Open thread 9/9

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  1. Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    Finding facts to support the irrefutable fact of evolution is no problem.

    Long-held Assumptions Of Flightless Bird Evolution Challenged By New Research

    ScienceDaily (Sep. 7, 2008) — Large flightless birds of the southern continents – African ostriches, Australian emus and cassowaries, South American rheas and the New Zealand kiwi – do not share a common flightless ancestor as once believed.

    Instead, each species individually lost its flight after diverging from ancestors that did have the ability to fly, according to new research conducted in part by University of Florida zoology professor Edward Braun.

    The new research, which appears this week in the online edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, has several important implications.

    First, it means some ratites, like the emus, are much more closely related to their airborne cousins, the tinamous, than they are to other ratites, Braun said.

    More at:
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080903172152.htm

  2. HLP
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    Brookings Institute Trips over Climate Science

    In the most recent edition of its influential ScareWatch series, the Science and Public Policy Institute questions whether the Brookings Institute is familiar with basic geography, to say nothing of climate science.

    Says SPPI President, Robert Ferguson, “In an April 28 Washington Post opinion editorial worthy of a London tabloid, the President of Brookings and a resident policy wonk blamed Americans for the approaching reputed climate cataclysm, and listed out specific camp-fire apocalyptics – including the fanciful notion that the land-locked African nation of Mali will sink beneath the seas unless the American economy is shut down within the next seven years.”

    The co-authors, who are currently working with Stanford University on a “global governance” project, whatever that may be, recite a well-worn litany about the “momentous political challenge” faced by the next US President because of warmer weather.

    They say greenhouse gases are warming the Earth; that it will warm by more than 4.5 F by as soon as 2050, causing “vast regions” to “slide towards being uninhabitable”; that arable land will turn into desert; that the sea will rise to flood coastal areas from Manhattan and Florida to Bangladesh, St. Petersburg, and Mali; that the Gulf Stream will be altered; that Nevada will have no water at all; that cap-`n’-trade, windmills, solar panels, biofuels, and carbon-capture are the answer to this “existential threat to civilization”; and that Americans are guilty because the United States emits four times as much carbon per head as the Chinese and 12 times as much as the Indians. SPPI examines each scare in turn. A few examples include:

    “The planet will warm by 4.5 F by mid-century”: “Here, the authors are predicting that temperatures over the next 40 years will rise by 0.1 F per year. Temperature has been falling throughout the past seven years, so this forecast is already looking over-ambitious. In fact, temperature rose by only 1 F between 1907 and 2007, a rate of just 0.01 F per year. There is no credible scientific evidence to the effect that this long-run warming rate, which began 300 years ago and shows absolutely no sign of increasing despite the extra carbon dioxide in the air, will suddenly accelerate tenfold. Forecasts of this kind are scaremongering plain and simple, and are no longer credible in the least degree.

    “Arable land will turn into desert”: “It will do no such thing. By the Clausius-Clapeyron relation, of which the Brookings Institute has perhaps not yet heard, in warmer weather the space occupied by the atmosphere is capable of carrying near-exponentially more water vapor than in colder weather. This relation establishes scientifically what has long been observed: that, in general, warmer weather is wetter weather.”

    “Cap-`n’-trade will Save The Planet”: “Not that the planet needs saving: carbon dioxide concentrations were 20 times today’s level back in the Cambrian era, and temperatures were only 12 F above today’s. The planet survived just fine. The notion that emissions trading will make the slightest useful contribution to the future evolution of the Earth’s climate is as absurd scientifically as it is economically. Transferring Western jobs and carbon emissions to China and India, which will be the direct result of any emissions-trading program, will actually increase the planet’s carbon footprint. Also, carbon trading, which arbitrarily favors some industries at others’ expense, is nothing more than a system of Socialist rationing under the pietistic guise of Saving The Planet.”

  3. Freebird1971
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    Good morning Hank,
    Fill me in on Woofstock. If it’s at the county park it is close to where my my mother lives and I get over there often to check on her. Is it a thing you would want to bring a small child to(19 months)?

  4. HLP
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    Good morning Freebird!

    It’s at Sedgwick County Park near the Zoo.

    A lot of dogs. I think it would be OK to bring a child, just be careful. A 19 month old child is at the same level as most of the dogs and you really need to be careful, some of the dog owners aren’t.

    Last year there were a lot of children there, as many kids as there were dogs! A lot of venders, lot of activities, band, etc.

    John Mnannenbach and I will be doing herding instinct testing of any dog that shows up and the Wichita Kennel Club will be there with a booth.

    All proceeds go to the Humane Society.

  5. Freebird1971
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    Have to keep an eye out for when it is and maybe bring the grandson, have the chance to meet you,and see if you are as evil as some here say.

  6. Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    Not making sure that the Brookings Institute will be around for today’s. 5 F to worry about. 5 F has to do is to set up Stanford University to Florida.

  7. annie_moose
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    Why the Government had to take over fannie and freddie mac

    snip

    http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney09082008.html

    When you look at the balance sheet of U.S. assets available for foreign central banks to buy with the $2.5 to $3.5 trillion of surplus dollars they hold, real estate is the only asset category large enough to absorb the balance-of-payments outflows that U.S. military spending, foreign trade and investment-capital flight are throwing off. When the U.S. military spends money abroad to fight the New Cold War, these dollars are recycled increasingly into U.S. mortgage-backed securities, because there is no other market large enough to absorb the sums involved. Remember, we do not permit foreigners – especially Asians – to buy high-tech, “national security” or key infrastructure. The government would prefer to see them buy harmless real estate trophies such as Rockefeller Center, or minority shares in banks with negative equity such as Citibank shares sold to the Saudis and Bahrainis.

    But there is a limit on how nakedly the U.S. Government can exploit foreign central banks. It does need to keep dollar recycling going, in order to prevent a sharp dollar depreciation. The Treasury therefore has given informal assurances to foreign governments that they will guarantee at least the dollar value of the money their central banks are recycling. (These governments still will lose as the dollar plunges against hard currencies – just about every currency except the dollar these days.) A failure to provide investment guarantees to foreigners would thwart the continuation of U.S. overseas military spending! And once foreigners are bailed out, the Treasury has to bail out domestic American investors as well, simply for political reasons.

  8. HLP
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    I’ll be back with the sheep. I’m pretty evil, I’ll shake your hand but I won’t look you in the eye.

    First Saturday in October, the 4th.

  9. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    “All proceeds go to the Humane Society” — wefu

    Yet they are against humane societies for humans.

  10. Raptor
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    How do test herding instinct? sounds fascinating..makes me wonder how my Corgi would do? what is involved?

  11. Raptor
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    typo…how do YOU test herding instinct?

  12. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Raptor
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:50 am | Permalink
    typo…how do YOU test herding instinct?
    —–

    With a Herd-O-Meter….duh.

  13. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    What a shame, women apparently are shallow enought to vote for mccain because he named a token woman as v.p. I expected more

  14. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Republicans are renowned for their herding instinct.

  15. Raptor
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    And, phantom, 90% of blacks are voting for Obama…because he is black. Shallow minds are not limited to one party, are they?

  16. Political_mama
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    I’m disturbed by both. I would hope that we could move past that.

    Perhaps after we do elect our first black, our first woman- and we have more equal representation in government- the inequality issue will die down. It never will as long as groups are underrepresented.

  17. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    How do test herding instinct? sounds fascinating..makes me wonder how my Corgi would do? what is involved? — wefu

    Get a cat

  18. biased1
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:35 am | Permalink
    What a shame, women apparently are shallow enought to vote for mccain because he named a token woman as v.p. I expected more
    ——————-
    The “white women” switch doesn’t surprise me.
    What surprises me is that a black woman would vote for a black man.

  19. Mr_Kia
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    Political_mama
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink
    I’m disturbed by both. I would hope that we could move past that.

    Perhaps after we do elect our first black, our first woman- and we have more equal representation in government- the inequality issue will die down. It never will as long as groups are underrepresented.
    ————————————————–

    This is typical Liberal mindset. It’s ALL about the color of your skin or your genitalia.
    Republicans its about WHO you are, what your beliefs are.

  20. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/us/politics/14campaign.html?fta=y

    This should debunk some of the Obama earmark lies the wefus are telling.

    Now, why don’t the menopausal Pentecostal and McCocaine release theirs?

  21. Predestined
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Republicans its about WHO you are, what your beliefs are.

    If that was true, Sarah Palin would be available to the press for questioning.

    Or is it that she isn’t yet up to snuff on the issues?

    Your choice.

  22. SolDevVB
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    It never will as long as groups are underrepresented.

    If you continue to label people into groups, you will never have equality. Aren’t we supposed to be colorblind? If so, why do you keep hammering ‘Groups’?

  23. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    LMAO!

    A Joe Biden interview.

    http://basilsblog.net/2008/08/23/the-joe-biden-interview/

  24. HLP
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Herding instinct tests.

    Most national herding dog clubs and the AKC have procedures and requirements for herding insinct tests. AKC is pretty general whereas the individual club’s tests are somewhat breed specific.

    At Woofstock we do any dog, doesn’t have to be a herding dog breed. I look for interest, confidence and bidability when the dog is exposed to the stock.

    Corgis do quite well. Very confident little dogs and willing to work for you.

  25. HLP
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    Oh, and my portable ‘Herd-O-Meter’ helps!

  26. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    Famous Joe Biden quotes:

    Referring to Senator Obama:
    “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”

    Video with Senator Biden describing Senator Obama as not being ready to be President and praising John McCain as being worthy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVUPqoowf8

  27. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Yes that was rich, the public has no clue about palin’s beliefs or policy position except what they’ve been able to dig up on their own. They are making their choice on the basis of one speech, delivered over and over, with the same inflections, and pauses.

  28. biased1
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Regular, I wish you would stop bombarding the opposition with facts.

    It’s about “feelings”

  29. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    I FEEL like Biden is a second fiddle jackass to a race hustler.

  30. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    “This campaign can’t be about issues!“–

    The Campaign Manager for John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term)

  31. avtolle
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Since when is a presidential campaign really about “issues”, regardless of what I or others might prefer? Isn’t such a campaign almost always about voting for the candidate with whom the voter is more comfortable?

    It seems to me that if presidential campaigns (or campaigns for almost, if not all, other elective offices) were really about issues, the true “negative campaigns” would not succeed. That these do succeed is a testament, IMHO, to the fact that, notwithstanding protestations to the contrary, issues are not important to the voters.

  32. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    That has been the undoing of our country. Whether it is in the business world or politics, issues (substance) has always taken a back seat to personality (perceptions).

  33. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Interesting trivia:

    Campaign slogans for Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and 1864:

    1860: “Vote yourself a farm”, and the other one for the campaign in 1864 was “Don’t swap your horses in the middle of the stream.”

  34. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    I am reposting in three separate posts due to “awaiting moderation,” which I suspect is because I tried to post three links all at once.
    ————

    One area that should be an issue are the tax plans of the candidates of the two major parties. Here are three of many easily read charts and graphs and explanations showing what effect the tax plans of both McCain and Obama would have on individual tax payers. If these sources don’t please you, there are many others. I looked at dozens and they all show similar numbers.

    http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm

  35. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    And, the second one:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html

  36. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Finally, the third.

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/06/comparison-of-t.html

  37. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    And yet Ms. Inks, it’s easy to see that most Bush supporters aren’t rich. It can only be insanity. They are energized because they hate us and Palin personifies that hatred. Remember the Republican convention roar; not cheers, but the call of a lynch mob. The Pukes have harnessed hate, and hate wipes out thought. I don’t know how they did it, I don’t want to know, but that they could do so is a pretty sad commentary on the human race. It is amazing; what they are bellowing for is more breaks for the rich, and more of the same for themselves. Primaeval, guttural, spittle spewing ignorance of everything, and murderous reaction if informed otherwise. Somehow it is the Democrats fault that they can’t make their mortgage payments; it’s the Democrats fault that they can’t afford gasoline; it’s the Democrats fault that they can’t feel good about murder in Iraq and increasingly in Afghanistan, it’s the Democrats fault that their black souls are mortgaged to the Red Chinese, and it’s the Democrats fault that they are miserable.

    However, unlike most of you, though I hope with all my heart for an Obama victory, if only by gaining it we could at last remove the stake of racism which runs through the American heart, I will not be disappointed or disheartened by a Palin/McCocaine victory. In fact, if that is the country’s fate, I can’t wait, because no matter what happens, it’s going to be a hoot.. Can you imagine Palin on the world stage. The whole damned world may die laughing.

  38. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    The Ground Game
    The campaigns have already begun fighting over ballots and rules for voter registration.

    This presidential election—like the ones in 2000 and 2004—will be won on the ground in a few swing states. So forget the movements in the Gallup daily tracking poll or the Intrade political market. You don’t even need to focus on the electoral-college maps at Pollster.com or Electoral-Vote.com. The 2008 election may well be determined by some of the legal and election administration skirmishes going on now in several key states. Here’s a quick rundown.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2199571/

  39. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    I can’t disagree with you, beber, but there are many who will. There are many who say exactly what you said but opposite. We are divided and nothing good will come of that division.

    Although I too certainly hope for an Obama win, I will be very interested in sitting back to watch a McCain presidency. Could be the final straw, the last nail in the coffin of what the Republican Party has become. I know quite a few people who are of the Grand Ole Party and are waiting because they recognize that what the party is today isn’t what the party was or should be.

  40. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hYbyoBY23xK4yZjEp2AyFMXZ4cSAD932R67O0

    And yet another development. Justice department is recruiting poll watchers. They need to be identified, so voters can beat them to death.

  41. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    What an interesting blog I’ve found!

    http://electionlawblog.org/

  42. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    I forgot that it is the Democrats fault that they descended from apes.

  43. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    #
    beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    I forgot that it is the Democrats fault that they descended from apes.
    ———————-
    That rather large liberally influenced sagittal crest Democrats have, keeps their brain case from expanding. :)

  44. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    All the past days arguments over experience and lack of same may be real interesting if these “ground” tactics prove to be the deciders in the election. Obama has run a monstrous campaign for nearly two years, he has led an organization that proved successful in garnering the nomination from Senator Clinton when everyone thought it couldn’t be done. He is an accomplished attorney, knows of these things legal, which may make all the difference. He chose an experienced running mate who can help immediately in the ground game without cramming, with no learning curve.

    There is experience and there is meaningful experience…

  45. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    All the past days arguments over experience and lack of same may be real interesting if these “ground” tactics prove to be the deciders in the election. Obama has run a monstrous campaign for nearly two years, he has led an organization that proved successful in garnering the nomination from Senator Clinton when everyone thought it couldn’t be done. He is an accomplished attorney, knows of these things legal, which may make all the difference. He chose an experienced running mate who can help immediately in the ground game without cramming, with no learning curve.

    There is experience and there is meaningful experience
    ——————
    Yeah, Obama has run his campaign all by himself, designed it, supervises everyone from pot licker to door man.

    Meaningful experience in running a campaign means he has meaningful experience as a campaign organizer, nothing else.

  46. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Yes Ms. Inks, and ask the CEOs of Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae about “executive experience.” I’ll bet they still get multi-million dollar golden parachutes.

  47. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    July Pending Home Sales Fall More Than Expected- AP Oil Dips as Ike Weakens, OPEC Mulls Holding Steady- AP Wall Street Retreats as Financials Weaken- AP Budget Deficit Nears Record Under Latest Estimates- AP McDonald’s Same-Store Sales Rise 8.5 Percent- Reuters U.S. Hires Lawyer for Google/Yahoo Inquiry- Reuters Reynolds American to Cut 570 Jobs, Realign Brands- AP Apple Expected to Unveil New iPods Today- AP Apple, Google Suffer from Hedge Fund Woes, Fear of High — todays Yahoo finance headlines.

  48. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    obama just kicked Bush’s but on Iraq, and slipped the Iraq noose around mccain’s neck.
    Mccain getting ready to make a response, I’m sure it’ll be inept and include all of his talking points about ‘great success’.

  49. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    That is a possiblity about the golden parachutes, Obama said the bill he supported allows for withholding of golden parachutes for the executives and he strongly supports they don’t get any.

  50. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    and winning

    I used to wonder what had been won, I don’t any longer. Whatever winning means I want someone / anyone to take all the credit they need and bring the troops home.

  51. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Just heard a school had a drill where an armed gunman busted into a library where the teachers were and started firing blanks, the teachers weren’t told it was a drill. Can you imagine if HLP or Nathan were subbing there at that time?

  52. CapnAmerica
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088_pf.html

    RepubliCONs, file this under “Oh, Sh!t”:

    Palin Billed State for Nights Spent at Home
    Taxpayers Also Funded Family’s Travel

    By James V. Grimaldi and Karl Vick
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Tuesday, September 9, 2008; A01

    ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a “per diem” allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.

    The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.

    Palin, who earns $125,000 a year, claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, which officials say was permitted because her official “duty station” is Juneau, according to an analysis of her travel documents by The Washington Post.

    The governor’s daughters and husband charged the state $43,490 to travel, and many of the trips were between their house in Wasilla and Juneau, the capital city 600 miles away, the documents show.

  53. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Barack Obama’s former pastor has been cavorting with another man’s wife, whom he romanced while she worked at a church in Dallas run by one of his disciples, according to a report in the New York Post.

    Elizabeth Payne, 37, told the Post that she and Rev. Jeremiah Wright, 67, had a sexual relationship this year and that she was fired from her job when the affair was made public. Payne had been working at Friendship-West Baptist Church as a secretary to the Rev. Frederick Haynes III, a longtime Wright protege.

    “I was involved with Rev. Wright, and that’s why I lost my job and why my husband divorced me,” Payne was quoted saying in Tuesday’s newspaper. She said she has filed a wrongful-dismissal claim with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

  54. HLP
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    #
    Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Just heard a school had a drill where an armed gunman busted into a library where the teachers were and started firing blanks, the teachers weren’t told it was a drill. Can you imagine if HLP or Nathan were subbing there at that time?
    ____________________________________________

    That’s such an incredibly stupid thing to do that I must call bullshit.

    Provide a link or admit the lie.

    If you bust into my home and start firing blanks you better have your affairs in order.

  55. XXX
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Hank, How do mini-pins do with herding instinct? Mine thinks he’s a bird dog because he goes on point. Looks good at it, too. Until he forgets which leg to raise, or tries to raise two legs at the same time.

  56. CapnAmerica
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Man, I wish I could a per diem for eating meals at home.

    That’s a sweet deal.

  57. Heckler
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Capn

    Check your shorts.

  58. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Palin: Government Can Fix Social Ills

    Sarah Palin’s lasting legacy as mayor of the town of Wasilla, Alaska is a gleaming sports complex with an indoor soccer field, running track and of course, a hockey rink.

    To understand what makes the complex so much better than the old rink, all you have to do is sit down. The seats are heated.

    During Palin’s recent convention speech she sharply criticized Senator Barack Obama for wanting to end Bush’s tax cuts. “How are they going to be any better off if taxes go up?”

    But in fact, the way the hockey rink was built was by raising taxes. Palin funded the project by pushing a special referendum that raised the sales tax by 25 percent. City hall records show the referendum was passed by twenty votes.

    CBS News obtained 86 pages of city council documents that show Palin sought to justify the tax increase to fund the sports complex in part because the private sector had not stepped in to fill the gap. She noted the strong support in the community as a reason to move ahead.

    But her most striking argument for raising taxes is one you might not expect from a fiscal conservative. She writes that the rink offers an opportunity for government to stop a social ill like drug abuse or juvenile delinquency before it starts.

    “…as I look at the money that government [spends] on projects, programs, personnel and facilities to ‘fix’ societies ills and I realize that it’s [be]come more politically correct and accepted for government to throw money towards ‘after-the-fact [services]’, instead of preventive measures that a community could take to support and promote…family oriented, positive, constructive activities and lifestyles. Even on the local level we [spend] hundreds of thousands of dollars on our Police Dept., Youth Court, DARE Program, etc… ‘after the fact’ fixes for juvenile problems. We are in a position to help prevent (Palin’s emphasis) the [problems] that we are now forced to pay to attempt to remedy.”

    This approach sounds surprisingly similar to Senator Barack Obama’s philosophies about youth violence and health care spending. Obama’s “Blueprint for Change” bemoans the lack of money spent on preventive health measures, “The nation faces epidemics of obesity and chronic diseases as well as new threats of pandemic flu and bioterrorism. Yet despite all of this less than 4 cents of every health care dollar is spent on prevention and public health.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/08/cbsnews_investigates/main4427776.shtml

  59. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

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    beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Yes Ms. Inks, and ask the CEOs of Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae about “executive experience.” I’ll bet they still get multi-million dollar golden parachutes.
    ========================
    You may not want to go there as Franklin Delano Raines, former Clinton Budget officer and registered Democrat was the CEO of the disastrous Fannie Mae. :D

  60. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Min-pins- Those little fellas can move like greased lightning!

  61. Heckler
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    lind

    “During Palin’s recent convention speech she sharply criticized Senator Barack Obama for wanting to end Bush’s tax cuts. “How are they going to be any better off if taxes go up?”

    But in fact, the way the hockey rink was built was by raising taxes. Palin funded the project by pushing a special referendum that raised the sales tax by 25 percent.”

    They dealt with the issue at the local level. Good on them. Sounds like a good Federalist.

  62. GMC70
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    A few pieces of balony:

    The Pukes have harnessed hate, and hate wipes out thought.

    Not on this blog. The left has a corner on hate. And, uh, beber, don’t you think your cute little pet name for the opposition negates your premise? Duh.

    —–
    Palin’s “scandal” re: billing for “per diem”

    Cripes, the worry on the left over Palin is palpable. This must be today’s talking point from Kos. And as usual, when broke down, it’s balony:

    this is the “scandal:”

    You have to read the article carefully to figure this out, but what the story ultimately reveals is that Palin (a) billed the state for most expenses allowed by law, including per diem when she stayed in her own home (her “duty station” was the state capitol of Juneau) in Wasilla; (b) didn’t bill the state for other expenses, when she could have done so lawfully, such as per diems for her children; and (c) spent a lot less money on expenses than did her predecessor, especially on travel and by ridding herself of the state’s personal chef.

    http://volokh.com/posts/1220936107.shtml

    Yup. That’s a heck of a “scandal.” How dare she actually spend less!

  63. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Fake shooting, real terror

    Teachers unwittingly put through lockdown drill that includes actor with blanks-filled gun.

    PHILLIPSBURG | Teachers dove for cover under tables and some feared for their lives Thursday during an unannounced drill that featured a gunman firing blanks in the Phillipsburg School District.

    Organizers hailed the drill as a success, but some staff members remained shaken Friday.

    “The only reason it was not the scariest day of my life was because it wasn’t real,” said a teacher, who requested anonymity for fear of reprisal.

    The so-called hostile intruder drill was conducted at the Phillipsburg Early Learning Center, where elementary teachers had gathered for a workshop before next week’s opening of school.

    “It was done as means of assessing the security readiness,” he said.

    Bill Merrick, the school district’s security director, said two unannounced drills have occurred before in the district, at both the middle and high schools. Thursday’s drill, which occurred in a new building with which many staff members are unfamiliar, was a success, he said.

    “All the drills of the past have prepared the staff for this,” he said. “I cannot give the teachers enough credit.”

    Teachers not told of drill

    Law enforcement knew the intruder was an actor, but most of the teaching staff was unaware, according to administrators. Following the incident, teachers and others in the building were debriefed and their actions critiqued by drill leaders in the cafeteria. Some teachers were in tears, according to the teacher who spoke about the incident.

    http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/phillipsburg/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1220069114311200.xml&coll=3

  64. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    re: School Shooting Exercise

    Stupid

  65. okobserver
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Hank plan to bring the grandkids to Woofstock. I will have them wear reflective glasses so you can’t give them the evil eye.

    Bo was impressed with you and Dog when he met you earlier. Guess he didn’t look in your eyes.

  66. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Thank God there wasn’t an armed teacher in the building or the snafu would’ve been lethal.
    Still calling b.s. hlp?

  67. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Yes, stupid. I read there is a school board meeting where this “drill” will be discussed. I imagine it will be well attended.

  68. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    “You may not want to go there as Franklin Delano Raines, former Clinton Budget officer and registered Democrat was the CEO of the disastrous Fannie Mae.” — the wefu

    As usual, the wefu misdirects. Mr. Raines left Ms. Mae in 2004.

  69. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Wow. For a while I thought it was Phillipsburg Kansas.

  70. littlejohn
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    “http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/phillipsburg/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1220069114311200.xml&coll=3″

    That is just about the stupidest thing I ever heard of for emergency preparedness.

  71. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Truth being stranger than fiction is proven too true too often.

  72. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    When I googled and found this incident, I also found it is the most recent, not the only.

  73. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Even if the teachers had known ahead of time, what if a c.c. parent had been walking down the hallway and heard the commotion? What would Nathan or Hlp do?

  74. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Maybe the administrator wanted to ‘keep it real’ or some breakdown in communication.

  75. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    It’s not like you can expect teachers and administrators to know anything about providing security.

  76. littlejohn
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    “Maybe the administrator wanted to ‘keep it real’ or some breakdown in communication.”

    Idiots all. Maybe they should set a controlled fire in building to test they system or keep it real?. Every administrator involved, or that bought off on this stupid idea should be fired immediately.

  77. annie_moose
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Republicans its about WHO you are, what your beliefs are.

    ——————————————-

    Republicans making welfare look like work since 1981

  78. kswind
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    At the beginning of April ’08 my son was sent to El Dorado Correctional Facility RDU. After just a few days there he called me and during the call mentioned that his cellmate had enormous zits/boils on the back of his head and side of his neck. During the next phone call from him I learned that the cellmate had sent at least two requests to be taken to the infirmary and these requests had been ignored. So he had begun “popping” these eruptions and the bloody pus shot halfway across the cell. Two days later I learned that the cell mate had finally been taken to the infirmary after my son made a comment to a guard about how gross this guy was. Soon after, someone in a mask, paper suit and bio-hazard bags had come into the cell to remove all personal items belonging to the cellmate and all bedding and pillows from both beds. Then my son was tossed a can of disinfectant spray and some paper towels (no gloves) and told to clean the cell, which he
    did: floor, walls, cots, everything. He later learned the cellmate had MRSA and would not be coming back.

    In mid-May he was transferred to Hutchinson Correctional Facility – East. Since that time my son has had three outbreaks of MRSA which have been treated with the same antibiotic every time. He is currently in the infirmary again, with new places coming out on his skin even while on the antibiotic. This is obviously not the correct medication or the infection would not keep recurring, nor would new places be showing up while still on the antibiotic. The first time he was in the infirmary he was the only one in there; this time there are three others. Apparently the MRSA is spreading, as it will if not properly treated. I offered to pay for the correct antibiotic if the cost was an issue but we were told that that was impossible because not all inmates had the money to pay and they all have to be treated the same.

    I understand the concept of all inmates receiving the same treatment, but I also understand that this infection is spreading because of lack of the proper treatment. These inmates, at least some of them, will be released soon and will carry the MRSA out into the general population which places everyone at risk. Would it not be more ethical as well as more cost-effective to treat the MRSA effectively the first time instead of having repeated treatments of the wrong antibiotic, which is how this became a ‘superbug’ in the first place?

  79. Heckler
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Obama add.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

  80. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    A really good ad Heckler, thanks for sharing.

  81. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    “Nathan or Hlp do?” — Pathom

    Piss their pants.

  82. SolDevVB
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    what is wefu?

  83. okobserver
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    kswind if what you write is factual and I have no reason to doubt it then you should start a grass roots movement to address it. Start from the bottom and keep going until you get results. The governor would of course be the last state official but if this is a health risk for the general population then the center for disease control in Atlanta might have some answers for you.

    If it were my child I would go the limit until I got results.

  84. avtolle
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122088294934209997.html?mod=hps_us_whats_news

    A bit more on the bailout; it appears that the Chinese, among others, were nervous.

  85. okobserver
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink
    Just heard a school had a drill where an armed gunman busted into a library where the teachers were and started firing blanks, the teachers weren’t told it was a drill. Can you imagine if HLP or Nathan were subbing there at that time?

    ——————–
    Hank I certainly agree with you. They better have their wills written if I am armed. Can any school administration be this totally ignorant?

    And to think they draw the big bucks and our teachers are paid much less. What is wrong with this equation?

  86. kswind
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, okobserver. I have sent copies of this letter to the tv stations and to the Eagle but got no response. Also sent a copy to the Reno County Dept. of Health. I was hoping that by posting it here if it inspired some discussion someone at the Eagle might take notice.

  87. SolDevVB
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Wind,

    Letter to the editor? Might at least get it published.

  88. annie_moose
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    republicans we put the “r” in racketeering

    republicans spending your grandkids future today

  89. kswind
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    I did think of that, Sol, but in order to send a letter to the editor you have to provide name and address. I’m willing to do this privately, but would prefer not to do so publicly for personal/professional reasons. I also would prefer not to draw attention directly to my son for fear of the ire of the authorities…

  90. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Wouldn’t the Sedgwick County Health Dept. be someone that should be contacted? Or, maybe the State Health Dept.?

  91. SolDevVB
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    the ire of the authorities

    Good looking out.

  92. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    I would think somoeone with MRSA should be isolated.

  93. lindainks55
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    kswind, I certainly understand your good reasons for wanting to remain anonymous, but there is sometimes less credibility given to the unknown. Tough situation. I would think health departments would keep complaints confidential, or at least, should. have you brought this to the attention of the county sheriff, attorney general, all layers of law enforcement?

  94. SolDevVB
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    republicans spending your grandkids future today

    And of the Democratic Congressmen voting yes on those bills???

  95. Nathaniel
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Beber,

    I would not piss my pants. I have been in a combat zone and I have taken indirect mortar fire before.

    I train around once a month on average with the pistol I carry concealed with.

    If I had been there, I wouldn’t have been carrying concealed. Only one school that I know of allows anyone to carry concealed and even then, only teachers.

    If I had been there, I would have ran to my truck to get my gun. While doing so I would have been making a 911 call.

    More than likely I would have been informed by the operator that it was a drill and even if not I would have approached the “shooter” with caution.

    I am smart enough that I most likely could have determined that it was not a real gun or bullets being fired and would have given verbal commands to stop before I started shooting anyhow.

    Again, several of you choose to take cheap shots at me, a trained Marine who has been to war and someone who teaches Self Defense with a pistol and Marksmanship.

    Your ignorance, not mine.

  96. littlejohn
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Come on SOl,

    You know the Democrats only voted to spend that money because the Republicans MADE them do it.

  97. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    “kswind” –

    There’s nothing keeping you from requesting your name not be published. The paper might not agree to your request, but there’s always the option.

    One of the nuances of “anonymous sources” in journalism is the rock-solid fact that people do know who those sources are. The reporter knows, the editor knows, if it’s a particularly dicey issue the publisher knows.

    People forget that Woodward-Bernstein (obviously) knew who “Deep Throat” was. They got the story by agreeing to keep “Deep Throat’s” identity confidential. As did Ben Bradley, the editor of the Post, who knew Woodward-Bernstein’s sources but agreed (for obvious reasons) to protect their identities from Nixon.

    The reporter to cited “Lucille the waitress” who overheard Governor Moose-Dresser tell her chums, “So Sambo beat the Bitch” after Obama secured the nomination knows who “Lucille the waitress” is. And so does his editor.

    It’s a simple fact that an oppressive political organization such as the Alaskan Republic Party can be pretty vindictive.

    Your kid ended up in El Dorado. So we know he’s not a saint. And convicts are not strangers to expanding the truth.

    But if what you say is true, and it’s important enough to you, get a spine and tell people who might both investigate the issue and protect your anonymity.

  98. Nathaniel
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    I have done several training exercises with blank fire as well.

    I am a trained Range Safety Officer.

    What these officers did was not safe. You don’t do a “surprise” drill with a blank firing weapon like this.

    It is a valid point that someone could mistake this for the real thing.

    The questions mocking my father and I were on point, just not in the right place.

    There are indeed too many unkowns that could happen.

    There are many other ways you can run the same type of exercise without having a gun shooting blanks.

  99. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    “On April 18, 2006 home loan giant Freddie Mac was fined $3.8 million, by far the largest amount ever assessed by the Federal Election Commission, as a result of illegal campaign contributions. Much of the illegal fund raising benefited members of the House Financial Services Committee, a panel whose decisions can affect Freddie Mac. Notably, Freddie Mac held more than 40 fundraisers for House Financial Services Chairman Michael Oxley, R-Ohio.” — Wikipedia

  100. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    kswind: drop a note to me at anassel@hasink.com and I will send you the name of someone who might help.

  101. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    “Nathaniel” is back with –

    “…me, a trained Marine who has been to war and someone who teaches Self Defense with a pistol and Marksmanship.”

    You’re too modest, “boy.”

    You also are WE Blog’s self-ordained judge of who is and who isn’t a “Christian.”

  102. Nathaniel
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    MonkeyHawk,

    You are the only one putting me on that platform, not I.

  103. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    I personally know of a nurse who contracted mrsa in a hospital setting (as a patient) she is suing the hospital. Might talk to a lawyer also.

  104. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    KS Wind:

    You can receive advice and help here:

    http://www.prisontalk.com/

  105. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Trained officers with years of experience, have shot people in much less intimadating circumstances. Military assault training is nothing like police training. Your trained to kill before you or your buddy get killed, not shout out warnings. Unless your on base and pulling guard duty.

  106. SolDevVB
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    beber,

    what is wefu

  107. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    “I would not piss my pants. I have been in a combat zone and I have taken indirect mortar fire before.
    ” — the wefu

    O.K. I was just being nice.

  108. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    I have noticed that those talking most about courage and judgement are the least likely to possess it.

  109. okobserver
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    MH this post has been debunked by people that know Sarah Palin. Many said this is not something she would have said. It isn’t her style of talking. Many reason to question this ‘unnamed’ waitress.

    If I am a waitress in a cafe frequented by state officials then I am indeed known to someone. Why can’t this be verified by the large number of reporters who have invaded Alaska?

    Could be because it is one of those demo floaters out there to see how many won’t sink. The ‘banned’ book list with books not even published when the question was asked. The name McCain was supposed to call his wife that no one has been able to verify. The baby that was Palins daughters until it wasn’t. The email sent out to dems to flood the internet with ‘Jesus was a mayor, Pontius Pilate was a governor’. The affair that was before it wasn’t. I could go on and on but the dems know the truth of which I write.

    What many have realized yet is that the more they attack the more popular Palin becomes. The woman vote that has shifted to McCain is saying ‘yes women can be successful and good mothers, wifes and family organizers’.

    So just keep bringing on the attacks. You are pushing McCain right into the White House.

  110. okobserver
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Sorry I didn’t get the email and made a mistake: It says ‘Jesus was a community organizer Pontius Pilate was a governor’.

    My error.

  111. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, I meant to say a mindless collective. Pardon me.

    Think of the compound eye of a wasp. And that’s an intentional pun.

  112. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    intimidating

  113. StevenEDavis
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    “So Sambo beat the Bitch”

    That story and more here:

    http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3716.shtml

    The Colter-clone is a gift, I am telling ya.

    They’re keeping a tight muzzle on the pitbull now, but they can’t forever.

  114. kswind
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to those of you who have responded with advice/suggestions. My son is in isolation this time and the last, but not the first time. And I did put my name & address on the letter to the health department. My contact with the news stations and Eagle were by email with the notice that I could be contacted at that email address. Contacting any branch of law enforcement wasn’t something I had thought of after my initial offer to pay for the correct treatment. Perhaps I should reconsider. Thank you all again.

  115. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    sigh: ring.

  116. annie_moose
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    McCain says change is coming

    —————————–

    http://www.lafn.org/politics/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html

  117. SolDevVB
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Shouldn’t the acronym be WBFU then?

  118. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    SED, that article was soooo biased, unbelievable. It was written by-

    Charley James is an American journalist, author and essayist who lives in Toronto. He publishes The Progressive Curmudgeon where this article originally appeared.

  119. biased1
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    beber, are you able to pour piss out of a boot?

  120. GMC70
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    MH –

    “LAProgressive” ain’t Woodward and Bernstein.

    Any real reporters corroborate this secondhand, no source, untracable slur? No? NO?

    How convenient. So you pass around this bit of slop, and pretend that it’s “nuanced journalism.”

    Riiiiiiiight.

    Let me guess – what will be the talking point tomorrow? Palin wears darkface? Clubs baby seals? This is no different that the DKos brownshirts who trotted out the “Palin’s baby was actually Bristol’s” crap. Tell me how this is different than the equally despicable “Obama is a muslim” meme? It’s not, of course. But’s IOKIYAD.

    The fear of Palin on the left is truly palpable. “She must be stopped!” they cry, so the end justifies the means.

    And that’s very slick – slipping this little bit of crap in the middle of doing an ostensibly “good” thing, like giving a bit of actually useful advise to “kswind.” But putting a turk between slices of french bread doesn’t make it less a turd.

    We know you live in the gutter, and you wouldn’t recognize truth – or class – as it steps on your worthless carcass. And you just keep proving it to be true.

  121. okobserver
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    SteveDavis I have a bad habit of researching my own links before I use them and I also research others: These are the topics your source covers.

    Liberal/Progressive

    American Liberal

    Bush Brothers Banana Republic

    Bush Occupation

    The Bush Presidency

    Democrats.US

    Friends of Bill Online

    fringefolk

    George W. Bush Is Shameless

    Let’s Talk Sense

    The Last Laugh

    pinkobuttons,com

    Political Amazon

    Political Diary

    Real People for Real Change

    ROADWomen

    StarrBuzz

    Stop Bush

    WarFolly.com

    Satire

    The Bushiad and the Idyossey

    Dubya’s Dayly Diary

    The Last Laugh

    This was lifted off of your ‘reliable’ source about the unnamed Lucille. Does it sound to you like the kind of site that would be impartial.

    Gotta hit the road.

  122. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    “beber, are you able to pour piss out of a boot?” — the wefu.

    Sorry, I don’t respond individually to the collective, but if I did, I would point out that I could no doubt piss in your boot as you are only 12. Do you have any boots?

  123. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Why aren’t you in school?

  124. Predestined
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    MH,

    Since you don’t know the details of the young man kswind posted about, maybe you should lighten up.

    The story is true.

  125. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Uh oh, this is going to piss the libs off!

    Thomas says Constitution forbids racial preference

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas said Tuesday that African-Americans are better served by colorblind programs than affirmative action.
    Thomas, addressing leaders of historically black colleges, said affirmative action “has become this mantra and there almost has become this secular religiosity about it. I think it almost trumps thinking.”

    A longtime opponent of race-based preferences in hiring and school admissions, Thomas said, “Just from a constitutional standpoint, I think we’re going to run into problems if we say the Constitution says we can consider race sometimes.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/detail.php?wfeed=ap&ch=ap-biz

  126. HLP
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    #
    XXX
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Hank, How do mini-pins do with herding instinct? Mine thinks he’s a bird dog because he goes on point. Looks good at it, too. Until he forgets which leg to raise, or tries to raise two legs at the same time.
    ______________________________________________________

    Min-pins have a big heart. (They’re XXX inside!) Sheep move off intent, not size. You’re Min-pin might do well!

  127. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    oops.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D933CKDG1&show_article=1

  128. gster
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Hank- Do you have any advice to stop a 4 year old Sheltie yapper?

  129. avtolle
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    ANTI, this is one thing that Justice Thomas and I agree upon; that the Constitution does not allow (my version) for the government to give racial preferences. Note that my construct does not preclude private institutions from adopting such policies, nor would it preclude government from using e.g., economic preferences to achieve many of the same goals.

  130. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    avtolle
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:53 pm | Permalink
    ANTI, this is one thing that Justice Thomas and I agree upon; that the Constitution does not allow (my version) for the government to give racial preferences.
    ——
    Exactly. You can’t say that you are against racism and then allow special treatment of one race over another in your laws.

  131. HLP
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    #
    gster
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Hank- Do you have any advice to stop a 4 year old Sheltie yapper?
    __________________________________________________

    no, that’s what Shelties do.

  132. Nathaniel
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Phantom,

    I am not some mindless Marine Robot. I have taken several self defense classes with a pistol and others as well.

    Simply because I am a trained Marine doesn’t mean that I do not understand how to give verbal warnings.

    Besides, I have been trained on the use of force continuum. Many Marines are. Not only do we learn how to assualt, we are trained in how to fight in an urban environment where we sometime have to deal with citizens who may or may not be armed.

    Any type of guard duty, which many Marines will stand, also teaches the use of force continum.

    It is only you liberals here who like to mischaracterize my father and I when it comes to our carrying concealed.

  133. GMC70
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Nathan –

    You might as well talk to the wall. I understand what you’re saying. Most here who can think understand as well. In their heart of hearts, most of those on the left understand as well, they’re just in denial.

    Phantom & Co. are busily jousting with it with the strawman they’ve carefully built. I know, you know, and frankly they know it’s not real. It’s for public consumption. You’ve made your point, and it’s a valid one.

    And yes, that “drill” in the school was one of the dumber things done this young school year. Unfortunately, as the teachers here can probably attest, there seems to be no limit to the stupid things that school administrators can do. . . .

  134. Constitutionalist
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Nate writes:
    “I am not some mindless Marine Robot. I have taken several self defense classes with a pistol and others as well.”

    Come now, Nate, if you have a pistol what do you need a self-defense class for? :)

  135. Nathaniel
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Constitutionalist,

    There are many different types of self defense classes. As I have said, the pistol is one of the most effective and practical means to defending yourself in many situations.

    Simply because you have a pistol doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have some level of ability in understanding in defending yourself without one.

    Some of the classes I have taken are how to defend yourself with a Pistol as well.

  136. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Use of force continum would seemingly indicate if the opponent is shooting a gun, you shoot a gun.

  137. Nathaniel
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Phantom,

    More specifically, that if someone is threatening you with deadly force, you may respond with deadly force.

  138. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI, this is one thing that Justice Thomas and I agree upon; that the Constitution does not allow (my version) for the government to give racial preferences” — avtelle

    Yet Mr. Thomas was given that to replace Mr. Douglas on the court although he had only one year of judicial experience. He was selected to maintain a racial balance. I seriously doubt that he hid his blackness when he applied to law school and a time when universities were trying to address old injustices.

    After 200 years of selecting people because they were white, I can’t see any harm in addressing this injustice by selecting a few qualified people because they are not white.

  139. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    continuum

  140. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    After 200 years of selecting people because they were white, I can’t see any harm in addressing this injustice by selecting a few qualified people because they are not white.
    ——

    Continuing racism is OK for you?

  141. Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    okobserver
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 1:46 pm | Permalink
    Sorry I didn’t get the email and made a mistake: It says ‘Jesus was a community organizer Pontius Pilate was a governor’.
    ========================================

    Hmmmm…. OKOB, you have a problem with that statement?? Jesus WAS a community organizer… Pilate WAS a governor…. Fairly clear on that one…

    Or, if you prefer…. The Book of Acts tells how the Apostles ORGANIZED people to care for the sick, hungry, homeless, etc.
    Community organizers….

    Pilate was still governor…

  142. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    “Continuing racism is OK for you?” — the wefu

    No, justice is o.k. with me.

  143. ANTI
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
    “Continuing racism is OK for you?” — the wefu

    No, justice is o.k. with me.
    ——

    Persecuting people who were not even alive during the injustice is not justice.

  144. parkay
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    From evidence in a Californicatia appeals court case, a Santa Clara County sexual predator impregnated his 13-year-old stepdaughter in 2002 and forced her to commit a post-viable abortion. The pervert then continued to molest her for another seven months until the child’s mother discovered the abuse and contacted police.
    Despite two visits to Planned Parenthood and a surgical abortion at San Francisco General Hospital, no healthcare provider bothered to inform law enforcement, further demonstrating Planned Parenthood’s widespread policies for the criminal abuse of mothers, and particularly minor girls who are statutory rape victims, shielding their rapists from prosecution for the sake of abortion mill profits. This tragic case also stresses the need for states to enforce parental notification and consent laws.
    Cut off all taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood now.
    - – -

    Police are searching for the parents of a newborn boy abandoned at a fire station flagpole in Plymouth, PA Sunday. An anonymous phone call alerted police to the illegal abandonment. Baby Doe, a.k.a. Jack, was found to be in stable condition at Montgomery County Hospital in Norristown when rescued. By Pennsylvania law, a hospital is the only so-called “safe haven” where a newborn can be legally abandoned.

  145. Mary_Caruso
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Bush was a governor…he certainly didn’t make a good president.
    It’s more about intelligence, common sense, dipolmacy, and leadership skills. Bush has none of these qualities…McCain and Palin are also seriously lacking in these areas.

  146. Mary_Caruso
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Please explain how you’re being persecuted, Anti.

  147. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    “Chas” notes –

    ‘Jesus was a community organizer.
    Pontius Pilate was a governor.’

    But could Pontius Pilate dress a moose?

  148. Mary_Caruso
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, dressing a moose is a very important skill to have if you’re going to be working next to the leader of the free world.

  149. Mary_Caruso
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Jesus was a liberal, BTW.

  150. Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Monkey?? I dont think so….

  151. Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    I’m not sure why some folks are sort of poking fun at eating Moose…. It is actually pretty tasty… Better than Coon or Possum by a long shot!! And a Moose Pot Roast is very long on flavor….

    Actually, it is just a small cut above Venison…. Deer steaks anybody??

  152. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    “Chas” –

    I’ve had moose. It’s kinda gamey but a good marinade cuts that and tenderizes.

    I still have problems with the Bullwinkle Guilt, however.

    And I’m intrigued at the skill set it must take to dress a moose. Like, where do you get your supplies, Layne-Bryant?

  153. Regular
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Community Unity Day Kicks Off Saturday

    Date: September 9, 2008
    Contact: LaShonda Porter, Atwater Neighborhood City Hall
    E-mail: LPorter@wichita.gov
    Phone: (316) 303-8017

    The 7th annual Community Unity Day runs from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. on Saturday, Sept. 13 at Atwater Neighborhood City Hall, 2755 E 19th St.

    Activities include a resource fair, variety show, 3-on-3 basketball game and three-point shootout and a gospel music concert. New events include the “Senior Walk,” which is sponsored by the Health and Wellness Coalition; a basketball game featuring City of Wichita staffers versus local journalists; and Radio Disney, which will offer games, entertainment and prizes. Real Men, Real Heroes, a group of local mentors, will be in Kid Zone. The IRS will help residents complete forms for their stimulus rebate check, for free. Prizes and give-a-ways will go on all day.

    Events are scheduled throughout the day. Please see attached events schedule; or a City7 video about Community Unity Day, featuring Councilwoman Lavonta Williams.

    Community Unity is designed to promote strong neighborhoods and partnerships. It is a collaboration between the City of Wichita, Power 93.9 radio, Health & Wellness Coalition, Radio Disney, the Optimist Club, and Restoration Ministries. For more information, call Atwater Neighborhood City Hall at 303-8017 or email LaShonda Porter at lporter@wichita.gov.

  154. Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Monkey —

    Actually, I think you need to probably go to the PLUS sizes shop, or the Lots to Love shop to dress that moose… They dress about the same way as a deer, only more to dress!! :-D

  155. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    I’d love to see Palin with a dead moose, a whetstone and a dull skinning knife. I’ll bet she doesn’t even know how to sharpen the knife.

  156. beber
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    “Persecuting people who were not even alive during the injustice is not justice” — the wefu

    They can go to yale.

  157. American
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    In Judging Obama, Question His Judgment
    Monday, September 08, 2008

    By John R. Lott, Jr.

    “Judgment” has become the byword of the election. Barack Obama has always wanted the election to be about the importance of “good judgment,” not experience. While Obama claimed last week that he had more executive experience than Sarah Palin, he has generally stuck to this theme.

    During the primaries, Obama’s claim to “good judgment” largely focused on his early opposition to the Iraq war. But, with the exception of picking Joe Biden as his running mate, virtually all the discussion of Obama’s good judgment still rests on his opposition to the war.

    Obama still has some work to convince people that he possesses good judgment. A new poll released last week by the Pew Research Center found that Americans by 51 to 36 percent trust John McCain’s “good judgment in crisis” over Obama’s.

    But what does it mean to say that Obama has “good judgment”? Does he make the right policy decisions? The presidency is extremely powerful. Can Obama be trusted to restrain his use of that power? Can he judge people and figure out the right people to staff his administration?

    1) The Right Decision?

    Given the emphasis on opposing the war, Obama clearly believes that the ultimate test is whether decisions stand the test of time. So does Obama stick with his decisions in other areas? Sometimes decisions that ultimately turn out to be right might not always appear so, but having good judgment presumably means sticking with a decision even when it might not immediately be obvious to others.

    On ending the war, though, Obama has held many positions: from withdrawing troops immediately in 2009 to taking 16 months to withdraw them when the military advisers recommend that it is safe to withdraw them. During the last few months Obama has changed his positions on a wide range of very important issues: the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, NAFTA, public financing of campaigns, gun control, abortion, gay marriage, Social Security taxes, the death penalty and negotiating with rogue nations.

    Whatever decision is the “correct” decision, either Obama was right a few months ago or he is right now. His judgment can’t be right in both circumstances.

    2) The Ability to Judge People?

    Presidents must know who to trust. Many would quickly point to Obama’s self-identified mentors, Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Michael Pfleger, whom Obama has known for decades and who have a long history of outrageous statements. Many also don’t believe that Obama never knew that Wright and Pfleger had these controversial views despite some denials because these men had national reputations and Obama has himself later admitted that he knew about them.

    Others have pointed to Obama’s association with Williams Ayers, one of the founders of the terrorist group the Weathermen. Ayers has very publicly proclaimed on national television shows during the time Obama was working with him that Ayers was not sorry for the bombings “and that we would do it again” and “I didn’t do enough.”

    Still others point to Tony Rezko, the Illinois political fix-it man who was recently convicted of bribery. Rezko contributed what amounted to probably hundreds of thousands of dollars toward buying Obama house and raised over $160,000 more toward Obama’s campaigns.

    But there is another less noticed problem. Obama doesn’t seem to be able to find employees whom he can trust. The mainstream media has recognized this problem. One article by ABC’s Jake Tapper was entitled “Obama’s Inability to Hire Good Help Rears Its Head … Again.” Another by Politico’s Ken Vogel was entitled “Obama vs. his staff.”

    – Among the better known examples, an aide, Austan Goolsbee, told Canadians that Obama didn’t mean his promise made right before the crucial Ohio primary that he would renegotiate NAFTA. Obama disavowed Goolsbee’s claim and said that he had misstated Obama’s position, and Goolsbee denied claims by the Canadians.

    – A 1996 candidate questionnaire form that was answered stating that Obama supported a ban on handguns was explained as a staffer’s mistake. A statement to the Chicago Tribune last fall claiming that Obama supported the DC gun ban was dismissed as a staffer’s mistake.

    – In a 2004 questionnaire, Obama refrained from criticizing Yasir Arafat or strongly supporting Israel’s security force. As ABC noted: “Mr. Obama blamed a staff member for the oversight.”

    – Obama was asked this year about funding he got for the University of Chicago while his wife, Michelle, worked there. He claimed that someone on his staff had handled it because neither he nor his wife would have allowed his office to benefit his wife’s work.

    – When the Tony Rezko corruption questions emerged, Obama claimed that he had never done anything to advance Rezko’s business interests. Then a letter Obama signed was discovered supporting a Rezko project to city and state housing officials. Obama said that he wasn’t aware of the letter and he said that staff had mishandled it. When answers to questions about how much money Rezko had raised for Obama campaigns proved to be much too low, the mistake was again blamed on staff.

    – When Sarah Palin’s vice presidential nomination was announced, Obama’s campaign immediately issued a statement that reporters described as “ripping” into her. A few hours later, after the initial public reaction, Obama first supported and then backed away from the statement, saying that his campaign had misrepresented his views.

    – Tim Russert confronted Obama at a Democratic Presidential debate in January about Obama’s campaign claiming that the Clintons were “stoking racial tensions.” Yet again, Obama blamed his “overzealous” staff.

    The list goes on, but these cases seem to leave only two options: Either Obama is dishonest and these mistakes were not really mistakes, or he is a very poor judge of people.

    Since Obama points to his campaign as proof that he has more executive experience than Palin, these problems also raise questions about how efficiently he runs things. If his own staff keeps on making mistakes in misrepresenting what Obama believes, can Obama clearly tell staff what policies he wants them to implement if he becomes president.

    3) Does he have the right judgment to exercise government power?

    Presidents have tremendous power. Abuses of power even before someone becomes president should raise a red flag. Some recent behavior by Obama’s campaign raises some real concerns.

    On Aug. 27, Milt Rosenberg — an institution in Chicago, broadcasting on WGN radio since 1973 — had Stanley Kurtz on to discuss Kurtz’s research showing the extremely extensive relationship between Obama and William Ayers. Milt, who is a very middle-of-the-road person, had tried to have both sides represented and had invited a representative of the Obama campaign. No one from the campaign agreed to appear. Instead, there was an immediate, massive call-in campaign to the radio station to have WGN cancel Kurtz’s appearance. When that failed, the campaign organized supporters to call into the station and simply tie up the telephone lines so that other listeners couldn’t ask questions. Others threatened Federal Communication Commission action to revoke WGN’s license.

    Rosenberg said that he had never seen anything similar to silence discussion during his years on radio.

    Unfortunately, this isn’t a unique case. For example, when ads were run in August discussing Obama’s relationship to Ayers, Obama’s campaign demanded that the Department of Justice criminally investigate the group behind the ads. (What criminal charges that were justified by running an ad were never explained.) It is bad enough that a senator demands criminal charges against a political opponent, but this becomes a real problem if the president of the U.S. asks his justice department to do the same thing.

    Conclusion

    It is difficult to understand Obama’s claim to “good judgment.” When has any modern major party presidential nominee so frequently changed his positions on so many important issues or blamed his staff for so many problems? If Obama can’t consistently hold positions on important issues, how can he claim that he has such good judgment? Possibly Obama can come up with some other way of showing “good judgment,” but so far he hasn’t succeeded using the standards that he wants to be judged by.

    John Lottis the author of Freedomnomics and a senior research scientist at the University of Maryland.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,418821,00.html

  158. Boxlock
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    beber Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:42 pm |
    “I’d love to see Palin with a dead moose, a whetstone and a dull skinning knife. I’ll bet she doesn’t even know how to sharpen the knife.”

    And ‘beber’, I bet you don’t even know which side of the blade to sharpen.
    That lady could hang and open you up, drop your entrails on the ground, and have your hide off before you even cooled down.
    And that action would be an act of kindness toward you compared to what her husband would do.

  159. Nathaniel
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    Mary,

    You don’t even believe in Jesus and routinely mock Christianity.

    Yet you will proclaim Christ to be a liberal?

    Talk about absurd.

  160. Nathaniel
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Jesus was not a community organizer. Jesus was more of a roaming Evangelist if we are making such simple comparisons.

    Jesus was also teaching several Desciples to continue to carry on with his message.

    A message many of you don’t even agree with, yet you will sit here comparing Obama as a community organizer to Jesus.

    Absurd.

  161. Political_mama
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Chas
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 6:02 pm | Permalink
    Monkey —

    Actually, I think you need to probably go to the PLUS sizes shop, or the Lots to Love shop to dress that moose… They dress about the same way as a deer, only more to dress!!

    that’s darn funny it doesn’t matter who you are!

  162. Political_mama
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Parkay- laws are already set up to demand those suspected of abuse to be reported. Some slip through- just like the teachers, the parent, the other doctors…all of them who missed that this girl was being sexually abused by her step father.

    When you remove that girls out- you create more suicides, murders, and dumpster babies and forced abortions by beating or other more dangerous means. Do not take away the abused girl’s most probable path to being found out- by ending her legal means of abortion. I guarantee you, her abuse will be far worse if you do.

  163. Political_mama
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    kswind- please keep reporting this and writing letters. The prisons have been ignoring proper cleaning of the facilities that would cut down on MRSA and other superbugs immensely. And yes, healthy people CAN get MRSA- I had it after working with patients with it- and I was pregnant.

    People die from MRSA. It isn’t a joke. And all they have to do is touch a doorhandle and then scratch a mosquito bite.

    It doesn’t just affect inmates either- it affects the visitors and staff. The prisons need to get a very strict infection control policy in place.

    And yeah, the inmate has the right to file a lawsuit.

  164. kswind
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Political_mama. I will continue writing letters because that is all that I can do right now. MH was right, my son is no saint, but he was healthy when he went to prison and now he is not. I do know that people die from this and that it is easily spread, not only from touch but can be airborne as well. I talked to my son last night and in addition to the antibiotic they now have him swabbing each nostril with triple-antibiotic ointment three times a day. I assume this to be because the bacteria can be spread thru the air. Again, I want to thank those who responded with suggestions. I will be following up on most all of them.

  165. Phantom
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Kswind, keep us posted as to progress, or lack thereof.

  166. Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    Well, in spite of Nathan’s pronouncement, anybody who preaches week after week, KNOWS that Jesus was indeed a community organizer… Hardly a demeaning thing to say… Read the parbles…. Red the Sermon on the Mount(BOTH of them — Matthew and Luke) Even the Magnificat(from mother Mary) –

    If you cant see the community nature of the message of Christ, then there isnt much that can be said…

    As I pointed out earlier, Reading the Book of Acts (esp. Chs. 2 – 4) also shows the Community Organizing nature of the earliest of believers in Jerusalem….

    NOBODY is comparing Obama with Jesus… any more than it is a comparison to say to people the importance of carrying another’s burdens, or carrying one’s own cross….

    So, such a gripe is just that…. a GRIPE from one who knows not what he says!!

    And with that said —–

    Good night; good luck; God bless —-
    Whatever you conceive God to be!!

    Blessings ALL!!

    So mote it be!!

  167. StevenEDavis
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Thanks to Norah:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-DIXck5Ffo&NR=1

    We are all in this thing together…

  168. Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    I dated a woman who looked quite similar to Nora Jones. Unfortunately, she was on the rebound from a relationship and was using me for a comfort blanket. :D

  169. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:11 am | Permalink

    Does John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) own another suit?

    We all know the Arizona Beer Queen spent something like $300,000 a night for the outfits she wore at the Republic Party convention. Remember that clingy chromakey-green number that looked like it was made out of a discontinued ShamWow color, and the $800 shoes that were molded to her feet by imported Italian cobblers?

    Okay, the country club bling-bling diamonds and pearls skewed Cindy’s per diem wardrobe budget; we don’t know whether she bought them just for the occasion. But do you think we’ll ever see that yellow monstrosity with the Elvis-at-the-Flamingo collar again? Looked like something from the Prymaat Conehead couture collection.

    But McCodger keeps wearing that same frumpy black suit from the Men’s Wearhouse bargain rack. He makes John Fiedler look like a GQ model.

    And he wears it everywhere. On the golf course in George HW Bush’s cart. When he’s serving up dry-rubs to his media lackeys. When he’s checkin’ out Quayle with a rack his Moose-Dressing running mate.

    The same damned suit.

    And he keeps the coat buttoned to hide his belt-at-the-armpits when he goes full Fred Mertz.

    Should fashion sense make a difference in a presidential election? Why not? It’s about as stupid as most CONs’ rants on this forum.

  170. Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    The “Drill Here Drill Now” song available for purchase. :D

    http://www.americansolutions.com/General/?Page=5211e44c-32fd-40a8-919f-1449531d61da

  171. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    “Regular” struts –

    “I dated a woman who looked quite similar to Nora Jones.”

    You’re a real stud-muffin, I’m sure. The Nora Joneses of the world just line up to date you. And that four-pronged cane is just to beat them away.

    Too bad they’re all inflatable.

  172. Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:28 am | Permalink

    #
    Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    “Regular” struts –

    “I dated a woman who looked quite similar to Nora Jones.”

    You’re a real stud-muffin, I’m sure. The Nora Joneses of the world just line up to date you. And that four-pronged cane is just to beat them away.

    Too bad they’re all inflatable.
    =========================
    I was once young with ripped abs. :)

  173. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    “Regular” adds –

    “I was once young with ripped abs.”

    I’m sure you also told the truth once.

  174. Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:41 am | Permalink

    #
    Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    “Regular” adds –

    “I was once young with ripped abs.”

    I’m sure you also told the truth once.
    ===================
    hahaha!

    Pathetic old man.

  175. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:46 am | Permalink

    “Regular” –

    I stand corrected.

    I guess you never did, “Pathetic old man.”

  176. annie_moose
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    no new open thread?

    look what the academic nitwits and grant whores have been up too

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiQU5xyuq_A

  177. annie_moose
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    history made today

    http://www.timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=15620

    Some called it an “Alice in Wonderland” investigation into the makeup of the universe whilst others said that it is a dangerous tampering with nature that could spell doomsday.

    Scientists at the Swiss laboratory CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research laboratory — better known by its French acronym), launched an experiment today (September 10), to re-enact the “Big Bang” on a smaller scale to explain the origins of the universe and life.

    In the first test run, scientists today at 1:00 pm IST sent the first beam of protons around the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) located inside a 17-mile (27-kilometre) tunnel underneath the French-Swiss border at CERN, testing the controlling strength of the world’s largest superconducting magnets. This is the most powerful atom-smasher ever built.

    The injection of the first protons into the tunnel has kicked off a long and cautious commissioning process, testing equipment and procedures, before starting experiments a matter of weeks from now.

    After this first counter-clockwise beam, a clockwise test will follow. When all is ready, the LHC will start sending clouds of particles on a collision course at the speed of light – that is, two parallel beams of protons, one clockwise and the other anticlockwise, around the tunnel. Superconducting magnets cooled close to absolute zero — the chill of deep space — will steer the beams so that they converge inside four chambers, like racing cars in a chicane.

    It could be about a month before beams travelling in opposite directions, both travelling at close to the speed of light, are brought together in collisions that some sceptics fear could create micro “black holes” that could have the potential to devour all positive matter on the planet.

  178. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    THIS IS THE OPEN TOPIC FOR 9/10/08

  179. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    HAMMER ATTACK!

    Too bad nobody on the subway could defend themselves against the hammer attack. Nobody had a gun or even a hammer to use in self-defense.

    The evil nature of man will continue whether guns are banned or not. If guns are banned though, law-abiding people will be defenseless from attacks like this. The gun – best weapon for personal self-defense. Some would take the Freedom to Defend Our Very Lives away from us.

    SEE THE VIDEO HERE:

    http://www.news10.net/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=47520&catid=5

    PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A man suspected of brutally attacking a dozing Philadelphia subway passenger with a hammer last week while other riders stood idly by is in custody.

    Police say the suspect has a lengthy criminal record. The victim was treated at a hospital and released. Click on the video link to see the scene that was caught on tape.

    The video shows a man attacking another man with a hammer in a subway car last Thursday.

    Police say the attacker was with a young child. He appears to tell the child to go sit down.
    That’s when police say the man reached into a backpack, pulled out a hammer and began hitting someone sitting near him.

    The Associated Press

  180. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    The subway attacker was another Repeat Offender, a criminal released from jail to run loose on the streets.

    That’s the kind of REFORM Obama has voted for in the past. Obama thinks these criminals can be cured. Obama even voted against the death penalty!

    Criminals who repeatedly commit Violent Crimes should not be let free.

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iHwb9A3hIA8W5GpXlTFL_zj8hqdAD933V3JG0

    “He has a long criminal history including rape, robbery, assault, narcotics violations,” Ramsey said.

  181. Rage
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Wow. I always knew the Bush Interior Department was in bed with the oil industry, but I never dreamed that would be literally correct!

    Gov’t Officials Probed About Illicit Sex, Gifts

    By DINA CAPPIELLO
    The Associated Press
    Wednesday, September 10, 2008; 2:35 PM

    ?ASHINGTON — Government officials handling billions of dollars in oil royalties engaged in illicit sex with employees of energy companies they were dealing with and received numerous gifts from them, federal investigators said Wednesday.

    The alleged transgressions involve 13 Interior Department employees in Denver and Washington. Their alleged improprieties include rigging contracts, working part-time as private oil consultants, and having sexual relationships with _ and accepting golf and ski trips and dinners from _ oil company employees, according to three reports released Wednesday by the Interior Department’s inspector general.

    More here.

  182. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Goodbye Concealed Carry, and the Right to Defend Your Life, if Obama is President:

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Mzk4ZjVkMGQ5ZjMzYTY4ZDIzMjMyZTYzMDJjMzlhZGQ=

    August 27, 2008 8:00 AM

    Obama’s Aim
    Despite the rhetoric, the candidate opposes gun rights.

    You don’t have to go back that far to find Obama taking an extreme stance against gun rights. In 2004, while running for the U.S. Senate, he promised to bar citizens nationwide from receiving concealed-carry permits.

    The Chicago Tribune reported then that Obama “backed federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement.”

    Obama explained his plan to pre-empt state concealed-carry laws with a federal bill: “National legislation,” Obama said at the time, “will prevent other states’ flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents.”

  183. avtolle
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Since Max has declared this the Open Thread for 9/10, too, I’ll offer this: http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/524912.html#recent_comm
    which deals with 90% of Kansas schools meeting the AYP targets in the 2007-2008 school year. Look carefully at this, and the article in Tuesday’s Eagle; no where is any mention made of how the USD 259 high schools did. No surprise, after looking at the link to the list of schools not attaining AYP; of the 12 high schools in USD 259 (I didn’t know about Blackbear Bosin Academy previously), eight did not make AYP.

    While I’m not in favor of NCLB and the AYP targets, it is, at present, what we have. I applaud the increase in the number of elementary and middle schools achieving the target for 2007-2008, and wonder just how long it will take for the high schools to do better (keeping in mind that the target is moving annually). It would be interesting to read/see the results of the eight high schools in question to determine how many of these schools had an increase in the percentage of students testing “proficient or above” while not achieving the higher AYP target.

  184. avtolle
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Oops; my bad; Blackbear Bosin Academy is, according to the USD 259 official website, an alternative school for 7th, 8th and 9th grade students (the old “Junior High” model); so, to be fair to the district, it would be eight out of 11 high schools that didn’t make AYP.

  185. lindainks55
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Wide-Ranging Ethics Scandal Emerges at Interior Dept.

    WASHINGTON — As Congress prepares to debate expansion of drilling in taxpayer-owned coastal waters, the Interior Department agency that collects oil and gas royalties has been caught up in a wide-ranging ethics scandal — including allegations of financial self-dealing, accepting gifts from energy companies, cocaine use and sexual misconduct.

    In three reports delivered to Congress on Wednesday, the department’s inspector general, Earl E. Devaney, found wrongdoing by a dozen current and former employees of the Minerals Management Service, which collects about $10 billion in royalties annually and is one of the government’s largest sources of revenue other than taxes.

    “A culture of ethical failure” besets the agency, Mr. Devaney wrote in a cover memo.

    The reports portray a dysfunctional organization that has been riddled with conflicts of interest, unprofessional behavior and a free-for-all atmosphere for much of the Bush administration’s watch.

    more…
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/washington/11royalty.html?ref=business

  186. avtolle
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Linda, read that; interesting that the DOJ decided to not prosecute two of those involved in the matter, both of whom, based upon the allegations set out, should be prosecuted IMHO.

  187. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Ron Paul turns down McCain’s endorsement request

    WASHINGTON — Rep. Ron Paul has given a “thanks but no thanks” response to a last-ditch effort by the McCain campaign to get the Lake Jackson lawmaker to endorse the Republican nominee for president.

    On Tuesday, a day before Paul, a former GOP contender for president, had scheduled a news conference to announce he was urging supporters to back third-party candidates over GOP Sen. John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, he got a call from former Texas Sen. Phil Gramm, a McCain ally and former McCain campaign co-chairman.

    According to Paul, Gramm asked him back to McCain, arguing that the Republican was closer to his positions than Obama.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/5993522.html

  188. Nathaniel
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Max,

    Good article. Of course it didn’t tell me anything that I didn’t already know. It is amazing how much liberals like Obama try to hide their true feelings about wanting to ban guns and pass further gun control laws.

    As WS Clark used to try to claim:

    No one wants your guns.

    LOL, yeah right. Until you talk to people like Mary and Obama.

  189. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Oh I know YOU knew it Nathan, but many of the Libs are being told by their Unions to vote for Obama.

    I know many Union members who are also NRA members, have carry permits, and fully understand the importance of the 2nd Amendment.

    They need to decide between standing up for Freedom or doing what they are told to do.

    I hear the sheep now…..

    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  190. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    The Unions say: Vote for Obama!!!!

    The NRA says: Vote for Freedom, vote for McCain!!!!

  191. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    The Socialists say: “Vote for Obama!”

    The Capitalists say: “Vote for McCain!”

    A very clear choice, in case you didn’t already know.

  192. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Lookin for some poll data right now showing demographic data on Obama supporters.

    I would bet most Muslims are supporting Obama.

  193. gster
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Max- You truly are your own joke, if you get it,which is doubtful!

  194. lindainks55
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    I like funny jokes much better than the kind that make you laugh nervously vs. crying, yelling at the absurdity or turning your head away from the ugliness.

  195. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Only 8% of Muslims are Republican!

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aErcM5VoV0jA&refer=worldwide

    Nationally, only 8 percent of Muslims identify themselves as Republican, compared with 49 percent who say they are Democrats, according to the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations. In 2006, the percentage was 17 percent Republican to 42 percent Democratic.

  196. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    I bet the Jewish vote goes to McCain.

  197. MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    That means McCain wins Florida.

  198. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Oh damn.

    Cannabis linked to earlier psychosis onset
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    NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – Researchers from Spain have found a strong and independent link between cannabis use and the onset of psychosis at a younger age. The association, they say, cannot be explained by chance, and is not related to gender or the use of other drugs. It is, however, related to the amount of cannabis used.

    “The clinical importance of this finding is potentially high,” Dr. Ana Gonzalez-Pinto from Santiago Apostol Hospital in Vitoria, and colleagues write in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, given that cannabis use is extremely prevalent among young people.”

    The researchers also report that “estimates of the attributable risk suggest that the use of cannabis accounts for about 10 percent of cases of psychosis.”"

  199. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Oh damn.

    Cannabis linked to earlier psychosis onset
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    NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – Researchers from Spain have found a strong and independent link between cannabis use and the onset of psychosis at a younger age. The association, they say, cannot be explained by chance, and is not related to gender or the use of other drugs. It is, however, related to the amount of cannabis used.

    “The clinical importance of this finding is potentially high,” Dr. Ana Gonzalez-Pinto from Santiago Apostol Hospital in Vitoria, and colleagues write in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, given that cannabis use is extremely prevalent among young people.”

    The researchers also report that “estimates of the attributable risk suggest that the use of cannabis accounts for about 10 percent of cases of psychosis.”"

  200. cosmos_originally
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    ‘Reduced Dominance Is Predicted for U.S.
    Analyst Previews Report to Next President’
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/09/AR2008090903302.html?sub=AR
    “An intelligence forecast being prepared for the next president on future global risks envisions a steady decline in U.S. dominance in the coming decades, as the world is reshaped by globalization, battered by climate change, and destabilized by regional upheavals over shortages of food, water and energy.”

  201. Rage
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    The findings are based on 131 patients ages 15 to 65 years who needed inpatient care for a first psychotic episode during a 2-year period. The subjects were evaluated using the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis I Disorders, and clinical and demographic data were also collected.

    The results showed a significant gradual reduction in the age at which psychosis began that correlated with an increased dependence on cannabis. Compared with nonusers, age at onset was reduced by 7, 8.5, and 12 years among users, abusers and dependents, respectively, the researchers report.

    In further analysis, the effect of cannabis on age at onset “was not explained by the use of other drugs or by gender,” they also note. The finding was similar in the youngest patients, suggesting that this effect was not due to chance.

    These results “point to cannabis as a dangerous drug in young people at risk of developing psychosis,” Gonzalez-Pinto and colleagues conclude.

    Or, alternately, that kids who smoke a whole lotta dope are likely to have psychological issues of some type.

    Absent some hint of a causative mechanism–something the authors see no need to even hypothesize–this paper establishes a minor correlation in an extremely small population.

    Notwithstanding the authors’ self-serving attempt to play up the significance of their their findings, from an objective scientific standpoint, it’s irresponsible to reach the dramatic conclusions they are making.

  202. Rage
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    http://in.reuters.com/article/health/idINCOL06857720080910

  203. Posted September 10, 2008 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Max predicts:
    “I bet the Jewish vote goes to McCain.”

    Perhaps that was before McCain picked a woman who attends an anti-Semitic church for his VP. Having a preacher go on about how the Jews deserve the persecution they get because they haven’t accepted Jesus doesn’t win over many Jews.

  204. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    They also consider “Jews for Jesus” to be anti-semite, and that is another of Palin’s churches close affiliations.
    Don’t think ever Lieberman can save them. You don’t think palin has secretely converted Lieberman do you?

  205. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Like I predicted, mccain isn’t going to be able to let loose of palin’s skirt, else the country would see what a disappointing group he could gather, and the enthusiasm would dry up.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080910/pl_nm/usa_politics_palin_dc_1

  206. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Did the editors not include an open thread today, so that we’d be forced to comment on the trivial threads?

  207. Mr_Kia
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    MaxGrobnik
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:35 pm | Permalink
    I bet the Jewish vote goes to McCain.
    —————————————————-
    No chance. In the 2006 elections 87% of the Jewish vote went Democrat.
    Most Jews I know seem to be culturally Jewish vs. spiritually.

  208. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Note the bush justice dept. had yet again declined to prosecute.
    “The findings are the latest sign of trouble at the Minerals Management Service, which already has been accused of mismanaging the collection of fees from oil companies and writing faulty contracts for drilling on government land and offshore. The charges also come as Congress and both presidential candidates are debating whether to open up more federal offshore waters to oil and natural gas drilling.

    “This all shows the oil industry holds shocking sway over the administration and even key federal employees,” said Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla. “This is why we must not allow Big Oil’s agenda to be jammed through Congress.”

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., urged Democrats to reopen a House investigation of the Minerals Management Service that was initiated in 2006 by House Republicans. “Looking into and fixing these problems would have meant highlighting the enormous revenues that domestic oil and natural gas production contributes to our treasury. This just didn’t fit into their anti-drilling campaign,” he said.