Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren said Sarah Palin talked with him last week, asking him “to send her some Bible verses on how do you deal with the unfair, unjust attacks and the mean-spirited criticism that comes in.”
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Sarah, If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Granted some of the things that have been said about her have been untrue and mean spirited but come on, You can’t tell she didn’y know that was going to happen
How is examining someone’s piss poor record an “unfair, unjust attack”? Sounds like the Republicans are whining again.
Let me say first that asking for help from a spiritual adviser is not playing the victim. Sarah Pain has been treated as despicably by the left for no reason at all. A person needs strength to deal with it all. And to rely on the strength of Lord is a Christian principle that those who are not of our faith will not understand. For Scholfield to see it as victim-hood is revealing of his ignorance and bias. You are quite a man Randy.
One would also hope that someone like Rick Warren would respect the confidentiality of those with whom he counsels. I am disappointed that he would throw that out in an interview.
Maybe Sarah should just start speaking in tongues again. That will get everyone to back away (back away and reach for their tazer for protection).
Maggot
You wreak with the stench of fear, smells like…..DemoCrap.
Go change your shorts.
Palin should have requested bible verses on how to be truthful instead. Now that her signature “Bridge-to-Nowhere” narrative has been repeatedly and properly shelved in the science fiction category, you’d think that Palin and her sidekick (errand boy?) McCain would work up another vaudeville routine to get them through September. It appears, however, that they plan to keep on trucking. Up is down. When you make the decision to run as an utter fraud, the only thing left is to take it all the way. The show must go on. Lights, camera, action. The lie must be repeated over and over and over and over. “Thanks, but no thanks.” Just keep saying it, Sarah. There’s less than two months to go.
What’s it mean for you, the voter? That’s easy. Palin and her sidekick have a low opinion of your intelligence. They think they can snow you.
Think of it as a test. If they can snow you in the election, then they can snow you once in the White House.
Perhaps Mr. Warren will be called upon to provide some bible verses.
Hey Maggot:
Randy & the rest of the Eagle editorial writers & editors are pathetic. Every one in both the GOP & Democrat party are afraid of a McCain-Palin administration because they will be so unpredictable. They could be “dangerous” reformers they could change the bi-partisan elitist fascism that is so clearly evident here in Wichita given he corrupt courts & local government. Too bad the so-called pro choice liberal civil libertarians in Wichita are just are narcisstic & brain dead as the local pro-life kingdom builders religious conservatives which are as narcisstic and brain dead as the local libertarian anti-tax groups. Too bad very few people in this county care about constitution rights. Every one (especially Senator Don Betts) seems to be a wannabee who is afraid to speak out for offending a corrupt & powerful interest group supporting their own political party. The liberal ACLU Democrats lie you are wasting a huge opportunity becasue you subscribe to Reagan’s 11th commandment to never criticize any one in your own party. You guys are more cowardly than the Republicans. I fully expect McCain & Palin to win the electon by triangulating against the press and the cynicism & corruption in both parties. The voters are a lot smarter that you & the Eagle writers & editors think they are.
Then she should have kept it to herself Outlander. Warren played this for all it was worth- any pastor should be forbidden from breaking that confidentiality unless she told him he could talk about it. Talk about milking the god vote. You’d think that the religious wouldn’t have to ask for prayers from God, that they’d know how to ask themselves.
This should not even be a subject on the blog. Just another reason the media is going to help Sarah and John win the whitehouse. What’s wrong with asking for god’s help?
I read Obama is now even starting to lose much of the Democrat vote….he was quoted as saying “I will make sure everyone that can work will have a job”.
Making a public spectacle out of asking for God’s help is the issue. Remember what we got from the last administration who thought they had God on their side.
I hope she keeps this up- the moderates will freak.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright
moron.” – H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)
George.
W.
Bush.
Worst.
President.
Ever.
So, asking for help is now being a ‘victim’? this paper has shed any last vestiges of impartiality, hasn’t it? This makes what, 8 negative Palin topics out of 9 posted?
the bias of this newspaper is clearly showing.
Piss_mom- Making a public spectacle out of asking for God’s help is the issue.
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Who made it public?
Did she take an add out in the paper?
Didn’t think so…..
I know the Palin attacks are backfiring around my house.
Raptor,
Last week I had ‘had it’ and gladly canceled my subscription to the print paper.
I will no longer support this paper as biased as they are.
Don’t worry, CONs.
After the novelty of this “Republican with a vagina” wears off, you’ll still be left with the old geezer.
Good luck with that.
Glad to hear Sarah Palin uses her faith to find strength and guidance. All things are possible with God.
OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS’ IRAQ WITHDRAWAL
” WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview. ”
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm
That two-faced liar!!! Seems the Dims boy is nothing but a two faced lying politician, all the while campaigning that he is something he’s not.
“Change”….yeah right.
I don’t know; what does the bible have to say about harlots?
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CapnAmerica
Posted September 15, 2008 at 7:48 am | Permalink
Don’t worry, CONs.
After the novelty of this “Republican with a vagina” wears off, you’ll still be left with the old geezer.
Good luck with that.
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President Geezer to you, boy.
This is a curious development. It fits right in with the McCain/Palin strategy, i.e., conflating some of the dumber and less honorable personal attacks with the very legitimate questions about her record (and also keeping her from answering questions in general).
She could have–and should have–asked Warren to keep her comments confidential.
Why is Rick Warren telling this to the mean ol’ press?
Of course, the source of Scholfield’s rumor was The Hill’s Blog, yet another Leftist Lib Website.
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/09/11/palin-called-rick-warren-for-guidance/
I wonder if the Publisher of the Wichita Eagle approves of Scholfield’s use of far left blogs as his news source?
If there is any doubt that Scholfield and BrownLib are not part of the far left press, then let all doubt be removed.
-You son is your Grandchild.
-Pursuing stories that someone other than the fiancee may be the father of your daughters unborn child.
-Husband has had multiple affairs
-She has had affair with husbands best friend
-Getting pregnant at 43 shows an error in judgement
These are unfair unjust attacks.
These are unfair unjust attacks.
True enough. I would also add “pointless distractions,” and “stupid waste of time,” as there are plenty of legitimate disturbing issues about Ms. Palin to raise.
BTW, who has been talking about any of that other crap recently–and when did regular press ever just that bandwagon?
Mark Levin has a full transcript of the first part of Charlie Gibsons interview with Palin. He has highlighted the parts that were edited out.
I didnt watch the interview but people who do said it was heavily chopped up. Looking at the trascript I can see why.
Pretty lousy journalism. Down right fraud.
http://marklevinshow.com/gibson-interview/
Mr_Kia posts,
“These are unfair unjust attacks.”
Mr_Kia, that’s all they’ve got!
Why does she not OFFER some help?
Before she asks for some?
Charging rape victims for their rape test kits.
FORCING a rape victim to carry to term.
A “god” or pastor who would help this…person…is not a “god” or pastor I want to know.
Obama produced his tax forms.
Biden produced his tax forms.
McCain produced his tax forms.
Sarah Palin? Uh, not so much. She’ll get back to us on that . . .
george
Posted September 15, 2008 at 7:01 am | Permalink
This should not even be a subject on the blog. Just another reason the media is going to help Sarah and John win the whitehouse. What’s wrong with asking for god’s help
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Acccording to the topic thread – Palin asked Rick Warren for help – not God’s help.
I have no problem with anyone’s faith but I do have to question when a person constantly has to tell everyone how ‘christian’ they are. If they were really living the christian life, no one would have to ask.
Besides, what does religion have to do with Palin’s experience to be vice president or president at a moment’s notice?
For every attack from the left on Palin there have been an equal or more attacks from the right on Obama and he has been attacked for a longer period of time. But yet I don’t see any Republicans on this blog bemoaning the fact that Obama is attacked.
Palin put herself in this position and she told Charlie Gibson that her life is an open book. Let’s open that book and see exactly what she has or has not done.
I saw “Professional Commercial Fisherman” Todd Palin on TV last night with the whole fandamily out in his little boat.
Yeah. I know professional commercial fishermen. Commercial fishermen are friends of mind.
Son, you’re no commercial fisherman.
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In fact, Todd Palin makes almost all his money as a unionized oil worker. Guess it doesn’t have the same panache.
Also, Sarah Palin seems to have conceived about a month before she and Todd got married.
I guess that “abstinice only” thing didn’t work so good twenty years ago either.
And Randy Scholfield is probably in his cubicle snickering like an eighth grader as his partners in immaturity like CapnAmerica practice the insult and rumor skills they learned in grade school.
That’s all they got.
Although, I have to give her credit.
At least she has had sex unlike like a lot of posters [cough, outlander, cough] on the CON side around here.
Yeah I got that too Capn.
CNN’s “Sarah Palin exposed” revealed that Sarah and Todd eloped. Baby Trak was born 8 not 9 months later.
Seems she can dish it out but can’t take it.
That’s all they got.
What would Palin do about the financial meltdown of Wall Street? Got anything except rhetoric?
BlueJay
Posted September 15, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink
Yeah I got that too Capn.
CNN’s “Sarah Palin exposed” revealed that Sarah and Todd eloped. Baby Trak was born 8 not 9 months later.
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Translated: BURN THE WITCH!!!!!!
What would Palin do about the collapsing health-care system in this country? Got anything except rhetoric?
Well, BlueJay–
It could have been a immaculate conception.
To listen to the CONs, she is after all next to God.
Here’s her speech–
Palin–Pitbulls.
Crowd–YAAAAA!
Palin–Alaska.
Crowd–YAAAAA!
Palin–Moose.
Crowd–YAAAAA!
Palin–Community Organizer.
Crowd–BOOOOO!
With a potential Vice President Palin and then President Palin (some wish that first step could just be skipped!), how many election cycles will it take to put women in power? How long will it take for women to control politics? Not just be THE largest voting block, but be THE candidates for most offices. How long will it take for men to learn to compete with the women candidates? Will the 2012 election have two women candidates representing the two major parties?
P.S. Substitute “McCain” for “Palin” in my two posts above.
Rinse. Repeat.
Palin DID kill the “bridge to nowhere” project. The Alaska Democrat Party even gave Palin credit for her actions, on their own, Democrat webpage.
Sarah Palin showed her political and class roots early on.
As Mayor of Wasilla, she cut property taxes and greatly increased sales taxes.
Yeah protect those that HAVE. Especially when your husband runs a snowmobile dealership. Stick it to the folks buying bread and soup.
Go ahead, which one of us is without sin? Let that one cast the first stone. A victim does not seek counsel. A victim hides in fear. I don’t see Sarah Palin hiding. She knew what she was getting into and as any good warrior would seek to do, she is clothing herself with an armor that is time and battle tested and it will not fail her.
Each year, almost 750,000 teenage women aged 15–19 become pregnant. In general, states with the largest numbers of teenagers also had the greatest number of teenage
pregnancies. California reported the highest number of adolescent pregnancies (113,000),
followed by Texas, New York, Florida and Illinois (with about 37,000–80,000 each). The
smallest numbers of teenage pregnancies were in Vermont, North Dakota, Wyoming, South
Dakota and Alaska, all of which reported fewer than 2,000 pregnancies among women aged 15–
19.
Statistics on Teen Sex
-Nationally, more than half of teenagers are virgins until they are at least 17 years of age (Sex and America’s Teenagers, The Alan Guttmacher Institute, New York, 1994).
-In the U.S., 7 in 10 women who had sex before age 14, and 6 in 10 of those who had sex before age 15 report having had sex involuntarily. (Facts in Brief: Teen Sex and Pregnancy, The Alan Guttmacher Institute, New York, 1996).
-Nationally, one-quarter of 15 year old females and less than 30% of 15 year old males have had sex, compared with 66% of 18 year old females, and 68% of 18 year old males who have had sexual intercourse. (A Statistical Portrait of Adolescent Sex, Contraception, and Childbearing, National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, Washington, DC, 1998).
A reminder: Mayor Palin’s “top three priorities” when she was running for governor:
12. In relationship to families, what are your top three priorities if elected governor?
JB: I will always support and work to strengthen families.
SP: 1. Creating an atmosphere where parents feel welcome to choose the venues of education for their children.
2. Preserving the definition of “marriage” as defined in our constitution.
3. Cracking down on the things that harm family life: gangs, drug use, and infringement of our liberties including attacks on our 2nd Amendment rights.
http://eagleforumalaska.blogspot.com/search?q=Palin
“Translated: BURN THE WITCH!!!!!!” — the wefu
This is so effing funny, given the behavior or the Republicans towards Democratic women over the past 20 years.
P.S. Translation: God, guns, and gays.
Franklin–
Just think of the all the lost wealth you will be responsible for today . . . well, you and your fellow RepubliCONs . . .
15 more minutes to meltdown and counting.
NTI
Posted September 15, 2008 at 9:35 am | Permalink
BlueJay
Posted September 15, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink
Yeah I got that too Capn.
CNN’s “Sarah Palin exposed” revealed that Sarah and Todd eloped. Baby Trak was born 8 not 9 months later
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Translation: How dare she not have had an abortion!
Palin DID kill the “bridge to nowhere” project. The Alaska Democrat Party even gave Palin credit for her actions, on their own, Democrat webpage.
Yeah, Palin killed the Bridge to Nowhere just like Dick Cheney “went hunting.”
Translation: How dare she not have had an abortion!
Uhm, no. Sane people would interpret that as hypocrisy, coming from someone who very likely condemns premarital sex.
But it’s okay if you’re a Republican.
Obama should get back to his base….Just like Palin has done for the GOP (It works for us). Heeheehehe.
Palin for President!
Bring out the leftist kooks Obama! We want more support!
Capn
Lehman Brothers gave more money to Obama than to any other Presidential candidate.
Lehman Brothers also supported Joe Biden.
Lehman Brothers also supported Hillary.
The mortgage business, and Wallstreet, have always employed a large number of Democrats, and they have always given huge amounts of money to Democrats.
Regular – you are assuming that Randy knows how to do investigative reporting. Well he doesn’t and he is not expected to. All he has to do is spew something out from anywhere and print it.
The dims are just scared to death because the media may have picked the candidates but they did not get to pick the VP’s. Palin brings a fresh face and perspective to the race. Biden just another DC insider.
Sorry media and dims you lost this one.
Yeah, Rage, the CONs have proven that they are physically incapable of seeing the log in their own eye while criticising the nano-particle in the opposition’s.
When a deprived inner-city (read “black”) girl gets pregnant before marriage, it’s because of a “liberal permissiveness” and “welfare culture.”
Let Sarah Palin and her daughter get knocked-up before marriage and it’s “a celebration of LIFE!”
Great God Almighty’s gonna cut you down.
What will Palin do about the enormous trade deficit, the jobs shipped overseas, the rampant cost-cutting, outsourcing, and offshoring? What will Palin do about the collapse of our manufacturing base?
Now substitute “McCain” in the above sentence.
Well outlander,
Palin kept secret her most recent pregnancy.
WHY does one keep secret such a blessed event? Was she taking her choices in mind?
And why did she travel for 10 hours while in labor?
Lehman Brothers political contributions:
Barack Obama $216,135
Rudy Giuliani $128,100
Hillary Clinton $119,500
John McCain $54,125
Mitt Romney $52,450
Chris Dodd $37,500
John Edwards $21,700
Joe Biden $16,100
Bill Richardson $13,800
Ron Paul $2,250
In addition, Biden was given $7,000 for his Senate campaign. This was the second highest contribution from Lehman, to a Senate campaign.
As much as she turns to her pastor when facing real world problems (to see what the Book has to say on the matter) America needs to thoroughly vet her pastor and his beliefs. With her penchant to advance old cronies into high office, I’d say the preacher is ln line for a very significant political appointment.
What would Sarah do about the poor, well the book says “the poor will always be with you”, so that settles that.
Sunflower5–
You still haven’t explained your lies about the Democratic candidate for District 8 in the Kansas forums.
All his endorsements are legitimate AND he hasn’t made a penny from working for the School Board.
Are you willing to admit you were wrong?
Or are you going to continue to stand by your lies?
Blue Jay
You are real good asking questions but for answering them not so good
What do you want “Freebird”?
Aside from a drink I mean?
RAGE
Drill here, drill now!
Drilling for our own oil and gas creates jobs, immediately.
Drilling for our own oil and gas reduces the trade deficit, immediately.
Drilling for our own oil and gas helps the steel industry and all of the other industries needed, to supply hardware and tools to the oil industry.
Drilling for our own energy will help keep prices down, which will help consumer spending, which will help the entire economy.
Drilling for our own energy will produce massive amounts of tax revenue.
Drill here, drill now!
That is the best economic policy anyone can have.
Obviously, the important thing is not how much money candidates get, it’s who is responsible for the economy that created the financial meltdown we’re seeing.
Hint, it’s not the party out of power for the first six years of Worst. President. Ever’s administration.
It will be soooo good when the women are in control!
Then you men can sit longer and argue over women, or maybe not. Maybe you’ll need to compete.
Maybe Franklin can explain why the US continues to EXPORT American oil . . . hmmm . . .
Oh, snap, Blue Jay!
Many women are in labor for several hours.
It has been falsely reported that Palin’s “water broke” when she was in the lower 48.
That is bull.
Sarah simply realized that she would soon be going into full labor and she went back to Alaska.
Privacy?
Only counts if you kill the kid, to these sick liberals.
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BlueJay
Posted September 15, 2008 at 9:54 am | Permalink
Well outlander,
Palin kept secret her most recent pregnancy.
WHY does one keep secret such a blessed event? Was she taking her choices in mind?
And why did she travel for 10 hours while in labor?
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Who cares and why is it any of your friggin’ business?
Agreed, Linda.
I want some woman to support me, like Regular’s sister does him . . .
BJ
Teasing Freebird about alcohol is beneath contempt.
You are a classless jerk.
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BlueJay
Posted September 15, 2008 at 9:59 am | Permalink
What do you want “Freebird”?
Aside from a drink I mean?
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See how the left is Freebird? They have no common decency.
Sunflower5? Sunflower5?
Okay, from now on, he or she will be known as DungflowerLive.
Well outlander,
Sarah Palin wants to make my life and choices her business. You don’t mind if I ask questions before she is allowed that do you?
PS I really do not care if you do.
Capn
It was President Clinton who signed the repeal of Glass-Steagel, which had kept Wallstreet out of the mortgage business.
Biden was a big supporter of that repeal.
Besides, Presidents do NOT “run the ecomony” and you are an idiot for saying any President is “responsible” for the economy.
You never did answer my question from yesterday just started dodging by resorting to you classic name calling and avoidance of the question tactic. Oh and you added a new one,accusing me of nic switching
Who cares and why is it any of your friggin’ business?
Actually, I agree that focusing on things like this is wrong. McCain wants the election to be about things like this, things that have nothing to do with governing.
And there’s an added bonus to sticking to the meaty subjects: you get hilarious responses like Franklin’s “drill now” rant above!
Obama the Liar
Obama lies in Selma Alabama Speech
Will Obama get the same media treatment with his lies? Don’t hold your breath. In a speech to a Selma, Alabama crowd meant to pump up his civil-rights movement authenticity and his Kennedy Camelot image, Barack Obama claimed that the Kennedy administration paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and therefore was responsible for his “very existence”. However, the first march on Selma took place on March 7, 1965. Obama would have been about three and half years old at that time. For some reason the media never did the math on this. The Camelot connection has become part of the mythology surrounding Obama’s bid for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Obama“There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Junior was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama.
Barack Obama also claims that President Kennedy helped his father travel to America with funds provided to Kenyans.
Obama“So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is. This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country.
Obama spokesman Bill Burton acknowledged yesterday that the senator from Illinois had erred aka Senator Obama lied in crediting the Kennedy family with a role in his father’s arrival in the United States. He said the Kennedy involvement in the Kenya student program apparently “started 48 years ago, not 49 years ago as Obama has mistakenly suggested in the past.”
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The Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama’s father. According to historical records and interviews with participants, the Kennedys were first approached for support for the program nearly a year later, in July 1960. The family responded with a $100,000 donation, most of which went to pay for a second airlift in September 1960.
Senator Barack obama just makes things up and outright lies. How can anyone ever trust this man to be President of the United States? He can’t even tell the truth about his own family and re-arranges historical events in U.S. history to make himself look good.
Do not elect this liar, Barack obama.
(1)Selma Speech from Obama/Biden Campaign Page.
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/04/selma_voting_rights_march_comm.php
(2)NewsBusters.org “More Obama Lies the Media Will Ignore.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-stephenson/2008/03/30/more-obama-lies-media-will-ignore
Linda, did you not tell us, recently, how wonderful and kind your friend, BJ, is?
He is teasing a man who is brave enough to go through a 12 step program.
BJ is an ass.
You are a coward, Linda, for not telling him so.
BlueJay
Posted September 15, 2008 at 10:05 am | Permalink
Well outlander,
Sarah Palin wants to make my life and choices her business…
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“Delusions of grandeur”, I believe that symptom of mental illness is called. Or is it paranoia?
Well Freebird I don’t SEE everything that is posted here.
If you have a question ask it or quit chewing my ankles.
Franklin,
don’t worry it would take someone a a LOT smarter than him to deter me,I do feel sorry for him though,going through life so full of hatred and contempt for those that dare disagree with him.
The question was asked yesterday,Simply put why do you have such dislike for those that have more than youand why should they give up what they have worked for.
Outlander?
Sarah Palin would ban the right to choose even in case of rape.
This means that she would take away the choice that she herself had.
How DO you force a woman or a couple to take on the lifelong responsibility of a Down syndrome “gift”?
Besides, Presidents do NOT “run the ecomony” and you are an idiot for saying any President is “responsible” for the economy.
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Yeah. It was pure coincidence that Clinton raised taxes and paid down the debt and that GDP increased and the stock market soared.
And it is pure coincidence that BushCONs did the exact opposite and the exact opposite occured.
Only an idiot could see a pattern here.
From that notoriously liberal website “The Army Times” –
McCain on FCS: Flip-flop or fib?
By Bradley Peniston – Staff writer
Posted : Sunday Sep 14, 2008 9:27:47 EDT
Has Sen. John McCain renounced his longtime antagonism toward the Army’s Future Combat Systems?
On Sept. 8, the Republican presidential candidate told a rally crowd in Lee’s Summit, Mo., about an Obama video message to a liberal advocacy group.
“He promised them he would, quote, ‘slow our development of Future Combat Systems,’” McCain said, according to wire reports. “This is not a time to slow our development of Future Combat Systems.”
Flashback to July, however, when his campaign furnished McCain’s economic plan to The Washington Post, declaring that “there are lots of procurements — Airborne Laser, [C-17] Globemaster, Future Combat System [sic] — that should be ended and the entire Pentagon budget should be scrubbed.”
In fact, McCain has long criticized the over-budget, behind-schedule FCS program. In 2005, he blasted the Army for allowing the program to balloon to $161 billion, and forced the service to rewrite the main FCS contract.
So where does McCain really stand?
Full article at:
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/defense_mccain_FCS_091208/
BlueJay
Posted September 15, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink
Outlander?
Sarah Palin would ban the right to choose even in case of rape.
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I’ll answer. Wrong, and won’t happen. Now what else do you have?
As Much as I hate to admit it I do have to agree with Blue Jay on this one. While I don’t personally agree with abortion No one should have the right to tell a woman what she can or can’t do with her body
When ALL of you men actually realize women will soon be in control of that last bastion of maleness — our political process — maybe then you also can actually realize that THIS election is between Senators McCain and Obama.
Barring tragedy, Palin is McCain’s running mate. She is currently being coached, taught, prepped, packaged by Republican leaders so she can totally understand that McCain will continue the failed policies of bush in all things economic and all things to do with foreign policy and giving back to the haves and have mores.
I know Palin is WOMAN and soon will begin concentrating on how she can keep the failures of a potential McCain presidency from sticking to her and having any effect on her run for the presidency.
And, you guys better start facing the reality of women in control. Why remain THE largest voting block when we can just simply take over the jobs and do them right!
Can you imagine if Obama had called Rev. Wright about how to deal with the same problem?
“Simply put why do you have such dislike for those that have more than you”
I don’t. At least not universally.
“why should they give up what they have worked for.”
Because in many, perhaps most cases, they have not worked for it. They have worked others and used them to make money for themselves. They owe back.
That’s off topic for this thread “Freebird” but you can stop using it for your focus now.
“Simply put why do you have such dislike for those that have more than you and why should they give up what they have worked for.”
I don’t and neither does Blue Jay.
Speaking for myself, I have plenty of friends and family that are wealthy.
I believe, simply put, that living in a modern society costs money. A lot of money.
The people that have benefited from that society the most should be asked to pay the most. Historically, the wealthy are paying the least in overall taxation (that includes all taxes like Soc Security, estate taxes, capital gains tax, and sales taxes, not just income taxes) since the Roaring 20’s.
And, surprise, we have wealth inequality not seen since the 20’s too . . .
Mccain/Palin-Thanks, But No Thanks!
Blue Jay writes, “Because in many, perhaps most cases, they have not worked for it. They have worked others and used them to make money for themselves. They owe back.”
Damn right. “The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor” Voltaire
RepubliCONs who control the party want to make sure that there’s an abundant supply of the poor for exploitation by the rich.
And they have succeeded magnificiently since Worst. President. Ever.
CapnAmerica
Posted September 15, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink
Blue Jay writes, “Because in many, perhaps most cases, they have not worked for it. They have worked others and used them to make money for themselves. They owe back.”
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Like Capn’A who makes 6 figures and married wealth.
Hypocrite.
It’s not off topic to recommend the book “The Wrecking Crew” by Thomas Frank.
Sarah Palin is the epitome of the right as defined in that book. She WALLOWED in earmarks. But when called on it? She doesn’t love them anymore.
Later.
I think Palin should be at the top of the Republican ticket – such a political star should not be relegated to such a meaningless post as V.P.
She is the only thing that is generating any excitement on the GOP side. People I know are asking “John, who?”.
What’s this nonsense about Palin having no foreign policy experience? Her state is next door to Canada and Russia – that has to count for something. I want her finger on the nuclear button – she won’t take no crap off of those Ruskies.
Figures that Schofield would ridicule Palin for seeking guidance from God.
Palin for president in ‘08!!!
Palin is like a hybrid of Brownback and Bush.
Wonder how many points Palin is leading mccain by?
Just as an aside, then I have to go, it doesn’t bother me so much when wealthy people I know vote RepubliCON.
People like HLP whose wife is an MD have a good reason–a selfish reason but an understandable one–the RepubliCONs are going to benefit them by shifting costs of government to the middle class or to future generations (same thing).
What boggles the mind is why middle-class and working-class folks like outlander, boxlock, Grobnik etc. cut their own throats by voting for these class warriors.
It’s the economic equivalent of “Jews for Hitler.”
And then there’s the really wacko like GMC who works for the government and who continually votes for the people who “hate government” and believe that it’s always inefficient and wasteful.
Barack Obama has been under attack since he became the democratic nominee. Sarah Palin has been under attack since she became the VP pick. It’s all the same. This sort of thing always happens to political candidates. If Mrs. Palin is having a diffifcult time dealing with it, why does she need to call someone from a different church than her own for moral support? The republicans are looking for more free media coverage. Seriously, let’s get over the Palin thing and get back to discussing the main candidates.
“If Mrs. Palin is having a diffifcult time dealing with it, why does she need to call someone from a different church than her own for moral support?”
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I will be the woman who brings this front and center. Women have always known how to “play” men and how to get attention.
Doesn’t Gov. Palin have everyone’s attention? Some of the attention is negative, some positive, but she has it all!
And McCain doesn’t have to explain anything about what his presidency will look like.
You asked what the question was.
Sarah Palin has never done anything this hypocritical (well, almost never):
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McCain opens the spigots
By Jim Hightower – Tue., 9/2/08
“I am very angry, frankly, at the oil companies, not only because of the obscene profits they’ve made, but at their failure to invest in alternate energy to help us eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.”
–Sen. John McCain June 13, 2008
Where did that guy go? He was the Republican senator who built his maverick image in part by taking on the oil barons, opposing them on such big issues as opening our public waters to drilling rigs. But, astonishingly, the senator who was so angry at oil executives is now hugging them like old buddies and parroting their line. “My friends, we have to drill offshore. We have to do it,” he declares today. Why do we “have to” do it? Because, he says, ” the oil executives” told him it would be a good thing.
To know what caused this stunning flip-flop, follow the money. On June 16–only three days after his “angry” speech–McCain gave another talk in which he abruptly reversed his long-held opposition to offshore drilling. Then, that very same day, he boarded his “Straight Talk Express” airplane and flew off to Texas for–guess what?–a series of fundraisers with oil executives. On June 17, for example, he snuggled with energy honchos at a closed-door luncheon at the San Antonio Country Club–and walked out with a love offering of $1.3 million for his presidential campaign.
A McCain spokesman said huffily that it is “completely absurd” for anyone to suggest that the candidate’s switch in position had anything to do with oil money. “McCain takes positions because he thinks it’s the right thing to do for America,” the spokesman insisted. Uh…which position would that be, sir? The angry anti-oil view expressed on June 13, or the exact opposite delivered three days later?
If McCain is confused on the political equation of “position = money,” Big Oil definitely is not. Prior to his miraculous conversion on June 16, the industry had never warmed up to him, ranking a distant 12th on his career list of top contributors. With his speech and Texas schmoozefest, however, McCain opened the spigots. As one advisor to oil companies put it, “I think the industry was very appreciative.”
http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/node/1743
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Funny how those oil people were able to buy McCain for a mere 1.3 million dollars – doesn’t that dumbass know they have a lot more than that? Pretty poorly brokered deal if you ask me. What does it say about McCain that he so cheaply values his soul. Palin for President!!!
Capn
There was a recession at the end of Clinton’s second term.
Also, the “tech bubble” happened under Clinton.
linda
Dream on.
Women hate each other.
If you want to take down a woman, in the workplace?
All you have to do is encourage another woman to do the dirty work.
Women simply do not get along with each other, very well.
Hell, it was probably Michelle Obama who kept Hillary off the VP list.
Capn
You are wrong.
The “rich” pay a higher percentage of the total federal income tax revenue than ever before in history.
The main stream media has barely mentioned William Ayers.
Obama is being protected by the press.
Capn’A leaves and so do the other libs…interesting…
It has been falsely reported that Palin’s “water broke” when she was in the lower 48.
Then Palin falsely reported it.
“Women hate each other”
Maybe the women you know Paul. Most of the women I know work very well together – and with men for that matter.
There is a difference between the leaking of embryotic fluid and water breaking.
I don’t think it is unusual for a woman who is about to give birth to a child she knows is going to have complications to want the care of her personal physician either.
I believe that Palin said she went into labor, not that her water broke.
Big difference.
Hillary and Michelle do NOT work well together.
“Women hate each other”
Maybe the women you know Paul. Most of the women I know work very well together – and with men for that matter.
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We either know the same women, Ben, or at minimum know women with more on the ball. ;-)
I will admit the men I know and work with don’t resemble Paul either.
There is a difference between the leaking of embryotic fluid and water breaking.
This has less to do with the advance of labor than it does with the chance of infection. The longer a woman waits, the higher the chance.
I believe that Palin said she went into labor, not that her water broke.
She said both, although she didn’t use the term “water broke”. Would you like the quote?
“Women hate each other”
Men hate each other. The proof is on this blog.
But change, SHE is a comin’! ;-)
“Women hate each other”
W.T.F?
Not in my world, heheh. What color is the sky in YOUR world?
IIRC, tippy is the only woman who hated the other women on this blog. Grmie runs a distant second in that regard.
But… have you noticed (I guess NOT) that the women here are generally cordial and supportive of each other, even when we dont agree? And frequently, we do NOT agree!
As far as the workplace, hell, I wouldnt have had the greatest jobs I’ve had if a woman hadnt hired me or influenced the hiring! Geez, older women were my mentors and protectors and promoters the whole time I was in the “workforce”.
And women continue to be my best customers. I have a woman lawyer and a woman banker and a woman mechanic, to name a few.
And as for the rest of the women in my life? Heheheh. Well, you KNOW the rest of the story :)
…and back to the topic…
What’s up with this saddleback guy? He’s determined to prove he’s influential and a player. I wonder who he’s trying to prove it to? The voting public? Other evangelical alpha males? His congregation?
Himself?
God?
Makes ya wonder why he keeps injecting himself into this campaign? What does he want?
I think someone needs a hug…
“If you want to take down a woman, in the workplace?
All you have to do is encourage another woman to do the dirty work.”
Definitely indicative of (a) Paul’s modus operendi and (b) the kind of people Paul hangs with.
I think it’s also indicative of how republicans generally regard women. Useful tools. Sara palin anyone?
I think paul thinks all women are like bon bon. A very hateful and spiteful woman. And Susan Wagle. And Brenda Landwehr.
And the list could go on. Germie. Tippy. Yep….
Republican woman are hateful and DO like to spite other women.
There’s a name for that, ya know. No, not that one. They are known as Queen Bees.
ouch!
Sorry, I should have put this here, instead of the open thread. It is more relevant heree
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Is this a fairly accurate comparison of the intereviews with Obama and Palin? If so, yes, she indeed is a victim of bias. and the press.
Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]
from
http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/09/12/side-by-side-gibson-questions-more/
Sorry, I should have put this here, instead of the open thread. It is more relevant heree
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Is this a fairly accurate comparison of the intereviews with Obama and Palin? If so, yes, she indeed is a victim of bias. and the press.
Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]
from
http://theanchoressonline.com/2008/09/12/side-by-side-gibson-questions-more/
damn. i posted it twic here somehow. SOrry. Damn again
“ksfarmgrrl” observes –
“… it’s also indicative of how republicans generally regard women.”
And African Americans, e.g, J.C. Watts, Alan Keyes…
And gays, e.g., the Log Cabin Republicans…
And seniors, and veterans, and Hispanics and….
LJ,
I sort of see your point. The questions were different. Obama has been answering the same type of questions Palin was asked for at least the past 2 years and has a record in the Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate. Oh, yeah, and he actually WENT to Iraq to visit troops.
Palin? Not so much. If the questions aren’t asked or if she isn’t addressing these things in her campaign speeches, how are we to know where she stands on these things? Maybe when we get the answers to her questions, we’ll have a better idea of where she stands on the larger issues. After that, she can answer questions more similar to those asked of Obama that you posted.
And, of course, one of those couldn’t be asked of Palin: How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling? It would concern her family and that’s off limits, right?
Todd Palin may fish.. but his real job is in oil production…..
DavidB
Posted September 15, 2008 at 11:56 am | Permalink
Todd Palin may fish.. but his real job is in oil production…..
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So.
The Charlie Gibson interview mentioned in littlejohn’s was on June 4, 2008–the day Obama clinched the Democratic nomination, hence Gibson chose to focus on the historic occasion. To imply that the press hasn’t asked such questions and more of Obama is quite remarkable.
Palin has yet to really be challenged.
Should Gibson have asked more substantive questions of Obama? Sure. And, despite the childish complaining in this forum and elsewhere, he should have been tougher on Palin as well.
To try to present Gibson–Brit Hume’s good friend and a fan of his Special Report–as somehow shilling for Obama is beyond silly.
Hey,
I didn;t say she shouldn;t have been asked those questions. She should have. And more. Not once can you find me “whining” about the press treatment of Palin. Go ahead. Look for it. Take all day and do a bonedig for all I care. I’m not voting for McCain/Palin regardless. Can;t stand the top of the ticket, whom the election is about. I could care less about Palin/Biden.
I was sent a link to the website. I asked if it were valid. I don;t care if Gibson if a friend of Brit Hume, or God Almighty. I didn;t suggest he was “shilling” for anybody. I did suggest that if he only thru soch softballs to Obama, and asked the “legitimiate” questions only to Palin, he was clearly showing his bias. An opinion to which I still hold.
I thought Gibson’s questions for Palin were fair and reasonably tough. Much better than what I expected. If he “attacked” her in anyway, it was for not answering a question, but instead dancing around it. That’s a typical political ploy, used by ALL.
Good point rage. I would note that Obama had been getting those other types of questions for a year by that time.
“To imply that the press hasn’t asked such questions and more of Obama is quite remarkable.”
I didn;t imply anything. I don;t know anything about the website linked, and so asked about the legitimacy of the informaaiton.
“To try to present Gibson–Brit Hume’s good friend and a fan of his Special Report–as somehow shilling for Obama is beyond silly.”
Only in your eyes sir, only in your eyes did that occur in my post. I don;t give a damn about Gibson, his friends, or his religion, or whether he moose hunts or rolls around on the floor as a member of a pentecostal church. SOme things that seems to be far more important to the left.
Let’s see if I got this right. A democratic female running for vice president would further woman movement.
But a republican female running for the same office is an evil awful thing?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Big difference is in the women themselves. All women are not interchangeable.
The American nightmare continues. The collapse of Lehman Bros., AIG, and Merrill Lynch are more to lay at the feet of the republican administration. The GOP has ran for many decades on deregulation. In this case they succeeded. They deregulated the mortgage banks from the investment banks and you reap today what they have sewn. The “free for all” after this deregulation has brought to bear the current situaton. They hypocrisy that I am hearing today from the right is “we need to restore regulation”. Is that the same regulation you so strongly opposed in the past? The part of the New Deal that was put in place to ensure that this exact situation would not happen? You can thank President Bush, Phill Gramm, and his lovely wife for your retirement disappearing before your very eyes.
Bear Stearns was the tip of the iceberg. More large investment banks are going to collapse. The market will be below 10,000 shortly. Your 401k and IRA’s will be worthless soon. The end of structured credit as we know it is upon us. Enjoy!!
No AmWay – you don’t have it right. An unqualified person running is an issue. Just like it was when the Democrats ran an unknown woman for VP some years ago.
RE: Todd Palin, Mccain was pointing out that Todd was a man’s man at his town hall.
Todd races 2 thousand miles in 40 below weather, and he’s a champion racer, he’ll fit right in in Washington. (When does Washington hold their snowmobile races?)
The only snow that is in Washington is moved to the inner cities. Its called cocaine. Maybe thats what McCain was talking about. Can Todd ride his snowmobile through the inner cities?
“An unqualified person running is an issue.”
Got it BTH.
Unqualified is an issue for the Vice President, but not for the President. Heck, Palin has more experience/qualifications than Obama.
I see the fear mongers are out doing their best work.
This financial shake up is long overdue. The risk takers took on too much and are paying the price for easy credit. The financial world will be better off as this shakes out.
If you listen to panic mongers like mwhitty74 you will sell now with the market down and live to regret it. The bargain hunters will snap it up and they will be the ones to profit in the coming rally.
This could be a great buying opportunity. But I’d wait for a bit to see how it develops.
I didn;t say she shouldn;t have been asked those questions.
Settle down, lj. I was talking about the link.
Obama had a great quote today: “Instead of prosperity trickling down, we’re seeing the pain trickle up.”
Of course any salve will be applied at the top.
No panic here Outtie. Moved my funds long ago. Unlike you, I saw this on the horizon. You go ahead and ride out this storm. Sadly you don’t know if its a shower or a hurricane. Wish you all the best with that. Your repuke friends have hung you out to dry. Sorry to hear that.
Right Outlander, we are seeing the logical conclusion of the Republican great “ownership society” miracle.
I saw this coming when I first heard about how lax the mortgage company had become, years ago. But I didn’t conceive of all the far reaching implications.
-The GOP has ran for many decades on deregulation. In this case they succeeded.
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March, 1980–Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act (DIDMCA) enacted. The law is a Carter Administration initiative. Democrap controlled congress.
Remember savings and loans?
Rage-
Gotcha. Have a geat day!
I don’t hear Obama starting off his speeches with a tip o’ the hat to Biden and Biden’s wife, what’s up with that.
Will Mccain be reduced to introducing Palin, when they team back up?
Phantasy-
Posted September 15, 2008 at 12:41 pm | Permalink
Obama had a great quote today: “Instead of prosperity trickling down, we’re seeing the pain trickle up.
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Read: Demoraps are happiest when americans feel “pain” and not prosperity.
Savings and Loans will be a blip compared to what is on the horizon. Do some research on the deregulation that I spoke about earlier. Phill Gramm and his Bush appointed wife deregulating the investment banks and the mortgage banks. Once this wall was torn down, the housing boom was on. You cannot play with this crucial economic indicator and not expect bad things to happen.
We can rest assured of one thing, with all of its consolidating of other institutions, BankofAmerica will be the definition of “Too Big To Fail”.
Listen to the repukes scream..”market correction, market correction…..it will fix itself”. Hows that working out right now?
Dow down 325pts
This was when the S&L activity began to explode, In 1982 with the passage of the bill below, Carter left office in Jan. 1981, nice try.
“In 1982, the combined tangible net capital of this industry was $4 billion. The chartering of federally regulated S&Ls accelerated rapidly with the Garn – St Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982, which was designed to make S&Ls more competitive and more solvent. S&Ls could now pay higher market rates for deposits, borrow money from the Federal Reserve, make commercial loans, and issue credit cards. They were also allowed to take an ownership position in the real estate and other projects to which they made loans and they began to rely on brokered funds to a considerable extent. This was a departure from their original mission of providing savings and mortgages.
If/when the collapse funnels into 401k’s there’s going to be blood in the streets. That’s the last pocket of wealth for the average american.
This is a market correction IMHO; a long-lived one, to continue for years, as the derivatives are untangled, the underlying assets liquidated, and tightening of credit. I note with some interest that the $70 Billion loan package put together (mentioned in one of the many things I’ve read) by seven large banks has the potential to grow, if others join into the pool. I also took note of the provisions put in place by the Fed (from the linked article in the header of the latest thread posted) which allow for different forms of collateral to be used to borrow from it. Unclear to me if this is a relaxation of collateral requirements.
Outlander, patience as you counsel will likely be rewarded. I don’t have a feeling for how long one will need to be patient, but suggest the term will be measured in months, not weeks.
Buy a mop. Its a simple matter of time. If a democratic admistration was responsible for this, repukes would be calling for someones head. The fact is very simple, the republicans are fully responsible for this. They controlled congress and the presidency when this deregulation occured. Period. This was more looting of the treasury. Greed at its absolute worst.
Brain Dead Democrats Guide to the Economy:
by Barack Obama
A weakened economy is the legacy of Bush.
Therefore Bush caused the weakened economy in the US (Let’s ignore the declining Global economy until after November).
Vote against Bush to prevent a worsening economy.
Don’t ask from your Democrat Leaders to explain how the Bush tax cuts can possibly have contributed to lowered economic vitality.
Don’t ask us to explain how anything Bush did can logically be purported to have reduced the quality of the business climate in the US.
Don’t bother to understand the fundamentals of why things REALLY happen in the economy, just vote Democrat.
Obama 08 Change we Need!
“Let’s see if I got this right. A democratic female running for vice president would further woman movement.
But a republican female running for the same office is an evil awful thing?” — American_Way
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In MY book, any female running for this high a position will further the female movement!
I truly think in 2012 the two major party candidates for POTUS will be women! That’s a pretty quick advancement, don’t you think!? I further think it won’t take but a very few election cycles for women to be the dominant players in politics at every level.
I think you boys should get used to the fact quickly!
Why should we remain only the largest block of voters when we can just take over the jobs and get them done correctly!?
lindastinks55- get them done correctly!?
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Like hillarys healthcare?
or like reno’s waco maybe?
just a couple of fine examples….
Now you’re getting there, biased1. Of course we need health care affordable and available for every American. Women know that best! And, if you knew what you were talking about with regard to Janet Reno I might respond, but it seems you have an opinion reflected by your nic. I’ve always found it impossible to interact successfully on ideas with someone possessed of theirs. One convinced may listen and may learn, but never one possessed.
“I think you boys should get used to the fact quickly!”
Darn Linda. I agree with you for once.
Please do not be decieved, it’s not about the gender, it’s about the ADGENDA — the left wing / communist / marxist / socialist ADGENDA — if my dog or cat was to run on that platform — my dog or cat would be the left’s new darling
Predestined
Posted September 15, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink
I thought Gibson’s questions for Palin were fair and reasonably tough. Much better than what I expected. If he “attacked” her in anyway, it was for not answering a question, but instead dancing around it. That’s a typical political ploy, used by ALL.
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Did you bother to read the entire interview before editing. The way the editing was done entire meanings of what was said changed.
Gibson is a lightweight and if he did his own editing he is also dishonest.
hillary care- failed, so embarrassed, bill had to fire her. his own wife. what a shame for him.
–And, if you knew what you were talking about with regard to Janet Reno I might respond,–
Waco, you know, where reno (americas first woman attorney general) ordered the raid that resulted in the deaths of 87 american women and children.
the left wing / communist / marxist / socialist “agenda” LOLOLOLOL
aww ya left out the homosexuals…
I am sure you can load some more irrelevant scary words in there……
Hey DavidB — Explain the fundemental doctrine of Communism — can you do that ?
Linda not sure I understand your response to biased1 about Reno and Waco. I thought she took the responsibility for that.
We do have some strong women coming up in both parties and I look forward to seeing them get an opportunity to govern. I do however want them to be elected because they are the most qualified and not because they are women.
We would be riding that slippery slope downward if this happens. Hopefully the day will come when we always look at qualification and past achievements before we look to see what initial follows the name on a ballot.
biased1
Posted September 15, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink
hillary care- failed, so embarrassed, bill had to fire her. his own wife. what a shame for him.
–And, if you knew what you were talking about with regard to Janet Reno I might respond,–
Waco, you know, where reno (americas first woman attorney general) ordered the raid that resulted in the deaths of 87 american women and children.
87 women and children. Thats so tragic. I once heard of a man that started a war on false pretences. Where 100’s of women and children were killed almost everyday. Hmmmm…..I wonder what that guys name was???
lindastinks55- I’ve always found it impossible to interact successfully on ideas with someone possessed of theirs.
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Pot can’t call the kettle black. (ie.Why should we remain only the largest block of voters when we can just take over the jobs and get them done correctly!?)
ROFLMFAO!
mwitless74- I once heard of a man that started a war on false pretences. Where 100’s of women and children were killed almost everyday. Hmmmm…..I wonder what that guys name was??
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Saddam Hussain. But thanks to the good old US, he was hanged by his neck for his treachery.
Saddam Hussain. But thanks to the good old US, he was hanged by his neck for his treachery.
Saddam Hussain invaded America? When did that happen?
Don’t forget the Democrats before the war [ http://www.bercasio.com/movies/dems-wmd-before-iraq.wmv ]
Hey DavidB — Explain the fundemental doctrine of Communism — can you do that ?
That Palin girl. She was one that believed her teacher when she said that “girls could grow up to be anything they wanted to be”. She took it to heart. She thought she could be an athlete, she was right. Then a mayor, then a governor, now a VP?
‘Course a lot of mothers and fathers that repeated those words to their own precious daughters now shamelessly lie and try to assassinate Ms. Palin’s character. Their reason? Because she doesn’t agree with them politically.
I wonder what they would do if it were their daughter up there taking the hits while trying to break new ground?
what ever happened to little davidB ??
Yes, teach your daughter that if she can work her way through community colleges, eventually get a degree in communications, she’s prepared herself for a role in Govt., and yes even the presidency.
The boys have had their chances and I’m not tickled pink with their outcomes, don’t know many who are. They’ll move over and let the women handle things soon!
dadman
Posted September 15, 2008 at 2:02 pm | Permalink
what ever happened to little davidB ??
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really, how long does it take to clean out a fryer?
outlander
Posted September 15, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
That Palin girl. She was one that believed her teacher when she said that “girls could grow up to be anything they wanted to be”. She took it to heart. She thought she could be an athlete, she was right. Then a mayor, then a governor, now a VP?
‘Course a lot of mothers and fathers that repeated those words to their own precious daughters now shamelessly lie and try to assassinate Ms. Palin’s character. Their reason? Because she doesn’t agree with them politically.
I wonder what they would do if it were their daughter up there taking the hits while trying to break new ground?
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First of all, if we go by your theory to vote for a woman just because she is breaking new ground, then why not vote for Obama because he is the first black man running for president? That is the same thing.
As for the hits taken by Palin – she was the one that said her life is an open book. Let’s just open that book and see exactly what she has or has not done.
Charles Gibson did not attack Palin in his interview. In fact, didn’t the McCain campaign hand-pick Gibson to be the only mainstream media to interview her? Now they don’t like him and are trying to smear him because Palin came off looking like a deer in headlights.
lindastinks55- They’ll move over and let the women handle things soon!
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Just like home eh? bitch enough and…………
how long does it take to clean out a fryer ?? — must be a long time
Mom did you and I see the same interview and did you read the actual questions and answers on the transcript that was posted this morning?
She did very well. Even when Gibson tried his ambushes she didn’t flinch actually talked him down more than once. Those were the ones he edited out.
She is impressive and a fast learner.
Phantom
Posted September 15, 2008 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
Yes, teach your daughter that if she can work her way through community colleges, eventually get a degree in communications, she’s prepared herself for a role in Govt., and yes even the presidency.
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Phantom this is your try at humor I guess. Actually look at her education achievements if you are still confused. And stop putting community colleges down. They are a very good alternative for students not sure of their major or not able to finacially go to a 4 year school right away.
With money being tight their enrollments have escalated. Smart students will control the cost of their education and student loans in this way.
WOOF!
WOOF!
WOOF!
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?
WOOF!
WOOF!
WOOF!
2 Palin Posts A Day Every Day!
Welcome to the WE Blog Attack Dog!
The continuous, redundant, slanderous attacks will continue. Repeat the same lies over and over, and idiots will think they are true!
Except for Bush, never has the press attacked a candidate more then Palin.
This is an unprecedented attack in scope and repetitiveness.
Never before, as the press gave a rats ass about the VP!
Who let the dogs out?
Excuse me??? The woman is one heartbeat (of a 72 – 75 year-old heart) away from the presidency of the USA!
The office of vice-president is worth a little public vetting. Don’t blame “The Press.” Blame American voters like me who demand to know what this candidate might be capable of.
If she cannot stand up to the spotlight of scrutiny, John McCain made a poor choice indeed, and she is not worthy of the office she seeks.
mwhitty
You are wrong.
The repeal of Glass Steagall was signed by Bill Clinton.
Biden voted for that repeal.
Obama’s economic advisors include MANY from the mortgage business.
I’ve NEVER seen the WEBlog post 2 Topics per Day Every Day on ANYONE ELSE, until now.
The WE Blog Truly Fears Palin!!!
Don’t you get tired of redundant posts every day with the same attacks on the same person?
I hate redundant posts, don’t you?
Redundant posts are well, redundant.
You know I love Sarah Palin but I’m starting to get worried now that some of the brighter demon crats are going public with their feelings on Sarah.
“Lindsay Lohan isn’t happy with Republican vice presidential candidate John McCain’s choice of running mate, Sarah Palin.”
How can we counter the homosexual Lohan?
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 15, 2008 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
I’ve NEVER seen the WEBlog post 2 Topics per Day Every Day on ANYONE ELSE, until now.
The WE Blog Truly Fears Palin!!!
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Kinda slows down having to defend the Ones agenda….
Hey DavidB — Explain the fundemental doctrine of Communism — can you detail that ?
let me help you — capatalism or communism — take from those who have and give it to those who have not
Dadman I think you and I must have gone to the same school. Obviously DavidB and Chas didn’t because they think capitalism is the enemy and that enemy will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross!
I think this is the new Social Studies you know kinda like the new math where 2+2=5.
I find it amazing how the democrats and the media are attacking Gov. Palin and her record, yet it appears it is “hands off” when doing the same to Senator Obama. In fact I haven’t seen anything of Senator Biden in the media. Have they forgotton he is a VP candidate? I don’t object to questioning our leaders or those that are seeking office, however it should be done with some sense of intelligence and done fairly. The media and the democratic ticket have seen fit to attack Gov. Palin and ignore the records and issues of Senators Obama and Biden. Is this election to be decided by the media or by the voters? It would be nice and appropriate to see the media apply the same diligence towards Senators Obama and Biden.
Looks like Palin’s going to get caught in her troopergate lies:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5804703&page=1
I know okobserver – I don’t understand this “new math” I guess if they FEEL that 2+2 = 5 then it must be right to them
I’m impressed I didn’t see the Bridge to nowhere mentioned, or, did it just not get reported yet again?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_el_pr/palin_2
okobserver
Posted September 15, 2008 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
Mom did you and I see the same interview and did you read the actual questions and answers on the transcript that was posted this morning?
She did very well. Even when Gibson tried his ambushes she didn’t flinch actually talked him down more than once. Those were the ones he edited out.
She is impressive and a fast learner.
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Yes I did see the interview and read the transcript. My point here was that McCain people hand-picked Gibson and now they are smearing his reputation because they don’t like the way the interview turned out? Palin did alot of tap dancing around the questions and that is when Gibson redirected her back to answer the questions – which BTW she never did
As far as fast learner goes, is that now the standard we hold candidates to is being a fast learner? Hey, my grand-daugter learns fast too but I don’t want her in the White House!
Right, after he attempted to re-direct and still didn’t get an answer, he moved on to the next question.
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 15, 2008 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
I’ve NEVER seen the WEBlog post 2 Topics per Day Every Day on ANYONE ELSE, until now.
The WE Blog Truly Fears Palin!!!
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Did you ever stop to consider that perhaps it is because the average American never heard of Sarah Palin before 2 weeks ago?
Palin has stated her life is an open book, so let’s take a look and see what she has and has not done.
man- As far as fast learner goes, is that now the standard we hold candidates to is being a fast learner?
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No, the can be a wacko environmentalist, a war hero wannabe or a…………….
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community organizer………….
Kandisue
Posted September 15, 2008 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
You know I love Sarah Palin but I’m starting to get worried now that some of the brighter demon crats are going public with their feelings on Sarah.
“Lindsay Lohan isn’t happy with Republican vice presidential candidate John McCain’s choice of running mate, Sarah Palin.”
How can we counter the homosexual Lohan?
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And you know Lindsay Lohan personally? I don’t give a hoot what some celebrity says about someone nor their sexual lifestyle. But I do worry about you. In all your posts you seem so full of distrust for all people that don’t look like you or don’t think like you.
I am genuinely concerned for your health. I am praying for you Kandisue.
“Lindsay Lohan isn’t happy with Republican vice presidential candidate John McCain’s choice of running mate, Sarah Palin.”
How can we counter the homosexual Lohan?
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Clint Eastwood.
Looks like my being impressed was premature, she did use the bridge…thanks…., lines again today!
Also, the press with her said she spent more time signing autographs than speaking to the group in Co.
And, in the future she’ll do a town hall (with mccain at her side), still avoiding the press traveling with her, and not taking questions from the audience, or anyone else.
That’s your palin update, for all you fans out there.
Just like home eh? bitch enough and………… — biased1
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Is that how it is at your home, biased1? I guess if you’re a man and have a wife and that’s how it is at your house, then you perhaps already know women come in several varieties.
But so do men.
And the men have had a chance and I’m not impressed. I’m sure there is the possibility of electing some women we may wish to UNelect, just as we’ve seen with men. But, I’m sure ready to give women a good long chance. Sounds like change, good change, instead of just being the single largest block of voters — take over the jobs and do them correctly.
You ready, boys?
What does Cindy Lohan and Sarah Palin have in common? Paparazzi, and lipstick.
woops Lindsay Lohan (not a fan of hers either)
lindastinks55- And the men have had a chance and I’m not impressed.
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So let me see if I’ve got this straight, “the men” have created and presided over the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world, and YOU the great and all knowing lindastinks are not impressed, and so, just NOW we need a woman to run it???
There is one rich and powerful nation being run by women I’ve heard of. You may want to check in to….
let’s see its…
no, no don’t tell me….
YES!
it’s in the amazon..
oh no, never mind, thats a MYTHICAL place…..
dream on sister.
mom – I find Kandisue’s obsession with other people’s sex lives to be rather intriguing. I wonder what his/her problem is?
I find it odd that a woman chosen by McSame to be his running mate, finds it necessary to run to her church leader for guidance in this. Freebird had it right, “if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”
But even more so, how will she handle affairs of state, foreign affairs and the daily duties necessary as vice-president? What she’s getting now is basically what anyone entering into a political campaign, whose little known to the public. If she didn’t know she would be dragged across the washboard, then she’s gotta be rather naive or stupid. Either way, she’s proven once again she’s not ready for prime time.
Stick to running a frozen state and handing out earmarks, er, federal funds.
CapA – I have explained but will do so again. Walt Chappell tried to sell a school finance formula to the state of Kansas. As Senator Schodorf chair of the Senate Education Committee. He was not offering it up for free. He also asked for a meeting with the staff doing the Legislative Post Audit. After his meeting he sent them a bill for $600. They told him to take a hike. He called them they did not call him.
You are so blind by the dim bs you are not even able to support a black republican (Kenya Cox) for Senator. She is better educated, she is active in her community, understands the people and the issues that interest them. She would also be in the majority and have a better opportunity to get things done.
But because you are so closed minded you will not even support her (she is the better choice for the senate).
I was not really surprised because you have shown yourself more times than not that you are as dim as the dims you support.
“But even more so, how will she handle affairs of state, foreign affairs and the daily duties necessary as vice-president?”
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You know what? She can’t do worse than bush has done. She certainly can’t beat cheney as worst!
It’s time for females to fix things.
indainks55
Posted September 15, 2008 at 4:30 pm | Permalink
“But even more so, how will she handle affairs of state, foreign affairs and the daily duties necessary as vice-president?”
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You know what? She can’t do worse than bush has done. She certainly can’t beat cheney as worst!
It’s time for females to fix things.
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Plus, she can see Russia from her front door! How could I forget that?
Another attack. Pointless.
The Washington Times on McCain Bipartisanship
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/15/records-show-mccain-more-bipartisan/
“Sen. John McCain’s record of working with Democrats easily outstrips Sen. Barack Obama’s efforts with Republicans, according to an analysis by The Washington Times of their legislative records.
Whether looking at bills they have led on or bills they have signed onto, Mr. McCain has reached across the aisle far more frequently and with more members than Mr. Obama since the latter came to the Senate in 2005.
In fact, by several measures, Mr. McCain has been more likely to team up with Democrats than with members of his own party. Democrats made up 55 percent of his political partners over the last two Congresses, including on the tough issues of campaign finance and global warming. For Mr. Obama, Republicans were only 13 percent of his co-sponsors during his time in the Senate, and he had his biggest bipartisan successes on noncontroversial measures, such as issuing a postage stamp in honor of civil rights icon Rosa Parks.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxiG56M-eU&feature=related
I’m guessing this will be the new National Anthem
I like the comments of one of the poster for the Obama national anthem.
Communist Goals.
REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
COMMUNIST GOALS (a exerpt 45 total)
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations..
20. Infiltrate the press.
Kandipoo,
And this is worse than the republican rewrite of the trinity as Reagan, Bush and Bushllit how?
Oh GAWD! The John Birchers are back??? RED-BAITING!!! WHAHAHAH!
GIve us the Protocols of ZIon next, please!
The victim’s quote of Westbrook Pegler and the fallout from that:
Interest in Pegler was recently revived when Republican Vice-Presidential nominee Sarah Palin quoted him in her acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota. “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity”, she said, a Pegler quote that also appeared in the book “Right From the Beginning” by Pat Buchanan. She did not acknowledge Pegler by name, merely citing ‘a writer’.[2] The speech was written by Matthew Scully, a senior speech writer for George W. Bush.[3]
Following the Palin acceptance speech New York Times columnist Frank Rich provided an analysis of the political significance of quoting Pegler. Mr. Rich noted that “Pegler was a rabid Joe McCarthyite who loathed F.D.R. and Ike and tirelessly advanced the theory that American Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe (“geese,” he called them) were all likely Communists.”[4] He suggested that Palin’s use of a quote from “once powerful right-wing Hearst columnist Westbrook Pegler” was intended to send a subtle but unmistakable signal to far right wing supporters. [5]
About the same speech, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wrote: “Fascist writer Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist who Sarah Palin approvingly quoted in her acceptance speech for the moral superiority of small town values, expressed his fervent hope about my father, Robert F. Kennedy, as he contemplated his own run for the presidency in 1965, that ’some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies.’[6][7] It might be worth asking Governor Palin for a tally of the other favorites from her reading list.”[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbrook_Pegler
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The speech was written by a George W. Bush speech writer? A change we can believe in, right? Yeah, right…
“’some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow flies.”
And the Republics raised a big stink when Hillary reminded us of that a short while back. Hillary was correct – we DO have to be vigilant about such things.
Palin to Charley Gibson regarding Global Warming: “I think you are a cynic, because show me where I have ever said that there’s absolute proof that nothing that man has ever conducted or engaged in has had any effect, or no effect, on climate change.”
Ohh kay . . . “I’m not an Al Gore, doom-and-gloom environmentalist blaming the changes in our climate on human activity,” she told an Alaska newspaper in 2007.
Wow, not even in office yet, and she can lie like a BushCON. You gotta admire the ability to just lie through their teeth without even blinking an eye.
Thanks for proving that you are a liar, Sunflower5.
You said that Walt’s company was making money from working with the State BOE. Now you admit he never made any money.
Not only that, you said that his endorsements were phony. I know for a fact that none of them are fake.
Do you get paid to post scurrilous lies or do you just do it as a hobby?
““Sen. John McCain’s record of working with Democrats easily outstrips Sen. Barack Obama’s efforts with Republicans.”
Boxlock what some of us see as reasonable, rational, and a willingness to work together is exactly why the far left OPPOSED Obama. They could care less about “reaching out”. In fact, I think many liberal posters here will agree that is a negative quality.
They don’t want tuna with good taste.
They want tuna that tastes good.
Palin said today that the financial markets need “some shakin’ up and some fixin’ “.
No further details were offered.
McCain campaign announced Palin will ignore “Troopergate” investigation subpoenas.
Before this she was willing to cooperate fully.
Correction: She won’t “talk”to investigators… we will see what she does if subpoenas come….
You got nothing David.
A minor blip on the radar screen. So what if she told them to fire her X bro-in-law? I mean really.
Say she flat out admitted it? Say she said she did it because the drunk and abusive SOB was threatening her sister.
You got nothing.
CapnAmerica
Posted September 15, 2008 at 8:12 pm | Permalink
“Thanks for proving that you are a liar,”
Hey Capn! Since I’ve been posting on these blogs, you seem fixated on liars. Sorta a cardinal sin for you. Like nic switching.
Is there any truth to Regulars post:
Regular
Posted September 15, 2008 at 10:19 am
Are you nic switching and a liar?
“McCain campaign announced Palin will ignore “Troopergate” investigation subpoenas.”
I will have to look into that one.
I don’t think a subpoena is something you have the CHOICE to ignore.
It always amazes me when I hear the liberals TSK TSK about premarital sex. Come on…you know you did it and either didn’t get caught or aborted the evidence.
Either way it is hypocritical to act shocked about teens having sex when we are teaching the kids how to put a condom on a banana in the sex education classes at school. It is a double sided message. Look at the soft porn on TV that goes for prime time entertainment.
I always thought the democrats were for premarital sex. How did you get so judgemental? Would you like Sarah Palin better if her daughter was a lesbian?
“Would you like Sarah Palin better if her daughter was a lesbian?”
It didn’t help today’s VP any.
LOOK AT THIS THREAD.
Take a deep breath, and go back to the original thread Randy posted.
Are you guys getting petty or what?!?
You got nothing. So you take something her pastor says and build upon it.
Randy: You are no longer a NEWS reporter. You are tabloid trash.
Does the truth hurt?
Hey Randy, when you get home from the Rent A Center meeting tonight be sure to post a comment about how your pal Obama decided it was better for his political career that my nephew stay in harms way than come home in October.
Palin will not talk to investigators (troopergate).
McCain campaign lying about crowd size. Quoting the fire marshal that 23,000 were at an event, the fire marshall says he provided no such number.
You have a politician who says she will cooperate fully but refuses to talk to investigators…
The lipstick is coming off the pig…
Could be worse, could be she tried to leave US troops in harm’s way just to boost her own political career.
What could be worse than that?
Is that treason or just damn near treason?
NYpost article, get there via Drudge or my blog.
The New York Post and Drudge?
Yeah let me know when they post that Bigfoot was abducted by a flying saucer.
“You have a politician who says she will cooperate fully but refuses to talk to investigators…”
Yeah that’s gonna be kinda hard to explain away.
IF they decide to subpoena her, I don’t think Sarah Palin has the option to ignore it.
“The lipstick is coming off the pig”
Is Obama still wearing it? David you are so proud of your post. Please, let’s see you post it again.
But you got nothing.
My my my.
The right is SO in love with their Sarah.
She’s real! She’s down to Earth! She shoots her own food!
Uh huh.
She also had a tanning bed installed in the Alaska Governor’s mansion.
“The governor did have a tanning bed put in the Governor’s Mansion,” Roger Wetherell, chief communications officer of Alaska’s Department of Transportation and Public Facilities, confirmed to this newspaper. “It was done shortly after she took office [in early 2007] and moved into the mansion.”
Real outdoors person that Sarah!
Who Am I?
I am under 45 years old….
I have many children….
I love the outdoors….
I hunt….
I fish….
I am a Republican reformer….
I have taken on the Republican Party establishment….
I have a spot on the national ticket as Vice President with less than two years in the Governor’s office….
Have you ever heard of me before now? ….
Who am I?
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>..….I am Teddy Roosevelt
I guess she can’t leave the beauty pageant mentality behind her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK3Y1KPzW9k
“What’s happened to John McCain?”
P.S. Thanks for repeating my quote! Yer the best!
Tanning beds are nothing new. We don’t have one, but we have friends who do. My impression is they become like treadmills or a sauna, or even spas.
They end up gathering dust. Not expensive anymore.
BlueJay posts:
“She also had a tanning bed installed in the Alaska Governor’s mansion….Real outdoors person that Sarah!”
Ya dumb ass, there is very little sun intensity in Alaska, even in the summer due to the angle the sun strikes the Earth that far north.
Are you a recent graduate of our wonderful public schools BJ?
Teddy Roosevelt would kick your butt for comparing him to Sarah Palin.
Teddy Roosevelt was the man who inspired the Teddy Bear.
This because he refused to shoot a bear that had been brutalized and tied to a tree.
Sarah Palin favors hunting for wolves from airplanes and fought to take the Polar bear off the Endangered species list.
The Democratic Party has a new webpage named “Count the Lies,” which chronicles the falsehoods being spread by the McCain campaign.
See it here:www.mccainpedia.org/index.php/Count_the_Lies
52 and counting.
Interesting style of posting Boxlock. Here’s another example.
After 1980, oil prices began a six-year decline that culminated with a 46 percent price drop in 1986. Foreign oil imports were reduced by 50% from 1977 to 1982.
WHat happened?
This was due to reduced demand and over-production, and caused OPEC to lose its unity. Oil exporters such as Mexico, Nigeria, and Venezuela expanded. The US and Europe got more oil from Prudhoe Bay and the North Sea.
It is so simple, it has been lost in the politics message. Drilling = more oil.
Mrs. Palin has got it easy. Here you go, a heartbeat away from the presidency and all you had to do was say yes to McCain. The Palin roastig is worth the benefits. I don’t feel sorry for Mrs. Palin one bit. No way, no how.
Heh
“The Governor is tanning and cannot be disturbed.”
“Mommy will help you laaater Willow. Mommy is tanning right now.”
What a fake!
Yes like Washington chopping down a tree, Teddy supposedly refused to shoot a bear that had been brutalized and tied to a tree.
Nevertheless, his big game hunting and murdering of “big game” animals is well documented. His trophy room was adorned with the heads of todays endangered species.
I don’t know if this reflects a change in values, or not, but Teddy liked to kill animals, there is no question about that.
A tanning bed? She had a tanning bed installed? Gov Palin did? In the governor’s mansion? In Alaska? Where it is 20 below zero?
And BJ thinks this is significant? Because it proves she is not an outdoorsy person?
Hearty patronizing chuckle…
The Palin legend continues to grow. She is under their skin like scabies.
Grrr.. here it is again in a tasty new, easily clickable format!
http://www.mccainpedia.org/index.php/Count_the_Lies
“I don’t know if this reflects a change in values, or not, but Teddy liked to kill animals, there is no question about that.”
He also founded the nations first National Park.
I say again, Teddy Roosevelt would kick the butt of anyone comparing him to phony Sarah.
Bluejay the term “fake bake” is true. But what you are not understanding is that millions of Americans fake bake these days. Millions. Home ownership of tanning beds is not unusual for the middle class.
I am sure Palin has plenty of bad qualities and doesn’t have the right position on the issues.
But beating her up for tanning is only making you look unfamiliar with what’s happening in the country around you. Look at the number of tanning salons nationally. Look at tanning bed sales. I don’t want to say you are out of touch, but maybe you are becoming old enough to be called old fashioned, yes?
WASILLA, Alaska — Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal.
So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency.
-NY Times
BlueJay
The right is SO in love with their Sarah.
She’s real! She’s down to Earth! She shoots her own food!
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Finally you said something I can agree with.
The RIGHT loves her.
I can’t wait to pull that lever for Sarah Palin.
Any news on obama’s terrorists friends that hate America? Or why the anti American media is not telling the masses the truth?
Obama finally told the truth – ” My muslim faith”
We know her better every day.
Too bad on John McCain he can’t figure out the internet. He might have vetted his choice better.
Instead of us bloggers doing it.
I wonder what OTHER uninformed, rash choices he might make?
What ELSE will we find out about Sarah?
Boob job?
“Teddy Roosevelt would kick your butt for comparing him to Sarah Palin.
Teddy Roosevelt was the man who inspired the Teddy Bear.”
BlueJay,
Teddy Roosevelt would love and respect a woman like Sarah Palin…and would love to go hunting with her and her husband as well.
I can understand your respect for President Roosevelt though…needing to sleep with your Teddy Bear every night like I’m sure you do. I’m sure you are grateful to him for what he had to do with that security you so need.
If Palin advocated hunting wolves from airplanes I am sure it is for the same reason our Kansas governor goes along with shooting hogs from airplanes….because they are destructive and a harm to the agricultural economy.
BlueJay, I really don’t want to dislike your opinions so much, but you make it so unavoidable.
Bluejay I fear you really have no idea what a dead president would have done or would do.
Which national park did Teddy found first?
“On December 18, 1871, a bill was introduced simultaneously in the Senate, by Senator S.C. Pomeroy of Kansas, and in the House of Representatives, by Congressman W.H. Claggett of Montana, for the establishment of a park at the headwaters of the Yellowstone River. The bill was approved by a comfortable margin in the Senate on January 30, 1872, and by the House on February 27.
On March 1, President Grant signed the bill into law, establishing the Yellowstone region as a public park and setting a major conservation precedent. The Nation had its first national park; an area of exceptional beauty was set aside for the enjoyment of generations to come, and a tradition of preserving similar areas was established.”
Theodore Roosevelt was our 26th President. He served from September 14, 1901 to March 4, 1909.
“. But what you are not understanding is that millions of Americans fake bake these days. Millions. Home ownership of tanning beds is not unusual for the middle class.”
Got a link?
“Tanning beds can cost up to $35,000 to install in a home — not including parts, Alaska-based Color Me Tan manager Erin Weise told the Narco News. Weise added, “I don’t think it’s normal for people to have a tanning bed in their house. It’s expensive.”
Maybe Sarah uses it like a vampire uses a coffin?
Heehee… he’s not a Muslim.. you silly goose! Why do you hate Hawaiians?
Now for something completely different:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOrc37wNUqU
dionysus
Posted September 15, 2008 at 9:35 pm | Permalink
Interesting style of posting Boxlock. Here’s another example.
After 1980, oil prices began a six-year decline that culminated with a 46 percent price drop in 1986. Foreign oil imports were reduced by 50% from 1977 to 1982.
dionysus, what post of mine are you referring to.
Sorry, I have been distracted, healthily, buy my Ham radio, and have not been paying much attention to the blog, it is secondary for the most part.
Thanks,
DavidB
So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency.
-NY Times
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I think the “-NY Times” said all I need to know about this statement.
Think back does anybody recall the last time the Times told the truth without twisting it?
Besides even if this was true it would mean nothing. Most people have friends who they think are pretty sharp and are qualified to do more than they are currently doing.
If this was true why don’t they point out what a horrible job this person is doing? They don’t want to tell you that part because it might make Sarah look like she knows what she it doing.
Demon crats = the party of the Immoral.
“Theodore Roosevelt, the noted conservation president, had an impact on the national park system extending well beyond his term in office. As chief executive from 1901 to 1909, he signed legislation establishing five national parks: Crater Lake, Oregon; Wind Cave, South Dakota; Sullys Hill, North Dakota (later redesignated a game preserve); Mesa Verde, Colorado; and Platt, Oklahoma (now part of Chickasaw National Recreation Area). Another Roosevelt enactment had a broader effect, however: the Antiquities Act of June 8, 1906. While not creating a single park itself, the Antiquities Act enabled Roosevelt and his successors to proclaim ãhistoric landmarks, historic or prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interestä in federal ownership as national monuments.
Roosevelt did not hesitate to take advantage of this new executive authority. By the end of 1906 he had proclaimed four national monuments: Devils Tower, Wyoming, on September 24 and El Morro, New Mexico, Montezuma Castle, Arizona, and Petrified Forest, Arizona, together on December 8. He was also prepared to interpret the authority expansively, protecting a large portion of the Grand Canyon as a national monument in 1908. By the end of his term he had reserved six predominantly cultural areas and twelve predominantly natural areas in this manner. Half the total were initially administered by the Agriculture Department and were later transferred to Interior Department jurisdiction.”
Are you enjoying me smacking you around Dino?
Or would you care for more?
That’s ‘by’, not ‘buy’ in the last post.
Unnecessary clarification I realize but remember I am dealing with people like BJ.
Teddy Roosevelt left the Republican party boxy.
His reasons for doing so were much the same as mine.
I’m sorry BlueJay, I wasn’t trying to smack anyone around. I was just pointing out as nicely as I could something you posted which was not factual.
I was referring to your post:
BlueJay
Posted September 15, 2008 at 9:42 pm | Permalink
“He also founded the nations first National Park.”
As nicely as I could, I pointed out that he did not “founded the nations first National Park.”
President Grant founded our first national park almost thirty years before Teddy was in office.
I apologize if you thought I was attacking you.
That certainly was not my intent.
BlueJay,
I don’t know why T.R. left the Republican Party, if he even did so…but I know why you ‘claim’ to.
You want to be a parasite on working people.
Again, sorry…I calls um as I see’s um.
dionysus, Posted September 15, 2008 at 9:35 pm |
“Interesting style of posting Boxlock. Here’s another example.”
‘dionysus’,
I still don’t know what post of mine you were referring to above.
Can you clarify?
Thanks,
Well Boxlock at 9:27 you compared Sarah Palin to Teddy Roosevelt.
And NOW you admit to ignorance as to Teddy Roosevelt?
Teddy Roosevelt also favored what you would call the “Death tax”.
Sarah Palin would be against that.
For your education in between making uninformed/lying posts, Teddy Roosevelt left the GOP for the Bull Moose party.
I just want to remind the cons the attacks on Clinton B, Clinton H, Clinton, C, and Kerry- and now you’re all whining because we’re taking your playbook.
Where was your outrage when Rove boy was playing your cards?
You can’t cancel your subscription to the Eagle- you’ve still got Values Boy AND Rhonda Holman.
Got this from an old clergy friend in NY State… IF TRUE, this could blow the Palin “integrity” out of the water… I cannot find any “factcheck” or snopes on it as of yet…. So, not sure of the authenticity…
http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=WdBJd9b9i8A
“Again, sorry…I calls um as I see’s um.”
And as you have shown us here Boxlock, you’re not terribly bright.
The victim is indeed a victim, women’s words on Palin:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge/
From what I hear from my sister-in-law who lives in Alaska, there is a big group there who don’t like Palin very much. See above link. Night all.
BJ,
I don’t admit to ignorance to Teddy Roosevelt in general, I admit lack of knowledge of the details of his split with the Republican Party in the presidential election of 1912. The Bull Moose party was formed by Theodore Roosevelt when he lost the Republican nomination to William Howard Taft and pulled his delegates out of the convention.
And just how far did that go. Uh…it’s not even in most history books, though that is a fault of the public education folks I imagine.
By the way BJ, just how far did the Bull Moose Party get…..? Can you point me to a Bull Moose Party Candidate today, or ever…since T.D.?
“I don’t admit to ignorance to Teddy Roosevelt in general, ”
Sure you do. You just are not honest about it. YOU wanted to take a loved historical figure and compare Sarah Palin to him. You just didn’t do your homework first.
Kinda like John McCain when he chose lil Sarah?
I AM pleased that I have encouraged you to use the google and better inform yourself boxlock.
Political_mama Posted September 15, 2008 at 10:15 pm.
“You can’t cancel your subscription to the Eagle- you’ve still got Values Boy AND Rhonda Holman.”
Well, I did! Cancel my subscription that is, and after so, so many years. But I do so with some regret. I do like Rhonda…she is certainly somewhat left of me but a really nice person and I truly like her. She is at least willing to talk and editorialize fairly. Not so that socialist Randy Scholfield, the communist.
“From what I hear from my sister-in-law who lives in Alaska, there is a big group there who don’t like Palin very much.”
Frankly, who the heck cares “from what you hear”, uh…”sister-in-law’ thinks.
Come on StevenEDavis you are capable of better than that.
OR….ARE YOU???
“Not so that socialist Randy Scholfield, the communist.”
Very unfortunate words, there Boxlock. Remember the First ammendment? I doubt if you do.
I have heard that Randy may be leaving soon and I personally feel this will be a huge loss for Wichita and Kansas.
Wish Randy and his family the very best…
StevenEDavis,
Thank you for the link, it’s a good read.
‘Alaska Women Reject Palin’ Rally is HUGE!‘
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge/
“The organizers had someone walk the rally with a counter, and they clicked off well over 1400 people (not including the 90 counter-demonstrators).”
See my next post, Boxlock. I have tried to understand your views; you have ridiculed mine, I guess I need to blunt with you.
I have three problems with talking to you staight:
1) I don’t think you will understand
2) I don’t want to insult you, unnecessarily
3) Thinking about how to convey reasonable info to you is getting to be hard work. More than the effort for Ksgerm. That is really sad, man…
Boxlock post: “I don’t admit to ignorance to Teddy Roosevelt in general, ”
BJ posts:
“Sure you do. You just are not honest about it. YOU wanted to take a loved historical figure and compare Sarah Palin to him. You just didn’t do your homework first.”
BJ, I am only interested in what these folks did for the U.S. that contributed.
Teddy Roosevelt did a lot, a very very lot…but when it was his time to go he got ego-maniacal to a degree and tried to start his own party…it failed. Again, how many ‘Bull Moose Party’ folks do you recall, case rested.
The Bull Moose party failed, just as the DimLibs will in this election.
I am not as optimistic that the DimLibs will go away though…they will have to be systematically minimized for the country to move forward.
“BJ, I am only interested in what these folks did for the U.S. that contributed.
Teddy Roosevelt did a lot, a very very lot…but when it was his time to go he got ego-maniacal to a degree and tried to start his own party…it failed.”
a very very lot?
Ok.
And the rest of your post is based on me educating you. Thank me. Even if your opinion is based on what you could read in only the last few minutes.
Read more. To compare Sarah Palin with Teddy Roosevelt is insulting to TR.
Well, it is getting late and I do have to go to bed. I feel like (maybe inaccurately) that I have made an effort as a flaming Lib to understand the positions of BoxLock. I do not think that effort has been reciprocated, but that is okay, I guess.
Our next election will be the most important we’ve had yet for this very young century. I will do what I have to do, I suspect Mr. Boxlock will do what he has to do. I hope I win, and he loses. We will see…
“I have heard that Randy may be leaving soon and I personally feel this will be a huge loss for Wichita and Kansas.”
Steven, you have got to be kidding!!!! Randy leaving Wichita and the Eagle? If that happens I will immediately restart my subscription to the print version of the paper, and tell them why.
They called me to ask why I was canceling. I was absolutely explicit that it was mostly a result of Scholfield’s editorials.
You have made me so happy, and right before bedtime.
I wish him personally the best of luck with his career and family, but good riddance from a local editorial stance.
In understand you last post of 10:56 pm, thank you for the comments, I think they are sincere and all I can say is ‘ditto’.
There will be a big party following Scholfield’s departure.
That’s ‘I understand’ not ‘In understand’ above.
I hope you could get that Steven.
Good night…I hope you sleep peacefully, and I sincerely mean it.
I heard Randy is going to be the Editor for the Wabaunsee County Signal-Enterprise in Alma.
Big step up for him.
Congratulations.
Good for Randy.
Who WOULDN’T get out of this hole of a state if they could?
My understanding is Randy will be doing his part to turn Colorado blue.
His talents are wasted here in this feudal duchy.
Imagine a White House with a tanning bed.
“General, the President cannot be disturbed. She is tanning!”
General — The President cannot be disturbed… it is the wrong week of the month — She is “tanning” /sarcasm off
Don’t bother Bill now, he’s busy smoking.
But… but… Bill was at least smoking a “cigar”
Say EAGLE, can we get ANOTHER Topic on Sarah tomorrow?
Please!
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 15, 2008 at 11:19 pm | Permalink
I heard Randy is going to be the Editor for the Wabaunsee County Signal-Enterprise in Alma.
Big step up for him.
Congratulations.
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As usual retard, you are completely wrong. Big surprise there!
Thanks, Boxlock. Going to bed now…
Hey, boxlock, can we meet for lunch sometime. I will pay; betting I make more than you.
BlueJay
chy.
Imagine a White House with a tanning bed.
“General, the President cannot be disturbed. She is tanning!”
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It could be alot worse -
Or obama is praying to allah so don’t bother telling him Iran is attacking.
obama – “my muslm faith”
Box, so you don’t mind the opinions being written that agree with your view, but anyone left of you is to be fired and a communist? What an American you are *Not*.
You’re entitled to an opinion- but others aren’t and therefore you are a hypocrite. You make an excellent republican. Rights are for you but not for anyone else.
THIS IS AN OPINION PAGE- get over it.
Kandi,
You are beyond belief. Bet your last name is Phelps
Regular-er- Kandi-
You know that is a lie and yet you keep on telling it, then you’ll have a fit if we play your little game back on you.
It might be- they have been known to post here.
Pmom,
I was of the impression that every time Kandi pposted she was in the midst of a fit
Quick observations:
Anyone who thinks that Rick Warren’s statement was an “inappropriate” divulging of something confidential that Sarah Palin told him is completely deluded. Sarah Palin went to Rick Warren because he was public. What this means is that Rick Warren participated in the McCain Campaign’s cynical use “Sarah to attack the media to poison the well” campaign. Rick Warren was once thought to be a guy who was trying to be “above the fray” and to display a kinder and gentler evangelicism. Now he is revealing himself to be another Christian Right hack (he has already made some rather horrifying comments about “atheists” in the wake of his town hall meetings). Maybe his words are generally kinder and gentler than those of a Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, or (locally) Terry Fox, but he has now injected himself in partisan politics, basically sneaking in an endorsement of the McCain/Palin ticket without openly making an endorsement.
As for why there are so many Palin stories and topics on this board, it’s the same reason why there were so many Obama topics. Palin has been the new lightning rod for attention. The McCain campaign loves it.
As for the reasons why the WEBlog has so many Palin topics on this board? Those right wingers who claim it’s to “bash Palin” are thick if they are sincere. This post, for example? On this thread?
It’s reason number 312. That’s it. Pure and simple.
BTW, I hate to say this, but this campaign so far is living down to Ksfarmgrrl’s most cynical expectations.
AmWay–
If Regular posted it, there’s no truth to it, for there’s no truth in him.
Agnatha… heheheheh!
I wish I was wrong in my cynicism. I wish it were misplaced. I wish… things were different.
But they are not.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Palin-Bridge-to-Wasilla.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
September 16, 2008
Palin supports $600 million ‘other’ bridge project
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 6:58 a.m. ET
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Gov. Sarah Palin may eventually have said ”no thanks” to a federally funded Bridge to Nowhere.
But a bridge to her hometown of Wasilla, that’s a different story.
A $600 million bridge and highway project to link Alaska’s largest city to Palin’s town of 7,000 residents is moving full speed ahead, despite concerns the bridge could worsen some commuting and threaten a population of beluga whales.
Local officials already have spent $42 million on plans to route traffic across the Knik Arm inlet, a narrow finger of water extending roughly 25 miles northeast of Anchorage toward Wasilla. The proposal exists thanks to an earmark request by Republican Rep. Don Young, whose son-in-law has a small stake in property near the bridge’s proposed western span.
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Wow. Good thing Palin doesn’t believe in earmarks like McCain said she didn’t.
Just think of how much she’d cost us taxpayers if she did believe in earmarks . . .