Gov. Kathleen Sebelius is taking heat from some Republicans for suggesting that there has been some racial “code language” during the presidential campaign, and that race “may be a factor for some people.” Christian Morgan, the executive director of the Kansas GOP, responded that Sebelius was “off her rocker” and was “playing one of the most tired and divisive political games ever.” But former GOP House Majority Leader Dick Armey recently told USA Today that the race issue is very real and is everywhere: “There’s an awful lot of people in America, bless their heart, who simply are not emotionally prepared to vote for a black man,” he said.
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“Argue with your neighbor, get in their faces”
Is the race issue real?
Just for democrat voters.
“Majority Leader Dick Armey recently told USA Today that the race issue is very real and is everywhere: ‘There’s an awful lot of people in America, bless their heart, who simply are not emotionally prepared to vote for a black man,’ he said.”
“bless their hearts”??? Hey, Dick (you’re appropriately named, at least) what do you think about Lynching?
“may be a factor for some people.”
Perhaps the 90-95% of black people who will vote for him?
Blackman?
I don’t know about that, he looks kind of brownish to me.
Better to have black skin then to have a black heart.
When 90% of the blacks are going to vote for him I say race is an issue. A big issue.
It is the blacks that are really the racists.
But the liberal media continually says just the opposite.
But then they have an agenda of hate towards America.
Barry’s pastor – US of KKKA spewing white hatred Sunday after Sunday
- yet obama wasn’t aware of it.
Kandisue
Posted September 18, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
When 90% of the blacks are going to vote for him I say race is an issue. A big issue
And when women are going to vote for Palin simply because she is a woman, that is also a form of racism – based on sex. Racism is one form of discrimination and discrimination comes in all shapes, sizes and colors.
BTW,I’m still praying for you.
And when women are going to vote for Palin simply because she is a woman, that is also a form of racism.
========
No, that is not racism it is sexism. Has nothing to do with race.
Steven,
I see you know “southern speak”. For those who aren’t aware, the use of “Bless their/his/her heart” is always said to soften cattiness or meanness.
“Little Susie has such big ears, bless her heart…”
But bless Dick Armey’s heart for seeing there is a problem.
Its not just that he’s a blackman, but he’s a blackman smarter than the average white guy, and many of them wouldn’t vote for an intelligent black.
They prefer a run of the mill white woman.
Obviously! Judging from the PoV of some posters already who, while claiming the race issue doesn’t exist, are loudly braying that racism is alive and well among minorities. Racism isn’t just about the colour of one’s skin. It’s also about different cultures and ethnicity, even within seemingly monochromatic population. For once, can one tell in a glance a Swede and a Finn in Minnesota? Or the fact that Obama may not have the roots in the black slavery in the Antebellum South, which may raise concern to some African-Americans? Or that some churches claim that dark skin is the “Mark of Cain”?
Geez.
What percentage of African-American voters would vote for any Democratic Party candidate over the party of George WMD Bush?
The “Blacks are Racists” canard is a sewage-level attempt to flip the race card.
Geez,
What percentage of Republicans are going to vote for a Liberal Democrat?
If race is an issue, it is with the democrats not republican voters.
Even Jesus said that in the final days “nation would rise against nation” [Matthew 24] – the word for nation in the bible is the greek word ‘ethnos’ we get ethnic – truely a sign of the times – other than that – it’s a nice day outside – peace/flowers/love-n-beads
Pre,
You got it backwards, you have to say “Bless her heart” first, then the meaness comes. How can anyone think you are mean just after you “Blessed her heart”?
They prefer a run of the mill white woman.
Didn’t know there was another white woman running for president.
The funny thing about all this to me is with his background, Obama has no idea of the African-American experience.
His father was from Africa. Not a decendent of slaves in America. His Mother was white. Raised by her and her parents (white people) in Hawaii (not sure how many Jim Crow laws EVER existed there) and a foreign country.
He can’t possibly relate to the African-American struggle in this country any more than I can. But yet the black community rally’s around him as one of their own.
Why? Because of the color of his skin.
Silly responses.
If all blacks voted for Obama he still can’t win.
This a referendum on Republican values running the Federal Government and nothing else.
You vote to continue GOP stranglehold on the White House or allow the Democrats turn.
Small minded people tease and tweek about race while country financially crashes. I thought it was about money in America now.
Polls talk to 1,000 people in a 300,000 population and its supposed to be a trend. Poll creator doesn’t have bent opinions themselves? Poll from Fox news? Some hate the New York times poll.
McCain helped Ohio lose 10,000 jobs, isn’t that real and a concern? His help negatively affected a large community and the shipping industry in Ohio today. McCain’s Federal legislative help from 5 years ago was a bad deal. It was shortsighted and had lobbyist cranks involved.
One key lobbyist crank from that deal now works for McCain.
When its white executives crashing corporations on Wall Street, creating fraud on consumers, its Obama’s black skin a concern.
Some of you have peanuts for brains.
Obama is a fraud, nothing but a race-hustling jerk no better than Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or Jeremiah Wright.
Obama is currently running Spanish language advertising trying to “link” Senator John McCain, a champion of “comprehensive immigration reform” to Rush Limaugh, who attacked McCain on this issue.
Obama is a liar.
Limbaugh stated the MEXICAN law, the way Mexico treats immigrants, and said that was the law that Limbaugh wanted, in the United States.
Obama did NOT insult Mexicans.
Obama did NOT make clear that Limbaugh was exposing the current law, in Mexico!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/from-the-fact-1.html
“The second quote is totally unfair. In 2006, Limbaugh was mocking Mexican law, and he wrote:
“Everybody’s making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine to the mix. Call it The Limbaugh Laws:
“First: If you immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor; no unskilled workers allowed. Also, there will be no special bilingual programs in the schools with the Limbaugh Laws. No special ballots for elections. No government business will be conducted in your language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold political office.
“If you’re in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled to welfare, food stamps, or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here: an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But if you want to buy land, it’ll be restricted. No waterfront, for instance. As a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to the property.
“And another thing: You don’t have the right to protest. You’re allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our President or his policies. You’re a foreigner: shut your mouth or get out! And if you come here illegally, you’re going to jail.
“You think the Limbaugh Laws are harsh? Well, every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today! That’ how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country. Yet Mexicans come here illegally and protest in our streets!
“How do you say ‘double standard’ in Spanish? How about: ‘No mas!’”
But even if one is uninclined to see Limbaugh’s quotes as having been taken unfairly out of context, linking them to McCain makes as much sense as running a quote from Bill Maher and linking it to Obama.”
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“Rub raw the resentments of the community”
Saul Alinksy, Marxist leader, guru to Obama, on the role of a “community organizer”.
Mrage
Come on!
Obama’s chair, of his VP selection group, was a former Fannie Mae exec, who left Fannie Mae in disgrace.
Obama, in 3 year in the United States Senate, is the 2nd largest beneficiary of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were NOTHING more than piggy banks for the Democrat Party, pushing huge amounts of money to Democrats, so that Democrats would then BLOCK any attempt by President Bush or Congress to regulate Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac execs put large amounts of money into Jesse Jackson type “community organizing”.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac execs spoke, frequently, at Congressional Black Caucus events and asked for the help of Black Congress members in fighting off regulators.
Lehman Brothers gave huge amounts of money to Democrat candidates.
Once again, after only 3 years in the US Senate, Obama managed to be one of the largest beneficaries of the lobbyists and political contributions from Lehman Brothers.
Lehman Brothers was also CLOSELY allied with Al Gore, in Gores goofy “carbon credit” schemes.
The financial mess we are in is slightly bipartisan. There were a few Republicans who joined with Democrats on these issues.
However, the idea that everyone with a pulse should qualify for a home loan was pushed by the Congressional Black Caucus, as well as Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, both Chairman of financial committees.
These politicians came up with terms like “red lining” or “racist” to label anyone who wanted to make sure that home owners could afford their home mortgages.
YES race is an issue.
The racist members of the Congressional Black Caucus made race an issue, a long time ago!
Above
Should have said
Obama did not insult Mexicans?
Or
Rush did not insult Mexicans.
Sorry
I am upset at Obama for his Spanish language comercials.
It is true that some old ideals die hard, my mother said of the primary that she was sure she could vote for a Black man. Then she said something that really blew my mind, she did not like the ideal of a woman being President! She is 77 years old and I had never thought of her being a racist or a sexist. But she was raised in different times and with different ideals of the way the world should work.
But yes race is an issue for some and it will not stop for years to come.
Or “Obama, Rush did NOT insult Mexicans”
Anyway, I screwed up on that one.
Why is it Ok to go after the “Black Vote” or the “Hispanic Vote” or the “Women’s Vote” —
But NOT OK to go after the “White Male” vote?
“But former GOP House Majority Leader Dick Armey recently told USA Today that the race issue is very real and is everywhere: “There’s an awful lot of people in America, bless their heart, who simply are not emotionally prepared to vote for a black man,” he said.”
Hardly a “liberal Democrat”
The fact is that Armey is right – sadly. Not that many here but go down South and talk to people. I know many who say they would never vote for a “ni**er”
If Obama were white, with his views, Hillary would have cleaned the floor with him.
Obama is the most liberal person ever to run for President.
Obama is also the least qualified person ever to run for President.
Geraldine Ferraro was right. Obama used race to get where he is.
Now? Obama does not want anyone else to notice that fact.
I told a small group of friends 2 years ago that if Obama ran and Oprah supported him, he’d win the Presidency.
I should have taken that to Vegas.
I sincerely doubt that Obama will win.
I used to think it would be close.
Not any more.
Obama’s inexperience is showing.
Also, the radicalism of the looney left, plus the bias of the media, will work against Obama.
“Vote for Obama or you are a RACIST!”
Will that work for you?
“It is the blacks that are really the racists.”
Just let that sink in for a second.
Stand in wonder of the abject ignorance and egrigious arrogance of the mind that is capable of formulating that thought.
It’s like looking at the Grand Canyon–one is awestruck by the huge empty hole.
Yell “hello” at Kandisue, and it’ll reverberate several times in her hollow cranium . . .
Obama IS a racist.
Obama is lying to Mexicans, to win Mexican votes.
Obama things Mexicans are too stupid to know taht Obama is lying to them.
A better question is who is it that always brings up the issue of race?
Actually, Kandisue is right on this one.
Capn, is it your position that a Black person can never be a racist?
Many Democrats think that Obama can not win.
They want to see this as a defeat due to “racism” and NOT a defeat of liberalism.
Whatever.
As long as they are defeated, I don’t care if they understand why, or not.
Sure, race is in issue. It always has been, and always will be. And, it’s an issue for both sides. There are those that will vote for Obama because he has black skin, there are those will vote against him for the same reason. SHameful in both regards.
let’s see if the ‘media’ has done their job – inspite of Obamah’s add – who was Limbaugh quoting when he said “shut up or get out”
“Obama is the most liberal person ever to run for President.”
Let’s let the sheer stupidity of that sink in for awhile. More liberal than Kucinich? More liberal than Peter Camejo? More liberal than Eugene Debs? The complete stupidity of Paul’s verbal vomit knows no bounds.
Hee hee heee. Gotta love it. I’m no sebelius fan, but the irony of christian morgan speaking of someone ELSE being “off her rocker” is just too juicy.
‘Cause ya know, if anyone knows about being “off her rocker” it’s kobach and morgan…
If you have 90% of a demographic rallying behind something, it sure as heck isn’t foreign policy!
“Obama is currently running Spanish language advertising trying to “link” Senator John McCain, a champion of “comprehensive immigration reform” to Rush Limaugh, who attacked McCain on this issue.
Obama is a liar.”
No kidding.
dadman
Limbaugh said, in effect, that the MEXICAN GOVERNMENT said, “shut up, get out!” to foreigners who protested, in Mexico.
Limbaugh wanted Norte’ Americans to treat Mexicans the same way Mexico treats Norte’ Americanos!
Maggot
Obama is a Marxist.
Yes, Obama is worse than Eugene V. Debbs.
but, of course, I meant, “most liberal major party candidate in history” and Obama, clearly, IS the most liberal in that regard.
I took it as being the most liberal to be nominated by a party. Dems can skirt that issue and twist words around to take the eyes of the facts that it is absolutely true.
Obama sudied the Marxist Saul Alinsky, and worked for those trained by the Marxist Saul Alinsky, in Chicago.
Black Liberation Theology has strong Communist influences.
Obama hung out with Marxist Frank Davis, in Hawaii.
Obama supported the Marxist Odinga, in Kenya.
Paul, you don’t know what a Marxist is or you just don’t know anything about Obama’s positions. Either way you manage to prove your incompetence daily.
BTW, there’s also Henry Wallace and William Jennings Bryan who were more liberal than Obama. History, you should try studying it someday. Oh, and the Socialist party was a major political party. You might learn about it if you pay attention in history class.
Speaking of Mexicans. I do believe McCain thinks Spain is somewhere in the Western Hempisphere. He may think it’s in North America because he thinks the President of Spain has something to do with Mexico.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_asked_if_he_would_invite_0918.html
“Obama supported the Marxist Odinga, in Kenya.”
So did the Bush State Department.
The dimos are the ones that keep bringing up Obama’s race. Why?
If they truly don’t want it to be an issue then they should keep their mouths shut.
But they won’t because they would like to see a race war in this country.
God Help Us if that should happen.
If Barak Obama was an Arab-American, he wouldn’t have gotten past the front gate of the Democratic plantation.
Bilious Sebelius is a racist who supports, promotes, and protects Planned Parenthood’s decades-old policy of targeting the black race for population reduction through an abortion rate 3 times higher.
Maggot
Obama believes in radical redistribution of wealth.
Obama believes that it is the role of government to insure “fairness” in all economic matters.
Obama is a Marxist.
When asked what books formed Obama’s beliefs, he quotes radical Marxists.
Read Obama’s own books!
By the way, Obama admires Eugene Debs, in Obama’s own books.
Neither Henry Wallace nor William Jennings Bryan would be considered as left wing as Obama, if either were alive today.
By the way, Obama is a “crony Marxist” as opposed to a “crony capitalist” — Obama wants to be more “equal” than others.
“Capn, is it your position that a Black person can never be a racist?”
It is my position that a mob of black men never lynched a white man because he was white. (The one exception to this might be after the Rodney King beating when all the white cops were found “not guilty.” There was black on white backlash briefly in Oakland.)
It is my position that black bankers don’t routinely deny loans to whites because they are white.
It is my position that cab drivers don’t let whites stand in the rain because they are white.
It is my position that police and fire refuse to go into sections of town because they are white.
It is my position that women’s college basketball teams are not called “nappy headed ho’s” when they are white.
It is my position that whites have not endured 400 years of discrimination in the United States because they are white.
SolDevVB
They prefer a run of the mill white woman.
Didn’t know there was another white woman running for president.
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Ann Coulter is running?
Would that be fantastic or what?
Ann for President and Sarah for Vice-President.
correction: that police and fire do not refuse
BTW, Franklin–
Saul Alinsky was not a Marxist.
I read both his books cover to cover.
Have you?
BTW, William Buckley, Jr. called Alinsky “an organizational genius.”
CapnAmerica
Posted September 18, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
BTW, Franklin–
Saul Alinsky was not a Marxist.
I read both his books cover to cover.
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Licking the pages does not count as reading.
CapnAmerica
Posted September 18, 2008 at 5:52 pm | Permalink
“Capn, is it your position that a Black person can never be a racist?”
It is my position that a mob of black men never lynched a white man because he was white. (The one exception to this might be after the Rodney King beating when all the white cops were found “not guilty.” There was black on white backlash briefly in Oakland.)
Briefly?
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Check out the Carr brothers.
At about 11 PM on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men who had two female guests. The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. They beat the men and raped the women.
In addition to repeatedly raping the women, the Carr Brothers have been found guilty of forcing them to perform sexual acts on each other, sodomizing one of them, and forcing the three male victims to perform sex acts with each of the women. Then the Carr Brothers robbed them and brutally murdered four of them.
According to a lone survivor’s horrifying pre-trial testimony, after sexually tormenting them, the Carr Brothers took the friends individually to an ATM machine and forced them to withdraw as much cash as possible. Then, the Carr Brothers transported their naked victims to a remote soccer field and forced them to kneel in the snow before shooting them execution-style in the head, and then running them over with a truck. After leaving their victims for dead, the Carr Brothers returned to the men’s apartment and stole appliances, bedding, and china.
The four friends who died were: Jason Befort, 26, an Augusta High School science teacher and football coach; Brad Heyka, 27, a director of finance with Koch Financial Services; Heather Muller, 25, a St. Thomas Aquinas pre-school teacher who planned to become a nun; and Aaron Sander, 29, a former Koch employee who had decided to become a priest.
The fifth friend, a 25-year-old woman, miraculously survived. To get help, she walked nearly a mile, naked and bleeding from her wounds, through snow and subfreezing temperatures. Her identity is being protected because she was the victim of a sex crime.
The surviving victim and Jason Befort were planning to marry soon. But Jason never had the opportunity of placing the engagement ring he had just purchased on her finger. It was discovered and stolen by the intruders.
A Preliminary Hearing for the Carr Brothers was held in April 2001 at which the survivor testified using her initials, H.G. However, since a gag order had previously been issued to the witnesses, Judge Rebecca Pilshaw warned them, and everyone else in the courtroom, that “the less that is said about these things, the better it will be for all parties involved.”
Judge Pilshaw continued, threateningly: “I don’t have the ability to order a lot of other people to do or not to do certain things, but I am going to make a very, very strong suggestion that people not talk about this.” However, many news reporters and Wichita residents were opposed to these efforts to suppress the facts of this case. Outside of Kansas, there has been a virtual media blackout.
The Carr Brothers are African-Americans. All of their victims, including Ann Walenta, 56, a cellist with the Wichita Symphony Orchestra, who was shot and died from her wounds a month lateer, were White. However, according to District Attorney Nola Foulston, ” the fact that the defendants and victims happen to be of different races has no bearing.”
Although e-mails, letters to the editor and other comments in public forums have questioned whether the degradation, torture, and murders were racially motivated, Foulston strongly maintains that race was not an issue. During the preliminary hearing Foulston appears to have studiously avoided questions to the survivor which may have yielded evidence to the contrary.
Jury selection for the Carr Brothers trial began on September 9th 2002 at the Sedgwick County Courthouse and was completed on Wednesday, October 2nd. The trial began on Monday, October 7th. On Monday, November 4th, the jury returned verdicts of guilty for most charges against the Carr Brothers. Finally, on Friday, November 15, the Carr Brothers were sentenced to death. However, various appeals processes may delay their execution for more than ten years
Court TV originally said they would broadcast the entire trial. Then they “changed their mind” and said they would only broadcast the opening statements of the prosecuting and defense attorneys and the testimony of the survivor–but then they mysteriously “changed their mind” again and only provided a few brief news reports about the trial.
From a 1972 Playboy Interview–
PLAYBOY: The assumption behind the Administration’s Silent Majority thesis is that most of the middle class is inherently conservative. How can even the most skillful organizational tactics unite them in support of your radical goals?
ALINSKY: Conservative? That’s a crock of crap. Right now they’re nowhere. But they can and will go either of two ways in the coming years — to a native American fascism or toward radical social change. Right now they’re frozen, festering in apathy, leading what Thoreau called “lives of quiet desperation:” They’re oppressed by taxation and inflation, poisoned by pollution, terrorized by urban crime, frightened by the new youth culture, baffled by the computerized world around them. They’ve worked all their lives to get their own little house in the suburbs, their color TV, their two cars, and now the good life seems to have turned to ashes in their mouths. Their personal lives are generally unfulfilling, their jobs unsatisfying, they’ve succumbed to tranquilizers and pep pills, they drown their anxieties in alcohol, they feel trapped in longterm endurance marriages or escape into guilt-ridden divorces. They’re losing their kids and they’re losing their dreams. They’re alienated, depersonalized, without any feeling of participation in the political process, and they feel rejected and hopeless. Their utopia of status and security has become a tacky-tacky suburb, their split-levels have sprouted prison bars and their disillusionment is becoming terminal.
They’re the first to live in a total mass-media-oriented world, and every night when they turn on the TV and the news comes on, they see the almost unbelievable hypocrisy and deceit and even outright idiocy of our national leaders and the corruption and disintegration of all our institutions, from the police and courts to the White House itself. Their society appears to be crumbling and they see themselves as no more than small failures within the larger failure. All their old values seem to have deserted them, leaving them rudderless in a sea of social chaos.
Believe me, this is good organizational material.
Kandi–
The Carr Bros are horrible scum who richly deserved their executions.
But there was never any evidence that it was a racially motivated crime. In fact, they entered the apartment building to attack someone else they knew who was black, but knocked on the wrong door.
BTK slowly strangled each member of the Otero family to death. Did he target them because they were hipanos? No . . .
Source there candy? Who wants to bet it’s worldnutdaily? Sounds like Ian to me.
Yeah Captain. And when white evangelical wingnuts kill a gay boy in Wyoming, that isnt a hate crime either.
Or when some white crackers in east Texas drag a black man behind a truck until he dies, that isnt a hate crime either.
It’s selective, ya know?
Did you notice at the ‘publican convention when Palin gave her speech, that the focus of every male eye in the audience was fixed at about 14 inches below Palin’s eye level? Sexism is just as much a part of this election as racism, and I don’t believe that the country can afford either one right now. After 8years of stupid, we need to concentrate on electing intelligence! Neither bust size or skin pigmentation are remotely relevant to the problems our nation faces.
This election is going to be decided by who gets the majority in the skooshy middle. This is a battle for the hearts and minds of the skooshy middle. The folks that can’t make up their mind. The independents. Sad that it comes down to that.
Of course, there will be some Democrats who are racist that will defect to McCain for that reason. So the question of racism should be more directed at the Democrat base,
Republicans wouldn’t vote for Obama if he were purple and they were K-State fans.
If you don’t think that race wasn’t a factor in the Carr bros did what they did to those folks, you are blind and fooling yourself. You are not fooling anyone else.
Still, it was an isolated incident by idiots that shouldn’t be given any more weight than that.
Like the Matthew Shepard killing or the dragging death of that poor black guy in TX.
You got it backwards, you have to say “Bless her heart” first, then the meaness comes.
Could be, Sol, but I have heard it both ways.
Correction.
If you don’t think that race WAS a factor….
Obama used race to get where he is.
It would be a bit hard for him to deny his half-blackness.
My dad once rode in an elevator at the Plaza Hotel with Eartha Kitt (1964). Beside her was a little blonde girl, and someone in the elevator commented on the girl’s pretty tan. Eartha’s reply was, “That’s not a tan, honey, that’s me.”
CapnAmerica
Posted September 18, 2008 at 6:10 pm | Permalink
Kandi–
The Carr Bros are horrible scum who richly deserved their executions.
But there was never any evidence that it was a racially motivated crime.
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the autopsy of 25-year-old Heather Muller, the student who was also a
preschool teaching volunteer, indicated new trauma to her hymen, showing
that she had been a virgin at the time of her rape and murder, belying
the statement allegedly made by Reginald Carr “Ever been with a Black
dude before, you bitch?”
I thought the Carr Bros had already been executed.
Or were they only sentenced?
The dead girl could repeat what Carr said, Kandi?
Wow. That’s impressive?
More of a concern for Obama is not his color, it is that he is the Anti-Christ! I actually encountered someone whom believes it and he pointed to several things that point to the fact.
Obama is a Moslem.
Obama wants to disarm the American people.
Obama wants to drive the country into the depths of ruin by taxing everyone four times as high as they are now.
Obama never speaks of his faith.
Obama’s preacher taught racism in his church.
I than asked what church was that? He told me the church was in Chicago.
“Really and what denomination is that church?”
He knew it was a Christian church that Obama attended for 20 years.
I than asked why would a Moslem be attending a Christian church for the last 20 years.
“I never thought about that!”, he replied and it seems he had not thought about the other stuff too.
It took no more effort to shoot down the rest as nothing more than lies and distortions of lies.
He got all his information from his pastor and through his church didn’t Jesus issue a warning about people of faith becoming political?
He countered with Palin speaks openly of her faith and how she would institute government policies based on the instructions she received from God.
Need a fish? I found one in a barrel and the shooting was easy.
People need to think for themselves and learn fact from fiction this country is too important to leave it to lies and fictions. Vote for Obama or McCain on the facts not on the spin but that is not what the people want to do. Its not as much fun as believing the moon is made of green cheese.
That’s because Christian Morgan is an idiot. I know lifelong democrats who changed parties this year. I can name at least 10 people who have said they will not vote for a black person- not now- not ever.
Its a huge issue. I’m glad they’re changing parties.
Saul Alinsky shows his dark, mischievous sense of humor in his book, Rules for Radicals: “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
Is the race issue real?
Just ask Ophra.
Capn
Do you think OJ is guilty of murder?
Did OJ get away with murder, due to racism?
There is outrage on all sides.
Steven Nary sits in prison, because Nary was attacked by a gay sexual preditor, and Nary defended himself.
His attacker, a wealthy, politically connected gay rights activist in San Francisco, died.
For the “sin” of not allowing a gay man to rape him, Nary sits in prison.
http://www.amicusveritas.org/AMPLP/chronology.htm
KFG
Your facts are wrong, on the Mathew Shepard case, as well:
“Exploiting Matthew Shepard
Media Monitor | By Cliff Kincaid | December 22, 2004
Matthew wasn’t “gay” and “proud.” He was profoundly troubled.
You know there must be something happening when the New York Times praises ABC News for running “an intellectually brave episode” of the “20/20″ show that has angered the homosexual lobby. That means the Times found it convincing, and so did we. In the November 27 show, “20/20″ uncovered the truth about the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard, widely depicted as a hate crime because he was a homosexual. Almost everything we were told about this murder at the time by ABC, the Times and every other major news organization was false.
We were told that this University of Wyoming student was murdered simply because he was a homosexual. The truth is that he was the victim of a robbery gone bad by two drug addicts. What’s more, Shepard was also a heavy drug user who was HIV-positive. Not only were the perpetrators of this brutal crime not “homophobes,” but one of them knew Shepherd and was allegedly bisexual. The real story of the Matthew Shepard case, as the prosecutor says on “20/20,” concerns the dangers of methamphetamine. The two killers and Shepard were big meth users.
Why were the stories about this crime so wrong? The gay rights movement wanted to depict Shepard as an innocent victim of a homophobic society. This played into their demands for legislation to curb so-called “hate crimes.” One of the perpetrators used that to his advantage, arguing when he went on trial that he went into a panic when Shepard tried to proposition him at a bar. His girlfriend made the same claim in the media, including on “20/20.” But now they say it was all a ruse, designed to get him a reduced sentence by suggesting that he wasn’t in control of his faculties when the murder occurred. The ploy failed. Both of those involved in the murder got life in prison.
ABC and correspondent Elizabeth Vargas are now under heavy fire from the homosexual lobby for dispelling the Shepard myth. But ABC and Vargas ALSO show Shepard to be a very depressed young man, on the verge of suicide, because of his homosexual lifestyle. The “gay rights” lobby doesn’t want to face up to that. Matthew wasn’t “gay” and “proud.” He was profoundly troubled”
http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/exploiting-matthew-shepard/
“This election is going to be decided by who gets the majority in the skooshy middle. This is a battle for the hearts and minds of the skooshy middle. The folks that can’t make up their mind.” — outlander
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The election will be decided by a few states who swing the electoral votes to one candidate or the other. Few of us who post here live in any of those states (waving to Sol from Michigan!). That’s why Sarah Palin hasn’t made a difference after the initial bounce. Where she has energized are the places that were already going for McCain. No net increase. The six electoral votes from Kansas were already going to McCain, just because more Republicans from Kansas are excited about voting doesn’t increase the number of electoral votes McCain will get from Kansas.
Sadly, those swing states that will decide this election are also among the states with the biggest potential problems in conducting the election process.
Election day could be a mess
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26767481/
CapnAmerica
The dead girl could repeat what Carr said, Kandi?
Wow. That’s impressive?
“and there was never any evidence that it was a racially motivated crime”
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and there was never any evidence that it wasn’t – other than the brutality of it – but only a blind liberal would not be able to see it for what it was – a white HATE crime.
Is race a real issue? You bet. I listen to those voting against Obama, and I hear the undertones. It’s there for anyone who listens. I would rather hear them say, “I ain’t voting for him ’cause he’s black”, then the crap I’ve been hearing. Ya, race is an issue; that’s too bad.
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JMWalker
Posted September 18, 2008 at 7:25 pm | Permalink
Is race a real issue? You bet. I listen to those voting against Obama, and I hear the undertones. It’s there for anyone who listens. I would rather hear them say, “I ain’t voting for him ’cause he’s black”, then the crap I’ve been hearing. Ya, race is an issue; that’s too bad.
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I haven’t found an “against” button while voting for a candidate.
Perhaps you are having vision problems and need to see a doctor.
KFG
In case you didnt catch it, in the post above:
Mathew Shepard was a METH HEAD.
His killers were ALSO addicted to Meth.
There is NO evidence that his attackers were religiously motivated at all, or any evidence as to their church attendence.
You sound like a real kook, when you insist that every gay person, who is murdered, is killed by some “right wing” religious or political person.
It is not true.
The truth is, gay domestic violence is rather common.
One of Shepard’s killers, in fact, is thought to be bi-sexual.
I think it’s sad that 47 days before the election the race card gets pulled.
Here we have less than two months to decide the future of a nation which is rapidly sinking into a depression, jobs being lost, homes, lost, a war we cannot afford, addicted to oil imports (yes, I used Bush words because it’s true), refuse to drill our own, and importing everything we own which will leave a debtor nation to the world. And we are talking about the color a candidates skin?
NO: We are talking about TALKING ABOUT the color of a candidates skin.
We are in this mortgage mess because LIBERALS led the Congress to believe that it was “racist” to deny a loan to someone who could not make the payments.
Rhonda, why can’t we have some productive threads?
Every day until the election, create two threads on the issues this election. For instance healthcare. The Obama Thread would list Obama’s position/plan, the merits, costs, and opportunities. The McCain thread would post the same.
Let the bloggers post on each. The next day would be another two threads on say, the war.
Instead of this mindless chatter, we could be talking about the pro’s and con’s of each candidates stated position on the issues.
Rhonda, why can’t we have some productive threads?
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We’ve had those kinds of threads and they don’t generate posts, or degenerate to the usual arguing over what doesn’t (or shouldn’t) matter to adults or voters.
Each day on the Open Thread we have the opportunity to make it what matters. You’ve seen how that works out.
The sides were chosen long ago. No one has changed an opponents opinion. The more factual the post, the more likely it will be scrolled over, or, at best, the opponents to that thought will attack the messenger. Everyone here has their own version of “truth.”
So what’s the point? Maybe the newspaper should come up with something different for the two sides to fight on. I’m thinking video games or some sort. Someplace we can shoot at each other with ray guns or karate chops. Let us pick teams (I pity whomever is picked last). Add scores and let us go at it.
Or perhaps a question and answer sort of thing. Less game like, and points could be scored on correct (factual) answers only. Timed.
Something like you see at the bars and some food sports bars where customers sign in and answer questions competing against others in the bar. Sometimes these games are linked through multiple locations/bars.
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Franklin
Posted September 18, 2008 at 7:38 pm | Permalink
We are in this mortgage mess because LIBERALS led the Congress to believe that it was “racist” to deny a loan to someone who could not make the payments.
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It’s hard to believe, but you become dumber with every cut and paste. I’ve given the reason for this mess a dozen times. You’ve called me stupid every time. The truth is, it took both the house and the senate, along with the white house, to allow this to happen. Bottom line:
The Republicans allowed Communism into this government, and the Democrats did nothing about it. You are unable to understand that: your brain is wired to hate anything Democrat. It is blind to the truth. So keep up crying wolf: makes for good humor . . . morbid, but humor nonetheless.
So what’s the point?
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Excellent question. I don’t have an answer.
Everyone here seems to have their own “facts” too. Guess if your game suggestion was tried we would spend more time arguing over whether it was a “correct and factual” answer that should be awarded points than we would answering questions.
There are few posters here who can even refer to one another without calling the other names or improvising on the nic to make it something distasteful. Or they revert to making the words liberal or conservative something distasteful instead of just a difference in political persuasion.
I don’t think you could call it racist and most times not sexist. What would be a term for this kind of behavior? Other than childish?
And let’s be honest Captain America, your It is my position post is a wonderful flag waving event (which captures little interest for what it is).
But the truth is some people naturally are attracted to people of their own color. Has nothing to do with history, or the nation owning up to a great wrong, or owing a race something for past discretions.
It is true that the majority of blacks do support Obama. I will say much of it can be attributed to the democratic party membership (take a look at any gathering of republicans to see what I mean), but it is documented that many blacks feel it is “time” to elect a black man as president. Many prominent black Americans have stated words to that effect. They have stated about history being made and “their” race and promotion of it is paramont. Just look at the Clinton/Obama discussions. But you can surely look this up on the web to confirm without me providing a dozen references.
I do not see or hear whites stating it is “time” to elect a white. But I do believe, that all racial groups natural selection to those like themselves whom they are comfortable with will lead to how some people vote.
We may all be aware in 2008 of the importance of color blindness. But it will be another hundred years before the blinds come all the way off. This applies to all races.
JM
The charge of “red lining” was brought up by liberals.
The Congressional Black Caucus beat up on the lending industry, to grant loans to anyone with a pulse.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac gave huge amounts of money, in campaign contributions, to mostly liberal Democrats.
Fannie and Freddie also gave money to “community organizers” that agitated for even less restrictions on mortgage lending.
Fannie and Freddie then borrowed money, at subsidized federal rates, and used that money to purchase bad mortages from their liberal friends at Country Wide and other mortage firms.
Franklin Rains left Fannie in disgrace, but only after taking roughly $90,000,000.00 in pay and benefits.
Franklin Rains is a chief advisor to Obama now, and helped Obama pick his VP.
Obama is one of the top recipients of campaign cash from Lehman Brothers.
Obama is one of the top recipients of campaign cash from Fannie and Freddie and Countrywide.
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Franklin
Posted September 18, 2008 at 8:20 pm | Permalink
JM
The charge of “red lining” was brought up by liberals.
The Congressional Black Caucus beat up on the lending industry, to grant loans to anyone with a pulse.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac gave huge amounts of money, in campaign contributions, to mostly liberal Democrats.
Fannie and Freddie also gave money to “community organizers” that agitated for even less restrictions on mortgage lending.
Fannie and Freddie then borrowed money, at subsidized federal rates, and used that money to purchase bad mortages from their liberal friends at Country Wide and other mortage firms.
Franklin Rains left Fannie in disgrace, but only after taking roughly $90,000,000.00 in pay and benefits.
Franklin Rains is a chief advisor to Obama now, and helped Obama pick his VP.
Obama is one of the top recipients of campaign cash from Lehman Brothers.
Obama is one of the top recipients of campaign cash from Fannie and Freddie and Countrywide.
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I rest my case.
Well Franklin and Kandi are CLEARLY racists from their posts here.
It may be that racism and bigotry are genetic in people predisposed to be cons.
Is Kathleen going to address the 95% of blacks who are going to vote Obama? Isn’t voting against a man because he is white racism?
It is not racist to state the truth.
There is not a racist bone in my body.
I just think that “politically correct” politics got us into this mess, and we can not get out of it, unless we are honest with ourselves.
A Mr Mudd addressed the Congressional Black Caucus, on behalf of Fannie Mae (this is Roger Mudd’s son, and ran Fannie for awhile after Raines was forced out). Raines begged the Congressional Black Caucus to continue supporting Fannie Mae.
Mr. Mudd called the Congressional Black Caucus “the conscience” of Fannie Mae!
When racial politics pushes the country to make bad decisions, we all need to speak up.
Black people overwhelmingly ALWAYS vote for the Democratic candidate.
I think this is because they have as a people, a history of being oppressed and have no desire to go back there.
White working people who vote Republican puzzle me. I see little sense in working to further your own oppression. I guess they keep on believing that someday they WILL be rich.
Either that or they think their suffering is some sort of divine assignment. I think this likely the case for many such folk.
Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
Fannie Mae promises to “tear down barriers” to getting loans.
By the way, Mudd got lots of money from Fannie Mae and ALSO left in disgrace.
He is a liberal. I would not vote for him regardless of his color. (I could make an afrosheen on a pig joke here but I will not stoop so low.)
I would be sorely tempted to vote for Colin Powell, even though he and I disagree on many things. He is no liberal, and his resume is quite impressive.
JellObama is a liberal with no resume.
Kathy, that is not code.
Obama has a resume, but his talents are the same as the talents of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton:
1.)Piss people off about something
2.)Convince those people to vote the way you want, to “change” whatever they are pissed off about.
Fannie and Freddie were Democrat playgrounds, Democrat piggy banks.
There is no way to get around the truth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
I know “Franklin” has sponsors here.
They must keep up with the posts here. To make sure he is doing his job?
Well, they should know then that I was VERY against Barack Obama. Senator Clinton was my candidate.
But Franklin has been no small part of making me realize that I must vote for Senator Obama.
Franklin
We are in this mortgage mess because LIBERALS led the Congress to believe that it was “racist” to deny a loan to someone who could not make the payments.
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That is EXACTLY right.
But liberals would rather cut their throat than admit the truth.
BJ
BULL!
Nobody believes you.
There was no chance in hell that you would ever vote for McCain.
Your Communist leanings are stronger than your racist tendencies.
What woman nowadays believes that a hymen proves virginity? That died about 2 centuries ago.
BlueJay
Well, they should know then that I was VERY against Barack Obama. Senator Clinton was my candidate.
But Franklin has been no small part of making me realize that I must vote for Senator Obama.
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One day you are radically against abortion next day – you totally support it.
You say you were against obama – but now you say you support him.
Just how many times have you had that electroshock treatment? Or is this what they call severe bi polar?
“BJ
BULL!
Nobody believes you.”
My posts here over many months clearly speak for themselves and me. I did post exactly one time that I might vote for McCain.
I had no intention of voting for Obama. I said so often. You, Franklin, have helped me realize that I must vote for Obama.
This is partly due to the position you have made for yourself on this forum. You are perhaps the most demonstrated liar regularly posting this forum. You are an admitted thug and bigot.
The candidate who has your support is not someone I could respect let alone vote for.
Political mama would you also say that folks like “Franklin” have encouraged you to vote for Obama. Like me you were a Clinton supporter.
Kandi? Project much dear?
You DO still believe that a raped woman should be forced to give birth?
BJ
I have never lied on this Blog.
You WISH that what I say was not true.
That, however, does not make it false.
Obama presented himself as a phony “moderate” —
When Republicans finally proved that Obama was a left wing nut —
BJ fell right in line!
Thought Provoking.
A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality That they imagine
that America can suffer defeat Without any inconvenience to themselves.
Pause a moment, reflect back.
These events are actual events from history.
They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
4. During the 1980’s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male
extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at At hens, and a US Navy diver
trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists between the
ages of 17 and 40.
8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time
by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as
missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one
crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the
passengers. Thousands of people were killed by
Muslim male extremists between the of 17 and 40.
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim
male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by– you
guessed it- Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.
No, I really don’t see a pattern here to justify
profiling, do you?
So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics
intent on killing us,
Airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain
people…
Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids,
airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the
President’s security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and
Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss,
But leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40
Alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
According to The Book of Revelation:
The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power he will destroy everything.
And Now:
For the award winning
Act of Stupidity
Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet —
The Presidency of the United states of America
A Muslim
Male
in his 40s!!
Say what you want, he was born a Muslim (and is still considered a Muslim
by his family), to a Muslim father. His mother remarried, yep another Muslim so
what makes you think she didn’t raise him as a Muslim? His African family is
Muslim, he attended a Muslim school.
HELLO!!!!!!
Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power
of Reason ???
I’m sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the’unknown’ candidate who will probably appoint as many as 4 Supreme Court Judges.
As the writer of the story ‘Forrest Gump’ so aptly put it,
‘Stupid Is As Stupid Does.’
“I have never lied on this Blog.”
Yeah it’s hard for you to admit to being a liar when your excuse is that everything you post is true because you believe it to be true.
“BJ fell right in line!”
In more than three years posting here and in more than 40 years of life I have NEVER fallen “right in line”.
But YOU, Franklin, did pull quite the switch.
During the primaries, you several times attacked John McCain with the most vile of accusations and insults.
Now that you are stuck with him, he’s your guy!
Franklin have you ever REALLY believed in….anything?
Boxlock?
Meet Franklin.
Now YOU Boxlock have ALSO been many times, many ways busted. Links posted that were debunked. Outright lies.
And that last little bit of drivel?
IF Franklin gets up a club, I think you should be the first member.
Don’t let Franklin get behind you with anything sharp though.
Alright another BlueJay all the time night!
Calling posters liars! The liar himself.
Now BlueJay why don’t you go sit in the corner for a time out for awhile. When you learn how to play nice come back out.
Better yet, go sit in the corner and turn blue
(Bluejay with a baggy over his head).
Or sit in the corner and turn red
(Bluejay chewing on a razer blade).
Now go ahead and pick on me for my name calling childlike posts that say no opinion – but only deride another poster.
THen go look in the mirror.
It’s really quite simple, except for ‘Stupid Is As Stupid Does’ folks like BlueJay.
Can anyone really trust Lawyers in politics and leading this country?
Hell No!!!
Obama/Biden = LAWYERS
McCain/Palin = NOT LAWYERS
BJ
What “vile attack” did I make against McCain?
I said he had a temper.
That is true.
I said McCain was wrong to claim that anyone did any racial “push poll” against him, in the Bush campaign. McCain, himself, dropped that charge long ago.
I said that I thought campaign finanace reform was an attack on the First Amendment. It was.
Even so, I have never degraded or insulted McCain’s service to his country.
In fact, I have been amazed that McCains strongest supporters, in the Primary, were some liberals on this Blog, who now call McCain “song bird” because McCain admits that he broke, under torture!
McCain is a very honorable man.
An honorable man that I am sure I will disagree with, in the future.
McCain has my vote. When he is wrong? He will hear from me and others like me.
BlueJay,
You sound just like this fourth husband!
A woman married three times walked into a bridal shop one day and told the sales clerk that she was looking for a wedding gown for her fourth wedding. Of course, madam,’ replied the sales clerk, ‘exactly what type and color dress are you looking for?’ The bride to be said: ‘A long frilly white dress with a veil’. The sales clerk hesitated a bit, then said, ‘Please don’t take this the wrong way, but gowns of that nature are considered more appropriate for brides who are being married the first time for those who are a bit more innocent, if you know what I mean? Perhaps ivory or sky blue would be nice?’
‘Well,’ replied the customer, a little peeved at the clerk’s directness, ‘I can assure you that a white gown would be quite appropriate. Believe it or not, despite all my marriages, I remain as innocent as a first-time bride. You see, my first husband was so excited about our wedding, he died as we were checking into our hotel.
My second husband and I got into such a terrible fight in the limo on our way to our honeymoon that we had that wedding annulled immediately and never spoke to each other again.’
What about your third husband?’ asked the sales clerk. ‘That one was a Democrat,’ said the woman, and every night for four years, he just sat on the edge of the bed and told me how good it was going to be, but nothing ever happened.’
Oh my goodness, you people have gone so far astray, it will be difficult to call you back.
Lastly, we have boxlock giving us nonsense about lawyers vs. non-lawyers. The Bush administration had few lawyers running the show, but plenty of them providing support for the unethical/illegal behavior of this (mis)administration – check out Yoo and Addington.
That should be enough to keep you guys busy for a while.
And here is “American way”
Or maybe it’s Hank?
With MOST of the cons that post this blog, who can tell?
But “Franklin” in any nic, and he HAS switched them, has always been easy to ferret out.
But Franklin DID help me come to know that it is best I vote for the person that can best beat McCain. I have to thank him for that.
Blew your own joke Boxy?
You, your party, and John McCain sound like the THIRD husband.
BlueJay that’s not the way the joke was written, besides, most Dimocrats ARE functionally impotent. The joke wouldn’t make sense your way.
Can’t you come up with something on your own?
“BlueJay that’s not the way the joke was written, besides, most Dimocrats ARE functionally impotent.”
It’s not MY party with the obsession on the sex OTHER people are having there Box.
Three to one and these idiots don’t know they are outnumbered.
Barak is the sainted savior of the left. To suggest otherwise is sinful.
Michelle Obama is unsavory. To say otherwise is unsavory or sinful.
Therefore,
Barak and Michelle are sinful
And, must therefore be condemned to hell!
QED…
Let’s not forget they killed babies…
oh, for you demon-crats, killing babies is wrong and sinful… KandiNation
Capn
Do you think OJ is guilty of murder?
Did OJ get away with murder, due to racism?
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OJ was guilty and he probably got off in part due to the racism of one of the detectives who most likely planted evidence.
Remember Mark “I Never Used the N Word” Fuhrman?
Because of his blatant racism, OJ walked.
Really, Boxlock?
Because Pat Robertson believes that anti-Christ will be a Jewish male.
Prompting Al Frankin who once shared a stage with Robertson to ask if Marvin Hamlisch might be the anti-Christ.
Robertson believed that, yes, it could be Marvin Hamlisch.
Yes Jr, Palin being nominated was the ‘oh crap’ factor I needed, as well as I just can’t handle these bloggers getting their way.
Dion–
What’s your point? Was there one?
In the last election, Bush won because a lot of rednecks saw him as a redneck.
And now it’s bad that GASP! an African-American would vote for an African-American.
The fact is that a lot of us, the majority in fact, are voting for him because he’s clearly the better candidate, black and white, brown and red.
Welcome on board, P-Mom and BlueJay.
We don’t have the luxury of not opposing the b@st@rds with everything we’ve got.
You guys rock!
Let me know if you want to volunteer . . . I got connections, hehehe . . .
Don’t push it. Obama is still not my favorite person right now.
Obama getting tougher with mccain:
BARACK Obama has gained ground on John McCain in key battleground states, wiping out the Republican’s lead in Florida and trailing by just one point in North Carolina, according to a new CNN/Time poll.
The poll comes as other surveys show Mr Obama regaining his national lead over Mr McCain as the impact of Sarah Palin’s selection as the Republican running mate appears to fade.
The CNN poll puts Mr Obama ahead by two points in Ohio and by three in Wisconsin, with Mr McCain leading by six points in Indiana. It shows the two candidates in a dead heat in Florida, with 48 per cent each.
Mr Obama’s poll surge follows days of aggressive Democratic campaigning aimed at portraying Mr McCain as out of touch on the economy, which voters identify as the most important issue in the campaign.
A University of Wisconsin analysis found that 77 per cent of Mr Obama’s ads in the past two weeks have been negative, compared with 56 per cent of Mr McCain’s.
That is where I am at too political mama.
My brother offered me an Obama yard sign today.
I took the Slattery and Betts yard signs and they are now on display.
But what I REALLY want is a sign that says “No way, no how, NO McCain. NO Palin!”
But I mention again to the sponsors of Franklin, it was he who made me understand the best way to beat McCain is to vote Obama.
It has to be hard on the old man’s ego:
“For second time this week, crowds leave after Palin speaks
At a rally outside Youngstown, Ohio, Tuesday night, dozens of attendees left while McCain was still speaking.
I caught up with a few of them. Some explained that the airplane hangar where the rally was being held had grown crammed and uncomfortable. Others said they had other events or commitments to get to.
Notably, though, the exodous had only begun after Palin spoke.
Now, the same thing has happened again.
“I look up, about five minutes into McCain’s address and see a steady stream of people walking out of the rally,” writes Radio Iowa’s Kay Henderson from a McCain-Palin event in Cedar Rapids.
In the clip she refers to “A Palin and Mccain administration”!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/a-what-administ.html
The Palin Pay Cut, that wasn’t, does this woman ever tell the whole story?
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/did_palin_really_take_a_pay_cu.php
Phant,
What do you bet that if Palin continues to upstage McCane he’ll find some reason to remove her from the ticket? Of course that would be a disaster for his campaign, but given his attitude toward women in general, I don’t see him willing to play second fiddle to Palin no matter what the cost.
By the way, did you see that news clip of them last week where he was standing next to her and staring down her cleavage right on the podium?
Of all the legitimate and very compelling reasons that make me oppose Obama with every fiber of my being, his race is so far down the list that its not even worth mentioning. Sebelius and Co. are the real racists.
Leave it to the dems and the MSM to start blaming it on race. I for one am not voting for him because I do not agree with the socialistic ideas that he and the dems support.
You notice how they call it a race issue because they don’t think enough non-blacks are voting for him instead of the fact that blacks are voting for him just because he is black. Hmmm??!!
Racism is real, but safe to say it covers a broader spectrum than just white on black. Obama, in a radio interview in Penn. during the primary against Hillary Clinton said his white grandmother is a “typical white woman” What does that mean? Other ism’s too, permeate in much of the media and politcal arena! Becoming more pronounced during the very long Democrat Presidental primary and now the general election between Obama and McCain-Palin. I added Palin’s name second since there seems to be some confusion by a great many Democrats and media about her place on the ticket!
Kathleen Sebelius was considered to be on the short list of VP choices by Obama. He choose a man over her. Maybe another ism at work? He believed her unequal to be his VP pick, but good enough to go into other states to “sweep” or clean up disenfranshised female voters on his behalf. The problem with Sebelius campaigning (race-baiting) for Obama in other states, is she is coming off as a typical poltical hack. I read her comments before the crowd in Iowa City, Iowa. Now that those comments have made national news her office is telling people her comments are “property of the Obama campaign? Politic’s as usual from the campaign that brought the Country THE candidate of hope and change!
When asked at the Iowa City event if Sebelius knew Gov.Palin she said no that she hadn’t ever had any personal contact with her. If memory serves, Gov. Sebelius AND Gov. Palin were both featured together on the front cover of Vogue magazine last year. Sebelius wearing an evening gown by fashion designer Oscar Del Renta, and Gov. Palin wearing a blue Alaskan Parka. Af course that was a different time, Obama (and Sebelius) wasn’t competing with the #2 on the McCain ticket, Gov. Palin. Sebelius’s job on Obama’s behalf is to do and say anything to knock down Palin’s appeal to voters, but particularly independent, females. After all aren’t we suppose to relate to ism’s, therefore more understanding of the big word racism and go along with Sebelius? Sorry Gov. this Wal-Mart christian(another ism) female voter knows when she’s being exploited!
IS RACE AN ISSUE???
Here are some of the Ones recently sponsored bills…….
S. 1790: Communities of Color Teen Pregnancy Prevention Act of 2007
S. 1713: A bill to provide for the issuance of a commemorative postage stamp in honor of Rosa Parks.
S. 1513: Predominantly Black Institution Act of 2007
S.Con.Res. 5: A concurrent resolution honoring the life of Percy Lavon Julian, a pioneer in the field of organic chemistry and the first and only African-American chemist to be inducted into the National Academy of Sciences.
S.Con.Res. 46: A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Sickle Cell Disease Awareness Month.
S.Res. 383: A resolution honoring and recognizing the achievements of Carl Stokes, the first African-American mayor of a major American city, in the 40th year since his election as Mayor of Cleveland, Ohio.
S.Res. 600: A resolution commemorating the 44th anniversary of the deaths of civil rights workers Andrew Goodman, James Chaney, and Michael Schwerner in Philadelphia, Mississippi, while working in the name of American democracy to register voters and secure civil rights during the summer of 1964, which has become known as “Freedom Summer”.
Nah, what has race got to do with it? No agenda here, nothing to look at folks….move along…..
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Obama Is Stoking
Racial Antagonism
By RUSH LIMBAUGHArticle
I understand the rough and tumble of politics. But Barack Obama — the supposedly postpartisan, postracial candidate of hope and change — has gone where few modern candidates have gone before.
Mr. Obama’s campaign is now trafficking in prejudice of its own making. And in doing so, it is playing with political dynamite. What kind of potential president would let his campaign knowingly extract two incomplete, out-of-context lines from two radio parodies and build a framework of hate around them in order to exploit racial tensions? The segregationists of the 1950s and 1960s were famous for such vile fear-mongering.
Here’s the relevant part of the Spanish-language television commercial Mr. Obama is running in Hispanic communities:
“They want us to forget the insults we’ve put up with . . . the intolerance . . . they made us feel marginalized in this country we love so much.”
Then the commercial flashes two quotes from me: “. . . stupid and unskilled Mexicans” and “You shut your mouth or you get out!”
And then a voice says, “John McCain and his Republican friends have two faces. One that says lies just to get our vote . . . and another, even worse, that continues the policies of George Bush that put special interests ahead of working families. John McCain . . . more of the same old Republican tricks.”
Much of the media that is uninterested in Mr. Obama’s connections to unrepentant 1970s Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright have so far gone along with the attempt to tie me to Mr. McCain. But Mr. McCain and I have not agreed on how to address illegal immigration. While I am heartened by his willingness to start by securing the borders, it is no secret that we have fundamental differences on illegal immigration.
And more to the point, these sound bites are a deception, and Mr. Obama knows it. The first sound bite was extracted from a 1993 humorous monologue poking fun at the arguments against the North American Free Trade Agreement. Here’s the context:
“If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine ’cause those are the kinds of jobs Nafta is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I’m serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.”
My point, which is obvious, was that the people who were criticizing Nafta were demeaning workers, particularly low-skilled workers. I was criticizing the mind-set of the protectionists who opposed the treaty. There was no racial connotation to it and no one thought there was at the time. I was demeaning the arguments of the opponents.
As for the second sound bite, I was mocking the Mexican government’s double standard — i.e., urging open borders in this country while imposing draconian immigration requirements within its own borders. Thus, I took the restrictions Mexico imposes on immigrants and appropriated them as my own suggestions for a new immigration law.
Here’s the context for that sound bite: “And another thing: You don’t have the right to protest. You’re allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. You’re a foreigner: shut your mouth or get out! And if you come here illegally, you’re going to jail.”
At the time, I made abundantly clear that this was a parody on the Mexican government’s hypocrisy and nobody took it otherwise.
The malignant aspect of this is that Mr. Obama and his advisers know exactly what they are doing. They had to listen to both monologues or read the transcripts. They then had to pick the particular excerpts they used in order to create a commercial of distortions. Their hoped-for result is to inflame racial tensions. In doing this, Mr. Obama and his advisers have demonstrated a pernicious contempt for American society.
We’ve made much racial progress in this country. Any candidate who employs the tactics of the old segregationists is unworthy of the presidency.
Mr. Limbaugh is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178554189155003.html
Chris,
“Of all the legitimate and very compelling reasons that make me oppose Obama with every fiber of my being, his race is so far down the list that its not even worth mentioning.”
Yeah, way down- second, maybe even third!
Pall,
Your (and Oxy Rush’s) continual harping on conections to the Weather Underground ignores the fact that back in the ’70’s nearly all of the Weather radicals put on Armani suits and became the theorists of the Neo-Con movement.
Black Berries are made for eating.
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