Several mainstream conservative columnists are turning on the McCain-Palin ticket, both for Sarah Palin’s lack of qualifications to be president and John McCain’s cynical strategy of smears and lies. There is always some shading of truth in a campaign, on both sides. But we might have reached a tipping point at which there is bipartisan agreement that McCain has violated some basic standards of truth and fairness.
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Maybe people are starting to catch on to just how dishonest McCain has been with them. From a slam viewpoint, his repeated lying both against about Obama and for Palin, may have started the nail in the coffin.
But it’s his take on the American financial state that really looks like kooksville: The total output of the American economy is roughly 14 trillion dollars. It is estimated that the face value of derivatives floating around the world is $1.14 quadrillion. That’s 1140 trillion dollars.
Less than six months ago, McCain was for less regulation of the financial markets. Now he’s all for it, unless you take his “the economy’s okay” remark for what it is.
Derivatives are seriously complex things. they are called things like, credit default swaps, collateralized debt obligations, and mortgage-backed securities. Roughly half are listed, thus regulated. The other half are over the counter, sloppily maintained, and unregulated. McCain had no problem with that.
Warren Buffett says derivatives are “financial weapons of mass destruction.” And that’s just what savvy economists and analysts fear: a financial nuclear reaction, with one institution after another failing after one party can’t meet its obligations. “The foot bone connected to the ankle bone, the ankle bone connected to the shin bone. Oh, mercy, how they scare!” Especially when the bones all start becoming disconnected. Early this month, the federal government seized mortgage behemoths Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They have $1.6 trillion of debt outstanding, and derivatives called “credit default swaps” guarantee payment of that debt. Those debt-guaranteeing derivatives motivated the government to seize the entities. There could have been a chain reaction.
The underlying problem here is the Republicans have let Communism into the financial market in the form of state controlled institutions, while the Democrats have done nothing to stop it.
Two years ago, Obama and a few others tried, but were voted down. That’s too bad, as we are seeing the tip of the iceberg here, and it ain’t near its end. When our 401K’s start tanking, it will hit home, but by then it will be too late. This could turn into another great depression with the failing of a few major players, and the domino effect it creates.
McCain had no problem with that less than six months ago. Do want him holding the keys to your bank account and 401K? If you do, you truly deserve what you get.
We you are trying so hard but it is not working. The major conservative columnist have not turned. The following story from the link you provided is pretty interesting:
Why A Hillraiser Bolted Ranks For McCain
stumble digg reddit del.ico.us news trust mixx.com September 17, 2008 04:07 PM
The news that Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild — a prominent supporter of both Clintons who raised millions of dollars for Democrats over the years — has decided to back John McCain in November sent a small ripple throughout Washington on Wednesday.
But to top aides for Sen. Clinton and other party fundraisers, it wasn’t a surprise. A former Clinton staffer tells the Huffington Post that a full on persuasion campaign was waged early this week, with Clinton die-hards essentially begging the multi-millionaire donor and member of the DNC platform committee not to buck her party’s nominee.
At her McCain-Palin sponsored press conference Wednesday, Rothschild denied that she had heard from Hillary Clinton at all about her impending choice. While technically true, the source said there’s no way Rothschild doesn’t know how Clinton feels. “Hillary’s top people begged her not to do this,” the source said, “and she took their calls.”
The consequences of the break between Rothschild and her preferred Democratic candidate back during the primaries could be stark. “If Obama loses, what is Lynn going to do in 2012? Campaign against McCain?” the source asked. “It doesn’t make any sense. … Clinton can take her money, because everyone takes Republican money. But after November, she can’t work on any of the things she cares about, like caucus reform,” the source noted. “Will she get a big position [with Hillary]? No.”
While the Obama campaign had no official response, another well-placed Democrat from outside the Clinton camp openly mocked Rothschild’s move. “The Duke of York already had plans, so Lady de Rothschild was the next most important endorsement to reassure working Americans during the economic crisis,” the Democrat told the Huffington Post, jabbing Rothschild’s complaint that Obama strikes too “elitist” a tone for average Americans.
The Democratic source also noted a 2007 interview with Rothschild, in which she said that “we’ve had stronger economies, more wealth creation, under Democratic presidents than we have under Republican presidents.”
The implication, of course, is that Rothschild just really really hates Obama more than she supports McCain. When asked today if her move was a personal swipe at Obama, Rothschild denied it was about personalities. She touted McCain’s leadership on global warming while ignoring Palin’s statements disputing the fact that the situation is man-made. All Rothschild had to say about Palin was that “she’s pretty cool,” and that she was happy that the Republicans had nominated a woman. And while Rothschild reiterated her pro-choice beliefs, she said that abortion was being used as “a noose” around the necks of women voters.
I’d spoken to Rothschild over the phone for several stories during the past few months — along with other prominent Clinton “Hillraisers” who were somewhat skittish about backing Obama. Based on those encounters, I had a few questions for her today, the answers to which suggested that her support for McCain was less than entirely thought-through at an ideological level.
Rothschild once told me that if she were to ever support McCain, it would be “more in sadness than in anger.” Today, however, she touted her “enthusiastic support” for the McCain-Palin ticket during her press conference. When I asked her whether she still held onto any of that former sadness, Rothschild looked taken aback and said she was sad about the Democratic Party in general, as led by Howard Dean and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Another of Rothschild’s top issues during the primary was the “one person, one vote” mantra familiar to many Clinton supporters. In fact, Rothschild emailed me personally on several occasions to talk about caucus reform, describing herself as “ashamed” when the Democratic platform committee denied an amendment she supported that spelled out a firm commitment to voting rights in the primary process.
Today, when I asked Rothschild whether she would use her new influence in the McCain camp to look into charges of GOP voter suppression in Michigan, Wisconsin and Mississippi, Rothschild again looked unprepared, rocked back on her heels, and said she’d have to look into the issues more fully. “You’ve really done your research,” she said.
After the press conference, during an elevator ride with Rothschild and some McCain aides who were, apparently, staffing her, I offered that while I wasn’t surprised to see her supporting McCain, I was surprised to see her taking such a public role as a surrogate.
(At the opening of the press conference, McCain campaign workers passed out Rothschild’s impressive bio as the CEO of various companies and as a law school graduate of Columbia. And with former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina purportedly thrown under McCain’s bus for her recent gaffes, it appears there would be an opening for a new female executive out on the trail.)
“Me too,” she said. “Isn’t this an interesting election season? And we thought it was going to be boring.”
“When did you think that?” I asked.
“Oh, last year,” Rothschild replied. “And that’s probably the reason why Hillary Clinton won’t be president,” she added ruefully, before laughing at the mistaken hubris of the Clinton campaign’s onetime “inevitability.”
The GOP operatives with us in the elevator managed a few light chuckles through tight, nervous grimaces — the beginning of a very odd partnership.
Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild — she’ll fit in well with Cindy McSame, she’s quite the elitist herself.
I have to take anything the lib WE saysas a grain of salt. If there is a conservtive journalist out there then ,yes someone may not have a good word for McCain, of course it’s the same for Muslim Obama where some lib’s will support McCain. There won’t be much said about that.
Nice revisionist history, JM…now let’s see what really happened…
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Whose policies led to the credit crisis?
posted at 9:40 am on September 16, 2008 by Ed Morrissey (at HotAir.com)
The credit crisis and the lack of oversight over government-subsidized lenders like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac occurred on the watch of George Bush, and many blame his economic team for their lack of oversight in the collapse. Barack Obama has made this point one of his major campaign themes, arguing that John McCain would provide more of the same failures that Bush did. However, what many do not recall is that Bush wanted to tighten oversight with a new regulatory board for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and other government recipients for the express purpose of addressing bad loan practices — and Democrats blocked it.
The New York Times reported this five years ago:
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.
This should have been a no-brainer, right? With hindsight, we can see that the Bush administration had accurately diagnosed the problem in the lending market and had a plan to address it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reluctantly supported the plan. However, Democrats objected (emphases mine):
Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.
”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
Sounds a little like the Democratic denial of problems in Social Security, doesn’t it? Nothing to see here, no crisis on the horizon. Everybody just move along, now. The Democrats had forced lenders to assume more risk at lower interest rates in the 1990s, as IBD points out today, and they didn’t want to countenance an end to their populist policies:
But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street’s most revered institutions.
Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.
The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership. And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but “predatory.”
Yes, the market was fueled by greed and overleveraging in the secondary market for subprimes, vis-a-vis mortgaged-backed securities traded on Wall Street. But the seed was planted in the ’90s by Clinton and his social engineers. They were the political catalyst behind this slow-motion financial train wreck.
And it was the Clinton administration that mismanaged the quasi-governmental agencies that over the decades have come to manage the real estate market in America.
It was the Bush administration that wanted to rein in the madness in the credit markets, and the Democrats who wanted to extend the Clinton policies that created the crisis we have now. After the fit hit the shan, as Michelle says, these same Democrats want to shift blame back to the administration that wanted to increase oversight and curtail risk in lending practices while reducing patronage at the giant GSEs.
The Bush administration isn’t blameless in letting this get out of hand, but clearly the origins of the disaster and the efforts to keep bad policies in place fall on the Democrats in this case.
Not revisionist, smn. Who ran congress during Clinton’s watch? That would be the Republicans. It took the whole of congress to allow this mess to happen. Both parties can lay claim to this mess. And it’s far from over. If you want to lay blame, lay it on the financial institutions, lobbyists and congress. That’s a good start.
JM
Plenty of blame to go around.
But this mess wouldnt be much of a mess without the out of control Fannie/Freddie. Bush tried to do something. Should he have acted sooner? Maybe,
But when he tried the Democrats stopped him cold.
Bottom line.
As a sort of thought experiment, it’s going to be instructive, though not a bit surprising, to watch the Wingnut dead-enders who post here begin to turn on their brerhren who dare to leave the “Straight Talk” express. I can already hear Franklin shreiking that The Cabbage (i.e. David Brooks) is a traitor, and I can imagine Nathan polishing up his shooting iron in advance of teaching a lesson to the lady anchor at Fox who had the nerve to be so rude to McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds.
Sunflower5,
You want Rothschilds? Be our guest. Given that she’s a Republican (that’s what I call someone who votes for Republicans), she’s more your speed.
But if she really is being groomed to take the Fiorina spot on the McCain McSpectacle, I just hope they’ve notified her that Carly’s departure is only temporary: judging by the way Philllll Grammmmm (didn’t he sing for Foreigner?) is now back in the fold after sneering that Americans hurt by his deregulation are just “whiners,” the McCain campaign seems set on hanging on to every millionaire class warrior it can enlist-toxicity to the voters be damned.
I can’t wait to see whether the newly re-factualized Corporate Media picks up McCain’s interview on Spanish-language radio in which he CLEARLY does not know that Zapatero is Spain’s Prime Minister, and appears to lump American foreign policy towards Spain (a NATO ally) with American foreign policy towards, say, Venezuela (who expelled our ambassador the other day, and whose elected President we tried to overthrow). If this gets play, it could be the foreign policy equivalent of “the fundamentals of the American economy are strong.”
As for the actual topic of this thread…..a few conservative columinsts are not going to have any affect on McCain/Palin. Why? Because the Real People, the folks in places like Doo Dah Kansas love Palin. She’s one of them. And when they see the way the Left slimes her they take it personally. The crap the Left has pulled with her e-mail accounts is just another example. People will be pissed and it will do far more harm than good to Obama lin Biden.
Republicans have ran Congress for 8 years but it’s supposed to be the Democrats fault for Republicans not doing anything?
What’s McCain’s position?
“In financial institutions, there is no substitute for adequate capital to serve as a buffer against losses. Our financial market approach should include encouraging increased capital in financial institutions by removing regulatory, accounting and tax impediments to raising capital.”
McCain supports deregulation, the very thing that caused the problem. The source? It’s the McCain campaign website.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/bea72b48-35ba-48cb-8cea-b3b68b9be7ee.htm
As usual, McCain is more of the same.
The subject of the thread is that conservative columnists have seen enough. The ones who are grounded in reality and who place securing the interests of the country ahead of winning a partisan victory are now acknowledging that McCain is not worth the trouble. Kristol at the New York Times is still on board, however, which gives some indication that the man has undergone a level of separation from what matters in life. Or maybe Kristol pitched in somehow on McCain’s completely irresponsible decision to go with Palin, and now feels as though he needs to defend the whole thing. What’s sad is that the Republican Party does have people, women as well as men, who could have handled the VP slot. It’s one thing to oppose the other party and agree to disagree on the issues. That’s expected and an essential part of our system. It’s up to the two sides, though, to put people on the ticket who can handle the job. If the other side wins, you should be able to say, well, they’re not who I wanted, but at least they have an understanding of the world and America’s place in it. We disagree around the edges, but fair enough. Such is not the case with Palin. Palin is a novice, a right-wing extremist, and a worry.
Maggot…you claim that:
“Republicans have ran Congress for 8 years but it’s supposed to be the Democrats fault for Republicans not doing anything?”
And yet when the Pelosi Congress is faulted for not accomplishing anything, you whine that it is the Republicans that have stopped anything from happening.
Talking out of both sides of your mouth again.
“The crap the Left has pulled with her e-mail accounts is just another example.”
I’m glad you brought that up desk jockey.
Crap? You mean like exposing that Palin was using a private email to conduct government business? Her staff encouraged her to do as such private records could not be subpoenaed?
The choice of Sarah Palin has to be one of the most GLARING political blunders in history. It demonstrates that John McCain is incompetent.
“Talking out of both sides of your mouth again.”
If you haven’t noticed the House passes a lot of legislation without a problem. The Senate and the filibuster is a different story. The Democrats don’t have a majority in the Senate and the Republicans managed a record number of filibusters. Perhaps you ought to look at the facts next time.
BTW, Raptor, Pelosi became speaker of the house in 2006. Republicans were in control of the House since 1994, they deregulated the banking industry in 1999. What did they since they were in power? They just made things worse. Thanks for playing but the facts clearly restrain any rational attempts to blame the current debacle on the Democrats.
That does it Randy. You finally convinced me that it’s the Republicans spreading the lies. All that stuff about Palin and McCain is true. I’m voting Obama.
It is opposite day, right?
BTW Randy, good luck where ever it is that you are going. You are a fine writer. Badly misguided, but good.
I was referring specifically to the Democrat led HOUSE that has done less than any congress in decades. Nice diversion attempt, but I was specifically referrring to the Pelosi led US HOUSE.
That is a fact, mp. Whether you like it or not..and blaming the Republicans for it all just doesn’t wash–not when you claim earlier that the Democrats could not block anything when the Republicans had the majority.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken.
fannie and freddie does not issue debt…they buy existing mortgages
Raptor, if you need a civics lesson I can point you to after school specials which might be your level. The House passes bills, the Senate passes those same bills and the President has to sign them into law. When the Republicans filibuster in the Senate then the bills passed by the House can’t become law.
Now if you need to repeat the fifth grade to understand this….
“Crap? You mean like exposing that Palin was using a private email to conduct government business? Her staff encouraged her to do as such private records could not be subpoenaed?” - BJ
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Have you noticed that the liberals go apesh*t over the thought of the government even being able to gather basic statistical information about call patterns in order to protect the country. Yet here, a criminal hacks a private email account and posts it publically, and that is OK because they disagree with the victim politically. Sad.
No, it is just pathetic.
Maggott
It’s been the Democrats who’ve filibustered any reform of Fannie/Freddie. And that is THE central issue in this financial mess.
Heckler, do you have any support for that claim? The only time I’m aware of Democrats filibustering was in regards to telecom immunity. Kinda odd for Democrats to filibuster their own party.
annie
“fannie and freddie does not issue debt…they buy existing mortgages”
Mortages that would not be issued if Fannie/Freddie agree to buy them.
Maggott
You didnt hear about it because nobody in the media made a deal over it. The public never hears about most filibusters. The leader of one party tells the leader of the other party “I’m fillibustering your Bill, I have the votes” and thats usually the end of it. It doesnt come to the floor.
agree s/b do not agree
Raptor,
You’re making the argument TOO easy, given that Minority Leader “like my bottle tan?” went on record saying that House Republicans simply would refuse to act on Majority-sponsored legislation they didn’t like. And they haven’t. So spare us the phony comaprison: historically, Democratic House Minorities splinter rather than hang together as a partisan-obstruction spearhead. And the willingness to burn the place down rather than lose a vote so that you can change the subject for the next election is REPUBLICAN turf, thanks. “Country first” my foot.
Oh, and Repukes? I’ll concede a share of Democratic culpability for the mortgage crisis if you’ll concede that the Spiiritual Godfather of the wider market collapse is none other than…
Alan Greenspan and his Right-Wing, Ayn Randian Regulo-Phobia.
Well I found this in regards to Democratic opposition to Bush’s plan of new regulation:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
Not surprising is the date, 2003, when Republicans were in the majority. But regardless I wouldn’t be surprised that many in Congress would oppose Bush’s plan to seize more power from the Congress.
Here’s an interesting part in the article:
“The administration’s proposal, which was endorsed in large part today by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, would not repeal the significant government subsidies granted to the two companies. And it does not alter the implicit guarantee that Washington will bail the companies out if they run into financial difficulty; that perception enables them to issue debt at significantly lower rates than their competitors. Nor would it remove the companies’ exemptions from taxes and antifraud provisions of federal securities laws.”
So they’d keep on getting subsidies and would get bailed out if their risky ventures went bad. The only big difference is the President gets oversight and not the Congress. Given Bush’s record for cronyism it was wise to oppose this absurd notion that passes for regulation.
Here are some of the accomplishments of the Democratic House:
# First minimum wage increase in 10 years
# 9/11 Commission recommendations to screen all air cargo and overseas port cargo, improving communications between first responders
# Tough rules to establish highest ethical standards in Congressional history
# Most sweeping lobby and ethics reform in a generation, hailed by reform groups as “landmark reform” and “a sea of change”
# Pay-as-you-go budget discipline restored to end six years of deficit spending
# Fiscal discipline that produces a balanced budget by 2012
# A comprehensive Innovation and Competitiveness agenda to double basic research & development and reinvest in math and science education
# Emergency funding to support and equip troops, including tripling Mine-Resistant Ambush
# Protected (MRAP) vehicles in Iraq
# Tighter rules against foreign investment that weaken national security, after the Dubai Ports scandal
# Reduction of backlog on passports after 9/11 requirement through hiring boost
# Benchmarks and progress report required on Iraq
# Emergency assistance to protect children’s health coverage
# Overdue disaster aid to farmers and ranchers
# Overdue hurricane aid to rebuild Gulf Coast housing, hospitals, schools, and levees
# Emergency funding to fight wildfires
# U.S. Attorney appointments protected from political influence
# Vigorous Congressional oversight restored after six years, saving billions of taxpayer dollars, exposing corruption and incompetence
# Green the Capitol plan launched to cut carbon footprint 50%
# National Summit on America’s Children to align policies with latest science
Pretty good record, a lot of which was stopped by the Republicans in the Senate.
CF
” I’ll concede a share of Democratic culpability for the mortgage crisis”
“the wider market collapse is none other than…”
The mortgage crisis is driving the wider maket collapse CF. And Fannie/Freddie are the prime driver behind the mortgage crisis.
Yeah Scholfield, The Huffington Post is where I go for all my conservative news.
What an idiot.
There’s more of Pelosi’s list at her website:
http://www.speaker.gov/legislation?id=0053
In contrast the Republicans managed to get us into an expensive war and doubled the national debt.
No outlander it is you and your party that are sad and pathetic.
Corruption and scandal at the most base level and you will not see it…
…because of how the information was obtained.
But the books people check out? Well that’s so important for the government to know that we allowed bush to create a whole department devoted to it.
BlueJay remembers the policeman that caught weirdo Larry Craig….
“Embarrassing. Embarrassing.”
It’s been the Democrats who’ve filibustered any reform of Fannie/Freddie. And that is THE central issue in this financial mess.
No the central issue is leverage. For every real dollar the investment banks had on their books they would borrow up to 50 dollars to buy crappy loans repackage them and sell them to pension funds-insurance companies and hedge funds. They did this using short term debt which had to be refinanced on a regular basis. This worked as long as property values were escalating and the underlying value of the securities were believed to be solid.
When property values dropped and consumers could not refi into a more favorable loan the loans started to default. The banks then had to de-leverage a process that is continuing.
Baloney CF. the so called “wider market collapse” finds its genesis in the financials.
I honestly don’t know about Greenspan. However, he was was widely criticized by the right for raising interest rates to cool the “irrational exuberance” of the market back in the early 2000’s. And he has been gone for a few years now.
Maggot…do you have a learning disability? The Senate doesn’t have bills to pass because the Pelosi led HOUSE is the least productive in decades..except for the 1500 or so resolutions naming particular days in honor of something that is.
The Pelosi led HOUSE has not done much of anything. You claimed previously that it was because the Republicans in the HOUSE blocked any bills. Yet upthread you claim that when the Republicans had a majority, the Dems could not block anything.
the Pelosi led HOUSE is the least productive in decades–Wall Street Journal. There is a FACT for you mp…
“But we might have reached a tipping point at which there is bipartisan agreement that McCain has violated some basic standards of truth and fairness.”
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Hey Randy, which “bipartisan” agreement is that?
The one that says you don’t attack a candidates children? Or the one that says only the liberal press and the demorats can use a candidates lack of previous experience, or questionable associations as a disqualifier for the job?
Have any of you libtard actually LOOKED at the type of bills Sponsored or Co-sponsored by the One? You expected Palin to KNOW what the “Bush Doctorine” was. Well, before you pull that dumorat handle come november, there is a few thing I would like to see if YOU know.
1. Do you know what a community organizer does?
2. Do you know who Terrorist, William Ayers is?
3. Do you know who convicted felon Tony Rezko is?
4. How about Dr Wright?
I doubt if you know any of it. Yet YOU get to VOTE?! You just sit on your fat asses on your trailer porch eatin’ hot-pockets and wait for some libtard reporter like Randy to tell you how bad you got it. It’s the republicans fault because they are evil greedy rich guys. The demorats are going to fix everything, and who to vote for.
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If you can answer the above questions and STILL vote for the One. You have drank the Koolaide and there is very little hope for you.
Maggott
““John McCain cosponsored a bill in 2005 to create an oversight board for Fannie May and Freddie Mac because he saw warning signs of trouble. He cosponsored the FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2005. In words that now sound like prophecy, McCain said: “I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to-
the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”
Unfortunately, the bill was blocked by DEMOCRATS who complained that the oversight would prevent lenders from giving out RISKY LOANS TO THOSE WHO COULDNT AFFFORD THEM, and the bill was killed.
Read about it at “http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16
Okay Raptor, how many bills does the House have to pass before it officially become productive? The nonsense you spew is merely rhetoric and it’s pointless to point out your absurdities. I know you’d be happier if they got Americans killed and doubled the debt but you’re a Republican, so you aren’t exactly right in the head.
Sorry Heckler, McCain is already on the record for supporting deregulation. Back in 1999 he supported Gramm’s bill that deregulated the banking industry. So McCain did some token effort to clean up the mess he and his Republicans created and we’re supposed to congratulate him?
Maggotpuke
Posted September 18, 2008 at 8:11 am | Permalink
Okay Raptor, how many bills does the House have to pass before it officially become productive?
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Biggest financial crises in history….
Great time for a Rosa Parks stamp…
wouldn’t you say????
annie
“to buy crappy loans”
And who specializes in crappy loans.
I will agree that the people who packaged these loans and resold them as high grade bonds need to go to jail for a long time. A lot of folks lost a lot of money on fraudulent bond purcheses.
BUT at the core of it all is the crappy loans. Fannie/Freddie territory.
Bottom line.
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Maggotpunk
Posted September 18, 2008 at 8:13 am | Permalink
Sorry Heckler, McCain is already on the record for supporting deregulation. Back in 1999 he supported Gramm’s bill that deregulated the banking industry. So McCain did some token effort to clean up the mess he and his Republicans created and we’re supposed to congratulate him?
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You’re arm flailing Cuz,
Introduction of a bill in 2005 to create an oversight board for Fannie May and Freddie Mac by McCain is not a ‘token’ effort.
It’s freaking visionary!
Heckler- “John McCain cosponsored a bill in 2005″
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2005? That is just about the time Fannie and Freddie started dumpin money into the Ones campaign isn’t it?
“and wait for some libtard reporter like Randy to tell you how bad you got it. ”
I am well familiar with “how bad I got it”. I live it every day. And it is YOU and your party did this to us.
But I take great satisfaction in the fear that comes through in your post. Time to pay up and you know it.
Heh heh.
Maggott
Banking deregulation did not create this problem.
A glut of junk loans helped drive price inflation in the housing market which then collapsed.
The banking deregulation had nothing to do with mortage companies issueing “interest only” and low variable rate mortages to people who could not afford them.
Nancy Pelosi assumed the office of Speaker of the House of the U.S. Representatives on January 4, 2007 (that would be LESS than 2 years ago!).
Dude, the Huffington Post? Really? Schofield, you really don’t know any shame do you?
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Heckler
Posted September 18, 2008 at 8:20 am | Permalink
Maggott
Banking deregulation did not create this problem.
A glut of junk loans helped drive price inflation in the housing market which then collapsed.
The banking deregulation had nothing to do with mortage companies issueing “interest only” and low variable rate mortages to people who could not afford them.
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Roger that Heckler.
I know of a couple of families who got houses a couple of years ago. Both were up to their in credit card debt and were constantly late on even paying their normal bills, such as electric and gas.
Lo and behold, both qualified for loans, no money down and a decent percent.
I thought to myself, well this is odd. When I applied for home loans, I had to lay down big bucks for a down payment and they went back 10 years and whined about how I was late ONE TIME on a Sears payment. Thought I wasn’t going to get the loan on the house.
Sure enough, as predicted, both of these families are still in debt, are struggling to make their house payment and guess what?
- They are still late on their payment for normal bills such as utilities (gas and electric.)
No wonder there was a huge crash of these buyers of home loans - it was sheer lunacy and little better than an insane act by a group of idiots.
“The banking deregulation had nothing to do with mortage companies issueing “interest only” and low variable rate mortages to people who could not afford them.”
Then why has this happened now?
Why did the captains of the banking industry not see the underlying risk?
We had a similar thing happen in the 80’s with s&l’s that were not regulated in the same way as banks.
Google “leverage and the great depression”
Yet you feel nObama would be able to fix things after hiring the heads of Fannie and Freddie to work on his election team? One of which helped pick oBiden for him? And how much money was it these two guys direct from Fannie and Freddie to nObama’s election? More than anyone else over the past several election years.
hmmmmmm…. yeah he has the knowledge and help that can fix it… right… And nObama sees pigs with lipstick flying…
annie
“Why did the captains of the banking industry not see the underlying risk?”
Greed.
There were people who saw the risk but nobody wanted to listen.
One of the first things the Republicans did when they took control of Congress was to remove Fannie Mae’s status as a government-sponsored enterprise and allow it to be a fully privatized business. TI followed the Republican mantra of privatization (starting back with Nixon).
And we are supposed to applaud Republicans when they clean up their own mess for a change? These are the same blokes who are preaching to privatize social security and invest the money in the stock market.
I suppose if they get their wish we’re supposed to applaud when they try to clean up that mess as well.
annie
The problem isn’t that we don’t have enough regulation. We have plenty of that.
What is lacking is oversight. Oversight by someone who has the authority and the cajones to slap these companies down when they start to get stupid.
I agree Heckler.
No corporate greed in the Obama camp??
According to the Associated Press, “Raines and several other Fannie Mae top executives were ordered in a civil lawsuit to pay nearly $31.4 million for manipulating Fannie Mae earnings over a period of six years to trigger their massive bonuses.
Raines was also forced in the settlement to give up Fannie Mae stock options valued at $15.6 million.
Last year, the Securities and Exchange Commission alleged Freddie Mac had engaged in accounting fraud from 2000 to 2002, imposing a $50 million fine on the company and on four executives fines for amounts ranging from $65,000 to $250,000.
Raines currently advises Obama on housing policy.”
A stunning example of the incredible disconnect between the mainstream media and the blogosphere is this video of the interim Fannie Mae CEO, Daniel Mudd, addressing the Congressional Black Caucus, including Barack Obama, at their swearing-in ceremony in 2005. Although this video is spreading quickly in the blogosphere, you have yet to see or hear anything about it in the MSM. As you can see in the video, Mudd talks about the problems of Fannie Mae yet that didn’t keep Obama and other Democrats from taking large contributions from that organization or doing anything to try to fix it. Here is a transcript of CEO Mudd addressing the Democrats (emphasis mine):
here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
“What is lacking is oversight. Oversight by someone who has the authority and the cajones to slap these companies down when they start to get stupid.”
Well you’ll not get that from Republicans!
Read “The Wrecking Crew how Conservatives Rule”
by Thomas Frank for detailed account of why Republican led government is DESIGNED to fail.
Franklin Raines left Fannie Mae in 2004. It’s 2008 now, try to update your files.
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/
How SEC Regulatory Exemptions Helped Lead to Collapse
Posted by Barry Ritholtz on Thursday, September 18, 2008 | 06:00 AM
in Bailouts | Credit | Legal | Markets | Taxes and Policy
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The losses incurred by Bear Stearns and other large broker-dealers were not caused by “rumors” or a “crisis of confidence,” but rather by inadequate net capital and the lack of constraints on the incurring of debt.
–Lee Pickard, former director, SEC trading and markets division.
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Is Financial Innovation just another word for excessive and reckless leverage?
Apparently so.
As we learn this morning via Julie Satow of the NY Sun, special exemptions from the SEC are in large part responsible for the huge build up in financial sector leverage over the past 4 years — as well as the massive current unwind
Satow interviews the above quoted former SEC director, and he spits out the blunt truth: The current excess leverage now unwinding was the result of a purposeful SEC exemption given to five firms.
You read that right — the events of the past year are not a mere accident, but are the results of a conscious and willful SEC decision to allow these firms to legally violate existing net capital rules that, in the past 30 years, had limited broker dealers debt-to-net capital ratio to 12-to-1.
Instead, the 2004 exemption — given only to 5 firms — allowed them to lever up 30 and even 40 to 1.
Who were the five that received this special exemption? You won’t be surprised to learn that they were Goldman, Merrill, Lehman, Bear Stearns, and Morgan Stanley.
As Mr. Pickard points out that “The proof is in the pudding — three of the five broker-dealers have blown up.”
So while the SEC runs around reinstating short selling rules, and clueless pension fund managers mindlessly point to the wrong issue, we learn that it was the SEC who was in large part responsible for the reckless leverage that led to the current crisis.
You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried.
Here’s an excerpt from The Sun:
“The Securities and Exchange Commission can blame itself for the current crisis. That is the allegation being made by a former SEC official, Lee Pickard, who says a rule change in 2004 led to the failure of Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns, and Merrill Lynch.
The SEC allowed five firms — the three that have collapsed plus Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley — to more than double the leverage they were allowed to keep on their balance sheets and remove discounts that had been applied to the assets they had been required to keep to protect them from defaults.
Making matters worse, according to Mr. Pickard, who helped write the original rule in 1975 as director of the SEC’s trading and markets division, is a move by the SEC this month to further erode the restraints on surviving broker-dealers by withdrawing requirements that they maintain a certain level of rating from the ratings agencies.
“They constructed a mechanism that simply didn’t work,” Mr. Pickard said. “The proof is in the pudding — three of the five broker-dealers have blown up.”
The so-called net capital rule was created in 1975 to allow the SEC to oversee broker-dealers, or companies that trade securities for customers as well as their own accounts. It requires that firms value all of their tradable assets at market prices, and then it applies a haircut, or a discount, to account for the assets’ market risk. So equities, for example, have a haircut of 15%, while a 30-year Treasury bill, because it is less risky, has a 6% haircut.
The net capital rule also requires that broker dealers limit their debt-to-net capital ratio to 12-to-1, although they must issue an early warning if they begin approaching this limit, and are forced to stop trading if they exceed it, so broker dealers often keep their debt-to-net capital ratios much lower.
Chalk up another win for excess deregulation
The Huffington is your source? Is there a more anti American liberal slander machine than the Huffington?
I did read that the Eagle was laying people off. Maybe it’s because of your liberal agenda instead of actually reporting the news. This article is and excellent example of my point.
By the way Ann Coulter and Pat Bucannan are big time in her camp.
Excellent video ididit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
Everyone should take a look, it’s a real eye opener.
It shows that Obama’s campaign is not about change, it’s all about keep the ‘Good Old Boy Network’ of greed and corruption alive and well in Washington D.C.
We have found the enemy and it is us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7r5xZYwOx0&feature=related
“By the way Ann Coulter and Pat Bucannan are big time in her camp.”
Well, then, everything is FINE!
A partial list of lobbyists working for McCain. And He’s going to change things?
Phil Anderson: American Council of Life Insurers, Aetna, AIG, New York Life, MassMutual, VISA
Rebecca Anderson: Aegon, American Council of Life Insurers, Cigna, Barclays, Credit Suisse First Boston, HSBC
Stanton Anderson: The Debt Exchange
David Beightol: Allstate, Amerigroup, Charles Schwab, HSBC
Rhonda Bentz: VISA
Wayne Berman: American Council of Life Insurers, AIG, Americhoice, Shinsei Bank, Blackstone, Carlyle Group, Broidy Capital Management, Credit Suisse Securities, Highstar Capital, VISA, Ameriquest Mortgage, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fitch Ratings
Charlie Black: JP Morgan, Washington Mutual Bank, Freddie Mac, Mortgage Bankers Association of America, National Association of Mortgage Brokers
Judy Black: Colorado Credit Union League, Genworth Financial, Bay Harbour Management, Merrill Lynch
Kirk Blalock: Credit Union National Association, Financial Executives International, American Insurance Association, Mutual of Omaha, Zurich Financial Service Group, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco
Carlos Bonilla: Financial Services Roundtable, Freddie Mac
Christine Burgeson: Citigroup
Mark Buse: Freddie Mac, Goldman Sachs, Manufacturers Life Insurance Company
Nicholas Calio: Citigroup, Managed Fund Association, Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch, The Investment Company Institute, TIAA-CRE, Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association
Ben Nighthorse Campbell: Amscot Financial Corporation, Community Financial Services Association, Fidelity National Financial
Andrew Cantor: American Insurance Association, Merrill Lynch
Alberto Cardenas: Fannie Mae
James Courter: Goldman Sachs, Donaldson Lufkin & Jenrette, Investment Company Institute, Merrill Lynch
David Crane: Financial Services Roundtable, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Deloitte & Touche, KPMG, Ernst & Young, Bank of America, Association of Corporate Credit Unions, Freddie Mac
Dan Crippen: Merrill Lynch, National Multi-Housing Council
Arthur Culvahouse: Fannie Mae
Bryan Cunningham: Arch Capital Group
Alfonse D’Amato: AIG, Freddie Mac
Doug Davenport: Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Goldman Sachs, VISA
Ashley Davis: Prudential Financial, American Financial Group, American Premier Underwriters, Great American Insurance Company
Mimi Dawson: MassMutual
Melissa Edwards: Freddie Mac, National Association of Real Estate Investment Trusts, Access to Capital Coalition
Chris Fidler: American Bankers Association, Milcom Venture Partners, National Association Real Estate Investment Trusts
Samuel Geduldig: American Bankers Association, American Institute of CPAs, America Gains, Berkshire Hathaway, Consumer Bankers Association, Ernst & Young, Financial Services Roundtable, Investment Company Institute, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Prudential Financial, Sovereign Investment Council, Fidelity Investments, FMR Corp.
Benjamin Ginsberg: Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance, AIG Technical Services
David Girard-Dicarlo: American Financial Group, American Premier Underwriters
Juleanna Glover Weiss: RJI Capital, American Institute of CPAs, BNP Paribas, Ernst & Young, PriceWaterhouseCoopers
Slade Gorton: Allstate Insurance, Hannan Armstrong Capital
Phil Gramm: UBS Americas
John Green: Laredo National Bank, Alternative Investment Management Association, AIG, Blackstone Group, Carlyle Group, Citigroup, Credit Suisse Group, Fannie Mae, Icahn Associates, FMR Corp., AFLAC, VISA
Janet Grissom: American Institute of CPAs, NYSE, Merrill Lynch
Kristen Gullott: San Diego Credit Union
Kent Hance: Stanford Financial Group, Municipal Capital Markets Group, Inc.
Vicki Hart: American Financial Services Association, Citigroup, Investment Company Institute, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, New York Stock Exchange, VISA, Carlyle Group, Credit Suisse, Federal Home Loan Bank of Indianapolis, Goldman Sachs, National Association of Government Guaranteed Lenders, Stanford Group, Lloyd’s of London, National City Corp.
Richard Hohlt: Capmark Financial Group, Fannie Mae, JP Morgan Chase and Co., Student Loan Marketing Association, Washington Mutual, Guaranty Bank & Trust, Peachtree Settlement Funding, Dime Savings Bank of New York
Gaylord Hughey: Heartland Security Insurance Group
Kate Hull: Credit Union National Association, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Zurich Financial Services, American Insurance Association, Financial Executives International
James Hyland: American Insurance Association, Seattle Home Loan Bank, Self Help Credit Union, National Association of Bankruptcy Trustees, Merrill Lynch, Mortgage Investors Corp., Federal Home Loan Bank of Indianapolis, Freddie Mac, New York Stock Exchange, Citigroup, VISA
Aleix Jarvis: Credit Union National Association, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Financial Executives International, Mutual of Omaha, American Insurance Association, Zurich Financial Services
Greg Jenner: American Council of Life Insurers, JG Wentworth, UBS, VISA, PriceWaterhouseCoopers
Frank Keating: American Council of Life Insurers
Steven Kuykendall: California Bankers Association
William Lesher: Chicago Mercantile Exchange, Commerce Ventures, Rabobank International
Thomas Loeffler: Citigroup, Fannie Mae, Investment Company Institute, World Savings and Loan Association, United Services Automobile Association (USAA)
Kelly Lugar: RJI Capital Strategies
Peter Madigan: Arthur Andersen, Bank of New York, Broadridge Securities Processing, Charles Schwab, Deloitte and Touche, Goldman Sachs, International Employee Stock Option Coalition, Mastercard, NYSE, Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch, PNC Bank
Mary Mann: MassMutual
Paul Martino: Morgan Stanley, Baker Tilly
Jana McKeag: Venture Catalyst
Alison McSlarrow: Fannie Mae, Hartford
Mike Meece: Georgetown Partners
David Metzner: Ernst & Young, Harbinger Capital Investments, Prudential, Public Financial Management, Western Union
Susan Molinari: Freddie Mac, American Land Title Association, Association of Consumer Credit Unions, Beacon Capital Partners, College Loan Corp, Coventry First, E-Trade, Financial Services Roundtable, Rent-A-Center
John Moran: Cerberus Capital Management, American Council of Life Insurers, Accenture
John Napier: Freddie Mac
Susan Nelson: AIG, San Antonio Credit Union
Paul Otellini: Ernst & Young, Financial Services Forum
Steve Perry: Charles Schwab, Hoover Partners, HSBC, National Stock Exchange
Nancy Pfotenhauer: American Land Title Association, Mortgage Bankers Association
Elise Pickering-Finley: Credit Suisse, DE Shaw, Hartford Financial Services, Research In Motion, Retail Industry Lenders Association, URL Mutual
James Pitts: Advanced Association for Life Underwriting, AETNA, American Council of Life Insurers, AIG, Council of Insurance Agents and Brokers, Debt Advisory International, Financial Services Coordinating Council, GE Financial Assurance, Hartford Life, Jefferson Pilot Financial, Kenwood Investments, MassMutual, Mutual of Omaha, New York Life, UNUM Provident, VISA, PMI Group
Tim Powers: AP Capital, Genworth Financial, Retail Industry Lenders Association, E-LOAN, General Electric Mortgage Insurance
Walter Price: Wachovia
Sloan Rappoport: Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group, Inc. (FBR), Trafelet Delta Funds
Hans Rickhoff: Capital One, Investment Company Institute, United Services Automobile Association (USAA)
Kathleen Shanahan: New York Stock Exchange
Andrew Shore: Accenture, Retail Industry Lenders Association, Barclays, Bond Market Association, Credit Suisse, TPG Capital
Katie Stahl: Alliance for Investment Transparency, Ares Management, Fairfax Financial Holdings, Uhlmann Financial Group
Milly Stanges: TIAA-CREF
Aquiles Suarez: Fannie Mae
Don Sundquist: Freddie Mac, The Hartford
Peter Terpeluk: JP Morgan Chase, Ernst & Young, Prudential
Fred Thompson: Equitas
Jeri Thompson: American Insurance Association
John Timmons: National Association of Federal Credit Unions
William Timmons Sr.: American Council of Life Insurers, Citigroup, Dun & Bradstreet, Freddie Mac, Vanguard Group
Vin Weber: Agstar Financial Services, AKT Investment Corp., American Institute of CPAs, Ernst & Young, Freddie Mac, Louis Dreyfus Corp, PriceWaterhouseCoopers
Jeffery Weiss: JP Morgan
With the deregulation of what banking and non=banking institutions could do, the ability to monitor and regulate private industry became lacking. It was ‘the market knows best’ at its worst.
Bush just wanted a power grab on fannie and freddie. Nothing in mccain/hagle bill would have any bearing on the current crisis.
If financial institutins are going to act like banks, go to the fed window for loans, then they need to be regulated like banks, banks should not be in the wild speculation markets, they need regulation brought back to them as well.
Sarah Palin’s Wasteful Ways
Salon
She poses as a fiscal watchdog, but when Palin was mayor, she grabbed city funds to give her office a pricey “bordello” makeover.
By David Talbot
Sept. 17, 2008 | WASILLA, Alaska — Sarah Palin has been touting herself as fiscal watchdog throughout her political career. But Palin’s tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, was characterized by waste, cronyism and incompetence, according to government officials in the Matanuska Valley, where she began her fairy-tale political rise.
“Executive abilities? She doesn’t have any,” said former Wasilla City Council member Nick Carney, who selected and groomed Palin for her first political race in 1992 and served with her after her election to the City Council.
Four years later, the ambitious Palin won the Wasilla mayor’s office — after scorching the “tax and spend mentality” of her incumbent opponent. But Carney, Palin’s estranged former mentor, and others in city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish expenditure of Palin’s own after her 1996 election. According to Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds to redecorate her office, without the council’s authorization.
“I thought it was an outrageous expense, especially for someone who had run as a budget cutter,” said Carney. “It was also illegal, because Sarah had not received the council’s approval.”
According to Carney, Palin’s office makeover included flocked, red wallpaper. “It looked like a bordello.”
Latest poll shows mccain right back where he was before the convention, palin was a shooting star. The more people find out the less she shines. She circumvents supoenas by using personal email for govt. bus. (same as bush admin.), mccain can’t send an email (guess that way can’t supoena). That’s not reform, that’s more of the same.
Capt, did you forget about the “hacky” mom’s $2,500 jacket at the convention. You know, what normal folks wear. Although, it still was Pal-in in comparison to Cindy McCain’s $300,000 dress. And Republicans only get upset when you spend $400 on a haircut. If Edwards spent $400,000 on a haircut they’d applaud.
ksfarmgrrl
“By the way Ann Coulter and Pat Bucannan are big time in her camp.”
Well, then, everything is FINE!
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No it’s not fine the liberal anti-American left still has obama the muslim and the demon crats are still blind.
Regular sees the problem, but comes to exactly the wrong conclusion: “No wonder there was a huge crash of these buyers of home loans - it was sheer lunacy and little better than an insane act by a group of idiots.”
This assumes that people are more idiotic in 2003 than they were in 1998 or 1993.
They weren’t.
What changed was that CONs had forced through their deregulation that allowed banks to make riskier loans, often passing on the risk to some other party (moral hazard).
People didn’t change. The system changed because the free market prophets demanded that it change.
Good God.
Does it hurt to be as stupid and hateful as you, Kandisue?
Kandisue must be the feminine side of Paulie, there can’t really be Two like simple minded people on this little blog!
Hey CraponAmerica, Maggotpuke wouldn’t answer to this, you want to give it a shot?
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Biggest financial crises in history….
Great time for a Rosa Parks stamp…
wouldn’t you say????
Read Palin has deleted the email accounts, which could be considered destruction of evidence since the emails were being supoenaed.
Doesn’t yahoo archieve the email accounts somewhere? Bet the senders are wiping their hard drives as we speak.
The One is definately has his finger on the pulse of america…..
Lets see, the biggest complaints about the Bush Administration and some of the biggest issues America faces today. Here are a very few (I’m SURE the libtard on here can give me more but..)
1. The economy
2. The Mortgage crises
3. Iraq and Afganistan
4. Iran
5. Unemployment
6. Energy / gas prices
7. Homeland security.
8. Illegal immigration
9. Education.
You want to know how the one has been addressing these problems? (I mean what he has DONE.)
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S.Con.Res. 25: A concurrent resolution condemning the recent violent actions of the Government of Zimbabwe against peaceful opposition party activists and members of civil society.
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Or how about this one?
S.Res. 600: A resolution commemorating the 44th anniversary of the deaths of civil rights workers Andrew Goodman, James Chaney, and Michael Schwerner in Philadelphia, Mississippi, while working in the name of American democracy to register voters and secure civil rights during the summer of 1964, which has become known as “Freedom Summer”.
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S.Res. 268: A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as “National Summer Learning Day”.
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S.Res. 133: A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
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S. 2433: Global Poverty Act of 2007
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Jul 29, 2008 S.Con.Res. 96: A concurrent resolution commemorating Irena Sendler, a woman whose bravery saved the lives of thousands during the Holocaust and remembering her legacy of courage, selflessness, and hope.
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S.Con.Res. 46: A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Sickle Cell Disease Awareness Month.
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S.Con.Res. 44: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring Rosa Louise McCauley Parks.
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S.Con.Res. 5: A concurrent resolution honoring the life of Percy Lavon Julian, a pioneer in the field of organic chemistry and the first and only African-American chemist to be inducted into the National Academy of Sciences.
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S.J.Res. 23: A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
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S.Res. 628: A resolution expressing support for the designation of Disability Pride Day and recognizing that all people, including people living with disabilities, have the right, responsibility, and ability to be active, contributing members of society and fully engaged as citizens of the United States.
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S.Res. 383: A resolution honoring and recognizing the achievements of Carl Stokes, the first African-American mayor of a major American city, in the 40th year since his election as Mayor of Cleveland, Ohio.
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I think he’s done a wonderful job addressing the concerns of the american people. Don’t YOU Crapon, maggotpuke, Phaturd and peepee_mom.
ahh, so now these “conservative” columnists are the epitomy of objectivity according to ultra liberal Huffington Post?
That’s kind of like the Christians trying to prove that Islam is wrong by pointing out that Atheists think that Islam is wrong.
Yeah, Randy, what’s up with the link to the Huffington Post? Didn’t you hear that Adriana couldn’t keep her man, because he had so much boy lust? She is an angry bitter Liberal (with a capital L).
Damn right, the financial crisis is the fault of Democrats! They’re the ones who’ve had the power in Washington the last 8 years! Why the Republican party has tried to do what was right, but those mean Demon crats wouldn’t let them. Sniff, sniff.
Remember all that Obama is an Arab and the spawn of Satan. He will surrender to Al Qaeda the first chance he has!
Barney Frank in 2003 on Bush attempts to change oversight of Fannie/Freddie.
Representative Barney Frank(D-MA) claimed of the thrifts “These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Barney’s a prophet, NOT.
It’s good that some who call themselves conservative are able to see through the sham of the McCain / Palin ticket. bush has his 28 percenters and since McCain’s policies and plans are identical to those of bush his ticket will have that same loyalty.
hey lindastinks55
Who is William Ayres?
Who is Tony Rezko?
How much money did the One get from Fannie and Freddie?
McCain’s policies and plans are a part of the Republican platform (psssst! He, like millions of American voters, is a Republican).
Yeah, Bush is a Republican so there will be many similiarities with Bush.
Anyhow, which one(s) of Bush’s policies and plans has caused the US economy and the global economy to be in it’s current state?
I would think Obama would be able to explain this cause/effect relationship if he is going to pretend that he has the solution to reverse the “Bush 8 years”.
Hey lindainks,
You looking forward to speaking Arab and praying to Alah?
It may well be that the repubs. cracked palin’s email to give her cover to delete the accounts. Note that none of the contents of the emails were published, that a ‘good samaritan’ notified the senders of the ‘invasion’.
Whole thing has kind of a rove/bush stink to it.
Phantom
Calm down. Your slinging that foamy slobber all over your tin foil helmet. Don’t you know that degrades it’s effectiveness?
Good morning all. You are right about the polls Phanton. But I think everyone knew that the convention bounces were short lived on both sides.
It might just come down to whether there is a military attack or a financial crisis before the election.
“Phantom” –
Absolutely straight out of Turd-Blossom’s Play Book.
Rove is scum, of course, but I grudgingly have to admire his audacity. A lot of people might be able to think up the crap he’s pulled. But would’ve thought you could get away with it?
And how Through-the-Looking-Glass was that moment this week on the Faux Noise Channel when Karl called out McCoot for lying in his commercials?!
I suspect Rove wasn’t offended by the lies. Rather, he was insulted by the unartful execution.
I mean, “Barack Obama made it compulsory for Kindergarteners to do it ‘doggie-style!’ Before they learn to read!”
What will kill the chances of John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) will be the words: “I’m John McCain and I approved this message.”
It does sound Rovian, Phantom. But no matter who gained access to the email account it doesn’t erase the stupidity of using Yahoo mail for state business. If it was a set up will there be a scapegoat or will they be unable to track down the guilty party. And if the case is real and the guilty party can’t be tracked down that tells us a bunch too!
From what I’m reading Alaskans aren’t reacting in positively to the extra attention / interference their state is getting. The eyes of the world are on that state’s legislature and how they will handle their responsibilities.
“Campaigning as a “new face, new voice”, 28-year-old Sarah won easily. But after taking office she was dumbfounded by the inner workings of the city government. Coming from a small community, she knew everyone: the mayor, John Stein, had been in her aerobics class. “Right away I saw that it was a good old boys’ network,” she said. “Mayor Stein and Nick Carney told me, `You’ll learn quick, just listen to us’. Well, they didn’t know how I was wired.”
She voted against a pay raise for the mayor. Then she crossed Carney. He owned the only garbage removal service in town and had proposed an ordinance requiring all Wasilla residents to pay for garbage to be picked up from their homes. “I said no and I voted no,” Sarah said. “People should have the choice about whether or not to haul their garbage to the dump.” She grew increasingly impatient with politics as usual. No matter what the issue, the entanglements of political cronyism were a frustration. Too much of government was being run for the benefit of those in office. “By my second term on the council, it was apparent that things weren’t going to change unless there was a change in leadership,” she said.
Promising fresh ideas, she challenged the mayor in a contentious and heated campaign. Stein felt the sharp edge of Sarah’s competitive drive. Wasilla voters sided with her. On October 1, 1996, she defeated him, 651-440. Seizing her mandate for change, Sarah stormed city hall, not realising how hard it would be to make changes, especially in an administration that had become entrenched. “Nick Carney told Sarah to her face that he’d do anything he could to make things difficult,” said Judy Patrick, a friend who had been elected to the Wasilla council. “There were some very cantankerous people on that council.”
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Well we have heard the story about the red office which no one can find pics of and many deny ever happened. But… we do have a dispute with Carney and the good ole boy network that Palin wouldn’t go along with.
Nice try dims but this one won’t stick either and she just keeps coming back stronger. People want to know what is really happening and they don’t like what they see.
How many ‘bash Palin’ threads have we had? How about ‘bash Biden’ columns?
The dims strategy. Say it three times and it becomes truth. Isn’t working guys. BJ and Maggot you need some new material. This is stale.
Anyone with an enquiring mind can check out the lies the libs have tried to start. This too will be shot down.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/palin.asp
The bottom line is there has been a major failure of the House, Senate and the White House to protect the average American in favor of deregulation. The aftermath of which we are starting to see in the financial institution failures. ALL parties share blame on this one.
The side nonsense, such as Obama being a Muslim, not being a natural born American, etc., are there to keep people from discussing the issues wrong with this country.
Obama, in running for office, was investigated by the FBI, for one. No telling how many other initialed outfits investigated him. If any of this nonsense were true, ya think it wouldn’t come out? The people pushing this crap must think we are really stupid to think we’ll believe any of it. But from what I’ve read from the Republicans, there are a lot of stupid people out there. They are the ones that gave us Bush for eight years.
And McCains comments yesterday lead me to believe he’s just as stupid as the rest of his voters. With the average workers 401K at a -15% loss rate, we’re in great shape, huh? But keep it up, McCain, that’s the kind of statement that will get you your 28% of the voting public voting for you.
Wiretapping of suspected Terrorists
–Wrong
Hacking into private email accounts
–Right
Liberals who claim to hate hypocrisy
–Hypocrites.
The McCain/Palin/Truthless Campaign is on a downward slide and it will not regain footing. Obama is addressing needs, McCain is punishing Obama. I look forward to the debates. Obama has McCain’s goofy double talk to kick around during a debate. Obama will have to watch out for John McCain’s short ’sound bite/talking point’ glibness. Seems like GOPers really eat that crap up. Me, I want a thinking president….and that will be Obama.
Me, I want a thinking president….and that will be Obama.
Yup. Thinking about how he can spend your income.
JMtalker- But from what I’ve read from the Republicans, there are a lot of stupid people out there. They are the ones that gave us Bush for eight years.
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And you can go ahead and chalk up 4 more for McCain.
And then blame the Republicans…..
Here is the score.
Dumbocrats ran against GW.
A Wacko Environmentalist that invented the internet.
A Wacko wannabe war hero that chucked his medals.
and now you are running a Wacko community organizer with no experience and very questionable associations……..
Seriously, as long as you have the wacko left in your party determining your candidate, I’m afraid you are doomed.
Come on Demorats give us someone to vote FOR.
Ralphie you are certainly right about Obama as long as he has his portable teleprompter along.
Just what we need on the world stage. Someone that can’t get past ah……. without a teleprompter.
“Conservative columnists turn on McCain-Palin”
Well right wing radio ranter and habitual wallbanger Sean Hannity didn’t turn on her.
His face time with her was less interview than love in.
Right to his face, she lied to him. And he was not even bright enough to help her spin it.
Remember how lil’ Sarah told Charlie Gibson she did not hesitate to accept the offer?
Yeah.
Well, she told Hannity that she polled her minor children first.
Which version of the above is the truth?
How many lies are we up to for lil’ Sarah now?
I agree biased1. I would have voted for a good demo candidate just to shake up the repubs and let them know we were disappointed with what they were doing.
And look what they gave us to vote for.
Malphie- I want a thinking president….and that will be Obama.
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Is that what he’s doing, thinking?
Not much else.
Unless you want to condemn an action, celebrate a black person or put out a resolution for a stamp……
WOW.
So THATs what a thinker does…
Families talk to each other BJ. Try it. She didn’t say she let them make up her mind she said she talked to them about it. In close families that would be normal.
Well that’s not what she told Charlie there okie.
Hey, what she told Hannity DOES sound better.
Which version is the truth?
BeeJay
Posted September 18, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink
Well that’s not what she told Charlie there okie.
Hey, what she told Hannity DOES sound better.
Which version is the truth?
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The truth is…..
You lefty loonies are going to lose it for the democraps AGAIN. but hey the politics of personal destruction worked so well for you the last two elections………..
Change……..
What a f-n joke.
Well BJ this is what she was actually asked and her answer. You show me the lie.
“GIBSON: And you didn’t say to yourself, “Am I experienced enough? Am I ready? Do I know enough about international affairs? Do I — will I feel comfortable enough on the national stage to do this?”
PALIN: I didn’t hesitate, no.
GIBSON: Didn’t that take some hubris?
PALIN: I — I answered him yes because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can’t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we’re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can’t blink.”
Do you see how the question she was asked differed from what you are saying?
He said are you READY to be VP and she said without a doubt.
Show me the lie oh master of disinformation.
“It might just come down to whether there is a military attack or a financial crisis before the election.” — LLTVET
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I listened to a speech Sec. of State Rice gave this morning. It sounded like saber rattling with Russia to me.
We already have the financial crisis.
So with BOTH do we get eggroll?
“The crap the Left has pulled with her e-mail accounts is just another example.”
For those who don’t know, Palin’s Yahoo e-mail was supposedly hacked.
Before this goes mainstream, remember that KKKarl Rove once planted a listening device in his own office and then called law enforcement so that he could accuse his political opponent of bugging his office.
So far, the only e-mails that have come to light from the Sarah Palin “hacking” have been of the “why do the mean liberals hate you just because you rescue kitties?” variety.
If nothing damaging is revealed, one can assume it was a typical RepubliCON dirty trick.
Biased–
Thank God, no one can understand the incomprehensible posts you clog this place up with.
Homeschooled, eh?
“PALIN: I didn’t hesitate, no”
Not what she told Hannity. I’m gonna GUESS that the first answer was the more honest one and that what she told Hannity is the cleaned up version.
But hell okie, she could say up is down and you’d find a way to be comfortable with it.
Cap and your proof that this Rove thing happened is where? Are you and BJ the same person. You guys post more false information in one day that most posters do in a lifetime.
I have decided that you just throw it at the wall and what sticks you run with. It keeps me busy fulltime just correcting your posts.
“So far, the only e-mails that have come to light from the Sarah Palin “hacking” have been of the “why do the mean liberals hate you just because you rescue kitties?” variety.”
so what’s with all the stories about supposed state business emails being shown to exist on the hacked account?
LOL Linda. No, we only get a fortune cookie that reads. “American voters always get the President that they deserve.” MAN.\!!! I wish I could disagree with that.
So the question is: What are Americans more afraid of? Terrorists or Bankruptcy?
okobserver- Show me the lie oh master of disinformation.
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Liberal Campaign (smear) tactics 101.
1. Say it first.
2. Say it loudest.
3. Say it every chance you get.
4. Get your friends to say it.
And when confronted by facts that prove you are wrong???
5. Repeat 2-4.
BJ even when the truth slaps you in the face you just can’t handle it. You are so easy. Not even a challenge to any thinking person.
You said she said yes when asked to run. Wrong. She said yes to Gibson when she was asked if she was ready to lead. Clearly different questions. But knowing how the libs think I guess you will stand behind your lie.
You were wrong!
Biased1 did you get a copy of their playbook? I thought you had to be invited to the secret meeting, do a pinky swear and sign your name in blood to get a copy of one of those.
Everything I ever had to know to be a lib I learned in Junior High!
CraponAmerica- Homeschooled, eh?
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You can’t belive usd259 produced anything but a libturd demorat?
Bahhhhhhhh……
Bahhhhhhhh……
Capn, With regard to the purported email hacking, I think it will be very telling if a guilty party / scapegoat isn’t found. More law enforcement resources would be looking into this than if one of our email accounts had been compromised.
Sarah Palin already has your vote okobserver.
Her task now is to win mine.
Not a chance when she changes her answers on such basic questions.
How many people would delete their inbox, because of unauthorized entry? You would assume ‘damage done’ and set up a different password (maybe one involving letters and numbers!)
I don’t think this will fly with thinking people, only the bushies.
BJ Sarah Palin is so far ahead of you intelectually that you aren’t capable of understanding her answers. Ck with one of you smartest dem friends. Maybe they can help you.
I think ’smartest dem’ friends is an oxymoron.
okobserver- Everything I ever had to know to be a lib I learned “by” Junior High!
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too. true.
Junior high, no worries, no responsibilities, everything provided for you, still wondering what makes the world go around, still learning right from wrong. and the grown-ups still had to tell you what to do………..
Yep, thats a libtard alright.
If Sarah’s guilty of using her private email account to discuss public matters, Is there a law against that?
When you’re governor is your private email off limits from discussing issues relating to your job with your friends, relatives or coworkers? Do you even have a right to have a private email account?
How about a email sniffing service that combs through all “private” communication of all Republican politicians who are vying for Federal office?
And we all thought McCarthyism was dead.
You know RFL what is saddest about this entire episode which has never been shown to be about anything wrong, is that the dims see nothing wrong with mining this ladies life looking for something, anything to discredit her.
These are the same people that screamed the loudest when Bush kept the right to protect an email provider who gave up records of suspected terrorists.
The saddest part. They don’t even see how truly fake they are.
Were you folks aware that the personal computer was invented by a group of liberals back in the 70s? And the tech sector is largely liberal-run, and is the one part of the economy that is doing best to weather this storm? And the conservative-run banking and investment sector is getting everything handed to them for their failures?
Just curious if you noticed that. I hang out with liberals a lot, and some of your descriptions of liberals has me scratching my head wondering who you are talking about.
obama of the muslim faith -
RUSH: Hey, folks, you want to tweak the Drive-By Media with me right now? Want to participate in tweaking the Drive-By Media? You are aware, probably, that Barack Obama lost his bearings recently and said that he was going to campaign in all 57 states. You heard this? And everybody chalked it up to, “Well, he’s tired.” You know, this is a Dan Quayle moment. I mean, Dan Quayle goes out there and misspells potato, and we still get jokes about it. Barack Obama says he’s gonna go out and campaign in 57 states, he was just tired, you know, it’s been such a long campaign, he’s been so many places, he probably thinks there are 57 states. Well, I have here a printout from a website called the International Humanist and Ethical Union. And here is how the second paragraph of an article on that website begins. “Every year from 1999 to 2005 the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states presented a resolution to the United Nations commission on human rights called combating –” yes, H.R., get ready for the phone calls up there.
We’re participating here in a tweak of the media. Obama said he’s going to campaign in 57 states, and it turns out that there are 57 Islamic states. There are 57 Islamic states. “Every year from 1999 to 2005, the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states,” this is from the International Humanist and Ethical Union. And the title of the piece here is, “How the Islamic states dominate the UN human rights council,” and there are 57 of them. So did Obama just lose his bearings, or was this a more telling slip, ladies and gentlemen? Obama’s 57 states, not just a simple gaffe. He might have been thinking of the 57 Islamic states when he said he was going to campaign in all 57 states. (laughing) Can’t wait ’til the Drive-Bys hear about this.
Well SFreader from the comments you just made I could tell you spend a lot of time with liberals without you saying a word.
I suppose Obama didn’t want to campaign in the 3 observer states.
Give mccain his due, he invented the blackberry! Got a blackberry, that was mccain.
SFreak- Just curious if you noticed that. I hang out with liberals a lot, and some of your descriptions of liberals has me scratching my head wondering who you are talking about.
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Might I suggest you read my 12:43 post.
and then go look in your parents mirror….
the one upstairs…..
Phantacy-
Posted September 18, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink
Give mccain his due, he invented the blackberry! Got a blackberry, that was mccain.
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Hey, maybe the One could get him a stamp! Maybe he could declare Sept 18th fall blackberry day! Oh just think of it! What a TRUE LEADER!!!!
the One….
the One….
Bahhhhhhhhh…..
Bahhhhhhhhh…..
The Huffington Post? That’s your source?!
Maybe I should start a newspaper and use Limbaugh as my source for informaiton on Obama!
“And the conservative-run banking and investment sector is getting everything handed to them for their failures?”
-SFreader
Conservative-run banking and Investment sector?
Make stuff up much?
Please read below of what an EX-employee of Lehman Brothers said about the political leanings of his now bankrupt former company:
“About 70 percent of us in there are liberal Democrats, but we believe in capitalist markets and therefore I do not blame the government,” he said.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,422784,00.html
GOP senator: A ’stretch’ to say Palin is qualified Thu Sep 18
WASHINGTON - Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said his party’s vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, lacks foreign policy experience and called it a “stretch” to say she’s qualified to be president.
“She doesn’t have any foreign policy credentials,” Hagel said in an interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. “You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don’t know what you can say. You can’t say anything.”
Could Palin lead the country if GOP presidential nominee John McCain could not?
“I think it’s a stretch to, in any way, to say that she’s got the experience to be president of the United States,” Hagel said.
McCain and other Republicans have defended Palin’s qualifications, citing Alaska’s proximity to Russia. Palin told ABC News, “They’re our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”
Hagel took issue with that argument. “I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, ‘I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,’” he said. “That kind of thing is insulting to the American people.”
RFL posted September 18, 2008 at 12:51 pm
“If Sarah’s guilty of using her private email account to discuss public matters, Is there a law against that?”
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10044919-38.html
“But there was some evidence that Gov. Palin conducted work business via personal e-mail–perhaps as a way to avoid divulging data in response to a subpoena or request made under Alaska’s open government laws.”
http://www.nfoic.org/resources/states/alaska/
“BJ Sarah Palin is so far ahead of you intelectually that you aren’t capable of understanding her answers. ”
Tina Fey got Palin better than Palin knows herself.
“I can see Russia from my house!”
Wow. Some of you sound really angry. My own observation is that bankers are a more conservative lot and computer types are more liberal. Maybe it’s different in Wichita. So you’re saying that the current meltdown is the fault of those liberal investment bankers and their liberal policy of deregulation?
Randy, you linked your blog to another blog. How deceptive of you!
Now, if you want to talk about the article, go to the source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16brooks.html?_r=3&ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
And you will find ONE conservative quote criticizing Palin’s experience. (See below)
And this very same conservative opinion, IF Randy you want to say this is true of PALIN, then it is most certainly also true of OBAMA.
Even more so. Obama is running for President. Palin is not.
Try again Randy.
(Maybe 2 more Palin posts are needed later today!)
“Experienced leaders can certainly blunder if their minds have rigidified (see: Rumsfeld, Donald), but the records of leaders without long experience and prudence is not good. As George Will pointed out, the founders used the word “experience” 91 times in the Federalist Papers. Democracy is not average people selecting average leaders. It is average people with the wisdom to select the best prepared.”
B.J.
genius boy
She was contacted by the McCain campaign back in February. It’s likely that there was further discussion between them several times before he “officially” asked her.
There was probably adequate time in the interim to poll her kids.
So when he asked her “officially” she had already discussed it with family.
genius
Thanks Cosmos, but I didn’t see anything illegal about having a private email account and being Governor.
Using Private email account to avoid Divulging data? Like what? I am sure that Michelle is privy to “data” from her husband Barack that the rest of us have no clue or right to know. why is that? Because it is PRIVATE.
Oh, yeah, make everything public and then we’ll figure out what data has not be divulged.
A Private email account is called Private for a reason.
BlueJay
Posted September 18, 2008 at 1:52 pm | Permalink
“BJ Sarah Palin is so far ahead of you intelectually that you aren’t capable of understanding her answers. ”
Tina Fey got Palin better than Palin knows herself.
“I can see Russia from my house!”
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BJ tina fey is a comedian. Someones whose job is to make you laugh. For a documentary with real people and real issues ck out the History Channel, the Discover Channel but please don’t presume to tell adults that a comedian ‘does’ someone better than they do themselves.
You really must be off the meds or on the sauce today. Get out and get some fresh air. Your thought processes went stale on you.
“Experienced leaders can certainly blunder if their minds have rigidified (see:), McCain John
SFreader,
Republicans privatize profits for corporations when they are making money, they socialize the debt when they crash. So, are the ‘pubs capitalists or socialists? I guess you could say, “it kind of depends.”
MaxGrobnik
Posted September 18, 2008 at 2:06 pm | Permalink
Randy, you linked your blog to another blog. How deceptive of you!
Now, if you want to talk about the article, go to the source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16brooks.html?_r=3&ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
And you will find ONE conservative quote criticizing Palin’s experience. (See below)
And this very same conservative opinion, IF Randy you want to say this is true of PALIN, then it is most certainly also true of OBAMA.
Even more so. Obama is running for President. Palin is not.
Try again Randy.
(Maybe 2 more Palin posts are needed later today!)
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What does the truth have to do with anything?
Randy posts this anti Republican crap because he has an agenda of hate towards conservatives.
Anybody ever wonder how much the readership of the eagle would increase if they didn’t spew liberal anti conservative crap every day?
But an agenda is more important than readership or fairness.
SFreader you are starting to sound a lot like one of our dumber posters Chass. He also goes by ::, Square Peg, NorthernNeighbor, Sugar, daz, and so many more I can’t remember them all.
Well we aren’t bitter (angry). Only a lib would look at good common sense and see bitterness. Oh yes it was in SF that Obama said the midwest was full of bitter, gun toting, bible hugging, gay hating, and did I say bitter voters. Well I did say only a fool….
Keep up the charade. But could you talk to BJ. I think he is having some seperation anxiety today.
BTW no one in Wichita said anything about liberals and the meltdown. A ‘out of work’ Lehman Bros worker said that. Everyone know the libs are the dreamers and the cons are the workers.
“Everyone know [sic] the libs are the dreamers and the cons are the workers.”
A tip to those with a working cerebral cortex, whenever one reads sweeping generalizations like this, you can count on it being unadulterated bullsh*t.
okobserver posted September 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm
“BJ Sarah Palin is so far ahead of you intelectually that you aren’t capable of understanding her answers.”
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Palin continued to claim that she told Congress “thanks, but no thanks” to the bridge earmark, even after it was widely reported that bridge earmark had been killed 13 months BEFORE she took office. And she had been pro-bridge when the bridge earmark existed.
(The above stupidities probably annoyed media.)
Palin stupidly insists that widely scattered areas of gravel over a 1.5 MILLION acre area is a “little 2,000 acre plot”.
http://www.inforain.org/Northslope/anwr_3.html
Palin stupidly put real, easy to find answers in her Yahoo email password security “reminder” list, allowing it to be easily broken into.
“Randy posts this anti Republican crap because he has an agenda of hate towards conservatives.”
I get from reliable sources that Randy is Muslim, too. He wears a turbin and won’t touch his food with his left hand.
StevenEDavis
Posted September 18, 2008 at 2:18 pm | Permalink
SFreader,
Republicans privatize profits for corporations when they are making money, they socialize the debt when they crash. So, are the ‘pubs capitalists or socialists? I guess you could say, “it kind of depends.”
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Steven you of course do know that AIG is a loan and not a gift. A loan to be repaid to the American taxpayers. A loan that will keep many retirement accounts solvent until the hysteria on Wall street calms down and cooler heads prevail.
Everyone know the libs are the dreamers and the cons are the workers.
Indeed we dream up new high tech products- energy saving devices-try to save the enviroment
Cons make up bs financial products to screw the masses
Democrats say, “We don’t know what to do, so lets go on vacation and hopefully the problem will disappear. See ya next year!”.
Annie are you feeling unloved today. Maybe you need to talk to BJ and SF because they are feeling unloved today also.
Libs can spin dreams until the cows come home but it won’t accomplish anything until the cons do the work.
Anti I once worked for a very liberal group. We took lots of company paid trips. Always stayed at the best 5* hotels, ate the most expensive food, had a minimal amount of meetings and then came back to the office to do the work that wasn’t being done while we were gone.
Those libs do know how to enjoy themselves if someone else is footing the bill.
Democrats say, “We don’t know what to do, so lets go on vacation and hopefully the problem will disappear. See ya next year!”.
What free markets can’t fix themselves? The nanny state to rescue…..hey taxpayer bail us out waaaaaaaaaaahhhh
annie moose, look at what your demo congress is going.
RFL posted September 18, 2008 at 2:13 pm
“Thanks Cosmos, but I didn’t see anything illegal about having a private email account and being Governor.
Using Private email account to avoid Divulging data? Like what? I am sure that Michelle is privy to “data” from her husband Barack that the rest of us have no clue or right to know. why is that? Because it is PRIVATE.”
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Who said it was illegal for a Gov to have a private email account? Mr Strawman?
Palin is Gov of Alaska, and Alaska has an “Open Records” law. That law has provisions to keep certain communications private.
Govt sites have requirements for stronger passwords, and multiple layers of security. Govt documents kept on a less secure site (Yahoo) could be modified by hackers.
‘Experts Don’t Yahoo! Over Palin’s E-Mail Practices‘
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5830813&page=1
“The practice is dangerous, said experts, and can run counter to laws ensuring government is open and accountable — a tough point for Palin, who has made “open government” a catchphrase of her political identity.”
Heheh. It must just SUCK to be a con right now. Just look at grmie’s posts today. She sure has held a lot of jobs over the years. And what is a “liberal” group? I thought businesses were owned by hardworking conservatives? Another made up story.
Bitter? Party of one?
Your table is ready….
Heheh. It must just SUCK to be a con right now.
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Nah, not really. I’m feeling pretty good today, how ’bout you KFG?
“Govt documents kept on a less secure site (Yahoo) could be modified by hackers.”
Good Point Cosmos, if there were any goverment documents sent by Palin on her private email account, the hackers would have found it and we would know about it.
I guess, thanks to the patriotic efforts of the Hackers, we know that is not true except in your own Nixonian imagination.
annie moose, look at what your demo congress is going.?
I think you mean the Federal Reserve and Treasury
Cosmos is afraid that Palin may have sent “government documents” over her email account.
“The article posted on Gawker.com revealed snapshots of e-mail exchanges the Alaska governor had with colleagues as well as private family photos. The gossip site says the email account has since been shut down”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/18/palins-e-mail-hacked/
Batten down the hatches. Sounds likes a real security breach. Email exchanges with colleagues and private family photos in the wrong hands could be a disaster.
I see it is just another day as usual here for the EDITORS.
Obama can do no wrong while everything McCain does is scrutinized beyond a shadow of a doubt.
cosmos_originally
Palin continued to claim that she told Congress “thanks, but no thanks” to the bridge earmark, even after it was widely reported that bridge earmark had been killed 13 months BEFORE she took office. And she had been pro-bridge when the bridge earmark existed.
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Are you talking about the bridge that the radical pro baby killing liberal obama and biden both voted in favor of funding?
I have a vision of palin’s inbox.
Filled with forwarded conservative crap that she forwards on to other crappy conservatives.
And I’m quite sure all the forwarded conservative crap that fills her inbox, then her outbox, has NEVER seen the light of snopes.
Oh yeah, and there are probably false warnings and “good luck will follow if you forward this” emails.
I think that suits her level of depth. Perfectly.
I bet jesus’ general is having a FIELD day with this. I think I’ll wander over there…
“Are you talking about the bridge that the radical pro baby killing liberal obama and biden both voted in favor of funding?”
Wow. Nice try at changing the subject. Now, who else do we know that, when repubs are caught lying and cheating says “both parties do it”. Or who’s answer is always BILL CLINTON! BILL CLINTON!?
I think palin’s LIES are the subject.
But thanks for playing. We are amused, and we do encourage you to try again.
Geez, all that’s missing from candyass’s posts is the term INFANTICIDE! I’m sure he/she will get around to it.
So many con codes, so little time…
Does nathan need the waaaaaambulance again today?
What “liberal group,” Kgram?
Why is this not this instead of the racist obama?
Lots of people like Trump.
Palin for President
Trump endorses McCain on Larry King
By MIKE ALLEN | 9/17/08 10:22 PM EDT Text
Donald Trump, the flamboyant New York magnate, said on CNN’s “Larry King Live” on Wednesday night that he is supporting Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for president.
Trump, never shy with his opinions, went on to say that McCain appears to be winning, and that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) should have chosen Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) as his running mate.
“I know John McCain, and John McCain’s a great guy, a tremendous guy,” Trump told King. “I’ve known him for a long time. And I’m with him, and I’m with him based on the fact that I have great knowledge of John McCain. Also, this is not the right time for tax increases. And Obama wants to increase your taxes drastically.”
Well, maybe not your taxes. But certainly The Donald’s: Obama would repeal President Bush tax cuts for households making more than $250,000.
See Also
Financial fight: GOP hits Bush on econ troubles
Campaigns struggle to craft bailout response
Parties spar over convicted donors
During the Democratic primaries, Trump donated to Hillary Clinton, according to records posted by the Center for Responsive Politics. Trump donated to McCain in May, according to the records.
“I don’t understand why Hillary wasn’t chosen [for vice president],” Trump said. “ She was really winning. I have a friend that came to this country and was here for the last four weeks of that whole election. He said: How did she lose? She won every primary? He didn’t understand it.
“The fact is, that Obama went limping across the finish line. He should have chosen Hillary, It would have been a much different race, I believe. Right now, it looks to me like McCain is probably winning.”
During the show, the two men had this exchange:
TRUMP: I’m endorsing McCain. I am basically very strongly — you have to understand: I’ve known him. I like him, I respect him.
KING: So you’re endorsing him?
TRUMP: I think he’s going to be a great president.
KING: So you’re endorsing him.
TRUMP: Sure, I’ll endorse him on your show.
KING: You just endorsed him.
TRUMP: I endorse him.
KING: Are you pessimistic or optimistic about this financial situation?
TRUMP: Well, I’m very pessimistic.
RFL posted September 18, 2008 at 3:13 pm
“Govt documents kept on a less secure site (Yahoo) could be modified by hackers.”
Good Point Cosmos, if there were any goverment documents sent by Palin on her private email account, the hackers would have found it and we would know about it.
I guess, thanks to the patriotic efforts of the Hackers, we know that is not true except in your own Nixonian imagination.”
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My point was that hackers could modify the docs, such as changing the $ amounts in budgets.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/group-posts-e-m.html
“An index of the e-mails in her inbox, which includes sender, subject line and date sent, indicates that Palin received numerous e-mails from her aides in the governor’s office, some of which could be work-related.
An e-mail from her press secretary, Meghan Stapleton, indicates the message is about the “Motor Fuel Tax Suspension”.
The subject line of an e-mail from Randall Ruaro, her deputy chief of staff reads, “Draft letter to Governor Schwarzenegger.” Another one from Ruaro says, “Please approve” and another one is about “Court of Appeals Nominations.”
Other e-mails from Ruaro indicate they’re about employee and budget issues for the DPS. DPS is how Alaska refers to its Department of Public Safety.
Palin’s chief of staff, Michael Nizich, sent her an e-mail August 22 with the subject line, “Using Royalty Oil to Lower the Cost of Fuel for Alaskans.” The subject line of another e-mail from Nizich reads “CONFIDENTIAL Ethics Matter.”
E-mails from the governor’s scheduler, Janice Mason, indicate that they’re about Palin’s schedule for the week of August 10.”
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RFL, since you seem to be logic-challenged, I’ll point out the obvious.
Using a non-govt site allows easy deletion of docs — unlike a secure “Open Records” govt site which archives the docs long-term.
There is no way to know what govt docs were in Palin’s private email acct in the past.
I’d really like to meet Kandisue in real life, Ksfarmgrrl.
It’d be interesting to see how she functions day-to-day without the capacity to draw a single conclusion from an actual fact.
It’d be like studying the Yanamomo in South America or something.
Bizzarely fascinating.
Yanamomo? Heheheh. I knew a guy in Austin who lived with them for a while. He had these blue tattoos up each of his legs that were done with berry juice pounded into the skin with bird bones.
I wonder if kandi…uh…
nevermind.
I worked for a “five star, three martini lunch, eat drink and be merry” company one time. Literally, our expense accounts for travel had no limits.
And which liberal company was that, you might ask?
AT&T. Ya know, that bastion of liberalism…
Big eye roll.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted September 18, 2008 at 3:47 pm | Permalink
I have a vision of palin’s inbox.
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I bet you do there butch…
biased1, that was way too funny!
I can almost hear farmie drooling between keystrokes.
I don’t think farmie is Palin’s type though. Too bad.
I meant:
“drooling between key strokes.”
Farmie and Capn since you are so interested I will fill you in on my liberal employer. They were however very conservative in fiscal matters because like all insurance companies their reserves were very important and they were required to invest in low risk high return investments.
On social issues they were very liberal. There in lies the difference in the parties. Conservatives know how to make and keep money - liberals on the other hand know how to give it away. This is why we are where we are now. The libs with Dodd and Obama in the lead were in bed with Fannie and Freddie. Top 5 beneficiaries of contributed dollars from them were all democrats. Lehman Bros donated the most to the Clinton campaign.
Does this surprise anyone? But we must find out who Palin is sending pictures of her kids to. Important things first.
Mr. Scholfield,
Please validate your blog article with some sources of “Conservative” columnists that you are referring to.
Thanks!
Forget it American, Scholfield is not capable of doing any research at all.
And why would he want to?
All those conservative columnists, and Randy can’t name one of them!
Ksgrm,
I think rescuing AIG was a good idea, and it is not just because I have mutual fund investments with them. Yes, it was a loan, but a loan from our tax money. My comment about government acting in socialistic ways was aimed at the hypocrisy of the Bush administration contending that they are great free marketeers. They are until they are not.
Check out what Europeans are saying about this subject:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/business/worldbusiness/18rescue.html?scp=12&sq=aig%20bail%20out&st=cse
“validate your blog article with some sources of “Conservative” columnists that you are referring to.”
David Brooks?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/opinion/02brooks.html?em
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16brooks.html?ex=1379304000&en=6122ac6b7f0129a0&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
I dont think Ann Coulters ever been a McCain supporter
American posted September 18, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Mr. Scholfield,
Please validate your blog article with some sources of “Conservative” columnists that you are referring to.
Thanks!
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MaxGrobnik posted September 18, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Forget it American, Scholfield is not capable of doing any research at all.
And why would he want to?
All those conservative columnists, and Randy can’t name one of them!
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It seems that American and MaxGrobnik don’t know how to click on the link in the header, which has quotes from 3 conservative journalists.
During MSNBC coverage of the Republican National Convention, Republican consultant Mike Murphy and conservative columnist Peggy Noonan were overheard trashing Sen. John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin for the country’s number-two job.
“It’s over,” Noonan commented shortly after finishing a segment with NBC’s Chuck Todd. The conversation took place off camera while all three microphones were still on.
Todd asked whether he thought it was insulting that McCain passed over other highly qualified female candidates, including Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison. At one time Hutchison’s name was mentioned as a possible running mate.
“They’re all bummed out,” Murphy responded, “I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?”
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=8948140
See the video above of the accidentally left on mic overhearing these Republicans talking turkey
I knew kandisue couldn’t come up with that bs story about the 57 states of Islam. It had to come from somebody as moronic as Limbaugh, you know, that 400 million dollar brain dead mouthpiece for the brain dead non-thinking right wing morons.
Ya know, this is the United States of America. A person here is innocent until PROVEN guilty. So far, what I’ve read about this Obama/Muslim crap has been nothing but innuendo, lies and racist garbage coming from brain dead morons. I have yet to see or read one thing tying him to the Muslim religion. A verbal gaff hardly counts as proof. Unless you’re predisposed to slamming a presidential candidate for no other reason than you don’t like his color.
Let me give you an example of this illogical thinking practiced by these morons:
McCain was in a communist prison for five years. So it only makes sense he was turned, and is now a communist agent who will sell out this country in a new york minute. Hey, makes as much sense as the right wing wackos bs.
MaxGrobnik posted September 18, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Forget it American, Scholfield is not capable of doing any research at all.
And why would he want to?
All those conservative columnists, and Randy can’t name one of them!
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Sure he can, but why would he? He’d just be perpetuating the myth of right wing intelligence.
You can TELL how deflated and defeated the cons are.
Old okie grmie with all day to blog and all she can come up with is weak shots on other posters.
The sweet smell of con fear. I LOVE it!
It looks like Americans (collectively not the fastest learners) are FINALLY waking up to the scam of Republican economic policies.
If elected, McCain will put the final nail in the coffin of America’s prosperity.
Obama is the only hope left for anyone who makes less than $250K per year.
Scholfield is so biased his blog threads are even ridiculous.
Fannie Mae head calls Obama “The Conscience of Fannie Mae”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
Well, Franklin, ya got me there: Obama’s got some financier on his team. Dog gone it . . . sheesh . . . how stupid of him!
But wait: McCain’s got a few on his team also. Like over eighty (80) of them:
Phil Anderson: American Council of Life Insurers, Aetna, AIG, New York Life, MassMutual, VISA
Rebecca Anderson: Aegon, American Council of Life Insurers, Cigna, Barclays, Credit Suisse First Boston, HSBC
Stanton Anderson: The Debt Exchange
David Beightol: Allstate, Amerigroup, Charles Schwab, HSBC
Rhonda Bentz: VISA
Wayne Berman: American Council of Life Insurers, AIG, Americhoice, Shinsei Bank, Blackstone, Carlyle Group, Broidy Capital Management, Credit Suisse Securities, Highstar Capital, VISA, Ameriquest Mortgage, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fitch Ratings
Charlie Black: JP Morgan, Washington Mutual Bank, Freddie Mac, Mortgage Bankers Association of America, National Association of Mortgage Brokers
Judy Black: Colorado Credit Union League, Genworth Financial, Bay Harbour Management, Merrill Lynch
Kirk Blalock: Credit Union National Association, Financial Executives International, American Insurance Association, Mutual of Omaha, Zurich Financial Service Group, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco
Carlos Bonilla: Financial Services Roundtable, Freddie Mac
Christine Burgeson: Citigroup
Mark Buse: Freddie Mac, Goldman Sachs, Manufacturers Life Insurance Company
Nicholas Calio: Citigroup, Managed Fund Association, Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch, The Investment Company Institute, TIAA-CRE, Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association
Ben Nighthorse Campbell: Amscot Financial Corporation, Community Financial Services Association, Fidelity National Financial
Andrew Cantor: American Insurance Association, Merrill Lynch
Alberto Cardenas: Fannie Mae
James Courter: Goldman Sachs, Donaldson Lufkin & Jenrette, Investment Company Institute, Merrill Lynch
David Crane: Financial Services Roundtable, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Deloitte & Touche, KPMG, Ernst & Young, Bank of America, Association of Corporate Credit Unions, Freddie Mac
Dan Crippen: Merrill Lynch, National Multi-Housing Council
Arthur Culvahouse: Fannie Mae
Bryan Cunningham: Arch Capital Group
Alfonse D’Amato: AIG, Freddie Mac
Doug Davenport: Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Goldman Sachs, VISA
Ashley Davis: Prudential Financial, American Financial Group, American Premier Underwriters, Great American Insurance Company
Mimi Dawson: MassMutual
Melissa Edwards: Freddie Mac, National Association of Real Estate Investment Trusts, Access to Capital Coalition
Chris Fidler: American Bankers Association, Milcom Venture Partners, National Association Real Estate Investment Trusts
Samuel Geduldig: American Bankers Association, American Institute of CPAs, America Gains, Berkshire Hathaway, Consumer Bankers Association, Ernst & Young, Financial Services Roundtable, Investment Company Institute, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Prudential Financial, Sovereign Investment Council, Fidelity Investments, FMR Corp.
Benjamin Ginsberg: Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance, AIG Technical Services
David Girard-Dicarlo: American Financial Group, American Premier Underwriters
Juleanna Glover Weiss: RJI Capital, American Institute of CPAs, BNP Paribas, Ernst & Young, PriceWaterhouseCoopers
Slade Gorton: Allstate Insurance, Hannan Armstrong Capital
Phil Gramm: UBS Americas
John Green: Laredo National Bank, Alternative Investment Management Association, AIG, Blackstone Group, Carlyle Group, Citigroup, Credit Suisse Group, Fannie Mae, Icahn Associates, FMR Corp., AFLAC, VISA
Janet Grissom: American Institute of CPAs, NYSE, Merrill Lynch
Kristen Gullott: San Diego Credit Union
Kent Hance: Stanford Financial Group, Municipal Capital Markets Group, Inc.
Vicki Hart: American Financial Services Association, Citigroup, Investment Company Institute, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, New York Stock Exchange, VISA, Carlyle Group, Credit Suisse, Federal Home Loan Bank of Indianapolis, Goldman Sachs, National Association of Government Guaranteed Lenders, Stanford Group, Lloyd’s of London, National City Corp.
Richard Hohlt: Capmark Financial Group, Fannie Mae, JP Morgan Chase and Co., Student Loan Marketing Association, Washington Mutual, Guaranty Bank & Trust, Peachtree Settlement Funding, Dime Savings Bank of New York
Gaylord Hughey: Heartland Security Insurance Group
Kate Hull: Credit Union National Association, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Zurich Financial Services, American Insurance Association, Financial Executives International
James Hyland: American Insurance Association, Seattle Home Loan Bank, Self Help Credit Union, National Association of Bankruptcy Trustees, Merrill Lynch, Mortgage Investors Corp., Federal Home Loan Bank of Indianapolis, Freddie Mac, New York Stock Exchange, Citigroup, VISA
Aleix Jarvis: Credit Union National Association, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Financial Executives International, Mutual of Omaha, American Insurance Association, Zurich Financial Services
Greg Jenner: American Council of Life Insurers, JG Wentworth, UBS, VISA, PriceWaterhouseCoopers
Frank Keating: American Council of Life Insurers
Steven Kuykendall: California Bankers Association
William Lesher: Chicago Mercantile Exchange, Commerce Ventures, Rabobank International
Thomas Loeffler: Citigroup, Fannie Mae, Investment Company Institute, World Savings and Loan Association, United Services Automobile Association (USAA)
Kelly Lugar: RJI Capital Strategies
Peter Madigan: Arthur Andersen, Bank of New York, Broadridge Securities Processing, Charles Schwab, Deloitte and Touche, Goldman Sachs, International Employee Stock Option Coalition, Mastercard, NYSE, Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch, PNC Bank
Mary Mann: MassMutual
Paul Martino: Morgan Stanley, Baker Tilly
Jana McKeag: Venture Catalyst
Alison McSlarrow: Fannie Mae, Hartford
Mike Meece: Georgetown Partners
David Metzner: Ernst & Young, Harbinger Capital Investments, Prudential, Public Financial Management, Western Union
Susan Molinari: Freddie Mac, American Land Title Association, Association of Consumer Credit Unions, Beacon Capital Partners, College Loan Corp, Coventry First, E-Trade, Financial Services Roundtable, Rent-A-Center
John Moran: Cerberus Capital Management, American Council of Life Insurers, Accenture
John Napier: Freddie Mac
Susan Nelson: AIG, San Antonio Credit Union
Paul Otellini: Ernst & Young, Financial Services Forum
Steve Perry: Charles Schwab, Hoover Partners, HSBC, National Stock Exchange
Nancy Pfotenhauer: American Land Title Association, Mortgage Bankers Association
Elise Pickering-Finley: Credit Suisse, DE Shaw, Hartford Financial Services, Research In Motion, Retail Industry Lenders Association, URL Mutual
James Pitts: Advanced Association for Life Underwriting, AETNA, American Council of Life Insurers, AIG, Council of Insurance Agents and Brokers, Debt Advisory International, Financial Services Coordinating Council, GE Financial Assurance, Hartford Life, Jefferson Pilot Financial, Kenwood Investments, MassMutual, Mutual of Omaha, New York Life, UNUM Provident, VISA, PMI Group
Tim Powers: AP Capital, Genworth Financial, Retail Industry Lenders Association, E-LOAN, General Electric Mortgage Insurance
Walter Price: Wachovia
Sloan Rappoport: Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group, Inc. (FBR), Trafelet Delta Funds
Hans Rickhoff: Capital One, Investment Company Institute, United Services Automobile Association (USAA)
Kathleen Shanahan: New York Stock Exchange
Andrew Shore: Accenture, Retail Industry Lenders Association, Barclays, Bond Market Association, Credit Suisse, TPG Capital
Katie Stahl: Alliance for Investment Transparency, Ares Management, Fairfax Financial Holdings, Uhlmann Financial Group
Milly Stanges: TIAA-CREF
Aquiles Suarez: Fannie Mae
Don Sundquist: Freddie Mac, The Hartford
Peter Terpeluk: JP Morgan Chase, Ernst & Young, Prudential
Fred Thompson: Equitas
Jeri Thompson: American Insurance Association
John Timmons: National Association of Federal Credit Unions
William Timmons Sr.: American Council of Life Insurers, Citigroup, Dun & Bradstreet, Freddie Mac, Vanguard Group
Vin Weber: Agstar Financial Services, AKT Investment Corp., American Institute of CPAs, Ernst & Young, Freddie Mac, Louis Dreyfus Corp, PriceWaterhouseCoopers
Jeffery Weiss: JP Morgan
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Do you really want to go down this road, Franklin? I’ve got about 40 some more, if you really want to play this game. Whose the man with Freddie, fannie, AIG, Aetna, J P Morgan . . . they’re all there, Franklin, and they work for McCain. How many of those businesses will tank before the election? How many will this government bail out? How many of these financiers will be out of a job by the election? You got nothing.
Like Obama said, ‘If you think all those lobbyist are working night and day without pay, just to put themselves out of business, I’ve got a bridge in Alaska to sell you!’
Boxlock posted September 18, 2008 at 9:15 pm
“Scholfield is so biased his blog threads are even ridiculous.”
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Actually, this thread is about the conservative columnists who are criticizing McCain and Palin.
‘Conservative columnists turn on McCain-Palin’
Perhaps the topic is too complicated for Boxlock to understand?
BlueJay
Posted September 18, 2008 at 8:04 pm | Permalink
You can TELL how deflated and defeated the cons are.
Old okie grmie with all day to blog and all she can come up with is weak shots on other posters.
The sweet smell of con fear. I LOVE it!
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BJ I am retired and am not a young man with a family to support that spends his time in front of a computer blogging all day.
You are just too ridiculous for words. Pathetic dimwit. And I hit you with strong arguments today that blew you out of the water so the best you can come back with is that I blog all day. Well keep a mirror by your computer tomorrow and check it every now and then to see who is sitting in your chair.
okobserver posted September 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm
“BJ Sarah Palin is so far ahead of you intelectually that you aren’t capable of understanding her answers.”
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okobserver’s definition of an “intelectual” is a LIAR who does not keep their email password secure.
Palin continued to claim that she told Congress “thanks, but no thanks” to the bridge earmark, even after it was widely reported that bridge earmark had been killed 13 months BEFORE she took office. And she had been pro-bridge when the bridge earmark existed.
(The above stupidities probably annoyed media.)
Palin stupidly insists that widely scattered small areas of gravel over a 1.5 MILLION acre area is a “little 2,000 acre plot”.
http://www.inforain.org/Northslope/anwr_3.html
Palin stupidly put real, easy to find answers in her Yahoo email password security “reminder” list, allowing it to be easily broken into.
“BJ I am retired and am not a young man with a family to support that spends his time in front of a computer blogging all day.”
No you are a nasty old woman who chains her workers to her every need with cell phones.
So you have control of them even when they are not on the clock?
As to all day blogging, that’s YOUR priviledge not mine.
“You are just too ridiculous for words. Pathetic dimwit. And I hit you with strong arguments …..”
And yet you seem OBSESSED with following me around and calling me names.
You even refer to me in long blocks of time when I am not posting.
I work for a living okobserver. YOU work others for a living. And that game has worked well enough for you to “earn” you the right to obsess on me.
Hey keep it while you can. It’s all you’ve got.
Oh and okie?
I remember reading that some of your friend cons had to drop you at the disabled entrance when some of you joined up to go to the Kansas con primary.
Well this means that you are getting on in years. And if you have taught your kids as you show yourself here?
They are not gonna be there for you. They’ll be waiting for you to die.
Like you are hoping McCain will die and give you President Palin?
But I digress. SOON, I hope very soon, you will find yourself in the tender care of poorly paid nursing home attendants. I hope they are kind to you.
I wouldn’t count on it.
More re okobserver’s “intelectual”, Sarah Palin.
‘Top Republican says Palin unready‘
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7623771.stm
‘Stop the nonsense‘
“I think it’s a stretch to, in any way, to say that she’s got the experience to be president of the United States,” Mr Hagel told the Omaha World-Herald newspaper.
…
Mr Hagel also criticised the McCain campaign for its suggestion that the proximity of Alaska to Russia gave Mrs Palin foreign policy experience.
“I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, ‘I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia’,” he said.
“That kind of thing is insulting to the American people.”
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I’d add that it makes the our political process appear to be a stupid joke to everyone outside of the U.S..
IIRC, the Russian island that can be seen from a small Alaskan island is uninhabited.
JM,
Won’t work! Pall has a shrine in his closet with a candle burning for each of those financiers or fiances or whatever, and prays thrice daily for each of them not to go belly up before the election.
I tried the other day to get his opinion on the nationalization of AIG, since that’s supposedly right up his alley, but so far he’s evaded the question and refused to answer.
Methinks he’s a died-in-the-vicuna capitalist only until it loses him money, and then he becomes a radical socialist or anarchist or whatever else is personally profitable at the moment. He thinks with his wallet, which he keeps dangerously close to his…..(not heart)! Isn’t avarice one of the seven deadly ones?
cosmos_originally
Posted September 18, 2008 at 6:54 pm | Permalink
American posted September 18, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Mr. Scholfield,
Please validate your blog article with some sources of “Conservative” columnists that you are referring to.
Thanks!
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MaxGrobnik posted September 18, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Forget it American, Scholfield is not capable of doing any research at all.
And why would he want to?
All those conservative columnists, and Randy can’t name one of them!
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It seems that American and MaxGrobnik don’t know how to click on the link in the header, which has quotes from 3 conservative journalists.”
It would seem that cosmos, who is perhaps a repackaged Carl Sagan, thinks the Huffington Post is a reliable source for Conservative upon Conservative critique.
Good cartoon on Palin’s Troopergate
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/215/index.html
American posted September 19, 2008 at 6:25 pm
“It would seem that cosmos, who is perhaps a repackaged Carl Sagan, thinks the Huffington Post is a reliable source for Conservative upon Conservative critique.”
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It seems that American’s argument that David Brooks, Ross Douthat, and Richard Cohen are not conservative columnists is attacking the Huffington Post and me.
The following is a list of books that Sarah Palin tried to get banned when she was mayor of Wasilla. This information is taken from the official minutes of the Wasilla [AK] Library Board.
A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Blubber by Judy Blume
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
Carrie by Stephen King
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Christine by Stephen King
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cujo by Stephen King
Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
Decameron by Boccaccio
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Forever by Judy Blume
Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Have to Go by Robert Munsch
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Impressions edited by Jack Booth
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
Lysistrata by Aristophanes
More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
My House by Nikki Giovanni
My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara
Night Chills by Dean Koontz
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective
Prince of Tides byleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Bastard by John Jakes
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
The Shining by Stephen King
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff
Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth
And she said when she brought this up with the librarian that she was asking only about the *policy* on banning books….tsktsk
Jed…
snopes has debunked that list as a myth.
http://snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp
American posted September 19, 2008 at 6:25 pm
“It would seem that cosmos, who is perhaps a repackaged Carl Sagan, thinks the Huffington Post is a reliable source for Conservative upon Conservative critique.”
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Add another journalist to the list.
‘Palin should step down, conservative commentator says‘
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/palin-should-step-down-conservative-commentator-says/