Wichita needs more nightlife

Our Tuesday editorial argued that Wichita needs ordinance changes and stepped-up enforcement to crack down on rogue nightclubs. But as the Metropolitan Area Planning Commission considers Thursday whether to approve a proposed country music dance hall and tavern at Towne West Square, it needs to consider business rights, neighborhood concerns and another thing — that Wichita needs more nightlife, not less, if it expects to attract and keep young people.

23 Comments

  1. JWink
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 6:40 am | Permalink

    Rhonda: Are you writing to provide fodder for the masses? I thought you were a product of conservative Halstead and later Chicago’s intellectual district. Do you really think young people of today are clamoring for more bars and dives, particularly in the present day environment of police blanketing the streets for drinking drivers?

  2. Raptor
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:23 am | Permalink

    Oh yeah…we need lots more gang hangouts, named after “gansta rappers” like “Big Chubb”. Just think, if Wichita opens enough of them, the gang problem will take care of itself.

  3. Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    “But as the Metropolitan Area Planning Commission considers Thursday whether to approve a proposed country music dance hall and tavern at Towne West Square, ”

    BORRRRiiiing.

    Country music sucks. Country dancing sucks. What is this dance hall and tavern? Day rec for nursing homes?

  4. alice75
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    We need more diverse nightlife, not just more. Quality over quantity thank you.

  5. Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    Open a gangsta rap bar in the Arena. Then let them fight it out on the floor – complete immunity given. Bulletproof plexiglass all around. Then sell tickets to the public to watch.

  6. TomPaine
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Old town doesn’t meet the need for Drinking establishments?

  7. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    “Open a gangsta rap bar in the Arena. Then let them fight it out on the floor – complete immunity given. Bulletproof plexiglass all around. Then sell tickets to the public to watch.”

    We call that professional wrestling these days.

  8. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    I’m not sure I get the connection between what is essentially a political forum and Wichita’s nightlife.

    Jazz joints, blues joints, rock clubs, hip-hop hangouts, sports bars, taverns, cocktail lounges, tapa places, strip clubs… seems they should live or die on that most basic conservative concept: What the market can sustain.

    If I want to open a Topless Square Dance Club, what’s the political issue involved?

  9. Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    If I want to open a Topless Square Dance Club, what’s the political issue involved?
    ————————
    Older, saggy body parts?

  10. Raptor
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Actually, it is a refreshing change to see something posted here that is NOT political. There used to be a lot of local issue topics on this forum. I for one would love to see them return…this constant political bickering is tiresome.

  11. Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    MH – the issue here is zoning. Where to allow them.

  12. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Damn. Every time I try to enjoy the night life, I get arrested, and my name gets in the papers.

  13. Tron25
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    More night life would be great!! As always consideration about zoning and other issues would need to be considered. Just because theres been a few people who have caused problems doesn’t mean we should all sit at home on Friday and Saturday night whatching TV. There are some great things going on in Wichita!

  14. brian_nuevo
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    “Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink
    If I want to open a Topless Square Dance Club, what’s the political issue involved?
    ————————
    Older, saggy body parts?”

    OK, why did you bring McCain into this?

  15. brian_nuevo
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    “beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:29 am | Permalink
    Damn. Every time I try to enjoy the night life, I get arrested, and my name gets in the papers.”

    So you are ’suspect in his early 20s’ … i thought that might be the case

  16. Wiseman
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    “That Wichita needs more nightlife, not less, if it expects to attract and keep young people.”

    I find it odd to have the need to attract and keep young people, for several reasons.
    1 – Where have they gone to?
    2 – Largest demographic in the retirement years.
    3 – Illegal immigration to re-supply a work force.
    4 – Choice of lifestyle dictates family values.
    And 5 is the United States paying a price for their rights to abortion?

  17. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    “And 5 is the United States paying a price for their rights to abortion?” — Wiseman

    No.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/world/12abortion.html

  18. Indie
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Well what night life would you suggest — lots of bars downtown / uptown everywhere — live music almost everywhere — Karoake seems crowded at all its venues — there’s always the 24 hour walmarts and walgreens — several places sponsor nights with — xoo / art museum /

    great to say more night life how about some brilliant ideas — oh wait ask visioneering wichita to send 50 folks to what vegas — you voted down a county casino — oh wait ask the Minnesota boys they have been bringing most of the original ideas to town ….

  19. Raptor
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Somehow, to me the idea of ‘nightlife’ being a reason to move to or stay in a town doesn’t make a lot of sense. People move for lots of reasons..job, family, climate…but I can’t fathom moving somewhere “for the nightlife”.

    Granted, my not knowing of it doesn’t deny the possibility..but has anyone ever heard of someone moving to/from a town for the bars?

    Seems like a strange priority compared with jobs, safe streets, low taxes, etc., that tend to draw people.

  20. mrbill
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Then why didnt the WE board and opinion hit on the head all the business people and city leadership for not supporting the Casino.

    Im guessing because the business people buy ads in our paper. So lets start smacking them around in public for not allowing the Casino. And why isnt the river bank being allotted out to build restaurants and clubs and art bistros as they are in the RiverWalk in San Antonio. The businesses need to be down on the sidewalk all up and down the river.

  21. Mr_Kia
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    We don’t need the “young people” that are causing the problems in some of these establishments.

  22. Posted September 10, 2008 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Raptor – agreed. Having relocated in the past I can tell you that employment opportunities, schools, housing ALL were more important than “where’s the nearest bar?”

  23. Posted September 10, 2008 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    “And why isnt the river bank being allotted out to build restaurants and clubs and art bistros as they are in the RiverWalk in San Antonio.”

    Because we need to use it for over-priced condos and Gander Mountain.