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Some day creationism might have scientific evidence. I suppose creationists have a few billion years before the universe falls apart.
Nematode Genome Provides Insight Into Evolution Of Parasitism
ScienceDaily (Sep. 22, 2008) — Scientists at the Max Planck Institute for Developmental Biology, together with American colleagues, have decoded the genome of the Pristionchus pacificus nematode, thereby gaining insight into the evolution of parasitism.
In their work, which has recently been published in Nature Genetics, the scientists from Professor Ralf J. Sommer’s department in Tübingen, Germany, have shown that the genome of the nematode consists of a surprisingly large number of genes, some of which have unexpected functions.
These include a number of genes that are helpful in breaking down harmful substances and for survival in a strange habitat: the Pristionchus uses beetles as a hideout and as means of transport, and feeds on the fungi and bacteria that spread out on their carcasses once they have died. It thus provides the clue to understanding the complex interactions between host and parasite.
More at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080921162235.htm
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Lisa Reiss, Press Secretary
September 25, 2008 (316) 312-7777
“People Over Politics”
TIAHRT RECEIVED OVER $500,000 IN BANKING
INDUSTRY CONTRIBUTIONS
WICHITA, Kan. – Two days ago, The Center for Responsive Politics in Washington, D.C., noted that Congressman Todd Tiahrt (R-KS) received $542,631 in banking industry campaign contributions while in Congress and voted for the 1999 legislation which dramatically altered the U.S. banking industry.
The Centers’ website, http://www.opensecrets.org, listed Members of Congress who voted for the passage of the 1999 Financial Services Modernization Act (also known as the Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill) which essentially allowed for the mega-growth of the largest banks in the U.S. and their subsequent risky lending practices.
One GOP lawmaker, referring to his defiant colleagues, asked rhetorically: “For the sake of the altar of the free market system, do you accept a Great Depression?”
Things grew so heated within the caucus, the Politico reported, that “some House Republicans are saying privately that they’d rather ‘let the markets crash’ than sign on to a massive bailout.”
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
The top censored stories for 2008 from Project Censored:
# 1. Over One Million Iraqi Deaths Caused by US Occupation
# 2 Security and Prosperity Partnership: Militarized NAFTA
# 3 InfraGard: The FBI Deputizes Business
# 4 ILEA: Is the US Restarting Dirty Wars in Latin America?
# 5 Seizing War Protesters’ Assets
# 6 The Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
# 7 Guest Workers Inc.: Fraud and Human Trafficking
# 8 Executive Orders Can Be Changed Secretly
# 9 Iraq and Afghanistan Vets Testify
# 10 APA Complicit in CIA Torture
# 11 El Salvador’s Water Privatization and the Global War on Terror
# 12 Bush Profiteers Collect Billions From No Child Left Behind
# 13 Tracking Billions of Dollars Lost in Iraq
# 14 Mainstreaming Nuclear Waste
# 15 Worldwide Slavery
# 16 Annual Survey on Trade Union Rights
# 17 UN’s Empty Declaration of Indigenous Rights
# 18 Cruelty and Death in Juvenile Detention Centers
# 19 Indigenous Herders and Small Farmers Fight Livestock Extinction
# 20 Marijuana Arrests Set New Record
# 21 NATO Considers “First Strike” Nuclear Option
# 22 CARE Rejects US Food Aid
# 23 FDA Complicit in Pushing Pharmaceutical Drugs
# 24 Japan Questions 9/11 and the Global War on Terror
# 25 Bush’s Real Problem with Eliot Spitzer
http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/09/25/project-censored-2009-the-stories-your-corporate-news-whores-are-ignoring/
Maggotpunk, thanks for listing those. Apparently like you, I also read REAL news, so this isn’t news to me. Man, I wish folks would snap out of it.
Hot diggity-DOG! It’s funny what we’ve turned into in this country. A bunch of “tough”, football and rasslin’ watching, pufferfish. We’re such “bad asses” that hotdogs now petrify us.
But, were those hot dogs really safe? You never know what’s inside them.
I saw part of Palin’s interview with Coric last night.
Palin is a fluff-head moron. Biden is going to crucify her in the vice pres debate.
Chicago War Zone Information
Body count. In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago ,
221 killed in Iraq .
Sens. Barack Obama & Dick Durbin, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod
Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan, Mayor
Richard Daley…our leadership in Illinois…all Democrats. Thank you
for the combat zone in Chicago . Of course they’re all blaming each
other. Can’t blame Republicans, there aren’t any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook County
( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look ‘em up if you
want). Chicago school system one of the worst in country. This is the
political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois . He’s gonna ‘fix’
Washington politics?
Did anyone else notice that the Couric interview posted on the web has a big part of it repeated? Obviously the tape was edited… I just wonder what, if anything, was left out?
Anyone seen Couric since the interview? LOL!
Anybody else a Johnny Depp fan? Good News!!
Captain Jack Sparrow will sail again. The Walt Disney Company’s film division said Wednesday that Johnny Depp, below, would star in a fourth installment of its “Pirates of the Caribbean” franchise. A release is still years away — Disney did not give specifics on timing or a plot — but the company intends to keep Mr. Depp busy in the meantime. He will play the Mad Hatter in a 2010 reimagining of “Alice in Wonderland,” directed by Tim Burton, and Tonto in a remake of “The Lone Ranger.”
“Biden is going to crucify her in the vice pres debate.”
PROBABLY, lil’ Sarah won’t show up.
She’ll have to go on an emergency moose hunt or something.
Depp rules.
Good morning XXX!
Biden? Biden is an idiot. He’s been on the wrong side of every major issue for the last 30 years.
LOL
AL QAEDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOT DOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! THEY’RE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ha HA!
Joe Scarborough is talking about the Couric interview of Palin and suggesting Palin is just not fit.
The cons have gone over the cliff.
Cue falling bomb whistle. Stand by on “splat”!
Joe Biden drunk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY&feature=related
hehehe
Joe Biden, drunk again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ&feature=related
hehehe
quoth Peggy Noonan:
“It’s over.”
BlueJay sings…
It’s over, it’s over, it’s OOOOOVER
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HLP
Posted September 26, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink
Good morning XXX!
Biden? Biden is an idiot. He’s been on the wrong side of every major issue for the last 30 years.
LOL
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Mornin’ Hank,
So if Biden, the idiot, crucifies Sarah in the debate, where does that put dear Sarah. What, exactly, is less than an idiot? I know: a right wing, religious wacko, who gets a ceremony performed over her to drive out witches. Then, forgets the lines her handlers hammered into her for the past two weeks. So win or lose, she’s already a fruitcake:-)
Sarah Palin gettin’ dem witches chased outta her:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/the-witch-hunter-anoints_b_128805.html
hehehe
There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow,
There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow,
The corn is as high as an elephant’s eye,
An’ it looks like its climbin’ clear up to the sky.
Oh what a beautiful morning,
Oh what a beautiful day,
I’ve got a wonderful feeling,
Everything’s going my way.
All the cattle are standing like statues,
All the cattle are standing like statues,
They don’t turn their heads as they see me ride by.
But a little brown mav’rick is winking her eye.
All the sounds of the earth are like music,
All the sounds of the earth are like music,
The breeze is so busy it don’t miss a tree,
And an ol’ Weepin’ Willer is laughin’ at me.
Sarah Palin’s mother-in-law uncertain about how she’ll vote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican_race/2008/08/30/2008-08-30_sarah_palins_motherinlaw_uncertain_about.html
hehehe
Palin defends Alaska-Russia foreign policy remark:
“WE have trade missions back and forth.”
Problem is, she was never a part of one, and never met a Russian trade rep, and never been to Russia.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-onthemedia26-2008sep26,0,7467803.story?track=rss
hehehe
Palin kept donations from tainted politicians.
JUNEAU, Alaska (Map, News) – Sarah Palin felt so strongly about the public corruption indictment of a Republican state senator this summer that she urged him to resign – but not strongly enough to return the $1,000 he gave to help elect her governor.
The donation from John Cowdery was one of three from Alaska legislators who contributed to Palin’s 2006 campaign weeks after the FBI raided their offices. The sprawling public corruption scandal that followed became a rallying point for candidate Palin, who was swept into office after promising voters she would rid Alaska’s capital of dirty politics.
One of the three donors is in prison, another is awaiting trial and Cowdery was indicted in July on two federal bribery counts. Palin, now GOP presidential nominee John McCain’s running mate, has not returned any of their donations, according to campaign finance disclosures reviewed Thursday.
Over the years, both McCain and Democratic nominee Barack Obama have returned campaign donations tied to corruption, expressing regret in both cases. Obama’s campaign says he’s given to charity $159,000 tied to convicted Chicago real estate developer Antoin “Tony” Rezko. In the early 1990s, McCain returned $112,000 from Charles Keating, a central figure in the savings and loan crisis, after a Senate ethics inquiry.
http://www.examiner.com/a-1606575~Palin_kept_donations_from_tainted_politicians.html?cid=rss-Politics
hehehe
Sarah Palin on the 700 billion dollar bailout . . . sort of:
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2008/09/25/sarah-palin-out-of-control-talking-point-machine-or-political-magnetic-poetry.html
hehehe
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Regular
Posted September 26, 2008 at 7:35 am | Permalink
And an ol’ Weepin’ Willer is laughin’ at me.
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Not just “an ol’ Weepin’ Willer”, but pretty much everybody and everything:-)
The so-called guardians of America’s wealth love to gamble:
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Are you entrusting your money to banking houses or sportin’ houses? The United States is in its worst credit crisis since the Great Depression, as shotgun marriages are arranged and financed by the government.
Investment and commercial banks are regularly taking multibillion-dollar write-downs because of their gambling addictions. But the once-staid institutions continue another addiction: paying big money to get naming rights on pro sports facilities — a dubious marketing ploy for financial companies, which should be advertising their safety, not their sporting nature. Actually, in paying big bucks to put their names on sports facilities, financial institutions have been subliminally admitting that they are gamblers, not fiduciaries.
Of the 70 pro stadiums, ballparks, and arenas in the United States and Canada, 20 sport the names of financial institutions. That sum was 21 until last year. Subprime lender Ameriquest had the rights to the Texas Rangers’ (baseball) field until 2034. In early 2006, Ameriquest settled a class-action suit with the attorneys general of 49 of the 50 states over allegations of predatory lending and bait-and-switch tactics. Soon it closed all its branch offices and stopped taking loans. Then it quietly withdrew from the Rangers deal.
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2008/sep/24/city-light-1/
On the “CBS Evening News” on Thursday, Katie Couric asked Ms. Palin, Senator John McCain’s running mate, what she meant when she cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as foreign affairs experience. Ms. Palin could have anticipated the question — the topic of their interview, pegged to her visit to the United Nations, was foreign affairs. Yet Ms. Palin’s answer was surprisingly wobbly: her words tumbled out fast and choppily, like an outboard motor loosened from the stern.
“That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land — boundary that we have with — Canada,” she replied. She mentioned the jokes made at her expense and seemed for a moment at a loss for the word “caricature.” “It — it’s funny that a comment like that was — kind of made to — cari — I don’t know, you know? Reporters —”
Ms. Couric stepped in. “Mocked?” Ms. Palin looked relieved and even grateful for the help. “Yeah, mocked, I guess that’s the word, yeah.”
Ms. Couric pressed her again to explain the geographic point. “Well, it certainly does,” Ms. Palin said, “because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of.”
Ms. Couric asked the governor if she had ever been involved in negotiations, for example, with her Russian neighbors.
“We have trade missions back and forth,” Ms. Palin said. “We — we do — it’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America, where — where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border.”
Ms. Palin, looking at Ms. Couric intently, kept on going. “It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to — to our state.”
That exchange was so startling it ricocheted across the Internet several hours before it appeared on CBS and was picked up by rival networks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/us/politics/26watch.html?em
Palin on foreign policy. It’s difficult to describe and you really need to hear it with your own ears and draw your own conclusions.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4478156n
Linda, with the performance of Sarah during the Couric interview, the real reason why McCain suspended his campaign, canceled the debate and pretty much threw a monkey wrench into the bail out becomes clear: Sarah is brain dead. He would be happy is Sarah never had to talk to the press again. Check out her answer to the bailout during the same interview:
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2008/09/25/sarah-palin-out-of-control-talking-point-machine-or-political-magnetic-poetry.html
This woman must be stupid.
Surely, you’ve all watched the genius that is “Idiocracy”, right?
Welcome to us.
Dow down 128.
Wait 130.
It’s sinking. The economy is sinking.
Now bush is talking and it is sinking FASTER down 144.
Republicans have torpedoed America.
The republican revolt is all for show and bogus. Don’t kid yourselves. They have stood blindly behind Bush for almost 8 years. Now they are pretending they had nothing to do with stupid decisions.
If Bush had invested $3 triillion in the USA NOT war!
Bank monopolies are in the making. BUSHCO Iraq war broke the banks and China has cut off lending for awhile.
Invasion war is a money hole with zero payback. Hitler taught us that.
Just think if polticians had spent $3 trillion on healthcare for all,alternative energy and the the green industry the USA would be making money off the new jobs the money created thus new wealth for the USA not bankruptcy.
Add a stiff excise tax on all USA named imports made in China then the USA would be rolling in the dough!
When Castro nationalized the Cuban sugar industry, American shareholders (the owners) had their equity wiped out as well. Socialism is tough on capitalists.
Perhaps the quick-buck boys on Wall St. should have thought about this before now.It happened to the oil boys and girls as well. So we send our expensive military in to tell other governments,Iran and Iraq, they cannot do business as they see fit.
Fact is that is a risk corporate america must assume. Stockholders must ALSO assume that risk when investing in corporations that invest abroad. The military SHOULD NOT be used as the Wall Street Protection Service.
Democrats: For Bush’s Bailout
Republicans: Against Bush’s Bailout
So I guess today the libs that were furious over the bailout over the last few days will now be for the bailout.
Democrats want to add an additional 56 billion to the bailout!
Pelosi say’s Bush’s plan MUST pass!
Fall in line BlueJay and help support the wealthy CEO’s.
“So I guess today the libs that were furious over the bailout over the last few days will now be for the bailout.” — ANTI
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Speaking for myself only, as everyone has their own opinion and all “libs” have superior brains and abilities to reason for themselves, I am still furious about the bailout.
Now, I’m also furious that McCain has made the negotiations, the process, the hope for bipartisan agreement MORE DIFFICULT! Complicating the negotiations doesn’t indicate leadership to me. He has no business inserting himself into the process at this point.
All week I have questioned the need to hurry. I’ve pointed out that in my opinion bush needed “something / anything” to happen before the third quarter end because without intervention he wouldn’t be able to manipulate the figures adequately to hide the true state of the economy. He really really wanted to get out of Dodge before everything was known.
Also since bush’s bailout was announced I have wondered why Congress is only looking at ways to modify the bush proposal instead of alternatives.
The time needed should be used, the input and advice of those who are the best experts should be gained and the process should go smoothly without disruption.
McCain is nothing but a disruption! There is no bill out of committee yet. McCain doesn’t serve on any committee addressing any bill on the economy. His input, if needed, can be given from anywhere. He is in the way, making progress difficult!
Now, I’m also furious that McCain has made the negotiations, the process, the hope for bipartisan agreement MORE DIFFICULT!
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How so? You do know Obama was there too, right?
I am aware that Obama respectfully accepted an invitation from bush to attend a meeting yesterday afternoon. Obama said he would be anywhere he was needed and do anything he could to help. He also stated he has no committee responsibilities so his duties as a Senator aren’t yet in play. He is in constant contact with all the players. His leadership and support are also well known to those whose job it is to put together a bipartisan bill Congress will address.
Why would anyone think it is leadership to step in and take over for people who are doing their jobs? Or interfere in any way with the process? Have they yet failed? Have they yet cried “Uncle?” Is the work progressing and those charged with the responsibilities aware help is available if needed?
Linda, how has McCain made the process “MORE DIFFICULT”, as you claim?
Mccain using the old playbook, create a crisis, then step in and undo what you created, to look like the hero.
Palin on foreign policy. It’s difficult to describe and you really need to hear it with your own ears and draw your own conclusions.
I saw the interview yesterday, but decided to watch again. This time I noticed something (other than the little hand gestures–a sign of nervousness?) that caught my attention, over and above the stammering and inability to finish a thought. Why did she keep looking down? Two or three times. Were the answers written on her hem?
Why would anyone think it is leadership to step in and take over for people who are doing their jobs?
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Please clarify. Are you referring to McCain? If so, how did McCain “take over for people who are doing their jobs”?
The Democrats in the Congress and the House are not willing to allow a global financial apocalypse to throw the country into a serious recession or even a full-blown depression.
I think what the Democratic lawmakers were furious about is how this economic cancer was brought about by Bush’s men at HUD who failed to monitor and regulate Fannie and Freddy, which is one of the stated missions of the Department of Housing and Development (HUD) that Bush appointees run.
From Politico.com:
“The Democrats insisted that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) would not bring the plan to the floor unless is had substantial support from the GOP.
It does not yet, and it’s not clear how it ever will.
According to one GOP lawmaker, some House Republicans are saying privately that they’d rather “let the markets crash” than sign on to a massive bailout.
“For the sake of the altar of the free market system, do you accept a Great Depression?” the member asked.”
Either the answer is “Yes”, or this is all being staged so McCain can save the day by bringing the revolting House members back into the plan. -db
Mccain using the old playbook, create a crisis, then step in and undo what you created, to look like the hero.
Key word is “hero”. McCain lost his claim to heroism long ago. A true hero doesn’t beat people over the head with it. A true hero doesn’t need to.
The dems had built into negotiations safeguards against no oversight, and distribution of funds, and veto power for later trahches. They had made progress and were about to get the bush proposal on more reasonable footing. Mccain screwed the pooch (and perhaps the global enocomy).
Funny how so many of you so called republican apparently don’t have any finances to worry about. Bunch of RINOs.
Most heroes don’t even like the word.
It seems none of you can answer the question….this must be your “strategy” from your lunch discussion.
ANTI — you bore me. You sound like Nathan of 20 questions. I have other responsibilities and nothing I say to you will change your opinion. You have “the google” and a brain. You see, it isn’t my job to answer your questions. I’ve answered mine, you find your own answers. And I am waiting for those charged with formulating a bill that Congress will debate and give input on and ultimately vote on. At this point, I’ve done what I need to do and will need to wait for progress. I will give input when it is time and the input will be given to those who might make a difference. Do you get to help in formulating the bill or vote in Congress? If not, you aren’t who Iwill give my input.
Linda, you made the accusations, I simply asked you to back them up.
You can not.
You put it out there(typical lib) and won’t stand by it.
That reeks of weakness.
That’s what I’m thinking, mccain will play the house side down to the wire (in private) then last minute withdraw his support telling them they’re on their on (Probably come out in a press conference when he tells them), and Johnny will come marching home.
Far as I can tell, McCain hasn’t done anything but be a disruption. Is there anything to show otherwise? If that is how he wants to spend his time we all see his choice, we all get to decide what we think of his choices.
Sounds like we’ll also get to hear more from Obama since he won’t need to share the national stage with McCain.
And each of us still has one vote. I will use mine!
Heheh.
It’s ALL theatre, what’s so hard to understand?
They all knew it was happening because THEY ALL PLANNED IT.
I know that’s a hard one to swallow for some of you, but this is/was supposed to happen. They all thought that they could “control” it long enough for the election, when by then, it would all have been too late for us to scratch in a new candidate.
These people and their hubris got caught up in their own swindle and now it’s a go-for-broke situation. We will have an NAU and we will lose our soveriegnty. Do you not notice that there is zero transparency in any of this? That ought to be a BIG red flag, but then again we are all fearful about something and this is of course, an “issue of national security”, so us knowing what’s going on is on a need-to-know basis.
You all had your chance with Dr. Paul, you chose to laugh and call him a kook. Now he’s tired and is hoping that the REAL American’s can carry the torch of freedom and get the message out to those who are resilient to common sense.
This is the end game and what we’re seeing is truly “bi-partisan” in that they are all covering each of the crooked backs.
Deal with it. As Bush just stated, “there WILL be a rescue package”. Whether or not The People want it or not, is irrelevant. Republican and Dems alike are hoping they all don’t get voted out (if there is an election) in November.
Vote out ALL incumbents this time. Everyone of them.
Or we can carry on like the dumbed-down fools that we all are.
ANTI — you should probably get together with Nathan of 20 questions. Since you have no opinion to share here on the blog, only questions. The two (?) of you can probably attempt to out questions one another!
Let em’ burn.
10,000 victims of china’s plastic milk.
lindainks55
Posted September 26, 2008 at 9:34 am | Permalink
ANTI — you should probably get together with Nathan of 20 questions. Since you have no opinion to share here on the blog, only questions. The two (?) of you can probably attempt to out questions one another!
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Linda, I have an opinion. My opinion is that you are to weak to stand by your accusations. McCain and Obama were both there. You say McCain is causing a disruption and trying to do other peoples jobs. I asked like how/what. As it seems you are privy to this information and I would like to know. You refuse to back up your statement. Which leads me to believe you are full of it.
I do NOT want these companies to be rewarded for THEIR poor choices. Just as I don’t want someone sitting on the couch sucking the Gov. teat to be rewarded with more milk.
Instead of providing the Birth Certificate, Obama vows to dismiss the lawsuit.
Barrack Obama files a motion to dismiss against Berg
Why not send someone in there with the birth certificate and it???s over?
http://www.flds.ws/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/obama-motion-to-dismiss.pdf
DEFENDANT DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEES AND DEFENDANT SENATOR BARACK OBAMA???S MOTION TO DISMISS Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6), defendants Democratic National Committee and Senator Barack Obama respectfully move the Court for an order dismissing the Complaint on the grounds that this Court lacks subject-matter jurisdiction over the claim asserted and that the Complaint fails to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. Pursuant to Local Rule 7.1, accompanying this Motion is a Brief in Support of Motion to Dismiss and a proposed Order.
The Motion has not been Granted by the Court (at this time).
Faced with the lawsuit, the Obama camp had 2 options:
1. Produce the required documentation proving that Obama is a ???natural born??? citizen, and that his citizenship was never relinquished and/or was re-established after he had moved with his mother to Indonesia. Doing so would put this issue to rest in Pennsylvania, plus all of the other states and jurisdictions where this is being monitored; or ???
2. File motions, obfuscate, advance obscure legal theories, push for dismissal, etc.
APPARENTLY OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT
Good point, Linda.
They’ll have you googling to prove that “cows give milk” if you give them half a chance.
That’s why I put Anti “on ignore” several weeks back.
You should try it.
Makes reading the Blog a much more pleasant experience.
Capn’A gets pissy when you prove that his outlandish claims are nothing more than tabloid hearsay or flat out lies. Capn’A and Linda, apparently do not rely on facts, just rumors…The ends justify the means….
What’s really irritating is when you debunk their accusations, the repeatedly post their original. Just like the mccain campaign.
What Happened In The Cabinet Room…
25 Sep 2008 07:22 pm
Though Sen. Chris Dodd implied that Sen. McCain sandbagged the rest of the negotiators by bringing up alternative proposals, McCain himself did not bring up those proposals, according to four independent sources briefed by four different principals inside the meeting, including two Republicans and two Democrats.
“McCain has not attacked the Paulson deal,” said a third Republican who was briefed by McCain direclty. “Unlike the [Democrats] in the [White House] meeting, he didn’t raise his voice or cause a ruckus. He is urging all sides to come together.”
Republicans like John Boehner brought up the concerns of House GOPers and McCain acknowledged hearing about their concerns. And McCain, and staffers, did seek to gauge the level of support of the GOP working group’s white paper. The Democrats were left with the impression that McCain endorsed the GOP efforts, but they concede that he did not raise them directly.
The fact is that Boehner doesn’t have 100 votes from his conference — 100 votes that Nancy Pelosi really wants. And that’s not McCain’s fault.
But Boehner and the White House — and McCain — if they want to get something passed — do have the responsibility to persuade these Republicans to support the bailout .
After all, if not to get these recalcitrant Republicans on board, why did McCain go to Washington in the first place?
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/mccain_kept_head_down_in_meeti.php
We find our own answers. ANTI screams questions. NEEDS our answers badly it seems as (I’m guessing here) can’t find them anywhere else. Then ANTI screams that we rely on rumors.
is anyone else laughing yet?
Now come the rumors about Barack Obama’s birthplace, that he was really born in his father’s native Kenya, so like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria, he can’t become a U.S. president.
Same rule would apply as for McCain. Obama’s mother was an American. So is her son.
The Obama campaign has provided at The Ticket’s request what it says is a copy of the Illinois senator’s official birth certificate, reproduced here, showing he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m., which means he was late for dinner, just like a politician. Click on the photo to enlarge for reading.
Now, about the citizenship of all those people planting these rumors.
(UPDATE: In reaction to some of the comments left below challenging the veracity of the document, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, sent the following reaction to The Ticket: “I can confirm that that is Sen. Obama’s birth certificate.”)
–Andrew Malcolm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
BTW, if one looks closely at the bottom of this official document it reads: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
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SO, he’s AMERICAN BY BIRTH in two ways:
1. His mother was an American citizen.
2. He has a legal document proving he was born in Hawaii.
We’ll take your apology for spreading scurrilous lies now, Boxlock.
“At the bipartisan White House meeting that Mr. McCain had called for a day earlier, he sat silently for more than 40 minutes, more observer than leader, and then offered only a vague sense of where he stood, said people in the meeting.”
DNFTT : )
I was working in Malaysia when one of my American colleagues gave birth to a son there.
Is the boy “not an American citizen” because he was born in Malaysia?
Of course not. His mother was American. He’s American, no matter where he was born.
lindainks55
Posted September 26, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink
We find our own answers. ANTI screams questions. NEEDS our answers badly it seems as (I’m guessing here) can’t find them anywhere else. Then ANTI screams that we rely on rumors.
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Linda, please read my 9:55 am post.
Hey WichiWomn, you’ve been missed! Good to know you’re still around. ;-)
((((((((((((((((Wichi))))))))))))))))))))))
LTNS
Good to see ya!
HA, Linda. Great minds work alike!
Linda, also read DavidB’s 9:56 post.
I don’t see the “disruption” as you claim to be a fact. You are spreading falsehoods.
OK, ANTI! Whatever you say! You seem to have formed an opinion. Run with it! Did I tell you how bored I am with you? Let me spell it out again. You bore me. I have my answers, find your own. If you want to share them, do so. If not, don’t.
Linda, you are a funny ol’ broad. Accepting false answers must come easy to your weak mind. I will drop it, since you have no facts.
Wow.
It sure got quiet from Boxlock’s corner.
Looks like he’s not man enough to say, “I was wrong.”
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Boxlock
Posted September 26, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink
Instead of providing the Birth Certificate, Obama vows to dismiss the lawsuit.
Barrack Obama files a motion to dismiss against Berg
Why not send someone in there with the birth certificate and it???s over?
http://www.flds.ws/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/obama-motion-to-dismiss.pdf
DEFENDANT DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEES AND DEFENDANT SENATOR BARACK OBAMA???S MOTION TO DISMISS Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6), defendants Democratic National Committee and Senator Barack Obama respectfully move the Court for an order dismissing the Complaint on the grounds that this Court lacks subject-matter jurisdiction over the claim asserted and that the Complaint fails to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. Pursuant to Local Rule 7.1, accompanying this Motion is a Brief in Support of Motion to Dismiss and a proposed Order.
The Motion has not been Granted by the Court (at this time).
Faced with the lawsuit, the Obama camp had 2 options:
1. Produce the required documentation proving that Obama is a ???natural born??? citizen, and that his citizenship was never relinquished and/or was re-established after he had moved with his mother to Indonesia. Doing so would put this issue to rest in Pennsylvania, plus all of the other states and jurisdictions where this is being monitored; or ???
2. File motions, obfuscate, advance obscure legal theories, push for dismissal, etc.
APPARENTLY OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT
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IN THE FIRST PLACE, OBAMA PUT HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE ON HIS SITE. FACT CHECK CHECKED IT OUT AND FOUND IT TO BE REAL, AND ON FILE IN HAWAII. THERE IS ALSO A NOTICE IN THE PAPER POSTING THE BIRTH IN HAWAII.
BUT LET’S CUT TO THE CHASE: A MAN DECIDES TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE FBI, CIA, NSA, PTA, PGA, AND ANY AND ALL LETTERED AGENCIES WILL BE CHECKING HIM FROM BIRTH TO TODAY.
YOU HAVE TO BE EITHER IGNORANT, STUPID OR BOTH THE BELIEVE FOR ONE MINUTE OBAMA IS NOT A US CITIZEN. IT IS NOT EVEN A TALKING POINT. SO, BOXLOCK, WHICH ARE YOU, IGNORANT OR STUPID?
OR ARE YOU A BIG CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO THINKS SOME UNKNOWN BIGGY KNEW OBAMA WAS GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT BEFORE HIS BIRTH, SO HE FALSIFIED ALL RECORDS, INCLUDING THE NEWSPAPER POSTING HIS BIRTH ONE DAY AFTER HE WAS BORN? YOU MORONS JUST AMAZE ME.
Linda–
Think of Anti as what he is, one of those scruffy little dogs like a Yorkie that will bite your heel when you’re not looking.
You don’t try to reason with the Yorkie, do you?
CapnAmerica,
No apology offered!
This is a lawsuit that will either be dismissed or he will have to respond.
If he had a legitimate birth certificate he could simply produce it for the court and be done with it.
BUT, he doesn’t…..Files motions, obfuscates, advances obscure legal theories, pushes for dismissal, etc.
APPARENTLY, HE CAN’T PRODUCE ONE THAT COULD BE SHOWN TO BE FAKE SO…. OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT
I am sure Obama is a citizen of the USA….I just am not voting for that citizen.
That’s ‘could not be shown to be fake’.
Palin answers question like that beauty queen did a while ago. It’s just a rambling assemblage of slogans, but then, that’s what some people prefer.
Wrong conclusion, Boxlock.
He has a birth certificate that says it is “prima facie evidence of a fact of birth in legal hearings.”
What Obama is doing is trying to avoid a drawn out legal case over nothing.
Looks like “frivolous lawsuits” are only frivolous when poor people sue hospitals for malpractice . . .
Of course, if he’s Todd Palin or Karl Rove, he can just ignore the subpeona.
“this must be your “strategy” from your lunch discussion.”
Not everyone can be at every lunch. We’re working on that.
Did your ears burn “ANTI”? We were discussing who you might really be.
We also discussed this economic crisis that you cons have created with your greed. There was no agreement on whether the bailout was a good idea or not.
You see? We liberals worry over what course of action will least hurt people who have done nothing wrong. Comfortable in your money, you cons simply do not care.
I do not know what the answer is. IF there was a way to hurt you people and did not hurt others, THAT would be my preference.
Phluffer- Vote out ALL incumbents this time. Everyone of them.
Or we can carry on like the dumbed-down fools that we all are.
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I guess there IS some common ground.
The White House meeting McCain called for was buy all accounts a total waste for time for all involved.
It was a stunt by “Hail Mary Pass” McCain to inject himself into the area of economics which he admits he knows little to nothing about.
John McCain: “I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.”
- http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007600
A small comment on the suit that is being discussed:
Boxlock, as you have posted, Sen. Obama’s attorneys have filed a Rule 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss the Petition for failure to state a claim upon which relief may be given. The motion is accompanied by a brief, as required by the local rules of the district court. A Rule 12(b)(1) motion has also been filed, citing lack of jurisdiction.
I am not, as I am sure you are not, familiar with the contents of the brief. It would not, however, surprise me that as an exhibit to the brief there is a copy (certified copy) of the birth certificate. That is, by the way, how one shows a copy to the court to get the suit dismissed.
As the motion has been filed, there will need to be a hearing thereon, where issues such as the authenticity of the birth certificate will be raised and considered by the court. That is to ensure the authenticity of the copy offered as evidence.
So, Boxlock, it is not as simple as just walking into court with a certified copy of a birth certificate and the court dismisses the case. I’m sure you can figure out why this is.
From the media reports, the litigation is frivolous in my opinion. My opinion matters not; it is the opinion of the court that is material. Until a hearing is held on the motion, and a ruling issued by the judge, we shall not know whether the case will be dismissed, and whether the court believes the action was frivolous (a matter to be brought before the court by Sen. Obama and the DNC, by motion). Such is the way the system works.
BlueJay
Posted September 25, 2008 at 11:30 pm | Permalink
“$700 Billion – I’m glad they are arguing like hell about it.”
I am too. I don’t feel that every American taxpayer should pay to bail out the rich.
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Dang I agree with JR!
Whatsamatter JR, you pissed off that Government would give taxpayer money away to people who didn’t EARN it!?!
Join the club.
The reason the repubs told the dems no, h*ll no…
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The Democratic ACORN bailout; Update: Video addedposted at 7:55 am on September 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Send to a Friend | printer-friendly House Republicans refused to support the Henry Paulson/Chris Dodd compromise bailout plan yesterday afternoon, even after the New York Times reported that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson got down on one knee to beg Nancy Pelosi to compromise. One of the sticking points, as Senator Lindsey Graham explained later, wasn’t a lack of begging but a poison pill that would push 20% of all profits from the bailout into the Housing Trust Fund — a boondoggle that Democrats in Congress has used to fund political-action groups like ACORN and the National Council of La Raza:
In the Roosevelt Room after the session, the Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., literally bent down on one knee as he pleaded with Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker, not to “blow it up” by withdrawing her party’s support for the package over what Ms. Pelosi derided as a Republican betrayal.
“I didn’t know you were Catholic,” Ms. Pelosi said, a wry reference to Mr. Paulson’s kneeling, according to someone who observed the exchange. She went on: “It’s not me blowing this up, it’s the Republicans.”
Mr. Paulson sighed. “I know. I know.”
Graham told Greta van Susteren that Democrats had their own priorities, and it wasn’t bailing out the financial sector:
And this deal that’s on the table now is not a very good deal. Twenty percent of the money that should go to retire debt that will be created to solve this problem winds up in a housing organization called ACORN that is an absolute ill-run enterprise, and I can’t believe we would take money away from debt retirement to put it in a housing program that doesn’t work.
Here’s the relevant part of the Dodd proposal:
TRANSFER OF A PERCENTAGE OF PROFITS.
DEPOSITS.Not less than 20 percent of any profit realized on the sale of each troubled asset purchased under this Act shall be deposited as provided in paragraph (2).
USE OF DEPOSITS.Of the amount referred to in paragraph (1)
65 percent shall be deposited into the Housing Trust Fund established under section 1338 of the Federal Housing Enterprises Regulatory Reform Act of 1992 (12 U.S.C. 4568); and
35 percent shall be deposited into the Capital Magnet Fund established under section 1339 of that Act (12 U.S.C. 4569).
REMAINDER DEPOSITED IN THE TREASURY.All amounts remaining after payments under paragraph (1) shall be paid into the General Fund of the Treasury for reduction of the public debt.
Profits? We’ll be lucky not to take a bath on the purchase of these toxic assets. If we get 70 cents on the dollar, that would be a success.
That being said, this section proves that the Democrats in Congress have learned nothing from this financial collapse. They still want to game the market to pick winners and losers by funding programs for unqualified and marginally-qualified borrowers to buy houses they may not be able to afford — and that’s the innocent explanation for this clause.
The real purpose of section D is to send more funds to La Raza and ACORN through housing welfare, via the slush fund of the HTF. They want to float their political efforts on behalf of Democrats with public money, which was always the purpose behind the HTF. They did the same thing in April in the first bailout bill, setting aside $100 million in “counseling” that went in large part to ACORN and La Raza, and at least in the former case, providing taxpayer funding for a group facing criminal charges in more than a dozen
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/the-democratic-acorn-bailout/
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Looks as if the queen needs to reign in her court.
(((((((((((((KsFarmgrrl & Linda)))))))))))) and a few others…. : )
Time doesn’t permit me to check in too often, but I sneak a peek now and then.
Did your ears burn “ANTI”? We were discussing who you might really be.
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Fred Garvin, male prostitute.
Article 2 – The Executive Branch
Section 1 – The President
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Title 8 of the U.S. Code
Section 1401
Definition of ‘natural born citizen’.
If Obama was born in Kenya, makes no difference that his mother was a US citizen.
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There is a rumor that Berg has evidence that proves Obama’s mother was in Kenya at the time Obama was born. That’s why Obama’s only hope is to get the lawsuit dismissed.
If Obama really wanted to avoid the lawsuit in court all he would have to do is provide evidence proving his birth place and the judge could give issue a ‘directed verdict’.
BlueJay, it is pathetic that you must have a hen party to discuss blog strategy. Do you all have a real life? This is a freaking Blog! Come on!!!!
For further comment:
Rule 12(b)(6) motions are indeed designed (as are all Rule 12 motions) to dispose of cases quickly, without the need for protracted discovery, litigation, etc. That said, I will add that if the Court does not grant the motion, that doesn’t mean the Plaintiff will win the case; it merely means that a justiciable claim has been raised in the complaint, which, at this point, cannot be dismissed.
This Blog must be the only thing that makes the libs feel important…..sad, just sad………..But extremely funny that the have to have strategic hen parties!!! HA HA HA!!
Morning, Hank:
See my first post as to how Sen. Obama needs to proceed to do that of which you post.
Pleef, sometimes I think you are really out there, but I agree that they thought they had control of this horse until after the election. Then, after they ran him to death, they’d just jump off and let him die after the election.
But… the horse thingy didnt go as planned. They lost control before the finish line, the damn thing is laying down and threatening to die BEFORE they finish the race to the white house.
And everyone in the stands who bet their money holds their breath. They wonder if they’ll be left with a handful of worthless tickets? Or a sack full of cash?
And Pre, those were note cards in Palin’s hands. This is her performance on an open book test!
Yikes!
JMStalker- SO, he’s AMERICAN BY BIRTH in two ways:
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So he is not African/Amererican…….
He’s African AND American……
Is that what you are trying to say?
No hens at this recent one “ANTI”.
No cons either. We like it that way!
OKs story about the alleged ACORN bail out was written by this guy:
Edward Morrissey is the second ex-husband of Rev. Mary Manin Morrissey who pled guilty to money laundering and using funds from his wife’s New Thought church, Living Enrichment Center, for personal expenses. Edward Morrissey was sentenced to federal prison for his crimes. He was released on February 2, 2007. from wikipedia
There is a reliable reporter! LOL
JMStalker- SO, he’s AMERICAN BY BIRTH in two ways———————–
So he’s Halfrican?
BlueJay, it is still pathetic. I hope the food was good though.
Wichiwoman I missed out on meeting you before. I hope we can make up for that sometime soon.
And having rained on “ANTI’s” day, I’m off to enjoy mine.
They don’t even know the definition of an American citizen……
Opps. my bad.. wrong Ed Morrissey! LOL. Apology’s to all involved.
Thanks avtolle,
I’m kinda busy at work, takes me too long to participate sometimes, the discussion moves on.
And Pre, those were note cards in Palin’s hands. This is her performance on an open book test!
O M G
TY, kfg.
Looked at 8 USC 1401, Hank; I don’t think the language of the statute supports the position you take concerning the birthplace of a child born to parents, one of whom is an American citizen, in a foreign locale.
8 USC 1401(g) provides, in pertinent part:
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: * * *
Now, the Constitution states “natural born citizen”; the provisions of 8 USC 1401 cover “citizens at birth”, a difference in the language which may or may not make a difference in the discussion.
Anti I see you have irratated Linda of no answers only baseless allegations. Of no economic sense. Of ignorance of the real details of the dimo plan.
She won’t talk to you again as she does me. Big loss. But she will talk through one of her shills. You know the ones they designate at the ’secret luncheon’.
I think they are regressing.
McCain is picking up political capital everywhere but in the mainstream media. If you read the post I had yesterday showing how in the tank they are for Obama. Even other media is pointing out there bias. Obama showed up and voted present.
Just heard that the vote is tanking again because the dims added even more money on it.
McCain will be debating tonight.
John McCain was born in Panama….
hehehe
I can picture the BLOG rat, JR, having a power lunch to discuss ‘tactics’, what is beyond me is how incredibly devoid of substance your life would have to be to meet with a loser like junior!
For any reason!
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HLP
Posted September 26, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink
Article 2 – The Executive Branch
Section 1 – The President
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Title 8 of the U.S. Code
Section 1401
Definition of ‘natural born citizen’.
If Obama was born in Kenya, makes no difference that his mother was a US citizen.
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There is a rumor that Berg has evidence that proves Obama’s mother was in Kenya at the time Obama was born. That’s why Obama’s only hope is to get the lawsuit dismissed.
If Obama really wanted to avoid the lawsuit in court all he would have to do is provide evidence proving his birth place and the judge could give issue a ‘directed verdict’.
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Hank, I can’t believe you’re buying into this BS. Being a retired navy man, you know as well as I the President, prior to election, has to be vetted by the major security agencies. He will be involved with classified material of the highest order. In order to run for president one must be a natural US citizen. That is probably the first thing those agencies check out. If Obama wasn’t a US citizen, he wouldn’t have been allowed to run in the first place.
Obama was born in Hawaii. The only ones believing otherwise are racist ignorant idiots. I imagine the CIA and FBI are laughing their collective asses off over this. I know I am.
When this lawsuit is thrown out because of pure stupidity on Bergs part, I imagine berg will file another lawsuit claiming Obama’s less than thirty five years old. Is this country really so full of stupid people this crap is believed . . . by anybody?
Come on, Hank, you’re not that stupid.
Yes, Sen. McCain was born in Panama. However, from the status of his parents at the time, and the status of Panama at the time, I hold the opinion that he, as well as Sen. Obama, meet the Constitutional requirement.
Test
Man, the CONs are particularly petty and vicious today.
So typical.
They’re cornered on all substantive issues so go for the personal attacks, insults, and name-calling.
Hardly worth bothering with.
But, since this is an Open Thread, I thought I’d share a place that was so Kansas, we all should be proud.
Frannie’s is closed now.
But for 20 years or so, it made ya feel good you lived in this silly little state.
http://www.kansastravel.org/frannies.htm
ok- McCain will be debating tonight.
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no teleprompter…the One has to work hard on the memorization….
With no real experience, no ideals, no convictions, no plan I expect alot of uh…er…Bush….uh…..same….uh….my plan…washinton…change….uh…er…
With the media and the audience quietly chanting…
the One….
the One….
The Lib Creed-
The truth is whatever you wish it to be.
BJ, I am strong enough not to ALLOW anyone to rain on my day.
ANTI- BJ, I am strong enough not to ALLOW anyone to rain on my day.
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Especially on Friday!
I usually come in late on Friday, so I take off early to make up for it.
BlueJay
Posted September 26, 2008 at 10:19 am | Permalink
“this must be your “strategy” from your lunch discussion.”
Not everyone can be at every lunch. We’re working on that.
Did your ears burn “ANTI”? We were discussing who you might really be.
We also discussed this economic crisis that you cons have created with your greed. There was no agreement on whether the bailout was a good idea or not.
You see? We liberals worry over what course of action will least hurt people who have done nothing wrong. Comfortable in your money, you cons simply do not care.
I do not know what the answer is. IF there was a way to hurt you people and did not hurt others, THAT would be my preference.
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Thanks BJ for the laugh of the day. If you were as important as you try to be the dims could run you for office. They might need a White House janitor. You discussing economics brings a smile to my face. The recession can’t get here fast enough to go on Bush unfortunately. Wall Street isn’t one of the considerations used. Sorry Linda.
Well I’ve had my laugh for today. DavedB nice try to discredit the ACORN story. The egg is on the face of the dims. The truth is out. Pelosi, Reed and Dodd don’t have a plan only a giveaway plan and it didn’t float.
Thanks to the Republican members!
Um…thanks…KFG…I guess? It’s lonely way out here in the real world.
And blase’1, we agree on something? no friggin’ way.
Taxpayer money for ACORN.
That alone is good enough reason to stop this theft of taxpayer money.
BJ–A legend in only his mind.
CRL Testimony on ACORN’s Voter Fraud
Last update: 10:31 a.m. EDT Sept. 25, 2008
WASHINGTON, Sept 25, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ — James Terry, Chief Public Advocate for the Consumers Rights League, today testified at a joint House Administration and House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on “Federal, State and Local Efforts to Prepare for the General 2008 Election,” where he highlighted “corruption at every level of ACORN including embezzlement, cover-ups, misuse of taxpayer funds and voter fraud.” An excerpt of his testimony follows:
James Terry, Chief Public Advocate, Consumers Rights League:
“ACORN routinely says it will clean up its act. Yet, given its decade-long history of voter fraud, embezzlement, and misuses of taxpayer funds, ACORN’s pattern of fraud can no longer be dismissed as a series of ‘unfortunate events.’
“The problem of voter registration fraud raises serious questions for this committee, and the Consumers Rights League appreciates that the right questions are being asked.
“Here are the most important questions right now: We know about the thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registration cards turned in by ACORN and caught by officials. But given the size of ACORN’s efforts and the fact that the abuses appear to be systemic, we believe it is fair to question how many more fraudulent registrations have not been discovered, Furthermore, as this mega organization with a decades long history of violating the law is turned to get out the vote efforts, we believe it is fair to question how many fraudulent registrations may lead to fraudulent votes or what other activities they are willing to undertake to influence the election.
“These are serious questions, especially in light of recent election results which show that a just few votes can change the outcome of an election, the course of our country and the course of history.
“While we do not presume to tell this committee how to address this problem, we respectfully submit that our nation’s election system is facing a concerted campaign that raises serious issues that merit the committee’s oversight and attention.”
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These are the people the dims want to give your tax dollars to.
JR you might need another ‘power lunch’ to discuss this. I just can’t type that with a straight face. JR running a power lunch! Amazing!
“biased1″ fantasizes –
“…the audience quietly chanting…
the One….
the One….”
Yeah, right.
Those Oxford, Mississippi audiences are all known to be liberal-commie-pinko-leftist-socialist-left-wing mindless zombies.
Attack, name-call, insult, “Biased1″ (Which sounds eerily similar to “The One,” you rail against. What’s the problem? Jealousy?). It’s all you’ve got.
All you CONs were bucking up McCodger’s “principled” decision to duck out of tonight’s debate until he abandoned you. Now you’ve got to run to catch up with your
loose cannonmaverick who’s firmly on the record for and against any issue you can mention.No wonder you’re dizzy.
Pluffer
Posted September 26, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink
Um…thanks…KFG…I guess? It’s lonely way out here in the real world.
And blase’1, we agree on something? no friggin’ way.
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Don’t be spreadin’ that around. I’ll deny it.
Sen. Chris Dodd, the top Democrat on the Senate Banking Committee, said Thursday that bipartisan meeting with President Bush at the White House on the mortgage rescue plan was nothing short of a disaster. In an interview on the CNN cable news network, Dodd described a meeting in which Democrats were blindsided by a new core mortgage proposal from House Republicans, with the tacit backing of Republican presidential candidate John McCain. “I am not going to sign on to something I just saw this afternoon,” he said. Dodd said Republicans and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson had to decide what they wanted to support. The whole meeting “looked like a rescue plan for John McCain,” Dodd said.
For Sol, and those who care about the truth:
(Long, but something all Americans should read TODAY, or else!)
Ron Paul: My Answer to the President
By admin • September 25, 2008
Dear Friends:
The financial meltdown the economists of the Austrian School predicted has arrived.
We are in this crisis because of an excess of artificially created credit at the hands of the Federal Reserve System. The solution being proposed? More artificial credit by the Federal Reserve. No liquidation of bad debt and malinvestment is to be allowed. By doing more of the same, we will only continue and intensify the distortions in our economy – all the capital misallocation, all the malinvestment – and prevent the market’s attempt to re-establish rational pricing of houses and other assets.
Last night the president addressed the nation about the financial crisis. There is no point in going through his remarks line by line, since I’d only be repeating what I’ve been saying over and over – not just for the past several days, but for years and even decades.
Still, at least a few observations are necessary.
The president assures us that his administration “is working with Congress to address the root cause behind much of the instability in our markets.” Care to take a guess at whether the Federal Reserve and its money creation spree were even mentioned?
We are told that “low interest rates” led to excessive borrowing, but we are not told how these low interest rates came about. They were a deliberate policy of the Federal Reserve. As always, artificially low interest rates distort the market. Entrepreneurs engage in malinvestments – investments that do not make sense in light of current resource availability, that occur in more temporally remote stages of the capital structure than the pattern of consumer demand can support, and that would not have been made at all if the interest rate had been permitted to tell the truth instead of being toyed with by the Fed.
Not a word about any of that, of course, because Americans might then discover how the great wise men in Washington caused this great debacle. Better to keep scapegoating the mortgage industry or “wildcat capitalism” (as if we actually have a pure free market!).
Speaking about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the president said: “Because these companies were chartered by Congress, many believed they were guaranteed by the federal government. This allowed them to borrow enormous sums of money, fuel the market for questionable investments, and put our financial system at risk.”
Doesn’t that prove the foolishness of chartering Fannie and Freddie in the first place? Doesn’t that suggest that maybe, just maybe, government may have contributed to this mess? And of course, by bailing out Fannie and Freddie, hasn’t the federal government shown that the “many” who “believed they were guaranteed by the federal government” were in fact correct?
Then come the scare tactics. If we don’t give dictatorial powers to the Treasury Secretary “the stock market would drop even more, which would reduce the value of your retirement account. The value of your home could plummet.” Left unsaid, naturally, is that with the bailout and all the money and credit that must be produced out of thin air to fund it, the value of your retirement account will drop anyway, because the value of the dollar will suffer a precipitous decline. As for home prices, they are obviously much too high, and supply and demand cannot equilibrate if government insists on propping them up.
It’s the same destructive strategy that government tried during the Great Depression: prop up prices at all costs. The Depression went on for over a decade. On the other hand, when liquidation was allowed to occur in the equally devastating downturn of 1921, the economy recovered within less than a year.
The president also tells us that Senators McCain and Obama will join him at the White House today in order to figure out how to get the bipartisan bailout passed. The two senators would do their country much more good if they stayed on the campaign trail debating who the bigger celebrity is, or whatever it is that occupies their attention these days.
F.A. Hayek won the Nobel Prize for showing how central banks’ manipulation of interest rates creates the boom-bust cycle with which we are sadly familiar. In 1932, in the depths of the Great Depression, he described the foolish policies being pursued in his day – and which are being proposed, just as destructively, in our own:
Instead of furthering the inevitable liquidation of the maladjustments brought about by the boom during the last three years, all conceivable means have been used to prevent that readjustment from taking place; and one of these means, which has been repeatedly tried though without success, from the earliest to the most recent stages of depression, has been this deliberate policy of credit expansion.
To combat the depression by a forced credit expansion is to attempt to cure the evil by the very means which brought it about; because we are suffering from a misdirection of production, we want to create further misdirection – a procedure that can only lead to a much more severe crisis as soon as the credit expansion comes to an end… It is probably to this experiment, together with the attempts to prevent liquidation once the crisis had come, that we owe the exceptional severity and duration of the depression.
The only thing we learn from history, I am afraid, is that we do not learn from history.
The very people who have spent the past several years assuring us that the economy is fundamentally sound, and who themselves foolishly cheered the extension of all these novel kinds of mortgages, are the ones who now claim to be the experts who will restore prosperity! Just how spectacularly wrong, how utterly without a clue, does someone have to be before his expert status is called into question?
Oh, and did you notice that the bailout is now being called a “rescue plan”? I guess “bailout” wasn’t sitting too well with the American people.
The very people who with somber faces tell us of their deep concern for the spread of democracy around the world are the ones most insistent on forcing a bill through Congress that the American people overwhelmingly oppose. The very fact that some of you seem to think you’re supposed to have a voice in all this actually seems to annoy them.
I continue to urge you to contact your representatives and give them a piece of your mind. I myself am doing everything I can to promote the correct point of view on the crisis. Be sure also to educate yourselves on these subjects – the Campaign for Liberty blog is an excellent place to start. Read the posts, ask questions in the comment section, and learn.
H.G. Wells once said that civilization was in a race between education and catastrophe. Let us learn the truth and spread it as far and wide as our circumstances allow. For the truth is the greatest weapon we have.
In liberty,
Ron Paul
http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-25/ron-paul-my-answer-to-the-president/
We have reached a point where those who have, have too much. Blue Jay
Who decides who has too much?
Much has been taken from me and many to make other people money. I am very prepared and far from alone to do some getting back.Blue Jay
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All you do is whine and play the martyr.
PSSSSSSSSTTTTT,No one said life would be fair,deal with it
The above shows how McCain made things more difficult . . .
Is “delay” the word of the week for the Republicans?
Apparently, Palin has requested and received a 4 day extension on the disclosure of her personal finances. October 3rd is now the day they must be presented. That’s the day AFTER her debate with Biden has been scheduled.
Palin wins delay for financial disclosure
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/536988.html
I wonder if Ron Paul could run as an Independent in all 50 states?
He’d be a shoe-in.
http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/
hehehe
I can picture the BLOG rat, JR, having a power lunch to discuss ‘tactics’, what is beyond me is how incredibly devoid of substance your life would have to be to meet with a loser like junior!
Thanks for showing us how a Christian acts, Hank.
Monkeyspank-
chants..
the One….
the One….
No chance to be dizzy…
At least when you are dizzy your eyes are OPEN.
You’re comatose…..
Sittin’ with your hands on you knees….
The One has the answers…..
Our Savior from the bad man…
Our Savior from ourselves….
the One….
the One….
Bob Barr is already running as a Libertarian.
BOB BARR !
BOB BARR !
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biased1
Posted September 26, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink
ok- McCain will be debating tonight.
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no teleprompter…the One has to work hard on the memorization….
With no real experience, no ideals, no convictions, no plan I expect alot of uh…er…Bush….uh…..same….uh….my plan…washinton…change….uh…er…
With the media and the audience quietly chanting…
the One….
the One….
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No need for you to even watch the debate, is there. As your nic implies, you have made up your mind without even having to waste your time watching it. If there are anymore of you out there. like, well, yourself, franklin, kandisue, max, and a few others, it surly wont affect the ratings.
Personally, I’m interested in what both have to say. It’s called an open mind, something the neo-cons have no concept of.
CraponAmerika
Posted September 26, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink
Sen. Chris Dodd, the top Democrat on the Senate Banking Committee, said Thursday that bipartisan meeting with President Bush at the White House on the mortgage rescue plan was nothing short of a disaster. In an interview on the CNN cable news network, Dodd described a meeting in which Democrats were blindsided by a new core mortgage proposal from House Republicans, with the tacit backing of Republican presidential candidate John McCain. “I am not going to sign on to something I just saw this afternoon,” he said. Dodd said Republicans and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson had to decide what they wanted to support. The whole meeting “looked like a rescue plan for John McCain,” Dodd said.
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Read: Dodd thought “bi-partisanship” meant “him and Barney”….
bahhhhhhhh………
bahhhhhhhh………
sheeple.
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Predestined
Posted September 26, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink
Is “delay” the word of the week for the Republicans?
Apparently, Palin has requested and received a 4 day extension on the disclosure of her personal finances. October 3rd is now the day they must be presented. That’s the day AFTER her debate with Biden has been scheduled.
Palin wins delay for financial disclosure
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/536988.html
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Something to hide there, Palin? Afraid we, the people, might not like how your finances are spread out? Interesting. This duo of rehabs is looking more and more like dumb and dumber.
The Sky is Falling and Walker is STILL pre-occupied with Palin!
I see where the sniveling little coward McCain has figured out that he’s got to show up for the debate tonight.
Will McCain fall asleep during the debate, or just choke on his own drool?
JMStalkers Personally, I’m interested in what both have to say. It’s called an open mind, something the neo-cons have no concept of.
……..
1. This woman must be stupid.
2. Not just “an ol’ Weepin’ Willer”, but pretty much everybody and everything:-)
3. Sarah Palin gettin’ dem witches chased outta her:
4. I know: a right wing, religious wacko, who gets a ceremony performed over her to drive out witches.
……..
guess yer right, “no concept of”…..
fall in line behind your buddy Crapon…
bahhhhhhhh………
bahhhhhhhh………
sheeple…………
Monkeyhawk
Posted September 26, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink
“biased1? fantasizes –
“…the audience quietly chanting…
the One….
the One….”
Yeah, right.
Those Oxford, Mississippi audiences are all known to be liberal-commie-pinko-leftist-socialist-left-wing mindless zombies.
Attack, name-call, insult, “Biased1? (Which sounds eerily similar to “The One,” you rail against. What’s the problem? Jealousy?). It’s all you’ve got.
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So monkey the fact that you all have call Palin everyname in the book means you are jealous because you have Biden and we have Palin.
Thanks for the clarification.
Barney Frank, what a sorry-assed excuse for a CongressMAN.
He helped cause this mess, now he’s running around like a fricken fairy blaming McCain for ruining their latest and greatest solution to the problem that Barney caused!
XXX- Will McCain fall asleep during the debate, or just choke on his own drool?
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I just hope he wears his hip waders, ’cause as soon as the One opens his mouth…..
‘its gonna git deep!
bahhhhhhhh…….
bahhhhhhhhh….
sheeple……….
This bunch appears to me to be way too progressive, considering people like Mark Rudd being involved!!
http://progressivesforobama.net/
I wonder if Obama’s Code Pink supporters will be in the audience.
Afterall, Obama will need his Foreign Policy supporters there to cheer when Obama talks about what a great friend Achmademijad is to the USA.
Code Pink will jump up and down and cheer!
JM and Cap you are so forthright with your ‘openmindedness’. Well one problem with an open mind is that brain matters escapes and from what you have posted today that appears to be a problem here today.
I will give Obama this – he did go to Washington – offered nothing to the discussion thinking the repubs were going along with the dims giveaway to ACORN one of his favorite groups – and he did vote PRESENT.
Max, isn’t Achmademijad the “President” of that small insignificant country?
They pose “no real threat” to US do they?
Well, if they do, I’m SURE the one can talk them out of it.
or Nato
or the European Union
or the United Nations
Any way, I’m confident the One can handle it…..
maybe give him a stamp.
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biased1
Posted September 26, 2008 at 11:42 am | Permalink
JMStalkers Personally, I’m interested in what both have to say. It’s called an open mind, something the neo-cons have no concept of.
……..
1. This woman must be stupid.
2. Not just “an ol’ Weepin’ Willer”, but pretty much everybody and everything:-)
3. Sarah Palin gettin’ dem witches chased outta her:
4. I know: a right wing, religious wacko, who gets a ceremony performed over her to drive out witches.
……..
guess yer right, “no concept of”…..
fall in line behind your buddy Crapon…
bahhhhhhhh………
bahhhhhhhh………
sheeple…………
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Gee, ya got me there, bareassed1. For a minute I was acting like my old republican self.
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biased1
Posted September 26, 2008 at 11:45 am | Permalink
XXX- Will McCain fall asleep during the debate, or just choke on his own drool?
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I just hope he wears his hip waders, ’cause as soon as the One opens his mouth…..
‘its gonna git deep!
bahhhhhhhh…….
bahhhhhhhhh….
sheeple……….
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They’ll all need hip waders if McCain forgets his depends.
And the Feds grab Washington Mutual overnight, just as an additional scare tactic to get the people in a panic to approve the Fed’s Plan now!
You stupid sheeple buy this crap?
The Fed caused this crisis! Now we are going to listen to them, given them more power and more money so that they can solve the problem?
Damn, Americans are stupid!
“okobserver” calls me out –
“So monkey the fact that you all have call Palin everyname in the book means you are jealous because you have Biden and we have Palin.
Thanks for the clarification.”
Hey, that’s a fair question.
Yeah, I refer to Palin as the Moose-Dresser and McCoot and McCodger are among the sobriquets I’ve assigned to John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term).
But they’re public figures.
I challenge you to show me any example in which I’ve addressed anyone on this forum by anything than their published nym.
Maybe I have, but I sincerely try not to.
As difficult as you CONs make it, I try to engage in rational discussion of issues on this forum. I don’t care about sock-puppets or multi-nics. I figure there are enough of you crazies in Kansas to account for “ksgrm” and an entirely different “okobserver.” I remember “Econ101,” and am pretty sure “Franklin” is one and the same, but I don’t bother to attribute “Econ101’s” idiocy to “Franklin,” since “Franklin” has come up with enough idiocy under that nym.
I’m confident “Nathaniel” is the former “Nathan,” but for whatever reason he changed his on-line persona, I really have no reason to refer to him as anything else.
Petty middle-school name-calling of participants in this forum is childishly ignorant and encumbers substantive debate.
Let’s take the Fed back under Government ownership.
The Federal Reserve, the owner of American Currency, should be The People.
Bet most of you thought the Fed was part of Government, didn’t you?
“Scientists..have decoded the genome of the Pristionchus pacificus nematode, thereby gaining insight into the evolution of parasitism.”
Yeah Maggotpunk
A few weeks ago, I took apart my digital cameral since it stopped working and I wanted to figure out how it was put together. In the process, I gained insight in to the evolution of digital cameras.
Isn’t evolution wonderful?
JMStalker-
“first question to Presi-oops I mean the One.”
“How do you plan to improve our relations in the middle east?”
The One: I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as. And I believe that they should, uh, our education over here! In the U.S. should help the U.S., or, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for our children.
and the crowd chants….
the One….
the One….
RFL- thereby gaining insight into the evolution of parasitism.”
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they found a liberal gene attached.
biased1, the One has had some of the best debate coaches working with him for weeks, in preparing for this series of debates.
I would bet we see the best acting job since Bill Clinton.
MaggotPuke- Petty middle-school name-calling of participants in this forum is childishly ignorant and encumbers substantive debate.
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Oh, didn’t know THE rules I guess…..
thanks for clearing that up………..
Didn’t understand that YOUR name calling was so mature and contributed to the “substance” of your debate.
Now that I think about it, your name calling IS the substance of your debate……
bahhhhhhhhh………
bahhhhhhhhh………
Max- biased1, the One has had some of the best debate coaches working with him for weeks, in preparing for this series of debates.
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Without a doubt, but I still think “town hall experience” will be pretty powerful.
Now Barrack, remember ya gotta:
-Avoid sounding uppity or arrogant.
-Don’t be too nice.
-Don’t be too mean.
-Look upwards toward heaven, like your are Godlike. Remember, no Roman Columns there tonight.
-Wipe that smart-ass lil smile off your face.
-Your not debating Heelry or Hair Boy this time around, be on your toes, but don’t tap dance.
-Talk all about being a community organizer and how you did so many good things for Chicago!
-The hardest part, remember to keep your lies straight!
And Barrack Boy, remember, you are in Mississippi tonight.
Talk like your suthun bruthahs.
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 26, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink
And Barrack Boy, remember, you are in Mississippi tonight.
Talk like your suthun bruthahs.
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And tape, any body got any tape?
ahh crist, we GOT to get those EARS taped down quick!!!
We interrupt this program for an important announcement.
Sorry to stray from the current topic being discussed, but this is interesting:
Sources say Alberto Gonzales now claims that President Bush personally directed him to John Ashcroft’s hospital room in the infamous wiretap renewal incident—and that in another instance the President asked him to fabricate fictitious notes
by Murray Waas
What Did Bush Tell Gonzales?
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200809u/gonzales-investigation
Predickstained- infamous wiretap renewal incident
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Boy I’ll say………
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braindead1
Posted September 26, 2008 at 12:28 pm | Permalink
Predickstained- infamous wiretap renewal incident
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Boy I’ll say……
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Obviously, bonehead1 has a significant problem remembering anything more than six minutes old, which is the age of his one brain cell, which, being a cell composed of right-wing wacko butt juice, has lost the ability to multiply, divide, or replicate due to the lack of any detectable DNA. Scientists are of the opinion this one brain cell is not in fact a real brain cell, but more like a simple amoeba, getting it’s nourishment from three day old excrement. The scientists also say there is no worry of it multiplying and infecting the real world, as it basically just lies there and drools.
Let’s Play “WALLSTREET BAILOUT” The Rules Are… Rep Kaptur D Ohio
Excellent video to see just how the Democrats feel about the bailout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32ds
Is that all you’ve got, biased1? Namecalling? Sucks to be you, huh?
How LIES are easily spread.
Student newspaper of the University of Wisconsin – Eau Claire
http://media.www.spectatornews.com/media/storage/paper218/news/2008/09/25/Editorialopinion/Mccain.More.Qualified.Than.Obama-3451244.shtml
“ANWR is over 19 million acres. However, the drilling spot is merely a tiny portion of that – only 2,000 acres.”
By Bethany Aronhalt
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The truth about the 2,000 acre “limit”(sic).
http://www.inforain.org/Northslope/anwr_3.html
That name was totally inappropriate Biased1, and as a woman I find it totally insulting. Shame on you.
“Predestined
Posted September 26, 2008 at 1:20 pm | Permalink
Is that all you’ve got, biased1? Namecalling? Sucks to be you, huh?”
That is his/her standard M.O.
Apparently all he is capable of doing
“liberal-commie-pinko-leftist-socialist-left-wing mindless zombies” if you had added “gay,” you would have made a blog-record for meaningless smear words in a single sentence…
Nice try, though!
bj gleefully posted this morning:
“Dow down 128.
Wait 130.
It’s sinking. The economy is sinking.
Now bush is talking and it is sinking FASTER down 144.
Republicans have torpedoed America.”
Well, BJ..you can stop your victory dance now and your joy about the losses sustained by millions. The dow is up over 70 points as of this afternoon. Ruins your day, I know, but seems like the ‘torpedo’ didn’t explode, did it?
Congressional Republicans: The Heroes of the Hour
The Bailout: Why Are President Bush and the Democrats Working Against Congressional Republicans?
In Washington, it’s a showdown between the representatives of Wall Street and the representatives of Main Street. But have you noticed that the old partisan alliances are reversed? It’s the Democrats who are now the Wall Street Party. And Republicans—with the conspicuous exception of President Bush—are now the Main Street Party.
Consider: President Bush proposed the $700 billion plan; after days of hiding behind the Secretary of Goldman Sachs, Henry Paulson, Bush finally emerged from the sidelines Wednesday night to tout the plan in prime time. Just this morning, he spoke again in favor of his plan, while again taking no questions from pesky reporters.
But the Congressional Democrats, who mostly despise Bush, are also mostly for the Bush plan. Sure, they made some cosmetic changes in the bailout proposal, but they have never wavered in their basic endorsement.
So who’s against the plan? It’s Congressional Republicans who are getting in the way. They are the heroes of the hour. Although outnumbered, these brave Capitol Hill GOPers have stopped official Washington in its tracks.
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/
Why?
Because the Democratic majority, supporting the bailout, doesn’t actually dare to vote for it unless they know that most Republicans will vote for it, too. And that’s because the Democrats fear that this bailout legislation is deeply unpopular with the country. So the only way that Democrats can vote for the bill and be safe this November is if Republicans also put their names on the legislative dotted line. Not a profile in courage for Democrats, of course, but it’s smart practical politics for them to demand some “cover.”
Max vomits >>>>
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 26, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink
And the Feds grab Washington Mutual overnight, just as an additional scare tactic to get the people in a panic to approve the Fed’s Plan now!
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Gee max — I didnt know that Morgan/Chase is “the Feds” — Morgan/Chase bought up WaMu last night for $1.9 Billion…. WaMu has approx. $300 Billion in assets…
Guess Max doesnt read much… Oh well…
Did you forget to turn on your teleprompter??
The FDIC seized WaMu’s banking units, “cherry-picked a little bit” and merged the Washington Mutual Federal Savings Bank into JPMorgan without transferring all the liabilities, MacDonald said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a2VofC5midrw&refer=home
Sigh….Chas,
“Instead, J.P. Morgan agreed to pay $1.9 billion to the government for WaMu’s banking operations and will assume the loan portfolio of the thrift, which has $307 billion in assets.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122238415586576687.html
U.S. seizes WaMu; Chase to buy S & L
Tribune reporter Becky Yerak and Tribune news services contributed to this report. | New York Times News Service
September 26, 2008
Washington Mutual, the giant lender that came to symbolize the excesses of the mortgage boom, was seized by federal regulators on Thursday night in an 11th-hour bid to prevent the largest bank failure in American history.
Regulators simultaneously brokered an emergency sale of virtually all of Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. to JPMorgan Chase & Co. The remainder of WaMu, the nation’s largest savings and loan, will be operated by the government. Shareholders and some bondholders will be wiped out.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-fri_banks-chasesep26,0,3565624.story
(Chas eats vomit from Max)
Anti, Chas is a little lib swoopin in to make a lil ass of himself, everyday.
He’s very successful at that, too.
Anti, Chas is a little lib swoopin in to make a lil ass of himself, everyday.
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I set my watch by it.
If WaMu didn’t get bailed out and folded instead…would I had to still keep paying on my mortgage?
How does that work?
August 12, 2008
Guns and Ammo Sales on the Rise in 2008
http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/guns-and-ammo-sales-on-the-rise-in-2008/
Ron Paul’s Joint Economic Committee Statement
Mr. Chairman, I believe that our economy faces a bleak future, particularly if the latest $700 billion bailout plan ends up passing. We risk committing the same errors that prolonged the misery of the Great Depression, namely keeping prices from falling. Instead of allowing overvalued financial assets to take a hit and trade on the market at a more realistic value, the government seeks to purchase overvalued or worthless assets and hold them in the unrealistic hope that at some point in the next few decades, someone might be willing to purchase them.
One of the perverse effects of this bailout proposal is that the worst-performing firms, and those who interjected themselves most deeply into mortgage-backed securities, credit default swaps, and special investment vehicles will be those who benefit the most from this bailout. As with the bailout of airlines in the aftermath of 9/11, those businesses who were the least efficient, least productive, and least concerned with serving consumers are those who will be rewarded for their mismanagement with a government handout, rather than the failure of their company that is proper to the market. This creates a dangerous moral hazard, as the precedent of bailing out reckless lending will lead to even more reckless lending and irresponsible behavior on the part of financial firms in the future.
This bailout is a slipshod proposal, slapped together haphazardly and forced on an unwilling Congress with the threat that not passing it will lead to the collapse of the financial system. Some of the proposed alternatives are no better, for instance those which propose a government equity share in bailed-out companies. That we have come to a point where outright purchases of private sector companies is not only proposed but accepted by many who claim to be defenders of free markets bodes ill for the future of American society.
As with many other government proposals, the opportunity cost of this bailout goes unmentioned. $700 billion tied up in illiquid assets is $700 billion that is not put to productive use. That amount of money in the private sector could be used to research new technologies, start small business that create thousands of jobs, or upgrade vital infrastructure. Instead, that money will be siphoned off into unproductive assets which may burden the government for years to come. The great French economist Frederic Bastiat is famous for explaining the difference between what is seen and what is unseen. In this case the bailout’s proponents see the alleged benefits, while they fail to see the jobs, businesses, and technologies not created due to this utter waste of money.
The housing bubble has burst, unemployment is on the rise, and the dollar weakens every day. Unfortunately our leaders have failed to learn from the mistakes of previous generations and continue to lead us down the road toward economic ruin.
My bank bought WaMu. Damn glad I picked Chase when I switched. Those guys are kicking some ass.
“If WaMu didn’t get bailed out and folded instead…”
It did fold.
Mary_Caruso
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:07 pm | Permalink
If WaMu didn’t get bailed out and folded instead…would I had to still keep paying on my mortgage?
How does that work?
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As long as you are making your payments, you better believe your loan would be bought by another bank/mortgage company, at a discount likely, to offset the losses from the bad loans bought.
Now Mary, would you renig on your debt obligations?
You would be ripping off some poor elderly investor somewhere who’s retirement is in FNMA and GNMA bonds.
Oh yeah, Chase is now the largest bank in America. Over 9 trillion in deposits. BoA is around 7
Yo Sol, I dedicated one to you earlier today: 11:24
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/open-thread-926-2/#comment-433015
BTW, those lying liars spreading lies about Obama not having been born in the US?
You have to be a citizen of the US to be a Senator.
Duh.
We are in for extrememly hard times over at LEAST the next decade if this bill goes through. The best we can hope for is no bill by Monday. Then the congress will go back home and catch an ear full from their constituants. I haven’t heard anyone support this. Everyone is against it.
If your congressman/senator votes against your will, vote his/her ass out next election.
Thanx Max. The good doctor DEFINES straight talk.
You have to be a citizen of the US to be a Senator.
Duh.
To be president?
Duh
Anti, regarding your 9:55, good post.
Would like to hear more about what went on in that cabinet meeting and how OBAMA brought everyone together there!
The truth is, the Democrats can pass whatever Bailout Bill they want, since Bush is on their side. They only need a couple of R-Senators to join them, and they’ve already got that!
The only reason Pelosi is holding the deal up, is she wants to get most of the Repbulicans on board, so that all of Congress, Republicans and Democrats can share the blame together.
If the Dems were so proud of their Bill, it would have been passed Wednesday or Thursday this week.
SolDevVB
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:19 pm | Permalink
We are in for extrememly hard times over at LEAST the next decade if this bill goes through. The best we can hope for is no bill by Monday. Then the congress will go back home and catch an ear full from their constituants. I haven’t heard anyone support this. Everyone is against it.
If your congressman/senator votes against your will, vote his/her ass out next election.
Thanx Max. The good doctor DEFINES straight talk.
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Sorry Sol, that I didn’t get convinced about Paul sooner.
Why is Jessie Jackass on Fox right now? Didn’t he drop the N bomb on Obama? Didn’t he rail for the termination of Imus for a far lesser remark?
Max,
FoxNews was one of the worst offenders marginalizing Dr. Paul durring the primaries. Look for him now to be a co-host.
All of the MSM blacked out Dr. Paul. Now they beg him to be on their shows.
Now all he needs to do is start pumping up the R3VOLUTION. Talk about an October surprise, for BOTH major candidates.
It’s really odd here how the Liberal Socialist Democrats are so totally McFlustered to be siding with Big Banks and George Bush while at the same time – Conservatives who are true to their core beliefs are very clear on where we stand.
SolDevVB
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:27 pm | Permalink
Why is Jessie Jackass on Fox right now? Didn’t he drop the N bomb on Obama? Didn’t he rail for the termination of Imus for a far lesser remark?
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The world is truly upside down.
The END must be near.
So, all night, and all morning on radio news, I have been hearing that Morgan/Chase bought WaMu… And now max argues with national radio news??
Forgive me if I am a little slow buying Max’s version… Also, I thought FDIC was an insurance deal… to protect depositors’ accounts???
Is Jackson endorsing McCain now?
FDIC = The Feds.
Jackass, to his credit, is railing against the handout.
Wamu failed. The feds stepped in. Chase hit the firesale and got a bargain. #1 bank in America now.
Chas, you have to stop listening to the Commie PBS radio station. THEY LIE!
U.S. seizes WaMu; Chase to buy S & L
Tribune reporter Becky Yerak and Tribune news services contributed to this report. | New York Times News Service
September 26, 2008
Washington Mutual, the giant lender that came to symbolize the excesses of the mortgage boom, was seized by federal regulators on Thursday night in an 11th-hour bid to prevent the largest bank failure in American history.
Regulators simultaneously brokered an emergency sale of virtually all of Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. to JPMorgan Chase & Co. The remainder of WaMu, the nation’s largest savings and loan, will be operated by the government. Shareholders and some bondholders will be wiped out.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-fri_banks-chasesep26,0,3565624.story
Pelosi is now talking about another stimulas package that she “is very proud of”. God Lord, another freakin handout? Where is all this money coming from?
We will soon be paying 1.5 trillion a year in interest alone. We are bankrupt.
SolDevVB
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:33 pm | Permalink
Jackass, to his credit, is railing against the handout.
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Jackson’s McFlustered too, but since the Libs kicked him out, any port in a storm, even if it’s Fox News!
Max, you lying FOOL!!! I didnt say ONE WORD about PBS news, or anything of the sort… I do wish you and Granny would get new glasses…
The only reason Pelosi is holding the deal up, is she wants to get most of the Repbulicans on board, so that all of Congress, Republicans and Democrats can share the blame together.
If the Dems were so proud of their Bill, it would have been passed Wednesday or Thursday this week.
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Yep!
Max, you lying FOOL!!!
Max,
You’re up brother. Leave some meat on the bones for me.
Chas, you are an idiot!
God it’s HARD to READ about Federal Regulators seizing WAMU.
Maybe they can put the news out in RED INK, to make it easier for the Commies to read and understand.
Red would also sybolize the DEBT we be in now.
SolDevVB
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:36 pm | Permalink
Pelosi is now talking about another stimulas package that she “is very proud of”. God Lord, another freakin handout? Where is all this money coming from?
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Yep, something like 53 billion more!!!!
From YOUR link Max —
“Federal regulators had been trying to broker a deal for Washington Mutual because a takeover by the FDIC would have dealt a crushing blow to the government’s deposit insurance fund.”
It is my understanding that this bill is being held up by republicans in the Congress. Is this not true?
I can understand it too. Why would a republican write out a 700 billion blank check?
How many folks have looked at other solutions? Why is a bailout the only way to go?
The majority of Americans are against this. Watch out come election time should they pass this turd.
Oh ok, you’re right Chas.
I’m wrong.
Will you STFU now?
Stay on point Max… Where did I say ANYthing about PBS news??? Huh???
Your misdirection and more lies arent helping you any!!
YOUR link says federal regulators worked out a deal in order to PREVENT a take-over by FDIC….
as usual, capn is wrong. A Senator must be a US Citizen, but is not required to have been born in this country. That requirement is only applied to the President.
You have to be at least 30 years old, a citizen of the US for at least the past nine years and a resident of the state you would like to represent as per Article 1, Section 3 of the Constitution.
Just kidding Chas. I’m right. You are W R O N G.
For the 39th time:
From my link:
“Washington Mutual, the giant lender that came to symbolize the excesses of the mortgage boom, was seized by federal regulators on Thursday night in an 11th-hour bid to prevent the largest bank failure in American history.
Regulators simultaneously brokered an emergency sale of virtually all of Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. to JPMorgan Chase & Co. The remainder of WaMu, the nation’s largest savings and loan, will be operated by the government.”
If this won’t go thru your thick skull, then you be 2 dumb to figure it out.
Chas, you lazy eyed freak read!
ANTI
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:02 pm | Permalink
Sigh….Chas,
“Instead, J.P. Morgan agreed to pay $1.9 billion to the government for WaMu’s banking operations and will assume the loan portfolio of the thrift, which has $307 billion in assets.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122238415586576687.html
Oh, OK Chas. I’ll take your word for it, you were not listening to PBS news.
What lying stupid radio station were you listening too?
Chas, were you playing 8-tracks again?
Be sure to keep calling your elected representatives and telling them to reject the bailout.
Ron Paul has been 100% right up to this point. I know most of you are upset that you didn’t listen to him and support his campaign for presidency, but that is irrelevant now.
Please support freedom and do not let Socialism and Facism take over America.
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:49 pm | Permalink
Chas, were you playing 8-tracks again?
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Chas listens to hard core satanic death metal.
This should be an issue where all Americans come together like they did on the immigration bill, and The People tell Congress what to do for a CHANGE.
Amen Aus_Eco
http://rightchange.com/issues.php
Chas listens to the voices in his head. He placates himself by callng it ‘Listening To The Radio’. Better than watching ‘Radio With Pictures’.
Follow Aus_Eco’s advice and call.
WASHINGTON (AP) – The U.S. Mint is temporarily halting sales of its popular American Buffalo 24-karat gold coins because it can’t keep up with soaring demand as investors seek the safety of gold amid economic turbulence.
Mint spokesman Michael White said Friday that the sales were being suspended because demand for the coins, which were first introduced in 2006, has exceeded supply and the Mint’s inventory of the coins has been depleted.
The Mint had to temporarily suspend sales of its American Eagle one-ounce gold coins on Aug. 15 and then later that month announced sales of the American Eagle coins would resume under an allocation program to designated dealers.
White said the Mint expected to soon start distributing available Buffalo gold coins through a similar allocation program.
Through Thursday, the day the Mint suspended sales of the American Buffalo, the Mint had sold 164,000 of the coins this year, up 54 percent from the same period a year ago.
“People are scared. Gold has become a safe haven,” said Michael Maroney, a vice president of sales at gold dealer Monex Precious Metals in Newport Beach, Calif.
Maroney said that demand for the one-ounce American Eagle coins was “through the roof.” He said Monex still had American Buffalos available Friday because the company had recently stocked up on them.
With the financial crisis gripping markets in recent weeks, investors have rushed to safe havens such as gold and Treasury securities. Demand for three-month Treasury bills last week pushed their yields down sharply to levels not seen in decades.
Investment advisers, however, caution that the volatility often seen in gold prices could make investments in this area more of a risky decision if gold prices suddenly begin to fall sharply.
As the financial crisis unfolded in the past few weeks, American Gold Exchange Inc. saw demand for coins go up about 50 percent, according to Bill Musgrave, a vice president of the Austin, Texas-based gold dealer.
The Mint introduced the American Buffalo gold coin, the country’s first 24-karat gold coin, in 2006. Congress authorized production of the coin in an effort to capture a portion of the global market for pure gold coins, competing with such coins as the Canadian Maple Leaf.
ANTI
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:53 pm | Permalink
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:49 pm | Permalink
Chas, were you playing 8-tracks again?
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Chas listens to hard core satanic death metal.
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That’s it!
It must have been Radio with Pictures!
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Nah, all that gets you is Christian Rock.
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 26, 2008 at 3:48 pm | Permalink
Oh, OK Chas. I’ll take your word for it, you were not listening to PBS news.
What lying stupid radio station were you listening too?
Gosh, Max… I was listening to several… Fox News; ABC news; CBS news…. NONE of them are PBS news… which is TV…. and NOT radio…. Face it Max, your attack was just that… an attack… AND ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR FRIGGIN LIES!!!
NOW, Idiot… Suppose you make a feeble attempt to explain how a brokered SALE deal, is a FED take-over??
From YOUR link Max —
“Federal regulators had been trying to broker a deal for Washington Mutual because a takeover by the FDIC would have dealt a crushing blow to the government’s deposit insurance fund.”
Lazy eyed freak!
Chas is looking at me but talking to you Max….I am confused….
Here ya go Chas-
“WaMu Assets Sold to JPMorgan in Record Bank Failure (Update2)
By Ari Levy and Elizabeth Hester
Sept. 26 (Bloomberg) — Washington Mutual Inc. was seized by government regulators and its branches and assets sold to JPMorgan Chase & Co. in the biggest U.S. bank failure in history.
WaMu became “unsound” after customers withdrew $16.7 billion since Sept. 16, the Office of Thrift Supervision said yesterday. Branches are open today and depositors have full access to their accounts, Sheila Bair, chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., said. “
Chas, you smell of lima beans and dog farts, go take a bath.
Chas,
Which part of this do you not understand?
was seized by federal regulators on Thursday night in an 11th-hour bid
So what was your radio news source Chas, or did you just make it up?
Oh and Chas, Fox News IS on the radio, as well as on TV, Cable, and The Internet.
Wrong again Chas.
A slogan for chas:
The DUH starts here…
“J.P. Morgan agreed to pay $1.9 billion to the government for WaMu’s banking operations”
To bring you up to speed on current events Chas, the North won the war against the South.
Chas is a covert WE Blog editor who’s charged with increasing blog posts. He intentionally posts idiotic posts to irritate just about everybody into replying to him numerous times. (No real person can possibly be as stupid as what Chas would have you believe.)
I currently have research grant requests pending at the NIH and the CDC, which will allow me to develop an online antibiotic to rid whatever web site you happen to browse across, of idiots like the Chas imposter.
Until my grant is approved and my antibiotic is available, whenever you might be tempted to respond to IT, please click this link instead:
http://www.squidoo.com/monkeybrain/hq
Palin vs. Biden in Alaska. Surprising Poll Numbers.
“What about the 80% approval rating?”
Palin is viewed favorably by…..drum roll please……62% of Alaskans surveyed. Yes, this is still more than half. But it is not 80% by a long shot.
But, here’s the important thing to understand. This 62% that feel favorably about her, do not necessarily think she can or should be Vice President. I feel favorably about a lot of people I’d never put in the VP slot. We need to look a little deeper.
See poll results at:
http://www.themudflats.net/
PROS Plan to Replay on City7
Date: September 26, 2008
Contact: Karen Walker, Park and Recreation Department
E-mail: KLWalker@wichita.gov
Phone: (316) 268-4361
Thursday’s televised City Hall meeting regarding the unveiling of a comprehensive parks and recreation plan will replay daily on cable channel 7 beginning 7 p.m. on Saturday. The City7 rebroadcast will air:
* 7 a.m. on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays;
* 8:30 p.m. on Tuesdays and Thursdays;
* 7 p.m. on Saturdays and Sundays.
The comprehensive effort to improve parks and recreational options is known as the Parks, Recreation and Open Space Plan, or PROS Plan. A goal of the PROS plan is to enhance Wichita’s status as one of the nation’s most livable and affordable cities, where people choose to live, work, play and relocate.
City officials will also present the draft PROS plan during a second public meeting from 9 to 10:30 a.m. on Saturday at CityArts, 344 N. Mead. Mayor Carl Brewer is scheduled to open the meeting.
“A vibrant parks and recreational system is important,” Brewer said. “It enhances our quality of life, supports economic development efforts and retains and attracts young people and families.”
Studies show that a high quality park system enhances property values, increases sales tax collection, boosts tourism-related expenditures, filters pollutants from the air and water, encourages youth to engage in healthy recreational activities and reduces healthcare expenses for families and employers.
“We want to go to the next level of a being a green community,” Doug Kupper, the City’s Director of Parks and Recreation, said. “We want a city where neighborhoods connect with pathways, families have easy access to playgrounds, recreational centers thrive as community gathering places and greenways improve our environment and urban tree canopy cools the city.”
More PROS information and a streaming video of the Thursday’s meeting will be available later at http://www.wichita.gov.
ANTI
Posted September 26, 2008 at 4:11 pm | Permalink
To bring you up to speed on current events Chas, the North won the war against the South.
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Which war was that?
You know, Korea is in a 50-year stalemate, I didn’t think either side won?
Oh right, you mean Vietnam!
Ok, the North did win that one.
It must be difficult to be Chas.
Chas, I did not stay at the Holiday Inn Express last night but I did stay at the FDIC Seidman Center.
You need to do a little homework on the FDIC before opening mouth or moving fingers.
Ummmm Max??? I SAID Fox nes on radio the First time you asked your damned nonsense!!
READ MAX!!!
You still didnt show where I said O
NE WORD about listening to PBS news… Still makes you the Blog’s worst IYING SOB!!! LOL
Linda, you really reached way up for that poll. I hope you can get your arm out.
http://www.themudflats.net/about/
Mudflats has been a long time coming. Until now it’s been written in my head, where posts repeated themselves incessantly until they were set free and inflicted verbally upon friends, coworkers and my spouse.
ANTI — you are sick… get help fast!!
Dumb Bastard!! Oooops — didnt mean to mention your mother!!
didnt mean to mention your mother!!
Welcome to the thrid grade.
Remember, when it comes to chas, the DUH starts with him.
Oh, and your poll Linda, published by DELAWARE online, Biden’s home state. Hmmmmm…..
And the demographics of the 601 “likely voters”? Not published.
(Get that arm out yet?)
http://www.themudflats.net/2008/09/26/palin-vs-biden-in-alaska-surprising-poll-numbers/
So, it was with great delight that I read about a new poll conducted by Fairleigh Dickinson University, in New Jersey. The poll questioned 601 likely voters in Alaska, and 601 in Delaware about how they rate their home state Vice Presidential candidates. This is not a massive poll by a well known group, but it’s something, and it was conducted from 9/17 to 9/21.
Pssst Linda —-
It doesnt matter what poll you link to… It comes from a Liberal….
Liberal Polls BAD
Conservative Polls GOOD
Conservative Polls that agree with Liberals —
HELL, WE DONT LISTEN TO NO POLLS ANYWAY!!
Save your key strokes, Linda… It doesnt matter… The Liberals are WINNING…. and there isnt anything they can do to stop us now!!
Chas Boy, I’m not playing your lil games today. If you can’t cite your source for your statement above, then that just makes you a big fat liar, and a crybaby too.
ROFLMAO! KILLIN MESELF FOR BEING SO NICE TO THE JERK!
Chas
Posted September 26, 2008 at 4:35 pm | Permalink
ANTI — you are sick… get help fast!!
Dumb Bastard!! Oooops — didnt mean to mention your mother!!
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Chas: doin’ the good Lords work, one post at a time!
The Truth is that Chas WAS listening to PBS radio and I really pithed him off!
(Tharting to talk like Barney Ffrank now!)
Chas doesn’t know that PBS news is on the radio, TV, and the Internet!
(Shhhhh……don’t tell him.)
Just saw that Jon Stewart speech comparison bit. Scary funny. Bush has serious zombie face going on in both of them.
google it, ’cause that’s what I did. you’ll be glad you did.
ANTI
Posted September 26, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink
Chas
Posted September 26, 2008 at 4:35 pm | Permalink
ANTI — you are sick… get help fast!!
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Actually I am, thanks for your concern. Been sucking down the Pepto all day…..Had some bad Mexican food last night! Wheeeew eeeee!!! It is odd that it effected me, as I am 1/2 Mexican by way of osmosis.
Damn Max — The EPA and Army Corps of Engineers are also Federal Regulators… Did they “take over” WaMu too???
http://www.nationalcenter.org/TSR062408.html
Chas
Posted September 26, 2008 at 4:49 pm | Permalink
Damn Max — The EPA and Army Corps of Engineers are also Federal Regulators… Did they “take over” WaMu too???
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Idiot……Pre, this is one of those intellectual midgets I was speaking of.
FFrom google: “federal regulators, specifically the Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers”
http://www.google.com federal regulators
PBS news is NOT on radio Max…. That would be NPR — Dimwit!!!
The ACLU is planning to bring paid outside agitators to Sioux Falls, SD the first weekend in October to influence the outcome of pro-life Measure 11 on the state’s November ballot, banning most abortions.
Pro-lifers are also targeting the one abortion mill in the state in Sioux Falls for shutdown.
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Another newborn girl appears to have been safely and legally abandoned at a Broward County, FL fire station Thursday. This is the 19th legal infant abandonment in Broward County since the safe haven program began in 2000.
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Tanya Renee McBride, 29, of Calcasieu Parish, LA was indicted Thursday on negligent homicide and second-degree battery charges in the death of an infant, Jase Dougay, born prematurely at 19 weeks gestation, because of injuries sustained by the mother, when the mother was kicked by McBride.
Sol, you said “watch out come this election, if they pass that turd”, nice pun.
Anyhow, how can we even be sure there will be an election? Al Qaeda may carry out some big new attack on us (at our weakest point) and we’d have to postpone it indefinitely.
Sorry, I just aspire to be a science fiction/Tom Clancy type writer one day.
I hear Twilight Zone music!
NOW MAX — Are you ever going to show where I said I listened to Public Radio news??? or are you just going to keep LYING your FRIGGIN ASS OFF — like normal???
Chas, I heard PBS news today on the Radio Picture.
Libs, put a bark collar on your chihuahua! PLEASE!!
You said you heard a radio news story Chas, which one?
Can’t remember?
Or just lying?
Max, tell your kid to turn down SciFi Channel, or else go take another pill!!!
No wait… You LIVE in the Twilight Zone… They are playing your SONG, Max!!!
Taco Bell sounds good.
Here ya go, Max. Another link to the info. One that may suit your delicate sensibilities better. Of course, this link was in the first link I posted since mudflats is very good about documentation.
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Alaskans like Palin, but give Biden the nod
Alaskans love the job their first-term governor, Sarah Palin, is doing. But when it comes to having the experience to be a good president or the ability to handle an international crisis, they give the nod to Delaware Sen. Joe Biden.
http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008809250356
I’ll be back later to check on the Radio-Picture-Web-Blogazine….
Chas, Chas…you weren’t talking about lil ol me were you?
“they give the nod to Delaware Sen. Joe Biden.”
Source: Delaware OnLine……hmmmm…
I know Linda, see my 4:41.
Your poll was published by an Online Delaware web site. You know, Delaware, as in Biden’s home state.
The poll was conducted by some NJ college nobody ever heard of before.
And the demographics of the 601 “likely voters”? Not published.
Fairleigh Dickinson University, in New Jersey – isn’t that where they filmed Animal House?
Even right-wing journalists don’t like Palin.
‘Palin should step down, conservative commentator says‘
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/palin-should-step-down-conservative-commentator-says/
Rethink Ron Paul, ya’ll. At least to give us all a fighting chance.
Sen. Edward Kennedy rushed to hospital: report
BOSTON (Reuters) – Ailing U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy was taken to a Cape Cod hospital on Friday after police received an emergency call he was not feeling well, the Boston Herald said on its website.
“It was a 911 rescue call. The caller said he wasn’t feeling well. He was taken to Cape Cod Hospital by Hyannis Rescue Squad,” the Herald quoted police Sgt. Ben Baxter as saying.
Baxter told the newspaper that Kennedy, 76, was conscious and alert when he was picked up by an ambulance.
McCain attacks the man in the mirror
In what some political observers are calling his most ironic speech of the 2008 campaign, GOP presidential nominee John McCain today lashed…
By Andy Borowitz
Syndicated columnist
In what some political observers are calling his most ironic speech of the 2008 campaign, GOP presidential nominee John McCain today lashed out at Washington, the Republican Party and a group of insiders he called “old white men with white hair.”
“It’s time to take our country back,” McCain told his audience in Dayton, Ohio. “It’s time to send a message to those in power — those Republicans in Washington, those old white men with their combed-over white hair.”
McCain went on to attack the power elite on Wall Street, calling them “wealthy plutocrats with private jets and too many houses to keep track of.”
“The time has come to say enough is enough to those rich old white men,” he said.
Responding to the nation’s economic turmoil, McCain said that as president, he would create millions of jobs “by putting Americans to work making negative ads.”
“We no longer lead the world in manufacturing cars, steel or computers,” McCain said. “But our negative-ad industry is second to none.”
In other economic news, President Bush announced another massive bailout today, saying that he had completed a deal for China to buy the United States in its entirety.
“This was a difficult deal to pull off,” Bush acknowledged. “The hard part was identifying the parts of the United States that China didn’t already own.”
“Power lunch”?
Only the narrow mind of a con could translate a friendly meeting as some sort of business….thing.
Heh, actually, meeting for lunch was originally Hank’s idea. I don’t think anyone ever took him up on it though. This MIGHT explain why the cons have a problem with it.
Yeah that’s probably it.
Andy Borowitz – Linda before you post links that make you look less than informed you really should look at the source.
BJ I am sorry if I gave you more credit than was due. I of course knew you couldn’t host a ‘power lunch’.
Just heard that Dodd is the top recipient of Fannie Mae dollars so of course the dims think he is the right person to head up the committee to bail them out.
I feel sorry for the honest democrats.
“It’s time to take our country back,” McCain told his audience in Dayton, Ohio. “It’s time to send a message to those in power — those Republicans in Washington, those old white men with their combed-over white hair.”
McCain went on to attack the power elite on Wall Street, calling them “wealthy plutocrats with private jets and too many houses to keep track of.”
Hmmmmm — Would he be talking about the “Princes of Greed” referenced by Herbert Hoover AFTER the Crash of ‘29??
If so, the response is: “Let’s take a look and see what happened.” (FDR) in RADIO address following 10/29/1929 —
YES I said RADIO ADDRESS!!
Linda you might ck another article of his that you will probably like also. It is ‘Cindy McCain Robot Gets New Head’. Yep a real believable ‘columnist’.
See Linda??? What did I tell you upthread?? ROFL!!!
TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT ARE NOT EXACTLY CORRECT.
Obama’s Not Quite Exactly:
1.) Selma March Got Me Born – NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga’s follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that….and for more.
Obama’s cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians’ homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father’s family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro).
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 4-3-08 Article ‘Obama was ‘quite religious in Islam” http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.’ This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says ‘Obama’s narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.’
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could ever speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience – NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Voting ‘Present’ is Common In Illinois Senate – NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 PRESENT or NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Mis-voted – NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your mis-vote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – NOT EXACTLY, you didn’t write it, introduce it, change it or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
! 22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA – NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel ..
30.) I Want All Votes To Count – NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.
31.) I Want Americans To Decide – NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
34.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.
35.) I don’t Have Lobbyists – NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – NOT EXACTLY, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.
38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it !
39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp – NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russian army did the liberating.
So, who EXACTLY is this Obama guy and what is he trying to sell us?
Chass I have tried to find something on the speech you attributed to McCain and can’t find anything but what you cut and pasted. No date, no other info. Give a valid link that can tie this to a speech ever given by McCain.
A speech like this would have drawn wide reporting from the MSM and I heard nothing. This looks like a blog post.
THIS is a very important Foreign Policy issue that I hope gets debated tonight.
They didn’t mention the name of the airline, but I believe it was Rickshaw Airlines.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,428442,00.html
Passengers Forced to Get Out and Push Broken Airplane Off Runway
Friday, September 26, 2008
A budget Chinese airline took flying pains to a new level Thursday after it made passengers get out and help push their broken plane to the gate, the Daily Mail reported.
The CRJ7 plane, with 69 passengers and seven crew members on board, had just flown from Guilin in the south of China, to Zhengzhou, the capital of Henan province. The plane landed safely but then died before it could taxi to the arrivals terminal.
Sol very good article. Let all who have eye see. But I have to warn you the author is not black enough.
Rickshaw Airlines has windows on their planes that actually roll down with a hand crank, once instructed by the pilot.
Passengers are seating depending on whether they are Right or Left handed.
Right handed passengers sit on the Right and upon command, stick their right arms out the windows and Flap, as instructed.
Left handed passengers do the same on the left side of the plane.
Speed is determined by passengers, and on-time arrivals are determined based on the cooperation and ability of the passengers.
Granny — I merely cut and pasted from Linda’s post earlier… You know, the one you castigated???
I got an idea… YOU go look it up, eh???
Dumb wench!!
Unfortunately, Rickshaw Airlines is not able to fly Sumo wrestlers.
Hey, I’ll even give you a hint:
google — “McCain Speech” + “Dayton”
Go for it!!
If you want to call something BS, try Sol’s FAKE POST… half truths and LIES… ALL of it!! Not to mention, from RACIST sources!!
Okobserver,
Pay no attention to the Phony Pastor. He knows not the stupidity of what he does. I suspect he is mentally handicapped, and/or he has tourette’s syndrome.
Thank you for your 7:40 post Chas, and numerous other posts here today.
You are trying very hard I know, but it is time for your medication and bedtime story now.
Have a good night, and may God bless you, and have mercy on your soul.
Chas, it shows who does and doesn’t have a funny bone. I could have said for a laugh, but gave credit where none was due and of course some aren’t capable of such a simple thing as laughter. ;-)
Ya know, I miss those cute little smiley faces we used to make. I only knew how to make one, but others could really make some cute ones!
(Says the other nut in the Cuckoo house.)
There are other things going on in the world today: Anybody watch natgeo and fusion man flying across the English Channel? Simply awesome!!!
Chas
Posted September 26, 2008 at 7:37 pm | Permalink
Granny — I merely cut and pasted from Linda’s post earlier… You know, the one you castigated???
I got an idea… YOU go look it up, eh???
Dumb wench!!
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Chass I used your search options and got an 8/30/08 speech that McCain gave in Dayton to the NAACP on school vouchers.
So until you can show me different then I will consider the source and know it is a load of crap.
Stop spreading falsehoods – You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Max I fear you are right about Chass. I mentioned tourettes a few days ago. Guess he didn’t take me seriously.
I feel sad that Linda doesn’t think we have a funny bone. Why the other day when she posted something McCain checking himself back into the Hanoi Hilton. I told her I didn’t see the humor in POW’s.
Burning Down The House
what happened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH–o
Naww… you could possibly do that… you’re too damned stupid!!
BOSTON (Reuters) – Ailing Sen. Edward Kennedy, a liberal giant and patriarch of America’s most storied political family, was examined and released from a Massachusetts hospital on Friday after suffering a mild seizure, officials said.
“Senator Kennedy experienced a mild seizure at home in Hyannis Port today and was taken to Cape Cod Hospital for examination,” said a statement from the office of the 76-year-old Massachusetts Democrat, who was diagnosed with brain cancer in May.
“Doctors believe the incident was triggered by a change in medication. Senator Kennedy will return home tonight and looks forward to watching the debate,” the statement added, referring to the presidential candidates’ debate between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama on Friday night.
Duh, voluntary oversight hasn’t been working for wall street banks!
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080926/sec_investment_banks.html?.v=1
Good to see the investigation will continue even if all palin’s aides and staff refuse to honor subpoenas.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080927/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate_13
Good night; Good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
Blessings on Jim Lehrer!! Great job!!
So mote it be!!
Here ya go Granny Goodwitch…. Just like Linda posted way up thread >>>>
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2008206960_opin27borowitz.html
Let me guess, Seattle Times is too liberal for you?? ROFL!!!