Hard to say whether this ranks among Joe Biden’s best gaffes or comes under the heading of Could Happen to Anyone: During a visit to Columbia, Mo., Biden shouted to one of the assembled Democratic faithful, “Chuck, stand up, let the people see you.” The thing is, Missouri state Sen. Chuck Graham uses a wheelchair. The Democratic vice presidential nominee followed up with, “Oh, God love you. What am I talking about? I’ll tell you what, you’re making everybody else stand up, old pal. I’ll tell you what, everybody else stand up for Chuck. Stand up for Chuck!”
Such awkward moments are bipartisan, though. Recall how President Bush, at a Rose Garden press conference in 2006, teased a reporter who was legally blind with, “Are you going to ask that question with shades on?”
The wheelchair incident was among several suitable for addition to the Republican National Committee’s “Biden gaffe clock”: Wednesday in New Hampshire, he said, “Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me.” And in Florida recently, he referred to “the Biden administration.”
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Oh well, at least he recognized that he made a stupid comment. I don’t think any gaffe can ever compare to Bush’s sitting by and reading about goats for 7 minutes while thousands of Americans die and millions have to turn to a mayor, rather than our President, for leadership.
I still think the son-of-a-bitch knew it was coming and let it happen, Maggotpunk. And regarding 9-11; we’ve just had our national day of blubbering, name-reading, remembering, and half-masting. All that’s fine, but the rest of the people on the planet must think it’s all a bit much. The corpses in the mass graves across the world would stack up a hell of a lot higher than those two felled towers. One reason for our arrogance is nothing really, really bad has every happened to us, at least since the Civil War.
Maggotpunk,
Just finish watching that crap film fahrenheit 9/11?
Ari was in the back of the class holding a sign telling the President to not say anything:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030412182814/www.washtimes.com/national/20021007-85016651.htm
Bush was praised for his actions by the principal for not rushing out like a mad man and remaining calm.
What exactly would those 7 minutes have done Maggotpunk?
There is an entire infrastructure of command set up in this country and 7 minutes without the President seems to be only enough to annoy liberal nitwits like you.
The Maggot posts: “Oh well, at least he recognized that he made a stupid comment.”
Actually it was a comment from a stupid man.
The actual comment was the absolute truth.
What Maggot, you don’t believe in telling the truth?
“One reason for our arrogance is nothing really, really bad has every happened to us, at least since the Civil War.”
How is that supposed to be interpreted?
That you want really bad things to happen.
What an imbecilic statement. Beber go back to bed, your brain isn’t function yet…oh wait, that’s all the better it ever get as I now remember.
Beber,
And why do you believe that Bush let it happen?
What proof do you have?
Do you also believe that the moon landings were staged?
I am wondering if Biden will fight for Obama like Palin fights for McCain. So far, I haven’t seen much fight in him. Palin has been in the limelight for the past couple of weeks while Biden has been mostly, under the radar.
I guess perhaps Bidens approach is to just relax and stay out of the media as much as possible. Mabey he is patiently waiting for an opportune time? He is more experienced than Palin, so he must have a plan.
Amongst other Biden gems like:
Obama is not ready to be President
and
that Biden would be honored to run with or against John McCain. (with eh – shades of Al Gore’s running mate – Joe Lieberman which the Democrats have thrown under the bus.)
Listen for yourself to Senator “Foot-in-Mouth” Biden.
http://www.rightupfront.org/2008/08/joe-biden-obama-not-ready-to-lead.html
Biden has had years of good old boy politics, yet I see very little remarks about his background or the problems his kids have got into. But of course he is the dems candidate and the lib newsmedia will leave him pretty much along.
(Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……..This is another article designed to push Biden down and out, to make room for Heeeeelary. Don’t let anyone in on this secret)
“Bush was praised for his actions by the principal for not rushing out like a mad man and remaining calm.
What exactly would those 7 minutes have done Maggotpunk?”
If Clinton was still the President, that 7 minutes would have been enough time for Monica to do her job.
Course Clinton ignored Bin Laden, and thought the 1993 World Trade Center bombing should be handled by law enforcement.
Clinton did NOTHING to attack the terrorists after they attacked us, thus we had our chickens come home to roost on 9/11.
Typical beber response…ignore the FACTS that were presented about Biden’s missttatments and go on a tirade attacking Bush. Like that changes the FACTS of how Biden misspoke?
Had it been McCain…you KNOW beber would be jumping up and down with glee, spreading vulagarity and attacking over and over and over. But..since it is his hero Biden, he ignores the facts and tries a pathetic diversionary tactic.
Ahhh..maybe he will grow up someday and be able to discuss things like and with adults? Doubtfull, he is too busy accusing people of being “bush whores”…
“vulgarity”…not enough coffee yet to be able to spell correctly.
sorry for the error.
Biden and this topic are really funny as a crutch.
And the Leftist Libs diversion attacks are most humorous as well.
Biden’s an old hose bag embarrassment for Obama. And Obama is desparately trying to figure out how to get rid of him.
THAT is Holman’s implied topic here.
Bless his heart! I identify and have made my fair share of comments I wished I could take back. He seems to maintain his sense of humor and humility — just a regular ole joe.
Linda….very true that anyone can make a speaking error. Have you been so forgiving of others when they make a mistake? I seem to remember you jumping in to bash McCain anytime he erred in speaking.
Or doesn’t understanding human error go both ways?
Well, of course, the Obama-Biden campaign also released an attack ad, against McCain, for not using email more than he does.
The problem is?
McCain’s injuries prevent McCain from using the keyboard very much!
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTliMTNiZjg5ZDEwZWNiZDYwZWFjN2JlNjNjNjkxZmM=
“But how stupid is it for the Obama campaign to claim that McCain is unqualified to be president because he can’t grasp cyber-security issues based on the fact he has never sent an email when the McCain campaign can just as easily say Obama can’t understand first order national security issues because he’s never fired a rife, flown a plane, commanded men in battle, or faced an enemy? I mean which prepares someone to be commander in chief better, hitting “send” on AOL or fighting a war?”
Hey bloggers, note the Democrats, Maggot and Beber, at the top of this thread.
Are those the type of people that YOU want to be associated with?
Rather hateful kooks, aren’t they?
Please note also, readers, the poster called Franklin.
He is an admitted shill for the Republican party.
Why are we arguing verbal gaffes?
The GOP choice for VP wants to censor books and take away a woman’s right to choose.
Notice the continuing diversionary tactics. Rather than admit how Biden OFTEN misspeaks, it is a turn and attack tactic. Of course, whenever Palin or McCain utters the smallest mistake, it is full on attack mode.
Blinders. Sad to see such myopic vision from so many people.
Maggot would have preferred a panic so they children that were not aborted would get upset.
I am sure it was the longest 7 min. of the presidents life. But he did the right thing for the children.
I don’t think Obama could have picked a better running mate. It won’t be long before his foot sticks to his mouth. But that is the experience Obama wanted. He went to a DC insider.
Obama is struggling without his telepromters and Biden will never be quite. What more could the Republicans have asked for.
Democrat = dim ROFL
Another bash the dems. thread? (We know how to whine too!_
lindainks55 posts that Biden is “just a regular ole joe”.
But lindainks55, we want more, much more, than “just a regular ole joe” as V.P.
We want someone of Sarah Palin’s caliber, no pun intended.
Finally I think the truth has set in. The left now has had to admit that with a prez as unpopular as Bush they should have been unable to win with the weakest candidate immaginable. Instead we see a 72 year old man with a fresh new face as his VP pick cleaning their plough.
An empty suit and a ‘foot in mouth’ VP just isn’t cutting it. When was the last time you have heard Obama say what HE plans to do as prez? He only talks about Palin and McCain and the general public started paying attention. Keep it up.
The funny think is how the libs on this blog put down Fox news and yet they drawn more listeners that CNN and MSNBC do together. The general public is smarter than the left bloggers here.
okobserver posted September 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
“Finally I think the truth has set in. …
Instead we see a 72 year old man with a fresh new face as his VP pick cleaning their plough.”
It’s ironic what okobserver believes is “truth”.
‘Will McCain-Palin Lies Hurt Them?’
http://consortiumnews.com/2008/091308.html
“Despite all the chatter about how “historic” Campaign 2008 has been, it is the McCain-Palin ticket that it is truly testing the limits, not of race or gender politics, but whether the United States is ready to enter into a new dimension of political lying.”
And this thread comes to us through the courtesy of Rhonda right winger.
Biden makes verbal gaffes? Really Rhonda you do NOT wanna go there. 8 years of george bush was like Vaudeville lives again. People like you found that endearing in a “he’s folksy!” kinda way.
Palin asks about banning books and does loyalty tests.
McCain knows his pick for a heart attack away LESS well then the average person with internet access and the ability to use it.
You Libs need to be working on your list of excuses for Obama to get rid of Biden. Obama needs Heelary, a woman now, to counter the woman McCain picked.
EXCUSES FOR OBAMA TO DITCH BIDEN:
1. Joe admits he isn’t the best, hey even Joe recognizes that Heelary is the better choice.
2. Everyone knows I really hate Heelary, but now that I need a woman on my ticket, and Joe is sooooo dull, it’s time for a Change.
3. Joe just realized he has family obligations at home and doesn’t have time to VP. Joe recommended Heelary.
4. Joe’s health has made a sudden turn for the worse, and so I must choose Heelary to take his place.
5. Joe sucks, and Heelary doesn’t so, I’m going with Heelary.
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The only people I’ve heard mention replacing Biden are a couple of far-right wing conservatives on this blog. If it concerns you so much maybe you should make your list and pass along your suggestions.
Senator Biden to Quit, Hillary to Become Obama’s VP?
By Sean Osborne Friday, September 12, 2008
12 SEPTEMBER 2008: This report may be be breaking news of immense national political importance as a direct result of what the NEIN Blog has previously described as “The Palin Effect.”
According to a an exclusive source close to the Northeast Intelligence Network, the possibility exists for a major change to the Democrat presidential campaign of Barack Obama. Our source, citing other highly reliable sources, states that Senator Joe Biden will withdraw as the Democrat Vice-Presidential candidate, possibly due to some imminent medical emergency. These sources go on to state that negotiations have occured between Barack Obama and Bill Clinton to replace Senator Biden on the ticket with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4978
October Surprise Hillary Clinton? Joe Biden Gaffes and the Bush Doctrine
by Marc Centanni
Then yesterday, Biden attracted attention for telling a crowd in New Hampshire that Sen. Hillary Clinton “might have been a better pick” as Obama’s running mate.
“Make no mistake about this,” Biden said. “Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight. She’s a truly close personal friend, she is qualified to be president of the United States of America, she’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me.”
Wow. Is Biden about to take a dive?
http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212171504.shtml
The column below (yesterday’s) about Hillary Clinton replacing Joe Biden on the Democratic ticket is accurate. The column below (yesterday’s) about Hillary Clinton replacing Joe Biden on the Democratic ticket is accurate. The information is coming from very knowledgable and patriotic Americans — who are very fearful what damage an Obama presidency would do to their country.
http://hillarysupportersformccain.blogspot.com/2008/09/shocker-hillary-to-replace-biden.html
Who would the people at the Daily Kos be? Dems maybe?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/12/212315/959/123/596866
Biden must go, Hillary needs to replace him.
by Bord weall
Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 06:37:59 PM PDT
The latest rash of national polls, available on realclearpolitics.com, gives the same result as those from the last few days: McCain-Palin is up 3-4 points over Obama-Biden. While one or two of these polls might well have been fixed by exaggerating the proportion of Republicans questioned, the overall picture is far too clear and consistent to be the result of such manipulation. The enduring advantage Obama enjoyed over McCain since people got to know him better is gone.
Seems you’ve got company for your opinions. Are you working on that list and planning to share it? Maybe if you discuss it with all those other equally concerned folks you can get it done! Hurry! Time’s a wastin’.
My personal opinion is that the office of vice president would be wasted on a person of such high qualifications as Senator Clinton, and she has a very bright future no matter who is elected this fall.
I would bet some Dems here agree with this:
Come on Joe. Hillary would have been a better pick for President if the tail had not been wagging the dog. The blacks who were are more than 25% of the Democrat Party, engineered a coup that does not sit well with the overall American voting public.
After all, Obama is a black racist nurtured for some 20 years by his mentor, hate-monger Rev. Wright, “God Damn America” Rev. Wright. Hate whitey. Hate Jews. Obama also chose friendly association with the other black racist group, the Black Muslim Nation of Islam led by Minister Louis Farrakhan.
Obama is a rabble rousing street agitator seeking to extort material goods for blacks from provident people, and threating disruption and chaos if the demands were not met.
Obama is an associate of people such as “Bomber Bill” Ayers, the domestic terrorist, who is so hateful to America.
The unifying thread is that Obama and people who hate America, Wright, Farrakhan, Aters, are “simpatico.”
Obama sees the world from a ghetto perspective, a prism that largely limits his focus to race, rather than recognizing the diverse nature of the world.
And Obama is personally very flawed. His characteristics are those of a child abandoned by a father and by an unbalanced peripatetic mother, a man who is trying to exert control. Obama is a crackhead with all of the brain damage associated with use of crack cocaine. His extemperaneous comments reveal his addled thinking. He is a narcissist, whose narcissism is reinforced by his elevation on the political scene, and his delusional thinking further endowing himself with even greater imagined virtues and powers. He is bordering on psychosis. He is at best suffering from borderline personality disorder. But then, he’s not in a clinical setting.
The public can watch Obama’s posturing and subtle clues are found that identify him as an empty suit.
Put Hillary on the ticket. But replace Obama, not Biden. Biden is a tried and true warhorse with his feet on the ground. Biden is sane. Obama is severely disturbed.
Put Ms Hillary on the ticket. Replace Obama.
http://www.drudge.com/news/112233/biden-admits-hillary-would-been-better
Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Obama dumps Biden and the Hillary turns him DOWN.
Ha!
Biden: You Know Who Would Have Been A Better VP Pick? Hillary…
September 11, 2008 by AD76 · 22 Comments
I guess the number of people who think Biden was Obama’s best choice is now down to two: Barack and Michelle…
Even Obama’s mentor, Joe Biden thinks Hillary would have been a better pick for VP than himself.
If ever a campaign was destined for implosion, this is it.
http://www.puma08.com/tag/hillary/
That would be hillarious Box, but can you see Heelary turning down Power?
And Heelary would all of a sudden be pushing for Shall Issue laws in DC. heh heh heh
Linda,
You are so forgiving of Biden for his little mistakes… but when Palin doesn’t answer the question on tjhe “Bush Doctrine” by looking good or knowing exactly what Gobson was talking about… you are not so forgiving.
Biden’s exit IS being discussed Linda, whether you wear rose colored glasses or not.
The exit excuse is the tough part. They’re still working on that. (And I’ve already helped them with that!)
And when Clinton comes back, so do all the scandals and skeletons.
Hsu, etc…..
Nathan ponders mindlessly:
“What exactly would those 7 minutes have done Maggotpunk?”
Oh let’s see. He could have used those minutes to order all flights to be grounded. You know, the sort of thing that would have made it easier to identify possible other planes being used to destroy buildings.
However your suggestion would be to do absolutely nothing and let it pass. That’s why Republicans like you and Bush show a complete lack of competence on national defense issues.
Maggotpunk,
Onec again, what would those 7 minutes have done?
Would grounding all flights 7 minutes sooner have made a significant difference? Really?
Just another dumb talking point for someone like you to get all hung up on.
“Biden’s exit IS being discussed Linda, whether you wear rose colored glasses or not.”
——-
Thanks for the heads up, Max! Guess no one will be surprised and we’ll be able to say we read it here first. We’ll all be singing your praises and talking about how Max knew it way before it became “news.”
Okay Nathan, let’s examine this scenario. A plane is carrying a nuclear device which will destroy New York City. You have a window of seven minutes to which get a plan into action to down that plane.
A competent President would make the order to take down the plane.
You, and an incompetent President would sit and read My Pet Goat.
Thank goodness people like you aren’t given the responsibility to defend our country.
Maggotpunk,
Wow, so now all of a sudden you believe in a 24 type scenario?
Ok. A bomb is set to go off in 7 minutes somewhere and the only person who knows where it is and how to stop it wont talk.
Will you torture that person to get the information?
LOL
I see by your continued answers you’d sit by and do nothing. That’s what you do for the nation Nathan, absolutely nothing. Well, nothing positive anyway. Are you like Palin and pray for the destruction of America?
I see by your continued answers you’d sit by and do nothing. That’s what you do for the nation Maggotpunk, absolutely nothing. Well, nothing positive anyway. Are you like Biden and pray for the destruction of America?
Nathaniel posted September 13, 2008 at 8:06 am
“Bush was praised for his actions by the principal for not rushing out like a mad man and remaining calm.”
———
So the only 2 possible reactions of the U.S. Commander in Chief are “rushing out like a mad man”, OR continue reading ‘My Pet Goat”?
Why couldn’t he explain that he needed to handle a problem, and then calmly walk out of the classroom?
As usual Nathan, you have proven yourself not only a moron but a liar as well. Then again, if you are a moron are you aware that you are lying? Probably not. So I should just call you a moron. If anyone disagrees and thinks you aren’t a moron I just need to remind them you think the Earth is 6,000 years old (just like fellow nutter Palin).
Cosmos, I wonder how the sailors and marines at Pearl Harbor reacted when the Japanese started bombing? If Nathan was on the U.S.S. Arizona he would have kept on reading his porn mags while everyone else jumped into action and defended their fellow Americans.
Maggotpunk,
I see that the only thing you have in any discussion we have is to point out my belief in a Young Earth.
When you can’t ever stand up to me in a discussion without bringing that up, that says far more about your stupidity than mine.
Maggotpunk,
I am one of the few posters here who is actually prepared to defend others, my family, or myself.
People like you routinely mock me for being so prepared.
Now you try to imply that I wouldn’t fight if attacked?
What an idiot you are.
“Nathaniel” tries —
“…the only thing you have in any discussion we have is to point out my belief in a Young Earth.
When you can’t ever stand up to me in a discussion without bringing that up, that says far more about your stupidity than mine.”
Oh, I dunno.
A “Young Earth” is about as stupid as stupid gets.
That’s your starting point, boy.
Most of us who clash with you on this forum are burdened with trying to bring you up to speed with reality.
Nothing in this thread has anything to do with the age of the Earth.
How is that relevant here?
It only shows that instead of being able to stand up to me in a discussion on the subject all you can do is divert it to something else to mock and make fun of me.
That shows far more weakness on your part than mine.
Nathan whines:
“I am one of the few posters here who is actually prepared to defend others, my family, or myself.”
Provided you aren’t reading a book at the time. That begs the question, do you even read books?
Maggotpunk,
Use of “begging the question” in the context you did is frowned upon.
It is actually the term for a logical fallacy which has been incorrectly made popular to be used in the context you just did.
Try using the term “raising the question” instead.
I’ll take that as a no.
Maggotpunk,
You should learn to deal with the reality that you are simply outclassed in any discussion between you and I.
The only thing you have on your side is to bring up irrelevant topics to try to make fun of me with or to make some snide personal comment.
That is all you got.
You can’t even use logical terms correctly in a discussion with me and you atempt to imply that I don’t read books?
Oh, I’m sorry. I’ll answer your incredibly stupid question.
Yes, I do read books.
The fact is Nathan you are so stupid you don’t know you’ve been pwned. I could spend all night pointing out how moronic you are but I just need to remind you that you believe in a 6,000 year old Earth. That pretty much dispels any notion that you have a grasp on reality.
“Why couldn’t he explain that he needed to handle a problem, and then calmly walk out of the classroom?”
And do what cosmos, he had no real information at that point.
I would venture to guess how you would have handled it though….you would have started crying and promptly defecated in your pants, while screaming “too much CO2, I can’t breath, there’s too much CO2!!!”
Maggotpunk,
Once again, what does my belief in a Young Earth have to do with this discussion?
Attacking me personally instead of sticking to the topic only shows weakness on your part and your argument here.
Obviously you feel so threatened by your complete inability to have a discussion with me that you must introduce irrelevant things to the discussion in an attempt to attack me.
That is the classic lgocial fallacy of argumentum ad hominem.
As I said, you are simply outclassed in a discussion with me. The sad thing is that you are not man enough to admit it or simply don’t care.
Wasn’t it more like 14 minutes that Bush sat with the deer in the head light look doing nothing while the country was under attack? Theirs a quite the gap in response between doing nothing and pants pissing/arm flailing screaming “were all gonna die” A sorry kids something came up probably would have sufficed. Lots of thing he could have done a phone call to the joint chiefs, find out whats going on, get in the loop, call his family make sure their OK, give the Air force Authority to shoot down civilian planes, finding out id Martial Law needed to be implemented, or order evocations, getting to a TV and Watching the news would have at least showed some curiosity. And lets not forget that he went to the school knowing that a plane had already hit one of the towers.
Nathan, perhaps you could go to the corner store and pick up some tissue. It still won’t help with your scientific illiteracy or inability to grasp basic concepts of reality. It must be painful to wake up every morning realizing that you are on the lower end of the bell curve.
Correct, TomP.
That’s been the right-wing talking point for 7 years now–”what was he supposed to do, run screaming from the room?!”
Yes.
He was supposed to get up off his dead ass and get going.
It’s called leadership.
The RepubliCONs wouldn’t know it if it hit them in the face.
BTW, why does God hate Houston?
MaggotPunk is correct.
Anyone capable of deluding themself that the Earth is only 10 thousand years old instead of the correct scientific age of 4.5 billion years old is not worth talking to.
That’s why I just put him on ignore.
Maggotpunk,
I already have tissue right here. No need to go to the store. I have had a runny nose the last few days.
Again, what does that have to do with the subject?
Scientific Leteracy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_literacy
So, please tell me exactly, why you think I am scientifically illiterate for my beliefs?
I “grasp” the “basic” concepts just fine. I simply don’t believe some of the things that others do.
My mother is a Chiropractor. I hardly ever wake up in any pain and when I do I simply go see her for an adjustment.
What does the bell curve have to do with this discussion and how does one end up on the lower end of it in such a general sense?
Please explain.
CapnAmerica,
You realize that you are talking with someone who denies the existence of any God don’t you?
Here you are, someone who claims to believe in God, yet you denounce me for what I believe?
How many times must I point out to you that for you to believe in God that at some point you do not believe in what science says either.
By your own standards you are not worth talking to either. You should ignore yourself.
Liberals are amazing.
They criticize Bush, for the way Bush has SUCCESSFULLY defended America.
Yet —
Liberals support Obama, who’s friend, former boss and political supporter is terrorist William Ayers, who was in an article, in the New York Times, on 9-11-01, saying he had not “done enough” bombing of buildings.
William Ayers bombed the Pentagon.
William Ayers and Obama are close friends.
At the same time that those airplanes hit the World Trade Center, there were copies of the New York Times newspapers, being read, in those buildings, which contained the article about terrorist William Ayers! Ayers BRAGGED about his bombings. Ayers was still bragging about blowing up 30 different buildings, long after 9-11-01.
Biden also speaks highly of John McCain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpcxkKlEFA
Riiiiight Paul. Bush has defended America and I have defended the planet against alien invasion. I was able to do so with my 22 years of foreign policy experience. I’m that good.
A discussion are not the first to do this however. However, if you win, you get to take home up to 7 minutes. The President raised.