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Gibson is known for his softball interviews. Despite being overly easy with Palin she was easily thrown for a loop in her apparent lack of knowledge of the Bush doctrine. As it turns out she supports Bush’s foreign policy of pre-emptive war.
GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?
PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?
GIBSON: The Bush — well, what do you — what do you interpret it to be?
PALIN: His world view?
GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war.
PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership, and that’s the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.
GIBSON: The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?
PALIN: Charlie, if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend.
Palin and McCain, more of the same.
BJ,
As Monkey so rightly pointed out all that is asked of me is one day at a time,so the challange is can you go 24 hrs without posting on this blog. If you do I will publicly state that I severlky underestimated you. Just a simple yes or no I decline is all that is required,
Here’s another interesting column, in the same vein as the one I posted yesterday. The author is a journalist with the New York Times…
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September 11, 2008, 10:29 pm
No Laughing Matter
Tags: liberals, media, sarah palin
“You can stand on my wagon, if you want.”
I tend, when I’m not in big crowds, to forget that I’m short. In Republican crowds, I find, I feel particularly small.
And dark. And unsmiling. And uncoiffed, unmade-up and inappropriately dressed.
For the McCain/Palin rally in Fairfax, Va., on Wednesday, the organizers had asked people to wear red. I – unthinkingly – had dressed in blue, which was somewhat isolating.
I was isolated, too, because, unable to find the press area in the crowd of about 15,000, I was out with the “real” people. Which meant that I could hear everything from the podium and from the onlookers around me, but could see nothing, not, at least, until the mom beside me stopped struggling to balance atop her Little Tikes wagon with two toddlers in her arms and another screaming at her feet, and offered me a go at the view.
(“It’s Sarah. Sarah’s going to be the vice president,” she had told the little girls, clad in their matching polka dot dresses. “Sarah Palin.”)
She was a nice woman. She told me history was in the making. She told me where to get lunch. She handed me back my reporter’s notebook when one of her almost-two-year-old twins, fixing me with a dark look of mistrust, took it away. “Liberal media, eh?” her solemn eyes glared. “Well, watch what you say about my mommy and Our Sarah.”
Do not think for a moment that I was being paranoid.
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Here’s the link if you want to read the entire column.
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/no-laughing-matter/index.html
I could go back further in time, but today I’m thinking about Bear-Stearns, Fannie-Mae, Freddie-Mac, and now Lehman Brothers….
Does anyone else notice America’s economic infrastructure is collapsing like a house of cards?
The price of oil and gasoline has nothing to do with supply and just about everything to do with the clear fact that the Dumbua Administration has reduced the value of a dollar.
If, on January 20, 1981 — the day Ronald Reagan took office — I’d given you a dime for every dollar you had, and had guaranteed you’d have the same buying power of your dime in 2008, you’d've been ahead.
In 1964, Ford introduced the Mustang, a sporty little car with a certain panache, it cost $3,000. Today, a Mustang, still sporty and not a bad car, is $30,000.
Do the math.
That 64-and-a-half Mustang ran on 34.9-cent gasoline. Today if you see gasoline for $3.49.9-a-gallon, you cut across three lanes of traffic for the opportunity to get the “low” price.
Do the math, people.
Email from the DNC
> If you’re a minority and you’re selected for
> a job over more qualified
> candidates you’re a ‘token hire.’
>
> If you’re a conservative and you’re selected
> for a job over more qualified
> candidates you’re a ‘game
> changer.’
>
> Black teen pregnancies? A ‘crisis’ in black
> America.
> White teen pregnancies? A ‘blessed event.’
>
> If you grow up in Hawaii you’re ‘exotic.’
>
> Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you’re the
> quintessential
> ‘American story.’
>
> Similarly, if you name your kid Barack you’re
> ‘unpatriotic.’
> Name your kid Track, you’re ‘colorful.’
>
> If you’re a Democrat and you make a VP pick
> without fully vetting the
> individual you’re ‘reckless.’ A
> Republican who doesn’t fully vet is a
> ‘maverick.’
>
> If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing
> your
> organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget
> from $70,000
> to $400,000, then become the first black President of
> the Harvard
> Law Review, create a voter registration drive that
> registers 150,000
> new African Amerian voters, spend 12 years as a
> Constitutional Law
> professor, then spend nearly 8 more years as a State
> Senator
> representing a district with over 750,000 people,
> becoming chairman
> of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services
> committee, then
> spend nearly 4 years in the United States Senate
> representing a
> state of nearly 13 million people, sponsoring 131
> bills and serving
> on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works
> and Veteran’s
> Affairs committees, you are woefully inexperienced.
>
> If you spend 4 years on the city council and 6 years
> as the mayor
> of a town with less than 7,000 people, then spend 20
> months as
> the governor of a state with 650,000 people,
> you’ve got the most
> executive experience of anyone on either ticket, are
> the
> Commander in Chief of the Alaska military and are
> well qualified
> to lead the nation should you be called upon to do so
> because
> your state is the closest state to Russia.
>
> If you are a Democratic male candidate who is popular
> with
> millions of people you are an ‘arrogant
> celebrity’. If you are a
> popular republican female candidate you are
> ‘energizing the base’.
>
> If you are a younger male candidate who thinks for
> himself
> and makes his own decisions you are
> ‘presumptuous’. If you
> are an older male candidate who makes last minute
> decisions
> you refuse to explain, you are a ’shoot from the
> hip’ maverick.
>
> If you are a candidate with a Harvard law degree you
> are
> ‘an elitist ‘out of touch’ with the real
> America. If you are a
> legacy (dad and granddad were admirals) graduate of
> Annapolis,
> with multiple disciplinary infractions you are a
> hero.
>
> If you manage a multi-million dollar nationwide
> campaign, you
> are an ‘empty suit’.If you are a part time
> mayor of a town of
> 7000 people, you are an ‘experienced
> executive’.
>
> If you go to a south side Chicago church, your
> beliefs are ‘extremist’.
> If you believe in creationism and don’t believe
> global warming is man
> made, you are ’strongly principled’.
>
> If you cheated on your first wife with a rich
> heiress, and left your
> disfigured wife and married the heiress the next
> month, you’re a
> Christian.
>
> If you have been married to the same woman for 19
> years with whom
> you are raising 2 beautiful daughters you’re
> ‘risky’.
>
> If you’re a black single mother of 4 who waits
> for 22 hours after her
> water breaks to seek medical attention, you’re an
> irresponsible parent,
> endangering the life of your unborn child.
>
> But if you’re a white married mother who waits 22
> hours, you’re spunky.
>
> If you’re a 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton, the
> right-wing press calls you
> ‘First dog.’
> If you’re a 17-year old pregnant unwed daughter
> of a Republican, the
> right-wing press calls you ‘beautiful’ and
> ‘courageous.’
>
> If you kill an endangered species, you’re an
> excellent hunter.
> If you have an abortion you’re not a christian,
> you’re a murderer
> ( forget about if it happen while being date raped)
>
> If you teach abstinence only in sex education, you
> get teen parents.
> If you teach responsible age appropriate sex
> education, including the
> proper use of birth control, you are eroding the
> fiber of society.
>
>
Palin slipped up and said America is a theocracy. She referenced the “inalienable” rights mentioned in the Constitution (video 2):
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Palin_tells_ABC_War_with_Russia_0911.html
Now I know she’s as ignorant of American history as foreign policy but Jefferson originally had the word “sacred” rights in the Constitution. Ben Franklin scratched it out and wrote in “inalienable”. His argument was that sacred implied the rights were from God and corrected Jefferson saying the rights were from the governed. Palin disagrees with the Founders but what do you expect from someone who prays for the destruction of America?
“Maggotpunk” –
Of course the obvious observation is that the CONs claim to “love America,” but they hate more than 50% of us.
Go figure…
Sounds like she’s PNAC driven. Giving her God’s rights to the world- except when she says different.
World domination.
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I can’t keep up anymore with the threads like I used to since I’ve been promoted at work. But I’ll try to get on in the mornings- by evening, there isn’t any way to catch up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHUS4wx7jFs
take this you d@mn liberals
We tend to fear what we don’t understand, and we hate what we fear. That’s being human.
One wise person said..”communication can only begin once you know and understand the other person’s point of view” Too many of us jump to conclusions, assume, judge, and condemn without making the effort to really understand where the other person is coming from and why.
That’s some scary sh*t, Annie.
MH,
This one may be next,
https://self-evident.org/?p=217
How big is WaMu?
The largest bank failure in U.S. history was Continental Illinois National Bank and Trust Company. When it failed in May 1984, it had $41 billion in assets and $30 billion in total deposits.
According to the FDIC press release, when IndyMac failed in July it had $32 billion in assets and $19 billion in deposits, making it the second-largest failure in history.
Washington Mutual has $310 billion in assets and $182 billion in deposits. (Their market cap is now below $4 billion.) So think of WaMu as 10 IndyMacs.
The FDIC now estimates the IndyMac failure will cost their insurance fund $9 billion. The total size of the fund is now $45 billion, its lowest since 1995. When the fund runs out… Well, I am not sure what happens, exactly. Presumably FDIC taps the Treasury, meaning the taxpayer, meaning you. (Actually, Treasury borrows the money from China and Russia and the petro-states. It all depends on how you look at it.) Anyway, I am not sure what the mechanism for replenishing the fund would be… I’ll get back to you.
“That’s some scary sh*t, Annie.”
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Brought to us in the name of God.
Wow, Annie, If that isn’t hypocrisy, I don’t know what is. I couldn’t finish the video, it was too disgusting. And to think there are three more of them. I’m sure there are people out there right now, wringing their collective hands, and whispering, “He’s so right.” That is scary.
Dear Repukes,
I guess now we know why you’ve been hiding Sarah Palin in an undisclosed location. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t let her anywhere near a live microphone unless it’s right next to a teleprompter.
Given what even Charlie Gibson’s softball interview was able to reveal, the prospect of Sarah Palin anywhere near the nuclear footbal is terrifying enough that the Obama campaign is justified in breaking out LBJ’s “Daisy” ad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_(television_commercial)
I thought that Palin did well in her ABC interview. She gave a pretty good account of herself.
Of course, we know that the nutballs here will desperately pick at every word.
It matters not though, what the nutballs think, it is what the skooshy middle thinks. Palin is showing her competence. And the constant sexist attacks from the left are continuing to backfire.
The problem is that there are too many ignorant people in the country that think just like her…actually they can’t think for themselves and that’s the real problem.
I read this morning it was doubtful last night’s interview changed anyone’s opinion. I believe that’s probably true. Also, from the WSJ:
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“Behind the scenes, aides are prepping Gov. Palin for her next big tests: questions from the press, and, early next month, the vice-presidential debate. When she isn’t on the stump, Gov. Palin has been cramming. She carries briefing books with tabs on “foreign relations,” “budget” and “energy,” and index cards with talking points to study between appearances. Advisers counsel her on whether her hair should be pulled up or left down at her shoulders.
Her entourage includes many advisers who have worked for President George W. Bush, including Tucker Eskew, Tracey Schmitt and Nicolle Wallace. Steve Schmidt, the McCain campaign’s senior adviser, traveled with her to Alaska Wednesday, where her son is preparing to deploy to Iraq. Her foreign-policy adviser, Stephen Biegun, has worked for President Bush and former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist. Her domestic-policy adviser, Joe Donoghue, is a longtime aide to Sen. McCain.
Sen. McCain hasn’t any plans to hold big public rallies without her. In fact, the campaign wants to keep the pair together as much as possible, fearing a solo-stump appearance by Sen. McCain would draw far fewer attendees. “The question is: How often will they be apart?” a senior adviser said.”
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I think she needs new or more complete index cards! What a bunch of memorizing she did and it was so obvious! The woman has NO ideas or thoughts of her own.
MP,
I watched the video of the Palin interview by Charlie Gibson, too. On the Bush Doctrine, it was clear she had no idea what it was. (Can’t say I did either, but I’m not running for VP of the country.) After asking the same question twice, I had to chuckle when Charlie said, “too many words,” and then insisted on a yes or no answer. She continued the rhetoric as a non-answer, but it was clear by then that she supported pre-emtpive war.
I’ll say one thing, she’s good at memorization. She pulled out the name of Iran’s Ahmadinejad easily, so was obviously coached well on that. But she never did answer one of the questions, side-stepping it completely.
GIBSON: But this is not just reforming a government. This is also running a government on the huge international stage in a very dangerous world. When I asked John McCain about your national security credentials, he cited the fact that you have commanded the Alaskan National Guard and that Alaska is close to Russia. Are those sufficient credentials?
PALIN: But it is about reform of government and it’s about putting government back on the side of the people, and that has much to do with foreign policy and national security issues Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that’s with the energy independence that I’ve been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas development in our state to produce more for the United States.
And this was priceless a la McCain:
GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, “Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.” Are we fighting a holy war?
PALIN: You know, I don’t know if that was my exact quote.
GIBSON: Exact words.
PALIN: But the reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln’s words when he said — first, he suggested never presume to know what God’s will is, and I would never presume to know God’s will or to speak God’s words.
It’s too bad Sarah doesn’t practice what she preaches.
“The woman has NO ideas or thoughts of her own.”
Is that a sure sigh of not being qualified or experienced for the job in question?
Chuckle… Libs scare themselves watching a YouTube video by a fringe wacko.
You want scary? Just hang here and read some of the lefty nutball comments.
I had to laugh this morning when I saw McCain’s campaign ad that states he reformed Washington and she reformed Alaska!
Just HOW has he reformed Washington? And if so, then why are we in such terrible shape? I guess McCain/Palin believe by just saying something, Americans will believe it,…even as we lose our jobs and what little money we have left must go for gas and food.
That 64-and-a-half Mustang ran on 34.9-cent gasoline.
Cut that price in half and you’re a lot closer. Even in 1969 the price was around 20 to 25 cents a gallon. We used to pull into the local gas station and put 50 cents worth of gas in my friends Opel and “drag” main street on it all day.
Sen. McCain hasn’t any plans to hold big public rallies without her. In fact, the campaign wants to keep the pair together as much as possible, fearing a solo-stump appearance by Sen. McCain would draw far fewer attendees. “The question is: How often will they be apart?” a senior adviser said.”
I read the same thing, Linda. It made me wonder if it was only because of the smaller crowds for McCain without her or the fear that she would open mouth and insert foot with no one there to stop her.
“Is that a sure sigh of not being qualified or experienced for the job in question?”
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It’s a sure sign McCain is confident he can do it alone if she can just be used long enough to get him elected. Did her combative style indicate someone who would take being pushed to the background well or quietly?
So Outlander…how are you better off after 8 years of failed policies…you REALLY want more of the same?
I guess some are just gluttons for punishment.
Well, it’s Friday and Sedgwick County is under a flash flood watch. The Eagle says that the set up is similar to 1998 Halloween flood. I hope everyone is in a high, dry place.
I loved Sarah’s body language when Gibson asked about the Bush Doctrine.
GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?
(Sarah, completely taken off guard,freezes, speechless, then leans back in her chair. Was she hoping she could disappear into it?)PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?
I bet she raised hell off-stage about not being prepped for that one.
outlander,
No surprise that you “thought Palin did well in her ABC” interview. And if, by “showing her competence” you mean “is ignorant that the “Bush Doctrine” means that “pre-emptive attacks by the United States is justified,” and “subsequently tries to dissemble her ignorance by turning the question back on Charlie Gibson so he’ll help her out,” then I’ll agree: Sarah Palin “showed her competence.”
Your universe, outlander, as we’ve seen repeatedly, has lots to do with bowing down to power and little to do with, well, reality or facts. If you thought she did well, outlander, that isn’t exactly the sort of praise I imagine Sarah Palin was hoping for.
Oh, and outlander? Don’t try to play the sexist card. Your smugness in doing so reveals that even you don’t believe your accusations toward me. And what, outlander, is MORE sexist than the way you Wingnuts have lowered the bar for Sarah Palin?
What did you expect her to say CF?
A responsible leader would never take a pre-emptive strike off the table. Or any option for the defense of this country. It is the president’s primary responsibility.
If Obama would answer differently, another reason not to vote the for the country’s most liberal senator.
Looks like Russia thinks they’re allowed to invoke the ‘Bush Doctrine’ themselves:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080912/ts_nm/russia_medvedev_dc_2
Palin flip flopping like a gar on the bank, first she’s a Gw denier, then she’s not. First she thinks it’s God’s war, then it isn’t. Getting harder to stay up with than GWB.
So Outlander…answer my question…are you better off for the last 8 years and do you want more of the same?
Uh oh.
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Battle for Congress Suddenly Looks Competitive
Democrats’ double-digit lead on the “generic ballot” slips to 3 points
PRINCETON, NJ — A potential shift in fortunes for the Republicans in Congress is seen in the latest USA Today/Gallup survey, with the Democrats now leading the Republicans by just 3 percentage points, 48% to 45%, in voters’ “generic ballot” preferences for Congress. This is down from consistent double-digit Democratic leads seen on this measure over the past year.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110263/Battle-Congress-Suddenly-Looks-Competitive.aspx
outlander,
Don’t play games with my words. The immediate issue is not Sarah Palin’s bumbling advocacy of pre-emption (though that is an issue): it is that she didn’t even KNOW THAT THE BUSH DOCTRINE = PRE-EMPTION. Do we really want someone in the Oval Office who is that ignorant of the last eight years of foreign policy?
And outlander, one can have pre-emption as a policy option without advancing it as a stated doctrine. Seems to me that only a feckless and irresponsible leader would box him or herself by stating it as doctrine–which is yet another reasons not to vote for someone as incautious as Sarah Palin.
Yeah, CF2K, you notice how she got that little crafty look on her face after Gibson asked the question? I don’t think any of it will matter much though.
“If Obama would answer differently, another reason not to vote the for the country’s most liberal senator.”
In fact he has stated he would hesitate to take a military response if our national security was threatened…Iraq wasn’t a threat to us. Obama is right that we should have stayed in Afganistan and finished the job there. Unfortunately, Al Qaeda and Bin Laden are alive and well in Afganistan and Pakistan. They’re the real threat to us…something the Bush administration forgot about after we invaded Iraq.
What a waste of money and lives this war has been…and for what?
I mean “wouldn’t hesitate”…not “would”!!!!
OMG, Charlie Gibson, I’m suprised he didn’t ask for the witches broom. What a condecending a-hole – is the Iraq war a holy war ? – give me a freakin break
Well, well, well…
It’s not surprising to read the negative words and see the pessimistic attitudes in the usual Libs posting this morning.
The Liberal mindset is more than just politics, it’s their way of life. That is, to belittle, chastise and generally be a rogue of immaturity in a country of adults.
By the way, those attributes just described are what typifies a teenager’s conduct of rebellious disrespect.
Do yourself a favor, visit a chat room with a bunch of teenagers and visit one full of Liberals. You won’t be able to tell the difference.
For liberals, it’s all about “what affects me” and not what is good for the country. The “me” generation got its impetus from Liberals as “status seekers” looking for glowing approval from others and if they don’t get it, they become the vindictive victim, lashing out at anyone or anything contrary to their achievement of “me first.”
Narcissism, along with a desire to maintain a victim status are the defense mechanisms that the Libs often use to weasel their way through life. One feeds the other by avoiding anything with discipline or structure that may restrict their goal of “me-ness.”
Today’s Liberals are the result of coddling spinelessness. They want to stand for everything in an idealistic manner, but yet have no clue how to stand for something in a real and responsible manner. They think popularity is the equivalent of goodness. Obama is a clone of this behavior. Obama is popular, he is idealistic and he draws the “Liberal me me first’s” like flies on a rotting corpse.
To the Liberal, the offset nature of the book circuit and popular video are the guides in their life. The Libs try to put everything into metaphor and claim that “life imitates art” instead “art imitating life.”
The Liberal topsy turvy view of the world is the calcification of the human spirit. Like empty shells, their souls remain dormant on ethereal beach front properties. They slither out to occupy another shell or in this case, societal norms and try to inject their venomous ideology on naive victims.
This of course, describes the mindset of the Caucasians and those living in white settlements invoking floating rules inherited by popular theme rather than societal norms.
They have hope that the Islamic radical fundamentals will see the errors of their ways, by embracing the Liberal idea of secular orgy along with sexual and ideological permissiveness. When in reality, the Radical Islamist, just wants them dead or converted to Islam.
Liberalism is the purest form of bigotry, but not in the traditional fashion. It is bigoted because it has no tolerance of opinion outside of what the current and popular ideological fad is.
Liberals use as their foundation the desire to ‘feel good’ at any cost and will go to great measure to inflict great harm on those that don’t agree.
Liberals have not taken into mind, the ‘fall of the Roman Empire.” Hubris, greed and placing iconic symbols of pagan ideology above all else. Liberals are the bastard children of their own inbreeding.
I’ve not seen so much FEAR & PANIC from the libs –
I guess they just don’t understand
Oh, I see your point now CF. You weren’t concerned about Gov Pain’s understanding the concept of preemption or her position on it.
No, you were concerned about the critical fact that you might have a “gotcha” in that Palin didn’t know or remember that some called the concept of preemption, the “Bush Doctrine”.
Gotcha.
Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country
Spoken by a hard line liberal. Where are these liberals today?
I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is “needed” before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents “interests,” I shall reply that I was informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can.
Spoken by a true conservative. Where are these conservatives today?
Well Reg…do you plan to take advantage of social security and Medicare? If so, you have the “liberals” to thank.
Amazing that so many of you hate anything progressive and use the word “liberal” like it’s a cuss word, but think nothing of taking part in what the liberals have done for the average person this country.
I guess Outlander isn’t going to answer my question…he might have to be truthful and that hurts too much.
You 28%ers should be gratified to know palin still believes Iraq/saddam was behind 9/11, told her son’s unit that yesterday.
Mary_Caruso
Posted September 12, 2008 at 9:12 am | Permalink
Well Reg…do you plan to take advantage of social security and Medicare? If so, you have the “liberals” to thank.
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Of course I will take advantage of the programs, I was forced to pay into the programs. I had no choice of where I couldn’t pay into them.
I liked her comment about an ‘unprovoked’ invasion in Georgia.
“Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have.”
REMEMBER – During the three decades of Saddam Hussein’s totalitarian rule, between 3 and 4 million of Iraqs 24 million people fled the country, another estimated 1 million fell victim to state terror in the form of massacres, executions, torture, disappearances and imprisonment. 260 mass graves have been discovered (as of 2004) they contain an estimated 400,000 bodies. A few of Saddam’s victims are shown here – http://fdd.typepad.com/fdd/files/1.wmv
We watched them fill many of those graves after bush urged the revolt, then ordered the troops to stand by.
Don’t forget his mass graves – http://www.9neesan.com/massgraves/
Sounding like bush might yet get to redeem himself after a hurricane causing massive damage. Bet he won’t sit on his hands this time. The election is too important, and, we’re talking Texas.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
John F. Kennedy
Does anyone know if the Hutch Grandstand is covered? Supposed to go to the concert tonight, or will it get cancelled?
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Mary_Caruso
Posted September 12, 2008 at 8:47 am | Permalink
So Outlander…answer my question…are you better off for the last 8 years and do you want more of the same?
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I am surprised that you would ask such a question Mary. You always contended that we are in control of our own destiny.
But since you asked Mary, yes I am better off now than 8 years ago. I have some problems (who doesn’t) but it seems that they relate mostly to choices made.
But my destiny is not determined by government, but by personal choices and God’s providence. I am a little older, but I’m healthier, my parents are doing well, and God has continued to bless.
I wish the same for everyone.
“Success hinges on a passion for excellence.”
John F. Kennedy
For liberals, it’s all about “what affects me” and not what is good for the country.
Oh, please, Regular. It’s the conservatives on this blog that scream the most about MY MONEY. Taxes? Not from MY MONEY!
Project much?
The same thing happens in China and North Korea, only those people don’t get to escape, are we going to overthrow their governments too, Dad?
Again…how was Iraq a threat to our security and national interests?
Hell, China has the worst human rights record in the world and we reward them by giving them our jobs and letting them host the Olympics!
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Predestined
Posted September 12, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink
For liberals, it’s all about “what affects me” and not what is good for the country.
Oh, please, Regular. It’s the conservatives on this blog that scream the most about MY MONEY. Taxes? Not from MY MONEY!
Project much?
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You Liberal Progressives just don’t get it.
The more government programs you have, the less freedom you have, because you have less freedom to say what those programs will control and who they will control.
This is quite obvious from your assessment Predestined, they you simply do not understand the problems of “big” government.
Now, that’s funny!
“The newest ad showcasing their hard line includes unflattering footage of McCain at a hearing in the early ’80s, wearing giant glasses and an out-of-style suit, interspersed with shots of a disco ball, a clunky phone, an outdated computer and a Rubik’s Cube.
“1982, John McCain goes to Washington,” an announcer says over chirpy elevator music. “Things have changed in the last 26 years, but McCain hasn’t.
“He admits he still doesn’t know how to use a computer, can’t send an e-mail, still doesn’t understand the economy, and favors two hundred billion in new tax cuts for corporations, but almost nothing for the middle class,” it says. It shows video of McCain getting out of a golf cart with former President George H.W. Bush and closes with a photo of him standing with the current President Bush at the White House. “After one president who was out of touch, we just can’t afford more of the same.”
Well, it’s good to hear you can afford food, gas, untilities, and health care, Out. Many people, through no fault of their own, are not so lucky.
As for you Reg…how would your life be different if you didn’t have Medicare or Social Security?
“I look forward to a great future for America – a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose.”
JFK
Speaking of gas, might be a good time to fill up before Ike comes in.
I don’t know Caruso ? what are YOU willing to “sacrifice” for N Korea and China ?
“The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.”
JFK
“The obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people.”
Dr. Ron Paul
“The greatest threat facing America today is the disastrous fiscal policies of our own government, marked by shameless deficit spending and Federal Reserve currency devaluation. It is this one-two punch– Congress spending more than it can tax or borrow, and the Fed printing money to make up the difference– that threatens to impoverish us by further destroying the value of our dollars.”
Dr Ron Paul
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Mary_Caruso
Posted September 12, 2008 at 9:35 am | Permalink
Well, it’s good to hear you can afford food, gas, untilities, and health care, Out. Many people, through no fault of their own, are not so lucky.
As for you Reg…how would your life be different if you didn’t have Medicare or Social Security?
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I would have invested, as I have, in long range investment. Instead of paying taxes into Medicare and Social Security, I would have put those into a private savings and investment account. I assure you I would have had a much better return on my investment that the sums the government will pay me.
With social security there are caps on what the government will pay you. For instance, because I am retired military I cannot get the full benefit of social security. Why you ask? Because my military retirement exceeds the amount social security have normally paid me, so I will get some ’set amount’ determined by the government and it won’t be a full amount if I didn’t have military retired pay.
Even though I have paid into the system for the past 45 plus years, I won’t receive full benefits because of a bureaucratic restriction.
This would not happen with private investment retirement funds. The monies I invested are mine and I can withdraw in lump sum or by any amount I see fit. I have the freedom to control my assets in retirement.
With social security, not so much.
Medicare, I don’t know much about it yet. I just know it is a paper work nightmare from what my parents and other elderly relatives have to go through. It’s a football kicked back and forth between private insurance carriers, medicare and Hospitals on who is going to pay what in what amount.
Just what I need as I get older, more bureaucratic confusion.
“Again…how was Iraq a threat to our security and national interests?” — Mary Caruso
Iraq was a threat to Israeli interests, and it was stated at the time that those interests are the same as ours. This is because Adam is our grandpa
“Sounding like bush might yet get to redeem himself after a hurricane causing massive damage. Bet he won’t sit on his hands this time. The election is too important, and, we’re talking Texas.” — if this bastard is as bad as some predict, the govenment could do all that is possible, and still look bad. If that breaks the Democrat’s way, Sabes usted la vida, as the Mexicans say.
In italics of course.
I don’t know Caruso ? what are YOU willing to “sacrifice” for N Korea and China ?
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beber
Posted September 12, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink
“Again…how was Iraq a threat to our security and national interests?” — Mary Caruso
Iraq was a threat to Israeli interests, and it was stated at the time that those interests are the same as ours. This is because Adam is our grandpa
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Reality is something the progressive Liberals have a hard time dealing with.
Saddam Hussein was a corrupting, divisive influence of the entire Middle East. He bullied his neighbors, sent out assasination squads, invaded countries and generally kept the Middle East in chaos.
The oil does flow freely now in the middle east due largely in part to what occurred in the first Gulf War and in the second war in Iraq which ousted the “beast of Baghdad.”
Regardless whether or not the progressive Liberals think Arabs are a people just not worth saving, there are those that think they are humans and worth saving from destroying themselves and creating chaos in the region and impending doom to the world’s most domintating energy supply, oil.
Don’t think oil is important, let a dictator like Saddam Hussein shut off the spigot to the region and you’ll here the panty waists of the Liberal Progressives howl like jungle monkeys.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/61410aa4ff
Gina Gershon in skit about Palin. Too funny. You good, moral, family values Republicans will like the final fantasy shot of your VILF.
here the panty waists = hear the…
outlander,
“No, you were concerned about the critical fact that you might have a “gotcha” in that Palin didn’t know or remember that some called the concept of preemption, the “Bush Doctrine”.”
Yeah, I guess it’s just silly of me to want people interviewing to lead my country to know the most fundamental things about what my country has been doing these last eight years. And it’s just so…”sexist” of me to ridicule those aspiring to higher office when they don’t.
And I guess it’s also too much to ask that when a politician doesn’t know something, she say so, rather than trying to cynically–and clumsily–manipulate the interviewer into giving an answer.
The body language noted by Predestined gave away the game: she knew she was caught not knowing something she should have known, and tried to bluff her way out of it. If Sarah Palin were an honest person, she would have asked what Charlie Gibson meant. She didn’t, and she isn’t–an honest person, I mean.
I’ve had enough of stupid, bold-faced liars occupying the White House. You, evidently, outlander, have not.
Sarah wishes she had her body!
That was funny when gibson said he’d gotten lost in her blizzard of words.
Guess he could recognize a ’snow job’.
I didn’t know exactly what the Bush Doctrine meant either.
I’m sure anyone would be caught by surprise unless they are someone who laps up ideological phrases by the bucket full.
As in sports, the same applies to warfare. The best defense is an over powering offense.
Aside from that, the claim that Palin is a Bush follower was defeated by that question.
Quite apparently, she is not.
I didn’t watch the interview btw.
Venezuela to expel U.S. ambassador
CNN) — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Thursday he is recalling his own ambassador from Washington and expelling the U.S. ambassador from Venezuela.
President Hugo Chavez said he was making the moves “in solidarity with Bolivia and the people of Bolivia.”
“He has 72 hours, from this moment, the Yankee ambassador in Caracas, to leave Venezuela,” Chavez told a crowd of supporters.
The president said he was making the moves “in solidarity with Bolivia and the people of Bolivia.”
Bolivia’s Evo Morales accused the United States Thursday of fomenting a coup d’etat by rich eastern department landowners against him, the country’s first Indian president.
“We have seen reports about President Chavez’s remarks but have not received any official diplomatic communication,” said Gordon Duguid, a State Department spokesman. “Our embassy in Caracas is looking into these reports.”
Also Thursday, Chavez accused the United States of having backed a coup plot against him.
“When there’s a new government in the United States, we’ll send an ambassador,” he said. “A government that respects Latin America.”
Earlier Thursday, Chavez said he has uncovered a U.S.-backed plot to remove him from power.
“It’s the empire that’s behind this,” he told supporters in a nationally televised address. “They go around looking for a way to stop our revolution and, with it, to strike all the processes of change that are occurring in our Americas, in the Caribbean, in Central America.”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/09/11/venezuela.us/index.html
Why it is important:
Country Jun-08 May-08 YTD 2008 Jun-07 YTD 2007
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CANADA 1,883 1,840 1,888 1,905 1,881
SAUDI ARABIA 1,479 1,579 1,523 1,501 1,407
MEXICO 1,124 1,116 1,193 1,392 1,454
VENEZUELA 1,085 1,030 1,012 1,135 1,109
What are those numbers Sol?
American oil imports.
Regular, those numbers reflect the amount of oil being imported from the countries set out in thousands or millions of barrels per day (I forget which measure, I think thousands) as reported by the EIA. The first column reflects the oil imports (average) for the month of June, 2008; the second, the same for May, 2008; the third, the year-to-date; the fourth, the same data for June, 2007; and the final column, the year-to-date for the year 2007. The last two columns are for comparative purposes.
Sol, did I get it right?
Well look here. The source is Wiki but it is consistent with other sites on the issue. The “Bush Doctrine” includes aspects other than preemption. So Sarah Pain was perfectly correct when she asked for clarification. Gibson mistated the “Bush Doctrine.
Did you know that CF?
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Bush Doctrine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Bush Doctrine is a phrase used to describe various related foreign policy principles of United States president George W. Bush, created in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks. The phrase initially described the policy that the United States had the right to treat countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups as terrorists themselves, which was used to justify the invasion of Afghanistan.[1] Later it came to include additional elements, including the controversial policy of preventive war, which held that the United States should depose foreign regimes that represented a supposed threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate (used to justify the invasion of Iraq), a policy of supporting democracy around the world, especially in the Middle East, as a strategy for combating the spread of terrorism, and a willingness to pursue U.S. military interests in a unilateral way.[2][3][4] Some of these policies were codified in a National Security Council text entitled the National Security Strategy of the United States published on September 20, 2002.[5] This represented a dramatic shift from the United States’s Cold War policies of deterrence and containment, under the Truman Doctrine, and a departure from post-Cold War philosophies such as the Powell Doctrine and the Clinton Doctrine.
dadman,
Saddam was a tinpot dictator, just like many others who slaughter their own people, but you don’t see us invading them, do you. Or would you rather we did. Become the world police, so to speak. Because if you don’t, then Iraq was a big mistake, and the real terrorists, those hiding in Afghanistan and Pakistan, have been let off the hook by our side show, the Iraq war. Which way is it?
VT,
Rodger that. Should have added the link. Here it is.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
A life long conservative republican here. On Sarah Palin, I can almost overlook the fact that she didn’t know what the Bush Doctrine was….she should know what it is, Bush has spent these past 8 years reminding us. I can almost overlook the “deer in the headlights look” that came across her face when Gibson asked the question. What I can’t overlook was her pathetic attempt to B.S. her way out of the corner she found herself in. Supposedly, she’s the “real McCoy”, a “breath of fresh air”..something completely different, but she is not. She’s a nice lady, and the fact that she can field dress a moose is pretty cool. But alas, she is just another pandering blathering syncophant, another in a long list of such characters that the GOP and Dems have been inflicting upon the electoratefor the past several decades. Her world view is what McCain’s handlers tell her it is…and unfortunately, their approach to a coherent US foreign policy is unimaginative, outdated and dangerous (yeah, let’s go to war over Georgia! are we all up for that one?) How is it, that if we GOPers are so smart, that we came up with the most pathetic pair of bumblers as McCain and Palin. Put them up against Barak (I’m for change…your change in your pocket) Obama and Joe (oh damn, did I really say THAT?) Biden and we have an election for the ages, the DARK AGES. I cannot vote for Obama and I will not vote for McCain, so once again I’m left to see if there is any intelligence and integrity left amongst the other candidates.
outlander,
Nice try. Or, not really.
“PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?
GIBSON: The Bush — well, what do you — what do you interpret it to be?
PALIN: His world view?
GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war.
PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership, and that’s the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.
GIBSON: The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?
PALIN: Charlie, if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend.”
Sarah Palin didn’t ask for clarification; she basically asked WHAT the doctrine was. The fact that Charlie Gibson didn’t mention “unilateralism” by name doesn’t mean that Sarah Palin had THAT in mind rather than “pre-emption”; and the fact that Charlie Gibson didn’t mention it in no way constitutes a “misstatement” of the doctrine. And even if it did, outlander, that doesn’t erase the fact that Sarah Palin went on demonstrating her total ignorance of the doctrine.
I know you think you’ve hit on some sort of clever argument to spin it, outlander, but we all know what we saw: Sarah Palin demonstrably had no idea what the Bush Doctrine entailed such that her flailing around could be contrued as asking for “clarification.”
Oh, and yeah, I knew that the “Bush Doctrine” entailed pre-emption and unilateralism. I’d say that’s a sufficiently rich notion to say that I understand it.
JMWalker – I’m not asking you, I’m asking Caruso
> If you spend 3 years as a community organizer growing
> your
> organization from a staff of 1 to 13 and your budget
> from $70,000
> to $400,000
From the DNC?
A whopping budget of $400,000 and a staff of 13?
WTF?!?????
The local Dairy Queen has a bigger budget!!!!!
I have 7 Managers with budgets and staff bigger then this! It’s very sad if 1) the DNC thinks this is what makes Obama a qualified LEADER, and 2) the Democrats actually believe that crap!
(And wasn’t it 5 years as Community Organizer?)
22-Year-Old Auctions Off Virginity to Pay for College
Tough times eh?
YES, Obama was a Community Organizer for 5 YEARS!
(Not 3, the DNC is WRONG!)
http://www.ontheissues.org/Profile_Barack_Obama.htm
Previous Occupation: Community organizer, Chicago, 1983-88
The Bush Doctrine is a phrase used to describe various related foreign policy principles of United States president George W. Bush,
Sounds pretty vague to me.
GIBSON: The Bush — well, what do you — what do you interpret it to be?
PALIN: His world view?
If he wanted an answer to the quite broad “Bush Doctrine” why didn’t he ask a specific question?
If you claim to have known what the “Bush Doctrine” was prior to the question, you are a delusional ass. It covers a quite bit more than pre-emptive strikes.
But do continue to froth at the mouth over Palin. Every day she is in the news is a bad day for Obama.
CF
Something you might keep in mind about “The Bush Doctrine”. Calling it ” The Bush Doctrine” is largely a creation of the Left media and Blogosphere. Gotta have give a name to something if you’re gonna demonize it dontcha know.
Those of us who pretty much ignore the Left media and blogosphere arent necessarily up to speed with the latest vernacular.
The definition of “The Bush Doctrine” tends to vary with different Lefties depending on how much Kool-Aid they’ve been drinking.
You Liberal Progressives just don’t get it.
This is quite obvious from your assessment Predestined, they you simply do not understand the problems of “big” government.
Nope, just a Liberal. And still very proud of my sense of fair play.
I understand the problems of “big” government from the right and the left, as both have their hand in it.
Why aren’t you a Libertarian? You wouldn’t have to pay taxes on the roads you drive on, just a toll. A nickel for this mile, a dime for another. And without those taxes you rail so much against, there would be no fire depts., unless you paid into each individual one for safety. Same goes for police. And what about the military, which you were a part of? While it’s true that tax money goes toward what you call “welfare” and helping others, 1 cent of $1 (1%) goes toward cash assistance. Can you give me the percentage of your tax dollar that goes to military? For those $100 hammers, ya know.) To bailing out corporations? To the interest being paid for borrowing money from China and others?
And then there’s this:
because I am retired military I cannot get the full benefit of social security.
The same is true for all civil service employees, not just the military. You can thank Reagan for that, at least as for as CS goes. And isn’t he the hero of the Republican party?
if this bastard [Hurricane Ike) is as bad as some predict
I heard last night from someone in Florida, who watches hurricanes and tropical storms closely, and heard last night that Ike has weakened to a cat2, with a slight chance of increasing to a weak cat3 . Dry winds on the west are keeping it from intesifying. However the center storm of Ike is larger than others have been, so I guess we’ll see.
On Palin’s comment about looking at history to see that not all VPs had met with foreign leaders, a look at the current living VPs shows that she is wrong. ALL had had contact.
Charlie should have reminded her that we are now “Global”. It’s imperative that our leaders have interacted with leaders of other nations. Not so much in the 1700’s, 1800’s. Everything seemed to change with WWI.
Scott and Powerline has an interesting highlight regarding “Palins Prayer”.
A political science professor whom I greatly greatly respect writes to comment on “Charles Gibson’s unexacting performance.” He is familiar with the relevant text to which Governor Palin was alluding in her prayer and comments in particular on Gibson’s cluelessness regarding Palin’s prayer:
Unlike Palin and Lincoln, Gibson “doesn’t have a prayer.” I second the high marks you give her performance. We have in her a leader who doesn’t merely quote from time to time an old chestnut from a Lincoln speech, but who has clearly reflected on one of the most extraordinary and moderate dispositions to divine providence ever taught by a leader in wartime, and found it worthy of adoption and emulation in her own speeches. What’s more, she is able to explain gracefully, to a man posing as a human resources executive, what she was saying in her prayer. That Gibson understood her explanation is doubtful. Perhaps he needs a lesson in the meaning of the subjunctive mood (and I have no doubt Governor Palin could give him one). More likely, he suffers from God Derangement Syndrome, the mere mention of God shutting down brain synapses.
I’m afraid this is a condition that Governor Palin will elicit chronically from the mainstream media through election day.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/
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Predestined
Posted September 12, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink
You Liberal Progressives just don’t get it.
This is quite obvious from your assessment Predestined, they you simply do not understand the problems of “big” government.
Nope, just a Liberal. And still very proud of my sense of fair play.
I understand the problems of “big” government from the right and the left, as both have their hand in it.
Why aren’t you a Libertarian? You wouldn’t have to pay taxes on the roads you drive on, just a toll. A nickel for this mile, a dime for another. And without those taxes you rail so much against, there would be no fire depts., unless you paid into each individual one for safety. Same goes for police. And what about the military, which you were a part of? While it’s true that tax money goes toward what you call “welfare” and helping others, 1 cent of $1 (1%) goes toward cash assistance. Can you give me the percentage of your tax dollar that goes to military? For those $100 hammers, ya know.) To bailing out corporations? To the interest being paid for borrowing money from China and others?
And then there’s this:
because I am retired military I cannot get the full benefit of social security.
The same is true for all civil service employees, not just the military. You can thank Reagan for that, at least as for as CS goes. And isn’t he the hero of the Republican party?
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During the 80s, it was a majority Democratic Congress. Reagan didn’t ask for these bills.
It was Democrats who took away benefits, hamstrung efforts and thrashed the retirements of millions of veterans.
The Democratic Congress didn’t have to introduce these bills, but they did. I blame them.
What was outstanding is that off the ‘top of her head’ she could name the revolutions that resulted in the breakaway of georgia and ukraine! Guess she learned alot peering over at Russsia from Alaskan soil.
Another mccain ad discredited and debunked:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/belittling_palin.html
There’s also one on Obama playing fast and loose on mccain, but playing fast and loose doesn’t compare with taking phrases out of context and explicitly giving them different meanings.
McCain says one thing, but does the opposite. Here’s your boy, cons::
Although John McCain has made condemning the influence of lobbyists in Washington one of his signature issues, his own campaign is largely run by high-powered lobbyists, including his campaign manager, Rick Davis.
The connection with Davis appears to be behind McCain’s having spent his 70th birthday partying on the yacht of Italian conman Raffaello Follieri — who hired Davis’s business partner to lobby for him just a few months later — along with Follieri’s then-girlfriend, actress Anne Hathaway. The date was Aug. 29, 2006 and the place was Montenegro, where McCain had traveled with a delegation of US senators to celebrate that nation’s independence.
Although the meeting has been reported previously, the Nation has now confirmed it with a photo of John McCain preparing to board Follieri’s yacht. Rachel Maddow offered an exclusive preview of the photograph on her new MSNBC program on Wednesday, noting that it “appears to undercut the well-crafted, focus group-tested image of John McCain being pushed on the American people.”
Follieri, who was arrested in April for allegedly passing a bad check, has just pleaded guilty to eight counts of wire fraud and five counts of money-laundering resulting from a scheme in which he obtained millions of dollars in investments by claiming to have connections in the Vatican.
“The McCain campaign has confirmed the senator’s encounter with the conman guy,” Maddow noted, “telling the New York Daily News it was ‘entirely social’ and ‘nothing came of it.’” She went on to wonder how come, in that case, “it is Barack Obama who is the celebrity, when McCain is the one spending his birthday on a yacht in the Adriatic Sea with a faboo movie star and her conman Italian boyfriend?”
Maddow was then joined by Ari Berman, co-author of the Nation article on the McCain-Follieri encounter, who suggested that McCain “has a little bit of a celebrity fetish.”
Maddow asked, “Do we know why [Follieri] hired Rick Davis’s lobbying firm and whether or not that connection had anything to do with John McCain?”
Berman replied that Follieri, who had already tight connections with some of Bill Clinton’s aides and financial supporters, “wanted to do the same thing with McCain. He was playing both sides. … We think he was [in Montenegro] because McCain was there, and what happened after that yacht party with McCain is, he ended up sending Rick Davis business information.”
McCain had marked his previous birthday, Aug. 29, 2005, by celebrating with President Bush as Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans. His 71st birthday in 2007 was spent attempting to raise cash for his then-faltering presidential campaign, with his wife Cindy writing in a fundraising appeal, “Birthdays are always special occasions in the McCain family.”
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Photo_catches_McCain_meeting_with_indicted_0911.html
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dadman
Posted September 12, 2008 at 10:54 am | Permalink
JMWalker – I’m not asking you, I’m asking Caruso
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. . . and I’m asking you. Answer, please.
Obama campaign cares about “the people”
Except of course, when it doesn;t
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-problem-walsh-10-sep10,0,522300.column
Ike sounds pretty serious:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080912/ap_on_re_us/ike
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littlejohn
Posted September 12, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink
Obama campaign cares about “the people”
Except of course, when it doesn;t
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-problem-walsh-10-sep10,0,522300.column
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One moron in a campaign office hardly a serious breach makes. Ridiculous. Got anything real?
“I don’t know Caruso ? what are YOU willing to “sacrifice” for N Korea and China ?”
Not 3,000 American lives and 6 trillion dollars!
If we overthrew every dictator with human rights issues, we’d be a war with much of the world…you want that?
Right now we’re breaking bread with Momar Kadafi, that makes no sense to me either.
well, then quit your bitchin and complain about atrocities around the world. just accept it and go on. maybe you’ll be the last one they come for
This is an excellent editorial on foreign relations with nations such as Libya and what they can be with the “axis of evil.”
http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/2008-09-10-voa2.cfm
Regular…be grateful you have Medicare when you turn 65…if you had to depend on private insurers to get healthcare you’d really be up a creek without a paddle. I can tell you from lots of experience that it’s much eaasier to get the medical treatments you need with Medicaid or Medicare…a little harder now with Medicare since some of it has been given to private companies…the government has not been a problem with reimbursements…but the private sector?..Well, all I can say is just wait until you need something done. They love to deny claims in the hopes that patients who have paid into their policies for years will just give up and pay out of pocket, they really increase their profits by playing that game. Now that part of Medicare has been privatized, the same thing is happening. That’s what happens when you have CEOs more worried about their salaries than providing services for their consumers.
Just be glad you have government subsidized health care when you turn 65…without it you’d be much worse off.
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dadman
Posted September 12, 2008 at 12:18 pm | Permalink
well, then quit your bitchin and complain about atrocities around the world. just accept it and go on. maybe you’ll be the last one they come for
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Still no answer.
That’s OK Dadman…it’s paranoia like your’s that the current administration counts on to wage their war for oil and power. Just keep ignoring what’s really happening in Afganistan and Parkistan and focus on Iraq…that’s what the terrorists are hoping for.
Even Bush stated he no longer worries about Bin Laden…BIG mistake.
What didn’t I answer, Dad?
Sorry Walker…I’m the one who needs to pay attention…my bad!
As long as we talk about the War on Terror as being against certain countries or governments we have no chance.
As much as I’d love to sit here and play with you boys all day, work is calling.
Have a good one! Don’t worry…I’ll be on the lookout for those bad terrorists that are trying to invade and destroy our country because they’re so jealous of our superior lifestyle while I’m out on the streets of Wichita this afternoon!!!
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Monkeyhawk
Posted September 12, 2008 at 12:38 pm | Permalink
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From The Rude Pundit –
“I wish Gibson had just made up s#it to ask her, like ‘Explain the Kerzensteinhoffer Methodology,’ just to see which talking point she thought fit it.”
Look at the video again.
She’s like a
deermoose in the headlights.;^)
VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN
Signed
BULLWINKLE
Did Sarah Palen inflate her resume? Did she really earn a bachelor’s degee and did she really earn a “major” in journalism? I doubt it.
She attended three junior colleges in three years. Small jucos don’t offer journalism majors. That leaves the two state colleges she claimed to have completed credits at. A “major” requires succesful completion of 36 semester credit hours.
Sounds fishy to me. More than likely, she took a lot of “speech” courses — good preparation for beauty contests.
kansasdem
Posted September 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink
Did Sarah Palen inflate her resume? Did she really earn a bachelor’s degee and did she really earn a “major” in journalism? I doubt it.
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Another Lib rumor crushed
“Palin spent her first college semester at Hawaii Pacific College, transferring in 1983 to North Idaho College and then to the University of Idaho. She attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term, returning to the University of Idaho to complete her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987.[15][16]”
# ^ “Palin education took her to five colleges”, Associated Press via Anchorage Daily News. Retrieved on 2008-09-04.
# ^ Boone, Rebecca (2008-08-29). “McCain’s veep pick, Palin, has ties to Idaho”, Seattle Post-Intelligencer. Retrieved on 2008-08-30.
Wiki
Another one for the flip/flop ometer:
“FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska – Vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s assertion that she believes humans play a role in climate change — made in her first major interview since joining the Republican ticket — is at odds with her previous statements.
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Palin said she didn’t disagree with scientists that the problem can be attributed to “man’s activities.”
“Show me where I have ever said that there’s absolute proof that nothing that man has ever conducted or engaged in has had any effect or no effect on climate change. I have not said that,” Palin told ABC News in an interview broadcast Thursday and Friday.
However, in the past Palin has said she does not believe global warming is caused by human activity. She has told the Internet news site Newsmax, “A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. … I’m not one, though, who would attribute it to being man-made.”
You man caused GW deniers must really be proud.
kansasdem
Posted September 12, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink
Did Sarah Palen inflate her resume? Did she really earn a bachelor’s degee and did she really earn a “major” in journalism? I doubt it.
She attended three junior colleges in three years. Small jucos don’t offer journalism majors. That leaves the two state colleges she claimed to have completed credits at. A “major” requires succesful completion of 36 semester credit hours.
Sounds fishy to me. More than likely, she took a lot of “speech” courses — good preparation for beauty contests.
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OK she REALLY doesn’t have a Bachelors Degree.
I’ll add this to the following liberal wisdom I’ve learned on WEBlog:
Baby Trig is actually daughter Bristol’s son.
Her hair style is outdated.
Her husband is an adulterer of Clintonian perportions.
She’s never been out of the US.
She wants to wage a Holy War.
I need to buy some stock in Depends with the amount of libs soiling themselves over Palin.
Here’s something for you CONs to piddle in your Depends:
Questions for the Moose-Dresser
– In view of your being “a lifetime member of the NRA,” what is your reaction to the disclosure that the NRA has been paying a woman to spy on gun violence prevention groups and the victims they represent for over 10 years?
– Most Americans, including President Bush, support banning military-style semiautomatic assault weapons. What is your position?
– Do you agree with Senator McCain that the “gun-show loophole”(allowing individuals to buy guns at a gun show with no background check from so-called “private sellers”) should be closed?
– What did you mean when you described “attacks on our Second Amendment rights” as equivalent to gangs and drug use as something that would “harm family life?” [Eagle Forum Alaska questionnaire, 7-30-06.] Does this include efforts by groups like the Brady Campaign to make it harder for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons?
– Do you agree with Senator McCain that background check approval records for gun purchases should be kept for 90 days instead of 24 hours, that ATF should be able to require gun stores to conduct inventory audits, and that crime gun trace information should be more widely available to law enforcement and the public? [See Senator McCain's statement on the Senate floor, 1-22-04.]
(From the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence)
Check out this website.
It’ll bring back some memories for us older types, the younger folk might learn something:
http://www.livingroomcandidate.org
Can’t remember who posted the Tree Hugger Joke the other day, but this one is a true story:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421602,00.html
Animal Lover Dies From Rat Scratch Days After Rescuing Rodent
Friday, September 12, 2008
A British woman who was scratched several times by a rat she was trying to set free from her bird feeder died six days later from the wound, The Daily Mail reported Friday.
Carol Colburn, 56, refused to wear gloves as she tried to release the rodent, and was clawed so badly she had to give up and have her son, Ross, take over.
Within days of being scratched on May 2, Colburn became ill with flu-like symptoms. Two days later her skin became yellow and she had difficulty moving. She was taken to the hospital and died three-and-a-half hours later, the Mail reported.
What Democrat said this?
, recently told an anti-abortion gathering that the “killing” of unborn babies was the cause of many of America’s woes, including its military, social security, and immigration problems.
“How could this great land of plenty produce too few people in the last 30 years?” Miller asked. “Here is the brutal truth that no one dares to mention: We’re too few because too many of our babies have been killed.”
Miller said that 45 million babies have been “killed” since the Supreme Court decision on Roe v. Wade in 1973.
“If those 45 million children had lived, today they would be defending our country, they would be filling our jobs, they would be paying into Social Security,” he asserted.
“If those 45 million babies had not been murdered would they have let the illegal aliens invade us? I wonder.
Monkeyhawk
Posted September 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
Here’s something for you CONs to piddle in your Depends:
Questions for the Moose-Dresser
Do you mean President Palin?
– In view of your being “a lifetime member of the NRA,” what is your reaction to the disclosure that the NRA has been paying a woman to spy on gun violence prevention groups and the victims they represent for over 10 years?
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Glad to see it
– Most Americans, including President Bush, support banning military-style semiautomatic assault weapons. What is your position?
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Against it
– Do you agree with Senator McCain that the “gun-show loophole”(allowing individuals to buy guns at a gun show with no background check from so-called “private sellers”) should be closed?
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No I support gun shows
– What did you mean when you described “attacks on our Second Amendment rights” as equivalent to gangs and drug use as something that would “harm family life?” [Eagle Forum Alaska questionnaire, 7-30-06.] Does this include efforts by groups like the Brady Campaign to make it harder for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons?
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What idiot would not understand this?
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– Do you agree with Senator McCain that background check approval records for gun purchases should be kept for 90 days instead of 24 hours, that ATF should be able to require gun stores to conduct inventory audits, and that crime gun trace information should be more widely available to law enforcement and the public? [See Senator McCain's statement on the Senate floor, 1-22-04.]
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Nope just another reason I don’t like him.
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Now lets ask obama the mulim a question
Since you support baby killing how many babies has Michele killed?
Until obama starts getting ask a few questions Palin should quit talking to the enemy.
Mary,
It appears to me that you are better off in the past 8 years.
Why is that?
Exactly what policies of Bush do you think are responsible for others not being better off?
You started saying this crap about Tiahrt as well, but as usual, never explained yourself.
How is that new addition to your home? Airplane hanger?
Life must be real tough for you over there.
Sol/Regular: About those imported oil mumbers, there is a factor not readily apparent. Canada will elect new members of Parlaiment in 5 weeks (their elective campaign is only 6 weeks long) where there is a strong undercurrent to have NAFTA revisited(they hate it)and vastly reduce the amount of energy (oil, hydro and gas) shipped south so as to conserve for their own needs. There are mostly FAVORABLE comments about Chavez in the Globe and Mail this morning with some bloggers saying they wish he was running in Canada!
CAN WE GET ANOTHER TIAHRT AMENDMENT TOPIC PLEASE?
(I haven’t seen one for at least a month!)
Ok, I’ll bring it up if The Eagle won’t.
Washington DC continues to fight for its gun ban – To Spite the US Supreme Court.
Notice the FALSE, DRAMATIC, and IMFLAMMATORY lies told by the DC Police Chief!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/09/09/ST2008090902237.html
Gun Bill Dangerous, D.C. Chief Tells House
“Imagine how difficult it will be for law enforcement to safeguard the public” if semiautomatic guns are allowed, D.C. Chief Cathy L. Lanier said.
D.C. Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier assailed a new bill yesterday that would eliminate most of the District’s gun laws, telling a congressional panel that the measure would allow residents to carry loaded semiautomatic rifles in the streets, creating a nightmare scenario for homeland security officials.
“Imagine how difficult it will be for law enforcement to safeguard the public, not to mention the new president at the inaugural parade, if carrying semiautomatic rifles were to suddenly become legal in Washington,” she said.
Now, IF (big IF)a newspaper could actually RESEARCH & READ a Bill before publishing such BS, maybe the PRESS would actually be worth reading again, and sales would not be sliding.
Here’s the DC Gun Bill #HR6691:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.6691:
This Bill will:
1. Repeal the DC ban on semi-automatic rifles and pistols. (Commonly used in all 50 States!)
2. Repeal Gun Registration. (It serves no law enforcement purpose.)
3. Repeals Handgun Ammo ban. (Banning the bullets effectively bans the guns, ya know. Duh.)
4. Restores the Right to Self Defense in the Home.
5. Allows DC residents to buy guns in either MD or VA. (There are no gun stores in DC – a de facto ban!)
NOTE:
HR6691 does NOT say that guns can be carried in the streets. HR6691 is NOT a Shall Issue Carry law!
So why does the Police Chief LIE and say:
“Imagine how difficult it will be for law enforcement to safeguard the public” if semiautomatic guns are allowed, D.C. Chief Cathy L. Lanier said.
D.C. Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier assailed a new bill yesterday that would eliminate most of the District’s gun laws, telling a congressional panel that the measure would allow residents to carry loaded semiautomatic rifles in the streets, creating a nightmare scenario for homeland security officials.
“Imagine how difficult it will be for law enforcement to safeguard the public, not to mention the new president at the inaugural parade, if carrying semiautomatic rifles were to suddenly become legal in Washington,” she said.”
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Like the DC cops CAN safeguard the public now???? The hell they can!
Note too that Obamaman has opposed all 5 of these measures in his past Obama supported the DC Gun Ban, before he was against it.
1. Repeal the DC ban on semi-automatic rifles and pistols. (Commonly used in all 50 States!)
2. Repeal Gun Registration. (It serves no law enforcement purpose.)
3. Repeals Handgun Ammo ban. (Banning the bullets effectively bans the guns, ya know. Duh.)
4. Restores the Right to Self Defense in the Home.
5. Allows DC residents to buy guns in either MD or VA. (There are no gun stores in DC – a de facto ban!)
I agree with Kandisue on the gun points above. (Surprise!)
But please, you gun-banners, please do explain to me exactly WHAT IS The Gun Show Loophole?
Have you ever been to a gun show? Do you have a clue? Or do you just lap up dailykos.com 3 times a day?
I’ve been to several gun shows in several States, and I’ve yet to see any loophole.
In the words of the Wendy’s star Clara Peller from years ago, WHERE’S THE BEEF????
(Where’s the Gunshow Loophole!)
Max,
Most of the gunshows I have been to are set up in a “loop” of tables.
That “hole” you are looking for is somewhere in the middle.
They usually pick one random table somewhere and that is where they hide the “Loophole”
Don’t ask anyone at the next gunshow you go to, they are pretty protective of their “loophole” and might just escort you out.
Or, just make sure you get all your shopping done first.
Kandi still hasn’t gotten laid yet, apparently.
Lord knows, I’m not volunteering myself.
I pity the fool . . .
Anyway, here’s the latest attempt by McCain to ratf*** the election in swing states:
Ballot snafu endangers votes
By Jon Craig September 11, 2008
About one-third of the absentee ballot applications received at the Hamilton
County Board of Elections have been ruled invalid because Republican Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign printed a version of the form with an extra, unneeded box on it.
In a narrow interpretation of Ohio law, Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner says many of the McCain forms have not been completed properly. If the box stating the person is an eligible elector — or qualified voter – is not checked, Brunner said, the application is no good.
Even though the box is unneeded, by not checking it voters are essentially admitting they’re not eligible, Brunner said.
“I have not seen a ruling that indirectly impacts voters to the enormity of this since I’ve been here,’’ Hamilton County Board of Elections Deputy Director John Williams said of his nearly five-year tenure at the board.
More than 750 absentee ballot requests in Hamilton County have been invalidated because of Brunner’s ruling, Williams said
Apparently, Kandi hasn’t figured out that a lot of college-educated liberals know how to use birth control and thus never need to make a decision on abortion.
Apparently, Kandi is just a mirror image of Max… Only dumber….
From salon.com:
Knowles pointed to the recent “per diem” controversy as one example of the petty ways Palin has “gamed the system” for personal gain. “By establishing the governor’s house in Juneau as her home of record, instead of her family residence in Wasilla where she actually lives, Palin was able to charge the state for $17,000 in per diem expenses. Everybody in the state knows she doesn’t really live in Juneau — she just stays there a few days when the Legislature is in session. She lives in Wasilla, so she shouldn’t be generating travel expenses there. But she hit up the state for $17,000 a year for meals — that’s not what I call just macaroni and cheese for the kids.”
Knowles thinks the “Troopergate” scandal — Palin’s alleged misuse of her office to fire a state trooper involved in a messy divorce with her sister — is an even more blatant example of the vice-presidential candidate’s abuse of power: “This is the very definition of corruption — using the power of your office and directing government employees to do something illegal for your personal advantage. She was using her office to pursue a personal vendetta.”
And, Knowles pointed out, after promising to fully cooperate with a legislative investigation, Palin has since hired a lawyer at the state’s expense, who has advised her staff not to cooperate, and she is now trying to sabotage the probe by handing the case to a personnel board made up of her own appointees. “She clearly doesn’t want the truth out before the election. The fact that she might be elected before the American people know the full story is very disturbing.”
This is a great story:~)
A holy man was having a conversation with the Lord one day and said, ‘Lord, I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like.’
The Lord led the holy man to two doors.
He opened one of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the middle of the room was a large round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew, which smelled delicious and made the holy man’s mouth water.
The people sitting around the table were thin and sickly. They appeared to be famished. They were holding spoons with very long handles that were strapped to their arms and each found it possible to reach into the pot of stew and take a spoonful. But because the handle was longer than their arms, they could not get the spoons back into their mouths.
The holy man shuddered at the sight of their misery and suffering.
The Lord said, ‘You have seen Hell.’
They went to the next room and opened the door. It was exactly the same as the first one. There was the large round table with the large pot of
stew which made the holy man’s mouth water. The people were equipped with the same long-handled spoons, but here the people were well nourished and plump, laughing and talking. The holy man said, ‘I don’t understand.’
It is simple,’ said the Lord. ‘It requires but one skill. You see they have learned to feed each other, while the greedy think only of themselves.’
Please know I will always share my spoon with you :~)
“Could a Catholic in good conscience vote for a candidate who supports legalized abortion when there is a choice of another candidate who does not support abortion or any other intrinsically evil policy? In such a case, the Catholic voter must ask and answer the question: What could possibly be a proportionate reason for the more than 45 million children killed by abortion in the past 35 years? Personally, we cannot conceive of such a proportionate reason.”
. . . Kansas City, Kansas Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann and Kansas City – St. Joseph Bishop Robert W. Finn, in Thursday’s pastoral letter
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André Lalonde, executive vice-president of the Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada, comments that he is worried that abortions and abortion mill profits in Canada will decline if mothers of babies diagnosed before birth with Down Syndrome are influenced by Gov. Sarah Palin to refrain from contracting the mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading of their children in abortion mills. Lalonde implies that the birth of babies with disabilities will ruin the lives of the mothers and their families, and should therefore be discouraged, and instead, profitable abortions encouraged as “easy” solutions [entailing no more than a few hundred dollars, long-term severe depression and a lifetime of regret and remorse, and perhaps also some significant physical and psychological scarring and complications for the mother].
Meanwhile, attack dog Biden accused Gov. Sarah Palin of disregard for the well-being of disabled children, because of her opposition to useless, unethical embryonic stem cell research, which has no application whatsoever to Down Syndrome, and has never cured or beneficially treated any human condition, and likely never will.
[Gov. Palin supports hugely successful adult stem cell research, producing new cures each year.]
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“The appellee … argue that the fetus is a “person” within the language and meaning of the 14th Amendment. … If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant’s case, of course, collapses, for the fetus’ right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment.”
. . . leftist, activist, baby-hating “justice” Harry Blackmun, crudely attempting justification of his Roe v. Wade majority decision, in his ignorance 35 years ago of today’s micoroscopic videos of human conception and 4D ultrasounds showing human behavior long before birth
[The argument for the illegal striking down by the federal judiciary of state abortion restrictions enacted by elected lawmakers has already completely collapsed, only the powerful, rich, and corrupting abortion lobby refuses to admit it.]
Let me guess, without reading the above post, it was about abortion.
Parkay is against it.
Am I right?
Hey, Parkay, if you’re not married, you might try hooking up with Kandisue.
You could read The Bible out loud together.
CapnAmerica,
The alleged and self proclaimed Christian and Sunday School teacher once again making fun of someone by using the fact that they might read the Bible.
As if that would be an insult to people who actually are Christians let alone why someone calling themselves one would try to use it as an insult.
Flood Preparations Underway
Date: September 11, 2008
Contact: Dale Goter, Government Relations Manager
E-mail: DGoter@wichita.gov
Phone: (316) 371-0134 (mobile)
With a wary eye on the forecast, the City of Wichita Public Works Department and other emergency responders are making preparations for severe flooding that could result from heavy rains during the next several days.
The memory of the infamous 1998 Halloween Flood is still vivid in the minds of city workers and local residents who witnessed major damage in west Wichita when eight inches of rain fell over a three-day period. East Wichita is also vulnerable to flood damage in the Gypsum Creek basin.
“We don’t want to sound too alarmist,” cautioned Chris Carrier, Public Works Director, “but the possibility of as much as 12 inches of rain over the next several days is nothing to take lightly.”
City workers will be closely monitoring rainfall and stream depths as rainfall from Hurricane Ike and other weather fronts moves across south-central Kansas.
Flood control structures, pumps and other equipment have been inspected to ensure they are in the best possible condition to deal with a heavy rainfall.
“Even though a number of flood control improvements have been installed in recent years,” Carrier said, “residents should pay close attention to weather forecasts and be prepared to protect their property.”
One of the most important additions for the average citizen is the availability of flood monitoring data on the internet. Information includes current stream depths, along with historical data that indicates when stream flow is approaching hazardous levels for adjacent properties. The following links provide real-time data measurements of rainfall and stream flow.
The links include:
* USGS Cowskin Flood Watch
* NWS Cowskin Flood Prediction
* National Weather Service Forecast Center for Wichita
Citizens are also advised to avoid flooded streets and to be alert for barricades that block off flooded areas.
The City, along with Sedgwick County Emergency Management, will continue to monitor approaching weather systems and will make every effort to keep citizens informed.
Meanwhile, citizens should consider taking some precautions now, especially those who live in flood prone areas, Carrier said.
Hurricane Ike Causes Flight Cancellations
Date: September 11, 2008
Contact: Valerie Wise, Air Service & Business Development Manager
E-mail: VWise@wichita.gov
Phone: (316) 946-4700
Continental Airlines has cancelled all departures from Wichita Mid-Continent Airport after 8 a.m. Friday, Sept. 12, until Sunday morning, Sept. 14. Currently, CO flight 2327 departing at 6:25 a.m. and CO flight 2810 departing at 7:55 a.m. will be the last two departures from Wichita on Friday, and CO flight 2799 arriving Wichita at 10:02 a.m. will be the last arrival, also on Friday.
Passengers needing to rebook should call Continental Reservations at (800) 523-3273 or ask the counter agents at the terminal to refer to GG IKE for rebooking procedures. Visit http://www.flywichita.com for updated information.
Sandbags available from City, County
Date: September 12, 2008
Contact:Dale Goter, Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
A limited number of sandbags are being made available to the public Friday, Sept. 12, by the public works departments of the City of Wichita and Sedgwick County.
Ten trucks loaded with sand and empty sandbags have been dispatched by the City of Wichita to selected locations. Citizens will be allowed to load bags and take them to their property for flood control use. A limited number of pre-filled bags will be available.
Additionally, filled sand bags will also be available at the Sedgwick County Public Works West Yard at 47th Street South and West Street. Supplies are limited and are available on a first come, first served basis.
Locations of the 10 City of Wichita trucks include:
* Firefly Street south of 13th Street
* Lost Creek east of 119th Street
* Jayson Lane west of 119th Street
* Wetmore east of Maize (north entrance)
* Seville and Kellogg
* Hidden Valley and Taft
* 119th and Lynndale
* Rainbow Lake south of Central.
FLOOD ADVISORY
Date: September 12, 2008
Contact: Dale Goter, Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
West Wichita subdivisions urged to take extreme caution
Continued heavy rainfall in west Wichita has created the possibility of residential flooding that could equal or exceed flood levels of the Halloween Flood of 1998.
The City of Wichita Fire Department and Sedgwick County Emergency Management have begun alerting residents in west Wichita subdivisions about the possible flooding dangers.
Those subdivisions, located in the Cowskin Creek Basin, include the Dell, Hidden Lakes, Rainbow Lakes, Breezy Point and the area around Lynndale and 119th Streets.
Heavy rains over the past 24 hours have created the need for extreme caution and alertness, according to Chris Carrier, City of Wichita Public Works Director.
“We’ve had eight inches of rain in parts of the Cowskin Creek basin in one day,” Carrier said. “By comparison, the Halloween flood of 1998 was caused by eight inches of rain in two days.”
The intense rain has caused Dry Creek to climb to within one foot of flood levels that would divert water into Wichita, one of the key contributors to the 1998 flood, he said.
Depending on individual circumstances, residents should consider actions from evacuation to protection of property, Carrier said.
Nathaniel posted September 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/palin-gives-a-c-plus-performance-so-far/#comment-423831
“Why don’t you go listen to some music and relax.”
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Nathaniel, a U.S. Marine, and a true Christian, stole lots of music, and video.
Nathaniel posted September 11, 2008 at 3:39 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/open-thread-911-2/#comment-422805
“I know it is “stealing” but I have about 100 GB of Music that I have from Iraq with another 500GB of movies and TV shows.”
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Nathaniel, how much would that music and video cost you, if you had actually bought the CDs and DVDs?
Nathan, say 3 Hail Ronald’s; and ONE “Larry the Cable Guy” apology’s….
Good night; good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!!
Peace and Safety to all in the path of Ike!!
So mote it be!!
No response from BJ to the challenge there. Says a lot about you BJ.Wouldn’t have required much except a yes or no. But let me answer for you,”I don’t waste my time on cons” Well just FYI I don’t identify my self as a con or a lib just an American.What do you say BJ yes or no?