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- By Rhonda Holman
- Posted Sept. 27, 2008 at 6:01 a.m.
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My, What Big Teeth You Had! Extinct Species Had Huge Teeth On Roof Of Mouth
ScienceDaily (Sep. 12, 2008) — When the world’s land was congealed in one supercontinent 240 million years ago, Antarctica wasn’t the forbiddingly icy place it is now. But paleontologists have found a previously unknown amphibious predator species that probably still made it less than hospitable.
The species, named Kryostega collinsoni, is a temnospondyl, a prehistoric amphibian distantly related to modern salamanders and frogs. K. collinsoni resembled a modern crocodile, and probably was about 15 feet in length with a long and wide skull even flatter than a crocodile’s.
In addition to large upper and lower teeth at the edge of the mouth, temnospondyls often had tiny teeth on the roof of the palate. However, fossil evidence shows the teeth on the roof of the mouth of the newly found species were probably as large as those at the edge of the mouth.
More at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080912075202.htm
MPunk: Wonder how K. Collonsoni avoided biting his tongue?
Your description that Mr. Collonsoni was amphibious implies that he could live on land or in the sea. Prior to about 350 million years ago, the earth did not have enough oxygen to support life outside of the water but by 240 million years ago, amphibians and reptiles were thriving.
Wichita wouldn’t have been very hospitable to WE Bloggers or EAGLE opinion writers.
Here ya go Granny Goodwitch…. Just like Linda posted way up thread >>>>
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2008206960_opin27borowitz.html
Let me guess, Seattle Times is too liberal for you?? ROFL!!!
Just for MAX, the faker, and AmWay, the double speak freak >>>>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22TV+-+Radio+With+Pictures%22&aq=f&oq=
And just because the Cubs and Rays won their divisions… Check this… Baseball telecast to the New York World’s Fair….
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Article Excerpt
Byline: Tom Jicha Special to TelevisionWeek
Baseball and television didn’t exactly go together like hot dogs and cold beer when the new medium took fans out to the ballgame for the first time on Aug. 26, 1939. At that time, baseball was already established as America’s national pastime
But TV-”radio with pictures” -was considered a novelty, something to amuse patrons at the New York World’s Fair, going on a few miles from Brooklyn’s Ebbets Field, where the Dodgers were taking on the Cincinnati Reds.
That first televised game utilized two cameras-a main one high above home plate, with another down the third base line primarily picking up infield throws to first. It was a far cry from the two dozen or so cameras-stationary, hand-held and robotic, on the field, in the stands and in blimps above the stadium-that Fox used for this season’s All-Star Game and will use again for the World Series.
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-788635/When-TV-Came-to-the.html
HAVE YOU HEARD THE MAJOR NETWORKS AND NEWS PAPERS SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?
Explosive Video, Fannie Mae CEO calling Obama and the Dems the “Family” and “Conscience” of Fannie Mae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
Burning Down The House
what happened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o
For what it’s worth, Political Wire compiled some reactions / opinions on last night’s debate. I imagine we all watched and none of our opinions changed.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/09/27/the_first_presidential_debate.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o&eurl=http://www.powerlineblog.com/
Better link for Burning down the house.
Palin not well liked by women in Alaska…
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/rally.asp#photo2
Good link!!
bj…so much for your gleeful enjoyment of the stocks nosediving yesterday. The Dow closed UP over 120. I know that is disappointing to you, after all, millions more people didn’t lose on their pension funds, much to your dismay.
It is clear to me that Bush/McCain do not pay their own bills which keeps Bush/McCain out of touch with reality. Nuke Power is the most expensive electric energy source in america and far from being clean,green or affordable.
http://www.tradewatch.org/cmep/energy_enviro_nuclear/nuclear_power_plants/articles.cfm?ID=9720
Too slow
Nuclear power stations take anywhere from 10 to 15 years to build. We can’t wait this long to address climate change.
Too expensive
The Rocky Mountain Institute estimates that a dollar spent on energy efficiency is seven times more effective at reducing greenhouse emissions than nuclear power. Nuclear is still the most expensive means of boiling water ever devised.
Too dirty
Routine emissions, high level waste and millions of tonnes of radioactive tailings as well as inevitable greenhouse pollution: nuclear power has never been clean and green.
Too dangerous
As reactors age and more are built in unstable parts of the world, the risk of a catastrophic meltdown is increasing. The world can not afford more Chernobyls.
If McCain was truly interested in restoring the USA economy he would not continue to support our very expensive and illegal occupation of Iraq. Iraq was not involved in 9/11/01 nor did Iraq have WMD’s.
If Bush and McCain had demanded that the USA not invade and occupy Iraq without absolute hard evidence
our econony would be far more substantial. Germany has declared the USA is no longer considered a economic superpower.
Bush and McCain should have invested $3 triillion in the USA NOT war!
Why?
Invasion war is a money hole with zero payback. Hitler taught us that.
Just think if polticians such as McCain and Bush had spent $3 trillion on healthcare for all,alternative energy and the the green industry the USA would be making money off the new jobs the money created thus new wealth for the USA not bankruptcy.
Add a stiff excise tax on all USA named imports made in China then the USA would be rolling in the dough!
When Castro nationalized the Cuban sugar industry, American shareholders (the owners) had their equity wiped out as well. Socialism is tough on capitalists.
Perhaps the quick-buck boys on Wall St. should have thought about this before now.It happened to the oil boys and girls as well. So we send our expensive military in to tell other governments,Iran and Iraq, they cannot do business as they see fit.
Fact is that is a risk corporate america must assume when investing abroad. Stockholders must ALSO assume that risk when investing in corporations that invest abroad. The military should not be used as the Wall Street Protection Service.
Good Luck Richard Crowson in your new job. You will be missed. You did a good job with the cartoons.
Well isn’t this pretty? Obama and his band of brothers at ACORN (aka: the organization convicted in half a dozen states of voter fraud and registering dead people to vote) will garner 20% of the profits from the 700 billion bailout plan.
Isn’t it wonderful? A very left wing political action group becomes a quasi-government agency and recipient of tax payer funding.
True or not it serves well to illustrate my point: THE TAXPAYER WILL NOT SEE A PENNY COME BACK FROM ANY OF THE PROPOSALS TO BAILOUT WALLSTREET.
The money will go to whatever pet projects the party in power endorses. Redistribution of wealth under the guise of social engineering. The cons would give it to rich fat cats. The libs would give it to their own fat cats, who claim to help the poor.
Either way: Unless the bill has the revenue produced from each bailout item coming back to individual taxpayers as a percentage – THERE IS NO TRUTH TO THE STATEMENTS MADE BY BOTH PARTIES THAT THERE WILL BE A RETURN FOR THE TAXPAYER.
That, people is a lie.
sunflower5,
Is Richard Crowson gone too?
Oh happy day….if that’s true.
Please link to info. on that.
And isn’t this rich: Congress to bailout the US Automakers to the tune of 25 billion dollars in loans, but will still cost the taxpayer estimates of 7 billion.
So nature does not run her course. Unprofitable businesses, which are going broke because they build big gas-guzzling pickups, SUV’s, and enviromentally UNfriendly vehicles, gets paid by the taxpayer to keep building big polluting cars!
And yes, I guess America is rich! We must have money trees hidden in some secret location.
Wow, libs must be really really confused by this one.
“Tax Break Bill gains approval in the Senate”
Cost: Another 100 billion (but not really, we are talking tax cuts which reduce revenue. but libs like to call them breaks.)
Renews tax breaks for businesses and individuals. Protects the upper middle class and above from AMT.
Said the leading democrat:
“The economy is struggling,” Senate Finacne Committee Chairman Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana. “At times like THESE, Americans NEED TAX CUTS that they’ve come to count on, that can help them get by.”
Isn’t that liberal blasphemy?
Tax cuts leading to prosperity?
It was not government DEregulation which got us into the financial mess – it was government REgulation. It was liberals trying their social experiment on the nation. It was liberals talking as if “home ownership” was a fundamental RIGHT under the constitution.
“The Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, a Carter-era law that purported to prevent “redlining” – denying mortgages to black borrowers – by pressuring banks to make home loans in “low- and moderate-income neighborhoods.” Under the act, banks were to be graded on their attentiveness to the “credit needs” of “predominantly minority neighborhoods.” The higher a bank’s rating, the more likely that regulators would say yes when the bank sought to open a new branch or undertake a merger or acquisition.
1995: The Clinton Administration’s regulatory revisions with an effective starting date of January 31, 1995 were credited with substantially increasing the number and aggregate amount of loans to small businesses and to low- and moderate-income borrowers for home loans. Part of the increase in home loans was due to increased efficiency and the genesis of lenders, like Countrywide, that do not mitigate loan risk with savings deposits as do traditional banks using the new subprime authorization. This is known as the secondary market for mortgage loans.
2003: the Bush Administration recommended what the NY Times called “the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.” This change was to move governmental supervision of two of the primary agents guaranteeing subprime loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under a new agency created within the Department of the Treasury. However, it did not alter the implicit guarantee that Washington will bail the companies out if they run into financial difficulty; that perception enabled them to issue debt at significantly lower rates than their competitors. The changes were generally opposed along Party lines and eventually failed to happen. Representative Barney Frank(D-MA) claimed of the thrifts “These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” Representative Mel Watt (D-NC) added “I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing.”
‘’These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,’’ said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ‘’The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.’’
Boxlox – KAKE TV reported it and he has a new website up. http://www.richardcrowson.com
But maybe that was the plan all along. Tempt the greedy bastards into making home loans to idiots and those “less fortunate” and then wait for them to belly up.
Enter the white knight GOVERNMENT (soon to be black knight)to save the day. Like Mighty Mouse the government saves America from themselves, by buying up all these failed companies. Fanny and Freddy are now quasi-government agencies, but not quasi in management: Government has complete control.
Complete control over the US housing market.
Now, the government can decide WHO gets to own a home, an apartment, a condo, or a beach house. Soon, great tower cities will grow in the urban areas, and simple identically shaped square homes will dot the rural landscape. Sorta like you see in Moscow, Peking, or Pyongyang.
The circle is complete.
And since big brother will have a stake in the US auto industry: WE can have a “Peoples Car”.
“Is Richard Crowson gone too?
Oh happy day….if that’s true.”
You sad thing.
What DO you read for enlightenment and humor, sales projections?
And yes, democrats are truly supporting all of this.
We will have true Trickle Down economics once the plan is in place.
“What DO you read for enlightenment and humor, sales projections?”
Sometimes BlueJay, and then I get off my ass and go out and make them happen much of the time.
That’s more than anyone can say of you. Maybe if you would think more about work and advancing you position and your family’s instead of your own “enlightenment and humor” you might do better for yourself and your son. Besides, you certainly have failed to become enlightened and you aren’t humorous either.
And THANKS ’sunflower5′, I’ll take a look at that.
I found it on the McClaskey site as well.
Era of U.S. financial dominance at an end: Germany
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080925/ts_nm/us_financial_germany_steinbruecknews
I say the world is tired of the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. War is a liability not an investment aka money hole not supported by the world.
About the USA financial scandal:
Fraud is against the law no matter what.
Prosecution and jail time is the answer.
WESTPORT, Conn. – Paul Newman, the Academy-Award winning superstar who personified cool as the anti-hero of such films as “Hud,” “Cool Hand Luke” and “The Color of Money” — and as an activist, race car driver and popcorn impresario — has died. He was 83.
If we don’t have a bail out plan by the 12th, the market will crash.
If we don’t have a bail out plan by the 15th, the market will crash.
If we don’t have a bail out plan by the 19th, the market will crash.
Well, the market is still alive. Lets just keep putting it off:-b
Horrible news pre
SolDevVB,
It reminds me of the AGW chicken littles like cosmos:
If we don’t act now, it will be too late!(5 years ago)
If we don’t act now, it will be too late!(3 years ago)
If we don’t act now, it will be too late!(1 years ago)
If we don’t act now, it will be too late!(Today)
Amen Nathan.
The stock market was up yesterday just like temps are down for 07-08
The editorial comment and humor in Richard Crowson’s cartoons will be greatly missed. Although not always on the same side of local issues, Mr. Crowson was always a gentleman in person. I recall when he gave a humorous speech to the WIBA monthly meeting less than a year ago.
I just put the Crowson website on my computer favorites list along with former EAGLE opinion writer, Dave Knadler.
As I drove by the Wichita EAGLE building at 6:30 AM Friday morning, I noticed what appeared to be an EAGLE employee sleeping there on that steel bench on Douglas before going to the Beacon cafe for morning coffee. Perhaps it’s a Wichita EAGLE tradition.
Now I wonder who else is gone and/or going? Shades of 1929.
OOops, McCain needs to go sit in the “naughty corner”:
http://blondesforobama.com/2008/09/27/john-go-sit-in-the-naughty-corner/
CBS apologizes for David (Dummy) Letterman.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09262008/tv/mad_about_letterman_130739.htm
Nathaniel posted September 27, 2008 at 10:35 am
“SolDevVB,
It reminds me of the AGW chicken littles like cosmos:
If we don’t act now, it will be too late!(5 years ago)
If we don’t act now, it will be too late!(3 years ago)
If we don’t act now, it will be too late!(1 years ago)
If we don’t act now, it will be too late!(Today)”
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Actually, we may have already passed the “tipping point”.
And again, what were those “multiple valid reasons” for McCain to weasel out of last nights debate?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/debate-is-back-on/#comment-433087
Cosmos,
If we already passed the tipping point then it is too late.
So why bother?
Humorist Andy Borowitz is author of “The Republican Playbook.” To find out more about Borowitz and read his past columns, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at http://www.creators.com
2008, Creators Syndicate
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Chas
Posted September 27, 2008 at 6:31 am | Permalink
Here ya go Granny Goodwitch…. Just like Linda posted way up thread >>>>
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2008206960_opin27borowitz.html
Let me guess, Seattle Times is too liberal for you?? ROFL!!!
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In other economic news, President Bush announced another massive bailout today, saying that he had completed a deal for China to buy the United States in its entirety.
“This was a difficult deal to pull off,” Bush acknowledged. “The hard part was identifying the parts of the United States that China didn’t already own.”
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Chass you intellectual challenged idiot. The man is a ‘humorist’. He thinks he is funny. In the same column he references the deal where Bush sold the US to China. Did that happen?
You really belong in the category with BJ. So I will give you the same preferential treatment I am giving him.
You Chass gramppy badwitch idiot.
B**ch!!!
I dont much care who Borowitz is… Thats funny no matter who you are!!
Granny says, surprisingly >>>>
“Chass you intellectual challenged idiot. The man is a ‘humorist’. He thinks he is funny. In the same column he references the deal where Bush sold the US to China. Did that happen?”
Ummmm i dont think y9ou REALLY want me to answer that one do you?? Do you REALLY???
Well, here goes…. YEP!!!
American_Way
Posted September 27, 2008 at 8:23 am | Permalink
Either way: Unless the bill has the revenue produced from each bailout item coming back to individual taxpayers as a percentage – THERE IS NO TRUTH TO THE STATEMENTS MADE BY BOTH PARTIES THAT THERE WILL BE A RETURN FOR THE TAXPAYER.
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If there was much profit to be made from this $700 Billion+ bailout Amway, why would these Banks need a bailout?
The Gubernment tis simply lying to us, AGAIN.
Let some of the banks fail, let the investors take the hit, let the recession hit for 12 months, then we’ll get over it faster then it will take to pay off the $700+ Billion Bailout plus interest.
Ya think Government will EVER pay off the Debt? Heck no.
The Government will proceed with this bailout and others soon to come. The dollar will become almost worthless, interest rates & inflation will rise, jobs will be lost, and we’ll have 10+ years of a Great Depression.
For 6 to 12 months though, things will seem all rosy.
Chass you thought this was a factual new story and McCain has actually said those things. Don’t try to deny it. You are incredible gullible. Funny is as funny does. You are indeed funny but the column was stupid.
Chass you really need to get a checkup for that tourettes and those stroke symptoms are really messing your typing up.
Maybe you and McCain have a lot in common. Oh no, he was wounded defending his country and you were wounded defending yourself.
Sorry!
Nathaniel posted September 27, 2008 at 3:50 pm
“If we already passed the tipping point then it is too late.
So why bother?”
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To keep things from being even worse in the future.
Again, what were those “multiple valid reasons” for McCain to weasel out of last nights debate?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/debate-is-back-on/#comment-433087
And the Feds grab Washington Mutual overnight, just as an additional scare tactic to get the people in a panic to approve the Fed’s Plan now!
You stupid sheeple buy this crap?
The Fed caused this crisis! Now we are going to listen to them, given them more power and more money so that they can solve the problem?
Damn, Americans are stupid!
In the wee hours of the morning, under the cover of Darkness, the Fed POUNCED on WAMU:
U.S. seizes WaMu; Chase to buy S & L
Tribune reporter Becky Yerak and Tribune news services contributed to this report. | New York Times News Service
September 26, 2008
Washington Mutual, the giant lender that came to symbolize the excesses of the mortgage boom, was seized by federal regulators on Thursday night in an 11th-hour bid to prevent the largest bank failure in American history.
Regulators simultaneously brokered an emergency sale of virtually all of Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. to JPMorgan Chase & Co. The remainder of WaMu, the nation’s largest savings and loan, will be operated by the government. Shareholders and some bondholders will be wiped out.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-fri_banks-chasesep26,0,3565624.story
If Congress doesn’t reach a deal by Tuesday, I predict that either National City or Wachovia will be the next VICTIMS of a Fed takeover.
The Feds are working very hard to rapidly shove this bailout down the throats of taxpayers, and sometimes Government has to play hardball in order to Control the People, using Fear tactics when it is convenient to do so.
Approximately a year ago our mortgage was sold by WaMu to Wells Fargo. I told my husband then that they had a cash flow problem. You don’t sell off your good paper unless you need cash fast.
Our paper brought them more money because in all of the years we have been with them we had no late or missing payments. You can sell those for top dollars. The good thing about them is that they are also the least amount of risk for the lender. Lower interest rates because these people have good credit scores. Even then the problem was hitting critical mass. I posted at the time that we were looking at a giant meltdown in the mortgage industry.
What this left the lenders with were high risk borrowers. The ones who can’t or won’t pay their bills. Now those bad borrowers want a bailout with no penalties. I’m not letting the lenders off the hook because they went into this with their eyes wide open. The higher risk was worth it for them. The execs who were paid bonuses on a percentage of loans written were raking in the dough.
We need to consider this for a while. No quick fix. No deals for ACORN or other dishonest and risky groups. Don’t be in a hurry. Make a good deal.
Max I read an obscure little article this week about the fact that the FDIC is running out to cash to bail out bank failures. That is frightening. The first person that goes to a bank and told they have to wait for their cash will start a bank run the likes of which we haven’t seen since the great depression. Part of this bailout is too strengthen the FDIC.
Asia Food Tainting Spreads, Leading to Recall in U.S.
BEIJING — Two weeks after Chinese companies began recalling infant milk formula because of contamination by an industrial chemical, foods tainted with that chemical — melamine — are turning up in other parts of China and Asia, fanning fears in other parts of the world.
In Hong Kong, Heinz Foods this week recalled its vegetable formula baby cereal after some samples of it tested positive for melamine. In Taiwan, Pizza Hut said it had found cheese packets similarly contaminated. Officials in Macao, a Chinese territory, said Friday that the chemical had turned up in koala-shaped cookies made by a Japanese-owned company. And several African nations moved to ban imports of Chinese dairy products this week.
In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration said Friday that some instant coffee and tea drinks, all containing a nondairy creamer made in China, had been recalled for fear of contamination. It is the first recall in the United States growing out of the melamine scare.
more at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/27/world/asia/27recall.html?em
Even mortgage relief for foreclosures, won’t mean that people get their house free, just the financing terms would be modified, they’d still have to qualify for the payments.
What’s wrong with that? Is it better to have the govt. buy it for premium price and auction it off at a discount?
A few more failures and people will be making runs on their banks, creating more failures.
Last week my father in law was at BoA, he commented to the loan officer how busy it was, she said it’d been like that most of the week with people opening accounts for deposits.
A few more failures and people will be making runs on their banks, creating more failures.
she said it’d been like that most of the week with people opening accounts for deposits.
Did you miss the contradiction of this?
It’s really starting to look like Obama is just another Fascist Chicago thug politician.
Change? Like Chicago?
Is Chicago style thug politics the kind of change we can expect people?
And the kind of politics you Lefties really want?
Don’t answer that B.Job.
They were pulling money out of other banks, perceiving boa as going to be one of the survivors, what contradiction?
“For their part, the Democrats are emerging as the new party of the rich, the party of Wall Street, the party that champions financiers at the expense of producers. For years now, the most affluent precincts in the country—mostly on the two coasts—have been solidly Democratic. And in 2008, the polls show that upper-income voters mostly support Barack Obama. And Obama, of course, guided by the likes of Robert Rubin, has been quietly supportive of the deal. Indeed, Obama personally epitomizes the Democrats’ new political arrangement: He was raised mostly poor, then worked mostly with the poor, but now he is rich and works mostly with the rich—his campaign is a well-financed corporation. Yet he has maintained his popularity with the poor. For their part, the Republicans now represent the majority of middle-income voters—Main Street. But the Democrats, with their political pincer movement, from the rich above and the poor below, have the clear electoral advantage in 2008.
So it’s understandable that the Democrats would want to take care of “their” people at the top. That’s the revised Democratic model: The same old socialism for the poor, of course, in the form of the bureaucratic welfare state, and a new kind of socialism for the rich, in the form of this bailout.”
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/26/jpinkerton_0926-2/
Ummmm — IF I had a bank account at BOA, or any other bank, last week, for — say — $300,000…. You better bet I would be into my bank, to open TWO new accounts… for, oh say, $100,000 EACH?? Sure would keep those bank folks hopping…. All of those new “protected, insured” accounts!!
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As to an off the wall comment upthread….
Last I knew, ACORN(sleazy as it is) is a Non-Profit group. Also, last I knew, organizations like ACORN would have NO reason to be part of this “Bailout”…. So, I have no clue as to what that “off the wall” comment is about… unless it is intended to be some sort of racial slur!!
“Amen” to that Phantom!!
It’s the Repubs. saying they won’t vote for a deal that helps stave off foreclosures.
“That being said, this section proves that the Democrats in Congress have learned nothing from this financial collapse. They still want to game the market to pick winners and losers by funding programs for unqualified and marginally-qualified borrowers to buy houses they may not be able to afford — and that’s the innocent explanation for this clause.
The real purpose of section D is to send more funds to La Raza and ACORN through housing welfare, via the slush fund of the HTF. They want to float their political efforts on behalf of Democrats with public money, which was always the purpose behind the HTF. They did the same thing in April in the first bailout bill, setting aside $100 million in “counseling” that went in large part to ACORN and La Raza, and at least in the former case, providing taxpayer funding for a group facing criminal charges in more than a dozen states for fraud.
It’s bad enough that taxpayers have to pay the price for Congress’ decade-long distortions of the lending and investment markets. If we realize a profit from the bailout, that money should go to pay down the debt or get returned to taxpayers as dividends from their investment — not to organizations committing voter fraud, and not to restarting the entire cycle of government meddling in lending markets. I’d support a rational bailout package, but anything that funds the HTF needs to get stopped.”
Rascism is such an easy word for some and doing research is almost impossible for others.
If I had any significant amount in a bank I thought might get seized, I’d pull it out so it wouldn’t be tied up for a couple yrs. trying to get it.
Counterfeiting another nation’s legal tender is not only a crime – it is also an act of aggression. During World War II, Adolf Hitler produced British bank notes to destabilize England. Mao Tse Tung used phony money to undermine Chaing Kai Shek’s Nationalist government through inflation. The Soviets created passable replicas of African, European and other monetary instruments to damage local economies. But no one has ever engaged in this kind of economic warfare against the United States on a scale – or as effectively – as is now being waged by the regimes in Pyongyang and Tehran.
For more than five years remarkably accurate duplicates of U.S. $100 bills have been circulating overseas. Called “Supernotes” by our Treasury Department, Secret Service and FBI, they are printed on cotton-fiber paper using intaglio printing presses, the same type used by the U.S. Bureau of Printing and Engraving. The source of these nearly flawless notes is hardly a secret.
On January 26, 2006 in a White House press conference, President Bush asserted that, “We are aggressively saying to the North Koreans…don’t counterfeit our money.” A Congressional Research Service Report two months later concluded that, “at least $45 million in such Supernotes of North Korean origin have been detected in circulation, and estimates are that the country earns from $15 to $25 million per year from counterfeiting.” Later that year, Hezbollah – a wholly owned subsidiary of the repressive regime in Tehran – began flooding Lebanon with Supernotes. Thanks to Iran and North Korea there may be billions in “phony Franklins” floating around the world. The bills have also turned up here at home.
Just how some of them arrived on our shores was revealed a few days ago – when former undercover FBI Agent Bob Hamer took the witness stand in the Las Vegas courtroom of U.S. District Court Judge James Mahan. While the so-called mainstream media were preoccupied with presidential politics, the Wall Street meltdown and the O.J. Simpson trial across the street, Hamer – using audio and video recordings – revealed how two Chinese nationals and others plotted to smuggle anti-aircraft missiles, narcotics and counterfeit Supernotes into the United States. On the tapes, the Chinese conspirators describe how the false bills are manufactured in North Korea and distributed through the Russian embassy in Beijing to Chinese organized crime figures. One of them boasts of his ties to North Korea.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429041,00.html
okobserver
Posted September 27, 2008 at 7:12 pm | Permalink
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You list NO resource, and NO link… I call BS, on funding ACORN or LaRaza, with any funds from the $700 Billion deal now before Congress…
PUT up, or SHUT up!!
Once again, “Amen” Phantom!!
Even CONservatives raise concerns >>>>
From Kathleen Parker:
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/republican-concerns-about-palin-grow/192226?icid=200100397×1210514473x1200625287
Another ouchie for Obama from the Missouri Governor.
http://governor.mo.gov/cgi-bin/coranto/viewnews.cgi?id=EkkkVFulkpOzXqGMaj&style=Default+News+Style&tmpl=newsitem
Chas
Posted September 27, 2008 at 8:31 pm | Permalink
okobserver
Posted September 27, 2008 at 7:12 pm | Permalink
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You list NO resource, and NO link… I call BS, on funding ACORN or LaRaza, with any funds from the $700 Billion deal now before Congress…
PUT up, or SHUT up!!
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My God Chas. You can’t even cite the source for some BS Radio show you heard the other day.
If YOU can’t read the news yourself and verify the ACORN benefit from the $700+++ Billion Bailout, then you have NO CREDIBILITY to even post on this issue.
Chas, until you can do your own research, AND CITE YOUR SOURCES, you have ZERO credibility on this blog for ANYTHING that you say.
And based on the LIES you have made in the past, you had better start posting several credible links to ANYTHING you expect others to believe from this point forward.
Have a nice evening blowing yourself into an ALL CAP IDIOTIC TIRADE.
Ummmmm the $700 Billion Bailout has not yet even PASSED Congress!!
As I said before, PUT up or SHUT up!!
As for the radio news??? Max, I swear you are almost as bad at reading as your right hand Wench…. I POSTED THE NEWS NETWORKS I HEARD ABOUT WAMU ON YESTERDAY!!
It isnt MY problem, if you didnt READ what I posted ast least TWICE yesterday….
You can shut up too, no good bastard!!!Q
Ooops… sorry — I didnt mean to talk about your mother!! LOL!!
SolDevVB
Posted September 27, 2008 at 6:55 pm | Permalink
So it’s understandable that the Democrats would want to take care of “their” people at the top. That’s the revised Democratic model: The same old socialism for the poor, of course, in the form of the bureaucratic welfare state, and a new kind of socialism for the rich, in the form of this bailout.”
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/26/jpinkerton_0926-2/
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It was so sad and so humorous the other day, when JR got so pissed off at this $700+++ Bailout for the Rich that HIS Democrat Party was trying to push through.
I asked JR how it felt to have Government give away Taxpayer Money to people who didn’t EARN it!
I don’t recall seing a reply to my question.
The only LIES I post here, are the ones you carry around in your terribly disabled BRAIN!! DimWit!!
Chas
Posted September 27, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink
You can shut up too, no good bastard!!!Q
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You proved my point Chas. Thanks.
Chas
Posted September 27, 2008 at 3:57 pm | Permalink
B**ch!!!
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Chas brother, can I get an “AMEN!” on that?
fWell, it seems the RIGHT WINGERS have jumped the pooch yet AGAIN!!! Read this, you nincompoops!!
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/09/26/acorn_bailout/index.html?source=rss&aim=/politics/war_room
okobserver
Posted September 27, 2008 at 4:44 pm | Permalink
Max I read an obscure little article this week about the fact that the FDIC is running out to cash to bail out bank failures. That is frightening. The first person that goes to a bank and told they have to wait for their cash will start a bank run the likes of which we haven’t seen since the great depression. Part of this bailout is too strengthen the FDIC.
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Hmmm….
How many years of collecting FDIC premiums without paying for hardly any losses?
The FSLIC and the Government bailed out and bought out the S & L’s.
The FDIC and the NCUA insure the Banks and the Credit Unions, respectively.
Where’d all the FDIC & NCUA premium money go to?
This Bailout is a planned scheme to have the Government take over our Financial Industry. Car manufacturing and Airlines will be next.
Then YOUR industry where YOU are employed will be after that.
Pretty soon, we’ll have a nice little Communist Economic structure here, which is exactly what the Radical Leftists Libs on this blog desire.
So they should not be complaining about this bailout of the rich, at all.
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen
Sing it over
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen
See the little baby
Wrapped in a manger on Christmas morning
singing in the temple
Talking with the elders
Tomorrow there’s wisdom
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen
Hallelujah
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen
Down at the Jordan
John was baptizing and saving all sinners
See him at the seaside
Talking with the fisherman
And made them disciples
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen
Keep on pushin now
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen
Hallelujah now
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen
McClatchy newspaper deep in debt. The lib Wichita Eagle is part of this group. I don’t feel sorry for them.
http://www.sacbee.com/103/story/1269672.html
Maybe McClatchy can hold out a tin cup, and get a Government Bailout?
Dont forget max, they are going to come and get you and your guns, and take you away to those camps that the UN people in blue helmets built all over the country, and they will re-program your thinking, until you agree with them, and bow down, and say YES SIR!!!
Hurry Max, grab your guns…. hug your Bibles… and LIE like hell about people you disagree with!!
(Well, at least you got part of the scheme working for ya already!!) LOL
george posted September 27, 2008 at 8:46 pm
“Another ouchie for Obama from the Missouri Governor.”
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More like an “ouchie” for Gov. Blunt.
‘Blunt, GOP say Obama ‘truth squad’ seeks to squash free speech with police power
Democrats: It’s a manufactured controversy‘
http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080927/BLOGS09/80927018
“…
Donatelli said prosecutors don’t normally join campaign truth squads because their mere presence as a campaign attack dog “has a chilling affect on people’s rights of free speech.”
But a review of McCain’s own truth squads shows he has a district attorney from New Mexico and the South Carolina attorney general ready to respond to misleading ads from Obama and Democrats in their respective states.
Democrats maintain the GOP has twisted the context of a news report to manufacture this controversy.
“It is the height of absurdity that Governor Blunt would try to deceive voters about the role of respected Missourians across the state who want to see this election be about the truth, not false attacks like the ones we’ve seen today,” said Justin Hamilton, spokesman for Obama’s Missouri campaign. “It’s clear why Missouri voters are rejecting the kind of campaign that they’re running.” “
“The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself” — FDR (First Inaugural Address, 1932)
ooops — 1933
OUCH! Operating Expenses are MORE THEN DOUBLE the amount of Revenues! Turn out the lights baby! (And they are still considering paying Dividends!)
http://media.mcclatchy.com/smedia/2008/03/26/19/2007AnnualReportFinal.source.prod_affiliate.32.pdf
FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS
in thousands except per share amounts 2007* 2006* % change
FOR THE YEAR 2007
Net revenues $2,260,363
Operating expenses 4,826,315
Income (loss) from continuing operations (2,726,609)
Those McCalatchy financials are some of the worst I’ve ever seen.
You think it’s funny Chas that Government is right now taking over much of the banking assets in the country?
It’s happening right now, and you are too blind and stupid to see it.
Go ahead, make all the jokes you want about it. Funny as an obituary isn’t it?
Chas
Posted September 27, 2008 at 9:50 pm | Permalink
“The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself” — FDR (First Inaugural Address, 1932)
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Tell that to the troops who fought around the world in WWII Chas. Tell them they had nothing to fear. Tell the troops on Iwo Jima and Normandy Beech they had nothing to fear Chas. Go ahead. I’m sure it will make their day.
But hurry, the WWII vets are rapidly dying off.
Oh and Chas, tell me why FDR abandoned the troops in the Philaphines.
Why did he abdandon thousands of US troops and US citizens there?
Tell me Chas, what did FDR tell those people who went on the Bataan Death march about having nothing to fear?
Tell me Chas, please, how did FDR ‘comfort’ the troops he abandonded?
Yes!
YES!
Government IN TO business. Business OUT of government.
Oh and Chas, those POW’s from Bataan who were taken in ships back to Japan, tell me Chas, how FDR told them how they had nothing to fear from going for days without food and water while sitting in the bottom of freighter ships like cargo, in the heat and humidity of the tropics.
Tell me Chas, did FDR comfort those who turned into vampires in order to survive their little boat ride?
Did FDR comfort those who did not turn into vampires, but willingly sacrificed themselves so others could live?
Where was FDR for them Chas?
Say Chas, tell me how FDR comforted those on the beaches of Iwo Jima about having nothing to fear.
Those who died wading to shore, did they have anything to fear?
Those who swam over the bodies of their buddies who died offshore, did they have anything to fear?
Those who made it to the beach and died there, did they have anything to fear?
Those who swam over and crawled over their buddies who died offshore and on the beach Chas, did they have anything to fear?
Chas, your cute lil quotes from FDR aren’t so comforting to those who truly are suffering.
Just words Chas.
Actions speak louder then words.
And the actions of our Government today are clearly those of a Government taking over private businesses.
And while you Chas, and JR, and other Marxists stand up and cheer, you are too stupid to realize the Freedom YOU and others are losing, when Government takes over.
Stand up and Chear! Wave your lil Red Flags Chas & JR.
You have nothing to fear, but fear itself.
BlueJay laughs at “Max”.
‘Tweets’ fuel Obama fan club
The cool crowd at the New York club didn’t have to wait for the result of their hero Barack Obama’s debate with John McCain – bloggers were already doing the job.
“We’re educated people, professionals, people with passports, people who are published,” said writer Christopher Boswell, 37. “McCain is much too much out of touch. Obama connects.”
A huge cheer came when McCain attacked his opponent for having “the most liberal voting record in the US Senate.” That, to the Galapagos crowd, was the greatest possible compliment.
When McCain later returned to what opponents consider the overly repeated story of his captivity in the Vietnam War, the Galapagos crowd jeered with even greater force.
The young Obama-ites told AFP that after eight years of President George W. Bush, they want someone formed by their world, not that of the Cold War, and they want someone to improve their country’s image.
“We want someone we can identify with, someone who makes us proud,” said Barbara Cleveland, 24, a website photo editor.
Ian Bourland, a 26-year-old history professor with a thick beard and glasses, joked: “We just want someone who can read and write.”
more at:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/tweets-fuel-obama-fan-club/2008/09/27/1222540223038.html
Cosmos,
A tipping point is passing a point of irreversible change.
You said we have passed the tipping point.
There should be nothing we can do now. Game over.
So, no point in talking about AGW anymore.
More lumps wash up on Kapiti Coast
By KAY BLUNDELL – The Dominion Post | Wednesday, 24 September 2008
ROLL UP: Shopkeeper Sue Wilkie with the lard-like lump she and her dog found on Waikanae Beach. The discovery comes after wild speculation about the nature of a similar lump at Wellington’s Breaker Bay.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4703332a11.html
Cosmos,
Also, McCain made it to the debate, thus he didn’t weasel out of the debate.
Max, WHY do you keep LYING??? Is it like a disease and you cant help it???
Please show ANYWHERE that I have said I am in favor of this stupid Bailout??
FIND IT MAX…. But since you cant, you can just admit that you have diahrreah of the Keyboard…. That would be acceptable!!
I for one am very pleased that McCain didnt weasel out of the debate!! Took him long enough to change his mind….
Oh wait a minute…. Was that silly group photo op Friday nite a Debate??
If that was a debate, then I would say Jim Lehrer won it hands down!!
Chas,
When you refuse to admit you are ever wrong about anything, why is it that you think you have any leg to stand on in asking others to do so?
Chas, tell me how FDR comforted our troops overseas and told them they had nothing to fear but fear itself.
The survivors of Pearl Harbor, did FDR tell them they had nothing to Fear but Fear itself?
Just words.
Ummmm — FDR spoke those words LONG before WW II, Max… Thus, he never spoke those words to any of the people you just rattled off… Did your teleprompter fail to work??
Nathan, GO SUCK AN EGG!!
BlueJay sings…
Another Saturday night and Nathan aint got nobody.
If Barack Obama wants to run a campaign on rhetoric, he should at least use his own words.
That was the word from Hillary Clinton’s campaign on Monday as it accused the Illinois senator of lifting rhetoric from a speech delivered by Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick when he was running for office two years ago.
In a speech on Oct. 15, 2006, then-candidate Patrick responded to accusations that he was uttering hollow words by saying:
“‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.’ Just words? Just words? ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself.’ Just words? ‘Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.’ Just words? ‘I have a dream.’ Just words?”
Click here to watch Patrick’s Oct. 15, 2006, “Just Words?” speech.
On Saturday, speaking to the Wisconsin Democratic Party Dinner in Milwaukee, Obama echoed Patrick’s remarks almost verbatim:
“Don’t tell me words don’t matter,” Obama said. “‘I have a dream.’ Just words? ‘We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal.’ Just words? ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself.’ Just words? Just speeches?”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/18/clinton-obama-camp-exchange-war-of-just-words/
Yup,
Just Words.
Oh ok Chas.
FDR said THOSE WORDS before WWII.
So FDR was wrong. There was something to fear, and not just fear itself.
Obama’s hollow words – Hillary Clinton recognized that.
And they weren’t even his OWN words that were hollow. He can’t come up with original hollow words!
One HollowMan copying another!
And the SUCKERS take the bait:
Hook.
Line.
Sinker.
I bet “Max” jumps entertainingly when startled.
Probably he empties a whole clip of ammo and his bladder and bowels at the same time.
Actually, I have a sheep herding champion Bearded Collie and a 6 month old pesky brat of a Bearded Collie puppy right now.
I am taking care of the animals.
Thank you for your heartfelt concern though BlueJay.
Speaking of animals, I am off to check on the ducks.
I had a run in with 3 raccoons tonight. Want to make sure they are not messing with the ducks now that I took away the feed they had gotten in earlier.
Max–
Obama and Patrick are good buddies and Patrick told Obama he could borrow his speech.
It’s old news, but keep beating that dead horse.
Speaking of non-dead news, when will Sarah Palin release her tax returns?
She’ll announce that she’ll reveal them soon . . . on November 5 . . .
Nathaniel posted September 27, 2008 at 10:30 pm
“A tipping point is passing a point of irreversible change.
You said we have passed the tipping point.
There should be nothing we can do now. Game over.
So, no point in talking about AGW anymore.”
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Nope! I said,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/open-thread-927-2/#comment-433906
“Actually, we may have already passed the “tipping point”. ”
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The “tipping point” is where natural forcings start causing a strong positive feedback to AGW
At that “point”, it’s even MORE urgent that we reduce anthropogenic GHG’s, to offset the warming caused by natural forcings.
And more difficult, because we have to cut our GHG’s much more sharply.
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Nathaniel posted: “Also, McCain made it to the debate, thus he didn’t weasel out of the debate.”
Nathaniel posted earlier: “McCain has given multiple valid reasons for why he wants to postpone it, not have it at all.”
Nathaniel, WHAT were those “multiple valid reasons”? Describe how those “valid reasons” went away, allowing McCain to not weasel out of the debate.
We all know that politics are vicious. Mudslinging is all too common on all levels of the electoral scene, and the candidates use every opportunity to take jabs at each other that they can. But this year, things are out of whack in the presidential race – and it seems that Sarah Palin, the newcomer and the brightest star on the political scene, is receiving the worst treatment of any of the four candidates. And if you don’t believe that there is a liberal media bias against her, look at the following examples, especially when contrasted with Barrack Obama:
Notice that there is scarcely a negative word spoken against Obama, who has been the darling of the liberal media for quite some time. Even McCain hasn’t gotten it too bad – yet. And we hardly ever hear anything about Biden. But Sarah gets raked over the coals for just about everything. She gets criticized for her supposed lack of political experience, although she has been both a mayor AND a governor, neither of which Obama has done. (and whose political record has not received anywhere near the kind of scrunity that Sarah’s has). And Sarah has also gotten attacked for things that have NOTHING to do with her leadership abilities, like her pregnant teenage daughter and the tanning bed she bought for her house. Her words have been twisted out of proportion, vital information left out of some issues that could sway potential voters, lies and rumors have been spread about her. The liberal media hates her guts and is trying everything within their power to take her down.
If you watched Sarah’s interview with Charlie Gibson, and then watch him interview Obama, you will notice a SIGNIFICANT difference. With Obama, Charlie is friendly, pleasant, relaxed. With Sarah, Charlie fires off questions like rounds from an uzi, never even smiling at her or letting her relax for even a moment; the aired interview was also heavily edited as well. It was more like watching a Gestapo interrogation than a real interview. Thankfully, Sean Hannity did MUCH better and we got to see a little more of the real Sarah during that talk.
So why is there so much venom directed at Sarah? It’s not just because she’s a woman, because I don’t recall Hillary Clinton coming in for the same treatment. It’s because Sarah is a REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE woman, someone who doesn’t fit the typical flaming liberal feminist prototype. To be fair, there are some liberals out there who are able to disagree with Sarah’s beliefs, but are not acting like ogres toward her. But others see her as a threat to their shrine of feminism and want her out of their way.
In spite of all this, Sarah has shown an amazing amount of grace under pressure, the kind of skewering that other candidates would have buckled under long ago. I wonder how long Obama would last if he had received the kind of treatment that Sarah has, since I believe he enjoys too much being a political celebrity. People would probably be crying “Racism” if he was getting Sarah’s hard knocks. But because Sarah is a republican woman, it’s OK to do this to her?
I’m proud of having a candidate that can stand up to this kind of relentless grilling. If she can make it to Election Day in one piece, I say that Sarah Palin certainly deserves to be Vice President of the United States. This is exactly the kind of person I want in the White House – and I’m backing her all the way.
“So why is there so much venom directed at Sarah? It’s not just because she’s a woman, because I don’t recall Hillary Clinton coming in for the same treatment.”
Where have you been the last 16 years Jo Marie?
In a mine shaft?
People just like you raked Senator Hillary Clinton back and forth over the coals for YEARS.
Right wing wall banger Sean Hannity had his “stop Hillary express”.
NO woman has ever been subjected to such attack and scrutiny as Hillary Clinton.
And NOW you want to whine and cry because lil Sarah was set at the head of a road she never made and has endured 3 weeks of scrutiny?
Welcome to blogging JoMarie. I predict your time here will be shorter than Sarah Palin’s
JoMarieM
“I’m proud of having a candidate that can stand up to this kind of relentless grilling.”
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Three softball interviews (especially Hannity), and four questions from a few reporters = “relentless grilling”???
Palin didn’t even make any after debate comments.
And your thread is here,
‘For country’s sake, Palin should drop out’
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/for-countrys-sake-palin-should-drop-out/
http://www.newsweek.com/id/161218/output/print
Oops, looks like Rick Davis not only lied about having “severed all ties” with Freddie Mac, he also paid HIMSELF money for “consulting” for the McCain campaign.
“Separately, another entity created and partly owned by Davis—an Internet firm called 3eDC, whose address was the same office building as Davis Manafort’s (one of Davis’s companies)—received payments from the McCain campaign for Web services, collecting $971,860 through March 2008.”
Sweet deal. You work for a campaign and then also collect almost a million bucks for “consulting” yourself.
Don’t bother arguing with Nathan, Cosmos.
He believes that God told him not to think.
So he doesn’t.
I happen to have plenty of faith in both John McCain and Sarah Palin, and I am backing them every step of the way to the White House. I happened to have plenty of run-ins with hostile people who are doing everything in their power to villify these two, and I’m not afraid of any of them. You die-hard liberals can say all you want to, but I’m sticking to my guns and voting Republican all the way.
JoMarieM,
Go for it! Knock yourself out, for someone who explains their qualifications like this:
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Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.
Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our next-door neighbours are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of.
“, but I’m sticking to my guns and voting Republican all the way.”
Hit yourself in the head with a ball peen hammer. You get the same effect.
Looks like we got us another new sock puppet tonite…
Re: JoMarieM
DNFTT
good night; good luck; god bless —-
whatever you conceive god to be!!
blessings ALL!!
so mote it be!
OK, JMM ….
Suppose your 14 yr. old daughter comes to you and says — mom, i was raped by aunt susie’s husband, and the ept test says i am pregnant… what am i going to do? i dont want that bastard child!! help me mama!!
your call JMM….
JoMarieM
Posted September 28, 2008 at 12:01 am | Permalink
We all know that politics are vicious. Mudslinging is all too common on all levels of the electoral scene, and the candidates use every opportunity to take jabs at each other that they can. But this year, things are out of whack in the presidential race – and it seems that Sarah Palin, the newcomer and the brightest star on the political scene, is receiving the worst treatment of any of the four candidates.
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No question about it, JoMarieM. It is undeniable that the national media is in the tank for Obama, and that Palin has been treated horribly. And it is much worse at this blog, where the left wing wackos hang. The good thing is that almost no one reads it except the few regulars. And most days it just turns into an insult fest. That is why I spend less and less time here. Arguing with fools is, well, foolish.