The Republican National Convention helped energize the GOP base, but it also was a bit surreal and confusing. President Bush was rarely mentioned. And the main theme was how bad it is in Washington, D.C., and how John McCain and Sarah Palin would bring needed reform. But the GOP has controlled the federal government for most of the past eight years. And many of the reforms that McCain has championed during his career have been opposed by the GOP base and most of his GOP colleagues in Congress. If voters want change, should they elect McCain and Palin or throw out the GOP?
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Things not often talked about at the convention:
1) Bush
2) The economy
3) Mortgage problems
4) Global warming
5) National debt
6) Trade deficits
Basically anything the Republicans made worse.
Good shot EAGLE Cartoonist Crowson!
The problem is that under Bush too many Republicans in congress said to hell with the conservative principle of smaller government.
Palin energized those of us who still have hope for reducing the size and scope of Federal government. Is that hope misplaced? Only time will tell but we darn sure know we don’t want what Obama Bin Biden have to offer.
Palin took a city with no debt, reduced taxes on the rich, increased sales taxes, and left the city with a $22 million debt. Yup, she’s another George Bush.
did I miss something here? Was there another election overnight and the Congress lost its Democratic majority? You know..the place where budgets are born (and added to with countless pork)?
Or…is the US House still in Democratic control with the worst speaker ever still there?
Throw out the GOP!
As bad as bush has been, Palin is FAR worse.
Anyone check the Gallup Daily Tracking Poll today?
50%/46%
Yep…throw out the GOP…and deal with Nancy Pelosi, who promised they would lower gas prices in their first 100 days. How is that working out?
Are you not aware of the parliamentary games the Republicans are doing to prevent votes on essential bills? YEs, the party that used to DEMAND “up-down’ votes stalls and obstructs… Get real..
“Senate Republicans have obstructed almost every bill in the Senate – even ones with wide bipartisan support.
* So far, in the first half of the first session of the 110th Congress, there have been THIRTEEN cloture votes on motions to proceed – each one wasting days of Senate time.
* In comparison, in the first sessions of the 108th and 109th Congresses combined, there were a total of FOUR cloture votes on motions to proceed.
*EIGHT times Republican obstruction tactics slowed critical legislation”
-www.oliverwillis.com/2007/06/27/republican-obstruction-in-the-senate/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&pwst=1&q=Republican+obstruction&start=10&sa=N
Thomas Frank’s book details it all.
“Th Wrecking Crew, how Conservatives Rule”
The cons are business in government.
Get business OUT of government. Get government IN business!
Hey raptor? We have psent billions of dollars occupying Iraq. Where is the cheap gasoline?
If we are going to operate as an empire let’s have everyone in on the benefit and not just the damned rich corporations.
Joe Cook does a commercial and every American needs to see it.
You have to watch the whole thing. When he finishes talking and walks away, you get a sense of how this could be the commercial of the campaign season.
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
bj….was there a promise made about cheap gasoline regarding Iraq? Would love to see that one. I know for a fact that Nancy Pelosi et al did PROMISE a reduction in gas prices in their first 100 days. Was there a similar promise about gas prices when this stupid war started? Nope…
Your comparison is invalid.
BJ
“Get government IN business!”
What do you think Freddie Mac and Fannie May are?
How’s that working out ya little Fascist?
“bj….was there a promise made about cheap gasoline regarding Iraq? ”
Yeah I think there was. Not sure on who made the promise. I think it was Rupert Murdoch.
“How’s that working out ya little Fascist?”
You tell me. Serf.
Rupert Murdoch? Sorry..he is not qualified to make promises on behalf of the US Government. (course, Pelosi isn’t qualified either, but in her position, she did make that promise). Again, your comparison is invalid.
As I recall gasoline was around 2.80 something in 2006. In 2006, a lot of republicans lost their seats to democrats who were considered conservative. Then there was that famous speech by Pelosi how they were going to shake up the congress and make changes and lower gas prices. Well that didn’t happen. Gas prices have doubled in the two years that the democrats have been in power in the congress. I think Congress is now shaking in their boots at the thought of someone like PALIN who is going to be the one that REALLY comes in and CLEANS HOUSE in the CONGRESS.
Get business out of government (oil companies writing US energy policy, two oil men in charge) and get government in business (windfall profits tax on the oil companies) and we can address this problem.
Anyone that is voting for McCain knows they’re sending the country into worse- they have to. The whole ‘Bush wasn’t a conservative’ crap is a lie. We’re at war, TWO wars at the same time- and he borrowed money that we have to pay off. So yeah- since you supported him you should have to feel it in your pocketbook. Stop whining about it.
That debt will still be there no matter who is President. You shouldn’t get any more time to screw up America.
Hey Dick, had the Dems done better in selecting their team on the field the GOP would be in the hurt locker bigtime right about now. This election certainly was the Dems to lose, and in going with style over substance they have done just that!
But at least a glass ceiling has been shattered, so you should just sit in the corner and pat yourself on the backside for that one. (With a barb wire whip)
Of the issues where McCain agreed with Bush 90% of the time, the Democrats seem to find it hard to list off the issues where that “agreement” was established.
Democrats really thought this election would be a cake walk.
The Dem’s strategy goes like this:
1. Bush is unpopular
2. Bush is a Republican
3. McCain is a Republican.
4. Therefore, McCain is the same as Bush.
Notice the lack of ability to focus on actual issues here?
Meanwhile at the two conventions, the Maverick in McCain shines through while the Democrats look like a bunch of whining Republican haters.
Maggotpunk
Posted September 8, 2008 at 6:28 am | Permalink
Palin took a city with no debt, reduced taxes on the rich, increased sales taxes, and left the city with a $22 million debt. Yup, she’s another George Bush.
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one MORE thing she “left the city” with……
an 80% approval rating……
maybe not a promise but
Appearing this afternoon on MSNBC’s Hardball, White House Counselor Dan Barlett adamantly denied that anyone in the administration claimed that the Iraq war would lead to lower gas prices. The transcript:
MATTHEWS: [W]e’ve been struck by higher gas prices. That was another promise made, that this war would help us get cheaper gas —
BARTLETT: I don’t think —
MATTHEWS: None of these promises come through.
BARTLETT: That’s not correct, Chris. The president or no one else ever said that this war was going to result in cheaper gas prices…
MATTHEWS: Ok, so just to make it official, Dan, no one in the administration has ever said that we would have cheaper gas because of war in Iraq, just to make it official?
BARTLETT: I don’t recall anybody ever saying that, Chris.
As Matthews noted later in the broadcast, Laurence Lindsey – President Bush’s senior economic advisor at the time — argued in 2002 that the Iraq war would increase oil supplies and lower prices. From the Washington Times, 9/19/02:
As for the impact of a war with Iraq, “It depends how the war goes.” But he quickly adds that that “Under every plausible scenario, the negative effect will be quite small relative to the economic benefits that would come from a successful prosecution of the war.”
“The key issue is oil, and a regime change in Iraq would facilitate an increase in world oil,” which would drive down oil prices, giving the U.S. economy an added boost.
Boxlocks, good cite this this video: Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
Hey Dick, sharpen your pencils and make fun of this guy. C’mon, you believe in nothing sacred, right? (Other than the Internationale, that is) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale
The One has announced another “change” over the weekend.
Since the economy is weak, he plans to continue the “Bush tax cuts.”
You know, the ones he voted against.
Chris, we had to have an actual majority to get anything done. Its absurd to even try to pin this on democrats because its your team blocking what we are trying to do.
RFL name ONE thing that McCain has opposed Bush on- and one thing that he would change in office.
Leonard Pitts definitely “hit one outta the park” with this op ed piece.
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CONSERVATIVES MADE HYPOCRISY AN ART
The federal government has three branches. The legislative, i.e., Congress, was under conservative control from 1995 until 2007. The judicial, i.e., the Supreme Court, consists of nine justices, seven of whom were nominated by conservative presidents. The executive, i.e., the president, is George W. Bush.
That it doesn’t matter much at all you can credit to conservative politicians who have, over the years, trained their followers to respond with Pavlovian faithfulness to certain terms. Say “conservative” and they wag their tails. Say “liberal” and they bare their fangs.
More to the point, say either and all thinking ceases, so much so that a representative of the ideology that has controlled most of Washington most of the past 12 years can say with a straight face that his ideology needs to seize control of Washington to fix what is broken there. And people hear this Orwellian doublespeak… and cheer. Why not? They have been taught that words mean what you need them to in a given moment.
Sadly, it has proved an easy lesson to impart. Turns out, all it requires is a limitless supply of gall and the inherent belief that people are dumber than a bag of hammers.
http://www.kansas.com/205/story/521656.html
On June 8, 2008 Palin was publicly blessed, with the “laying on of hands” before six thousand Wasilla area church members, by Head Wasilla Assembly of God Pastor Ed Kalnins and on the same day both Kalnins and Palin described, at a “Masters Commission” ceremony at the Wasilla Assembly of God church, how she had been blessed prior to winning the Alaska governorship by an African cleric known for driving the “spirit of witchcraft” out of a town in Kenya, after which town supposedly crime rates dropped “almost to zero.”
Sarah Palin’s churches are actively involved in a resurgent movement that was declared heretical by the Assemblies of God in 1949. This is the same ‘Spiritual Warfare’ movement that was featured in the award winning movie, “Jesus Camp,” which showed young children being trained to do battle for the Lord. At least three of four of Palin’s churches are involved with major organizations and leaders of this movement, which is referred to as The Third Wave of the Holy Spirit or the New Apostolic Reformation. The movement is training a young “Joel’s Army” to take dominion over the United States and the world.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/97939/?page=entire
And McSame isn’t even baptised. I wonder if she’ll convert him.
lindainks55
Posted September 8, 2008 at 8:22 am | Permalink
Leonard Pitts definitely “hit one outta the park” with this op ed piece
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Hilarious, if he says it enough, maybe HE will believe it too!!
heh, heh
Make sure you watch that video in the link…these are superfundy Christians.
The kind that are scary.
“Chris, we had to have an actual majority to get anything done.”
Don’t you have a majority in the House?
What has Nancy done?
“RFL name ONE thing that McCain has opposed Bush on- and one thing that he would change in office.”
I don’t know, I have not followed all of McCain’s votes during the last 8 years and I suspect neither has 99% of the country. I can’t even tell how where he disagreed with Bush 10% of the time. Can you?
One thing that is obvious is that running against McCain simply because he is a Republican does nothing to paint an image that the Democrats are the party to bring the country together.
McCain mentioned during his RNC speech that NEITHER party has all the answers and that we have to work together to make solutions that are the best interest the country. All the Dems did at their convention was Label McCain a Republican (which he is) and by that fact alone, claim that he will ruin America. Does not stick.
I’ll be interested in hearing how you approve of this failed strategy in November.
The dimos made a lot of promises they never intended to keep. The promises made for good political sound bites.
It appears the dimos are once again trying to use sound bites just as RFL said. The dimos have had an opportunity to do things with congress the past two years and they have done nothing. I take that back they have spent the last two years saying they were stopped by a republican president. Gee the republicans did not use that excuse when the dimos held the presidency. They got things done without whining.
The media got their dimo and republican candidate of choice and now they don”t like it. Deal with it.
Political_mama
Posted September 8, 2008 at 8:31 am | Permalink
Make sure you watch that video in the link…these are superfundy Christians.
The kind that are scary.
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“God DAMN America” at the top of your lungs screaming several times kind of “scary?”
Hangin’ out with guys that bombed 30 buildings kind of “scary?”
Putting an inexperienced radical liberal in charge of the most powerful military in the history of the world kind of “scary?”
then I guess that’s scary.
PMom disses what she can’t understand. PMom is a religious bigot.
Although there is nothing wrong with the Assemblies of God, Sarah Palin hasn’t attended church there since I believe 2002. She atends a non-denominational evangelical church.
Somewhat telling:
Office Being Sought:
SARA PALIN: Vice PresidentPresident of the United States
BARACK OBAMA: Leader of the Free World
FULL NAME: Sarah Louise Heath Palin
Barack Hussein Obama II
NICKNAME: Sarah Barracuda
Barry Obama; “The One”
PUBLIC OPINION: Palin: Smoking hot in a “naughty librarian” sort of way
Obama: May be The Messiah
AGE Palin: 44
Obama: 48
CHILDREN: Palin: 5 two sons, three daughters
Obama: 2 two daughters
RELEGION/CHURCH ATTENDANCE: Palin: Evangelical Christian; attends Juneau Christian Center when in Juneau and grew up attending Wasilla Assembly of God
Obama: Attended Trinity United Church of Christ for 20 years, a “black liberation theology” church formerly led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright and governed according to the Black Value System
CURRENT JOB: Palin: Governor of Alaska
Obama: Junior Senator from Illinois
PREVIOUS PUBLIC JOBS: Palin: Mayor of Wasilla , AK (1996-2002); President of Alaska Conference of Mayors; Ethics Commissioner of Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
City Council member (1992-1996)
Obama: State Senator (1997-2004); Community Organizer
EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE: Palin: Governor for 2 years; Mayor for 10 years
Obama: None
FOREIGN RELATIONS EXPEREINCE: Palin: Governor of state that borders two foreign countries ( Canada and Russia )
Obama: Chaired Senate subcommittee on Europe but never called it into session; once gave a speech to 200,000 screaming Germans
MILITARY AFFAIRS EXPERIENCE: Palin: Commander in Chief of Alaska National Guard; Son is enlisted Infantryman in U.S. Army
Obama: None
PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE: Palin: Sports reporter; Salmon fisherman
Obama: Associate at civil rights law firm
SPEAKING ABILITY: Palin: Beautifully executed initial stump speech in Dayton , OH hockey arena without a teleprompter
Obama: An enter…wait–did you say without a teleprompter??
SPOUSE’S NAME: Palin: Todd Mitchell Palin
Obama: Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama
SPOUSE’S OCCUPATION: Palin: Salmon fisherman;
Former North Slope production supervisor for BP Oil
Obama: Vice President for Community and External Affairs at University of Chicago Hospitals; former Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago ;
former Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies; former Assistant to the Mayor of Chicago; former associate at Sidley Austin law firm
REACTION TO SPOUSE’S POLITICAL SUCCESS:
Palin: Quit 17-year BP oil job when BP became involved in natural gas pipeline negotiations with wife’s administration
Obama: Promoted and given 160% pay raise by UofC hospitals within months of husband’s election to U.S. Senate; Employer received $1,000,000.00 federal earmark, requested by husband, after her promotion
COOLEST THING ABOUT SPOUSE: Palin: Tesoro Iron Dog Snowmobile race champion (longest snowmobile race in the world); In 2008, while defending his championship, was injured when he was thrown 70 feet from his machine. He was sent to the hospital but still finished in fourth place Obama: Sister of Oregon State University head basketball coach Craig Robinson
MOST COURAGEOUS MOMENT IN PUBLIC SERVICE: Palin: Resigned in protest from position of Ethics Commissioner of Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in order to expose legal violations and conflicts of interest of Alaska Republican leaders, including the former state Attorney General and the State GOP Chairman (who was also an Oil & Gas Commissioner), who was doing work for the party on public time and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail.
Obama: Gave an anti-Iraq war speech to a crowd of anti-Iraq war demonstrators in Hyde Park in 2002
IN CURRENT OFFICE BECAUSE…
Palin: Upset sitting Governor in GOP primary due to public support for her efforts to clean up corrupt government establishment
Obama: Republican opponent, who was leading in the polls, was forced to leave race after unsealing of divorce records exposed a sex scandal
THEME: Palin: Change and Clean Government
Obama: Hope and Change; “Bringing Change from Outside Washington ”
WHAT THEY’VE DONE TO LIVE THAT THEME:
Palin: Replaced entire Board of Agriculture and Conservation because of conflict of interest;
Resigned from position of Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in order to expose corruption among members of own party
Obama: Selected 36-year incumbent Senator as running mate
FAMILY AFFAIRS: Palin: May have removed State Public Safety Commissioner as part of effort to protect sister in messy divorce and child custody battle
Obama: Often says, “I am my brother’s keeper”; Brother lives in a hut in Nairobi on $12 per year
UNION AFFILIATION: Palin: Union member, married to Union member
Obama: Endorsed by a union
IRAQ AND TROUP SUPPORT: Palin: Formerly (pre-surge) critical of apparent lack of long-term strategy for Iraq ; Visited wounded U.S. soldiers in Germany ; visited AK National Guard soldiers deployed to Kuwait ; Son deploying to Iraq on 9/11/08 as Army infantryman
Obama: Gave an anti-Iraq war speech to a crowd of anti-Iraq war demonstrators;
almost visited wounded troops in Germany , but decided to go shopping in Berlin instead
BIPARTISAN/”MAVERICK”CREDENTIALS:
Palin: Married to a non-Republican; Exposed corruption within own party; Campaigned for Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell against corrupt GOP congressman Don Young; Called out Sen Ted Stevens (R-AK) to “come clean” about financial dealings that are under fed investigation
Obama: Talks about bipartisanship
LEGISLATIVE RECORD: Palin: Passed a landmark ethics reform bill; Used veto to cut budgetary spending; Prevented “bridge to nowhere” that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.
Obama: Voted “present” over 100 times as IL state senator
HOW THEY DEALT WITH CORRUPT INDIVIDUALS IN HOME CITY/SATE: Palin: Exposed legal violations and conflicts of interest of Alaska Republican leaders;
Campaigned against corrupt GOP Representative;
Ran against and defeated corrupt incumbent governor in GOP primary
Obama: Launched political career in home of unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers (and still refers to him as a part of “mainstream Democratic Chicago”; Purchased home with help of convicted felon Tony Rezko
GUNS: Palin: Lifetime member of NRA and avid hunter; video can be found on YouTube of Palin firing an M4 at a military firing range
Obama: Worked to pass legislation in Illinois that would prevent all law-abiding citizens from owning firearms
EARMARKS: Palin: Opposed “Bridge to Nowhere” project; Said Alaska should avoid relying on federal money for projects; Campaigned against porker Don Young (R-AK) in 2008 primary
Obama: Secured federal earmarks for wife’s employer and for campaign bundlers
ABORTION: Palin: Pro life; gave birth to 5th child knowing that he would have Down’s syndrome
Obama: Pro-choice; only IL state sen. to speak against the Born Alive Infant’s Protection Act, which required medical care to be given to live infants who survived abortions
ENERGY: Palin: Believes energy independence is a matter of national security; For drilling in ANWR, which is in her state
Obama: Says Americans should “get tune-ups” and “check tire pressure”;
Says “we can’t expect the world to be okay with” our use of heating and air conditioning
ENVIORNMENT: Palin: Chair of Alaska Conservation Commission (2003-2004); Announced plans to create sub-cabinet group of advisors to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions in AK
Obama: Talks about the environment a lot
ATHLETIC PROWESS: Palin: Runs marathons
Obama: Has reporters tailing him to the gym
You people are just as freaking scary. You care nothing about America- just your christian world domination. You are the terrorists America needs to worry about.
Dems said that Bush was going to be the most disasterous president in history. But you wanted CHANGE for family values. Bull. Clinton left the country stable and in good shape and republican destroyed it- if you didn’t like what Bush was doing you sure couldn’t tell from all your defending of his policies.
YOU have ruined America in every way shape and form.
And once again trying to tie Ayers in with Obama hasn’t worked yet now has it- unless you’ve got some solid proof that they were such buddies- bring it. You know the argument is bogus.
You all prayed for Bush to win- now perhaps God himself is trying to tell you something.
Outlander- you obviously didn’t read the link- because you’ll see quite clearly that her family DID attend.
P.M., lay off the kook juice and turn that frown upside down! ;)
Come on, P-Mom!
Your head can’t possibly that far up your butt!
The connection between Bill Ayers is a proven fact. The dems just think it’s OK to harbor a terrorist!
Don’t you love how much Republicans can blame the
Democrats for our problems when they have been in
control of Congress for 18 months while they were
in control for 13 years and 7 of those years they
were also in control of the White House. It is also
telling that they are keeping Palin away from unscripted situations. If she is so great she should
be able to handle things. Or are they hiding her radical side till its too late.
Every cent of the money going to the Freddie/Fanny bailout is a subsidy for people who own debt on bad loans made on inflated real estate. It is a protection for those who scrambled to cash in on a bubble. It is a direct transfer of billions if not trillions of dollars from working people, to the very richest people in this country, who leveraged the FDIC insured savings of every single working family in America to purchase the bad debt in the first place. I would much rather the government use those billions and maybe trillions to reimburse account holders in failed banks, rather than propping up the banks themselves. And it would be much cheaper. Instead, we will get a vast transfer of federal wealth to the very richest people in the country, most of whom dumped their Freddie/Fanny stock months ago, or made further billions on the huge swings in Freddie/Fanny stock prices, as the vulture’s shadow fell, and then passed.
The sad part is that not one foreclosure is going to be forestalled, not one family will be allowed to keep their home, not one debt will be adjusted to realistic levels. Instead, The debts and bad paper will be guaranteed by the U.S. Government at a cost equal to if not greater than the Iraq war, and with money that could be used to rebuild our energy system, every rusty bridge in the nation, and every classroom. Money that could be used to put every American to work rebuilding the country. It is sick, sick, sick, and instructive, as the Democrats too are behind it. If Freddie/Fanny failed, the only people hurt would be those who bought the repackaged debt. Our meager accounts are insured, now apparently, so too, is a trillion or two in bad debt.
This can go only so far. Just remember your government has just declared war – on your children. The wonderful irony in all of this is that eventually, it will be the rich who will be fleeced to the bone to pay the debt, as they will be the only ones left with the means.
biased1
Posted September 8, 2008 at 8:14 am | Permalink
Maggotpunk
Posted September 8, 2008 at 6:28 am | Permalink
Palin took a city with no debt, reduced taxes on the rich, increased sales taxes, and left the city with a $22 million debt. Yup, she’s another George Bush.
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one MORE thing she “left the city” with……
an 80% approval rating
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I thought Republicans did not govern on poll ratings? Wasn’t that the mantra during Bush’s dismal approval ratings?
What I find interesting about Palin’s term as mayor is the report that she pushed through this project of building an ice rink on land that was not legally the city’s? There is some sort of litigation still going on years later.
What sort of smart executive would build an ice rink on land they don’t own?
Bull. Clinton left the country stable and in good shape.
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He raised our taxes and…
Spent more on education = raised drop out rates. Lowered test scores.
Spent more on sex eduction = raised teen pregnancy rates, Most stds in history, most abortions in history.
Spent more on Law enforcement = raised crime rates.
Spent more on drug education = raised teen drug abuse.
His taxes left us in a recession.
We were attacked at least four times by terrorists on his watch. HIS war on terror?
Bomb an asprin factory.
Never forget clinton caused 9/11.
Well because she wanted to play hockey there. Don’t you know- republicans don’t care about laws and ownership- they can’t even own their own failed policies. party of responsibility my ass.
Republicans are evil, and if 50% of America hasn’t figured that out by now and re-elect another republican- we deserve to lose everything.
bias- you’re an idiot.
mom- I thought Republicans did not govern on poll ratings? Wasn’t that the mantra during Bush’s dismal approval ratings?
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Congress approval rating….19%
Looks like the dumorats don’t govern on “poll ratings” either…
PS. They also have had to put up with filibustering by the Republicans when trying to get things done.
If you people truly love this country- and right now I dont’ think you do- you know that your party has caused destruction to everything our country stands for- YOU ARE HURTING PEOPLE.
Reform yourselves from the inside- don’t ask for a handout for a third chance to keep screwing up. Take responsibility for what you have done and think really hard about what you envision for America.
You know perhaps its time the Democrats attempt to change the legislation on the filibuster- just like republicans tried to do when Democrats filibustered IMPORTANT bills that should had been obstructed.
Remember that republicans?
P.M. is bitter, clinging to bigotry, kookiness, and Twinkies.
ANTI
Posted September 8, 2008 at 9:23 am | Permalink
P.M. is bitter, clinging to bigotry, kookiness, and Twinkies.
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and her credit cards….
Careful, ANTI!
I’m a proud member of the ‘bitter clinger’s’ club!
HLP
Posted September 8, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink
Careful, ANTI!
I’m a proud member of the ‘bitter clinger’s’ club!
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You should join us on the “bitter death-grip” side.
Obviously, they should do both, elect mccain and palin, and throw the republican bums that have been holding back the oountry out of the Senate and House!
Bet the morons can’t think that clealy.
We will validate your parking Hank….refreshments after every meeting…
“You people are just as freaking scary. You care nothing about America- just your christian world domination. You are the terrorists America needs to worry about.”
Labeling a large majority of Americans as terrorists (overlooking the group of people who actually are) is just one indicator that P-Mom is the one living in a surreal world.
The beauty of an open Democracy is that P-Mom’s crappy ideals can easily be identified and shoveled to their appropriate storage location.
Bush has just realizied the bad guys are in Pakistan!
http://www.alternet.org/rights/97939/?page=entire
“YOU ARE HURTING PEOPLE”
And you are surprised by this political mama?
Hurting people for fun and money is what the Republicans do. It is who they are.
The message at the convention from mccain was clear: When are you morons going to say enough and vote out my party?
I’ve had the same thoughts myself, Pathom. If the Democrats can take solid majorities in the Senate and House, and McCain wins the Presidential election, we may avoid the excesses of both parties. However, I think McCoCaine and Palin have peaked. I’ve retained a shred of belief that Americans can’t possibly be that stupid. I’ve also wondered at times if the whole thing isn’t just a show.
I do know now what the war in Iraq was all about. It was so the Iraqis could have a modern American-made airforce. http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Iraq-Seeks-F-16-Fighters-05057/
Do you suppose they’ll use the new planes to gas the Kurds?
If I were those Kurds, I’d be hooking up with Pooty-poo.
Poor Pmom. It must be awful to be filled with so much hate. Perhaps you could use some stress management. You can’t even have a civil conversation without your hatred showing it’s ugly head. Is this what the dimo’s have come to?
Poll anxiety, Sunflower. Do you really want a Pentacostal in the Whitehouse?
I would suggest that if the Republicans are so desperate to win that they will do anything, including putting a Pentacostal a heartbeat away from the presidency, then they should search their own hearts to find out where the hate lies.
The polss are indicating, that indeed Americans are that stupid, they just needed another idiot to motivate them.
However, I have underestimated the power of the right wing press. I haven’t listened to a single talk radio show for five years, nor have I seen the fox cable news channel for eight.
You folks could promote a pancake into the second coming.
Yeah it is not much getting out that Sarah Palin is a holy roller.
I’m really hoping we get some video of her speaking in tongues, rolling around on the floor and barking at the moon.
Hmm, but the cons would probably think that was hot.
beber=nutjob
peepee_mom=nuttier
beejay=nuttiest (bordering on troll)
chas=troll
The GOP isn’t the cure for anything except getting rich people richer.
Read “The Wrecking Crew” by Thomas Frank for detailed analysis of how conservative both grow government AND destroy it for fun and profit.
Mccain’s face should’ve been on the ball.
“I’m really hoping we get some video of her speaking in tongues, rolling around on the floor and barking at the moon.
That would get them aroused, for sure.
It’s wouldn’t phaze or jar support at all.
biased = biased.
BlueJay
Posted September 8, 2008 at 10:17 am | Permalink
The GOP isn’t the cure for anything except getting rich people richer.
Read “The Wrecking Crew” by Thomas Frank for detailed analysis of how conservative both grow government AND destroy it for fun and profit.
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How much is Frank paying you BJ, or do you just like poo on your nose?
If she starts talking about her beliefs and starts shaking and quaking, it’ll solidify her base!
Phatom- That would get them aroused, for sure.
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As aroused as (you) the libtards got seeing the One in a turban?
Let me find that Crowson drew that put Obama in a bad light…
Hmmm, doesn’t appear to be here…
I wonder…
“. . .including putting a Pentacostal [sic] a heartbeat away from the presidency,. . .”
LOL!
First of all, most Americans don’t have a problem with Pentecostals. Second, ‘heartbeat away’ is one of last week’s DNC talking points. Try and keep up.
er Crowson Cartoon…
(slurps coffee)
I do hope she gets asked about Alaska- the End Times Refuge beliefs.
Hell, population of Alaska would probably increase dramatically.
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Pmom this is the source for your hatchet job on Palins church. Why can’t you think for yourself? Is your mind a sieve where any crap can just filter in?
And by the way what is the lefts obsessioin about Sarah Palins personal faith. Don’t you guys believe in freedom of religion? I’ve never heard her mention it but you guys do several times a day.
BTW McCain is the head of the GOP ticket not Palin.
OMG, some things never change.
And yes, the american voters really ARE that stupid. Seems like I’ve been saying that since at least April of 05.
We get the government we deserve.
How’s that working for kansas?
Heheheheheheheh.
Y’all ought to take a break for two weeks or so. When you come back you realize…SSDD.
Wingnuts are gonna vote for wingnutty republicans. Progressives will hold their noses and vote for democrats, or stay home. NO matter what. Logic and truth have nothing to do with it.
And yes, I really am that cynical. Vacation hasnt improved that one damn bit.
Oh and Sol? I wont torture you with what I’ve been eating.. heheheheheheheeheheh!
Oh and remember, the Rachael Maddow Show premiers tonight on MSNBC. I stopped watching them after their treatment of Hillary, but… Rachael… um… well…
A girl’s gotta dream, eh?
Hey farm girl!
How’s the new puppy?
The world according to grmie….
Wingnut blogs and sources = good
Liberal blogs and sources = bad
And hell, MOST of the time she uses no sources, says some vague, “I heard it on TV” (one assumes fux network) or just makes shit up outa thin air.
SSDD. The blog characters never change.
And no, I dont believe in freedom of religion anymore. You all godly nut cases abused your priveledges. Let’s ban all religion except for those of you who quietly practice it in the closet.
I dont mind religion if you just dont show it in public. Some of us think that’s “throwing it in our faces”.
Irony. It really is lost on those who most need to see it…
Hey, Sunflower.
Why did you lie about the Democratic candidate for School Board in District 8?
He’s never made a penny despite the time and effort he put in to the help he’s given the State School board.
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ksfarmgrrl
Posted September 8, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink
The world according to grmie….
Wingnut blogs and sources = good
Liberal blogs and sources = bad
And hell, MOST of the time she uses no sources, says some vague, “I heard it on TV” (one assumes fux network) or just makes shit up outa thin air.
SSDD. The blog characters never change.
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Actually, most of the MSM TV networks are fairly reliable as long as they don’t put their own spin on it.
Liberal Websites have been proven to be consistently wrong. Don’t use them, unless you want to continue to look like a doltish sheep.
the irony of irony is that it couldn’t exist without those who don’t understand irony. That’s what’s ironic about it.
If you want to cut through the hype and see whose tax plan would benefit you go to:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411750
Phantom see the post for Pmom about Alternet. You guys need to find better sources. Doesn’t it make you feel used when the left MSM manipulates you like that.
Last night I attempted to have a civil conversation with Chas. He responded:
“Chas
Posted September 7, 2008 at 11:23 pm | Permalink
“Chas you have the right to believe anything you want about Rev Wright. I have that same right. Sorry I don’t agree with your view. That doesn’t make me a liar. It just means I have a different opinion.” [okobserver]
It makes you a LIAR when your opinion is not true, and has been debunked numerous times… including many times on this Blog… Yet you hang on to your FALSE statements….
Yea, I’d say that makes you a LIAR!!
http://www.trinitychicago.org
That web site pretty much PROVES what I am saying… but you wont read it…. But, maybe others will, and find out the truth… Some people…. even millions…. believe FALSE notions… That doesnt make them right because they believe them…
Stuff like, we didnt really go to the moon; the earth is flat; the world is only 6-8,000 years old…. People of God shouldnt use electricity or other “modern” conveniences… Lots of people (different groups) believe all of those things… Doesnt make them RIGHT…. just means they believe them…. LOL
And yea, I know…. I am just banging my head against a brick wall… BUT…. in the case of Dr. Jeremiah Wright… I KNOW that I am 100% right…. I have met the man… I know the man…. I have listened to his COMPLETE sermons…. not just 10 second sound bytes….
Can you say the same???
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Linda since Chas is a friend of yours will you give him your little talk about opinions. I can have mine and you can have yours and he can have his. If we don’t agree then none of us are liars.
I do get a little tired of the left calling people liars.
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Glad to see Crowson is walking in lock step with the other Editors.
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beber
Posted September 8, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink
the irony of irony is that it couldn’t exist without those who don’t understand irony. That’s what’s ironic about it.
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The irony of the “irony of irony” is that most Libs don’t realize they are being taken for a ride.
It’s like one of those “gambling sting” movies where the hustler out hustles the original hustler which had originally hustled the less than honorable clientele.
“.including putting a Pentacostal [sic][sic] a heartbeat away from the presidency,. . .”
– HLP
Pmom now as you can see from the post of Chas’ that I just posted – he is using his religion to try to intimindate me. I am getting a little tired of the leftist fundys doing this every day.
” Don’t use them, unless you want to continue to look like a doltish sheep”
How funny that we were just talking about irony. Look like doltish sheep?
To whom? Wingnuts? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pot, meet kettle.
And Hank, my little girls is the finest dog ever. I’m completely besotted and in love with her.
She almost has me trained…
RFL spins, “Labeling a large majority of Americans as terrorists . . . ”
A majority of Americans do self-define as Christians. I do, in fact.
However, I know P-Mom isn’t talking about me. She’s talking about the people who want to merge religion with government and have a state-sponsored theocracy, with their version of “Christianity” enshired as the politically correct one.
So you are right, RFL, that a majority define themselves as Christian in the US. But you are wrong, and you know it, to pretend that P-Mom’s condemnation was directed at all of them.
It was directed at the Falwells, the Hagees, the Robertsons, and the Swaggerts who want to take America back to 1692 and burn witches.
“I do get a little tired of the left calling people liars.”
Ya know, there is a REALLY easy way to fix that.
Stop lying.
“So you are right, RFL, that a majority define themselves as Christian in the US. But you are wrong, and you know it, to pretend that P-Mom’s condemnation was directed at all of them.”
Heh, well, ya know though, only the wingnuttiest of them get to define who’s a REAL christian. Let one of them do something insane, and the Greek Chorus will quickly chant “(Blank) isnt a REAL christian”.
Pardon us on the outside for being confused. You all look the same in the dark.
More irony.
KFG- It’s not lying, it’s just adjusting the truth; sorta’ fine tuning it.
Regular, your government just gave away another trillion today; whose being taken for a ride? Looks to me like we all are. Except for the upper ten percent.
sigh. who’s.
Maggot
The Trade Deficit is, actually, going down.
A lower dollar DOES help us export more products.
A lower dollar DOES help slow our imports — including oil.
By the way, a large part of our Trade Deficit is Oil!
Drill HERE Drill NOW!
Heheheh Gster.
If Palin starts speaking in tongues, the fundies will just be amazed that she’s also bilingual.
What breed is your dog, KGrrl?
Most people that hold money in large mutual funds lost money today, as they hold fannie and freddie investments.
Farmie good to see you back. JR was feeling all alone last week and kept telling everyone that when you got back you would take care of them.
You should be careful of the labels you throw around. And as for sources Alternet said it all for themselves. I just used their own info to educate the masses.
As for being a liar. Well I rest my case with my posts. They speak for themselves. You are however allowed to draw your own conclusions. IMOHO
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beber
Posted September 8, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink
Regular, your government just gave away another trillion today; whose being taken for a ride? Looks to me like we all are. Except for the upper ten percent.
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Yeah, what give away would that be, the debt? The debt that has grown steadily since year one, regardless of who was in office?
Try again weak sister.
Franklin still spinning that supply side crap that if we increase supply, it will magically reduce prices?
Jesus wept. Some things never change, but I dont have the time or inclination to school you supply siders.
Again.
I have tacos to eat, music to hear, tequila to swill, and beautiful women to watch. I just LOVE Austin!
adios.
Franklin lies, “a lower dollar DOES help us slow our imports–including oil.”
Nevermind that about 1 dollar of the roughly 4 that we pay for a gallon of gas is actually from the devaluation cost of the dollar, heigh ho . . .
Hi Captain! She’s a Weim-Lab mix, but I think she has a little German Shorthair in her from somewhere.
She’s nine weeks old and HELD a point yesterday!
Mama’s girl! I see dove and pheasant in our future…
Political_mama
Posted September 8, 2008 at 8:02 am | Permalink
So yeah- since you supported him you should have to feel it in your pocketbook. Stop whining about it.
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Look’s like you’re paying too. Funny how when dems wish misfortune on others, they end up wishing it on themselves too. You getting use to P_Mom? btw-I clearly showed you that it was your democratic congress that doubled the gasoline price since they took over in 2006. Of course, they had to raise the price so that they would have something Obama could win on.
“KFG- It’s not lying, it’s just adjusting the truth; sorta’ fine tuning it.
”
By the way, Dick Cheney approves this message, so you KNOW it’s OK. He invented it!
“Mama’s girl! I see dove and pheasant in our future…”
Christ, I guess that makes me vice presidential material now?
Except I attend the “Church of the What’s Happenin’ NOW”.
Google Flip Wilson for those too young to understand…
“It was directed at the Falwells, the Hagees, the Robertsons, and the Swaggerts who want to take America back to 1692 and burn witches.”
-Capn
I wouldn’t identify with any of those people. Even so, One can clearly see a REEEEACCCH!
Those people want to start burning witches? Okay, sure Capn.
Hyperbolizing against “christians” however which way you choose you define them does nothing to help your cause. But keep going down that dead end road if it makes you feel better.
Even MSNBC can see the writing on the wall!
Olberman and Mathews got CANNED by the MOST pro-Obama station on TV!
ChrisfromMacTown lies, “In 2006, a lot of republicans lost their seats to democrats who were considered conservative.”
WRONG!
They lost their seats to Democrats who were considered Democratic, mainly because THANK GOD they weren’t RepubliCONs.
Get used to it.
BJ
Obama voted IN FAVOR of the last Energy bill.
McCain voted AGAINST the last Energy bill.
Yeah, they didn’t get canned, Franklin.
They got passed over for anchor slots for the debates.
But way to prove once again that you sir, are a liar.
One More Time >>>>
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/profile.html
“Hyperbolizing”
Heheheheh. I think it’s just telling the truth!
And ya know, even WE couldnt make this stuff up. Like Dobson, the most anti gay man in America, suggesting that young boys need to shower with grown men to see what real men they will become.
Heheh. HAHAHAH HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEEEEEEEE….
Fiction wouldnt be half as funny as Falwell and Robertson blaming gays for Katrina and the WTC disaster.
Yucking it up. Ya just cant beat the truth for funny, in a tragic kinda way, stuff.
Jerry Falwell said that NOW (the National Organization of Women) is “the National Organization of Witches.”
Religious wackos like Hagee and Robertson routinely blame natural disasters on “gays” and “abortion.”
So, if they aren’t doing the burning, it’s only because American law prevents them . . . at present, that is . . .
So can anyone tell me why the wingnut republicans, are so successful in blocking legislation no matter if they are IN the majority or OUT of the majority?
Are they just that good? Or are democrats just that bad?
Or does it really matter when they are ALL owned by the same people?
And served by the folks like Franklin?
I lump all TV evangelists in the same pot. Learned very early not to take stock in anything they say.
Accountability begins at home and should stay there and not lose sight of the goals. Not one of the goals is lining the pockets of TV evangelists.
And yeah, I understand about vetos and slim majorities, yadda yadda yadda.
I just think democrats need to rethink this whole “we’re not bush” strategy for winning elections. Or losing them as the case may be.
I wonder if the freakin’ DEMOCRATS care if two more wingnuts get appointed and lock up SCOTUS.
They are doing their DAMNDEST to see that mcsame gets to make those appointments.
And.. btw… WHERE is Donald Betts?
KGrrl–
You’re dog isn’t a Weimaraner, is it?
I was late feeding my dog (Weim) the other morning, and it started nudging me and opening and shutting its jaws in a chewing motion.
It was telling me that “it was time to eat” in dog sign-language.
Now that’s a smart dog. Scary smart.
Four men were bragging about how smart their dogs are.
The first man was an engineer, the second was an accountant, the third a chemist, and the fourth was a government worker.
To show off, the engineer called to his dog. “T-Square, do your stuff.” T-Square trotted over to the desk, took out some paper and promptly drew a circle, a square, and a triangle. Everyone agreed that was pretty smart.
But the accountant said his dog could do better. He called his dog and said, “Spreadsheet, do your stuff.” Spreadsheet went out into the kitchen and returned with a dozen cookies. He divided them into four equal piles of three cookies each. Everyone agreed that was good.
But the chemist said his dog could do better. He called his dog and said, “Measure, do your stuff.” Measure got up, walked over to the fridge, took out a quart of milk, got a 10 ounce glass from the cupboard and poured exactly 8 ounces without spilling a drop! Everyone agreed that was good.
Then the three men turned to the government worker, and said, “What can your dog do?”
The government worker called to his dog and said, “Coffee Break, “do your stuff.” Coffee Break slowly got on his feet, ate the cookies, drank the milk, crapped on the paper, sexually assaulted the other three dogs, claimed he injured his back while doing so, filed a grievance report for unsafe working conditions, put in for workers’ compensation, and went home for the rest of the day on sick leave.
Pmom
You have stated a false rumor as a FACT!
McCain IS baptised.
However, it was not a “full emersion” baptism.
I heard Donald Betts speak Sunday, Grrl.
Where were you?
Yeah Captain. My baby is scary smart, as are the other FOUR big weims who live here. My friends and I only exist to serve them. I got her from Weim Rescue of Texas. She’s just too cute for words.
I’m glad to hear that Captain. I’m in Austin right now, but I sure havent seen anything about the Betts campaign in the online WE.
Just wondering.
GO DONALD!
RE: “it started nudging me and opening and shutting its jaws in a chewing motion”
When I was in the National Guard guys stated doing the same thing. I finally figured out they were looking for their next glob of chewing tobacco!
Definitely the nastiest habit on the planet!
Is Joe Scarborough–the former Republican congressman–still going to be “moderating” the debates?
Neither Tweety nor Olbermann pretended at objectivity, but if we’re going to clean house. . .
Mccain’s new ad shows picture of Bart(john)and Bretta(Sarah) Maverick, claiming ‘She stopped the bridge to nowhere’, Biden will eat her lunch when they debate and he disects her alledged reforming.
As will obama when he debates mccain.
Sun streaking cold
The old man wanders lonely
Taking time the only way
He knows
Leg hurts him bad
As he bends to pick a dog-end
He’s goes down to the bog
And warms his feet.
Hey, Aqualung . . .
Reporting on, my bad.
Welcome back to the nuthouse farmgrrl. Did appreciate this comment:
“Greek Chorus will quickly chant ‘(Blank) isnt a REAL christian’”.
That one is almost as good as Heckler’s from way thread:
“The problem is that under Bush too many Republicans in congress said to hell with the conservative principle of smaller government.” AKA in its shorter form – ‘conservative government has never been tried!’
Some things just do not change. Taking a stab at discussing a real issue of real importance to middle class citizens (as well as others) note this comparison of the Obama and McCain approach to taxation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/07/AR2008090701950.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Can we afford 4 more years of Bush?
“I just think democrats need to rethink this whole “we’re not bush” strategy for winning elections.”
Ya think?
I personally hope they ride this hores all the way down to the ground.
They will lose unless they can provide original ideas that serve to show they can actually strengthen and lead America.
Mudslinging the Bush name does nothing for them. But hey, they thought it would work, let them eat cake!
Crowson – keep peddlin that DemUnderground crap, cause you gotta lotta Leftist Socialist Libs who will eat that garbage.
“But the GOP has controlled the federal government for most of the past eight years.”
The Dems have controlled Congress for nearly 2 years – What Have They Done Lately?
WORST CONGRESS EVER!!!
Lowest Approval Ratings in History!!!
Chas- You support a biggoted, racist, anti american pastor, that has bastardized the baptist church.
Fact.
“Neither Tweety nor Olbermann pretended at objectivity, but if we’re going to clean house. . .”
mr. dead intern needs to go. NOW. Jesus WEPT. At least Imus was funny. These guys in the morning? Not so much.
Live broadcast of McCain/Palin available on the Kansas.com web page.
Heh Steven. When you leave the blog for a while and then come back, the obvious is so clear!
Libs
We had great economic success for most of Bush’s term.
This, in spite of the fact that Bush entered office during the Clinton recession, and the fact that we were attacked on 9-11.
Over an 8 year period of time, there is almost always AT LEAST one recession or slow down.
socialist libs hahaha
What administration took over fannie and freddie
welcome the the republicists
biased1
Posted September 8, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink
Chas- You support a biggoted, racist, anti american pastor, that has bastardized the baptist church.
Fact.
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Chas claims to have known Wright, as well as Jim Jones.
Nice crowd there. (The Guyana group sorta died out though.)
Thanks Franklin for that well thought-out, partisan-free economic analysis. Makes me feel a lot better and now I am not one whit concerned that the Federal Government had to take over Freddie and Fanny to keep them from going bust. Good management of the economy, rainbows on every horizon, and it sure smells sweet in this country as one in 10 homeowners are at risk of losing their home.
The Dems have controlled Congress for nearly 2 years – What Have They Done Lately?
You sell someone a car that hasn’t been tuned up or oil-changed in 6 years, is low on oil etc. Ir runs like crap and is obviously in need of some serious attention.
But, being a good neighbor, you spy on the guy you sold it to (after all, you’re not gonna let him make you look silly), and, every time he tries to do some basic maintenance, you drag out your shotgun, point it at him and scream “Oh no you don’t!” Being a wuss, that’s enough for him–he doesn’t like guns. Hell, he know you’re nuts–you might even shoot the engine.
So nothing happens.
Yeah, you’re absolutely right, Max. Blame the Democrats.
Actually Annie,
It was the current Dem Congress that passed the law creating the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) this year, legalizing the Government takeover of Fannie & Freddie.
BOTH Parties are in on this deal, a very short-term solution to get them thru the November elections.
It will cost the Taxpayers Trillions of dollars in the Long-Run.
The Dems have controlled Congress for nearly 2 years – What Have They Done Lately?
WORST CONGRESS EVER!!!
Lowest Approval Ratings in History!!!
Nearly all of mccain’s officials are lobbyist, but yet the public believes he’s a Maverick beholden to no one. Stupidity has no bounds.
Put as simply as possible, anyone with enough common sense to come in from the rain knows that the type of systemic problems we’re seeing now–the virtual meltdown of our economic system– sure as hell didn’t start in January 2007, or October 2007 (the first fiscal year budget actually created with significant Democratic input).
It seems to some, nothing short of Republicans ruling supreme in total absence of an extinct opposition party is really being in charge.
Don’t dismiss the fact that Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard– consider this.
Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
As governor of Alaska , Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden’s and certainly by far exceeds Obama’s.
She’s also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a Federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security’s counterterrorism plans.
Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country’s defense. Given Alaska ’s proximity to Russia , she may have security clearances we don’t even know about.
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is.
Head the mccain/palin crowd chanting Sarah,Sarah, for a moment I thought it was Jerry Springer on the tube.
Another thing, how stupid are people to listen to the identical statements that palin/mccain have been making since the convention and responding like it is the first time they’ve heard it. And, the other candidate or spouse standing close by responds in kind.
Too damn phoney, or stupid, for words.
Equally simply put, what we saw under George W. Bush was Reaganomics taken to its logical extreme, and with no Soviet Union or a genuine opposition party (thanks to 9-11 subservience) to curb neocon fantasies of American empire.
And to anyone who was awake over the past 30 years, the results were dismally predictable.
Don’t forget when the Ruskies invade, Sarah’s the firs line of defense!
The Dems have controlled Congress for nearly 2 years – What Have They Done Lately?
. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden’s and certainly by far exceeds Obama’s.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! I love it!
I ask a simple question and all I hear are excuses and ridiculous metaphors.
Sounds about like Obama, only dumber.
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 8, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink
The Dems have controlled Congress for nearly 2 years – What Have They Done Lately?
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Pelosi bought a new purse.
On August 29, 2008, Republican Presidential nominee, John McCain, announced Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska as his
VP running mate. That selection has trumped and checkmated the Obama-Biden ticket.
Coming the day after Obama’s historic acceptance speech at the Democratic convention, which speech and Obama’s earlier pick of Joe Biden as his own VP running mate, were expected to be the top news item leading into the Republican convention the following week, McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin however completely eclipsed those events.
In less than 24 hours, Obama’s day in the sun had been come under a cloud of shadow and was relegated to history being completely upstaged by the Palin choice. The news cycles have talked about nothing else since in terms of the presidential politics.
The choice by McCain has stunningly energized the conservative base of the Republican party, an important segment McCain had his own problems with. But by choosing Palin, a staunch conservative, he has revitalized his commitment and perception in that area. Many conservatives who had relegated themselves to simply voting against Obama, are now more than willing to for “for” Palin.
The choice also reached out directly to independents and disaffected Democratic voters, particularly women, who were so sorely disappointed by Hillary Clinton’s narrow loss and the way they had been treated since Obama sealed the nomination. Particularly in overlooking Hillary Clinton, who won 18 million votes in the primaries, and actually had more votes than Obama, those disaffected women are also excited about Palin, and indicating by the tens of thousands on blogs and disaffected Hillary voter sites on the web that they intend to cross over and vote for her and McCain.
The Obama campaign and DNC, curiously, have already launched all out attacks against the choice and Palin herself, indicating that she does not have enough executive or national experience.
Excuse me? She does not have enough executive experience?
A simple analysis of the relative experience levels of Sarah Palin compared to either Democratic candidate puts this to rest. For over the past decade, Sarah Palin has been involved in executive decision making at increasing levels of elected positions of public trust. Obama has no executive experience, Biden has no executive experience. During that time, Palin left off running an actual private business in Alaska , a commercial fishing business and was elected to her city council and then, in quick order to be Mayor of her home town. She did so well there that she was ultimately elected to be Governor of the State of Alaska , managing 17,000 personnel and a 9 billion dollar budget. Obama and Biden have absolutely no comparable experience at all, neither of them.
Beyond all of this, there is also a part of Sarah Palin that most hard working, patriotic, and committed Americans are coming to adore about her. She is real. She is authentic. Not only has she stood up to corrupt politics and the old networks that have produced so much waste, fraud, and “bridges to nowhere”, she is also a regular person, and authentic all-American girl, wife, mother, and citizen.
She has actually walked the walk of reform and change instead of just talking about it.
She does not come from privilege, did not aspire to it, or become placed in it. She did not attend the Ivy League or prestigious schools. She has gotten to where she is by pure honesty, integrity, and strength of charachter and has been raising five kids and enjoying life while doing so.
All of this drives the leftist and anti-American crowd mad. Sarah Palin is the real deal. Young, refreshing, committed wife, mother, American citizen.. She is the real deal when it comes to the change that is so much needed in American politics, particularly in Washington . John McCain must be congratulated for vetting her, seeing this, and putting her on the national stage.
She represents in fact, and in her own actions, what so many others (including Obama and the entrenched Biden) only talk about, and then go on with business as usual.
Obama, in his own actions and positions as a State Senator (voted merely present so many time in the State Senate, but voted no defending the Born Alive Abortion Protection Act there), in his own actions and positions as a US Senator (spent only 144 days on the job before beginning his campaign for the President, but in those short days was recognized as the Senator with the furthest left record), and particularly in his own willful associations of long standing with hateful, racists individuals like Jeremiah Wright (who preached “Not God bless American, No, No, No, God Damn America!) to Obama and his children, and with the likes of Bill Ayers, the unrepentant, arrogant, and militantly anti-American political connection where Obama kicked off his own political career, who bomber the US Pentagon, the US Capitol, and NY City Polic Headquarters and then claimed in an interview published on 911 that his only regreet was that he had not done enough…no with such actions and such associations (npot to mention TOni Rezco, Pleger, and others), Obama has proven that his change is precisely the type we do not want or need in Washington.
CHOOSING THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
http://www.jeffhead.com/nextpres.htm
Dow’s gain pares to half, nasdaq flat.
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Rage
Posted September 8, 2008 at 11:57 am | Permalink
. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden’s and certainly by far exceeds Obama’s.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! I love it!
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Most likely true. I’ve seen briefing packages prepared for Politicians (Congressman) and the Pentagon/President.
The one for Politicians are largely absent of details and specifics. Loose lips abound in Congress and quite frankly, they are are not well trusted.
Those in the chain of command, making direct decisions like the President, Pentagon and even Governors get to know the real deals. They get the nitty and the gritty.
Sarah, the Girl Next Door, just what America needs to lead it.
You might marry the girl next door, you don’t make her president.
Steven,
I think our asian overlords were looking for 500 billion in loan garuntees [my best cajun accent].
Maxie if that’s what you need to sleep at night go for it.
I’m sure if McCain is elected phil gramm will give us more of the same. He’s being touted as future treasury czar…
Good job free market kapitalists!!!!!!!!
Most likely true.
Uhm, right. I’ll give that statement all the credibility it deserves.
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Rage
Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:06 pm | Permalink
Most likely true.
Uhm, right. I’ll give that statement all the credibility it deserves.
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It’s true because of regulations. One prepares a briefing differently to someone who is not in the chain of command (a congressman) than they do for someone who is in the chain of command and has the need to know.
It’s just a fact of military protocol. Deal with it. :)
Actually Anus,
It was the current Dem Congress that passed the law creating the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) this year, legalizing the Government takeover of Fannie & Freddie.
BOTH Parties are in on this deal, a very short-term solution to get them thru the November elections.
It will cost the Taxpayers Trillions of dollars in the Long-Run.
So Anus Moose,
The Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac Buyout could not have happend without your Dem Congress passing the law that created the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) this year!
Congratulations on your advancement of your Socialist Cause!
Phantub- Nearly all of mccain’s officials are lobbyist.
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News flash!
Nearly all of Joe Bidens sons are lobbyist….
It’s true because of regulations. One prepares a briefing differently to someone who is not in the chain of command (a congressman) than they do for someone who is in the chain of command and has the need to know.
For your information, governors are not in the chain of command. When the National Guard is called into service of the United States, governor are have no authority over such operations.
And the notion that “loose lips” in Congress can’t be trusted may be George W. Bush’s policy, but it’s not democracy. Produce some evidence that Bush is briefing state governors on classified information on anything to the exclusion of elected national representatives and I might start to take your crap seriously.
But that will, of course, provide yet another compelling reason to impeach Bush and Cheney.
Oh biased1 —- IF you could read, you would know that Dr. Wright isnt a Bptist!!
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/profile.html
http://www.trinitychicago.org
Reading is FUNdamental!!
Bush is YOUR guy.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?cl=9640027
All I know about the Fannie and Freddie debacle is the fact that the press has been completely silent.
(crickets chirping…)
Must be some pretty connected demorats involved, because if they discover any republican involvement…….
Rage
Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
But that will, of course, provide yet another compelling reason to impeach Bush and Cheney.
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How’s that workin out by the way?
OBAMA’S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS AND SUPPORT
What do each of the following individuals and organizations have in common?
http://www.jeffhead.com/obamacircle.htm
Thank’s maxie here’s what your side gives us common folk
Did you know that straight talkin mccain’s advisor phill gramm helped manufacture the mortgage crisis?
In 1999 he got the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act passed which repealed remaining provisions of the Glass Steagall Act.
The latter was the famous depression era reform bill that created the FDIC, allowed the government to regulate interest rates, and erected a wall of separation between investment banks and commercial banks. It had the effect of stabalizing markets and reducing speculation.
And look where we are now….
And this is just one of his busfull of lobbyists..
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink
Oh biased1 —- IF you could read, you would know that Dr. Wright isnt a Bptist!!
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And Chas (aka the Bigot)
If you knew Dr. Wright, you would also know that his father was a baptist minister. He took what he learned from his father and blended it with the radical beliefs of the likes of louie farrakahn and bastadized it with racism and bigotry…..
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Rage
Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
It’s true because of regulations. One prepares a briefing differently to someone who is not in the chain of command (a congressman) than they do for someone who is in the chain of command and has the need to know.
For your information, governors are not in the chain of command. When the National Guard is called into service of the United States, governor are have no authority over such operations.
And the notion that “loose lips” in Congress can’t be trusted may be George W. Bush’s policy, but it’s not democracy. Produce some evidence that Bush is briefing state governors on classified information on anything to the exclusion of elected national representatives and I might start to take your crap seriously.
But that will, of course, provide yet another compelling reason to impeach Bush and Cheney.
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May I suggest updating yourself a lot on Homeland Security.
You appear to be way behind.
The DUmmies are flipping out over the Gallup poll that has McCain up 10 points among “likely voters”.
Put on a hazmat suit and head over. It’s pretty funny.
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH – OBAMA IN HIS & HIS SUPPORTERS OWN WORDS
Barrack Hussein Obama is constantly having to clarify his positions, his associations, and his own words. He veils and hides who he really is behind platitudes, not very well thought out positions, and a media, rock-star blitz.
What follows are a number of youtube vidoes, many of them in Obama’s own words, and those of his close associates for over 20 years, and other supporters, which make clear who Obama is and what he reperesents:
http://www.jeffhead.com/obamayourtube.htm
Hey Libs
What is a “community organizer”??
Barrack Hussein Obama was recruited by White, Saul Alinsky Marxists, to recruit Black CHURCHES into political causes, and political races.
The White liberals were not making any progress, they needed a Black guy, they needed Obama.
Save me your “Seperation of Church and State” stuff!
Obama secured an “earmark” of Federal Funds, for Jeremiah Wright’s Church.
Obama secured an “earmark” of Federal Funds, for Father Pflegars church.
Just heard Kudlow shilling for mccain/paulin, when asked about the fannie freddie takeover he managed to insert drill, drill,drill and I’d take a page from palin…(more b.s).
Republicans actually think this guy’s an economist/guru!
Obama probably got the money for the churces under bush’s faith based iniative.
“Phantom
Posted September 8, 2008 at 11:04 am | Permalink
Most people that hold money in large mutual funds lost money today, as they hold fannie and freddie investments.”
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Probably not.
Fannie and Freddie shares have tanked, lately, anyway. Of more concern, to the market, were the DEBT securities issued by Fannie and Freddie.
Beyond that, Equity Mutual Funds are limited to holding no more than 5% of their total assets in any one stock.
Diversification argues against your prediction.
The female maverick wants to talk about earmarks, here’s what she should talk about:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080903/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_earmarks
Why are libs so quick to say “Liar Liar Pants on Fire”??
“MSNBC Drops Olbermann, Matthews as News Anchors
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 8, 2008; C01
MSNBC is removing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as the anchors of live political events, bowing to growing criticism that they are too opinionated to be seen as neutral in the heat of the presidential campaign.
David Gregory, the NBC newsman and White House correspondent who also hosts a program on MSNBC, will take over during such events as this fall’s presidential and vice presidential debates and election night.
The move, confirmed by spokesmen for both networks, follows increasingly loud complaints about Olbermann’s anchor role at the Democratic and Republican conventions. Olbermann, who regularly assails President Bush and GOP nominee John McCain on his “Countdown” program, was effusive in praising the acceptance speech of Democratic nominee Barack Obama. He drew flak Thursday when the Republicans played a video that included a tribute to the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that if the networks had done that, “we would be rightly eviscerated at all quarters, perhaps by the Republican Party itself, for exploiting the memories of the dead, and perhaps even for trying to evoke that pain again. If you reacted to that videotape the way I did, I apologize.”
Matthews, who has criticized politicians in both parties, drew less criticism for his convention role but became a divisive figure during the primaries when he described how he was inspired by Obama’s speeches and made disparaging remarks about Hillary Clinton, for which he later apologized.
In May, MSNBC President Phil Griffin said in an interview that during live events Olbermann and Matthews “put on different hats. I think the audience gets it. . . . I see zero problem.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090800008_pf.html
Olberman and Matthews were CANNED, as far as news reporting is concerned, PERIOD!
They tanked more, the holders are subordinate to the govt., they lost more money.
Their debt/stock is held manily by large mutuals.
Capn
Actually, you are wrong.
Pelosi wanted to be Speaker.
Therefore, Pelosi deliberately recruited Pro-Life, Pro Second Amendment CONSERVATIVE Democrats, to run 2 years ago.
This has a great deal to do with why Pelosi can not get anything done, today!
Her own Party is often against her.
Take this you kommie bas@ards
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
‘Palin hasn’t ordered Alaska National Guard to do anything‘
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/780734.html
“However, the governor has no command authority overseas or anywhere in the United States other than Alaska, said Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, the service commander of the Alaska National Guard.
“When members of the National Guard are federalized, they work for the president,” Campbell said Wednesday. “It’s not just overseas. They could be federalized to go to other states or they could even be federalized in the state.”
Occasions in which Palin retains command authority over the 4,200-member Alaska National Guard are whenever the Guard responds to in-state natural disasters and civic emergencies, said Campbell, who also serves as the commissioner of the state Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.”
Do you know what a Communist is?
Interesting dichotomy, If Mccain’s truly a Maverick running against the entrenched corrupt Republican party, why is the entrenched Republican Congressmen supporting him?
Hate to tell you this Annie, but most of the state polling data is from before the Republican convention.
Phantom- Good question/point.
I hope Gov. Palin gets properly programmed with the “party line” prior to her interview with ABC news later this week!
Both the common stock, first, and preferred stock, second, holders are going to be hurt pretty bad, at least to their positions in Fanny and Freddy.
The bondholders, or the “dept”, though are sitting pretty right now. The dept bonds have been secured by the Feds.
Those folks, I’m one, will not only not be hurt, but are now even in a better more secure position because that dept is now backed by the U.S government, not unlike Treasuries. The rate of return on that dept (the bonds) is higher than on Treasuries, and they now have approx. equal risk…supposedly none. That security and higher rate of return makes them nice.
Phantom
Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:52 pm | Permalink
Interesting dichotomy, If Mccain’s truly a Maverick running against the entrenched corrupt Republican party, why is the entrenched Republican Congressmen supporting him?
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I guess it’s sorta like running a “change” campaign and then choosing an ‘entrenched’ 35 year veteran of washington politics as your running mate.
Most recent State of emergency declaration I found for Alaska was in 2000 after an avalanche. Is that when Paling got her enviable experience as CIC of the guard? Enquiring minds want to know.
Obama’s strange bedfellows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfRb87dtY4&feature=related
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cosmos_originally
Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink
‘Palin hasn’t ordered Alaska National Guard to do anything‘
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/780734.html
“However, the governor has no command authority overseas or anywhere in the United States other than Alaska, said Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, the service commander of the Alaska National Guard.
“When members of the National Guard are federalized, they work for the president,” Campbell said Wednesday. “It’s not just overseas. They could be federalized to go to other states or they could even be federalized in the state.”
Occasions in which Palin retains command authority over the 4,200-member Alaska National Guard are whenever the Guard responds to in-state natural disasters and civic emergencies, said Campbell, who also serves as the commissioner of the state Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.”
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That’s nice cosmos.
How many military troops, national guard or other has Obama been in charge of?
I’ll wait.
They are capitalizing on Republican self hate.
If the Republicans win you will have to straighten out your own mess.
I’ll enjoy it either way.
Hi KFG I’ve missed you!
To all the neocons. You’re really hopeless.
Facts be damned- you’re going to do everything you can to drive this country into hell. I am seriously ready to just split the country in half- you take one side and libs can take the other.
Why does the One plan on continuing the “bush tax cuts?” and the “bush war?” He voted against both.
sounds like 4 more years of bush to me….
Annie
JOE BIDEN voted FOR the bill that you now criticize.
John McCain did not vote for that bill.
Try again.
Peepee_Mom- To all the neocons. You’re really hopeless.
Facts be damned- you’re going to do everything you can to drive this country into hell. I am seriously ready to just split the country in half- you take one side and libs can take the other.
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Didn’t you try to do that once already?
Don’t tell me this time you want the “North”….
Political_mama
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink
Hi KFG I’ve missed you!
To all the neocons. You’re really hopeless.
Facts be damned- you’re going to do everything you can to drive this country into hell. I am seriously ready to just split the country in half- you take one side and libs can take the other.
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Check the electoral college map from the last two elections.
Where are all the economic problems stemming from in particular?
RE: “Check the electoral college map from the last two elections.
Where are all the economic problems stemming from in particular?”
That would be Washington D.C.
Most of the Country still does not know about Rezco and Ayers.
Just wait!
Obama’s negatives are going to go up, not down.
Figured it out, it’s the whole born again psychology, the party is going to have its re-birth. Wonder if they’ll draft a new “Contract With America”, outlining all the radical reforms this time?
“Fannie and Freddie shares have tanked, lately, anyway. Of more concern, to the market, were the DEBT securities issued by Fannie and Freddie” — Franklin
In other words the bailout helps the very people who created the problem in the first place.
The libs push the government to do things that won’t work — like encouraging loans to bad credit risks.
Then, when the predictable happens, the libs blame Republicans!
Even though high powered Democrats have ALWAYS worked for, and been supported by, the mortgage industry.
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gster
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink
RE: “Check the electoral college map from the last two elections.
Where are all the economic problems stemming from in particular?”
That would be Washington D.C.
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Add Wall Street.
Speculative Housing Market
Speculative Petroleum Market
The Hollyfornian love affair with spend and tax
Unbridled credit card debts
the list goes on…
beber
Debt owners have no say, no vote, in the operation of a company.
Only the stockholders get to vote on anything.
The stockholders are taking a bath in this deal, as they should.
GOP does not control the house and senate.
They are the real power according to the constitution.
Don’t put the president on a pedestal. It gives the impression that he is ruler, like a king. He is just one part of the three branches.
Regular
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink
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gster
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink
RE: “Check the electoral college map from the last two elections.
Where are all the economic problems stemming from in particular?”
That would be Washington D.C.
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Add Wall Street.
Speculative Housing Market
Speculative Petroleum Market
The Hollyfornian love affair with spend and tax
Unbridled credit card debts
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Thank you for illustrating the point. Blue States for the most part.
Democrat Franklin Rains, took $52 MILLION during his employment.
Rains is a Clinton man.
So are the bond holders, even preferred bond holders, they’ve been subjugated.
Republicans tried to raise capital requirements for Freddie and Fannie.
Democrats in Congress stood in the way.
Question is, what will the new appointed bosses do different than the old bosses? Other than sell to the govt.
Phantom,
‘Palin hasn’t ordered Alaska National Guard to do anything‘
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/780734.html
I didn’t think so, but that won’t stop the talking heads or the ditto heads on this thread.
Franklin,
The point you miss is I’m a lib first, dem second. I don’t really care what Clinton or Biden does I vote for what I perceive as my own best self interest.
“Check the electoral college map from the last two elections.
Where are all the economic problems stemming from in particular?”
Mr_Kia,
Again, does no one answer you? Why, could it be because your comment goes straight to the heart of the problem, and they have NO argument possible.
You say more with fewer words than anyone on this blog. THANKS!!!
annie
I do not miss the point that you are a complete hypocrite.
The Democrat Party is up to its neck in sweetheart mortgage deals.
The Democrat Party has a revolving door between mortgage lenders, and politicians that leave office.
The Democrat Party pushed for “easy money” lending practices.
Now? Now when ANYTHING bad happens, anywhere, you want to blame it on Bush, or on Republicans!
Nobody misses that point.
annie_moose
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink
I vote for what I perceive as my own best self interest.
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Wait what?
According to you libs I thought that was the Republican mantra.
I’ll wait…………..
Boxlock=Mr_Kia
“Katrina, four dollar gas, a trillion dollar war, rising unemployment, deregulated housing market, global warming…no more.”
All the sound bites the dems need.
Menopausal Pentecostal: Has a nice ring to it.
People were paying their bills before the economy tanked. Don’t blame them because they couldn’t keep up with your failed economy plan.
You DemLibs don’t seem to understand anything about this, or anything else I might add.
There are no “preferred bond holders”, there is no such thing. There are common stockholders and preferred stock holders….they got HURT, bad.
The bondholders simply loan money to these organizations and the Feds are securing that dept.
If they didn’t, if bond holders got hurt, the Feds could no longer even sell bonds to raise money to allow them to function. They have to protect the bondholders.
Prediction:
We will hear a great deal about REZCO very soon!
The corrupt, Syrian Rezco, who used radical terrorist connections for some of his financing, milked “tax credits” and government subsidies to build slums in Obama’s State Senate District.
Obama took campaign contributions from Rezco.
Obama REPRESENTED Rezco, in legal matters, and wrote letters to other government officials, supporting Rezco’s plans.
One of Rezco’s campaign checks, to Obama, was written while Rezco was being investigated for poor management of his slums.
Most of those slum buildings are now boarded up.
Rezco is in prison.
Rezco helped OBAMA get his house!
Major General Craig Campbell, the Commander of the Alaska National Guard says that Sarah Palin takes her duties as Commander in Chief of the National Guard seriously and goes “above and beyond” her duties as Governor, on behalf of the troops.
Major General Campbell has know Governor Sarah Palin for 12 years and in the video above he described for Greta Van Susteren the duties a Governor of state has and the abilities Palin has shown in her position as Commander in Chief of her state’s National Guard.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/259544/Alaska_National_Guard_Commander_Palin_Goes_Above_and_Beyond_Her_Duty_For_Guard
cosmos_originally
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:18 pm | Permalink
Phantom,
‘Palin hasn’t ordered Alaska National Guard to do anything‘
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/780734.html
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I know the left can article shop and find anything they want to support their fabrications. The left once again has it wrong.
See it with your own eyes from the boots on the ground in Alaska.
Cosmos this is why I don’t believe your fairy tales about GW.
Check the electoral college map from the last two elections.
Where are all the economic problems stemming from in particular
The red states do not have economies.
Democrats received over 60% of the campaign contributions from Freddie and Fannie executives!
biased1 Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:25 pm |
“Boxlock=Mr_Kia”
I wish I could say as much with as few a words.
This has to make you think a little bit, if not then keep your blinders on!
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high– 14,000 +
5) American’s were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations o’seas, living large!…
But American’s wanted ‘CHANGE’! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress & yep–we got ‘CHANGE’ all right. In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted ;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS & prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~11,100–
$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT
PORTFOLIOS!
YEP , IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE!…AND WE SURE AS HELL GOT IT!!!….
NOW OBAMA, the DEM’S CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT–AND THE POLLS SAY HE’S GONNA BE ‘THE MAN’–CLAIMS HE’S GONNA REALLY GIVE US CHANGE!!….
JUST HOW MUCH MORE ‘CHANGE’ DO YA THINK YOU CAN STAND???…..
Mr.Kia
Why would you think we were any different than conservatives. Repub’s do not represent what I believe in. Simple isn’t it.
beber
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink
Check the electoral college map from the last two elections.
Where are all the economic problems stemming from in particular
The red states do not have economies.
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Yet somehow we manage to pay our mortgages.
Blue states do not contribute to the GDP.
and if not for one very large red state up north, the entire blue left coast would cease to exist….
Major General Campbell, head of the Alaskan National Guard, addresses the issues surrounding Governor Palin and her role as Commander-in-Chief of the Alaskan National Guard.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/259544
In addition to the deployment to Louisiana, Governor Palin has activated the Guard on forest fires and other things.
Now back to Obama. His experience in leading with executive experience is exactly what?
I liked Sunflower5’s comparison of Palin and Obama’s resumes back at 8:38. I would be very interested to see how George W. Bush would fare on all of those qualifications. Actually, I’d like to look at the last several Presidential elections and compare the candidates’ pre-white-house experience. I suspect the record will show that we _consistently_ choose the _less_ experienced candidate. Now, why would that be?
annie_moose
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink
Mr.Kia
Why would you think we were any different than conservatives. Repub’s do not represent what I believe in. Simple isn’t it.
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So you’re looking for a handout.
“The bloom is off the rose. The American people are too savvy to be fooled for very long. Obama is losing appeal and is getting desperate. Why else would he embrace one of Bush’s ideas?”
Embracing Bush’s ideas due to losing appeal? My goodness, if Obama is really that stupid, he does not deserve to be president. I think the point the writer missed here is that Obama said he would delay the resending of tax cuts for the top earners IF we were in a recession. Obama is not saying he will not rescind the cuts at some point.
http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2015
Nuance never gets a Dem any votes. KISS – keep it simple stupid – an apt saying, which either came from the Marine Corps, or A.A.
All the talking points that are necessary:
“Katrina, four dollar gas, a trillion dollar war, rising unemployment, deregulated housing market, global warming…no more.”
Reg
Obama “deployed” money to other leftists, when Obama was working for Terrorist William Ayers!
So you’re looking for a handout.
are you offering a bribe?
-I suspect the record will show that we _consistently_ choose the _less_ experienced candidate. Now, why would that be?
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Actually the last two presidents represent the candidate with the least “military experience.”
Which are the only 2 times in history that, that has happened.
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“We need change, all right. Change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington. We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals.” — Mitt Romney, Sept. 3, 2008
And then the gorilla run knee socks paint porno on the Cadillac. But school laughed and didn’t we sing hats?
Ahem.
Maybe you wonder what the preceding gobbledygook means. I would ask which gobbledygook you mean: mine or Mitt Romney’s? If he’s allowed to spew nonsense and people act as if he’s spoken intelligently, why can’t I? If he gets to behave as if words no longer have objective meaning, why can’t I?
I mean, baffle grab on the freak flake. Really.
And again, ahem.
If you’re a regular here, you’ve heard me rant from time to time about intellectual dishonesty. By this, I mean more than just your garden variety lie. No, to be intellectually dishonest means to argue that which you know to be untrue and to substitute ideology for intellect to the degree that you’ll do violence to language and logic rather than cross the party line.
Yes, we’re all intellectually dishonest on occasion. But no one does it like Republican conservatives. They are to intellectual dishonesty what Michael Jordan was to basketball or the Temptations to harmony: the avatar, the exemplar, the paradigm. They have elevated it beyond hypocrisy and political expedience. They have made it . . . art. Which returns us to the astonishing thing Mitt Romney said while addressing the party faithful in St. Paul. You want to walk around it the way you would Michelangelo’s David, admiring the elegance of the workmanship. You hesitate to touch it, much less pull it apart. To do so seems almost an act of desecration.
Unfortunately, some of us are too plodding and earthbound, too blind to the seductions of art, too stubbornly wedded to some vestigial notion that intellectual honesty matters, to walk past a steaming pile of bovine excreta without calling it a steaming pile of bovine excreta.
So excuse me, beg pardon, so sorry, but I have to ask: what liberal Washington is he talking about? The federal government has three branches. The legislative, i.e., Congress, was under conservative control from 1995 until 2007. The judicial, i.e., the Supreme Court, consists of nine justices, seven of whom were nominated by conservative presidents. The executive, i.e., the president, is George W. Bush. Enough said.
Washington is already what Romney wants to make it. Our current state of affairs, love it or loathe it, is indisputably a product of conservative governance. I wish that mattered more than it does.
That it doesn’t matter much at all you can credit to conservative politicians who have, over the years, trained their followers to respond with Pavlovian faithfulness to certain terms. Say ”conservative,” and they wag their tails. Say ”liberal” and they bare their fangs. More to the point, say either and all thinking ceases, so much so that a representative of the ideology that has controlled most of Washington most of the last 12 years can say with a straight face that his ideology needs to seize control of Washington to fix what is broken there. And people hear this Orwellian doublespeak . . . and cheer. Why not? They have been taught that words mean what you need them to in a given moment.
Sadly, it has proven an easy lesson to impart. Turns out, all it requires is a limitless supply of gall and the inherent belief that people are dumber than a bag of hammers.
And all it costs us is language, the ability to have reasoned and intelligent political discourse, the idea that words do, and should, have weight, dimension and intrinsic meaning. Maybe you disagree. In which case, let me just say this:
Piffle crack eat monkey snow. Really.”
annie_moose
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink
So you’re looking for a handout.
are you offering a bribe?
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That’s actually pretty funny. :)
Benedict Arnold also had military experience.
There is good experience, and there is bad experience.
McCain has an HONORABLE military record.
Obama does not.
Kerry did not.
Leonard Pitts is a leftist.
Everything this side of Karl Marx looks “right wing” to him.
That’s actually pretty funny.
hey I grew up in, Chicago the land of patronage and back room deals.
Back to work, later.
“Democrats received over 60% of the campaign contributions from Freddie and Fannie executives!” — Franklin
Well, since both companies each have 100s of executives I doubt if you can make that statement hold up.
P.M. do you curl up with a gallon of Kroger ice cream and cry yourself to sleep every night?
okobserver posted September 8, 2008 at 1:28 pm
“I know the left can article shop and find anything they want to support their fabrications. The left once again has it wrong.
See it with your own eyes from the boots on the ground in Alaska.
Cosmos this is why I don’t believe your fairy tales about GW.”
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okobserver, do you have a severe reading problem, and/or some other “difficulty”?
Going ““above and beyond” her duties as Governor” is NOT giving “orders”.
‘Palin hasn’t ordered Alaska National Guard to do anything’
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/780734.html
“Did Palin directly approve each of those activities?
No, Campbell said. The governor has granted him the authority to act on his own in most cases, including life-or-death emergencies – when a quick response is required – and minor day-to-day operations.
“Some authorities have been given to me that she has acknowledged that I can execute,” he said. “For others I have to ask her each time.”
The recent decision to deploy a C-17 cargo plane from the Alaska Air National Guard to Louisiana to assist during the Hurricane Gustav response was an occasion in which Campbell briefed the governor’s office and sought its approval, he said. Chief of Staff Mike Nizich signed off on it.”
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annie_moose
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:47 pm | Permalink
That’s actually pretty funny.
hey I grew up in, Chicago the land of patronage and back room deals.
Back to work, later.
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I visited Chicago several times. Once as a small boy of nine.
I remember seeing for the first time in my life water fountains marked “White and Colored.” Restrooms marked the same way. Black people sitting in the back of the bus.
Yeah, Chicago…
September 8th, 2008 2:44 PM Eastern
You Can’t Fake Authenticity- Cal Thomas
What is it about Sarah Palin that has gotten the liberal media’s knickers in a twist? Why are they criticizing, even mocking, everything from her hair to her faith?
She is exactly what the feminists claim to want and admire in women: strong, self-assured, a working mom, a political leader. But wait, she is a conservative Republican and because of that they hate her for displaying all of the aforementioned characteristics.
They are appalled that she would keep a Down Syndrome child when she could have aborted him. They are outraged when she speaks of God as if she knows Him, when their only acquaintance with the name is as a curse word, followed by “damn.” They are even disgusted that she has five children, as they think one (or two if you are Obama) is enough.
Sarah Palin is to the left what sunlight is to a vampire. Her high heels have knocked them back on the heels of their comfortable shoes.
She has galvanized and united the social and economic conservatives, when the left thought it saw an unbridgeable divide between the “oil and water” elements of the Republican Party.
The USA Today-Gallup Poll published Monday shows a ten point advantage for McCain-Palin among likely voters — the most important constituency. That is a remarkable turnaround when you consider Obama received an eight-point bounce from the Democratic Convention, which has now been wiped-out.
I think it has something to do with the fact that average people, who live in what the left thinks of as “flyover” country, identify with a woman who has an intact, yet imperfect family. They can visualize her pushing a grocery cart at the supermarket and shopping at Wal-Mart.
You can’t fake genuineness and if this trend continues, Obama and the entire Democratic Party — which thought it had this election in the bag — will be left to wonder over the next four years how they got their pockets picked by someone they arrogantly consider a yahoo from moose country.
List of Gross State Products:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita_(nominal)
As I said, the red states (for the most part) do not have economies; they have menopausal Pentecostals.
Look who is dead last as usual; the solid South.
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cosmos_originally
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:54 pm | Permalink
okobserver posted September 8, 2008 at 1:28 pm
“I know the left can article shop and find anything they want to support their fabrications. The left once again has it wrong.
See it with your own eyes from the boots on the ground in Alaska.
Cosmos this is why I don’t believe your fairy tales about GW.”
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okobserver, do you have a severe reading problem, and/or some other “difficulty”?
Going ““above and beyond” her duties as Governor” is NOT giving “orders”.
‘Palin hasn’t ordered Alaska National Guard to do anything’
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/780734.html
“Did Palin directly approve each of those activities?
No, Campbell said. The governor has granted him the authority to act on his own in most cases, including life-or-death emergencies – when a quick response is required – and minor day-to-day operations.
“Some authorities have been given to me that she has acknowledged that I can execute,” he said. “For others I have to ask her each time.”
The recent decision to deploy a C-17 cargo plane from the Alaska Air National Guard to Louisiana to assist during the Hurricane Gustav response was an occasion in which Campbell briefed the governor’s office and sought its approval, he said. Chief of Staff Mike Nizich signed off on it.”
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Yo! cosmos!
That’s how real life works in the military.
Those in the Chain of Command get their “Authority” from those above them.
With out this structure, no one in the military would be authorized to do anything.
And cosmos, what was it that Obama was in charge of again?
Regular
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Permalink
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annie_moose
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:47 pm | Permalink
That’s actually pretty funny.
hey I grew up in, Chicago the land of patronage and back room deals.
Back to work, later.
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I visited Chicago several times. Once as a small boy of nine.
I remember seeing for the first time in my life water fountains marked “White and Colored.” Restrooms marked the same way. Black people sitting in the back of the bus.
Yeah, Chicago
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Oh that’s not fair. It was most of the country that was that backwards.
Oh My God! She actually allowed the deployment of a c-17 to help with the hurricane! Now That’s Leadership with military experience.
Cosmos thank you for proving my point. I listened to this man speak last night and he had nothing but praise for Palin. He said she was a very hands on leader. Of course you would know this is you actually watched the video.
Guess he wasn’t ‘peer reviewed’. Darn him.
annie_moose
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink
Franklin,
The point you miss is I’m a lib first, dem second. I don’t really care what Clinton or Biden does I vote for what I perceive as my own best self interest.
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This comment coming from the Libs who say Conservatives are SELFISH for wanting the Freedom to keep our own property, including what we EARN, is sooooo laced with hypocracy.
GIMME!!!
GIMME!!!
GIMME!!!
Phantom
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
Oh My God! She actually allowed the deployment of a c-17 to help with the hurricane! Now That’s Leadership with military experience
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Yeah, she had the authority to do so.
And the authority Obama has is????????????????
Mr_Kia
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
Regular
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink
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gster
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink
RE: “Check the electoral college map from the last two elections.
Where are all the economic problems stemming from in particular?”
That would be Washington D.C.
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Add Wall Street.
Speculative Housing Market
Speculative Petroleum Market
The Hollyfornian love affair with spend and tax
Unbridled credit card debts
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Thank you for illustrating the point. Blue States for the most part.
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The Blue States controlled largely by Democrat Governors and Legislatures, are the ones with the worst economies. They keep raising taxes and expecting businesses to stay in their state, but instead, they drive the employers out of business or they are forced to relocate elsewhere.
That’s some high level decision making, I’ll tell you whut, she couldn’t just answer ‘Present’, no sireeee.
What was her views on invading Iraq, other than we all need to pray that it was being directed by the hand of God?
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Phantom
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:07 pm | Permalink
That’s some high level decision making, I’ll tell you whut, she couldn’t just answer ‘Present’, no sireeee.
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Ya, it is high level decision making.
A much, much higher level than Obama has ever had to do.
Phantom
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
Oh My God! She actually allowed the deployment of a c-17 to help with the hurricane! Now That’s Leadership with military experience.
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Lets see Obama was authorized to deploy the street sweepers. As she said they are pretty much the same except she has responsibilities.
Yep Phantom real experience there!
Beber, HATE to cut and paste, but this is exactly why the blue states are “leading the pack”
The gross national product includes air pollution and advertising for cigarettes and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and jails for the people who break them. GNP includes the destruction of the redwoods and the death of Lake Superior. It grows with the production of napalm, and missiles and nuclear warheads… it does not allow for the health of our families, the quality of their education, or the joy of their play. It is indifferent to the decency of our factories and the safety of our streets alike. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages, or the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile.
Can you guess whos words these are?
I imagine Obama faced bigger threats on the streets of southside Chicago, than Palin faced huning moose or bear, and she was heavilly armed!
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Phantom
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
I imagine Obama faced bigger threats on the streets of southside Chicago, than Palin faced huning moose or bear, and she was heavilly armed!
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I doubt the Hawaiian born Obama did much “street roaming.”
StevenEDavis
Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
“Katrina, four dollar gas, a trillion dollar war, rising unemployment, deregulated housing market, global warming…no more.”
All the sound bites the dems need.
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$4 Gas: Dems blocked new drilling for oil in the USA going back 15 years and the Public knows this. And you Global Warming Alarmists should be VERY HAPPY with the reduction in gasoline consumption and reduced emissions resulting directly from high gas prices. But no, you want SOMEONE ELSE to pay for a “solution” to your alledged manmade Global Warming problem.
Katrina: As illustrated by the reaction to Hurricane Gustov, had Mayor Nagin forced a proper EVACUATION of his city BEFORE Katrina hit, the resulting loss of life would have been the same as for Gustov. Yes, please illustrate what happens with a Democrat Mayor and Democrat Governor of New Orleans and Louisiana.
Iraq War: Vote for and funded by Democrats going on 5+ years. (And now Biden today takes credit for it!)
Housing Market: Enough blame on all sides baby, you want to play the Angel role on this? Riiigggghhhtttt…..
Global Warming: Prove that Man Causes it, then Prove that Man can Cure it, then we’ll talk. (SEE comment under $4 gas!)
But Phantom he was there to clean up the streets. Are you telling me he failed at that job? This isn’t looking good on his resume.
Failed at Community Organizer.
Not looking good!
I remember seeing for the first time in my life water fountains marked “White and Colored.” Restrooms marked the same way. Black people sitting in the back of the bus – Post from WE FH
http://content.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=4810 – URL which supports above WE FH post.
Point: Obama worked to end the aftermath of such segregation as a community organizer. And has risen from the base he helped build in what was formerly one of the most segregated Northern cities to become a U. S. Senator and a presidential candidate. That leap alone is as great and took as much courage as any McCain ever made from an aircraft.
There have been more murders, in Chicago, than in Bahgdad, lately.
I hope Palin goes to Chicago, and promised to help clean up Chicago, as well.
Palin should also go to Detroit, with the same promise.
Obama made things worse, in Chicago.
Obama supporter Kwame Kilpatrick, former Detroit Mayor, is going to jail!
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beber
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:15 pm | Permalink
I remember seeing for the first time in my life water fountains marked “White and Colored.” Restrooms marked the same way. Black people sitting in the back of the bus – Post from WE FH
http://content.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=4810 – URL which supports above WE FH post.
Point: Obama worked to end the aftermath of such segregation as a community organizer. And has risen from the base he helped build in what was formerly one of the most segregated Northern cities to become a U. S. Senator and a presidential candidate. That leap alone is as great and took as much courage as any McCain ever made from an aircraft.
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Obama had nothing to do with that eventuality.
Obama ran on his skin color and is still doing it.
okobserver,
Thank you for proving my points.
Palin only has command authority of the AKNG within Alaska, and she has not “ordered” the NG to do anything.
beber- That leap alone is as great and took as much courage as any McCain ever made from an aircraft.
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The One courageous? Hardly. Being a “community organizer” in a city that is 38% black, takes about as much “courage” as jumping off a coffee table……
Can you imagine the howls from the neocons here if Kathleen told the Natl Guard “oh just do whatever, I don’t want to be bothered with those things”
Franklin, what are the civilian domestic murder rate statistics in Iraq?
WHAT his father was before him…. Dr. WRIGHT is NOT a Friggin BAPTIST!!!
Whast is there that you are not grasping here??? Huh???
OR, are you just trolling for the hell of it??
I am getting so DAMNED TIRED of you right wing bastards who twist every goddam thing that is posted here….
WRIGHT IS NOT A BAPTIST!!
http://www.trinitychicago.org
READ IT THIS TIME, DUMB ASS!!
WTF is a Community Organizer?
Anybody know?
Well I agree, it took courage to destroy 5 military aircraft that you were flying.
Other than that- what has McCain done that he hasn’t screwed up as well?
BTW, there has been more than 4,000 murders in Chicago alone since 9/11…..
What is Iraq count.
HERE… BLOG WENT NUTS ON MY FIRST SCREEN…
biased1
Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink
Oh biased1 —- IF you could read, you would know that Dr. Wright isnt a Bptist!!
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And Chas (aka the Bigot)
If you knew Dr. Wright, you would also know that his father was a baptist minister. He took what he learned from his father and blended it with the radical beliefs of the likes of louie farrakahn and bastadized it with racism and bigotry…..
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I dont care WHAT his father was before him,
JEREMIAH WRIGHT IS NOT A BAPTIST!!!!
Pretty damned hilarious: I see the breathtakingly moronic (but deliciously Orwellian!) strategy is still underway.
So we still have the supposed awesome leadership and authority of a corrupt small-town mayor and first-term governor being touted as so much more important and relevant than the experience with budgeting, rulemaking, and auditing of actual federal government. Good point: Senator John Mc–er, Barack Obama is obviously unqualified. Hell, why would anyone trust this country to someone who’s never ever been a mayor, (let alone a governor) like John Mc–er, Barack Obama?
You can’t argue with logic like that.
Bbut of course that same argument means, inescapebly, that Bill Clinton was far more qualified to be president in 1992 than George HW Bush or Bob Dole). Considering the degree of Clinton-bashing we’ve seen from the cons here, that’s a rather amazing revelation.
Oh yea, and biased1…. HE ISNT A MUSLIM EITHER!!!! YOU LYING POS!!!
“There have been more murders, in Chicago, than in Baghdad lately” – WE FH
Prove it. And don’t drag out that tired comparison between American troops and people murdered in Chicago. The troops aren’t being killed because they are hunkered down so they won’t get killed. CNN reported at least a half dozen deaths of Iraqi troops and policemen this morning, and that doesn’t even count the civilians that were killed. Three were found shot to death in Baghdad this morning.
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Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink
WHAT his father was before him…. Dr. WRIGHT is NOT a Friggin BAPTIST!!!
Whast is there that you are not grasping here??? Huh???
OR, are you just trolling for the hell of it??
I am getting so DAMNED TIRED of you right wing bastards who twist every goddam thing that is posted here….
WRIGHT IS NOT A BAPTIST!!
http://www.trinitychicago.org
READ IT THIS TIME, DUMB ASS!!
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I can verify that. The Reverend Wright is definitely not a Baptist.
Maybe more akin to the Phelps type of self styling Baptist.
But definitely not main stream or held to acceptable good behavior.
I am getting so DAMNED TIRED of you right wing bastards who twist every goddam thing that is posted here….
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Inspiring words from our resident Pastor, Chas. He doesn’t get why people question his occupation.
Gosh, Obama cleaned up Chicago! Only an 18% increase in murders this year too! Obama helped PROMOTE MORE WELFARE!!! Socialist!!!
(More Americans have been killed in Obama’s organized community of Chicago, then in Iraq in 2008!)
Per Wiki:
Community organizing is a process by which disempowered people—most often low- and moderate-income people—are brought together to act in their common self-interest. Community organizers act as area-wide coordinators of programs for different agencies in an attempt to meet community needs for health and welfare services. They also facilitate self-help programs initiated by local common-interest groups, for example, by training local leaders to analyze and solve the problems of a community. Community organizers work actively, as do other types of social workers, in community councils of social agencies and in community-action groups. At times the role of community organizers overlaps that of the social planners.[1]
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
WTF is a Community Organizer?
Anybody know?
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If you are that damned dumb, Max, GO BACKL TO SCHOOL, and learn something!!! ROFL!~!!
“What is Iraq count.” WE FU
One million plus.
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink
WHAT his father was before him…. Dr. WRIGHT is NOT a Friggin BAPTIST!!!
Whast is there that you are not grasping here??? Huh???
OR, are you just trolling for the hell of it??
I am getting so DAMNED TIRED of you right wing bastards who twist every goddam thing that is posted here….
WRIGHT IS NOT A BAPTIST!!
http://www.trinitychicago.org
READ IT THIS TIME, DUMB ASS!!
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CHAS I AM SHOCKED AT YOUR BEHAVIOR!!!
WHAT KIND OF PREACHER ARE YOU???
Yea, right Max, like the Socialism in Alaska, where everybody gets $3,000 a year in state funds??? Whether they need it or not??? Go STUFF your socialist agenda where the friggin sun dont shine (like it doesnt shine in Alaska for half a year)
Here you go Rage, crime statistics Chicago.
http://chicago.everyblock.com/crime/by-primary-type/
Over half a million crimes since June 2007.
Yeah, there’s something to be proud of.
Chasim- READ IT THIS TIME, DUMB ASS!!
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I would not base my opinion of a man on ONE article.
Take off the tinfoil and put down the coolaid dude.
Wright was raised a baptist. He twisted it and turned it, to make it fit his racist, bigoted, anti-american “friends” view……
For money.
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:32 pm | Permalink
Oh yea, and biased1…. HE ISNT A MUSLIM EITHER!!!! YOU LYING POS!!!
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OH MY!!!!!!!
Pray Over Sinners?
Max
Read Saul Alinsky, “Rules for Radicals” —
“Rub raw the resentments of the group” —
That was Obama’s job, to instill hatred and anger among the population, and then to direct that anger towards getting liberals elected to office.
Obama’s job was to organize Black churches into the “legislative” issues he cared about.
He got to keep those mailing lists, of the members of each Church.
Then, he used those contacts to get his friends, and himself, ELECTED!
So:
“Community Organizer” = Political Hack!
Regular’s argument about Chicago is actually with beer but, latest I checked, Richard Daley was the mayor of Chicago. Take it up with him.
MAX… I am the kind of a preacher that is sick adn tired of you and your kind of FACIST HYPOCRISY…. you come wrapped in the FLAG carrying the CROSS….
And you make a total mockery of BOTH OF THEM!!!
Max, YOU are one of the biggest JOKES and FOOLS on this entire Blog….
CapA – never lied about Chappell. He did try to sell the state a school finance formula. If you want to check that out just call the Senate Chair of Education Jean Schodorf.
He was not doing it to help anybody it was for him to make money.
. . “with beber,” but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was alcohol involved!
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Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
Yea, right Max, like the Socialism in Alaska, where everybody gets $3,000 a year in state funds??? Whether they need it or not??? Go STUFF your socialist agenda where the friggin sun dont shine (like it doesnt shine in Alaska for half a year)
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Let me translate that Lib speak for ya…
Chas: “Damn! I wish I was in Alaska to get some of that money!”
Chas
Obama just called HIMSELF a Muslim.
Catch up, would you?
Chas
You are OBVIOUSLY the “kind of preacher” who is tired of Christianity.
(That is, if we swallow your BS in the first place)
I think Chas dropped an anchor without the captain’s order….Go clean up Chas, you will be happier.
“Wright was raised a baptist.” THAT IS THE OHLY TRUE STATEMENT YOU HAVE MADE YET….
WRIGHT IS NOT A FRIGGIN BAPTIST!!!!
Good grief…. My Dad was a Lutheran…. But I’M NOT!!! What the HELL is your friggin point???
And he isnt a MUSLIM EITHER….
BIASED1, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A GOD FORSAKEN LIAR!!!
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Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
“Wright was raised a baptist.” THAT IS THE OHLY TRUE STATEMENT YOU HAVE MADE YET….
WRIGHT IS NOT A FRIGGIN BAPTIST!!!!
Good grief…. My Dad was a Lutheran…. But I’M NOT!!! What the HELL is your friggin point???
And he isnt a MUSLIM EITHER….
BIASED1, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A GOD FORSAKEN LIAR!!!
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Easy Chas – you’re gonna pop a vein.
Chas- Oh yea, and biased1…. HE ISNT A MUSLIM EITHER!!!! YOU LYING POS!!!
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Is the One a muslim? I saw a picture of him in a turban and robes….
looked pretty comfortable if you ask me….
Franklin
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
Chas
You are OBVIOUSLY the “kind of preacher” who is tired of Christianity.
(That is, if we swallow your BS in the first place)
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FRANKLIN — YOU ARE A DAMNED LIAR TOO… AND I AM TIRED OF YOUR BULL SHIT TOO!!!
NOW, IF YOU ARE OFFEND3ED BY MY HUMANITY, THAT IS JUST TOUGH!! THE MORE YOU LYING HYPOCRITES KEEP UP YOUR GARBAGE AND YOUR LIES, THE MORE I WILL STACK IT ON YOU!!!
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Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink
Franklin
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
Chas
You are OBVIOUSLY the “kind of preacher” who is tired of Christianity.
(That is, if we swallow your BS in the first place)
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FRANKLIN — YOU ARE A DAMNED LIAR TOO… AND I AM TIRED OF YOUR BULL SHIT TOO!!!
NOW, IF YOU ARE OFFEND3ED BY MY HUMANITY, THAT IS JUST TOUGH!! THE MORE YOU LYING HYPOCRITES KEEP UP YOUR GARBAGE AND YOUR LIES, THE MORE I WILL STACK IT ON YOU!!!
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With all that arm flailing, Chas is going to launch any second now.
Obama recently:
“My Muslim faith”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/spreading_the_smear_that_obama.html
Chas, you have a potty mouth…
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Franklin
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
Obama recently:
“My Muslim faith”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/spreading_the_smear_that_obama.html
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Points up
Franklin
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:38 pm | Permalink
Max
Read Saul Alinsky, “Rules for Radicals” —
“Rub raw the resentments of the group” —
That was Obama’s job, to instill hatred and anger among the population, and then to direct that anger towards getting liberals elected to office.
Obama’s job was to organize Black churches into the “legislative” issues he cared about.
He got to keep those mailing lists, of the members of each Church.
Then, he used those contacts to get his friends, and himself, ELECTED!
So:
“Community Organizer” = Political Hack!
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What was Obama’s salary as Community Organizer? Who paid it?
Does Obama have some bullet points listing specific accomplishments as a Community Organizer?
Who is the Community Organizer for Wichita?
Chas
Pastor of the “Church of what Chas believes”
LOL
You are a fraud, Chas.
And — if you do have a “congregation” they are all idiots!
Chas….meets and greets The One….
they kneal on their little carpets…
facing mecca…
(back ground music)
haala, haala, frigga haala…
Franklin
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
Chas
Obama just called HIMSELF a Muslim.
Catch up, would you?
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Yea, right…. and Santa Claus wears green and red polka dot boxer shorts too!!!
STOP YOUR LYING, FRANKLIN…. You wouldnt want your clients to know they have a LIAR for an agent, now would you??
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
“Wright was raised a baptist.” THAT IS THE OHLY TRUE STATEMENT YOU HAVE MADE YET….
WRIGHT IS NOT A FRIGGIN BAPTIST!!!!
Good grief…. My Dad was a Lutheran…. But I’M NOT!!! What the HELL is your friggin point???
And he isnt a MUSLIM EITHER….
BIASED1, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A GOD FORSAKEN LIAR!!!
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Chas, God has foresaken Biased1? How do you know this?
Biased1, were you aware of this?
A number of White leftists were involved, in recruiting Obama to the “community organizing” job.
The White guys could not organize in Black Churches, they needed Obama!
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink
Franklin
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
Chas
You are OBVIOUSLY the “kind of preacher” who is tired of Christianity.
(That is, if we swallow your BS in the first place)
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FRANKLIN — YOU ARE A DAMNED LIAR TOO… AND I AM TIRED OF YOUR BULL SHIT TOO!!!
NOW, IF YOU ARE OFFEND3ED BY MY HUMANITY, THAT IS JUST TOUGH!! THE MORE YOU LYING HYPOCRITES KEEP UP YOUR GARBAGE AND YOUR LIES, THE MORE I WILL STACK IT ON YOU!!!
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Heh, heh, heh…
Listen to Chas’ HUMANITY!!!!!!!!
ROFLMAO!!!! GUFFAWWWWW!!!!
LOL!!!
BLOWIN SNOT BUBBLES NOW!!!!
FART.
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Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:51 pm | Permalink
Franklin
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:40 pm | Permalink
Chas
Obama just called HIMSELF a Muslim.
Catch up, would you?
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Yea, right…. and Santa Claus wears green and red polka dot boxer shorts too!!!
STOP YOUR LYING, FRANKLIN…. You wouldnt want your clients to know they have a LIAR for an agent, now would you??
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So Chas, how many faithful in your congregation now?
Are your collection plates full?
Do you interface with clergy of all denominations in Wichita?
Do you give an invitation at the end of your Sermons?
Chas
Did you look at the video?
Try a Google search, “Obama Muslim” — the video with George Stephanopolis should pop up, in several formats.
Obama messed up!
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/spreading_the_smear_that_obama.html
“My Muslim Faith” Obama!
The oneness goes to her church, there’s is laying on of hands and invocations (nay demands) to God to “Find a Way!”
And, so it was.
Why Regular??? “Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor!” And add blatant LYING on to that….
Biased1 is a Godforsaken LIAR!!
Yes Max…
It happened when I was quite young.
On a teeter, totter.
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
Why Regular??? “Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor!” And add blatant LYING on to that….
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Just asking…
Obama messed up!
I saw it. So what?
That’s like jumping on a obviously tired Obama (I saw that video too) for saying 57 states instead of 47 states.
It’s beyond silly.
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Rage
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:58 pm | Permalink
Obama messed up!
I saw it. So what?
That’s like jumping on a obviously tired Obama (I saw that video too) for saying 57 states instead of 47 states.
It’s beyond silly.
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Too much cocaine perhaps?
P.S. It’s unclear whether you’re really that incredibly stupid, or are hoping that incredibly stupid people will fall for it.
I’m thinking it’s a little of both.
Teeter totter?
Were you saved after that? I thought God would NOT forsake you.
Guess I was wrong.
Silly?
Have you libs EVER given McCain a break, when he makes a verbal mistake?
Too much cocaine perhaps?
I dunno. How much did you sell him?
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Rage
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:59 pm | Permalink
P.S. It’s unclear whether you’re really that incredibly stupid, or are hoping that incredibly stupid people will fall for it.
I’m thinking it’s a little of both.
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Now, now…
Let’s not be wagging the dog…
Jerimiah Wright is a bigoted, racist, anti American cult leader…..nothing more.
Chas, you poor, dumb, godforsaken idiot….
troll.
Clearly he was saying mccain hadn’t accused him of being a muslim.
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Rage
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
Too much cocaine perhaps?
I dunno. How much did you sell him?
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You only gave me 50 grams, you wanted him to get more?
Good Lord, Franklin, not only can you not READ with any comprehension, you also cant HEAR worth a damn!!!
What he SAID was that John McCain hasnt joined in with your group of LIARS that keep insisting Obama is a Muslim…
OH, and did you read that HUGE headline at the top of your “article”????
HERE —- Let me HELP >>>>
September 07, 2008
Spreading the smear that Obama is a Muslim
Thomas Lifson
Look at who is spreading the vicious rumor that Barack Obama is of the Muslim faith. I trust the campaign will condemn this bigot and see to it that he is driven from the public stage.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/spreading_the_smear_that_obama.html
Have you libs EVER given McCain a break, when he makes a verbal mistake?
Yep. Repeatedly.
But there’s a big difference between a verbal slip (saying the wrong thing), and a rational slip (e.g. not knowing about some of the newer countries in Eastern Europe).
the wefus are crowing a bit today. That’s a good sign, really. This is a real good time for Palin and McCocaine to peak.
Obama is a Muslim??? Well, that does it, I will not vote for him!!!!
Menopausin’ Palin.
That’s got a nice ring to.
Falin’ Palin.
That’s pretty good.
Have you ever seen thousands of crows in a field as dusk, just before they fly to roost? They jump and caw and peck each other, and shit everywhere. Reminds me of the wefus on the board today.
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ANTI
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:03 pm | Permalink
Obama is a Muslim??? Well, that does it, I will not vote for him!!!!
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Did you see the video? OMG!
It’s on the Web! It must be true!
PMom, lindainks and predestined told me anything on the Web is true!
OMG!
OMG!!! I just found out he is BLACK too!!!! OMG!!!!
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
Teeter totter?
Were you saved after that? I thought God would NOT forsake you.
Guess I was wrong.
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I don’t mean to talk out of school Max. But,
luckily, I befriended a young chap with four names, that recruited me one wednesday night to a very peculiar church, whereby I was saved by a former drug addict and alcoholic. (shortly after the “I barely outran the devil” sermon he gave)
4th grade was a rough year…
BTW, thanks for the concern friend.
But really what stopped me from considering Obama is that he is a Liberal Democrat…..truly unacceptable in my eyes.. ;)
What the conservatives think. Is Obama of the Muslim faith really a Muslim?
http://forums.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=157&pollShowResults=1
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:34 pm | Permalink
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
WTF is a Community Organizer?
Anybody know?
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If you are that damned dumb, Max, GO BACKL TO SCHOOL, and learn something!!! ROFL!~!!
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Say Chas, who is the Community Organizer for Wichita?
Isn’t this a vital position for the community? Who is it?
Has anyone checked on Chas? I hope he didn’t stroke out….
ANTI
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:13 pm | Permalink
Has anyone checked on Chas? I hope he didn’t stroke out…
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Probably “taken out” by the caps-lock police…..
Closest thing I could find to Wichita’s Community Organizer:
http://www.wichita.gov/NR/rdonlyres/D19A9FF0-8829-4ACC-8D95-7D5075F60B8E/39252/BlockPartyInformationLetter106.doc
How to Have a Block Party
Residents in neighborhood areas may request permission to temporarily close residential streets for the purpose of holding a Block Party in their neighborhood. Requests to close streets for Block Parties must be coordinated through the City Manager’s Office (268-4351).
1. Residential streets only may be closed for up to five (5) hours to hold a neighborhood event involving residents in a block or defined area. No major arterial streets may be closed. The Police Station in the area needs to be contacted for advice & support to coordinate a safe event.
Patrol North – 688-9500 Patrol South – 337-9200
Patrol East – 688-9331 Patrol West – 337-9400
2. Signatures & addresses for all properties within the defined area should be obtained. No special form is required. Through acquiring the signatures, each resident in the area is notified and given opportunity to discuss concerns with the organizer about the street closure.
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Kandisue
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:10 pm | Permalink
What the conservatives think. Is Obama of the Muslim faith really a Muslim?
http://forums.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=157&pollShowResults=1
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Thanks, but no thanks Kandisue. I really despise all of this petty “gotcha” politics. It is just getting ridiculous.
The Republican ticket has created tremendous positive excitement with the Palin pick. The left is showing it’s true colors with the awful treatment Palin has received. Yes, there is the desire to give it right back to them, lie for lie. But, if we stay positive and quit making stupid allegations (like Obama is a Muslim), we can draw an even clearer line between the left and the right in common sense department.
That is what Americans want. Common sense.
WHY WOULD YOU CARE MAX?? This isnt your town… or is it just for this week?? LOL
This City has many of them…. There is the United Methodist Open Door; There is the Sexual Assault Network; There is Planned Parenthood; There is a Lutheran Church on Waco, that has “homeless breakfasts”; There is Kansas Sam, and his outreach ministry to the homeless…. There are all of the many and varied Go Zones in operation…. There is Rainbows United; There are the Hunter Clinics….
ALL of them are, in one way or another, Community Organizer groups…. Oh yea, there is Meals on Wheels, out on S. Walnut… and there is Habitat for Humanity… MANY MORE!!
“But, if we stay positive and quit making stupid allegations (like Obama is a Muslim), we can draw an even clearer line between the left and the right in common sense department.” [Outlander]
THANKS OUTLANDER :-)
No Community Organizer in Wichita, KS?
How does a city of 360,000 people SURVIVE without a Community Organizer?
MAX still cant READ!!! Ya just cant fix stupid…. DAMN!!
You people don’t even know what you hate. It’s yourselves. Now that’s ironic.
beber
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:26 pm | Permalink
You people don’t even know what you hate. It’s yourselves. Now that’s ironic.
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Well, you don’t leave us with much. P.M. took the “hate Jews”, M.P.’s got the “hate Christians”, BlueJay covers “hate everyone”, so we don’t have much to hate.
How does a city of 360,000 people SURVIVE without a Community Organizer?
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Midnight Basketball at lynettes place?
Wow! Lotsa Community Organizers in Wichita!
Should have SEVERAL Presidential Candidates coming from Wichita 5 years from now!
Say Chas, just what exactly do those Organizers DO?
Say Chas, most of those Organizers you pointed out are affiliated with Churches?
How does working for a Church qualify you to be a President? And can they then keep the separation of Church & State if they were former pastors or worked for churches?
I found it in Wiki, you know.
Community Organizers help people sign-up for Welfare.
Sorta like the Help Desk at the Library.
The Community Organizer helps people fill out forms to get free stuff, Welfare instead of books.
That saves Poor People a lot of Time & Work from having to figure out how to apply for Welfare on their own.
ANTI
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:08 pm | Permalink
OMG!!! I just found out he is BLACK too!!!! OMG!!!!
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I’ve always found that interesting.
Raised by a white mother in Hawaii and Indonesia. Met a father once who was raised in Africa.
What he knows from the African-American experience is from books or the Rev. Wright. That’s scary.
Kinda like Santa Clause ya know.
You go sit on his lap and WISH for things.
I hope I get this, and hope I get that. Santa, “I need some change.”
“BlueJay covers “hate everyone”.
I only hate cons and busy body christians.
Max, out of those I listed THREE of them are “faith-based” —- Jusdt the way Preznit Shrub likes it…. All the rest are not “faith-based”…. So, what is your point??
I think JR would make a good Community Organizer.
He has nothing else to do, and he knows how to help people apply for Welfare.
And he gets along with so many diverse groups of people.
BlueJay
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
“BlueJay covers “hate everyone”.
I only hate cons and busy body christians.
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Now don’t sell yourself short BlueJay.
Was Obama working for a Faith-Based Program when he was a Community Organizer?
Rev Wright’s Church program?
Oh and another point,
Just what does a Community Organizer DO, which would qualify them to be President of the U-Nited States?
Is that all Obama did was to help people sign-up for welfare?
A Secretary can do that.
And BJ could help the Welfare People learn how to whine better, and make sure their hands are held out properly, and that the right-sized tin cup is used.
“How does working for a Church qualify you to be a President? And can they then keep the separation of Church & State if they were former pastors or worked for churches?” [Max]
Gee I dont know Max… Why dont you ask Pat Robertson, or Mike Huckabee, or Woodrow Wilson?? Huckabee only had a few incursions on Separation of Church and State; Wilson didnt have any problems with that; however, Pat Robertson… well, thats a different story altogether….
By the way, Max, 3 out of 10 is NOT most… in reference to what you mentioned earlier….
“A Secretary can do that.”
You’d know about that wouldn’t you Hank?
Max, you’re just an ASS!!! SHUT UP!!! Your nurses are calling you to take your pills!!
Max–
Obama has had a few jobs since the first one when he graduated college . . .
Some of those “Projects” in South Side Chicago have more people living in them than ALL of Wasilla, Alaska… LOL….
Not to mention that 700,000 people is a nice sized neighborhood in Chicago!! (Thats about how many LIVE in Alaska)
Alaska is a beautiful place, if we dont go in there and RUIN it with oil well equipment, and other industrial blight…
Like…..
Drug Dealer?
This is hilarious, suck on this wingnuts
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/04/is-grover-norquist-an-islamist.html
Paul Sperry, author of the new book, Infiltration, in an interview calls Grover Norquist “an agent of influence for Islamists in Washington.” When asked by FrontPageMag.com why a Republican anti-tax lobbyist should so passionately promote Islamist causes, Sperry implied that Norquist has converted to Islam: “He’s marrying a Muslim, and when I asked Norquist if he himself has converted to Islam, he brushed the question off as too ‘personal.’” As Lawrence Auster comments on this exchange, “Clearly, if Norquist hadn’t converted to Islam, or weren’t in the process of doing so, he would simply have answered no.”
Indeed, Norquist married Samah Alrayyes, a Palestinian Muslim, on April 2, 2005, and Islamic law limits a Muslim woman to marrying a man who is Muslim. This is not an abstract dictum but a very serious imperative, with many “honor” killings having resulted from a woman ignoring her family’s wishes
Chas
Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:54 pm | Permalink
Max, you’re just an ASS!!! SHUT UP!!! Your nurses are calling you to take your pills!!
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Chas has no f*cking clue what Community Organizer IS!!!!
Obama be qualified tho.
Well, you all have fun now, and no hitting!! I got better things to do than watch the All Max/All Day show….
Later!!
Chas has no f*cking clue
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Nailed that one!
outlander, if you’re the voice of reason- I’ll gladly live in loony land. I’ll be there if your people get elected once again.
Lotsa Stuff There. All TALKING. NO DOING.
Community Organizer: 5 years
Lecturer: 11 years
State Senate: 8 years
US Senate: 4 years (Last 2 years campaigning)
http://www.issues2000.org/Profile_Barack_Obama.htm
Previous Occupation: Community organizer, Chicago, 1983-88
Lecturer of constitutional law at University of Chicago Law School, 1993-2004
Previous Office: Illinois State Senate, 1996-2004; U.S. Senate, 2004-date
Education: BA, Columbia University, 1983; JD, Harvard Law School, 1991
Birth: Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Hawaii
130 Votes of “Present” by Obama in the IL Senate.
Wonder how President Obama will vote “Present”?
Oh, here are just TWO of Obama’s votes against the right to use a gun for self-defense IN YOUR OWN HOME!!!!
Barack Obama’s Slippery Oratory
by Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President
NRA Standing Guard – April 11, 2008
To understand Barack Obama on the Second Amendment, you have to know about the clash of character between the then-Chicago state senator and an ordinary citizen who exercised his right to armed self-defense in violation of a local gun ban.
That citizen was a 52-year-old resident of Wilmette, Illinois, who, on Dec. 28, 2003, woke to find that, during the night, his home had been invaded by a career criminal; a thief who stole household items, keys and the homeowner’s car.
The victim, Hale DeMar, described his fear in a letter to the Chicago Sun- Times: “For me, the seconds until I found my children still safely tucked in their beds were horrifying . . . The police were called and in routine fashion they came, took the report and with little concern left, promising to increase surveillance. Little comfort, since the invader now had keys to our home and our automobiles. The police informed me that this was not an uncommon event in east Wilmette and offered their condolences . . .” Not 24 hours after the first burglary, the thief returned. Using DeMar’s house keys, the man entered the home, this time setting off the alarm system, automatically notifying the security company. Given the previous night’s lackluster response by police, DeMar was prepared, armed with a handgun–legally purchased years before and kept in a safe. But under Wilmette’s gun ban, that firearm in the home was illegal.
DeMar confronted the criminal, and believing his children were in danger, shot the burglar, who then fled the home.
“Until you are shocked by a piercing alarm in the middle of the night and met in your kitchen by a masked invader as your children shudder in their beds, until you confront that very real nightmare, please don’t suggest that some village trustee knows better … “If my actions have spared only one family from the distress and trauma that this habitual criminal has caused hundreds of others, then I have served my civic duty and taken one evil creature off of our streets, something that our impotent criminal justice system had failed to do, despite some thirty odd arrests, plea bargains and suspended sentences.” The burglar, who was arrested after driving DeMar’s stolen SUV to a hospital, had an extensive criminal record.
Cook County prosecutors ultimately declared DeMar’s use of a firearm to be justified. But Wilmette village officials pressed nonetheless to prosecute him for illegal possession of his handgun–a charge punishable by a huge fine and jail time. A town official was quoted in Reason magazine saying, “We need to set the example that we’re trying to protect our citizens.” And he said, DeMar–by possessing a legally purchased handgun–”is endangering innocent civilians.” The outcry of the Illinois public was heard all the way to the state capitol.
As a result, the Illinois House and Senate passed legislation in May 2004 to protect citizens who use handguns in self-defense in their homes or businesses despite local handgun bans.
The House accepted the DeMar selfdefense bill by a vote of 86-25 and the Senate moved the legislation on a 38-20 vote.
And here lies the seminal moment for state Senator Barack Obama. When Obama turned thumbs down on the bill, he voted against the most basic element of the Second Amendment– the right of defense of self and family– the reason that millions of Americans own firearms.
When the governor vetoed the bill, Obama once again voted against a citizen’s right to self-defense.
Despite his vote, the veto override passed the Senate and the House by overwhelming majorities, thereby enacting this bill into law.
Now, fast forward to today’s slippery oratory of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama just three years from being an unknown state senator–now morphed by the media into a spellbinding u.s. senator seeking to be president of the United States.
Using words like “protecting sportsmen,” Obama is now saying that he believes in the Second Amendment … but with almost universal exceptions, all of which he lists under the heading of “common sense gun safety laws.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like endorsing the D.C. gun ban, which outlaws armed self-defense in the home–now being challenged before the u.s. Supreme Court. Obama, who as president would be in the position to nominate justices to that high court, has declared that the d.c. ban doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.
“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? In a “1998 National Political Awareness Test,” he pledged to support a “Ban [on] the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons”–meaning most handguns and many rifles and shotguns that you and I own.
“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like demanding that the federal government preempt the 40 hard-won state laws creating Right-to-Carry.
Here’s how the Chicago Tribune put it: “Obama said he opposed allowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons and that a federal law banning concealed carried weapons except for law enforcement is needed.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like the draconian proposals funded to the tune of $18,000,000 by the rabidly anti-gun Joyce Foundation while Obama was an activist member of its board of directors.
Obama’s alleged support of the Second Amendment is utterly cynical and false. Barack Obama is not for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; he`s out to destroy it.
http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=418899
At least Obama would be present, unlike bush, who’s taken more vacation time than any other sitting president.
At least Obama would be present
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But would he stand for anything??
One Thing Obama did in Chicago:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=full
Grim proving ground for Obama’s housing policy
The candidate endorsed subsidies for private entrepreneurs to build low-income units. But, while he garnered support from developers, many projects in his former district have fallen into disrepair.
Phantom
Posted September 8, 2008 at 4:25 pm | Permalink
At least Obama would be present, unlike bush, who’s taken more vacation time than any other sitting president.
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I’ve always found his quest for solice in somewhere other than Washington to be appealing. My guess is his time spent in Crawford is more highly productive than a day in Washingtion.
One Thing Obama did in Chicago:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=full
As a state senator, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee coauthored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers.
As a US senator, he pressed for increased federal subsidies. And as a presidential candidate, he has campaigned on a promise to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year.
But a Globe review found that thousands of apartments across Chicago that had been built with local, state, and federal subsidies – including several hundred in Obama’s former district – deteriorated so completely that they were no longer habitable.
**Grove Parc and several other prominent failures were developed and managed by Obama’s close friends and political supporters.
**Those people profited from the subsidies even as many of Obama’s constituents suffered. Tenants lost their homes; surrounding neighborhoods were blighted.
Some of the residents of Grove Parc say they are angry that Obama did not notice their plight. The development straddles the boundary of Obama’s state Senate district. Many of the tenants have been his constituents for more than a decade.
“No one should have to live like this, and no one did anything about it,” said Cynthia Ashley, who has lived at Grove Parc since 1994.
Obama will vacation in Bahrain.
ANTI
Posted September 8, 2008 at 4:36 pm | Permalink
At least Obama would be present
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But would he stand for anything??
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Sure, depending on the WIND direction.
Don’t you just love the new McCain ad? He fought Republicans in Washington and Palin fought Republicans in Alaska. So what should you do? Vote for the Republican candidate for President! By all means he is inspiring Republicans and conservatives to vote for the guy and gal whom fight them!
How stupid do they think the American people are?
Oh really that stupid huh?
Dog they are the new republicans. What – are the going to vote for the demo who is for change. He doesn’t want to be like the old democrats?
Sounds like Jedi WriterDog has made that final step over to the dark side.
PMom, lindainks and predestined told me anything on the Web is true!
I did? That’s news to me. Want to find that quote, Reg?
Political_mama
Posted September 8, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
outlander, if you’re the voice of reason- I’ll gladly live in loony land. I’ll be there if your people get elected once again.
You’re already there.
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Predestined
Posted September 8, 2008 at 6:08 pm | Permalink
PMom, lindainks and predestined told me anything on the Web is true!
I did? That’s news to me. Want to find that quote, Reg?
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Your agreement to bogus Web links about Palin the past few days is the only proof I need.
Piling on the bandwagon of false rumor appears to be a strong suit for you and your Lib female buddies. :)
Chas
You humorless fool!
The headline you refer to is making fun of OBAMA, asking if OBAMA will condemn Obama for the Muslim “smear” lol!
Don’t you have a date with a bacon cheeseburger somewhere testicle?
Spin it any way you want Facist… any idiot can see what was said…. And it sure the hell isnt what YOU are saying!!
My two favorite quotes from Saul Alinsky:
–”Anything that works for you will be denounced as unethical by your detractors”
–”Don’t worry, we’ll weather this storm of approval and come out as hated as ever”
OKobserver it would be so nice if they were, but to listen to them there is nothing new. I am not kidding, I had great hopes for McCain in the beginning I really did for some time he was the only Republican candidate I could have voted for. But as McCain started showing signs he had turned to the dark side of the Party. I noticed Ron Paul and he turned out to be the only Republican whom was running.
Yes McCain and Palin are neo- Republicans with desires and thoughts that are far and away from the core believes that separated the Republicans and the Democratic. That separated the Republicans from the Socialist ideology. Republicans did not believe that because we were powerful that we should force the world to adopt our believes. They did not believe that we should be using our military like a trained attack dog and ordering them to attack whom ever does not agree with us.
The Republicans do not believe that a deficiency means nothing and as long as you can buy on credit you do not need to keep track of the purse strings. Republicans believe that the best way to cut a loss it to prevent it in the first place. Not to let it happen then hope that not too many fail because of it.
McCain and Palin are a new kind of Republican and God help the Party and this country for them being so!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/politics/animal/main4414049.shtml
Fact Checking Sarah Palin- yeah she really DID cut funding for SPED.
It’s the Hegalian didactic at work — both sides trying to pull together 2 abstractly related sides against the other 2-3 sides — gives serious consideration of our 2 party systm a review — 2 parties could never possibly represent the cultures, ideals that our republic / democracy embraces \\
or as Richard Bach might say I could be wrong … but it is time for a change on how we allow our government / politic to function — reality is we the electorate have allowed ourselves to be manipulated by both parties ……… with a lot of thought and work we can change that
Cross over writerdog.
If you need one final push? Read “The Wrecking Crew” by Thomas Frank.
Fact check? Should include all of them don’t you think?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/157986/page/1
Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn’t cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.
According to an April 2008 article in Education Week, Palin signed legislation in March 2008 that would increase public school funding considerably, including special needs funding. It would increase spending on what Alaska calls “intensive needs” students (students with high-cost special requirements) from $26,900 per student in 2008 to $73,840 per student in 2011. That almost triples the per-student spending in three fiscal years. Palin’s original proposal, according to the Anchorage Daily News, would have increased funds slightly more, giving intensive needs students a $77,740 allotment by 2011.
Education Week: A second part of the measure raises spending for students with special needs to $73,840 in fiscal 2011, from the current $26,900 per student in fiscal 2008, according to the Alaska Department of Education and Early Development.
Unlike many other states, Alaska has relatively flush budget coffers, thanks to a rise in oil and gas revenues. Funding for schools will remain fairly level next year, however. Overall per-pupil funding across the state will rise by $100, to $5,480, in fiscal 2009. …
Carl Rose, the executive director of the Association of Alaska School Boards, praised the changes in funding for rural schools and students with special needs as a “historic event,” and said the finance overhaul would bring more stability to district budgets.
According to Eddy Jeans at the Alaska Department of Education and Early Development, funding for special needs and intensive needs students has increased every year since Palin entered office, from a total of $203 million in 2006 to a projected $276 million in 2009.
Those who claim that Palin cut special needs funding by 62 percent are looking in the wrong place and misinterpreting what they find there. They point to an apparent drop in the Department of Education and Early Development budget for special schools. But the special schools budget, despite the similar name, isn’t the special needs budget. “I don’t even consider the special schools component [part of] our special needs funding,” Jeans told FactCheck.org. “The special needs funding is provided through our public school funding formula. The special schools is simply a budget component where we have funding set aside for special projects,” such as the Alaska School for the Deaf and the Alaska Military Youth Academy. A different budget component, the Foundation Program, governs special needs programs in the public school system.
And in any case, the decrease in funding for special schools is illusory. Palin moved the Alaska Military Youth Academy’s ChalleNGe program, a residential military school program that teaches job and life skills to students under 20, out of the budget line for “special schools” and into its own line. This resulted in an apparent drop of more than $5 million in the special schools budget with no actual decrease in funding for the programs.
Obama has never been on the board of directors of the Joyce Foundation nice try though
Kia, WHY do you people hate childfren, and the less privileged so damned much?? It just OOzes out of you bozos!!! Damn!!
In obvious defeat, back to party catcalls and falsehoods. that serve as “talking points.”
I’d have more respect for you all if you’d just call a spade a spade.
You hate Sarah Palin because her name is followed by an (R) and she’s a Pro-Life Evangelical Christian.
That’s fine. Your right. But you all look foolish with the other crap you are pulling out of the blogosphere.
Good night now.
Kia — I dont care what Letter follows her name… could be XYZ for all I care…. and her attitudes toward SPED dont have anything to do with her religious views… at least not directly…. and as for her daughter, she should be off limits…. SO, we are left with the little stretches of truth…. like the bridge to nowhere…. which she supported, before she changed her mind…. and all the other policy stuff…. THAT is what makes me not like, or trust her…. So, cut the phony crap about her being a poor little ol’ republican, christian evangelical pentecostal, and all of that crap!! THOSE things have no bearing on my opinion of her politics….
SEE… un-like SOME on this Blog, I have NO problem keeping the Church separterd from the State, the way it is supposed to be… Her religion has little bearing on how she might govern…. UNLESS she tries to shove that religion down the throat of the rest of the nation!! THEN she will get me riled up…. So far, I have not seen that….
Over the weekend, MSNBC replaced Olbermann and Chris Matthews as co-anchors of political night coverage after the cable channel finished last in the Nielsen rankings during the two political conventions. David Gregory will take over the political desk; Olbermann and Matthews will remain as analysts.
Phil Griffin, MSNBC’s president, denied that his network has an ideology. “I think ideology means we think one way, and we don’t,” he told The New York Times.
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TELL ME IT NOT TRUE!
George Will on Thomas Frank:
“…imagine Michael Moore with a trained brain and an intellectual conscience.”
With that single back-handed compliment, Will thought he was dissing both men. Remind anyone of Hank Price? Nah, me neither!
ommunity Organizer: 5 years
Lecturer: 11 years
State Senate: 8 years
US Senate: 4 years (Last 2 years campaigning)
http://www.issues2000.org/Profile_Barack_Obama.htm
Previous Occupation: Community organizer, Chicago, 1983-88
Lecturer of constitutional law at University of Chicago Law School, 1993-2004
Previous Office: Illinois State Senate, 1996-2004; U.S. Senate, 2004-date
Education: BA, Columbia University, 1983; JD, Harvard Law School, 1991
Birth: Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Hawaii
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Please post your Vita so we can make a contrast.
Gosh, Steven, I have more degrees than Obama!! LOL
Your agreement to bogus Web links about Palin the past few days is the only proof I need.
Bogus web links? I’ve posted a link here and there, but I’m not so sure about how bogus they are. I don’t keep a record, and I haven’t posted a whole lot in the past few days. I’ve been working. If I see something interesting, I’ll post it. If you disagree, it’s your job to prove it wrong.
Piling on the bandwagon of false rumor appears to be a strong suit for you and your Lib female buddies.
False rumors, huh? The only thing I can think of at the moment was the rumor that Palin was headed back to Alaska last Thursday night. I saw the video of the network talking heads (don’t remember even who they were) and an article. Obviously, someone received erroneous information or the McCain-Palin team changed plans. Not my fault. I had two sources. How many do I need?
And I’ll also point out that I do try to mention that I don’t always know if something is true or not, but I’m passing it on. Anyone is welcome to dig a little deeper and prove it wrong. One such example I remember had to do with Babygate, and at the time I posted I was NOT convinced. But maybe you only read what you want to read in my posts and skip over the rest. That, my non-friend, is your problem, not mine.
I’ve seen out and out lies posted here by conservatives. I’ve seen smear jobs on liberals done by conservatives. I try really hard not to make politics personal. Maybe YOU and a few others should give that a try.
This entire campaign has been turned into nothing BUT rumors, but maybe keeping the republican VP wrapped in a cloak of mystery has something to do with that?
You wanna talk rumors, talk to Franklin.
If you think calling me a Liberal ranks up there with calling me a bitch, so be it. I take is as a compliment. As a Liberal, I’m very proud of having a strong sense of fair play.
It is really a hoot reading what each side says the other is going to do/for the country when they are in office as if what you write on this blog is going to make one damn bit of difference. The only thing thing that will change is who is screwing us and how far and hard they are going to stick it in. Changing Madams in the whorehouse,nothing more,nothing less
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Posted September 8, 2008 at 11:33 pm | Permalink
Gosh, Steven, I have more degrees than Obama!! LOL
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You have none at the Doctorate level. JD is the Doctorate level for lawyers.
Besides, you can’t count your mail-order degrees, you know the ones from the Bahamas and the tofu tutelage school of fine gooey textures.
And James, YOU are an ASS!!
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