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Open thread 9/7
- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted Sept. 7, 2008 at 6:04 a.m.
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I really get a kick out of reading what each side says the other is going to do/for the country when they are in office. The only thing thing that will change is who is screwing us and how far and hard they are going to stick it in. Changing Madams in the whorehouse,nothing more,nothing less
So, how bad is it when your VP pick becomes more popular than the one actually running? Many are now saying PALIN/MCCAIN.
That’ll tell you how fickle the american voter is- she’s a hard right fundy- and that’s who they want vs what is best for the country. Experience HA. Most people didn’t even know who she was a month ago- and all they know is she’s anti-choice.
McCain has a history of flip flopping on the position, so he can’t even sell himself to the devil on this one by insisting he’s now anti-choice.
Its your party GOP and you should cry if you want to.
Up all night, eh Freebird?
“McCain has a history of flip flopping on the position…”
Flip flopping? Tell me again, who was not going to vote for Obama because of his treatment of Hillary?
Palin is quite the politician; she has energized two bases.
That was me, and I”m still STILL upset at him over it. I just can’t let Palin get her fundy freakshow rear end in a national seat.
Asif Ali Zardari is the new President. I wonder if that means, now that Bush’s ally is out of power, if Bush’s fellow political allies, the Taliban, will be routed out of Pakistan.
Then again, there really wasn’t much mention of war and Osama Bin Laden at the RNC. Seven years of failure isn’t much to brag about, but the Republicans did hint they are in favor of more Americans becoming POWs in order to build character.
Did you hear? McCain was a POW. I don’t know if they mentioned that at the convention, I was too focused on the purple heart bandaids.
John McCain made a quick stop at the Capitol one day last spring to sit in on Senate negotiations on the big immigration bill, and John Cornyn was not pleased.
Cornyn, a mild-mannered Texas Republican, saw a loophole in the bill that he thought would allow felons to pursue a path to citizenship.
McCain called Cornyn’s claim “chicken-s—,” according to people familiar with the meeting, and charged that the Texan was looking for an excuse to scuttle the bill. Cornyn grimly told McCain he had a lot of nerve to suddenly show up and inject himself into the sensitive negotiations.
“F— you,” McCain told Cornyn, in front of about 40 witnesses.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/51660.html
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Dick Cheney has nothing on this guy.
Just what we need; a president that’s subject to temper tantrums.
Check out the photo of the wooly mammoth and news story.
cool…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417403,00.html
Political_mama Posted September 7, 2008 at 6:30 am
“So, how bad is it when your VP pick becomes more popular than the one actually running? Many are now saying PALIN/MCCAIN.” And;
“I just can’t let Palin get her fundy freakshow rear end in a national seat.”
ZOGBY: MCCAIN-PALIN UP 4%…
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1548
Ha ha, how does it feel this morning to know your boy is fading P_mama….and will continue to do so as his weakness and lack of experience doing anything in his political career continue to become more and more apparent.
The reason that the Obama camp is so afraid of Sarah Barracuda is because she’s a basketball hero.
Obama likes to put on his ‘ARMY’ t-shirt and play a little round ball with the troops in his staged photo-ops. The truth? He wouldn’t be able to beat the girl in a little one-on-one!
Little Barry is running scared!
hehehe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7598000/7598964.stm
odd book titles
Wall Street Journal e-mail alert.
“Regulators shut down Silver State Bank, the latest in a series of bank failures and one that could ripple through the presidential campaign.
Until recently, the son of Republican nominee Sen. McCain sat on Silver State’s board and was a member of its three-person audit committee, which was responsible for overseeing the company’s financial condition. Andrew McCain left the Henderson, Nev., bank July 26 after five months on the board, citing “personal reasons.” He is Sen. McCain’s adopted son from his first marriage.”
Failed banks run in the family, eh?
Adding Palin to the ticket has energized people who were already going to vote for McCain in red states that weren’t going blue. At this point of the match up polls are even less important than before, but do take a look at any and all the electoral maps. Looks bleak for the McCain / Palin camp.
When it comes to governing styles (ie, governing by gut instinct),
Sarah Palin = George W Bush
Are you happy with the overall direction of the USA under the leadership of George W Bush? If so, then you’ll LOVE Sarah Palin!
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HLP
Posted September 7, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink
The reason that the Obama camp is so afraid of Sarah Barracuda is because she’s a basketball hero.
Obama likes to put on his ‘ARMY’ t-shirt and play a little round ball with the troops in his staged photo-ops. The truth? He wouldn’t be able to beat the girl in a little one-on-one!
Little Barry is running scared!
hehehe
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I miss playing basketball. I loved to ‘tomahawk’ dunk over people. Was a feeling of dominating power. :D
Diet, eat less meat and save the world here’s a link to the UN article. It’s all about control, and a little squeeze here and there, until we are gone.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/07/food.foodanddrink
Now Regular is seven feet tall; is there anywhere he hasn’t been, any task he hasn’t accomplished, any sport he hasn’t excelled in, and any fib he hasn’t told?
It is called the “iceberg effect” where what you see on the surface is only a small part of the larger issue. I am noticing it with the selection of Sarah Palin as the Vice President nominee for the Republican Party. Palin is a woman that should not make a difference as to her gender in it.
But almost within the same breath it is said that she can not be gone after as if she was a man because it would be taken as attacking her because she is a woman.
Whether it is a liberal or a Conservative commenting on it the same thing is said.
It is being used as a political tool, If the Democratic make a valid point than it is attacking her because she is a woman. If Palin makes a valid point than it can not be counter because it will be seen as an attack on her because she is a woman. There have been attacks on her that are gender bias, attacking her on how can she be a good V.P. and a good mother? If she was a man the question would not be raised.
The very tactic is gender bias and demeaning to women and men.
“Regular” boasts –
“I loved to ‘tomahawk’ dunk over people. Was a feeling of dominating power.
I’m sure it was, “Regular.”
Not at all it’s been in, y’know, real life.
I’ve seen ya Regular.
Only thing you can dunk is a donut.
interesting chart same money same game
http://news.muckety.com/2008/09/05/mccains-campaign-for-change-is-fueled-by-same-old-money-machine/4861
more of the same from Mr. McCain
I want that Bumper sticker: If you like GWBush, you’ll LOVE McCain/Palin.
The war in Iraq was “God’s plan.” Preach it, Sister Sarah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs
“God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gasline built, so pray for that.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q9MMJESywA&feature=related
Extended church video of the governor of Alaska.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k84m2orSOaM&feature=related
Oops say his Muslim Faith on the interview here. This communist candidate is flawed in many ways. How can he fight terrorists if they are Muslims.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGMQ5DpVVTM
Oops say his Muslim Faith on the interview here. This communist candidate is flawed in many ways. How can he fight terrorists if they are Muslims.
Peyuuuu! I can smell the desperation even from Arizona! :)
Hello,
I’m a black guy that can play basketball.
Vote for me!
The One.
“Extended church video of the governor of Alaska.” — Rage.
Please Rage, how could any human being listen to that. I challenge you, Franklin, Craptor, Regular, Borg #216, to listen to every single second of both videos. Do it; do it for GAWD, do it for the PARTY, but most of all do it for ME.
Somewhat telling:
Office Being Sought:
SARA PALIN: Vice PresidentPresident of the United States
BARACK OBAMA: Leader of the Free World
FULL NAME: Sarah Louise Heath Palin
Barack Hussein Obama II
NICKNAME: Sarah Barracuda
Barry Obama; “The One”
PUBLIC OPINION: Palin: Smoking hot in a “naughty librarian” sort of way
Obama: May be The Messiah
AGE Palin: 44
Obama: 48
CHILDREN: Palin: 5 two sons, three daughters
Obama: 2 two daughters
RELEGION/CHURCH ATTENDANCE: Palin: Evangelical Christian; attends Juneau Christian Center when in Juneau and grew up attending Wasilla Assembly of God
Obama: Attended Trinity United Church of Christ for 20 years, a “black liberation theology” church formerly led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright and governed according to the Black Value System
CURRENT JOB: Palin: Governor of Alaska
Obama: Junior Senator from Illinois
PREVIOUS PUBLIC JOBS: Palin: Mayor of Wasilla , AK (1996-2002); President of Alaska Conference of Mayors; Ethics Commissioner of Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
City Council member (1992-1996)
Obama: State Senator (1997-2004); Community Organizer
EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE: Palin: Governor for 2 years; Mayor for 10 years
Obama: None
FOREIGN RELATIONS EXPEREINCE: Palin: Governor of state that borders two foreign countries ( Canada and Russia )
Obama: Chaired Senate subcommittee on Europe but never called it into session; once gave a speech to 200,000 screaming Germans
MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPERIENCE: Palin: Commander in Chief of Alaska National Guard; Son is enlisted Infantryman in U.S. Army
Obama: None
PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE: Palin: Sports reporter; Salmon fisherman
Obama: Associate at civil rights law firm
SPEAKING ABILITY: Palin: Beautifully executed initial stump speech in Dayton , OH hockey arena without a teleprompter
Obama: An enter…wait–did you say without a teleprompter??
SPOUSE’S NAME: Palin: Todd Mitchell Palin
Obama: Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama
SPOUSE’S OCCUPATION: Palin: Salmon fisherman;
Former North Slope production supervisor for BP Oil
Obama: Vice President for Community and External Affairs at University of Chicago Hospitals; former Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago ;
former Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies; former Assistant to the Mayor of Chicago; former associate at Sidley Austin law firm
REACTION TO SPOUSE’S POLITICAL SUCCESS:
Palin: Quit 17-year BP oil job when BP became involved in natural gas pipeline negotiations with wife’s administration
Obama: Promoted and given 160% pay raise by UofC hospitals within months of husband’s election to U.S. Senate; Employer received $1,000,000.00 federal earmark, requested by husband, after her promotion
COOLEST THING ABOUT SPOUSE: Palin: Tesoro Iron Dog Snowmobile race champion (longest snowmobile race in the world); In 2008, while defending his championship, was injured when he was thrown 70 feet from his machine. He was sent to the hospital but still finished in fourth place Obama: Sister of Oregon State University head basketball coach Craig Robinson
MOST COURAGEOUS MOMENT IN PUBLIC SERVICE: Palin: Resigned in protest from position of Ethics Commissioner of Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in order to expose legal violations and conflicts of interest of Alaska Republican leaders, including the former state Attorney General and the State GOP Chairman (who was also an Oil & Gas Commissioner), who was doing work for the party on public time and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail.
Obama: Gave an anti-Iraq war speech to a crowd of anti-Iraq war demonstrators in Hyde Park in 2002
IN CURRENT OFFICE BECAUSE…
Palin: Upset sitting Governor in GOP primary due to public support for her efforts to clean up corrupt government establishment
Obama: Republican opponent, who was leading in the polls, was forced to leave race after unsealing of divorce records exposed a sex scandal
THEME: Palin: Change and Clean Government
Obama: Hope and Change; “Bringing Change from Outside Washington ”
WHAT THEY’VE DONE TO LIVE THAT THEME:
Palin: Replaced entire Board of Agriculture and Conservation because of conflict of interest;
Resigned from position of Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in order to expose corruption among members of own party
Obama: Selected 36-year incumbent Senator as running mate
FAMILY AFFAIRS: Palin: May have removed State Public Safety Commissioner as part of effort to protect sister in messy divorce and child custody battle
Obama: Often says, “I am my brother’s keeper”; Brother lives in a hut in Nairobi on $12 per year
UNION AFFILIATION: Palin: Union member, married to Union member
Obama: Endorsed by a union
IRAQ AND TROUP SUPPORT: Palin: Formerly (pre-surge) critical of apparent lack of long-term strategy for Iraq ; Visited wounded U.S. soldiers in Germany ; visited AK National Guard soldiers deployed to Kuwait ; Son deploying to Iraq on 9/11/08 as Army infantryman
Obama: Gave an anti-Iraq war speech to a crowd of anti-Iraq war demonstrators;
almost visited wounded troops in Germany , but decided to go shopping in Berlin instead
BIPARTISAN/”MAVERICK”CREDENTIALS:
Palin: Married to a non-Republican; Exposed corruption within own party; Campaigned for Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell against corrupt GOP congressman Don Young; Called out Sen Ted Stevens (R-AK) to “come clean” about financial dealings that are under fed investigation
Obama: Talks about bipartisanship
LEGISLATIVE RECORD: Palin: Passed a landmark ethics reform bill; Used veto to cut budgetary spending; Prevented “bridge to nowhere” that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.
Obama: Voted “present” over 100 times as IL state senator
HOW THEY DEALT WITH CORRUPT INDIVIDUALS IN HOME CITY/SATE: Palin: Exposed legal violations and conflicts of interest of Alaska Republican leaders;
Campaigned against corrupt GOP Representative;
Ran against and defeated corrupt incumbent governor in GOP primary
Obama: Launched political career in home of unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers (and still refers to him as a part of “mainstream Democratic Chicago”; Purchased home with help of convicted felon Tony Rezko
GUNS: Palin: Lifetime member of NRA and avid hunter; video can be found on YouTube of Palin firing an M4 at a military firing range
Obama: Worked to pass legislation in Illinois that would prevent all law-abiding citizens from owning firearms
EARMARKS: Palin: Opposed “Bridge to Nowhere” project; Said Alaska should avoid relying on federal money for projects; Campaigned against porker Don Young (R-AK) in 2008 primary
Obama: Secured federal earmarks for wife’s employer and for campaign bundlers
ABORTION: Palin: Pro life; gave birth to 5th child knowing that he would have Down’s syndrome
Obama: Pro-choice; only IL state sen. to speak against the Born Alive Infant’s Protection Act, which required medical care to be given to live infants who survived abortions
ENERGY: Palin: Believes energy independence is a matter of national security; For drilling in ANWR, which is in her state
Obama: Says Americans should “get tune-ups” and “check tire pressure”;
Says “we can’t expect the world to be okay with” our use of heating and air conditioning
ENVIORNMENT: Palin: Chair of Alaska Conservation Commission (2003-2004); Announced plans to create sub-cabinet group of advisors to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions in AK
Obama: Talks about the environment a lot
ATHLETIC PROWESS: Palin: Runs marathons
Obama: Has reporters tailing him to the gym
I’m a white woman that can play basketball, vote for me.
“Son deploying to Iraq on 9/11/08 as Army infantryman” — we’ll see, but interesting coincidence if he goes; will the secret service be following him around?
okobserver,
WHO are YOUR ‘experts’ on the Arctic Refuge issue?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/the-gop%e2%80%99s-white-bread-convention/#comment-418986
sunflower5,
Thanks for the post.
That is great information….Palin, what a lady!
Obama….what a dud!
Republican John McCain said Sunday if he’s elected president, he will appoint Democrats to his Cabinet.
Arguing Americans’ distrust of government doesn’t break down by party, McCain said he wants the best people to tackle the nation’s toughest problems regardless of partisanship. He continued to build on his nomination acceptance speech last week in which he faulted Democrats as well as Republicans for losing their way in Washington.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/07/mccain-i-will-appoint-democrats-to-my-cabinet/
A candidate that will actually change Washington, not just talk about it.
A candidate who has proven to reach out to both sides as opposed to Obama…the most liberal Democrat in the Senate who hasn’t done anything but talk. Obama is the “One” alright….the number one empty talker.
I don’t mind some salty language. It is all about the policies… and McCain promises more Bush’s current path… No McCain, No Way, No How…
Does the eagle “whitebread” staff take off on sunday? Isn’t sunday a religious day off?
This appears to be Republican foreign policy which openly advocates for total global military domination and one that must be squashed.
The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is a neo-conservative think tank with strong ties to the American Enterprise Institute. PNAC’s web site says it was “established in the spring of 1997” as “a non-profit, educational organization whose goal is to promote American global leadership.”
PNAC’s policy document, “Rebuilding America’s Defences,” openly advocates for total global military domination. Many PNAC members hold highest-level positions in the George W. Bush administration.
PNAC members in prominent government positions:
Dick Cheney Vice President
Donald Rumsfeld Former Secretary of Defense
Douglas J. Feith (former) Undersecretary of Defense
I. Lewis Libby Vice President Cheney’s former Chief of Staff and Assistant to the Vice President for National Security Affairs.
Aaron Friedberg Vice President Cheney’s deputy National Security advisor
Robert Zoelick US Deputy Secretary of State
Paula Dobriansky Undersecretary of State
Elliott Abrams Deputy National Security Adviser
Frank Gaffney Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board
Fred C. Ikle Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board
Eliot A. Cohen Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board
Henry S. Rowen Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board
William J. Bennett Presidential speech writer
Jeb Bush Former Governor of Florida
Paul Wolfowitz World Bank President
John Bolton Ambassador to the U.N.
Zalmay Khalilzad U.S. ambassador to Iraq
Why do people like, jay-bird, political_mama, Monkey boy, Phanatic, and peeper bow down and worship the “scientist” that tout theories (ie. global warming, evolution, causes of ozone depletion, etc.) but dismiss the “scientist” as fudie whacko right wing christian nuts, when they state a proven FACT that life begins a conception?
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Monkeyhawk
Posted September 7, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink
“Regular” boasts –
“I loved to ‘tomahawk’ dunk over people. Was a feeling of dominating power.
I’m sure it was, “Regular.”
Not at all it’s been in, y’know, real life.
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Hahaha!
Some of us were actually very good athletes when we were younger.
Earthdoctor,
Please tell us what the Ones church, that he has been a member of for twenty years; openly advocates for and, their goal is to promote what?
Since no one on your list above is running for president……
Regular- Some of us were actually very good athletes when we were younger.
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And the older I get, the better I was…..
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biased1
Posted September 7, 2008 at 1:51 pm | Permalink
Regular- Some of us were actually very good athletes when we were younger.
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And the older I get, the better I was…..
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Whatever putz.
The point is, it is not hard to dunk a basketball if your tall enough and have conditioned legs.
I could already grab the bottom to the net flat footed, so dunking it wasn’t much of a chore. The tomahawk dunk took some practice, but finally got it down.
The woman who’s ready to be President, isn’t ready for the media.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aTcqgRY8ujxA&refer=home
Sept. 7 (Bloomberg) — Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin isn’t giving interviews to the news media and won’t until “the campaign is ready,” campaign manager Rick Davis said today.
Palin will answer questions from reporters “when we think it’s time and when she feels comfortable doing it,” Davis told “Fox News Sunday.”
Palin, the governor of Alaska, was picked by Republican presidential nominee John McCain on Aug. 29 to be his running mate. Palin gave a speech at the Republican National Convention and has appeared at campaign events.
“She’s not scared to answer questions, but you know what?” Davis said. “We run our campaign, not the news media.”
ABC’s Chuck Severson has just announced on the news that Sarah Palin did indeed take on big oil and her win was what is sending an extral $1200 to each resident of Alaska.
Is it any wonder her approval rating is almost 90%?
I think some of the major news interview people should start asking question of an empty chair with Sarah Palin’s name on it.
If she can’t stand up to a reporter how on Earth could she ever be President?
Junior,
Ever see “The Last Lecture”? Professor Randy Pausch? The head fake?
Watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo
You might learn something.
beber
Posted September 7, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink
Now Regular is seven feet tall; is there anywhere he hasn’t been, any task he hasn’t accomplished, any sport he hasn’t excelled in, and any fib he hasn’t told?
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AMEN beber!! I’ve been asking that now for months!!! Nice catch!!
same “windfall profits’ program that Obama has been saying for the whole election granny. Glad to know you finally agree with Obama.
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Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
beber
Posted September 7, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink
Now Regular is seven feet tall; is there anywhere he hasn’t been, any task he hasn’t accomplished, any sport he hasn’t excelled in, and any fib he hasn’t told?
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AMEN beber!! I’ve been asking that now for months!!! Nice catch!!
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Obviously from two posters who still dribble with both hands like toddlers.
“Son deploying to Iraq on 9/11/08 as Army infantryman”
Word has it that his actual physical deployment is not 9/11. He’ll attend training/information regarding deployment on that date.
Maybe Nathaniel can explain this
biased1
Posted September 7, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
Earthdoctor,
Please tell us what the Ones church, that he has been a member of for twenty years; openly advocates for and, their goal is to promote what?
Since no one on your list above is running for president……
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bigoted1… check this >>>>
http://www.trinityucc.org
That should answer your questions….
Does the eagle “whitebread” staff take off on sunday? Isn’t sunday a religious day off?
Is it? Tell that to the people who work on Sundays. It used to be that very little was open on Sunday, but that changed long ago.
Do you like getting your Sunday paper delivered? If so, someone had to print it. Someone had to bundle it. Some of that happens early Sunday a.m. Then there are the paper boys/guys/gals who deliver it on Sunday a.m.
PreD — Isnt there something allegedly illegal about announcing a deployment date publicly??
I heard something about that on the radio the other day…. but didnt hear all of the item….
biased, I’ll admit that life begins at conception if you promise that the admission will never be used to make abortion illegal. How about that.
deal?
Hey, Regular, were you also one of those guys who liked to undercut a player on a layup?
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Predestined
Posted September 7, 2008 at 2:51 pm | Permalink
Hey, Regular, were you also one of those guys who liked to undercut a player on a layup?
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Nope, but I did set a lot of unnecessary picks. :)
Chas,
I have no clue about the legality of announcing deployment dates.
Did you know your link was to a UCC church in Ohio?
I’m curious as to whether the Trinity UCC church that Bo belonged to had more than one pastor. Or was Rev. Wright the only one?
Regular posted September 7, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“Have you ever been to the Arctic Refuge cosmos?
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Articles on the net from experts are the abridged version. Actual expertise takes disciplined, formal education and years of expertise in the field of study.
You have neither cosmos, stop puffing yourself up.
You’re pathetic.”
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Post the “unabridged” version of the U.S. Senate Bill number S.2758 that REFUTES the one listed at the LOC.
Mult-nic’d Regular posted September 5, 2008 at 11:42 am
“Take note cosmos, Palin was appointed to the Oil and Gas Commissio, so I would say she could kick your lightweight buttocks all over the place concerning what is really happening with Alaskan petroleum products.”
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Being “appointed” does not prove that person is qualified. Heck of a job, Brownie! (FEMA)
Palin is either grossly misinformed about the Artic Refuge issue, or she is a LIAR.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/427xjuoj.asp
“One of the pieces of a solution is allowing exploration on that little 2,000 acre plot of land out of the 20 million acres up there in the coastal plain.”
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According to Congress, all 1.5 MILLION acres of Area 1002 would be opened to “exploration”, except for possibly 45,000 acres.
The first lease sale would be a minimum of 200,000 acres — 100 times larger than Palin’s false claim.
2,000 acres is not a “plot”. It’s the maximum amount of surface covered by “production and support facilities”.
http://thomas.loc.gov Bill number S.2758
“(e) Special Areas-
(1) DESIGNATION-
(A) IN GENERAL- The Secretary, after consultation with the State of Alaska, the North Slope Borough, Alaska, and the City of Kaktovik, Alaska, may designate not more than 45,000 acres of the Coastal Plain as a special area if the Secretary determines that the special area would be of such unique character and interest as to require special management and regulatory protection.
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SEC. 4. LEASE SALES.
(d) Acreage Minimum in First Sale- For the first lease sale under this Act, the Secretary shall offer for lease those tracts the Secretary considers to have the greatest potential for the discovery of hydrocarbons, taking into consideration nominations received pursuant to subsection (b)(1), but in no case less than 200,000 acres.
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SEC. 7. COASTAL PLAIN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.
(3) ensure that the maximum surface acreage covered in connection with the leasing program by production and support facilities, including airstrips and any areas covered by gravel berms or piers for support of pipelines, does not exceed 2,000 acres on the Coastal Plain.”
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Gravel roads and gravel mines are not included in the “maximum surface acreage covered”.
When your state has a huge surplus and you’re feeding heavily at the federal trough (using the federal money paid in by the other 49 states!) then it’s OK to redistribute the wealth. Handing out money buys popularity!
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Palin’s state awash with federal money
John McCain’s decision to anoint Sarah Palin as his running mate looks eccentric for many reasons. Not the least is economic principle. Thanks in part to Palin, Alaska’s economy is built on two things that McCain has spent the last few years railing against.
The first is federal spending, especially the little- scrutinized grants known as earmarks. Between 1996 and 2006 per-capita federal spending in Alaska rose from 38 percent above the national average to 71 percent above. Scott Goldsmith, an economist, reckons a third of all jobs in the state depend on it.
Palin has been less single-minded in her pursuit of pork than other Alaskan politicians (which is, admittedly, setting the bar pretty high). But she can take credit for the other pillar of Alaska’s economy: windfall taxes.
Last year she championed a tax hike on oil companies that is helping bring in huge sums — more than $10 billion in the fiscal year that ended in June, according to the companies that pay them. Suddenly flush, the state has promised $1,200 to every man, woman and child, ostensibly to cover the high cost of fuel.
That giveaway is just the start. Rather than paying taxes to the state, Alaskans receive checks from it.
Not all federal spending comes in the form of earmarks, in any case. Retirement and Medicare checks will roll in as Alaska’s population ages. Military spending, a big part of the state’s economy during the Cold War, is heating up again: from the air you can see construction at Fort Richardson Army Base, north of Anchorage.
So Alaska’s growth streak, now in its 21st year, is unlikely to break soon. But the good times obscure a big weakness. The state government has become dependent on revenues from oil, which are likely to decline as the major fields dry up.
Rescue may come in the form of a huge pipeline that would run from a natural-gas field in northern Alaska to Canada. It may not be built; even if it is, the gas will not start flowing for at least a decade. Alaskans will be hoping a Vice President Palin can move things along a little quicker.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/377937_palinporkonline06.html
So cosmos, have you ever been to the Arctic Refuge?
Have you done geological studies there?
Have you talked to some of the local experts in person, not some canned Internet posting?
Pathetic cosmos, pathetic.
Lindalinks55 at it again.
That’s because she’s a hypocrite just like all the other cons. That means you testicle.
You might want to revisit Websters. I’m relatively certain that you’re misusing that word.
Political_mama
Posted September 7, 2008 at 2:41 pm | Permalink
same “windfall profits’ program that Obama has been saying for the whole election granny. Glad to know you finally agree with Obama.
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Hardly Mommy not even close. Check your facts on this one. She went head to head with big oil and won it for her state. She didn’t use it as a campaign promise that she would try to get congress to approve.
See mommy that is the difference between a Governor and a community organizer.
Yeah some great leader that Sarah Palin.
She built a sports complex costing millions of dollars to serve a community of 6,000. And she did it on land the city did not have clear title to thus costing the citizens of Wasilla Alaska more than a million dollars in litigation.
And the matter isn’t settled yet.
If incompetence in government officials be your goal, Sarah Palin’s your gal!
What’s the matter multi-nic’d Regular. . .?
You can’t find ANY legislation at http://thomas.loc.gov that says that ONLY a “little 2,000 acre plot of land” would be opened, in the 1.5 MILLION acre Area 1002?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/427xjuoj.asp
“One of the pieces of a solution is allowing exploration on that little 2,000 acre plot of land out of the 20 million acres up there in the coastal plain.”
What’s the matter cosmos?
You won’t admit to being an Internet geeky boy with no expertise outside the keyboard in your house? :D
PreD — Sorry about that link….
Trinity UCC Chicago is a very large congregation…. one of the largest UCC in the nation…. 3,000+ members(?) IIRC….
They have MANY Pastors on Staff… Dr. Wright was the Senior Pastor…. He is now RETIRED…. And has been for quite some time…
All of the wack jobs out there really should take the few minutes of time, and READ Dr. Jeremiah Wright’s Biography…. He is certainly NOT Anti-american!!
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Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 3:23 pm | Permalink
PreD — Sorry about that link….
Trinity UCC Chicago is a very large congregation…. one of the largest UCC in the nation…. 3,000+ members(?) IIRC….
They have MANY Pastors on Staff… Dr. Wright was the Senior Pastor…. He is now RETIRED…. And has been for quite some time…
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And Obama quit that Church, he is no longer a member.
Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 3:24 pm | Permalink
All of the wack jobs out there really should take the few minutes of time, and READ Dr. Jeremiah Wright’s Biography…. He is certainly NOT Anti-american!!
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Chas only a dimwit would have to read a book about this man to see who he is and what he is about. He has told us over and over and over again.
Listen to his spoken words.
The RIGHT link >>>>
http://www.trinitychicago.org
You are, as usual, dead wrong, Okob….
Link to follow….
Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 3:34 pm | Permalink
The RIGHT link >>>>
http://www.trinitychicago.org
You are, as usual, dead wrong, Okob….
Link to follow….
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Chas your link isn’t necessary. There’s just words, just words. I prefer to listen to the man himself and he is a pompous self important hateful person who thinks his country has let him down. This as he moves into his $7 million dollar home.
Regular
Posted September 7, 2008 at 3:25 pm | Permalink
And Obama quit that Church, he is no longer a member.
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Yep he did transfer his membership… Thanks to a bunch of Right Wing Bigots….
Here is a link that is a brief BIO of Dr. Wright…. (BTW, he was a MARINE, as well as service in the U. S. NAVY)
Iranians Hoping for ‘Muslim’ Obama Victory
Iran’s leadership has expressed “great pleasure” at the prospect of a Barack Obama victory in November, according to Menashe Amir, the Iranian-born head of Radio Israel’s Persian language service.
But Iranian President Ahmadinejad has said he doubts that the American establishment “will allow” Obama to win.
“One of the Iranian religious leaders said if Obama will enter the White House, then Islam will conquer the heart of the American nation,” Amir told Isracast.com.
The Iranian leadership likes Obama “mainly because he is a Muslim,” according to Amir. His first name, Barack, comes from “al-baraq,” which is the name of the horse that Muslims believe Muhammad rode on his way to paradise.
His middle name Hussein is also a Muslim name, and he was “born in a Muslim family,” said Amir.
In fact, Obama is a Christian. His deceased father was a Muslim, and though Obama attended a Muslim school in Indonesia, he never pursued the Muslim faith of his early childhood. While some commentators have suggested that this qualifies him as an apostate — a “crime” punishable by death according to Islamic sharia law — Menashe Amir disagreed.
“If he wins the election, Muslims will be very proud of such a conquest, such a win. He didn’t convert [to Christianity] after he was 18. It happened much, much before,” so the sharia law judgment does not apply.
Or will it?
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Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 3:34 pm | Permalink
The RIGHT link >>>>
http://www.trinitychicago.org
You are, as usual, dead wrong, Okob….
Link to follow….
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Call up Jesse Jackson Chas. You and him are close buddies right?
Or, you could channel Jim Jones via a Medium and get the information through the ‘koolaid’ channel.
Thats par for you Granny… Put down a man of faith, knowing nothing about him, or his spiritual journey, and while you are at it, attacking a VETERAN!! How typical of the bigoted RW….
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Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
Thats par for you Granny… Put down a man of faith, knowing nothing about him, or his spiritual journey, and while you are at it, attacking a VETERAN!! How typical of the bigoted RW….
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And right here in the “U.S. of K.K.K. of A!” too Chas!
Boxer… YOU are, as usual, a Friggin Liar!!
AND unashamedly a BIGOT!!
You seem a little hot there Chas….GOOD!
Again, the only thing you got right with the last post was “unashamedly”.
The nouns were of course WRONG. Just give up Chas, you seem unable to ever get it right.
Boxer = LYING BIGOT!! RACIST!!
“Boxer… YOU are, as usual, a Friggin Liar!!
AND unashamedly a BIGOT!!”
Each word true.
Boxlock has been busted several times posting incorrect or deceitful links. And I have engaged him at length in his bigotry.
That’s some church you all got going for ya. It creates such fine representatives. Not.
I love playing with fools….they are so easy to keep occupied with so little attention.
Hey, I don’t make this stuff up…I look around the world for news and opinion. This is true, even if it chaps your butt, ha.
“How does Iran view the possibility that Barack Hussein Obama, a former Muslim, might win the U.S. presidential election? Menashe Amir, an Israeli expert on Iran, says not only Iran but also the rest of the Muslim world, will view it as victory for Islam. In an interview with IsraCast, Menashe Amir quoted an important Iranian personality who declared: ‘If Obama enters the White House, Islam will have conquered the heart of American society!’ However, President Ahmadinejad has said that he did not believe the U.S. establishment would let Obama win.
‘If Barack Hussein Obama wins the U.S presidential election, Muslims will view it as a victory and forget that he converted from Islam to Christianity’ – that’s the view of Israeli analyst Menashe Amir. In fact one leading Iranian personality recently said: ‘If Obama enters the White House, Islam will have conquered the heart of American society’. However, President Ahmadinejad expressed concern that the U.S. establishment would not allow the Democratic frontrunner to win the presidential election.”
http://www.isracast.com/article.aspx?ID=356&t=Iran-Prefers-Obama
Boxer is a former Russian, whose real last name is Trotzky… Like his forbears, he also believes in Totalitarian Rule… :roll:
Leon Trotsky, interesting fellow, though of very different ideology than myself, ha.
I do have….lets see, last count, three Russian handguns. A 7.62×25 CZ-52, a CZ-83 9mm Makarov, and a 7.62×39 Nagant revolver. I
I guess I do have a little interest in Russian history, or at least their firearms.
“Menashe Amir, an Israeli expert on Iran, says not only Iran but also the rest of the Muslim world, will view it as victory for Islam.”
One man’s opinion?
Best I’ve got and good enough?
So?
I happen to think, Boxlock, that folks like you and Sarah Palin are FAR more dangerous to the future of this country than some people over on the other side of the world.
There’s just words, just words. I prefer to listen to the man himself and he is a pompous self important hateful person who thinks his country has let him down. This as he moves into his $7 million dollar home.
Since you said you would rather listen to Wright then read words, here is the sermon that Fox News snipped the comment from about Chickens. Wright even told people how they should respond to the attack on 9-11.
OH he blamed God as having told him, but who’s God would have said that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqPUXjFYh38
And here is the complete sermon where he said GD America and why he thinks God would hate the U.S enough to damn it!
What a distortion of history this man has, why everyone knows that none of it ever happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESVTGEOK_O8&feature=related
Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
Thats par for you Granny… Put down a man of faith, knowing nothing about him, or his spiritual journey, and while you are at it, attacking a VETERAN!! How typical of the bigoted RW….
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As usual Charlie you reading skills weren’t engaged. Knowing nothing about him – Of course I and everyone else who ever listened to his screeching sermons know him. He preached it Sunday after Sunday. He was even to over the top for Oprah.
You bigoted blowhard.
Granny — you never listened to Dr. Wright, or you wouldnt keep up your LIES…. All you have is LIES… because you DONT/WONT listen to what the man actually said!!
Either that, or you are just plain and simple, a no good RACIST Wench!!
I bet on the latter!!
Granny, you and Boxer should get together… you both think alike…. Racist Bigots!!
Oh Wow wait… maybe you are ALREADY together!! :-D
Writer you know I have met you and am surprised sometimes at the things you write. Of course I have listened to him. I have seen the vitriole running down his chin. I have heard him in interviews say exactly what he said in his sermons. People have left his church because of what he preached.
I’m not saying that somewhere in his sermons he didn’t make some valid points. I am saying that he puts down the country I love and for that I don’t respect him. He is a bigot. Remember the way he talked about Hillary Clinton. Reverse bigotry is bigotry have no doubt about it.
Dog on this one we will just have to disagree.
You think you know so damned much —-
Who was it that coined the phrase, “Unashamedly Black, Unapologetically Christian” ??? hmmmm???
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Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 5:21 pm | Permalink
You think you know so damned much —-
Who was it that coined the phrase, “Unashamedly Black, Unapologetically Christian” ??? hmmmm???
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Eddie Murphy
WRONG!!! YOU LOSE!!!
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Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 5:28 pm | Permalink
WRONG!!! YOU LOSE!!!
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No, I’m right. You’re just confused in your mind.
And lick that milk mustache off, it looks disgusted.
You are the bigot Charlie. Make no mistake that the people that know me would laugh in your face. You poor loser.
JAMES, YOU ARE THE LIAR HERE…
GRANNY —
JAMES, YOU ARE THE LIAR HERE…
GRANNY —
GRANNY — I am sure all of your little bigoted friends would agree with you… You bigots all stick together…. You are ALL worthless…. A BLACVK mark on America!!
Granny — YOU are the very type of Americans Dr. Wright says GOD would DAMN… because of your two-faced, bigoted beliefs, and actiions….
Charlie thank you for that vote of confidence.
You are very welcome… I like to call them as they are!! Thanks for admitting who/what you are!!
Multi-nic’d Regular posted September 7, 2008 at 4:09 pm
“Do yourself a favor cosmos.
Get a straw and place it dead center in the middle of a large bowl. Without moving the straw away from the center, you will be able to slant the straw and extract liquid from any area of the bowl.
The same with drilling. One doesn’t need much land to place a slant drill operation.”
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Directional drilling has limitations, is expensive, and time-consuming.
‘Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR)
Oil Development Scenario’
http://www.inforain.org/Northslope/anwr_3.html
“This map of a speculative scenario for the Arctic Refuge Coastal Plain illustrates development that is consistent with the 2,000-acre “limitation” in the House Energy bill (HR4, Section 6507(a)(3)). It is based on the premise of the United States Geological Survey that oil is scattered in small pockets across the Coastal Plain.
The development scenario uses a conservative 4-mile directional drilling reach from drill sites, which is based on industry practice on the North Slope fields such as Alpine and Niakuk. One can see that, in fact, 2,000 acres of development may extend over the entire Coastal Plain.”
Bush Admin. seizes control of Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac…. And here comes the Facist White House…. on their Pale Horse!
Charlie just a word that I am sure that you as a theologian would already know. Dr Wright doesn’t have a clue of what kind of people God would damn.
As for my two faces or bigoted beliefs and actions – I only have one face and as outspoken as I am here you are all aware of how I feel on most subjects – and as for being bigoted – it just isn’t so and my actions if you were ever around me would prove what I say to be true.
Charlie you just don’t get it and that is very sad.
http://www.yahoo.com/news
Charlie if I had another lifetime I would try to straighten out your deluded thinking. Unfortunately you are on your own and we will all be called to account for who we are and what we have done on this earth. (to those who don’t believe as I do just ignore those words) They are just between me and Charlie and we believe in the same God and will face the same judgement.
So, Granny, you just put on your hate/bigot hat for the sake of the Blog?? Yea, sure, right… Got more LIES to tell??? You sure are good doing that!!
Chas remind yourself who it is you are letting get you worked up here.
Consider the source?
Regular. Do I even need to say anymore? The other day he reduced himself to scrolling one sentence over and over.
okobserver? She switched nics and then weasled about it when caught. She makes her living off the work of others. Even leashing them to her beck and call with cell phones.
And then there is Boxlock. Engaging him elsewhere I find him a man frightened of the future and change.
Chas? They are not reasonable people. They are in my estimation not good people. They will say anything and do anything to maintain the stranglehold that they and their like have on this country.
But they will nonetheless not have that much longer. They know this and it colors their posts.
Proponents of Arctic Refuge drilling want to use the same technology as used in Alpine.
http://www.wilderness.org/Library/Documents/upload/AlpineNoEnvironmentalShowpiece.pdf
“Buffer zones violated due to limits of directional drilling technology
Despite the prohibition on permanent facilities in a three-mile buffer zone established to protect wildlife habitat and subsistence hunting and fishing areas along Fish Creek, BLM approved construction of an Alpine production drill site with 30 wells, a power plant, eight miles of permanent roads and pipelines within the buffer.
BLM cited the economic and geological limitations of directional drilling for Alpine Satellites when it granted the oil company’s requested exception to the lease stipulation.9
Granny, the more you rant and rave on about your “Santa Claus” God, who makes a list, and checks it twice…. the moe I think maybe we DONT believe in the same God!!
MY God says “By GRACE are you saved, through faith, and that not of your own actiions….” [Ephesians]
“Judgment Day” seems to be something somebody made up somewhere along the way…
You might want to check out Paul’s writings again!! Talk about delusions!! LOL
“actions” — some translations read, “not by your own doing”
And okobserver insists that Palin’s false claim of a “little 2,000 acre plot of land” is accurate — and proves(sic) it by attacking me.
Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 6:01 pm | Permalink
So, Granny, you just put on your hate/bigot hat for the sake of the Blog?? Yea, sure, right… Got more LIES to tell??? You sure are good doing that!!
Chas where is the hate? So I choose not to believe as you do about Dr Wright. How is that hating or bigotry?
I am probably one of the most color blind people you will ever meet.
The HATE is because you LIE about what he has said, and you constantly attack his love for America…. What more do you want, wench??
“I happen to think, Boxlock, that folks like you and Sarah Palin are FAR more dangerous to the future of this country than some people over on the other side of the world.”
BlueJay, do you seriously think I give a ‘frig’ what you think….on anything. What a laugh.
And you think I would listen to you or any of your brain diseased DemLib friends over the opinion of Menashe Amir, an Israeli expert on Iran, who says not only Iran but also the rest of the Muslim world, will view it as victory for Islam” if Barack Hussein Obama wins?
Oh STOP…..my side is hurting, I must stop laughing.
And Chas…..you are in another meltdown, go to bed before something dreadful happens to you you like a spontaneous combustion.
Chas we aren’t saved by works so that no man can boast but are indeed saved by grace.
We are however called to task for our words and actions I believe as it says in Matt 12:36. I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give an account for every thoughtless word they have uttered.
All snideness aside this is my belief and I think we will receive stars in our crowns in heaven because of the good deeds we do for mankind. 2 John 1:8 says ‘Watch yourselves, that you do not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward.’
This is just between you and me and if I appear to be a hater to you please tell me what it was I said to make you feel this way.
Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 6:14 pm | Permalink
The HATE is because you LIE about what he has said, and you constantly attack his love for America…. What more do you want, wench??
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Chas can you see the difference in listening to his words and believeing them one way and me hearing the same words and feeling that he is saying something else. I have told no lies. And I really do feel that he puts our country down. I have heard him in interviews espouse these same views.
Sorry that you and I don’t agree on this. But it isn’t lies.
“BlueJay, do you seriously think I give a ‘frig’ what you think”
No. This may be the only thing we have in common.
I hope.
OK I by no mean think that Wright is right about everything. I watched him at the press club and saw the speech he gave that finally cause Obama to break his association with the church. My point I was making ir that the outrage is over a selective part of a large sermon and put in contact it is no different than what other main stream preachers were saying. I did not like what he was saying and it did not help anything he was trying to do.
I would accuse wright of trying to undermind Obama as far as that goes.
Dog I think you are right about that. When most of the damage was done I think was when he went out on his own and tried to undermine Obama. I don’t really understand his motives.
Barack Obama has said he considered joining the United States military when he left school but decided not to because the Vietnam war was over and “we weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point”.
The statement is thought to be the first time during the 19-month-long presidential campaign that the Democratic nominee for the White House has indicated he once wanted to serve in uniform.
The aspiration was not mentioned in either of his two volumes of memoirs.
Yeah right! What other line of B.S. do you think you can feed us….we’ll be waiting.
Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%. McCain enjoying increase in support following convention.
The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows John McCain moving ahead of Barack Obama, 48% to 45%, when registered voters are asked for whom they would vote if the presidential election were held today.
I guess Barack could always join the military now if this little gig doesn’t work out.
Oh Christ Boxlicker, every young male, at one time or another, has considered joining the military, even yourself.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110050/Gallup-Daily-McCain-Moves-Ahead-48-45.aspx
11 point swing in the Gallup daily tracking poll.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-07-poll_N.htm
In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote.
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hehehehehe
54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote
And just how do they determine that?
As America better knows just what kind of kook McCain picked for a running mate?
His candidacy will sink.
Flying Fish Breaks Arkansas Teen’s Jaw
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — It’s a fishing tale that packs a wallop so strong it broke the jaw of a southeastern Arkansas teen and covered him in fish blood and guts.
Seth Russell, 15, of Crossett, was cruising Lake Chicot on a large inner tube towed by a boat when a Silver Asian carp leaped from the water and smacked him in the face. Seth was knocked unconscious.
“He doesn’t remember anything at all,” the boy’s mother, Linda Russell, said last week. “He was laughing, and the next thing he remembers, he is waking in a hospital.”
The teen has had oral surgery to wire several teeth together and still experiences back pain that doctors attribute to whiplash from the high-speed collision, his mother said.
He’s not the only one who’s has a run-in with the “flying” Silver Asian carp.
“They do not fly, but they are quite good jumpers,” said Carole Engle, director of aquaculture and the fisheries center at the University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff. “Over the past year, we have had some calls about fish jumping and causing injuries on Lake Chicot.
“Their jumping behavior is a problem, and their population appears to be growing there,” Engle said.
Silver Asian carp were first imported to the United States in the 1970s. Catfish farmers brought them here to remove algae and other suspended matter from their ponds. The Environmental Protection Agency started a program allowing cities to use the fish to help clean the water in sewer treatment plant ponds.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,418404,00.html
Well, there’s something you don’t hear about everyday. :D
Interesting question, P-Mom.
http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/09/how_do_pollster_1.html
Every thing you ever wanted to know.
Saw the National Enquirer at the grocery store today.
I didn’t get a chance to read it, but they report that Sarah Palin had an affair and that the Palin family is self destructing?
Inquiring minds wait eagerly for more!
“Political_mama” asks –
“…those seen as most likely to vote
And just how do they determine that?”
That’s the BEEG issue among polling companies.
Their business is based primarily on telephone interviews; land lines. So many people have converted to cellular technologies (and cell phone numbers are relatively hard to get) especially younger demographics. That’s a strong Obama demographic.
But it’s a demographic which historically doesn’t show up on election day. If you’re 23 years old, a college graduate with a second income-producing spouse, you’re probably not categorized as a “likely” voter.
Older demographics — the ones who’ve had the same number since they stopped having Party Lines — are at home next to their 1964-model AT&T dial phone — and talk to phone pollsters just to while away the time ’til Judge Judy comes on the air. They are the base for John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term).
Different pollsters have different algorithms for weighting the people who respond to their questions. It’s proprietary information so no one — NO ONE — in the media knows how to interpret the data without a lot of speculation as to the pollsters’ well, speculations.
There’s likely been a spike about the Moose-Dresser’s convention
screedspeech. Republic Party faithful are more excited by the Vice-Presidential candidate than the top of the ticket.That’ll fade.
One More Time, OKOB >>>>
The HATE is because you LIE about what he has said, and you constantly attack his love for America. What more do you want??
Why dont you post up with the ENTIRE sermon, instead of out of context sound bytes??
THAT is a lie, to do such a thing…. To mis-quote a person intentionally is LYING…
And where have you EVER heard Dr. Wright say that he doesnt LOVE his country?? He served in the Marines, AND in the Navy… during a fairly volatile time… He could have been sent to battle areas…. He could have been killed in action… BUT… He signed up for further service….
Yet, YOU and your kind keep trying to INVENT this stupid, crazy idea that Dr. Wright hates America…. JUST A FILTHY ROTTEN RACIST LIE!!!
Hell, lady, you have even posted on this Blog that Wright is a RACIST!!! THAT is another LIE!!!
I know this man… and you expect me to sit quietly by, while a bunch of RACIST HICKS from KANSAS call him things that he ISNT???
You got another think coming!!! I will call you what you are every time you keep up this vile nonsense!!
I dont LIKE you or your kind…. My faith doesnt require me to LIKE you… However, it says I have to LOVE YOU…. since you, too, are one of God’s children….
And this is the best I can do for now, at “Speaking the truth in love” …. Also something my faith tells me to do….
Now, if you could start by stopping your filthy vile lying about this man, Wright, maybe — maybe — there could be some discussion of his views…
I am not all that hopeful… but MAYbe!!
… He could have been sent to battle areas…. He could have been killed in action…
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He could have swapping bed pans in the VIP ward…
Damn, Chas.,
Are you off your meds again?
okobserver is a delightful lady! Rev. Wright is a race baiting disgrace to the ministry.
You, sir, are merely an old fool.
I know this man… and you expect me to sit quietly by, while a bunch of RACIST HICKS from KANSAS call him things that he ISNT???
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Chas knows everyone!
He knows/met Reverend Jim Jones, the Jones Town Massacre
He knows Reverend Jesse Jackson,the adulterer Minister and “Hymie Town” rodeo caller
He knows Reverend Jeremiah Wright, the “G D America” Minister of the Trinity collection point in the U.S. K.K.K. of A.
Glad I don’t know Chas, bad things happen to people he knows.
“okobserver is a delightful lady! ”
Much in the vein of Sarah Palin I would guess.
Or Cruella Deville.
Hey Hank? HLP, HDchaplain, American way?
Go get one of your many other nics.
Puts you in good company with your pal Regular.
A few statements out of years. But you won’t address McSame’s mcC*NT statement at all. You won’t address his affairs, his temper tantrums, his flip flops. You’re all hypocrites of the highest order.
You forgot ‘anti’.
nitwit
Hank posted September 7, 2008 at 10:11 pm
“okobserver is a delightful lady! ”
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okobserver believes that 1.5 MILLION acres of land is a “little 2,000 acre plot of land”.
Met a woman today who said the only reason she is voting for McCain is because he was a POW and shows stregnth and character (can’t name a thing he’s actually accomplished in the intervening years.) Some one said was what it shows is he can take a beating — I have a brother who believes it was what McCain was paid / trained to do (well he says that if it were anyone but a republican John McCain.
And my ex wife (a republican) in her hs diploma infinite wisdom has written me twice to say that Obama is going to give away everything to those blacks and mexicans (exact words) and my military retirement will be cut by 30% — And she’s not a comedian well not unitl now —- she lives in fear of those blacks and mexicans — yet she doesn’t mind if she can hire a cheap one to cut her grass or clean her house —- we should a stayed married I wouldn’t have to get cable for the contemporary humor she displays —- thats your girl cons — why don’t you nominate her to be what secretary of state ….
I think we’ve gone seventeen days in a row on this forum since any CON has offered any reason to vote FOR John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term).
Odd.
Nah Hank “ANTI” is not you.
It is someone close to you.
I only post under HLP, junior. And I can prove it.
nitwit
Could be because it is John S McCains first term. MH you really need to work on getting your facts straight.
John McCain is a much stronger candidate for national security. Obama’s lack of any kind of administrative experience is becoming very apparent. He will continue to drop in the polls as voter become more aware of this.
“I only post under HLP, junior. And I can prove it.”
Well I’m not “junior”. I don’t switch nics.
Except when I had to because you messed with the editors?
Ok, prove it.
“Ok, prove it.”
wager?
Readers should know.
I have met “HLP” or whatever else he goes by here, in person.
I’ve taken the measure of the man.
He shakes your hand, and does not look you in the eye.
Chas you have the right to believe anything you want about Rev Wright. I have that same right. Sorry I don’t agree with your view. That doesn’t make me a liar. It just means I have a different opinion.
If I were the only one in the US who believed this way then you could make the case that I am not looking at all of the facts. We know this isn’t true. Do you plan to take on the millions of voters that believe the Wright doesn’t love the US?
Sorry you and I disagree but I don’t lie.
“He shakes your hand, and does not look you in the eye.”
LOL!
It might just be you, junior! You must realize in your little demented, sorry world that a lot of the posters here have met me. Very few of them have the problems you do in accepting what a wonderful person I am.
I’m not sure whether okobserver lies or not.
She has a tendency lately to say “SO and so said this! But I’m not gonna go get their quote.”
“okobserver” alleges –
“John McCain is a much stronger candidate for national security.”
And you base this assertion on….?
So put on a cape and quit switching nics there Hank. IF you are such a loveable guy?
The stories I could tell…..
“Chas you have the right to believe anything you want about Rev Wright. I have that same right. Sorry I don’t agree with your view. That doesn’t make me a liar. It just means I have a different opinion.” [okobserver]
It makes you a LIAR when your opinion is not true, and has been debunked numerous times… including many times on this Blog… Yet you hang on to your FALSE statements….
Yea, I’d say that makes you a LIAR!!
http://www.trinitychicago.org
That web site pretty much PROVES what I am saying… but you wont read it…. But, maybe others will, and find out the truth… Some people…. even millions…. believe FALSE notions… That doesnt make them right because they believe them…
Stuff like, we didnt really go to the moon; the earth is flat; the world is only 6-8,000 years old…. People of God shouldnt use electricity or other “modern” conveniences… Lots of people (different groups) believe all of those things… Doesnt make them RIGHT…. just means they believe them…. LOL
And yea, I know…. I am just banging my head against a brick wall… BUT…. in the case of Dr. Jeremiah Wright… I KNOW that I am 100% right…. I have met the man… I know the man…. I have listened to his COMPLETE sermons…. not just 10 second sound bytes….
Can you say the same???
This is a NEW story…. NYT today….
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/science/earth/07arctic.html?ref=environment
“You must realize in your little demented, sorry world that a lot of the posters here have met me. Very few of them have the problems you do in accepting what a wonderful person I am.”
While you are proving that you do not switch nics?
Name 4 posters here who accept what a wonderful person you are.
he’s a stronger candidate because he graduated bottom of his class, destroyed a bunch of planes in the war, and flip flopped every position he ever took.
And he offers not one iota of difference between the failed policies of neocons who hold onto their beliefs no matter the evidence before them.
Well, its been a long day…..
Good night; good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!!
Blessings on all in the paths of Hurricanes…
So mote it be!!
Junior,
I’m sure you’re a wonderful person to anyone who doesn’t mind the shower of spit you spew when you talk.
HLP posted September 7, 2008 at 10:50 pm | Permalink
“I only post under HLP, junior. And I can prove it.
nitwit”
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HLP posted September 7, 2008 at 10:59 pm | Permalink
” “Ok, prove it.”
wager?”
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If HLP (Hank) has accidently posted only once using his son’s nic, Hank loses the bet.
Prove that you haven’t done that, Hank.
Cosmos,
Are you 12?
Junior is Sylvester the spitting cat?
And Cindy McSame spent over 300,000 on her dresses for the convention alone. Less than one week. Yeah they have so much in common with me. Its no wonder we spend 4,000 on a hammer in the government.
Yet, they have no problem voting for someone to earn less than 14,000 a year and call that sufficient.
Well said political mama.
Particularly in light that the last several posters ON the right are:
“Regular” who is on government welfare. How DOES one own two houses when they are too hurt to work?
“KS Golfnut” whose parents are rich.
And of course our own kept man Hank.
Money can’t buy character. And I have met Hank, been in the same room with Golfnut, and have seen “Regular”
They are not people of character.
golfnuts,
Are you also such a “nitwit” that you make wagers that you are 100% guaranteed to lose?
Nitwit.
Nathaniel posted July 6, 2008 at 8:12 pm
“No problem, Mary!
“It’s always a blast to check in on Dave and his latest projects!”
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Nathaniel posted July 6, 2008 at 8:14 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/is-spreading-sea-ice-a-good-sign/#comment-379217
“That last post and this one were mine, (Hank) the boy was on the ‘puter in the family room and I’m too lazy to sign him out and me in.”
No wonder Steven Davis didn’t want Junior to show up.
He didn’t want JR spitting all over people’s food!
This news just in, self-identified racists not voting for Obama:
http://www.hutchnews.com/Columns/andyb7
“Asked under what conditions they would conceivably vote for a black presidential candidate, 95 percent of racists responded, ‘Only if he were running against someone from a group I hated even more, such as Arabs.’”
Those unfortunate racists (see above link) must not be reading the screeds from PFR which say Obama is an Arab.
Anybody know what happened to that fruit cake from PA that supposedly filed a lawsuit to challenge Obama being born in USA??? What a JOKE that was!!