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On one hand there’s science, on the other hand there’s the bible which says pregnancy was a result of a person eating a fruit.
‘Redesigned Hammer’ That Forged Evolution Of Pregnancy In Mammals Found
ScienceDaily (Sep. 18, 2008) — Yale researchers have shown that the origin and evolution of the placenta and uterus in mammals is associated with evolutionary changes in a single regulatory protein, according to a report in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
“Many past studies have shown that genes are regulated and altered by changes within their own structures. This is the first work suggesting that the evolution of transcription factors — separate regulatory proteins — may play an active role in the origin and evolution of structural innovations like the placenta and uterus,” said senior author Gunter Wagner, the Alison Richard Professor of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology at Yale.
More of the story at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080918171155.htm
Good morning Randy Scholfield: I will speak for myself … I did appreciate your position on protecting our Kansas environment and particularly our valuable deep underground Ogallala aquifer water. It sounds like your new job in Boulder, Colorado, will appropriately build on your editorial attitude towards environmental issues.
On the other hand, I always wondered how a person with your intellect could support the white elephant downtown ice hockey arena with no viable tenant. Hopefully someday someone at the EAGLE will explain that situation.
McCain’s Pro-Vet Image Clashes With Record
McCain Garners More Support From Veterans Than Obama
By John Dougherty
PHOENIX — Sen. John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, continues to hold a substantial lead over his Democratic opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, among military veterans — despite the fact that Obama has consistently voted for higher increases in veterans’ health-care spending and advocated sweeping reforms at the Depart. of Veteran Affairs.
The most recent Gallup poll of registered voters, conducted in mid-August shortly before the Republican National Convention, showed that among those who had served in the military, 56 percent backed McCain, compared to 34 percent for Obama. Among all registered voters, Obama led McCain 46 percent to 43 percent.
The poll found that veterans favored McCain not because he is considered a war hero after his almost six years as a POW in North Vietnam. Rather, Gallup emphasized that because most veterans tend to be Republican–47 percent said they were Republican or leaned toward being so– they were simply backing their party’s presidential nominee.
Obama has certainly worked hard for veterans issues. As a member of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, the Illinois senator has pushed to end benefit disparities between veterans with combat and noncombat experience; get homeless vets off the streets; improve their mental health-care benefits; increase Depart. of Veteran Affairs funding and overhaul the administration of all vet benefits.
But Obama never served in the military. For some veterans, like many who attended the American Legion’s annual convention last month in Phoenix, that is what counts, not their allegiance to the GOP.
One was Vietnam veteran Bernard Randall, 63. He told me that he supports McCain because “he’s a veteran” with “more experience than Obama.” Randall, an Apache who served in the Marines in 1967-68, said health care is his top issue, and that McCain is more likely to do something about it. Randall’s views were echoed by a dozen other conventioneers, even after they watched a video of Obama addressing the gathering.
But is Randall’s and the other vets’ faith in McCain justified?
Not according to several veterans’ organizations that have given McCain low marks for his overall voting record on vet issues.
Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, a non-partisan advocacy group, gave McCain a “D” in 2006, while Obama earned a “B+.” The Vietnam Veterans of America reported that on 31 “key votes” between 2001 and 2008 on issues including veterans’ health-care funding and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, McCain opposed its positions 15 times, while supporting it eight times. In contrast, Obama, since elected to the Senate in 2004, backed the group’s stands 12 out of 13 times. The Disabled Veterans of America said McCain supported its positions 20 percent of the time in 2006, compared to Obama’s 80 percent.
There are several examples of the conflicting McCain and Obama votes, including McCain’s opposition to five bills that would increase funding for veteran healthcare programs and related facilities. A full list of those bills is available here.
Before Obama came to the Senate, McCain also cast votes against obtaining better equipment for troops. In 2003, for example, he voted to table an amendment that called for an additional $322 million for safety equipment for military forces in Iraq. The measure would have reduced reconstruction funds for Iraq by the same amount. In April 2003, he voted to table an amendment, that passed 52-47, to provide more than $1 billion in equipment for the National Guard and reserves to reduce a shortage of helmets, bullet-proof armor and other gear
McCain said that while the National Guard spending amendment included items “nice to have,” he condemned it because it was presented as an emergency measure and had not gone through the normal process with open debate. “This is neither the appropriate nor, I believe, fiscially the responsible thing to do at this time,” McCain said, “I urge a ‘no’ vote.”
Whether McCain’s relatively low rankings by veterans’ groups will drive a substantial number of vets to vote for Obama remains to be seen. For now, McCain enjoys strong support from veterans who hold his military service and experience as a POW in high regard. “He gets a lot of veteran support because most veterans have extreme respect for what he went through in the military,” retired Navy Capt. Mike Lumpkin, a Democrat who is running for a congressional seat in eastern San Diego County, told me. Lumpkin is a member of Obama’s veterans advisory group, Next Generation Veterans for Obama, and appeared on stage at the Democratic National Convention in Denver.
Lumpkin, who served 21 years as a Navy SEAL, said that he knows how powerful a record of military service can be in attracting voters. He told me he’s attracting strong crossover support from Republicans with military backgrounds in his congressional race. “There is an inherent bond and respect, especially for a career military officer,” he said.
In fact, McCain is also attracting significant cross-over support among veterans who are or lean Democrat — about 17 percent, according to the Gallup poll. Overall, McCain is the choice of 89 percent of vets who say they are Republican, while Obama wins 75 percent of veterans who say they are Democratic.
McCain’s support among veterans is comparable to that of President George W. Bush in 2004, who drew the support of 55 percent of veterans, against Sen. John Kerry’s 39 percent, in the last Gallup poll before the presidential election. Bush served stateside in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, while Kerry saw action in Vietnam and was wounded. Vets’ strong support for Bush, despite Kerry’s military record, is an another indication of their affinity for the Republican Party, according to Gallup.
Other polls echo Gallup’s August findings that McCain enjoys an advantage among veterans. Rasmussen Reports’ national telephone survey, conducted July 21-22, of 3,000 likely voters, which included 588 respondents who served in the military, found that veterans supported the GOP presidential nominee over Obama, 56 percent to 37 percent. By contrast, non-military respondents favored Obama 50 percent to 43 percent.
Yet, despite McCain’s support among veterans, he cannot take their backing for granted. One reason is Obama’s strong legislative record of supporting veterans now. The other is McCain’s checkered legislative record on vet issues.
The challenge for Obama is whether he can convince millions of veterans who historically vote for the Republican presidential nominee that he has their back covered far more than the former Navy POW.
Get over it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-_SMHNrlkQ
Listen closely for the talk of the NAU and Amero currency…they don’t exist right? Conspiracy theory crap?
This crap about the idea of decimating the value of the dollar to be on par with the Peso is not my opinion (or my “delusion”). I just feel like warning folks.
Maggotpunk
Posted September 19, 2008 at 6:02 am | Permalink
On one hand there’s science, on the other hand there’s the bible which says pregnancy was a result of a person eating a fruit.
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You must be a bitter, uncertain person, Maggie to think that you must constantly justify the personal choices that you have made. And that in order to do so you must attack others’ beliefs.
The uncertainty comes from deep within. And it won’t ever be resolved by denial.
It’s in the Bible outlander. That’s your problem, not mine, I didn’t write the stupid fairy tale.
DB highlights:
“…despite McCain’s support among veterans, he cannot take their backing for granted. One reason is Obama’s strong legislative record of supporting veterans now. The other is McCain’s checkered legislative record on vet issues.”
Did Mr. Obama quit smoking? It’s interesting that we NEVER see pictures of him with a cigarette like we used to. Did he quit, or his campaign just doesn’t want anyone to remember that he is an addict?
Regular
Posted September 19, 2008 at 2:32 am | Permalink
Send your checks, money orders or use your credit cards to send a donation on behalf of Barack Obama to the National Rifle Association (NRA)
https://www.nrahq.org/givejoinhelp/giving/general.asp
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Thing is, Obama isnt ANTI Gun!! Just for Gun accountability…. ROFL!!! You wouldnt want NRA to look like they support Obama, would you?? ROFLMAO!!!!
I would seem that Mr. McCain didnt have much of anybody’s back as a POW…. Doesnt seem like WE had his back much either — in retrospect, at least….
I = It —- typo
Sam, I do believe Obama accomplished what I have not been able to do… I remember a news segment that talked about him quitting…
Chas.. that would be good… if he does get elected, I think that portrays a poor image. I don’t think I have a single picture of my dad without a cigarette… makes me sad!
Actually I heard just recently that Obama is back to smoking. And he still maintains his temper better than McSame. Only a freak would consider Obama an addict for smoking. Wait- I thought it was all the ‘liberals’ who were pushing the non smoking thing? I guess this shows- twasn’t at all.
Does anyone really care or find it a personality flaw that Obama smokes? Please.
Randy Scholfield,
I can’t say I am sorry you are leaving. You pretty much single-handedly forced me to cancel my subscription to the print version of the Eagle in self-defense of my sanity from your liberal, socialist views. That seemed to my the most effective way to vote my opinion of your views.
That honesty out of the way I want to wish you and your family the very best in happiness and success. I hope you will be able to look back someday and bless your move to Colorado, but not your leaving Wichita, and consider your time here a blessing as well, have good feelings about being in Wichita.
Your views will be much more at home in the radically liberal stronghold of Boulder.
I good naturedly envy you over the natural beautiful area of the country you will be moving to.
Best of Luck! Oh, and God Bless You and Yours.
Good morning, I have not posted here in quite awhile. I went to the State and County Candidate Forum meeting last night in Osawatomie Kansas. Treasurer Jenkins, Senator Apple, Representative Feuborn, etc:.. were in attendance. So was I as a Candidate for Sheriff. I suggested the following for budget money. If each family in our county utilized the State and Federal allowable tax deductable donations too the cities and county budget in the amount 0f $100.oo a year, or $8.25 a month we could generate budget funds and tax relief. If 5000 families do this in Miami County Kansas, that would be $500,000.oo a year in donations specific to where they place the donation to the budgets. Take this amount times the 105 counties in Kansas. That is $10,250,000.oo a year staying in the counties and cities of Kansas for direct citizens tax relief and budget revenues! Take that times 50 States. That is an average of $512,500,000.oo a year staying at the local levels for city/county budget and tax relief funds. Damn!!! Herbert West 3rd. Candidate for Sheriff, Miami County Kansas. http://www.HerbertWest3rd.com west.herb@yahoo.com
Randy is leaving? NO! God someone has to be the voice of reason around here.
Box stop gloating. Nobody forced you to cancel your subscription. Just looking yesterday at Values Boy’s comparison of his little basement flood to 911 and Katrina was enough to make me hurl.
You had plenty of reason to keep your subscription.
If someone had to leave why was it not right wing Rhonda Holman?
That vacuous bit of neocon fluff hasn’t written anything in meaningful in years! Lately, she has taken to bi lining the open threads!
I canceled my subscription to the right wing business rag Eagle some years ago. My neighbor shares his copy with me.
I think rather than read that garbage, I’ll just recycle the paper and be done with it.
Oh and Eagle? Be aware that the bloggers here have choices. Now I remember a time when this was the second most posted newspaper blog in the country. But you let a right wing poster force registration on us and you have made other poor decisions. My guess is you do not share news about the blog lately because the resulting news is not good. Just sayin’….
Governor Palin’s husband refuses to honor a lawfully issued subpoena.
Governor Palin will not speak to investigators.
The Palin’s are above the law already?
P_mama,
I am AM GLOATING to an extent. Now I feel at least somewhat safer about reading the paper in the morning without the Dim/Lib socialist comments of Randy Scholfield. And, I will renew my subscription as soon as I return home from a business trip, letting them know why as well.
I voted, so to speak, and just maybe it had something to do with the wonderful opportunity Randy now has in Boulder.
See, it all worked out well, for me as well as Randy, hopefully and sincerely. I don’t wish him harm, even though we vehemently disagree, but I’m glad I don’t have to suffer his views.
PS:
P_mama,
Now…..I wonder what I might be able to do about you! Ha!
pleefer: Think of the sources as to North American Union, and who is reporting it. Yes, there is a nutjob “reportng” out there with a diatribe only the unread would accept. Do you honestly think the Canadians would want to be associated with a NAU? Hell, they only joined the OAS 15 years ago at the request of the US , and I hear are getting out of that. Closer commercial ties perhaps, but a common currency would give too much power to the greenback so as to actually run both Mexican and Canadian fiscal policies, in otherwords their national budgets and ability to adjust currencies as they saw fit. I’m waiting for the next Fox news bite about 2 million Chinese poised on each border ready to: 1)attack, or 2) build a super highway from Mexico to the Arctic with the full support of Mexico City and Ottawa. Take your pick of 1) or 2) as the moodswing fits.
“Governor Palin’s husband refuses to honor a lawfully issued subpoena.”
I wasn’t aware that you had that option when subpoenaed.
Certainly the Palin’s have and continue to feel that they are above the law.
interesting comment by BJ..:
“But you let a right wing poster force registration on us”
And, if I remember correctly, it was the left wing fanatics, specifically capn, who were constantly screaming about trolls, and nic stealing, etc. etc., etc. There were continual outraged demands, including a short lived “strike” by the “fists of freedom” demanding registration or some kind of name accountability. Remember that, BJ??
>Does anyone really care or find it a personality flaw that Obama smokes? Please.<
ask anyone who smokes if it is an truthfully an addiction or not. it’s not a “personality flaw”.. but does show a weakness in his will!
Just want to wish Randy and his family the best of luck.
I haven’t agreed with his politics one bit, but I haven’t been silent either!
Best of luck in your new endeavor.
“Remember that, BJ??”
I do indeed vulture.
And while I was not on board and even protested that action, I DO note that the Eagle completely ignored it.
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Chas
Posted September 19, 2008 at 6:58 am | Permalink
Regular
Posted September 19, 2008 at 2:32 am | Permalink
Send your checks, money orders or use your credit cards to send a donation on behalf of Barack Obama to the National Rifle Association (NRA)
https://www.nrahq.org/givejoinhelp/giving/general.asp
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Thing is, Obama isnt ANTI Gun!! Just for Gun accountability…. ROFL!!! You wouldnt want NRA to look like they support Obama, would you?? ROFLMAO!!!!
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I was hoping for contributors to fund the NRA legal defense fund, so Obama can know that monies donated on his behalf will be fighting against his leftist leanings. :)
Looks like Scholfield got Olbermanned clean out of town. :)
Why do the libtards support privacy for terrorist, but not for Sarah Palin?
Maybe the Eagle ignored it because they don’t respond to demands? They didn’t respond to a “walkout” by the ‘fists of freedom’, yet they did respond to a reasonable, mature and adult request?
What an amazing concept…rational discussion gets results when temper tantrums do not.
Subpeanas are to appear. They cannot force anyone to speak. Look at the 5th Admendment. Herbert West 3rd, Candidate for Sheriff, Miami County Kansas. http://www.HerbertWest3rd.com west.herb@yahoo.com http://www.wen2k.com
“Now I feel at least somewhat safer about reading the paper…”
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Study says political attitudes are genetic
Researchers suggest the key to people’s biases lies in their differing levels of fear.
Compared to staunch liberals, people with strongly conservative views were three times more fearful…
http://www.kansas.com/news/nation_world/story/534632.html
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Be afraid, be very afraid!
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lindainks55
Posted September 19, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink
“Now I feel at least somewhat safer about reading the paper…”
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Study says political attitudes are genetic
Researchers suggest the key to people’s biases lies in their differing levels of fear.
Compared to staunch liberals, people with strongly conservative views were three times more fearful…
http://www.kansas.com/news/nation_world/story/534632.html
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Be afraid, be very afraid!
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Yes, it’s called the “White Flag” or “Springteen” gene. It causes those with liberal tendencies to violently arm flail, while making that high frequency, shrill shriek of desperate whining. :D
“Compared to staunch liberals, people with strongly conservative views were three times more fearful…”
“while making that high frequency, shrill shriek of desperate whining. :D”
…and the quote from the article again, “‘I don’t believe any of this,’ he said. ‘The people who are most scared are less in favor of gun control. Why wouldn’t they be more in favor? Because they need guns to fight the bad guys?”
Any one else see Max and the Phelps, uh, er Price gang here?
“I canceled my subscription to the right wing business rag Eagle some years ago. My neighbor shares his copy with me.”
Reads it, doesn;t pay for it.
Linda…did you read the entire article instead of just the little bit you cut/pasted? I refer to the part about:
“Jon Krosnick, a political science professor at Stanford University, said it was impossible to draw any conclusions from a study with so few people all drawn from a small Midwestern town. What’s more, it’s just too squishy interpreting people’s reactions.”
Too small a sample, not worth drawing any conclusions from it…yet you post it as if it is fact? Grasping at straws to ‘prove’ that libs are “better”??
Parents among our readers should be aware.
Today is the last day to submit an “opt out” form to your teenage student’s school.
2 provisions of the “No Child Left Behind” act allow the United States military to harvest your child’s personal information from their school records. This is done without parental consent and is used by military recruiters.
Only by completing and submitting to your school office this opt out form can you keep your child’s personal information out of the hands of the military. If you have filed the form in the past, be aware that you must renew each and every year.
You pretty much single-handedly forced me to cancel my subscription to the print version of the Eagle
Boxlock, I’ll ask you the same question I’ve asked my kids since they were old enough to move. Who held a gun to your head and forced you to do this?
You made a choice, just as each of us does hundreds of times a day. It’s part of life. It’s like breathing, except we don’t have to choose to breathe.
Besides, if someone had held a gun to your head, you still were the one to make a choice.
Stop whining.
Sursum,
We are in a “Post 9-11″ world (whatever that means) and with that mindset and the “globalization” everyone is vying for, I certainly do believe the Canadian power-elite, much like the American and Mexican elite do want it and regardless of whether or not the people want it (right now) is irrelevant. The goal is to get the economy so bad as to have the people beg for a solution…which is readily at hand with the so-called “NAU”.
As an example of the mindset, here’s what Kissinger has to say,
“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”
- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
Only by completing and submitting to your school office this opt out form can you keep your child’s personal information out of the hands of the military.
Where have you been the last 7 years? They already have the personal info, they just don’t tell you they have it. By filling out that form won’t keep anyone out of your business, it just causes them to think you have something to hide and cause them to dig harder. My taxes are high enough without having to pay for the 24/7 tail they’d put on me for filling out a stinkin’ scrap of paper.
If anyone stepped on the GOBN of conservatism, or spoke up for the little guy it was Randy. I suspected he would be a victim of the merger. The powers that be in Wichita didn’t like the fact that he made people think, which was such an exercise for cons. that many ended up cancelling their subscriptions, just so they wouldn’t have to.
Maybe Randy can still publish at the Eagle, on the weblog.
Not that the liberals need any help.
Phantom,
From what I’ve heard Randy wasn’t a victim. He was low man on the totem pole so he went out and found an excellent opportunity for himself and his family instead of waiting to see what might be decided. As smart people do — he acted instead of being forced to react. It is our loss, but sounds like a great thing for him! I will miss him and wish him and his well.
“Linda…did you read the entire article instead of just the little bit you cut/pasted?”
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I did read it Raptor. I agree it was absolutely too small a sample, and all those other things you said. I didn’t post it as a fact! When I read someone say something about being less afraid to read a newspaper I remembered that article from my morning reading of the paper and it seemed to fit. I chuckled at both the study and someone being afraid to read a newspaper.
Just a coincidence that the only true progressive editor is the one to leave? I think there’s likely more to the story. I’m sure some leaders of industry have made their views known to the papers mgmt.
People that wouldn’t buy a paper because one of the contributors had opposing views, are the same people that support a Mayor’s right to decide what books a library stocks. The small/weak minded.
Could be right, Phantom. If that is the case maybe I need to look for another paper to share with my morning coffee. Hutchinson has a daily, maybe I’ll look into that! Newspaper readers know they are reading old news. We know that news was put to bed to allow time for printing, delivery… It’s the experience (not the news!) most of us have grown accustomed to over the years — holding the paper, sitting at the table, or in an easy chair or on the throne. I like that experience, but I can change. Not quickly, or even easily, but I’m up to it!
Isn’t is fascinating? Boxlox cancels his paper because he thinks it is full of screaming socialists (his frequent bugaboo) and Blue Jay cancels his because of the right-wingers taking over.
Looks like the newspaper is doing its job – afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted.
Dennis
Ahh..got it, Linda. Sorry about my accusation, I was off base.
“Now I feel at least somewhat safer about reading the paper in the morning”
Thanks for confirming what we already knew.
Bedwetter.
I despise values boy. I’m certainly not afraid of him.
Linda, there are some GREAT papers available on line :) I read them every morning.
And then I come here…
Why does BeeJay want privacy for her children but not Sarah Palins children?
I read papers online too, farmgrrl. Online is where I go for news. Reading the actual newspaper is an experience of habit, something I enjoy. I can get over it, I’ve gotten over other habits.
I stopped taking the paper for many years when they ran Cal Thomas twice a week with no rebuttal from the other side.
I re-subscribed when they started running Paul Krugman. Granted, they don’t run his really liberal stuff, but something is better than nothing.
Speaking of the paper, did anyone see the front page article today that reported the BUSHCON FDA is allowing genetically altered meat to be sold without labelling.
Just what I want, eat a pork chop that’s got kangaroo DNA in it or something.
Looks like it’s all organic for me and mine.
Let the poor play guinea pig with Frankenfood, as always . . .
I have something to say. I was born after the “great depression,” but the Republicans had control in 1929–October is coming–
St. Paul dropping all misdemeanor charges for journalists arrested during RNC
Charges will be dropped against journalists who were arrested and charged with misdemeanors for unlawful assembly during the Republican National Convention, St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman said today.
Many reporters, photographers and bloggers were among the 818 people arrested during the Sept. 1-4 convention. Many were trapped on a bridge with protesters on the Thursday night, just before Sen. John McCain made his acceptance speech. Police had warned the large group to dissipate, then closed in from both sides of the bridge and made mass arrests.
http://tinyurl.com/5ybmdt
My taxes are high enough without having to pay for the 24/7 tail they’d put on me for filling out a stinkin’ scrap of paper.
Nope. No paranoia there. How’s your aluminum foil bill?
Some food for thought:
http://www.slate.com/id/2197115/pagenum/all/#page_start
wherein the author identifies four things to be concerned about “in the fall”. One of these is the proliferation of state-controlled enterprises, noting the largest oil companies are all state-owned, which hold the lion’s share of the world’s reserves.
Good reading, and thoughtfully written.
Sandra Bernhard: “Palin Would Be Gang-Raped By Blacks in Manhattan”
Not sure what to make of that one.
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5839282
Sarah Palin just can’t seem to find the time to release her tax returns.
Hmmm . . . how hard is that?
Where Are Sarah Palin’s Tax Returns?
Vice Presidential Candidate Has Yet to Share Her Filings
By JUSTIN ROOD and MARCUS BARAM
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As election day comes ever nearer, Democrats and open-government advocates are pressing for the GOP vice presidential candidate to release her tax filings, a campaign tradition that extends at least to the post-Watergate era.
Instead, Palin has to date declined to share the documents, becoming part of an ever-more-select historical group of candidates who waited until this late in a campaign year to release their tax filings.
Since 1976, every major-party presidential and vice-presidential candidate has provided that information to the public, according to an analysis by ABC News.
[In contrast to Palin's hiding], Last week the Obama-Biden campaign released 10 years’ worth of tax returns for Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., in a move intended to pressure the McCain-Palin camp to do the same for Palin, currently governor of Alaska.
David Letterman banned Bernhardt from his show after 15 years ago.
She’s one weird wench . . .
Regular
Posted September 19, 2008 at 8:28 am | Permalink
Looks like Scholfield got Olbermanned clean out of town. :)
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Actually I heard he was looking for work, given the difficult time in print journalism. Randy found a job in Boulder where they are considered one of the greenest communities in America. They have an excellent public transportation, and they are more liberal. I would say it is a good match for Randy and his family. Congratulations.
Randy had the least amount of tenure on the Editorial board, but I have heard rumors that tenure is not the only thing considered and that staff with much more longevity have been laid off.
It is a sad time.
Another rumor I have heard is that the Eagle will be doing more business coverage. The only flaw with that plan is that people usually don’t like reading about business news when it is so horribly bad.
CraponAmeriKa- Where Are Sarah Palin’s Tax Returns?
Vice Presidential Candidate Has Yet to Share Her Filings.
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I’m sure the hackers from the Ones campaign will have them by monday.
‘Sarah Palin’s Inbox Reveals Possible Troopergate Smoking Guns‘
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erik-ose/sarah-palins-inbox-reveal_b_127771.html
Jog on, cosmos.
ANTI,
You didn’t find that link interesting?
Maybe ANTI will like this one?
‘Palin’s Anti-Rape-Investigation Stance Raised by McCain Campaign. Will Reporters Question?‘
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-schmeltzer/palins-anti-rape-investig_b_126763.html
“The McCain campaign paints this as a process story – that Monegan was going to DC to get money to prosecute rape, when the Governor didn’t OK that request.
I’d say it raises a huge question. Why is it that the Governor of the state with the highest per capita rate of forcible rape, who requested hundreds of billions in earmarks, not want to fight for Federal dollars to help law enforcement in the state investigate and prosecute rape?”
cosmos_originally
Posted September 19, 2008 at 2:55 pm | Permalink
ANTI,
You didn’t find that link interesting?
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Not particularly.
pleefer: The US economy is in bad shape but the guys up north run surpluses, have been able to dodge the economic bullet by reason of more stringent(socialist?) banking protocols and a taxation system used in Europe that taxes consumption, distributes wealth more fluently but does not hinder production. They have a lower corporate rate of taxation for instance than the US. Actually that “socialist” country Sweden has the lowest corporate rate. Kissinger has said a lot of things but being Jewish he cannot be Pope, therefore not infallable and should not be taken for gospel. In the case you cite he was speaking to a specifically oriented audience and like many, tuned his remarks to the folks at hand. He’s even said that being a friend of the US can be very dangerous but then Churchill once remarked he would come up with something nice to say about the devil, if it would help defeat Hitler. I’m following the election in Canada now, it runs for 6 weeks, and political candidates cannot spend more than 70 cents per voter with no more than $60,000.00 per candidate. That means their next PM will have spent only $60 thousand to get elected as part of his party’s national total of $18 million. I’ve heard it said the Presidency will cost the winner about $1 billion dollars. Lastly, Mexico and the US are Congressional Republics whereas Canada is a Parliamentary Democacy and there is no way anybody will give up how they are governed, there is just too many ingrained differences ever to make a Political Union work.
Box does seem to think he’s all powerful now that he has complained and poof Randy is gone.
We need more liberal viewpoints not less. Especially in this area. There are a ton of conservative writers for this newspaper, why ditch just the left? I’m really upset and want to know.
I wish there was a way to subscribe to ONLY the online version of the newspaper- I don’t want the waste.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/undermining-mcc.html
Seems the New York Post opinion piece about Sen. Obama’s urging delay in withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq wasn’t true, according to others present, including Sen. Hagel, staffers (from both parties) for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Mr. al Malaki.
As was Pre, I was wondering why the allegations made therein hadn’t had more play; this might be the reason.
Too funny! General Motors Bob Lutz uses the very bogus OISM petition to deny AGW, on comedian Stephen Colbert’s show.
‘GM Vice-chair touts “Volt” but still denies climate science‘
http://www.desmogblog.com/gm-vice-chair-touts-volt-but-still-denies-climate-science
To watch the video (in the U.S.), click the link at “UPDATE:” here,
http://getenergysmartnow.com/2008/09/17/lutz-remains-a-putz-on-global-warming-denial/
Cosmos,
So what are you going to do as the climate keeps cooling and all the predictions made by the alarmists keep falling short and don’t happen at all?
Nathaniel
Posted September 19, 2008 at 4:10 pm | Permalink
Cosmos,
So what are you going to do as the climate keeps cooling and all the predictions made by the alarmists keep falling short and don’t happen at all?
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I’m guessing cosmos will crawl out of his grass hut, go down to Gander Mountain and purchase a -15 degree rated poly-fill sleeping bag. Then tell us to wait 10 more years for the warming to kick in.
The difference between the two candidates on gun rights couldn’t be any more clear.
Obama makes very general and vague statements while his voting record speaks negatively.
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/additional/Obama_FactSheet_Western_Sportsmen.pdf
McCain makes very specific points and has a much better voting record.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/77636553-6337-4ecd-b170-49e1c07d2fbd.htm
Nathan – I can’t speak for cosmos but this scientist would be doing two things. (1) celebrating that the ill effects of warming don’t have to be faced and (2) looking again at all the data to learn more about the science.
However, your “keeps cooling” is false at this time – there is no evidence to support that claim.
Mayor Headlines Local Family Day Event
Date: September 19, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
Download the following attachments:
* Family Day Information Flyer
* Family Day Schedule of Events
Wichita Mayor Carl Brewer is scheduled to speak during a Family Day Wichita event on Monday, Sept. 22. Organized by the Stand Together Coalition, Family Day Wichita runs today through Monday, when Mayor Brewer will headline a news conference at Popeyes Chicken, 4232 W. Central.
Family Day is a national event that encourages parents and their children to spend time together, especially during dinnertime. Please see attachments for events schedule and more information.
“Dinner should be a family tradition that tightens the bond between parents and children and grows strong families,” Mayor Brewer said. ”I’m asking Wichita families to have dinner on Monday and more often.”
The annual event, which is celebrated on the fourth Monday in September, was launched in 2001 by The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University. A Columbia study found that the more children eat dinner with their family the less likely they are to smoke, drink or use drugs. It also found that children who have frequent family dinners perform better academically than those who do not. For more information on Family Day, visit http://www.casafamilyday.org/ or contact Mildred Edwards at (316) 262-2421.
Ben, you might also add that Science doesnt run on the assumptions of superstitions, either…
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Chas
Posted September 19, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
Ben, you might also add that Science doesnt run on the assumptions of superstitions, either…
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There are several PhD scientists in my family, none of them claim to be an expert on climate change. They have unqualified opinions, which, is what Ben should be stating.
Nathaniel posted September 19, 2008 at 4:10 pm
“So what are you going to do as the climate keeps cooling and all the predictions made by the alarmists keep falling short and don’t happen at all?”
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Nathaniel,
What are you going to do when you realize that you’re a gullible, unscientific person who has been deceived by lies from people like Dennis Avery and Steven Milloy?
2007, with cooling from a La Nina and a solar minimum, tied 1998, which had warming from a record El Nino.
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cosmos_originally
Posted September 19, 2008 at 5:00 pm | Permalink
Nathaniel posted September 19, 2008 at 4:10 pm
“So what are you going to do as the climate keeps cooling and all the predictions made by the alarmists keep falling short and don’t happen at all?”
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Nathaniel,
What are you going to do when you realize that you’re a gullible, unscientific person who has been deceived by lies from people like Dennis Avery and Steven Milloy?
2007, with cooling from a La Nina and a solar minimum, tied 1998, which had warming from a record El Nino.
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cosmos, the non-scientist, should be the last person on this blog lecturing people about what positions they should hold on climate change.
cosmos extent of science comes from hyperlinks and op ed pieces on the Web. That’s worse than a jailhouse lawyer.
Poor advice and even worse outcomes.
And the multi-nic’d, retired Industrial Hygiene engineer posts his usual stupid ad hominems. . .
Some good coverage of this bogus skeptic claim,
‘We’re heading into a new Little Ice Age’
http://www.skepticalscience.com/heading-into-new-little-ice-age.htm
#
cosmos_originally
Posted September 19, 2008 at 5:19 pm | Permalink
And the multi-nic’d, retired Industrial Hygiene engineer posts his usual stupid ad hominems. . .
Some good coverage of this bogus skeptic claim,
‘We’re heading into a new Little Ice Age’
http://www.skepticalscience.com/heading-into-new-little-ice-age.htm
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You are not a scientist cosmos.
Your opinion is no worse or no better than anyone else.
However, it is just your opinion.
You have no credibility when it comes to a very specific science, because you are not a scientist.
You’re not even a scientist who has years of research in climate science and or study.
As I said, you’re nothing more than a Jailhouse lawyer trying to make himself look important in a field way out of your expertise.
You’re a joke cosmos.
Has anyone read anything from mrcontroversey since the KSU – Louisville game Wednesday night? I’m becoming concerned..
The multi-nic’d, retired Industrial Hygiene engineer posts more of his usual stupid, irrelevant ad hominems. . .
And on a different subject,
‘Little or No Jail Time Likely for Palin Hacker’
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/palin-hack-migh.html
Cosmos,
As opposed to your usual stupid ad hominems?
Nathaniel posted September 19, 2008 at 5:31 pm
“Cosmos,
As opposed to your usual stupid ad hominems?”
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No. . . as opposed to my posts, which are based on facts, such as,
‘Outrage in the Climate Science Community Continues Over the “500 Scientist” List‘
http://www.desmogblog.com/outrage-in-the-climate-science-community-continues-over-the-500-scientist-list
VT – I haven’t. He is undoubtedly in mourning.
Obama Laments Debt, But Promises Billions for Anti-Poverty Program
by FOXNews.com
Friday, September 19, 2008
Barack Obama speaks to reporters following a meeting with his top economic advisers Friday. (
By Bill Sammon
Barack Obama, who lamented Friday that “we have not managed our federal budget with any kind of discipline,” is nonetheless promising to spend $50 billion on a United Nations anti-poverty program that critics say will drive up American debt.
“The short-term weakness in the capital market is a reflection of long-term problems that we have in our economy,” Obama told reporters in Florida. “We have been loading up enormous amounts of debt.”
Yet Obama and his running mate, Joe Biden, have pledged tens of billions in new spending on a U.N. program that promises cash to poor countries. The program is one of eight sweeping “Millennium Development Goals” the U.N. adopted in 2000.
“Obama and Biden will embrace the Millennium Development Goal of cutting extreme poverty around the world in half by 2015, and they will double our foreign assistance to $50 billion to achieve that goal,” the candidates vow in their campaign platform.
Johns Hopkins professor Steve Hanke said such spending would merely drive up American debt, while doing almost nothing for the world’s poor.
“It goes down a bureaucratic rat-hole, lining the pockets of people who are connected to the power structure,” said Hanke, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. “It’s basically a system to redistribute income from middle class people in the United States to rich people in poor countries. It never reaches those people who are living on a dollar a day.”
Hanke said such expenditures are especially unwise in the wake of significant expansions of government and spending during President Bush’s tenure.
“We’ve been spending like drunken sailors and making obligations into the future like drunken sailors,” he said. “We’re on an unsustainable path in terms of the fiscal situation in the United States because of massive spending growth and commitments.”
Obama said he wants to curtain at least one of those costly commitments.
“We have spent well over half a trillion dollars — soon to be a trillion dollars — on a war in Iraq, despite the fact that Iraqis are now running surpluses,” the Illinois senator said Friday. “We’re still spending $10 billion a month there.”
But in December, Obama also sponsored the Global Poverty Act which, if passed, would require the president to commit to cutting global poverty in half by 2015. Critics say that would cost American taxpayers $845 billion.
Susan Rice, one of Obama’s top foreign policy advisers, says the U.S. should give 0.7 percent of its Gross Domestic Product to developing nations.
Bill Sammon is Washington deputy managing editor for FOX News Channel.
What’s 50 billions, bush and co. have blown trillions.
Bush ain’t runnin, in case you haven’t heard!
bush44 can’t win.
Compensation figures for [Obama's] legislative staff reveal that Obama pays women just 83 cents for every dollar his men make.
A watchdog group called LegiStorm posts online the salaries for Capitol Hill staffers.
Based on these calculations, Obama’s 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama’s average male employee earned $54,397.
Obama’s 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.
Among Obama’s five be e was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.
Again, on average, Obama’s female staffers earn just 83 cents for every dollar his male staffers make. This figure certainly exceeds the 77-cent threshold that Obama’s campaign website condemns. However, 83 cents do not equal $1. In spite of this 17-cent gap between Obama’s rhetoric and reality, he chose to chide GOP presidential contender John McCain on this issue.
Obama responded Aug. 31 to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s Republican vice-presidential nomination. Palin “seems like a very engaging person,” Obama told voters in Toledo , Ohio . “But I’ve got to say, she’s opposed — like John McCain is — to equal pay for equal work. That doesn’t make much sense to me.”
McCain’s 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.
On average, according to these data, women in John McCain’s office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, al l, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart — while adding $10,726 to her annual income — by leaving Barack Obama’s office and going to work for John McCain.
Among [McCain's] top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women.
In short, these statistics suggest that John McCain is more than fair with his female employees, while Barack Obama — at the expense of the women who work for him — quietly perpetuates the very same pay-equity divide that he loudly denounces.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/378772_murdockonline12.html
In an appearance in Nevada, anti-gun presidential candidate Barack Obama told his followers:
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face,” he said.
“And if they tell you that, ‘Well, we’re not sure where he stands on guns.’ I want you to say, ‘He believes in the Second Amendment.’” (http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8999386&nav=168XYT17)
Barack Obama has gone beyond lying about his long anti-gun record. Now he is inciting his followers to lie for him and to be aggressive and confrontational with anyone who will not buy his lies.
The truth must scare Obama, and the truth is, Barack Obama is the most anti-gun candidate who has ever run on a major party ticket in American history. Don’t buy Obama’s lies. Or the lies repeated by his misguided followers.
For the truth, visit GunBanObama.com.
“Thus, while I may favor common-sense gun control laws, that doesn’t keep me from reaching out to NRA members who are worried about their lack of health insurance.”
-Senator Obama
http://www.blackcommentator.com/48/48_cover.html
Boxlock,
Are you going to post facts re whether the men and women were doing equal work?
‘Obama’s alleged pay gap’
http://www.legistorm.com/blog/obama-s-alleged-pay-gap.html
“We were not, however, the source for the analysis that led to conclusion about equal pay. That analysis was solely done by Murdock. We do not take a position either for or against Murdock’s analysis. We will simply note that there has been some debate about the validity of his claims because he did not include consideration of whether the men and women were doing equal work. Whether this criticism was valid is also something we do not take a position on.”
Here is an operational link for:
For the truth, visit GunBanObama.com.
http://gunbanobama.com/
Recently the Associated Press noted that “McCain has not shown up for eight Senate votes last year and this year to extend [renewable energy] tax credits, which expire at the end of this year. The last such vote was July 30.” Yet at an Aspen Institute meeting in August, when McCain was asked about those missed votes, he simply lied to the audience.
“I have a long record of that support of alternate energy,” McCain said. “I come from a state where we have sunshine 360 days a year … I’ve always been for all of those and I have not missed any crucial vote.”
http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/09/20/john_mccain_environment/
Maybe if he wins he will stop lying?-db
Hey Predestined-to stupidity,
I said;
‘forced me to cancel my subscription to the print version of the Eagle in self-defense of my sanity from your liberal, socialist views.’
I made a choice, forced in the interest of my own self-defense. It would be pretty shortsighted not to make that choice….maybe that’s what is wrong with you, you didn’t and kept reading it.
And comatose, er…cosmos, your comment of “did not include consideration of whether the men and women were doing equal work”, is exactly the argument the DimLibs ignore consistently when criticizing difference in pay. You Dolt.
Boxlock,
Your copy/paste mangled “Among Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman”
And Murdock’s own analysis suggests why the pay ratios are different.
It’s equal pay for equal work, NOT equal pay for unequal work.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/378772_murdockonline12.html
“Why this disparity? One reason may be the under-representation of women in Obama’s highest-compensated ranks. Among Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.
…
One explanation could be that women compose a majority of McCain’s highest-paid aides. Among his top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women. The Republican presidential nominee relies on women — much more than men — for advice at the highest, and thus, best-paid levels.”
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http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Deroy_Murdock
“For the truth, visit GunBanObama.com.”
What a f**king joke you are, Box! You wouldn’t know truth if it bit you in the ass.
See video,
‘Obama: Lilly Ledbetter Ad on Equal Pay and McCain’s lame response‘
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/19/18730/3248/31/604085
“The narrative is
“I worked at this plant for 20 years before I learned the truth. I’d been paid 40% less than men doing the same work.
John McCain opposed a law to give women equal pay for equal work. And he dismissed the wage gap, saying women just need education and training. I had the same skills as the men at my plant. My family needed that money. On the economy, it’s John McCain who needs an education.”
Great ad….truth hurts, doesn’t it?
I can remember when employment ads were catagorized as “men’s work” and “women’s work” and the excuse for unequal pay was that “men were supporting family’s and women were just earning extra money to supplement their husband’s income”. I remember when women had to sign a statement that they wouldn’t get pregnant before they could get hired.
The good ‘ole days weren’t so good for women.
Ooops. . .
‘Exclusive: New Doubts Over Palin’s Troopergate Claims
Internal Government Document Contradicts Sarah Palin, Campaign ‘
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5844710&page=1
I remember when a women was raped, defense lawyers made a big deal of how she was dressed during the attack or if she had a sexual history. I remember when a woman couldn’t get credit in her own name or even own a home if she wasn’t married.
I was turned down for a constuction loan once and was told it was because I was a woman trying to do a man’s work.
I’d better stop, because now I’m getting pissed.
Any woman who’d vote for McCian has to be a moron.
That’s “McCAIN”, not McCian!
Boxlock you couldn’t get your knuckles outta the dirt to pick UP a paper.
Saw the Hannity interview with Palin.
We’ve just done 8 years with an arrogantly ignorant buffoon and his “nucular”
Now comes Sarah Palin, who it seems never mastered the word “nothing” and uses the more teen queen “nuthin’.
The fact remains Obama is either paying the men more than the women for equal work, or he is placing men in the positions of higher work importance and thus higher pay.
“Why this disparity? One reason may be the under-representation of women in Obama’s highest-compensated ranks. Among Obama’s five best-paid advisors, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.”
McCain doesn’t do that.
“One explanation could be that women compose a majority of McCain’s highest-paid aides. Among his top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women. The Republican presidential nominee relies on women — much more than men — for advice at the highest, and thus, best-paid levels.”
DimLibs are such hypocrites is what it boils down to.
McCain either pays his women staffers better than Obama our of fairness or has the confidence to place them in important positions in his campaign, that pay higher salaries.
McCain is more female gender friendly and/or has more confidence in them than Obama.
I don’t think so Box. Maybe Obama isn’t into quotas or affirmative action the way you cons are :)
….maybe he hires people based qualifications and performance and not gender. If McCain hires women just because they’re women, then he’s sexist.
BlueJay, you imbecile, what are you talking about.
Palin speaks wonderfully!
Michelle Obama on the other hand half the time sounds like she is throwing some lower southside Chicago Ebonics in to her speech. She sounds ‘low class’, probably for a good reason would you say.
“I don’t think so Box. Maybe Obama isn’t into quotas or affirmative action the way you cons are :) ”
Uh Mary, I can only hope you put that :) at the end of your sentence as a signal what you said was ‘tongue in cheek’ and opposite of fact.
It’s the DimLibs always clamoring for just court decided illegal affirmative action and quotas. :roll:
“Palin speaks wonderfully!”
Like nails on a chalkboard wonderfully?
I note that when she was not with a “friendly” she used the condescending tactic of naming her interviewer over and over.
“What part Charlie?”
“Charlie this”?
“Charlie that”?
She did NOT do this with Sean Hannity.
This is political discourse at the simplest level and she hasn’t the skills to get past her own limitations. Yeah it works for the faithful. But her voice and mannerisms are such that on meeting a person such as her, I would instantly conclude, I don’t like you.
test,
:roll: :roll:
Hum, not working anymore?
“But her voice and mannerisms are such that on meeting a person such as her, I would instantly conclude, I don’t like you.
Ha, and so would she about you BlueJay, so would anybody.
You’ll have plenty of time to ‘warm up’ to her voice and mannerisms over her four years as V.P.
Boxlock posted September 19, 2008 at 9:15 pm
“McCain is more female gender friendly and/or has more confidence in them than Obama.”
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You mean like the strippers he dated, including the one whose screen door he fell through, because he was so drunk?
His 1st beauty-queen wife, who he dumped after she was injured in a car accident, for his current Cindy?
His beauty-queen VP choice, who believes she has foreign policy experience because you can see an uninhabited Russian island from an Alaskan island?
I wonder what McCain’s female Senate aides look like. . .
“Uh Mary, I can only hope you put that :) at the end of your sentence as a signal what you said was ‘tongue in cheek’ and opposite of fact.
It’s the DimLibs always clamoring for just court decided illegal affirmative action and quotas. :roll:”
WOW…the sarcasim actually came through!
If you are so against affirmative action, then why are you touting the fact that McCain is obviously playing the gender card? Do you think he would have picked Plain if she was a man with the same views and lack of experience?
‘The Power and The Story’
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,992801-8,00.html
GIBBS/DICKERSON (12/13/99): And then there are the stories he tells — to which, if there’s a pattern, it’s to exalt other people and deflate himself.
A presidential candidate is not supposed to tell you about the rules he broke or the strippers he dated, or the time he arrived so drunk that he fell through the screen door of the young lady he was wooing.
The candor tells you more than the content, and reporters sometimes just decide to take McCain off the record because they don’t want to see him flame out and burn up a great story.”
BlueJay
Posted September 19, 2008 at 9:36 pm | Permalink
“What part Charlie?”
“Charlie this”?
“Charlie that”?
She did NOT do this with Sean Hannity.
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And if she had what kind of outrage would there be then from you libertards. His name is Sean, not Charlie afterall. LOL
Boxlock posted September 19, 2008 at 9:15 pm
“McCain is more female gender friendly and/or has more confidence in them than Obama.”
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Boxlock, you really should watch the video,
‘Obama: Lilly Ledbetter Ad on Equal Pay and McCain’s lame response‘
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/19/18730/3248/31/604085
“The narrative is
…
John McCain opposed a law to give women equal pay for equal work. And he dismissed the wage gap, saying women just need education and training.”
“Do you think he would have picked Plain if she was a man with the same views and lack of experience?”
Of course not.
But hypocrisy has never been a problem for the cons.
It’s laughable really. If it were not so manipulative and cynical.
Senator Hillary Clinton was the most recent leader in a long line of women achievers.
THEN, for purely political reasons, John McCain sets lil Sarah the throwback to June Cleaver at the HEAD of the road so many other women made.
And the cons are all about self sufficiency and personal responsibility? Bunk. Sarah Palin will drive on a road OTHER women made.
And tear up that road behind her.
So… did anyone else watch channel 10 just now? I forget which news program it is.
Started off with the death of a lady right in front of the Police Station even caught on camera.
The lady was being chased by a man, vehicle chase, who was going to kill her and had a gun.
She kept frantically asking the 911 operator how to get to the police station for several minutes.
During this time the 911 operator never did give her the address and the lady still made it to the parking lot.
She frantically told the operator she was now in the Police Parking lot and needed help.
The operator never gives her clear instructions at all.
Meanwhile, now we can see this on camera, you see the lady run in front of the police station and get shot 3 times with the gunman finally shooting himself before an Officer gets out the front door.
So all you anti-gun sheep out there, just keep this in mind as you walk around aimlessly thinking that you are safe from someone who wants to kill you or hurt your family.
Mr_Kia seems to have a severe reading comprehension problem.
BlueJay posted September 19, 2008 at 9:36 pm |
“I note that when she was not with a “friendly” she used the condescending tactic of naming her interviewer over and over.”
Nobody wants to kill me or hurt MY family there Nathan.
Well, not with guns anyway. They have other ways.
Why is YOUR family so afraid? Have you done something that makes others loathe you so?
Kia was attempting humor cosmos.
Cons really shouldn’t try that. It’s not their forte.
BlueJay,
Perhaps. How do you know?
You can walk around thinking that no one wants to hurt you or your family…right up until someone does.
Then what?
“You can walk around thinking that no one wants to hurt you or your family…right up until someone does.”
Oh I don’t walk around thinking that at all.
I avoid Republicans like the plague. Religious crazies also don’t get a second chance at a first impression with me and mine.
“Then what?”
If I think someone wants to hurt me you mean?
Well, in the case of one poster here who threatened to kill me, I took an opportunity to get a good look at him when he didn’t know I was around.
I’ll know if he shows up at my door.
Nathaniel,
I’m sorry that you worry all the time about someone wanting to kill you, or hurt your family.
That’s a terrible way to waste your life.
Cosmos,
I am sorry that you worry all the time about Global Warming and the impending doom that will follow it.
That’s a terrible way to waste your life.
Cosmos, and many other people including me are concerned about an issue that affects the population of the entire planet both now and in the future Nathan.
YOU are worried to the point of being armed at all times about?
YOU and your family.
I ask again, why is it you are so afraid?
BlueJay,
I am not afraid. Why would I be when I am prepared to defend myself, my family, and anyone else from harm?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erik-ose/sarah-palins-inbox-reveal_b_127771.html
Oh that IS worth looking at.
I’ll give lil’ Sarah credit. Preemptive measures to thwart justice?
That’s a new one.
Yes well you’ve also demonstrated that you are not past using deadly force as a form of personal amusement Nathan.
But let’s not go there.
“I am not afraid. ”
Well of course you are. Why else carry a gun every where?
Nathaniel posted September 19, 2008 at 10:13 pm
“Cosmos,
I am sorry that you worry all the time about Global Warming and the impending doom that will follow it.”
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Actually, I don’t “worry” much about AGW, because it will take a “Global” response to stop.
But I do believe that it’s worth my time to, for example, point out that Nathaniel is very gullible and unscientific, because he believes LIES from people like Dennis Avery and Steven Milloy.
Nathaniel posted September 19, 2008 at 10:23 pm
“I am not afraid. Why would I be when I am prepared to defend myself, my family, and anyone else from harm?”
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You’re going to do all of that, with your CC pistol? LOL!
Jon Stewart showed pieces of the Palin Hannity interview.
Underneath the video ran a cut line: Hannitized for her protection . . .
Hey cosmos?
Pick a progressive poster you trust and get yourself a throwaway email.
I know a lot of folks who would like to better know and meet you. We are working on a get together and while you are invited….
Nathan is not.
I’m given to understand you already know one poster here. But I will not name that person in case I am wrong. IF my info is correct, that poster can get you in touch.
“Hannitized for her protection .”
I MUST catch that one in rerun.
Hmmmm since women outnumber MEN in the population, it looks like McCain is doing just the reverse of what Boxlicker claims Obama is doing…. Check those numbers again… McCain has WOMEN in higher work rankings than he does MEN….
Take a GOOD LOOK at your figures, Boxlicker…. Your argument is totally worthless!!
File this in the “Oh, Sh !t” File–
Source: ABC News
An internal government document obtained by ABC News appears to contradict Sarah Palin’s most recent explanation for why she fired her public safety chief, the move which prompted the now-contested state probe into “Troopergate.”
“The last straw,” her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program. The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape.
The McCain-Palin campaign echoed the charge in a press release it distributed Monday, concurrent with Palin’s legal filing. “Mr. Monegan persisted in planning to make the unauthorized lobbying trip to D.C.,” the release stated.
But the governor’s staff authorized the trip, according to an internal travel document from the Department of Public Safety, released Friday in response to an open records request.
The document, a state travel authorization form, shows that Palin’s chief of staff, Mike Nizich, approved Monegan’s trip to Washington D.C. “to attend meeting with Senator Murkowski.” The date next to Nizich’s signature reads June 18.
Cosmos,
Send me your throw-away email address to mine:
WilhelmWundt54@gmail.com
Take care, dude.
Steven Davis
Ah, another progressive circle jerk and they want cosmos for the pivot man. :D
Nathaniel
Posted September 19, 2008 at 10:23 pm | Permalink
BlueJay,
I am not afraid. Why would I be when I am prepared to defend myself, my family, and anyone else from harm?
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Da, Da, Da Duh, Da … Da, Da, Da, Da Dah, Da, Da, Dah…
Iron Man. Give me a break you clown…
Man, you are so funny. Please keep it up…
Steven,
What is so funny about being prepared to defend yourself?
Steven,
I think this describes you well, I always read this when I am mocked by someone like you:
“The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn’t tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports in camouflage fatigues holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, “Baa.”
Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.”
http://www.killology.com/sheep_dog.htm
That “story” is an insult on American intelligence… Hmmmm…. Sounds a little bit like G. Gordon Liddy, or Mark Levin, or Michael Savage(or whatever his REAL name is this year)
Good night; good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
So mote it be!!
“Nathaniel” shares –
“…sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. “
Reminds me of those old Warner Brothers sheepdog vs. the coyote cartoon.”
“G’nite, Ralph.”
“G’nite, Sam”
Interesting you identify with a dog, boy. You certainly are your father’s son. Your self-image is that of a cartoon character.
On a more practical, less psychological, level: what the sheepdog does is its job. There’s not a lot of sheepdogs that protect sheep on an ad hoc, self-ordained, freelance basis.
But hell, boy. There are people who actually make careers being real protectors of us “sheep.” They’re called cops. They have guns and training and adult supervision an’ everything.
Certainly a strapping ex-Marine such as you, boy, would be a welcome recruit to legitimate law enforcement organizations. Unless there’s something about you they, as active duty Marines, don’t want among their ranks.
Yes well.
In the case of the Price family, their hobby, and I emphasize HOBBY is raising sheep dogs.
They do not depend on this for their livelihood. They do it for fun.
And so I have seen the Price sheepdog in a maybe 15 foot wide ring.
The dog intimidates the sheep. In this case it was goats. The goats did not look happy to be protected by a predator who if not fed from the master ordering them would happily devour the goats.
In this, I finally truly understood the cons.
They pretend at defending the innocent and defenseless.
But let those innocent and defenseless get out of line? And they have snarling jaws to police them.
You and I, we see evil differently Nathan.
YOU see evil as offense to a religion you cannot convince me is valid.
I see evil as those who would hurt me telling me how I should live and what is best for me.
On pain of attack.
I do not know how it is we work things out.
I do not care to try anymore than your sheepdog does at diplomacy.
MonkeyHawk,
Obviously you didn’t read the whole thing. One doesn’t need to be an active Police Officer nor Soldier to be a sheepdog.
The writing also goes on to talk about Police being prepared even while not on duty as well.
I also have guns and training. I have more training with guns than the average police officer and I train more in one year than the average police officer does as well.
You only play your part as the sheep as you continue to mock me for being a sheepdog.
Just practice saying BAA.
I don’t want such as you defending me Nathan.
I want to be defended FROM you. I want the “sheep” policing the “sheepdogs” AND their masters.
“Just practice saying BAA”
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There is no Baah in me and mine Nathan.
Maybe that is why you and yours are so afraid and pretend at defense and heroism.
The “sheep” are turning on the “sheepdogs”.
BlueJay,
For someone who is constantly saying I am afraid and paranoid, have you stopped to look at the crap you are typing lately?
Nathaniel posted September 19, 2008 at 9:51 pm
“So all you anti-gun sheep out there, just keep this in mind as you walk around aimlessly thinking that you are safe from someone who wants to kill you or hurt your family.”
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Nathaniel posted September 19, 2008 at 11:29 pm
“What is so funny about being prepared to defend yourself?”
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What’s “funny” is the way Nathaniel flip-flops from being “safe” to “being prepared to defend yourself”.
Perhaps Nathaniel realizes that his little CC pistol will not keep him (and others nearby) “safe” from a nut-case sniper?
(Didn’t Nathaniel boast on WE Blog how he could easily kill someone from a very long distance?)
Or a nut-case who walks up behind him, and others, on a sidewalk?
Or multiple armed robbers (perhaps a family?) scattered in a store, after Nathaniel kills only one of them?
My concern is focused Nathan.
I do not arm myself as you do for fear from attack from every direction.
I focus my efforts on those who would hurt me. Namely folks like you who live off the backs of folks like me who have not.
We live in the same geographical area Nathan. But we do not live in the same nation. You have yours, and I have mine.
You will try to destroy me and I will give you back the same. I sleep well in my choice.
“Nathaniel” –
There’s a great Swedish movie, “My Life as a Dog,” which could be your autobiography. But you’d have to read the subtitles and your lips would get tired. So I doubt if you’ll ever bother to see it.
Your father refers to you, boy, with the pet name he uses with his dogs. (Or maybe it’s a Tarzan thing, I dunno.)*
* How were you potty-trained? Did he push your nose into your dirty diapers?
I suppose every family has its share of dysfunction, but you could be the poster boy. You come across as an ever-ticking time bomb. It seems like only a matter of time ’til you detonates.
Nathaniel posted June 29, 2008 at 2:23 am
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/06/open-thread-628-2/#comment-375611
“BlueJay,
I am quite capable of hitting a person at 600 yards with open sights.
Give me a scope and 7.62 rifle and we are talking 1000 yards.
If I can ever afford a Barrett .50 caliber rilfe I could hit someone at much, much, much further distances.
I am not worried at all.”
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Nathaniel,
When you posted “hitting a person” and “hit someone”, did you mean that you could kill them?
Or did you just mean that you shoot the 6-gun out of their hand, like in old Clint Eastwood movies?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/open-thread-919-2/#comment-428733
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focus my efforts on those who would hurt me. Namely folks like you who live off the backs of folks like me who have not. Blue Jay
Ever considered getting out there and getting yours so you will be a have,or is it easier to complain about those went out and got theirs?
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