand, so they’ll just not turn out.
The only hope moderate R’s have to take back their party, is to abstain or vote out their party. Send a strong message and power will shift back to the middle.
I think the op-ed writer is saying the same thing you two are. I took it that he plans to leave the presidential part of the ballot blank.
Weed the Sunflowers out of your garden.
Vote for teh write in candidate
“None of the above”
Phantom, they’re all saying the choice of Palin as running mate has them fired up. McCain wasn’t their first or even second choice, but Palin, Palin, Palin… Some who might have stayed home will now enthusiastically vote! Or, that’s what they’re saying… And I have a bridge for sale.
The current president is pro-life, but, after 8 years in office, Roe Vs. Wade still allows for abortions. So, what does it matter that one candidate is Pro-Choice while another is Pro-Life?
Even when abortion was illegal, people were still having abortions then too.
Rather than concentrating on such a controversial subject like abortion, look at the other issues as well. Presidents are only temporary leaders.
If you don’t vote, you had better not complain when the wrong person get’s into office.
lindainks55,
I have someone that was willing to vote for McCain just to get Palin in as VP. It doesn’t make sense. YOu are supposed to be voting for the President, not the Vice President.
I heard Palin will make an appearance on saturday night live. It sounds like a safe place for her to go, rather than another interview to test her shallow knowledge.
RS
It appears the Supreme Court just decided that legal Ohio votes don’t count, because it’s okay to stuff ballots with dead or otherwise ineligible people, just as long as they vote for Obama.
GunhugnGodNut,
Tough luck. . .
‘Purging Joe the plumber?‘
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Purging_Joe_the_plumber.html
“Would Joe be thrown off the rolls if he registered in Ohio today?
The Toledo Blade reported today that “Joe the Plumber’s” name appears on Ohio voter registration rolls with a slight misspelling — as Worzelbacher, not Wurzelbacher.
And that sort of data-entry error might be enough — were Joe a new registrant — to have him disqualified from voting in Ohio, Florida, or Wisconsin this year, depending on the outcome of ongoing litigation.”
More at link.
because it’s okay to stuff ballots with dead or otherwise ineligible people, just as long as they vote for Obama.
When has ballot box stuffing occurred this year?
Or maybe you’re referring to the illegalities of the 2004 vote in Ohio that were NEVER addressed? I’m sure Dubya thanked Kenneth Blackwell for that one.
Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted – enough to have put John Kerry in the White House.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
So you’re saying that makes it okay?
He also wrote: “Absent something extraordinary, I’m going to reject both the Republican and the Democrat. Say what you will, but that will be the first presidential vote I’ve cast, so to speak, that I can truly believe in.”
I’m thinking ol’ Rod needs a hormone check. There’s definitely some shrinkage in the testes.
“none of the above” is getting my vote
Madison’s Supreme Court nominee, Justice Joseph Story, wrote, “Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.”
Wow, did he look ahead or what?
This is the oldest Democrat trick in the book. Tell conservatives, especially social conservatives, McCains way behind in the polls so you might as well go ahead and vote for that third party guy you like or better yet, don’t vote at all. After all, you really don’t like McCain that much anyway and was only going to vote for him to stop Obama. That is why the CNN/ABC polls show Obama ahead by double digit leads while the truly accurate polling has Obama ahead only three to four percent and shows it tightening. Through in the “Bradley effect” (telling pollsters you are going to vote for the black guy and then voting the other way) and you have a toss up race. Be scared Dems, be very scared.
“The Toledo Blade reported today that “Joe the Plumber’s” name appears on Ohio voter registration rolls with a slight misspelling — as Worzelbacher, not Wurzelbacher.”
How, or more accurately, WHY would this newspaper know this?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/16/AR2008101603436_pf.html
Barack Obama for President
Washington Post | Friday, Oct. 17, 2008
The nominating process this year produced two unusually talented and qualified presidential candidates. There are few public figures we have respected more over the years than Sen. John McCain. Yet it is without ambivalence that we endorse Sen. Barack Obama for president.
The choice is made easy in part by Mr. McCain’s disappointing campaign, above all his irresponsible selection of a running mate who is not ready to be president. It is made easy in larger part, though, because of our admiration for Mr. Obama and the impressive qualities he has shown during this long race. Yes, we have reservations and concerns, almost inevitably, given Mr. Obama’s relatively brief experience in national politics. But we also have enormous hopes.
Mr. Obama is a man of supple intelligence, with a nuanced grasp of complex issues and evident skill at conciliation and consensus-building. At home, we believe, he would respond to the economic crisis with a healthy respect for markets tempered by justified dismay over rising inequality and an understanding of the need for focused regulation. Abroad, the best evidence suggests that he would seek to maintain U.S. leadership and engagement, continue the fight against terrorists, and wage vigorous diplomacy on behalf of U.S. values and interests. Mr. Obama has the potential to become a great president. Given the enormous problems he would confront from his first day in office, and the damage wrought over the past eight years, we would settle for very good.
The first question, in fact, might be ….
smueller
Posted October 17, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
…”If you don’t vote, you had better not complain when the wrong person get’s into office.”
Why not? If I didn’t vote, I can still complain. And don’t forget that this is a sword which cuts both ways: your candidate promises you lower taxes, that he will be free of corrupting influences, and so forth. So you vote him in. Once in office, he turns-out to be a tax-raising grafter who is the tool of special interests.
If this happens, please do not complain. You put him there, you live with it.
By the by, I am going to vote.
Don’t vote then you can complain about whoever gets into office, same as voting third party!
Pre –
Rolling Stone’s hit piece has long since been thoroughtly debunked. Please don’t make me look it up again.
Dem’s complaints about the election “stolen” in Ohio have about as much credibility as the “coup” in 2000 – when GORE initiated the legal action!
Except among the moonbats, of course. And they have no credibility, aside from in the echochamber of the nutroots, anyway.
ACORN’s activities, however, have been documented for years, are being documented again, and are the subject of an FBI investigation. Smoke, possible fire (again)? Chicago’s election shenanigans (Obama’s home town) are legendary, and go way back. The Daley machine was, and is, the Daley machine, after all. Kennedy’s election in 1960, for example, was in all likelihood truly stolen, though Nixon did not make an issue of it.
Let it go, man. Or are you preparing your excuses in case the coming election does not go as expected?
Palin also made a point of mentioning that she loved to visit the “pro-America” areas of the country, of which North Carolina is one. No word on which states she views as unpatriotic.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/17/to_avoid_being_depressed_palin.html
Perhaps McCain/Palin would like to tell us what states exactly are not pro-America?
Perhaps those states might like to vote for someone else or not at all.
Joe the Plumber is the leftist media’s new whipping toy (so dearly epitomized by the witch hunt depicted by Cosmos’s posts).
The left loves to dig up dirt on average ordinary American Joe the Plumber but cries for more talk about the economy and stock market malaise when anybody mentions the name rehabilitated/unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers.
Joe’s personal information regarding his divorce and how tax much money he owes ($1,200) or how many times his dog pee’d on a neighbors lawn (okay I made that up) is now public history.
All Joe did was ask Obama a question.
Now it’s dog pile time.
Hypocrites
“Chrisfrommactown
Posted October 17, 2008 at 2:41 pm | Permalink
This is the oldest Democrat trick in the book. Tell conservatives, especially social conservatives, McCains way behind in the polls so you might as well go ahead and vote for that third party guy you like or better yet, don’t vote at all. After all, you really don’t like McCain that much anyway and was only going to vote for him to stop Obama. That is why the CNN/ABC polls show Obama ahead by double digit leads while the truly accurate polling has Obama ahead only three to four percent and shows it tightening. Through in the “Bradley effect” (telling pollsters you are going to vote for the black guy and then voting the other way) and you have a toss up race. Be scared Dems, be very scared.”
So the poll numbers are part of the great liberal conspiracy and being perpetuated by CNN and ABC?
Is the gay media in on it too?
RFL – it was McCain who made Joe a star. If Joe’s story turned out to be a bit different than advertised then tough – sucks to be Joe. Joe ahs come out and said he sought this attention; he has no right now to whine about how it turned out.
“RFL” –
John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) mentioned “Joe the Plumber” no fewer than 20 times in 90 minutes.
And you’re offended someone noticed?
I’m inclined to agree with you that poor ol’ “Joe the Plumber” got a raw deal. But look who victimized him? It wasn’t Barack Obama, who calmly responded to Joe’s question. And it wasn’t the evil media, who simply asked the question, “Who is this guy McCoot keeps mentioning during a nationally-televised debate? 20 times!”
Liberal attacks?
Meanwhile, conservative strategist Martin Eisenstadt pointed out that Wurzelbacher may have links to Charles Keating, the savings and loan executive at the heart of the Keating 5 political scandal that ensnared McCain in the late 1980s.
Perhaps more important, according to two pollsters who conducted focus groups of undecided voters during the debate, undecided voters don’t seem to have thought much of McCain’s use of Joe. Stan Greenberg of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner quizzed 50 such voters in Denver during the final face-off between the candidates. Their response to McCain’s Joe the Plumber riffs? The room filled with “a lot of snickering,” he says. “They didn’t view it as authentic.”
That’s one reason, says Greenberg, that his group of voters emerged from the debate with a more favorable view of Obama on taxes. At the beginning of the debate, 42% of the undecideds thought Obama had a better position on taxes than McCain, while 20% favored McCain’s position. Ninety minutes later, Obama was ahead 52% to 20%. “Taxes are a central issue; in order to change the race, McCain had to erode Obama on taxes,” says Greenberg. According to his focus group, that didn’t happen.
http://www.businessweek.com/election/2008/blog/archives/2008/10/boy_plumbers_ha.html
mxyzptlk
Posted October 17, 2008 at 4:01 pm | Permalink
Palin also made a point of mentioning that she loved to visit the “pro-America” areas of the country, of which North Carolina is one. No word on which states she views as unpatriotic.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/17/to_avoid_being_depressed_palin.html
Perhaps McCain/Palin would like to tell us what states exactly are not pro-America?
Perhaps those states might like to vote for someone else or not at all.”
**********************
I wonder if she considers the sessionists in Alaska to be patriotic?
Has Joe received death threats? His home or office vandalized and burglarized?
Death threat, vandalism hit ACORN after McCain comments
WASHINGTON — An ACORN community organizer received a death threat and the liberal activist group’s Boston and Seattle offices were vandalized Thursday, reflecting mounting tensions over its role in registering 1.3 million mostly poor and minority Americans to vote next month.
Attorneys for the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now were notifying the FBI and the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division of the incidents, said Brian Kettenring, a Florida-based spokesman for the group.
Republicans, including presidential candidate John McCain, have verbally attacked the group repeatedly in recent days, alleging a widespread vote-fraud scheme, although they’ve provided little proof. It was disclosed Thursday that the FBI is examining whether thousands of fraudulent voter-registration applications submitted by some ACORN workers were part of a systematic effort or isolated incidents.
Kettenring said that a senior ACORN staffer in Cleveland, after appearing on television this week, got an e-mail that said she “is going to have her life ended.”
A female staffer in Providence, R.I., got a threatening call from someone who said words to the effect of “We know you get off work at 9,” then uttered racial epithets, he said.
McClatchy is withholding the women’s names because of the threats.
Separately, vandals broke into the group’s Boston and Seattle offices and stole computers, Kettenring said.
The incidents came the day after McCain charged in the final presidential debate that ACORN’s voter-registration drive “may be perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history” and may be “destroying the fabric of democracy.”
McCain’s comments provoked a response from ACORN.
“I would not say that Senator McCain is inciting violence,” Kettenring said, “but I would say that his statements about the role of this manufactured scandal were totally outlandish. We would call on Senator McCain to tamp down the fringe elements in his party.”
McCain’s campaign didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.
Kettenring said that ACORN had received growing amounts of hate mail in recent weeks, but “the campaign debate sort of tipped it over to a scary point, where raising allegations of voter fraud went from a cynical campaign ploy to really inciting racial violence.”
Since McCain’s remarks, ACORN’s 87 offices across the country have received hundreds of hostile e-mails, many of them containing racial slurs, Kettenring said. “We believe that these are specifically McCain supporters” sending the messages, he said.
The e-mail to the Cleveland employee was traced to a Facebook Web page in the name of a Baltimore man. It featured a photo of a McCain-Palin sign.
Kettenring said that the bulk of the e-mails had been either “flat-out racist” or had racial overtones. Most of the group’s 400 members and about 80 percent of the 13,000 voter-registration canvassers are African-American or Latino.
It’s unclear whether the alleged threats violated federal law, but Jonah Goldman, the director of the National Campaign for Fair Elections at the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, a nonpartisan, nonprofit legal organization that battles discrimination, argued that the Voting Rights Act should apply.
“A real concern is the impact that these terrible acts have on the people who registered through these registration drives,” Goldman said. “Legitimate, eligible voters who sign up through these registration drives may be understandably intimidated and choose not to show up at the polls, and the Voting Rights Act prevents voter intimidation.”
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/54360.html
Actually, the only strategy that works when you can accept neither party is to always vote out the incumbent. That way, the offending partys can’t serve more than one term. It may take a few election cycles, but eventually they’ll get the message; after all, re-election is the name of the game.
I hope Ayers has a good life insurance policy, after being labeled a terrorist.
In a democracy, not voting is the equivalent of not existing.
“Jed
Posted October 17, 2008 at 4:33 pm | Permalink
Actually, the only strategy that works when you can accept neither party is to always vote out the incumbent. That way, the offending partys can’t serve more than one term. It may take a few election cycles, but eventually they’ll get the message; after all, re-election is the name of the game.”
That is exactly what I do. If I am not strongly in favor of one candidate, I vote for the non-incumbent.
“If you are In(cumbent) you are out”
“Phantom
Posted October 17, 2008 at 4:34 pm | Permalink
I hope Ayers has a good life insurance policy, after being labeled a terrorist.”
He has been labeled one for 30 years
The ‘publicans real fear of ACORN is that it might just steal more votes than Diebold will.
“A real concern is the impact that these terrible acts have on the people who registered through these registration drives,” Goldman said. “Legitimate, eligible voters who sign up through these registration drives may be understandably intimidated and choose not to show up at the polls, and the Voting Rights Act prevents voter intimidation.”
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/54360.html
And THAT is one of the things Boxlock, Regular, HLP, Nathan and their ilk wish to achieve with their insincere screams about voter fraud.
No, he was/is just a 60’s radical.
One of the other reasons that the Republican party is pushing the ACORN issue so hard is their insecurity in a McCain win.
If McCain loses they will try to de-legitimize the Obama victory with complaints about voter fraud. Regardless whether it is true or if the extent of potential fraud actually made a difference, they have successfully planted the question mark already.
If McCain wins, the problems with ACORN must have been prevented effectively.
Pretty shrewd tactics aren’t they?
And, even if he had been so labeled for 30 yrs., I’d bet less than 10% would have recognized his name. I sure didn’t, and I hail from the same period.
Please don’t make me look it up again.
Oh, please, don’t bother. Not for MY sake. I wouldn’t want you to go out of your way to prove anything.
Let it go, man. Or are you preparing your excuses in case the coming election does not go as expected?
First, let’s get my gender correct, as it’s been noted here in the past. I’m not a man, never wanted to be a man, and am perfectly happy being a woman. In fact, VERY happy. I’d hate to have to deal with two heads and only enough blood for one.
No, I’m not preparing anything. I’m not expecting anything, except an election on Nov. 4 that will determine who will be our next president. Fear not. I’ve been disappointed before. I won’t be crying in my beer. I don’t like beer anyway.
Perhaps McCain/Palin would like to tell us what states exactly are not pro-America?
Her own state perhaps? Or some in it, at least.
All you Leftist Socialist Libs should follow this advice – Don’t Vote At All!!!
A Nobel laureate conjures a grand, uproarious, strangely familiar farce.
Municipal elections are to be held in the capital city of an unnamed country: the reader must not take this to refer to Portugal, Saramago’s narrator warns at one point. Rain is pelting down as “the presiding officer of polling station number fourteen” – Saramago doesn’t believe in honouring officialdom and institutions, even god, with capital letters – is getting ready to open the doors to the public. At first nobody comes, not one single soul. Then, in the late afternoon, voters appear, as if by magic, forming long queues at polling booths all over the city. A vindication of the noblest ideals of democracy, the president, the prime minister and their cronies declare.
When the votes are counted however, the great and the powerful cannot believe what the citizens of the capital had done. Neither the party on the right (p.o.t.r.) nor the party in the middle (p.i.t.m.) had gained more than a tiny percentage of votes. And the party on the left (p.o.t.l.) needn’t have bothered putting up candidates, since almost nobody voted for them. More than 80 per cent of the ballot papers turned out to be absolutely, devastatingly blank.
What follows is a grand political farce.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/book-reviews/seeing/2006/07/21/1153166564514.html
The book “Seeing” has everyone voting, but 80% vote with a Blank Ballot.
So all y’all Leftists Radical Socialist Libs, go out there and vote Blank Ballots!
You can even vote 1,000 times with your phony Acorn Blank Ballots, to make your protest vote even LOUDER!
GMC70,
Got the “debunking” of the Rolling Stone piece on Ohio, do you? Good. Bring it.
You’ve never adequately made the case for why the disappearance of Ohio’s county election records–despite their protection under a Federal court order–doesn’t raise legitimate suspicions as to whether Ken Blackwell and Republicans operating under his orders didn’t act to obstruct Democratic votes in 2004.
And your whole “Al Gore initiated the 2000 case so it’s his fault he lost” stinks for Scalian defensiveness. Surely you have better spin by now.
” I’d hate to have to deal with two heads and only enough blood for one.”
ROFLMLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Brian?
“Is the gay media in on it too?”
It’s part of that mean ol’ gay agenda.
I heard Tiller is in on it too!
Max – it is more likely that it will be Republicans casting blank ballots. We don’t see any leading Democrats endorsing McCain; with Powell however we DO see the opposite.
GMC70,
“The Daley machine was, and is, the Daley machine, after all. Kennedy’s election in 1960, for example, was in all likelihood truly stolen, though Nixon did not make an issue of it.”
Pure Republican myth. Do y’all ever let go of the baseless claims that enable you to play the victim?
“Texas and Illinois, the two largest states under dispute, witnessed the nastiest fights. In Texas, where Kennedy won the 24 electoral votes by a margin of 46,000 ballots, the GOP took to the courts. But its suits were thrown out by a federal judge who claimed he had no jurisdiction. In Illinois, the appeal was pursued more vigorously, maybe because the electoral take was higher (27) and Kennedy’s margin slimmer (9,000 votes). Charges focused on Cook County (specifically Chicago) where Kennedy had won by a suspiciously overwhelming 450,000 votes.
National GOP officials plunged in. Thruston Morton flew to Chicago to confer with Illinois Republican leaders on strategy, while party Treasurer Meade Alcorn announced Nixon would win the state. With Nixon distancing himself from the effort, the Cook County state’s attorney, Benjamin Adamowski, stepped forward to lead the challenge. A Daley antagonist and potential rival for the mayoralty, Adamowski had lost his job to a Democrat by 25,000 votes. The closeness of his defeat entitled him to a recount, which began Nov. 29.
Completed Dec. 9, the recount of 863 precincts showed that the original tally had undercounted Nixon’s (and Adamowski’s) votes, but only by 943, far from the 4,500 needed to alter the results. In fact, in 40 percent of the rechecked precincts, Nixon’s vote was overcounted. Displeased, the Republicans took the case to federal court, only to have a judge dismiss the suits. Still undeterred, they turned to the State Board of Elections, which was composed of four Republicans, including the governor, and one Democrat. Yet the state board, too, unanimously rejected the petition, citing the GOP’s failure to provide even a single affidavit on its behalf. The national party finally backed off after Dec. 19, when the nation’s Electoral College certified Kennedy as the new president—but even then local Republicans wouldn’t accept the Illinois results.
A recount did wind up changing the winner in one state: Hawaii. On Dec. 28, a circuit court judge ruled that the state—originally called Kennedy’s but awarded to Nixon after auditing errors emerged—belonged to Kennedy after all. Nixon’s net gain: -3 electoral votes.
The GOP’s failure to prove fraud doesn’t mean, of course, that the election was clean. That question remains unsolved and unsolvable. But what’s typically left out of the legend is that multiple election boards saw no reason to overturn the results. Neither did state or federal judges. Neither did an Illinois special prosecutor in 1961. And neither have academic inquiries into the Illinois case (both a 1961 study by three University of Chicago professors and more recent research by political scientist Edmund Kallina concluded that whatever fraud existed wasn’t substantial enough to alter the election).
On the other hand, some fraud clearly occurred in Cook County. At least three people were sent to jail for election-related crimes, and 677 others were indicted before being acquitted by Judge John M. Karns, a Daley crony. Many of the allegations involved practices that wouldn’t be detected by a recount, leading the conservative Chicago Tribune, among others, to conclude that “once an election has been stolen in Cook County, it stays stolen.” What’s more, according to journalist Seymour Hersh, a former Justice Department prosecutor who heard tapes of FBI wiretaps from the period believed that Illinois was rightfully Nixon’s. Hersh also has written that J. Edgar Hoover believed Nixon actually won the presidency but in deciding to follow normal procedures and refer the FBI’s findings to the attorney general—as of Jan. 20, 1961, Robert F. Kennedy—he effectively buried the case.”
http://www.slate.com/id/91350/
Was there fraud? You bet. Was it enough to tip the election? Best evidence says nope.
So, what’s the upshot? Despite evidence and investigations that demonstrated the contrary, Republicans continue to nurse the wound of their victimization, on the basis of allegations they never were able to prove.
Myths, GMC70, obviously matter more to you than facts. That does nothing so much as brand you a garden-variety Republican.
brian_nuevo
Posted October 17, 2008 at 4:05 pm | Permalink
So the poll numbers are part of the great liberal conspiracy and being perpetuated by CNN and ABC?
Is the gay media in on it too?
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No Brian, everything is on the up and up. There isn’t even a hint of impropriety in this election. The media and especially the cable news networks are bending over backwards to be as non partisan as possible. Get out the vote efforts by ACORN and other left leaning groups are being conducted in honest and trustworthy fashion. The Sec. of State of Ohio is conducting herself beyond reproach. She has even gone so far as to get the Supreme Court (actually one liberal justice) to delay ruling on the validity of over 200,000 questionable registrations till after the election just so nobody is denied the right to vote. Don’t forget too that every dime of the $500,000,000.00 Obama has raised for his campaign has come honestly from inside the U.S. and he has not violated one campaign finance law. Also nobody is being harassed or called a racist just because they say they won’t vote for Obama because they honestly disagree with his stated views and positions. I think this election will go down in history as the cleanest most honest election since the founding of the republic.
Oh and Brian. As for your question “is the gay media in on it too”?
I really can’t tell the difference between the main stream media and the gay media.
Chris – want some cheese to go with that?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Call the wwwaaaaaaambulance ’cause Chrisfrommactown thinks “LIFE ISN’T FAIR!!!
I know life isn’t fair. Is it to much to ask that our elections be fair?
Oh and bth. Is that the best an MIT man can come up with?
And like I said the other day, all the “waaaaaaambulances are still out picking up you crybabies who are still crying about Florida 2000.
Chris – no, it’s not the best an MIT man can come up with. Just the best that you are worth.
Now, now, guys–CFMT is just sticking to the script: what befalls Republicans is NEVER their fault.
Kind of like this:
“Honest… I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/quotes
CFMT,
“Is it to much to ask that our elections be fair?”
Well, I don’t know, CFMT: is it too much to ask that our Justice Department and FBI be nonpartisan and avoid even the appearance of election tampering?
Liberal definition of election tampering. Anything that somebody does to prevent the democrats from stealing election.
Oh, and cf2k, I’ve seen the Blues Brothers movie too
But for all of the McCain campaign’s manufactured fury about vote theft (and similar claims from the Republican Party over the years) there is virtually no evidence — anywhere in the country, going back many elections — of people showing up at the polls and voting when they are not entitled to.
Meanwhile, Republicans aren’t saying anything about another more serious voter-registration scandal: the fact that about one-third of eligible voters are not registered. The racial gaps are significant and particularly disturbing. According to a study by Project Vote, a voting-rights group, in 2006, 71 percent of eligible whites were registered, compared with 61 percent of blacks, 54 percent of Latinos and 49 percent of Asian-Americans.
Much of the blame for this lies with overly restrictive registration rules. Earlier this year, the League of Women Voters halted its registration drive in Florida after the state imposed onerous new requirements.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/opinion/17fri1.html?em
CFMT,
Yeah; disqualifying hundreds of thousands of eligible voters in advance of elections and using intimidation and threats against African-Americans and Native Americans if they DO vote–that’s all cool.
Republicans live to cheat and game the system. As an ever-shrinking minority party, that’s all you’ve got.
I HAD strongly considered not voting. My reasons would already be well known.
But Sarah Palin was my epiphany. John McCain demonstrated rank incompetence in picking her and SHE is just plain scary.
What a load of BS, BJ. Nobody believed you back in the Summer when you said you wouldn’t vote because your precious Hillary didn’t make it and nobody believes you now.
KFG,
Could you please let me know what the gay agenda is so I will know what to be a
I don’t really CARE if you belive me chrissy.
My post was honest. My mother and several other friends and family members had a similar experience.
KFG
part 2
fraid of and what I sould be looking out for
BlueJay – welcome home.
Freebird – I think I can answer yur question. Nothing to be afraid of. Simply a desire to allow gay couples to have the same protections as we heterosexual couples have. As a 37+ year married person I do not fear their “agenda”.
Thanks Ben.
Modem died.
I’m GLAD it did. Apparently it was defective. My computer absolutely FLIES now!
My aunt and uncle voted Obama today. THEY live in Virginia!
Blue Jay,
In all seriousness I’m glad it wans’t realted to a mishap with your family and nothing more serious than a modem
bth,
I was hoping to read one of her witty responses. My tongue was firmly in cheek when I posted that
Well everyone should vote straight democrat tickets.
Might as well get on line now. This is the last election you will see any other party or candidate on the ballot.
Once we get power this time, all three branches of government will fall in our hands within the next 8 years of democratic power.
There will be no turning back.
Please con’s vote for your Mcpuke/PaleAle ticket while you can. It will be the last you ever see.
dionysus,
I haven’t forgotten that the last time you posted to this blog you were against Obama. Don’t think your ploy will have much effect on anyone. But it is a public blog and everyone posts what they choose, so have fun. ;-)
Against Obama not exactly. I believe the country would be better served by Hillary Clinton – by far.
freebird – when I ran for the legislature back in 1994 the “Christians” (Godarchy) claimed that I was running on the gay rights agenda because I was a closet gay. This came as quite a surprise to my (then) teenaged son and wife of decades. The irony is that gay rights had never even been on anyone’s agenda during that campaign. So, when the issue comes up now I will state as best I can just what that agenda is (at least my understanding of it). I suspect that I probably understand it about as well as any non-gay can.
I find it rather amusing that self-described Christians believe that “Thou shalt not bear false witness” does not apply to them.
With all this bashing of ACORN by McCain and other loyal Republicans, I must only assume that they do not know that John McCain was the keynote speaker at the ACORN conference in 2006? And McCain even went so far as to praise this organization. Why all the hatred now?
mom posted October 17, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Why all the hatred now?
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For unprincipled people, desperate times justify unprincipled tactics.
That’s ok I will vote for you. Oops, better check with Acorn to make sure I get it right.
Gerrymandering coming back to bite you all in the ass! LOL