Questions linger about how much due diligence John McCain’s campaign did before picking Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for the vice presidential spot. By contrast, the vetting by the Barack Obama campaign of possible running mate Gov. Kathleen Sebelius’ was “probably the most intense and extensive scrutiny that I or my family members have ever experienced,” Sebelius told the Hutchinson News. Even her two adult sons were “thoroughly vetted” in separate interviews, she said.
Asked about her interest in an Obama Cabinet post, she said again that she loves being governor and it would have to be “absolutely the right mission with the right set of people.” Sounds like she’s interested — as well as pre-vetted.
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All that vetting and still not chosen as the running mate? Even when the candidate need to reach out to women she gets passed over for the old white guy with foot and mouth disease.
Reality check time. Picking a running mate is 99% political. The remaining 1% is vetting or checking for any deep dark secrets.
Rumors are that one of the stories about Palin was one released by McCain campaign to entrap some Democratic party moles in McCaign’s campaign. It’ll be interesting to see who has to quit for ‘personal reasons’ in the near future. :)
Just another effort by the lib Eagle to discredit Palin. Kathy is just a wimp of a governor.
Lets all hope Kathy never gets an option on a cabinet post or anything else related to government again.
She is bland.
KS needs to represent the state she was elected too and getting paid by and quit campaigning so opening for Obama while on state business. If that is her desire please resign and let someone take over who wants to be the governor of our great state and not in Washington,DC. She is jealous because Sarah has so much she doesn’t. Maybe if she would try honesty and respect it would get her farther. Probably not with Obama as he doesn’t know the definition of either one. KS stop whining and stay neutral while on state business and let those of us who are unbiased and well informed make our own decision. It is clear your judgement is clouded over my personal ambitions and Democratic lies.
Bottom line?
Foot in mouth Biden won against In Tiller’s pocket Sebelius!
That’s how true wise leaders make decisions, gather all the info. they can get in the time they have, and pick the most qualified person for the job.
They don’t base it merely on politics.
It was never going to be Sebelius.
Her son’s prison game “Don’t drop the soap” (sold out of the governors mansion) would have made her and the campaign a laughing stock.
Then there are the close ties to Tiller. Obama did not need to add that to his campaign. He already has his Illinois issue to deal with.
Sebelius could only bring baggage along with her money. But Obama will still get the money.
It should be investigated as to how much we are paying for her to travel for Obama and how much is not getting done in Kansas while she is flying around for him.
If the research is correct Sebelius does not even own a home in Kansas anymore. She does own one out of state.
If she owns a home out of state, should she decide to stay there, would we have to pay her a per diem? If not she should have bought one in state so we could help her pay for it.
Larry Sinclair
This name is more important than any name out of Alaska.
Larry Sinclair was PROSECUTED by a stacked Grand Jury, the Jury Foreman is an Obama supporter.
The Prosecutor’s last name is: Biden!
All charges were dropped, in this case, AFTER Biden was named as Obama’s running mate!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2082001/posts
This was an abuse of power, with no excuse other than politics!
For the record, Sinclair is “out there” and rather extreme.
However, we are not supposed to have “political prisoners” in this country.
Sinclair was a political prisoner of the Obama and Biden political organization.
“Frustrated by the stonewalling, Sinclair made a now infamous YouTube video where he laid out the story of his two night encounter with Obama, including the gay sex and cocaine use. Some exact dates are not readily available to me, but I believe this first YouTube posting was made in February, 2008. A bit later an organization known as whitehouse.com, headed by Don Parisi, offered Sinclair $10,000 to take a polygraph and $100,000 if he passed it on the claims regarding Obama. Whether Sinclair knew it or not, whitehouse.com was a former porn site that had only recently gotten into political commentary, the original aims of which were to attack President Bill Clinton and his wife. It was in essence a smear site against the Clintons.
After taking the polygraph and collecting his $10,000, Sinclair was informed that the “expert” hired to administer and interpret the polygraph, a person by the name of Ed Gelb, found that Sinclair was “deceptive” on the questions of the drug use and sex with Obama. Problem is, Gelb had a phony Ph.D., plus the transparency that was assured regarding making the computer readout of the results available to independent experts for their own verification never occurred. Parisi simply accepted the word of Gelb without a chance to verify his interpretation, violating the spirit of the agreement. In short, Sinclair had been duped. Sinclair even received a tip a short time later that the polygraph examiner was paid off by someone in the Obama campaign to the tune of $750,000.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2077817/posts
Talk about Sebelius son, how’s this, Trak is a Limbaugh wannabe, and loves his OXY!
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/65407?cid=RSS
Paul – haven’t you stated that defamation is ‘actionable’? If so; then ‘actioning’ it does not create a ‘political prisoner’.
Lets explore this story with the idea that Sinclair is lying, in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY
Why, then, did Attorney General Biden have to have Sinclair arrested, in another jurisdiction, and extradited to Delaware, on a Felony warrant, only to later drop all charges?
I am saying that Senator Joe Biden’s son, Beu Biden, the Attorney General of Delaware, abused his power in a politically motivated prosecution, in order to protect Obama!
Ben
Truth is an absolute defense against libel or slander.
By the way, why isn’t Obama’s web page refuting any of the allegations that Sinclair is making?
Sinclair has a criminal past.
I am not sure that I believe Sinclair.
However, what Attorney General Biden did was clearly wrong.
Phantom
Obama ADMITS to using drugs.
That is a bit different than a candidates son being ACCUSED of using drugs.
“By the way, why isn’t Obama’s web page refuting any of the allegations that Sinclair is making?”
Probably because it is difficult keeping up with all the Repuke lies.
Is Trak just a nick name because of all of the tracks on his arms?
Has anyone bothered to ask Sarah what here experience is with drugs?
“I am not sure that I believe Sinclair.”
But as a paid representative of the GOP I’ll sure spread the allegations around.
The voters didn’t do a good job of vetting 0bama and now they are stuck with a sweaty loser. He talks about being a community organizer as though that’s an honorable thing! What a fool – as are those anti-American socialists who support(ed) him.
I can now understand how Palin accomplished her amazing basketball game with injures, she was hopped up.
Franklin
“Frustrated by the stonewalling, Sinclair made a now infamous YouTube video where he laid out the story of his two night encounter with Obama, including the gay sex and cocaine use. Some exact dates are not readily available to me, but I believe this first YouTube posting was made in February, 2008. A bit later an organization known as whitehouse.com, headed by Don Parisi, offered Sinclair $10,000 to take a polygraph and $100,000 if he passed it on the claims regarding Obama. Whether Sinclair knew it or not, whitehouse.com was a former porn site that had only recently gotten into political commentary, the original aims of which were to attack President Bill Clinton and his wife. It was in essence a smear site against the Clintons.
After taking the polygraph and collecting his $10,000, Sinclair was informed that the “expert” hired to administer and interpret the polygraph, a person by the name of Ed Gelb, found that Sinclair was “deceptive” on the questions of the drug use and sex with Obama. Problem is, Gelb had a phony Ph.D., plus the transparency that was assured regarding making the computer readout of the results available to independent experts for their own verification never occurred. Parisi simply accepted the word of Gelb without a chance to verify his interpretation, violating the spirit of the agreement. In short, Sinclair had been duped. Sinclair even received a tip a short time later that the polygraph examiner was paid off by someone in the Obama campaign to the tune of $750,000.”
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So what is your feel for the story? Did obama have homosexual sex? Or does he just support those that do?
Phantom
Is Trak just a nick name because of all of the tracks on his arms?
Has anyone bothered to ask Sarah what here experience is with drugs?
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Didn’t obama say he did cocaine? Or did he said he liked doing cocaine?
I know he said one of those two I just can’t remember which.
What are the words to his theme song?
Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
‘Cause he’s not authentic like me.
Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They’ll vote for him, and not for me
‘Cause he’s not from the hood.
See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!
[refrain] Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
‘Cause he’s black, but not authentically.
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
‘Cause he’s black, but not authentically.
Some say Barack’s “articulate”
And bright and new and “clean.”
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper’s dream!
But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don’t be fooled!
Don’t vote the Magic Negro in –
‘Cause — ’cause I won’t have nothing after all these years of sacrifice
And I won’t get justice. This is about justice. This isn’t about me, it’s about justice.
It’s about buffet. I don’t have no buffet and there won’t be any church contributions,
And there’ll be no cash in the collection plate.
There ain’t gonna be no cash money, no walkin’ around money, no phoning money.
Now, Barack going to come in here and –
By the way, Ben
You DO understand the difference between:
Civil Torts
And
Criminal Charges
Don’t you?
From your ignorant posts, above, it appears you do not.
I could, successfully, sue someone for libel or slander, yet that person might NEVER see the inside of a jail cell or prison. Unless, of course, that person refused to pay up. Then that person would be in contempt of court.
Under ordinary circumstances, no Attorney General, of ANY state, should ever be involved in a libel or slander case. Those are CIVIL torts, not criminal cases.
So, IF AG Biden’s intent was to silence Sinclair, that was a clear abuse of power.
Extradition is a big deal. To extradite on a bogus charge, against a political opponent of your father, Joe Biden, and then to drop all charges after you get the guy in a Delaware jail?
Kandi
The point is abuse of power and unjust political prosecution.
The homosexual issue is, frankly, not relevent to the fact that AG Biden abused his power to protect Obama.
Even if Sinclair is lying, no AG has a right, or the authority, to take action on that fact, alone.
My take on it all is that the porn site wanted something juicy that voyeurs like kandisue and Paul would find titallating. Drives ‘hits’ to their porn site.
“By the way, Ben
You DO understand the difference between:
Civil Torts
And
Criminal Charges
Don’t you?
From your ignorant posts, above, it appears you do not.”
Yes, Paul, I do. However, I also know that there can be criminal charges in some cases. As OJ learned, the same act can be tried as criminal and civil.
And as for your buddy Sinclair – if you think Biden abused process I am sure you can fine someone with standing to file a complaint. I’m sure Biden is more knowledgeable of the law than you are – even though you ARE an expert in defamation.
and of course, Ben, you think that it is ok of AG Biden to go after this guy, and extradite him to Delaware, only to drop all of the charges?
I didn’t say that Paul. I said that if there is a problem then someone with standing should do something about it. Right now all we have is your porn source.
Ben
I did not EVER post a “porn source”
I posted a link that showed that the phony “polygraph test” given to Sinclair, by a phony “Phd” was paid for by a porn site that was operating as a support group against Hillary Clinton.
My posts certainly made clear that the “polygraph test” should not be trusted since a PORN SITE paid for said “polygraph test” —
And, this point works AGIANST Obama!
I have to admit that is is real hard for me to feel outrage when a lowlife scum ‘gets his’ like Sinclair did. But, even a lowlife should be entitled to due process. And, if he did not receive due process I am sure the GOP will provide him with a bunch of lawyers.
Actually Paul – it does not. The fact that a Democrat-hater used a phoney PhD should reflect only on the professional Clinton-haters.
Of course, the club had made clear for some time that it should not be viewed as endorsing Mr. Sinclair’s claims simply for having agreed to host his mind-numbingly preposterous litany — heavens, no! All that could be said for the institution was that it was happy to rent out its space to anyone who might be willing to pay in order to switch on the microphone.
And pay Sinclair did — for the venue and its microphone, as well as for a kilted lawyer (with a suspended license) named Montgomery Blair Sibley, who informed those assembled that his preferences in dress were arrived at as a way to secure comfort for his unusually large sexual organs. “I don’t know why men wear pants,” he said with a poker face. “It’s a function of male genitalia. If you’re size normal or smaller, you’re probably comfortable with [pants]. … Those at the other end of the spectrum find them quite confining.”
“I asked him to wear a suit and tie,” Mr. Sinclair said ruefully. Then, he admitted to suffering from a brain tumor.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/18/obama-accuser-larry-sincl_n_107900.html
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A bit on Blair Sibley:
While this 50-year-old scion of the highborn has recently been suggesting that he could make public the names of the 10,000 in order to protect his client Deborah Jeane Palfrey, he had to pay less attention to urgent business in two other places.
One was Florida, where the state bar was seeking to yank his license for at least two years. He was found guilty in absentia (in part for being a “vexatious litigant”) and now faces suspension if not disbarment. “He is someone who abuses the legal process,” says Barnaby Min, counsel for the Florida Bar.
The second was in Montgomery County, where he was to stand trial for failing to pay $11,218.20 in past-due rent on office space in Gaithersburg for a tiny shipping-crate company he heads. That trial was continued.
Something is amiss here, and we haven’t even gotten to the part where he sued the U.S. Supreme Court for treason (twice!), asking for $1 million in damages. Or that he spent 77 days in a Miami jail for refusing to pay child support. Or that Maryland has stopped him from running a law office in the state. Or that federal prosecutors in Palfrey’s case say Sibley’s filings are so ignorant of basic legal tenets that they are “almost incoherent.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/03/AR2007050302233.html
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I think the caliber of said people pretty much dispels any trace of truth capable of coming out of their collective mouths. So why, for any reason, would the Obama camp waste any words on dispelling what is, in both fact and essence, pure b**l s**t.
Even a legit. polygraph isn’t worth the time it takes to administer. Only good for scaring unsophisticated people charged with crimes.
“Then, he admitted to suffering from a brain tumor.”
That explains (a) why he is helping McCain and (b) why GOP spokespersons Paul and Kandisue feel such an affinity with him.
JM
Again, no matter what the circumstances, no matter the truth or falsity of the charges, no matter the truth of Sinclair’s statements, Sinclair was extradited by AG Biden, and then the charges were dropped.
At best, this was really, really stupid for AG Biden to do this.
At worst? This was a politically motivated prosecution.
By the way, Obama DOES have this irritating habit of hanging around with kooks. That an Obama associate is nuts is not, by itself, very newsworthy.
Well Paul – if it was wrong for Biden to extradite your buddy then I’m sure your Party will sue. But I won’t hold my breath!
;)
Ben
There are Clinton supporters who hate Obama.
There are Obama supporters who hate Clinton.
You are making a bit of a leap, that a porn site would find more in common with Republicans than it would with Democrats, and that the fake polygraph was paid for by Republicans.
That is not what happened.
An anti Clinton group paid for the bogus polygraph so that Hillary could not use Sinclair against Obama.
Paul thinks it perfectly okay to charge rape victims $200 to investigate the physical evidence of the crime.
In Paul’s world, daring to criticize the mayor who allowed this practice is somehow an attack on religion. I’m not sure which church holds that view (maybe Our Lady of She Was Asking For It?), but I suspect their website would be a hoot.
Now: let’s talk about Joe Biden! :)
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Franklin
Posted September 14, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
JM
Again, no matter what the circumstances, no matter the truth or falsity of the charges, no matter the truth of Sinclair’s statements, Sinclair was extradited by AG Biden, and then the charges were dropped.
At best, this was really, really stupid for AG Biden to do this.
At worst? This was a politically motivated prosecution.
By the way, Obama DOES have this irritating habit of hanging around with kooks. That an Obama associate is nuts is not, by itself, very newsworthy.
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The guy was so obviously brain dead, prosecuting him would be considered a violation of the handicap law. One conversation with him, and an idiot could figure that out. You can’t fix stupid, and stupid is what he is.
I won’t even qualify your last statement with a response.
P.S. Briefly looked up the supposed Sinclair/Delaware/Biden connection. Looks like it’s the typical unsupported nonsense we’ve come to expect from freepers like Paul.
Rage,
When you are trying to make a point about the “unsupported nonsense” other here post, you don’t do yourself any favors by then posting the same type of BS about Palin making rape victims pay for their own tests.
Nitwit.
When I was in the army, I once had a fractured foot. The brass thought I was faking, because during the day I had to use crutches to walk, but in the evening I’d smoke some (a lot) pot and would be walking around feeling no pain.
So it is very conceivable that Sarah played her triumphant game while doing something.
Phantom,
Firgures you were a doper.
*GASP*
Phantom is/was a drug abuser? I’m shocked!
heh
Kathy could be the ambassador to Tillerastan or Abortiontina.
Back in nam, when I Was Young! Gave it all up after getting married.
Now days we kick sorry excuses for soldiers like you out of the military.
Other than Honorable Discharge.
You must be so proud.
When you are trying to make a point about the “unsupported nonsense” other here post, you don’t do yourself any favors by then posting the same type of BS about Palin making rape victims pay for their own tests.
Nitwit.
Funny how Nathan remembers the allegation while forgetting the documentation that accompanied it.
How convenient.
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Knowles signs sexual assault bill
Published on Monday, May 22, 2000 9:00 PM AKDT
JO C. GOODE / The Frontiersman / May 23, 2000
ANCHORAGE – Gov. Tony Knowles recently signed legislation protecting victims of sexual assault from being billed for tests to collect evidence of the crime, but one local police chief said the new law will further burden taxpayers.
The governor signed House Bill 270, sponsored by Rep. Eric Croft, D-Anchorage, outside the Sexual Assault Response Team (SART) exam room at Alaska Regional Hospital. In attendance at the signing were members of victims advocate groups, law enforcement agencies and legislators.
The new law makes it illegal for any law enforcement agency to bill victims or victims insurance companies for the costs of examinations that take place to collect evidence of a sexual assault or determine if a sexual assault did occur.
We would never bill the victim of a burglary for fingerprinting and photographing the crime scene, or for the cost of gathering other evidence, Knowles said. Nor should we bill rape victims just because the crime scene happens to be their bodies.
While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.
Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.
In the past we’ve charged the cost of exams to the victims insurance company when possible. I just don’t want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer, Fannon said.
According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases.
Ultimately it is the criminal who should bear the burden of the added costs, Fannon said.
The forensic exam is just one part of the equation. Id like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things, Fannon said.
Fannon said he intends to include the cost of exams required to collect evidence in a restitution request as a part of a criminals sentencing.
Palmer police chief Laren Zager said that to his knowledge, no sexual assault victim has ever been billed by the city of Palmer for an exam to collect evidence of a crime. Zager, who has been police chief since January, said he would never expect a victim to be burdened with the cost of a police investigation.
I’m prepared to pay every dime in an investigation. As long as I am chief, I would never bill a victim, Zager said.
The new bill would also make law enforcement agencies that are investigating a sexual assault responsible for the costs of testing victims for sexually transmitted diseases and emergency contraception.
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http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt
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It turns out that Wasilla did not bill sexual assault victims for the cost of rape exams while Irl Stambaugh was chief of police. As chief, he had included a line item in the budget to pay for the cost of such exams. He had only just heard about the Mayor Palin/Chief Fannon policy today, and was just as shocked to hear about it as I was.
Checking the budget confirmed former Chief Stambaugh’s claim. He had included a contingency of $15,000 in his budget for the department’s 1st year of existence (1993-1994), $5,000 for 1994-1995 and 1995-1996, and $13,000 for his final year as police chief in 1996-1997, spending $11,625.
Duwayne Charles Fannon, his replacement, halved the budget request in 1997-1998, with a request of $7,298, spending $3,454. However, it seems he began the “victim pays” policy in the 1998-1999 fiscal year. That year, he requested $3,000 but spent only $205. This data can be found in the Document Central section of Wasilla’s website.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instituted-ra_b_125833.html
blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/don%E2%80%99t-%E2%80%98misunderestimate%E2%80%99-palin/#comment-423981
Rage,
Wonderful. The problem is where this was a Palin policy or where she was responsible for charging victims.
The only think I have seen is where The Chief charged their insurance when possible.
Do you have any proof of where they actually made a victim pay?
Anything?
This is the exact kind of BS of where you are trying to link something to Palin with no proof.
The only think I have seen is where The Chief charged their insurance when possible.
Game, set, match. Keep spinning if you want.
Rage,
Spinning what?
Show me where it was a Palin policy? Where she knew about it? Endorsed it? Or where anyone was actually charged?
Game, set, match.
P.S. Where is your proof that the Wasilla PD didn’t charge those who lacked the proper insurance?
Rage,
It is not my job to prove a negative.
Where is your proof that they did?
“the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.”
Period.
“That is not what happened.
An anti Clinton group paid for the bogus polygraph”
Paul – I have met many Clinton-haters over the past 15 years. Each and every one has been a Republic. And here on this blog it is two GOP representatives who are pushing it – not a Clinton Democrat.
I received the Cross of Gallantry and Bronze Star (personal recognition) what do you have, punk?
Where is your proof that they did?
Your inability to read isn’t my problem.
You’re turning a declaration that insurance would be charged whenever possible to a statement that those who lacked the insurance wouldn’t be charged. Not the same thing at all.
The Frontiersman article clearly states, in a simple, declarative sentence, that they were charged.
The proof that they were charged is Chief Fannon’s public admission, and objection to the state law, the reported statement of the previous police chief, and Wasilla’s own budget figures. Money was coming in.
If no one was ever charged, then. . .why did the policy exist? And why would the chief of police care either way? How many instances of you heard of insurance being charged and the “customer” (in this instance, victim), not being charged?
And do you realize also that you’re defending official insurance fraud?
Latest revision in defense of our next possible president: The Buck Stops With The Chief Of Police .
I’ve had enough ridiculous Nathanisms for the day, so I think I’ll leave it at that.
Rage,
That is wonderful, now how is that connected to Palin?
Where has she expressed any support for the practice or condoned it?
Rage,
When you come back, bring some facts with you instead of more liberal lies.
Nathan
I have figured out another answer to some of this crap the libs are tossing out there:
Why is it “micromanaging” for Palin to be involved in library matters, but EXPECTED for Palin to be involved in the decisions to bill insurance companies, for rape kits?
And, let’s not forget, right after she won mayorship (and having stated that she could handle the responsibilit ‘it’s not rocket science) she immediately hired a City Manager, heretofore unnecessary. So it really wasn’t her responsibility, now was it?
Beyond one sentence in an article saying that the Police Department charged victims of rape… did they?
Do we have any documents showing where someone was actually billed?
Phantom,
Congratulations on your awards. It doesn’t change the fact that you are an admitted doper.
Now days people like that are kicked out and receive an other than honorable discharge.
No, at least back then, for pot, they receive an article 15. I don’t believe it’s changed that much. And, if you think the troops in Iraq aren’t using something (at least the ones actually doing the fighting) it’s because no one trusted you.
I have a cousin who owns a large tire story in another state. I ask him one time recently about drug testing his employees and he said if he did that he wouldn’t have anybody working for him.
Said he has 45 long time employees and hires 450 others during the year to maintain a total of 95.
Said the work ethic has dropped dramaticly in the last 10 years.
Did say however that most of the turn over people would vote for obama assuming they weren’t drunk on election day. Said over all they weren’t very bright.
By the way any of you posters that are for obama ever work in tire store in another state?
What an excellent juxaposition!
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Phantom
Posted September 14, 2008 at 4:11 pm | Permalink
I received the Cross of Gallantry and Bronze Star (personal recognition) what do you have, punk?
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Nathaniel
Posted September 14, 2008 at 4:39 pm | Permalink
Phantom,
Congratulations on your awards. It doesn’t change the fact that you are an admitted doper.
Now days people like that are kicked out and receive an other than honorable discharge.
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I’m so glad that Nathan thinks that puffing on an officially unapproved substances is so much more important that performance in battle.
That of course is consistent with the whole “war on drugs” mentality.
BTW, Nate, you never answered his question.
Navy Achievment Medal
Iraqi Campaign Medal
Global War on Terror Medal
Good Conduct Medal
SMCR Medal
National Defense Medal
Humanitarian Aid Medal
Armed Services Reserve Mobilization Medal
Sea Service Deployment Ribbon
Naval Unit Citation Ribbon
4 Certificate of Commendations
2 Meritorious Masts
Phantom,
I have been in for 12 years. Marines are on average given a drug test at least once a month at random.
Drug use is not tolerated.
You are right though, if someone was doing it, they would never have told me.
I would have turned them in immediately.
There you have it–Obama’s team meticulously examined their VP choices.
McCain picked Palin because she’s a RepubliCON with a vagina.
An interesting irony. . .
‘Palin’s town used to bill victims for rape kits‘
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-10-rape-exams_N.htm
“… Congress in 2005 passed a law requiring states to provide rape exams free of charge or reimburse victims for the costs, says Knecht, whose group supported the provision.
…
The Senate version of the legislation that included the rape-exam provision was sponsored by Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, the Democratic vice presidential nominee. Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama was one of 58 co-sponsors; Republican presidential nominee John McCain was not.
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Nathaniel
Posted September 14, 2008 at 6:02 pm | Permalink
Phantom,
I have been in for 12 years. Marines are on average given a drug test at least once a month at random.
Drug use is not tolerated.
You are right though, if someone was doing it, they would never have told me.
I would have turned them in immediately.
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Todays Military…..
You can smoke a pole, but not a joint.
I wonder what Phantom did for his “cross of gallantry?”
Was it for rescuing the platoon’s stash or perhaps for something that was more real?
Tell us your war story Phantom.
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Kandisue
Posted September 14, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
I have a cousin who owns a large tire story in another state. I ask him one time recently about drug testing his employees and he said if he did that he wouldn’t have anybody working for him.
Said he has 45 long time employees and hires 450 others during the year to maintain a total of 95.
Said the work ethic has dropped dramaticly in the last 10 years.
Did say however that most of the turn over people would vote for obama assuming they weren’t drunk on election day. Said over all they weren’t very bright.
By the way any of you posters that are for obama ever work in tire store in another state?
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Great fiction. You should be able to sell it to some romance mag.
Yet more evidence of what was already factually-established, from cosmos’ link:
“”In retrospect, I would have asked the female working-mother mayor of that town why her police chief was against this,” said Croft, the former Anchorage state representative.
Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said in an e-mail that the governor “does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test.”
“Gov. Palin’s position could not be more clear,” she said. “To suggest otherwise is a deliberate misrepresentation of her commitment to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice.”
Comella would not answer other questions, including when Palin learned of Wasilla’s policy or whether she tried to change it. The campaign cited the governor’s record on domestic violence, including increasing funding for shelters.
Knowles criticized Palin to USA TODAY, and again Wednesday in a teleconference organized by Democrats. “It seems like one of those pieces of legislation that you can’t imagine it would ever have to be written,” he said.
Until the 2000 legislation, local law enforcement agencies in Alaska could pass along the cost of the exams, which are needed to obtain an attacker’s DNA evidence. Rape victims in several areas of Alaska, including the Matanuska-Susitna Valley where Wasilla is, complained about being charged for the tests, victims’ advocate Lauree Hugonin, of the Alaska Network on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault, told state House committees, records show.
P.S. How could Mayor Palin have fired Chief Stambaugh for his “lack of support” and keep Chief Fannon on after this?
Here’s some comic relief, courtesy of SNL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_FU5XcQnk
JMWalker
Posted September 14, 2008 at 7:18 pm | Permalink
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Kandisue
Posted September 14, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink
I have a cousin who owns a large tire story in another state. I ask him one time recently about drug testing his employees and he said if he did that he wouldn’t have anybody working for him.
Said he has 45 long time employees and hires 450 others during the year to maintain a total of 95.
Said the work ethic has dropped dramaticly in the last 10 years.
Did say however that most of the turn over people would vote for obama assuming they weren’t drunk on election day. Said over all they weren’t very bright.
By the way any of you posters that are for obama ever work in tire store in another state?
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Great fiction. You should be able to sell it to some romance mag.
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Like USA Today maybe or NY Times?
“I would have turned them in immediately.”
Yeah I woulda figured somebody like you for a little snitch Nathan.
I need to catch the special one of the news channels did on Palin. I’m told it shows her as quite the climber.
A snitch, huh?
No. I am a Staff Non-Commisioned Officer in the Marine Corps.
It is my job to not only present and embody the Corps Values but to also ensure that those I lead do as well.
There is a zero tolerance policy for drug use in the Marine Corps. It is very clear. Everyone knows this.
I will not turn a blind eye to someone who is violating the policy.
But it’s okay in the U.S. Marine Corp to steal music and video. . .
Ok the CNN program on Cruelle de Palin is on now.
Yikes she was an ugly kid.!
“cosmos_originally” –
The few. The proud. The situational ethically challenged.
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cosmos_originally
Posted September 14, 2008 at 7:55 pm | Permalink
But it’s okay in the U.S. Marine Corp to steal music and video. . .
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A perfect example of why one can’t say anything they ever did in real life as jerk-offs like cosmos keep bringing it up over and over and making judgments.
BTW, one of the main reasons for divorce and broken relationships is that the same things keep being brought up over and over and never resolved.
Progressive liberals never did anything wrong in their life right? If they did, they like to hide it.
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Kandisue
Posted September 14, 2008 at 7:27 pm | Permalink
JMWalker
Great fiction. You should be able to sell it to some romance mag.
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Like USA Today maybe or NY Times?
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No, like Faux news, or Frontpage mag.
Nathaniel posted September 14, 2008 at 7:37 pm
“It is my job to not only present and embody the Corps Values but to also ensure that those I lead do as well.”
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Nathaniel posted September 11, 2008 at 3:39 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/09/open-thread-911-2/#comment-422805
“I know it is “stealing” but I have about 100 GB of Music that I have from Iraq with another 500GB of movies and TV shows.”
I was a non-com too, made mine in less than 13 mo. service, they wanted me to go to ocs. I wasn’t interested.
The rest of you can easilly extrapolate from Nathan’s post,why there was so much fragging going on.. (No, I never fragged anybody, can’t say it didn’t cross my mind a couple of times).
As for my war stories, No one knows except my wife.
Phantom,
I am a Staff Non-Commisioned Officer.
There are usually only two reasons for why someone might “frag” their superior.
-They simply don’t like them
-Their superior is an idiot who will not only get them killed but has already gotten others killed.
There really isn’t much excuse for either. For simply not liking someone that takes a real coward though.
Glad to see where you stand on that issue.
A doper that advocates fragging someone.
What a real hero you are.
Cosmos,
Since it seems to be a rather large concern of yours, I will make you a deal.
Come by my home so we can meet and you can watch me delete my hard drive.
Otherwise? Get a life.
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Phantom
Posted September 14, 2008 at 8:47 pm | Permalink
I was a non-com too, made mine in less than 13 mo. service, they wanted me to go to ocs. I wasn’t interested.
The rest of you can easilly extrapolate from Nathan’s post,why there was so much fragging going on.. (No, I never fragged anybody, can’t say it didn’t cross my mind a couple of times).
As for my war stories, No one knows except my wife.
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So, what units did you serve in and where were you stationed?
Were you drafted or did you join up?
How long was your basic and infantry training?
That’s enough about me, I’ll save it for the Phantom thread.
Non-coms and officers that subordinates can not tolerate and quickly learn to hate, were/are the ones most likely to get fragged.
Or just not get help when they’re in a bind.
Nathaniel,
It’s not a “large concern” of mine. I just think it’s ironic (and pathetic) that you boast about being ethical, Christian, a Marine, etc — but you stole music and videos.
Cosmos,
I also speed when I dirve. Occasionally I jay walk too.
I’ll brainstorm and come up with a whole list of things for you Cosmos.
Phantom,
So tell us then, since you are such an expert on fragging.
Did you know anyone that fragged someone? What did you do when you found out?
Just exactly how do you know so much about it?
Nathan has special dispensation, divinely assigned.
He’s not a thief! Why he is an opportunist.
He’s not a liar! He just has his own superior knowledge of the truth.
He’s not a crashing bore and unpleasant to be around! Liberals are just mean people.
Nathaniel,
Don’t bother making a list.
Your theft of music and videos is sufficient proof.
For me, this thread is closed.
Lastly, you’re going to need to get Sinclair. Lastly, you’re in the position to test before you use Money. You don’t need to invest Money.