John McCain is no great orator, but his relaxed, unvarnished remarks from the GOP convention stood out for the way they set out the principles of the Republican Party, called Americans to service, appealed for bipartisanship and avoided partisan cheap shots, our editorial today says.
He was at his most moving when discussing his captivity during the Vietnam War and his most persuasive when discussing his commitment to national security. Overall, his speech was an effective and at times inspiring statement of his values and mission, though it left many questions about how another four years of GOP control of the White House could be the proper response to the past eight years.
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Many questions – yes.
There will be answers – yes.
And, there will be spin by the Leftist Libs – yes.
Perhaps the community organizer can raise some funds to finance a focus group?
(chortles)
Didn’t watch, sounds like he played his POW card again.
Did mccain mention Songbird?
Fox analyst Karl Rove called his speech “workmanlike” and “not all that great.”
“It was a strange speech, a strange week, a strange convention,” analyst Charles Krauthammer said on Fox, “and yet I think it was effective.”
USA Today says, “It’s almost as if the two contenders are running in different races. Democrats calculate that the presidential election will turn on bread-and-butter issues. To judge by their speeches at the convention, Republicans are convinced it will be defined by questions of character and trust.”
On ABC, George Stephanopoulos said, “Basically what you saw tonight was…McCain and his campaign saying fundamentally: This race is about the character and the qualifications of the two candidates. Barack Obama is saying it is fundamentally about…the desire of the country for change.”
The AP reports, “Unlike Obama’s speech a week ago,” McCain “offered no soaring oratory until his speech-ending summons to fight for the country’s future. And he seemed to receive a milder audience response than Palin had a night earlier, as well.”
For once, USA today nailed it:
USA Today says, “It’s almost as if the two contenders are running in different races. Democrats calculate that the presidential election will turn on bread-and-butter issues. To judge by their speeches at the convention, Republicans are convinced it will be defined by questions of character and trust.”
McCain was as inspiring as he could be. He came across as simultaneously proud of his record and aw-shucks humble.
What he didn’t address at all: the causes of this nation’s ills, and what he would specifically do about them, other than keep taxes low. That’s the solution to everything, over and over, keep your grubby paws off my wallet.
Tax cuts have their place, but they are not what government actually does, ya know. They are merely the fuel for the engine.
If tax cuts were the solution to every problem, we would need no government. We would simply close up shop. No government, no taxes. Problem solved.
P.S. More precisely, money is the fuel.
Didn’t Thompson make some statement about The dems. are having to retreat to the issues. Or something like that.
That says it all.
If you want a POW for president, there’s only one choice.
It sounded like the farewell speech of a distinguished former statesman.
And maybe it was.
I mean, it was a beat-and-a-half away from going into “Old soldiers never die….”
And frankly, a bit creepy on that level.
There were obvious lines McCoot expected applause and the Republic Party fanatics in the house fell silent. The twice-born hate him; they really hate him. As much as they were excited about the Stepford Governor the night before, they steadfastly weren’t excited about John S (for Senile) McCain (for Shrub’s 3rd term).
The Republic Party base wants the Moose-Dresser. Not much else.
he Republic Party base wants the Moose-Dresser. Not much else.
I know it’s an awful thing to say, but I wonder how many of them are hoping his next melanoma will finish the job.
If he wins, he’ll die in office of natural causes or RW unnatural causes.
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I read that McCain doesn’t use teleprompters well. That might account for the dead spots without applause. Then again, he really isn’t much of a speaker. I know, the truth hurts. :(
I admit I didn’t watch most of it, but I did watch some nearer the end and listened from another room. The crowd didn’t seem all that excited until nearer the end. (I suspect they use applause signs.) The one thing I did notice when I was watching was that McCain blinks. A LOT. Sometimes it’s so much and so rapid that he’s almost batting his eyes/eyelids. It’s said that’s the sign of someone lying, but I can’t believe he was lying THAT much. :)
Someone on a blog (not here) mentioned Code Pink and numerous anti-conservative signs throughout the not-even-full arena. Did anyone else notice them?
I’ll pass on the 72 yr. old gladiator, fighting for me!
Someone on a blog (not here) mentioned Code Pink and numerous anti-conservative signs throughout the not-even-full arena. Did anyone else notice them?
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How could anyone miss that elephantine protester in the pink dress or the black, garbage bag sign hoisted unless they were out of the room, picking their nose or not watching the convention on CSPAN.
:D
There is a rumor that varous members of the press corps handed out the passes that the protestors used.
If this is true?
They should be called on it.
The press should NOT create the news, they should report on it.
The protestors might actually hurt the Dems in Minnesota.
That would be great!
They stopped traffic, they slashed tires, they started fires and they broke windows.
Gosh, those anti-Republican types are truly “mainstream” aren’t they?
Krauthammer and Rove had a difficult time standing up without shifting around quite a bit, at least for them anyway, after hearing (Ann Coulter) Palin’s speech. They did not have that problem after McCain’s.
Speaking only from a conversation with my daughter living in St. Paul, the disgust is with the actions of the police and not the protestors in general (although the breaking of windows, which is all we discussed in that regard, did alienate her and others).
BTW, Franklin, she and those with whom she spoke (hearsay alert) were cognizant that the protestors were not necessarily members of the Democratic Party.
Franklin
Posted September 5, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink
The protestors might actually hurt the Dems in Minnesota.
That would be great!
They stopped traffic, they slashed tires, they started fires and they broke windows.
Gosh, those anti-Republican types are truly “mainstream” aren’t they?
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Franklin if I were a resident in Minnesota I would be very upset with the police who forced this kind of behavior from peace loving citizens.
Is this the right time to mention that three journalists were arrested simply for being there, two of them brutalized? Captured on camera (the first being Nicole Salazar’s own camera). Witnesses said she was pinned in-between the advancing cops and parked cars, hence the question: “Where are we supposed to go?”
Warning: this is disturbing. “Press! Press!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d9wmqO2Khw
Her boss, the nationally-known host of the “Democracy Now!” program, got word of this, and rushed out of the Xcel Center to find out what had happened.
This was the result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ&feature=related
GOP Puts Faith In Stories, Old And New
SAINT PAUL, MINN. — This week’s Republican National Convention was dominated by one personality and one personal story. That in itself is not unusual. But in this case, the personality and the personal story did not both belong to the same person.
If you watched any of the convention, you know the story in question was John McCain’s ordeal in a prisoner of war camp in North Vietnam 40 years ago. Other elements of his life, including his 26 years in Congress and his plucky bids for the presidency in 2000 and 2008, were mentioned during the course of the week. But the focus always came back to those wrenching years of captivity.
Some thought the compelling theme was being emphasized early and often so that the candidate himself could be spared the memory in his own remarks on the final night. But not so.
But if that story is set aside, the dominating presence at this convention was not McCain but the woman he chose as his running mate, Sarah Palin. Just a week earlier, the 44-year-old governor of Alaska was unknown to most people in the country and indeed to most participants in this convention. Yet by midweek she had ascended to something like the status of an American Joan of Arc.
Palin had a far more natural and kinetic connection to the activists who populated the convention floor than McCain has ever had. She was with them on abortion (favoring a ban even in cases of rape and incest), gay marriage, sex education, guns and a host of other issues. The simple act of choosing her did more to endear McCain to the base of social conservatives than anything he had ever done.
Palin at this point is primarily an asset for McCain, having brought life to his convention and helped him unite his party. But she is also a threat to upstage him, as she surely did here in St. Paul. This is partly because she is both a natural media magnet and a natural media target. The two halves of the ticket scarcely dare to campaign separately for fear that the No. 2 will prove a greater draw than the No. 1.
It may be awkward to have a man so little loved by the conservative movement entrusted with the party’s ultimate mission: winning and holding the White House. And it is awkward to have his fate in the hands of someone so little known, even to him, until last week.
But if that is the latest price McCain finds he must pay to pursue his goal, well, as he likes to say, he’s been through far worse.
http://www.npr.org/watchingwashington/index.html
P.S. Amy Goodman (the boss) was charged with obstructing legal process. The two journalists were charged with felony riot–for daring to film what was happening.
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Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 1:53 pm | Permalink
Is this the right time to mention that three journalists were arrested simply for being there, two of them brutalized? Captured on camera (the first being Nicole Salazar’s own camera). Witnesses said she was pinned in-between the advancing cops and parked cars, hence the question: “Where are we supposed to go?”
Warning: this is disturbing. “Press! Press!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d9wmqO2Khw
Her boss, the nationally-known host of the “Democracy Now!” program, got word of this, and rushed out of the Xcel Center to find out what had happened.
This was the result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ&feature=related
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What a drama queen!
All that screaming and she looked healthy to me.
Rage,
Did you read the comments at your second link? That was some scary stuff! Those are Americans? Those are people who live among us?
All that screaming and she looked healthy to me.
Presumably you think it’s okay for riot cops to crush journalists’ faces into the pavement and stomp on their backs, for no apparent reason.
Thanks for that insight.
Rage,
Did you read the comments at your second link? That was some scary stuff! Those are Americans? Those are people who live among us?
Not the most recent, no. But I can already guess: the usual blahblah that presumes that anyone who was there was part of the lib-terro-anarcho movement to rape babes or something, and should be shot on sight.
Was I close?
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Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
All that screaming and she looked healthy to me.
Presumably you think it’s okay for riot cops to crush journalists’ faces into the pavement and stomp on their backs, for no apparent reason.
Thanks for that insight.
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Assumptions?
I didn’t see any faces crushed into pavement?
I saw a jiggling camera and the supposed screams of the drama queen.
The only First Aid she looks to be in need of is a bath. LOL.
I saw a jiggling camera and the supposed screams of the drama queen.
Occam’s razor and numerous witnesses, moron. It’s not like this happened in a deserted alley.
And you’re typically avoiding the point: is Chinese-style repression of journalists okay with you?
Libtards are unable to argue the One should be president because he is more experienced or more qualified than John McCain.
Therefore they argue, the One should be president because he is more experienced and more qualified than Sarah Palin.
The simple fact of the matter, unfortunately for the Libtards, they lose that arguement.
And you’re typically avoiding the point: is Chinese-style repression of journalists okay with you?
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You must be joking?
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Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
I saw a jiggling camera and the supposed screams of the drama queen.
Occam’s razor and numerous witnesses, moron. It’s not like this happened in a deserted alley.
And you’re typically avoiding the point: is Chinese-style repression of journalists okay with you?
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You’re quote:
Witnesses said she was pinned in-between the advancing cops and parked cars, hence the question: “Where are we supposed to go?”
I saw nothing where you wrote that “cops to crush journalists’ faces into the pavement and stomp on their backs, for no apparent reason” appeared in your representation of the event.
Was this some ad lib declarations or were you doing your own ‘drama queen’ act? :D
you’re = your
Regular
Posted September 5, 2008 at 2:17 pm | Permalink
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Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
is Chinese-style repression of journalists okay with you?
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I didn’t see any body bags.
Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
is Chinese-style repression of journalists okay with you?
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I didn’t see anyone under 4′-6″ in the video.
What I don’t understand is, given the largest growth of our government in US history (BLOAT), increasing the Nation Debt by a record setting 40% (GLUTTONY), and not vetoing anything for over 7 years (STUPIDITY), why would anyone in their right mind vote for more of the same?
I have yet to hear how the deficit run-up is to be paid.
KFG- What is the First Rule of Holes??
Excuse me, mr president, there are 300 journalist and protesters on the lawn sir….
Um..errr…uhhh…present….
mr. president?
Um..errr…uhhh..I’m signing an executive order condeming all protesters…………………
Excuse me, mr president, they’re stll there…
Um..errr…uhhh..I’m signing an executive order, an order that expresses the sense that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring all protesters……………………
Excuse me, mr president, they’re stll there…
Um..errr…uhhh..present…
mr. president?
Um..errr…uhhh.. oh hell, get the UN on the line……
Anti- I didn’t see anyone under 4?-6? in the video.
lmfao, that’ll get it going…
Busted!
Check out the photo shopped original photo of the gal in the bathing suit holding a rifle.
http://www.foxnews.com/
More here in the article:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/05/top-7-myths-lies-and-untruths-about-sarah-palin/
More at Snopes.com
More at Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/palin.asp
http://www.ifex.org/en/content/view/full/96701/
Transcripts:
Nicole’s camera captured her arrest and assault by the officers.
NICOLE SALAZAR: Watch out! Watch out! Press!
POLICE OFFICER: Get out of here! Move!
NICOLE SALAZAR: Where are we supposed to go? Where are we supposed to go?
POLICE OFFICER: Get out of here!
NICOLE SALAZAR: Dude, I can’t see! Ow! Press! Press! Press!
POLICE OFFICER: Get down! Get down on your face! On your face!
NICOLE SALAZAR: I’m on my face!
POLICE OFFICER: Get down on your face!
NICOLE SALAZAR: Ow! Press! Press!
AMY GOODMAN: Shortly after, I arrived and was arrested while questioning the officers about Sharif and Nicole’s arrest.
DENIS MOYNIHAN: Release the accredited journalists!
AMY GOODMAN: Where’s the reporters? Sir?
POLICE OFFICER: Ma’am, get back to the sidewalk.
DENIS MOYNIHAN: Release the accredited journalists now!
AMY GOODMAN: Sir, just one second. I was just running from the convention floor.
DENIS MOYNIHAN: You are violating my constitutional rights. You are violating their constitutional rights.
POLICE OFFICER: Sidewalk now!
AMY GOODMAN: Sir, I want to talk to your superior—
POLICE OFFICER: Arrest her?
AMY GOODMAN: Do not arrest me!
POLICE OFFICER: You’re under arrest.
POLICE OFFICER: Hold it right there. You’re under arrest. Stay right there. Back up. Back up.
POLICE OFFICER: Everybody, you cross this line, you’ll be under arrest, so don’t do it.
CROWD: Let her go!
DENIS MOYNIHAN: Amy, we are going to get you out of here very soon.
AMY GOODMAN: This is outrageous.
DENIS MOYNIHAN: Yes, we have people working on it.
AMY GOODMAN: Nicole has a bloody nose. And I think that Sergeant McKinty said he—they won’t put me on [inaudible] if Nicole’s not there.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/2/amy_goodman_two_democracy_now_producers
I’m a bit curious how the police can be blaimed for the violent and destructive actions of rioters and anarchists. They have attacked private property as well as the physical welfare of the delegates trying to gain access to the convention.
Only in the upside down world where what is good for society (law abiding, peaceful citizenry competing with ideas) is bad and what is bad for society (violence and destruction) is somehow good can one defend these protestors and condemn the police actions to contain them.
Let’s go over a brief review of how the platform espoused by the Democratic party shows that they are living in an upside down world (apart from the rest of us).
1. We’ll protest against violence by attacking people in wheelchairs and slashing tires or people we disagree with.
1. We’ll lower gasoline prices by continuing a ban on offshore drilling.
2. We’ll lower energy prices and reduce CO2 emissions by making it difficult for new CO2 free nuclear power plants and clean coal power plants to be built.
2. We’ll fix the economy and bring back jobs by raising taxes on domestic businesses and energy companies.
3. We’ll lower unemployment by lengthening the time for unemployment benefits.
4. We’ll protect freedom by denying the right to life for unborn children and pretending that 9-11 was our own fault.
5. We’ll lecture Fathers on being responsible for their children by making abortion optional and also by depriving men of any choice on the matter.
6. We’ll support a strong America by advocating military defeat for political gain.
7. We’ll improve education by forcing students from the suburbs (white and black) to go to underperforming inner city public schools.
8. We’ll run a campaign on bringing the country together by having Obama do nothing but throw barbs against McCain during his nomination speech (Then chastizing VP nominee Palin for doing the same against them).
Yeah, this country IS divided. If you are not biased towards one side or the other, you just do not care.
However, caring does not mean that your sacrifice your core beliefs in a strong, free and non-violent America. Obviously, these “anti-war” protesters have no such core beliefs.
Wake me when it’s over
Now that was one bad convention speech
On my way from the convention hall in St Paul to the press filing room, I walked past an information booth. I was definitely in need of some information. I was tempted to ask the two forlorn women staffing it: “What was John McCain intending to accomplish with that speech?”
Upon reflection, I think maybe I’ve got it. Given that hating on the media has been such an incessant theme of this convention, I now suspect that the speech was intentionally awful, in order that it generate negative reviews in the press the better to fire up the base against the press. I really can’t think of another explanation.
The crowd. It was weird. A protestor got into the hall and disrupted the speech a bit at first. The crowd kept shouting the protestor down by chanting, ever more loudly, “USA! USA!” The chant had a martial and even nasty quality to it and created a strange vibe in the hall. But more than that, the chanters drowned out their own candidate. He had to plead with them for quiet at one point.
At other points, the audience sort of forgot they were supposed to cheer for a few seconds before they remembered and lugubriously put their hands together. As McCain finished up, the applause drowned out the words, but not because the crowd had been driven to an ecstatic frenzy. They seemed to be saying, “Thank God he’s done!”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2008/sep/05/johnmccain.republicans2008
Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 2:34 pm
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You still fail with your accusation about face been crushed into the pavement.
And who da fark says, “Release the accredited journalists now!” without it being a rehearsed event?
Weak rage, really really weak.
I’m a bit curious how the police can be blaimed for the violent and destructive actions of rioters and anarchists.
What about police who assault and arrest journalists?
Man, the libs must be terrified of Palin…spreading false pictures in some feeble attempt to discredit her.
Very sad. But, based on the “quality” of some of the comments here–especially from ‘beber’, I guess low level trash is to be expected.
McCain: “vote for me, and I’ll reform Washington by implementing all of George Bush’s policies.”
Not a great speech. Quite muddled as to what it was trying to accomplish.
No surprise to see the would-be blog Fascists defending the pre-emptive police state infiltration, surveillance, detention, and arrest of peaceful Americans prior to the start of the convention.
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CF2K
Posted September 5, 2008 at 2:44 pm | Permalink
McCain: “vote for me, and I’ll reform Washington by implementing all of George Bush’s policies.”
Not a great speech. Quite muddled as to what it was trying to accomplish.
No surprise to see the would-be blog Fascists defending the pre-emptive police state infiltration, surveillance, detention, and arrest of peaceful Americans prior to the start of the convention.
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Evidently, the reporters crossed a picket line that was posted not to be crossed.
There is no accounting for being stupid and in this case, purposefully and knowingly in violation of the law.
Thanks for the post CF2K aka Mousy Tongue!
(presses the flush lever on the toilet to dispose of the post in the proper method)
arrest of peaceful Americans prior to the start of the convention.
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By the looks of that woman(?) in the video, I don’t think she has had a peaceful day in her life.
800 arrested at RNC, is this the protest and disruption rush was calling for?
the Rude Pundit. CF2K
sad, pathetic, little men….
Evidently, the reporters crossed a picket line that was posted not to be crossed.
Picket line? LOL! What were they picketing?
If you’ve ever seen unedited videos of police tactics in such situations, the “line” regularly moves. And a brief reminder:
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Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html
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Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
Evidently, the reporters crossed a picket line that was posted not to be crossed.
Picket line? LOL! What were they picketing?
If you’ve ever seen unedited videos of police tactics in such situations, the “line” regularly moves. And a brief reminder:
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Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html
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Cry!
Whine!
Picket line as in the original use of the words.
Grab a dictionary partner and stop using your head a door stop.
“Excuse me, mr president, there are 300 journalist and protesters on the lawn sir….
No Problem, Sarah get the rifles!
By the looks of that woman(?) in the video, I don’t think she has had a peaceful day in her life.
Actually, agree or disagree, much of her career in journalism has been devoted to exploring issues of peace and war.
Democracy Now! is a national, daily, independent, award-winning news program hosted by journalists Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez. Pioneering the largest public media collaboration in the U.S., Democracy Now! is broadcast on Pacifica, NPR, community, and college radio stations; on public access, PBS, satellite television (DISH network: Free Speech TV ch. 9415 and Link TV ch. 9410; DIRECTV: Link TV ch. 375); and on the internet. DN!’s podcast is one of the most popular on the web.
Democracy Now!’s War and Peace Report provides our audience with access to people and perspectives rarely heard in the U.S.corporate-sponsored media, including independent and international journalists, ordinary people from around the world who are directly affected by U.S. foreign policy, grassroots leaders and peace activists, artists, academics and independent analysts. In addition, Democracy Now! hosts real debates–debates between people who substantially disagree, such as between the White House or the Pentagon spokespeople on the one hand, and grassroots activists on the other.
http://www.democracynow.org/about
The program is available on hundreds of radio stations around the country, including Tucson’s own KXCI-FM.
Phantom
Posted September 5, 2008 at 3:04 pm | Permalink
“Excuse me, mr president, there are 300 journalist and protesters on the lawn sir….
No Problem, Sarah get the rifles!
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YES!!!
P.S. Amy Goodman’s on-air style is very low-key and calm.
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Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 3:07 pm | Permalink
P.S. Amy Goodman’s on-air style is very low-key and calm.
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She’s not on stage in the public view in an obvious rehearsed ‘drama queen’ episode.
Problem:
Anti_moose will not stop “cut and paste” and then tries to own the argument.
the One solution:
1. Write an executive order condemning all “cut and paste” bloggers.
2. Write an executive order commemorating his first executive order.
3. Write an executive order that expresses the sense that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring bloggers. (blogroes?)
She’s not on stage in the public view in an obvious rehearsed ‘drama queen’ episode.
Other than saying “this is outrageous” (and it was), how was she a “drama queen.”?
Oh, get it: since you don’t give two shits about journalists getting arrested for no reason, you think Nicole Salazar and Amy Goodman were the same person, even though my post clearly laid out the chronology of the two videos.
Pay attention nest time, fool.
CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied
Friday, September 5, 2008 9:57 AM
By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size
“John McCain and Barack Obama are now in a dead heat in the race for the White House, with each candidate garnering 42 percent of the vote, according to the latest CBS News poll.
That’s a significant change from a CBS poll last weekend, which showed the Obama-Biden ticket ahead of McCain-Palin by a margin of 48 percent to 40 percent.
The new poll was conducted from Monday through Wednesday, before McCain’s Thursday night speech at the Republican convention. But the number of McCain supporters who say they are enthusiastic about their candidate rose from 25 percent last weekend to 35 percent in the new poll.
Conversely, the number of Obama supporters who say they are enthusiastic about their candidate plunged from 67 percent to 55 percent.”
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/cbs_poll_mccain_obama/2008/09/05/128028.html?s=al&promo_code=696A-1
Have a relaxing weekend Obama Libs!
P.S. Nicole Salazar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntjWhBZqTRM
“biased1″ contribute –
“(blogroes?)”
Subtle.
Really subtle, “biased1.”
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Rage
Posted September 5, 2008 at 3:15 pm | Permalink
She’s not on stage in the public view in an obvious rehearsed ‘drama queen’ episode.
Other than saying “this is outrageous” (and it was), how was she a “drama queen.”?
Oh, get it: since you don’t give two shits about journalists getting arrested for no reason, you think Nicole Salazar and Amy Goodman were the same person, even though my post clearly laid out the chronology of the two videos.
Pay attention nest time, fool.
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No, I’ll tell you what I think, if you’ll try for a moment trying to impose what you think “I think” for a moment. :D
I think the whole event was purposely planned and executed by the reporter(s).
I think the screams were exaggerated beyond what would be normally expected in such an event.
I think you have exploded this insignificant event of some very obvious Leftist Liberal reporters who had an agenda to attempt to entrap police officers into some sort of ‘brutality’ situation so they could gain national attention for personal and political gain.
If I was a Judge, I’d put them in contempt the first time they tried to weasel out of the question they deliberately crossed the police picket line when they knew it was in violation of a police order.
In case you don’t get it, a police person and its designated indications (picket line) means that the police are in charge. In charge means that under the law, the police have the authority and the duty to detain, apprehend and arrest said individuals challenging the charge of the police.
My advice, get over it. It’s nothing.
I like to do the tube steak boogie! :D
No, I’ll tell you what I think, if you’ll try for a moment stop trying to impose what you think “I think” for a moment.
So what’s your point, Rage?
A couple of reporters got roughed up. Shame on the police dept.
“and arrest of peaceful Americans prior to the start of the convention.”
In CF2K’s upside down world, self described anarchists are peaceful Americans. Yeeeeeeahahh.
Anarchist’s website inciting other anarchists to join them in welcoming the RNC to St Paul is found here:
http://www.nornc.org/
an·ar·chy 1 a: absence of government b: a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c: a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government.
Let’s see the mentality of the upside down Democrats here who defend anarchists. The logic goes like this:
We’ll achieve freedom from goverment by breaking laws by the government protecting private property and physical safety. Then we’ll sit in jail and rail against the government for being in extistence. Ignoring that fact that if they did not destroy private property or threaten physical safety, the police would not have to exercise brute force to restrain them.
Upside down
anarchy leads to tyranny (the exact opposite of anarchists’ intention).
A couple of reporters got roughed up. Shame on the police dept.
And arrested. And jailed. And charged.
Amy Goodman was charged with “obstructing legal process” for what you just saw. Ms. Salazar and her colleague were charged with “conspiracy to riot” or something like that. A felony.
A felony. For, presumably, standing in the wrong place and the wrong time, with cameras and, apparenrly, not getting out of the way of the advancing squad quickly enough.
Is that America?
And also a near-total blackout in the corporate media (CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, Fox). Not even tiny blurbs.
Is that America?
Yeah Rage,
Ya break the law with the intent to disrupt you pay the price. I hope Salazar, and her band of domestic terrorists, carries felony charges on their record….that should slow them down and limit future job potential.
Yeah Rage,
Ya break the law with the intent to disrupt you pay the price. I hope Salazar, and her band of domestic terrorists, carries felony charges on their record….that should slow them down and limit future job potential.
Keep it up! People like you prove my point with every keystroke.
…plays the first few bars of “Dueling Banjos” for Amy Goodman for her stay in jail. :D
“Boxlock” offers –
“Ya break the law with the intent to disrupt you pay the price.”
Once again, irony is so… ironic.
As I type the Discovery Channel is airing a really well-balanced account of Randy Weaver and the Ruby Ridge affair.
Notable is that the governmental abuses and over-reaction (and this show covers the rest of it along with Weaver’s kookiness), they don’t mention that Ruby Ridge was the action of George Herbert Walker Bush’s “justice” department.
“Ya break the law…you pay the price.”
Except when “Boxlock” doesn’t agree.
Except when “Boxlock” doesn’t agree. . . .
with the presumed politics of said persons, whether or not there is the tiniest evidence of wrongdoing.
Franklin if I were a resident in Minnesota I would be very upset with the police who forced this kind of behavior from peace loving citizens.
Riiiiight. They must be a member of that well known “narco-syndicalist commune”
“Now you see the violence inherent in the system!!!! Help, help, I’m being repressed. ”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76WQzVJ434
You can thank me later . . . :-)
John McCain and Barack Obama are now in a dead heat in the race for the White House, with each candidate garnering 42 percent of the vote, according to the latest CBS News poll.
CBS is the only poll in which there’s a tie. In all the rest on realclearpolitics.com, Obama is still leading.
But let’s just all focus on CBS and forget the rest.
Predestined
Posted September 5, 2008 at 5:44 pm | Permalink
John McCain and Barack Obama are now in a dead heat in the race for the White House, with each candidate garnering 42 percent of the vote, according to the latest CBS News poll.
CBS is the only poll in which there’s a tie. In all the rest on realclearpolitics.com, Obama is still leading.
But let’s just all focus on CBS and forget the rest.
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You mean the one’s that had Obama up a combined +7 and are down to +2.6?
Ultimately the polls are irrelevant. Race is coming down to 2-3 states.
‘Johnny-come-lying
McCain’s 10 energy lies top Palin’s four‘
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/9/5/82721/82943
See also
‘Lies, damned lies, and energy politics
In her big speech, Palin repeats the GOP’s big energy lie — plus three other energy lies‘
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/9/4/122931/0114
Let’s see if I understand this “logic”. Two reporters were arrested by the local police, and it is the ‘fault’ of the people attending a convention?
Does anyone else have problems with that connection? Did the people inside the convention order the police to arrest innocent people? Are police actions dictated by convention goers?
How is this the fault of anyone except those who allegedly broke the law??????
Gen. Petraeus recommnends not drawing down troops in Iraq, and sending them to Afghanistan until Jan., I thing they are trying to keep a lid on Iraq, until after the elections. Playing politics.
Meanwhile we’re losing Afghan tribal allies in Afghanistan:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_on_re_as/angry_afghans_3
McCain’s speech most watched in party convention history.
Your predictions were just slightly off. You know who you are, so I won’t name names, OK Phantom?
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Breaking: McCain beats Obama by 500,000
John McCain has won the ratings race.
The Republican nominee beat Democratic challenger Barack Obama’s record-setting convention speech viewership by 500,000.
McCain’s address at the Republican National Convention on Thursday night was seen by about 38.9 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. Obama received 38.4 million.
That means McCain’s speech is now the most-watched in convention history — 41% higher than President Bush’s acceptance speech four years ago, and 1% higher than Obama’s address last week.
Who cares what a candidate says during their acceptance speech?
This one comes to mind:
“And I’m the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he’ll raise them as a last resort, or a third resort. But when a politician talks like that, you know that’s one resort he’ll be checking into. My opponent, my opponent won’t rule out raising taxes. But I will. And the Congress will push me to raise taxes and I’ll say no. And they’ll push, and I’ll say no, and they’ll push again, and I’ll say, to them, ‘Read my lips: no new taxes.’”
Clinton probably said equally stupid things he had to reverse, too. It is not a party specific thing, the speeches are to energize their supporters, not to communicate hard and fast truths.
Sorry to bust anyone’s bubble if they were banking on something one of hte current candidates promised in their acceptance speeches coming true
“Phantom
Posted September 5, 2008 at 6:28 pm | Permalink
Gen. Petraeus recommnends not drawing down troops in Iraq, and sending them to Afghanistan until Jan., I thing they are trying to keep a lid on Iraq, until after the elections. Playing politics”
Hey can’t blame a guy for wanting to get another star someday…
That don’t happen without kissing some ass.
“McCain’s address at the Republican National Convention on Thursday night was seen by about 38.9 million viewers”
IF every single one of those viewers votes for McCain?
(And I was one of those viewers)
McCain loses the election in a landslide.
“Barack Obama now says he is open to offshore oil drilling. So, apparently, when he promised change, he was talking about his mind.”
– Jay Leno
“After a quick meet-and-greet with King Abdullah, Obama was off to Israel , where he made a quick stop at the manger in Bethlehem where he was born.”
– Jon Stewart, on Barack Obama’s Middle East trip
“Today Barack Obama made history by being the first man to travel in a plane propelled by the media’s flash photography.”
- Stephen Colbert
“Obama said he wanted to visit Iraq and Afghanistan because he wanted to see an area overrun by violent extremists. So it sounds like he already misses his old church.”
– Leno
“Joe Biden is Barack Obama’s running mate. Yeah, nothing says change like a guy who’s been in the Senate for 35 years.”
– David Letterman
I wasn’t aware tv sets would be turned on for the nfl game. Bet at least 1% left it on, while getting ready for bed, or eating, or going to the rest room.
Not impressed.
Nice try at spin there, phantom. Can’t accept the fact that your predictions were waaay off base? Your forecasts were that Obama would have a much larger audience than McCain’s acceptance speech.
So,…now you say it is televisions that were left on? Admit it…you were wrong.
How can they count the number of viewers?
I know how Neilson works, but that only gives an overview, not a definite count. Are they now monitoring my TV?
Sorry, but I only tuned in because a friend called and asked why people blink a lot. I told her it’s a sign of lying. She said McCain was blinking like crazy. I checked. He was.
“I only tuned in because a friend called and asked why people blink a lot. I told her it’s a sign of lying. She said McCain was blinking like crazy. I checked. He was.”
No simpleton, it is usually because their eyes are dry. Dry, as in if the ventilation systems are directing air towards the the speakers position on the stage, which usually is the design.
As usual, the Repukes only tell half the story.
That’s why they’re called “half-truths.”
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But wait.
If you add in PBS — which is tracked by Nielsen as meter-market projections, but not counted among its regular national ratings sample — Obama beat McCain.
PBS estimated that 2.7 million viewers tuned in last night [for McCain] and 3.5 million watched Obama. So if you include those viewers, Obama wins.
http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/09/mccain-rating-1.html
I was surprised when McCain said “I am indebted to my wife Cindy” . . . reminding us all of her 100 million dollar trust fund.
“She knows how to make me happy.” Heh, yeah, John. She has 100 million ways to make you happy.
Monkeyspunk
Posted September 5, 2008 at 3:23 pm | Permalink
I like to do the tube steak boogie!
*****
There are still some $500 tickets available for the ZZ Top concert in Wichita, soon upcomimg… :)
ZZ Top – the same band my sister told me were appearing not long ago at the KS state fair. Hmmm…
should have been “appeared, not long ago at the KS state fair”.
Boxlock
Posted September 5, 2008 at 10:53 pm | Permalink
” “I only tuned in because a friend called and asked why people blink a lot. I told her it’s a sign of lying. She said McCain was blinking like crazy. I checked. He was.”
No simpleton, it is usually because their eyes are dry. Dry, as in if the ventilation systems are directing air towards the the speakers position on the stage, which usually is the design.”
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‘Johnny-come-lying
McCain’s 10 energy lies top Palin’s four‘
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/9/5/82721/82943
Well, gee, I guess I was wrong? Or was I?
Nonverbal Signs of Lying
Essentially, people think that signs of deception should “leak” out through nonverbal behavior, or our body language, which is hard to completely control (see, Ekman and Friesen).
So what does the research reveal?
When lying people are more likely to:
-offer shorter responses
-make more speech errors – more um’s, er’s ah’s…
-blink more
-fidget more
http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/detecting_deceit/public/nonverbal_cues.html
You mean the one’s that had Obama up a combined +7 and are down to +2.6?
Did you notice that until the RNC, McCain hadn’t gained for a while?
Now this is a man and woman I will vote for:
http://www.johnmccain.com/about/governorpalin.htm
McCain Palin 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Predestined Posted September 6, 2008 at 1:55 am
“When lying people are more likely to:
-offer shorter responses
-make more speech errors – more um’s, er’s ah’s…
-blink more
-fidget more”
Oh my gosh….you mean like Obama when he doesn’t have his teleprompter?
Fact Check weighs in on McCain’s speech:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html
And once again, for contrasts sake, the Fact Check analysis of Obama’s speech:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html
And everyone remember that the Republican candidate for president IS John McCain, and not Sarah Palin, right?
When it comes to governing styles (ie, governing by gut instinct),
Sarah Palin = George W Bush
Are you happy with the overall direction of the USA under the leadership of George W Bush? If so, then you’ll LOVE Sarah Palin!