As dumb as Obama, McCain come?

Though it’s early yet, the Politico Web site has rounded up the eight worst gaffes of the campaign so far: 1) Barack Obama’s “bitter” comment about people who “cling to guns or religion.” 2) John McCain’s inability to say how many homes he owns. 3) Obama offering a “special shout-out to my pastor (now former, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright). The guy who puts up with me, counsels me.” 4) McCain saying “the issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.” 5) Obama saying in a primary debate, “You’re likable enough, Hillary.” 6) McCain’s comment that staying in Iraq for 50 or 100 years would be “fine with me . . . as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed.” 7) Obama saying, “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” 8) McCain admitting that he’s computer “illiterate.”

116 Comments

  1. JMWalker
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    Gaffes are made by both sides. So what? To define an election by gaffes doesn’t require much intelligence, which explains why the neo-cons are freaking out over the “My Muslim Faith” quote.

  2. HLP
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 6:18 am | Permalink

    Nah, Walker, the gaffe of the day is, (maybe the campaign) “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.”

    Or, maybe it really wasn’t a gaffe. Little Barry might have actually been stupid enough to think that remark funny and appropriate!

  3. StevenEDavis
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    The “lipstick on a pig” comment was very light in the context of the hate speech eminating from Republican convention. A big yawn in fact.

  4. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    Very appropriate, what is pitbull somehow more politically correct?

  5. HLP
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 6:40 am | Permalink

    Just in from the Obama campaign!

    Sarah Palin is the devil! A reliable witness has come forth to testify that Demon Palin broke wind in church when she was 4 years old. Another witness is ready to testify that she watched an ‘R’ rated movie on HBO 5 years ago. This person is not fit to govern and should be turned out of her office as Governor of Alaska and definitely is unfit to be Vice President.

  6. Heckler
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 6:45 am | Permalink

    StevenEDavis

    From yesterday.

    “Palin = big oil whore”

    Was wondering if you could explain that one for me.

  7. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 6:52 am | Permalink

    Speaking of oil, OPEC announced they’re cutting output to shore up oil prices, lord help the drill nowers if opec decides to offset any increased production we might achieve. Guess they won’t think about doing that, keep your fingers crossed!

  8. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    So palin can infer that hockey moms are bitches wearing lipstick, and that’s supposed to be ok, but Obama can’t talk about pigs?

  9. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    Actually, Obama said you can wrap a fish in newspaper but it still smells like fish.

  10. Heckler
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Phantom

    First of all the reference to Pit Bulls was non gender specific. You infer the bitches part.

    Second, imagine McCain making a similar reference to Obama’s wife. OHHHH the schitt storm that would ensue……

    Third, how long is it going to take the Obama team to figure out that flyover country identifies with Palin as one of their own. Any personal attacks on her are seen as attacks on middle America. And Obama continues to make demeaning references about “the folks” in flyover. He’s living proof that a Harvard education does not make you smart.

  11. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    “Second, imagine McCain making a similar reference to Obama’s wife. OHHHH the schitt storm that would ensue……” — the wefu

    Actually, McCain made that exact comment about Hillary. — http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/10/politics/animal/main4433795.shtml

    Is the wefu being overly sensitive because Palin is a pig? No, she is a normal looking woman of 44 who works out a bit more than our wives.

    Well, I hesitate to publish this link, as I suspect it will cause the wefu to, er, retire for a few minutes, but here goes: http://www.alaskaseafood.org/industry/enews/092607govpalinfish.jpg

    I found a link yesterday which showed the young Palin displying a bit of pale breast, but I see this morning it has been expunged. Too bad.

  12. StevenEDavis
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    StevenEDavis

    From yesterday.

    “Palin = big oil whore”

    Heckler,

    Google “big oil, palin” and you will get 752K returns. One example of many:

    http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=67981&sectionid=3510303

  13. Heckler
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    Steven

    Have you read this one?

    snip
    The Senate Judiciary Committee, which has jurisdiction over monopolies, was chaired from 1981 until 1995 by Democratic Senator Joe Biden, who also conducted no oversight whatsoever over anti-trust enforcement and acquiesced in the de facto immunity of energy cartels from anti-trust enforcement.

    From 1983 to 2003, by making substantial campaign contributions to Democrats and Republicans alike, multinational cartels became the sacred cows in both Alaska and Washington and enjoyed de facto immunity from both federal and state regulation. In that regard, Frank Murkowski, who in 2003 became the first Republican Governor since Jay Hammond, perpetuated a corrupt status quo.

    From 2003 to 2004 Sarah Palin served on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, until resigning in protest over what she called the “lack of ethics” of fellow Republican Governor Murkowski. After she resigned, she exposed the lack of ethics of the state Republican Party’s chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners. Mrs. Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned.

    During her tenure as Governor of Alaska Mrs. Palin, with no aid from federal anti-trust enforcers, has fought alone in the front line of the battle against multinational energy cartels. While Congressional Democrats have capitulated to the oil cartels, she has increased taxes on their OPEC induced profits, launched a gas pipeline, balanced Alaska’s budget, and also remitted earnings from oil royalties to Alaska’s citizens.
    http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272622583.shtml

  14. Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    The biggest gaffe of the campaign is McCain putting that brood sow Sarah Palin on the ticket.

    I can’t wait til it comes out that she’s a second hand mattress for her husband’s best friend.

  15. Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    It appears the list tried to be balanced but McCain could have easily won every spot. McCain doesn’t know the different Islamic factions in the Iraqi occupation. McCain picked Palin. McCain isn’t aware of the existence of the Czech Republic. McCain thinks Putin is the President of Russia, not the Prime Minister. McCain picked Palin. Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. McCain thinks Iran is training members of Al-Qaida even though Al-Qaida has declared Iran a mortal enemy. McCain has flip-flopped on practically every position he held back in 2000. Oh yes, and McCain picked Palin.

    http://flipflop.bi30.org/

  16. Heckler
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    B.J.

    Check your shorts dude.

  17. outlander
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    BJ is one of those wildly cheering Democrats who sure thought that Obama was slyly referring to Sarah Palin with his “lipstick on a pig” comment.

    Whether he was or he wasn’t, he sure stepped in it. The nut ball lefties liked it, but the voters Obama is trying to court, not so much. Even giving the appearance of insulting the lady is either brazen or stupid.

    Not worthy of a man who wants to be president.

  18. Boxlock
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    These are more than just “gaffes”, this shows the mental workings of an incompetent.

    Obama is magnificent reading a tele-prompter but he’s a high school level debater- maybe that’s unfair to the high school debaters- without one.

    This man is SO totally unprepared and unqualified to be President. Click below:

    Another stunning Obama tape has emerged. In a weekend appearance, Obama stumbled over his words in a way that would have received round-the-clock coverage had it been George W. Bush. In a second clip, Obama blames it on sleep deprivation. This is the guy who wants to run your health care.

    You Tube Obama Videos, Obama Gaffes:
    These take a few seconds to load, but it does eventually, and is well worth it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc

  19. Boxlock
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    B.J. makes a grotesquely lurid series of allegations, fantasies, half-truths and outright lies about Palin. What a tacky low…well, not for B.J. I guess, that’s his norm.
    What a freak you are B.J.

  20. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    The “lipstick on a pig” was originally part of the primary campaign stump speech of John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term).

    And “sexist?” Last I heard, there were pigs of both genders.

    Nitwit whiners.

  21. Boxlock
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    It should be very clear from this ‘youtube’ that Obama is shallow, demeaning, and in no way ready to lead this country, and it’s becoming more apparent every time he opens his mouth.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZd_Y_D-RaA

  22. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    Boxlock- In a weekend appearance, Obama stumbled over his words in a way that would have received round-the-clock coverage had it been George W. Bush.
    —————————
    Was that the “change defense?”
    That was hilarious, about three minutes of the One stammering, uh, ur, republican, err, shake-up washington, err, uh their change, is uh, more of the same, ur, uh we have change, uh, err, and, lipstick on a pig, uh, err…

    I was like….What?

  23. mcs7584
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    It sure would be nice, for once, if people would talk about why their candidate is qualified to be the next president as opposed to talking about why the other candidate isn’t. No wonder there’s such voter apathy in the US.

  24. GMC70
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    Cripes.

    There isn’t ONE of us – not one – who hasn’t stumbled over a word, misspoke, or expressed themselves poorly. It’s called being human.

    We just don’t do it in the national spotlight, where every word, every act, every misstep is jumped on by a “gotcha” mentality from a media looking to drive ratings and the nutjob extremists on both ends of the political spectrum.

    And then you have the truly twisted nutjobs like JR who simply makes sh** up. If you’re looking for the path to the truly lowest of the low, look no further.

    Years ago, Gerald Ford slipped on slick, rainy steps coming down from Air Force One. For same, he was endlessly skewered. Yet there is not a single one of us who hasn’t done the same; we simply didn’t do before the cameras in the national spotlight. Same for the little missteps seen here.

    If there are substantive disagreements with policy statements, real issues of character, suitable preparation, or fitness for office, fine. But “gaffes,” those little moments we all have where we slip up, really don’t matter.

    Give it a rest. Glass houses. Remember? We all live in them.

  25. jomama315
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    What a great choice for the most important role in our government… They are both arrogant asses, I don’t even WANT to vote this year…

  26. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Seems to be many in the Obama camp are pissed they didn’t get Hillary as the #1 or #2 slot. Now that the Republicans have a strong, working, Pro-Life Mom they take out their rage against Palin.

    Imagine a pro-life woman. I mean jeez, that in and of itself gets them in a lather.

    Sucks to be you.

  27. gster
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    I could never vote for Obama/Biden because Joe Biden can’t field dress an aardvark with his teeth, and that is an important quality for a VP to process. Sorry guys!

  28. mcs7584
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Here we go again.

  29. Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Obama does about four or five public appearances a day, McCain barely manages one. Considering the exhausting schedule of Obama it should be predicted that he’d fumble over more words yet senile coot McCain manages a lot more.

  30. Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    Remember, Palin has executive experience, like a manager at a Taco Bell.

  31. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    GMC70- There isn’t ONE of us – not one – who hasn’t stumbled over a word, misspoke, or expressed themselves poorly. It’s called being human.
    ———————-
    True, but I also find, that if I’m being questioned about something I truely believe in or taking a stand against, and I have taken the time to know the subject or programs merits or shortcomings…….
    doesn’t happen quite so often……..
    I also don’t make a living in politics…..

  32. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    Remember folks, it was the failed policies of Americas self proclaimed “First Black President”…..

    That caused 9-11….

  33. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Remember, Palin has executive experience, like a manager at a Taco Bell.

    And remember, Obama doesn’t even have that.

  34. Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Hey biased?

    Seven years now. And STILL Osama bin Laden remains at large.

    Now that is either george bush CAN’T catch a 7 foot Arab leashed to a dialysis machine…

    or he doesn’t want to.

    I have my own suspicions. What say you?

  35. lindainks55
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    Video wraps up what you get from a president who can’t speak or think without gaffes.

    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/bush_tours_america_to_survey

  36. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    BeeJay
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:12 am | Permalink
    Hey biased?

    Seven years now. And STILL Osama bin Laden remains at large.

    Now that is either george bush CAN’T catch a 7 foot Arab leashed to a dialysis machine…

    or he doesn’t want to.

    I have my own suspicions. What say you?
    —————————
    Well, since we haven’t been attacked since, I’d say “at large” is pretty small….

    Maybe if the self proclaimed “First Black President” had taken care of business the three or four times he had opportunities to…….

  37. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Now that is either george bush CAN’T catch a 7 foot Arab leashed to a dialysis machine…

    And should Obama win the office? Can we measure Obama’a success in the same light?

  38. mom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    First of all the reference to Pit Bulls was non
    gender specific. You infer the bitches part
    ____
    Actually, what Palin said was ‘you know what the difference between a hockey ‘mom’ and a pitbull is? Lipstick.’

    ‘Mom’ infers the female gender and if Republican men are wearing lipstick, then that is another story for another thread!

  39. Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    When Obama is trying to refute that he is not a Muslim, but a Christian…

    What are the first words out of his mouth?

    “My Muslim Faith”

  40. lindainks55
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    They’re trying hard to remember to wipe it off when they leave public restroom stalls and closets.

  41. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    “biased1″ proclaims –

    “…if I’m being questioned about something I truely believe in or taking a stand against, and I have taken the time to know the subject or programs merits or shortcomings…….”

    I’ll apply the “biased1″ test to the Moose-Dresser’s answers, should she ever make any, to legitimate questions about policy.

    So far, she’s the Gaffe that Keeps on Giving, as when she got it a clean 180-degrees wrong on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bailout (which the Shrub Administration said — a month ago — would not be necessary.

    Her Bridge to Nowhere lie keeps getting repeated because that’s the speech she’s been programmed with learned.

    This morning McCain introduced Todd Palin and said, “If he can race a snow machine a thousand miles in 40-below-zero weather, he can handle anything Washington hands him.”

    Huh?

    What’s Todd’s role in this campaign? What’s Todd gonna be in a hypothetical McCoot Administration?

    Look who’s playing the Sexist Card. “Todd will bring along the requisite testosterone to the Trophy Veep’s service. And while he’s raced snow machines in 40-below weather, Joe Biden’s wimpy first wife, Neilia, went and died in a piddly little Christmas shopping car wreck.”

    Damn. I should work for Karl Rove.

  42. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    BeeJay
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:12 am | Permalink
    Hey biased?
    Seven years now. And STILL Osama bin Laden remains at large.
    ————————
    What will the One do?
    1. Write an executive order condemning Osama Bin Laden.
    2. Write an executive order commemorating his first executive order.
    3. Write an executive order that expresses the sense that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring michelle obama.
    4. Call the U.N.

  43. Boxlock
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    Whoa, I think the DimLib candidates should in fact be very afraid.

    Sarah Palin was observed reading a book on her way to a campaign stop entitled….

    “An Illustrated Guide to Field Dressing a Donkey”

    Though I think she has already mastered that!

  44. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Monkeyboy- Joe Biden’s wimpy first wife, Neilia, went and died in a piddly little Christmas shopping car wreck.”
    ——————
    Wasn’t a kennedy driving by chance…….

  45. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    This morning McCain introduced Todd Palin and said, “If he can race a snow machine a thousand miles in 40-below-zero weather, he can handle anything Washington hands him.”
    – Thanks to Monkeyhawk

    That would be a drink. Most snowmobilers are drunks. I’ve been to Alaska.

  46. Predestined
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Years ago, Gerald Ford slipped on slick, rainy steps coming down from Air Force One.

    Then there was the golf ball that hit a fan in the head…

    Face it, Ford was afflicted with Klutz. Doesn’t mean he was a bad man, but he sure did have his moments of klutziness.

    Kinda like Dubya and his bicycles.

    mcs7584 is right. Let’s hear “why their candidate is qualified to be the next president as opposed to talking about why the other candidate isn’t.”

    BTW, mcs7584, the conservatives on this blog have been asked that question several times and have yet to answer it.

  47. GMC70
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Remember, Palin has executive experience, like a manager at a Taco Bell.

    And remember, Obama doesn’t even have that.

    —-

    Some truths are just too painful. And too funny. And too true.

    We are watching the Obama campaign unravel with its goal in sight.

    When is the Obama campaign gonna realize that all these orchestrated attacks by his surrogates, the daily dose of Kos-slop (and we see their syncophants this blog daily) dumped on Palin, are not playing well in “flyover country?” They see Palin as one of their own. His attacks on her just reinforces his image as an East Coast elite.

    Each of these slime attacks – the baby was really Bristol’s; the “she cut special needs budget by 60%”; the “bookbanning;” the per diem “scandal,” and now the “rape kit” crap, etc. etc. – have been thoroughly debunked, each distorted half-truth or, more often, no truth at all.

    Yet they keep coming. And their mouthpieces here (Capn, CF, P-mom, among others) keep trotting them out. Keep it up; you’re hurting your candidate far more than you’re hurting the McCain/Palin ticket.

  48. Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    mcs7584 is right. Let’s hear “why their candidate is qualified to be the next president as opposed to talking about why the other candidate isn’t.”
    ———————
    Answered many times. Non-acceptance of answers doesn’t mean they are wrong responses.

  49. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Does John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) own another suit?

    We all know the Arizona Beer Queen spent something like $300,000 a night for the outfits she wore at the Republic Party convention. Remember that clingy chromakey-green number that looked like it was made out of a discontinued ShamWow, and the $800 shoes that were molded to her feet by imported Italian cobblers?

    Okay, the country club bling-bling diamonds and pearls skewed Cindy’s per diem wardrobe budget; we don’t know whether she bought them just for the occasion. But do you think we’ll ever see that yellow monstrosity with the Elvis-at-the-Flamingo collar again? Looked like something from the Prymaat Conehead couture collection.

    But McCodger keeps wearing that same frumpy black suit from the Men’s Wearhouse bargain rack. He makes John Fiedler look like a GQ model.

    And he wears it everywhere. On the golf course in George HW Bush’s cart. When he’s serving up dry-rub to his media lackeys. When he’s checkin’ out Quayle with a rack his Moose-Dressing running mate.

    The same damned suit.

    And he keeps the coat buttoned to hide his belt-at-the-armpits when he goes the full Fred Mertz.

    Should fashion sense make a difference in a presidential election? Why not? It’s about as stupid as most CONs’ rants

  50. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Predestained-mcs7584 is right. Let’s hear “why their candidate is qualified to be the next president as opposed to talking about why the other candidate isn’t.”
    ——————————-
    Probably because its alot like picking between a elephantshit sandwich on white, or a muleshit sandwich on dark rye.
    Either way….

  51. gster
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    MH- That’s really funny!

  52. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Okay, the country club bling-bling diamonds and pearls skewed Cindy’s

    DAMN her for her family’s wealth!!!

    Moose-Dressing running mate.

    DAMN her for being Alaskan.

    Why do you hate women so much Monkey?

  53. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    It’s about as stupid as most CONs’ rants

    Kinda like all the lies the LIBs have been spreading here huh?

  54. gster
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Looking at the above photograph, I can’t help but wonder if McCain every had trouble with a short arm inspection while in the Navy.

    His response ” Uh, which one?”

  55. Boxlock
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Senator McCain was asked by a reporter “How do you respond to critics who say your running mate lacks the executive experience to take over as President?”.

    He responded, “Are you talking to me OR Sen. Biden?”

  56. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Attack minors. Attack women. Attack physical disabilities.

    Y’all are truly class acts.

  57. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    gster
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:00 am | Permalink
    Looking at the above photograph, I can’t help but wonder if McCain every had trouble with a short arm inspection while in the Navy.
    —————————————
    “short arm” caused by improper treatment while he was a POW. He was a war hero. Fighting for the country that allows you to sleep comfortably every night in your pissed stained bed………

  58. gster
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    ““short arm” caused by improper treatment while he was a POW. He was a war hero. Fighting for the country that allows you to sleep comfortably every night in your pissed stained bed………”

    I had no knowledge,and would agree with you, except for the bed part.

  59. Monkeyhawk
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    According to Bush/Cheney, John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term)was NOT “tortured!”

    He was merely exposed to “Enhanced Interrogation Techniques.”

  60. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    When Obama was 24 he gave up a potential career working for a wealthy law firm in order to serve his country and organize a community of over 100,000 people who were affected by the failure of Reaganomics. In the Republican warped mindset that doesn’t qualify as executive experience because leading an organization isn’t really executive experience if you don’t have a big paycheck.

    On the other hand when Palin was 24 she was reporting on the score of basketball games.

    McCain was probably crashing a plane.

    Biden was graduating with a double major in history and political science and went on to become the fifth youngest Senator in U.S. history.

    While Biden was taking on Slobodan Milosevic, Palin was starting her political career by raising the sales tax on the people of Wasilla. Obama founded the group Public Allies and served on the board of Woods Fund of Chicago, Joyce Foundation and numerous other organizations (much more executive experience than Palin and McCain combined). McCain was finished crashing planes and was working with President Kerry on establishing diplomatic ties with Vietnam and looking for lost POWs.

    In this election there are three people with the experience to lead this nation, and then there is Sarah Palin who thinks shooting wolves from airplanes is actual hunting.

  61. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Monkeyboy proclaims- Damn. I should work for Karl Rove.
    Should fashion sense make a difference in a presidential election? Why not?
    —————————–
    1. Karl Rove would not let you troll all day on ALgores internet.
    2. Because most voters aren’t gay.

  62. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    ““short arm” caused by improper treatment while he was a POW. He was a war hero. Fighting for the country that allows you to sleep comfortably every night in your pissed stained bed.”

    Yes, and since we withdrew we are in danger of invasion from the Viet Cong. Vietnam wasn’t a matter of national security, it was a political war based upon lies.

    McCain sustained his injuries in a plane wreck (number five). He then received the Republican health care plan while imprisoned.

  63. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Maggotpuke- “affected by the failure of Reaganomics”
    ————————
    is that what chicago call years of failed liberal policies and domination……”Reaganomics?”

  64. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Guess which one is an elitist:

    A person with seven homes, worth $100 million, and his wife wears $300,000 outfits.

    A person from the poorest part of Chicago who recently paid off his student loans.

  65. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    “is that what chicago call years of failed liberal policies and domination……”Reaganomics?””

    What failed liberal policies are those? It was Reaganomics that lead to the largest tax increase in history that raised the taxes of the working and middle class. It’s Reaganomics that reduced tariffs enticing companies to move manufacturing jobs to Mexico (hence the huge layoffs in Chicago). What would those liberal policies be?

  66. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Here’s how to get by in Palin’s America. Be loyal to your leader and get promoted, don’t be completely loyal and she’ll get your ass fired.

    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Palin_promotes_general_after_he_changes_0909.html

    The general goes onto Fox News and praises her and comes home to a promotion. A librarian who was hostile to Palin’s suggestion of book banning and she was fired for not being loyal.

    Kinda reminds you of Stalin doesn’t it? Like Stalin, Palin believes the Jews deserve the persecution they got for being Jews.

  67. Regular
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    No, it was the butt-ugly Chrysler K cars that killed the 80s. :D

  68. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    -Reaganomics that lead to the largest tax increase in history.
    ——————————
    Sorry pal, the self proclaimed “First Black President” owns THAT one……
    ——————————-
    ..that reduced tariffs enticing companies to move manufacturing jobs to Mexico.
    ——————————-
    OOps, bubba owns THAT ONE TOO!!

    rewrite history much?

  69. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Sorry Biased, you are wrong yet again. Reagan’s tax increase was $37 billion a year, Clinton’s was $32 billion a year.

    http://www.factcheck.org/treasury_tax_expert_to_bush_clintons_increase.html

    Clinton was governor of Arkansas when Reagan was President so Clinton couldn’t have caused any massive layoffs in Illinois. You’re about as good at history as Palin is.

  70. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    “No, it was the butt-ugly Chrysler K cars that killed the 80s.”

    Damn, all the cars back then were nasty. Too bad GM took the Chevy Volt from a cool looking car to an ordinary looking one. The new Honda Insight look pretty good. Maybe I can trade my piece of tin in.

  71. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Politics makes strange bedfellows; it’s just amazing however how many of them make your skin crawl.

  72. Posted September 10, 2008 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    beber — please refrain from the racial stuff?? it makes the Lib side look bad when you do that regression… and i know it isnt genetic… please??

  73. samkan
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Doug…

    If you have an extra $100 grand or so laying around, you could always go for the all electric Tesla Roadster. But if you do, I want a ride!!!!

    http://www.teslamotors.com/

  74. Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    I would love a Tesla. They plan on making a more affordable model for the masses. I think it will still cost around $30,000 or so. Canada makes a bunch of electric cars but they are sold as soon as they come off the assembly line.

    Would that be great to have in America? More cars that sell as soon as they are made? Kinda like the EV1 before GM killed it.

  75. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    I just had an epipiphany!
    The real reason Sarah cut her salary when she became Gov. was because she didn’t believe a woman should be paid as much as a man!
    That wouldn’t reconcile with her beliefs in a woman being subservien to a man.

  76. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    subservient

  77. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    That was a brilliant insight, should send in to OL. (They need some brilliant insights!)

  78. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    The real reason Sarah cut her salary when she became Gov. was because she didn’t believe a woman should be paid as much as a man!

    The racism and sexism from the left is appalling!

  79. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Even Democratic Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (NY) called the Clinton increase “the largest tax increase in the history of public finance in the United States or anywhere else in the world.”

  80. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    What do you think this election is about; why do you suppose every single country has ethnic and racial tensions if not now, in the past? This election is about race. It’s never been about conservatives or liberals. The last two weren’t either. It’s about whether the majority will rule, or the white people will rule. Can’t you even believe your own damned eyes when you see the white bread convention vs. the rainbow one? That’s why you can’t touch Palin and it’s stupid to even try. She’s WHITE. And as I recall, Charles, there is a thread about racial influences in the upcoming presidential election on this board. I’m only posting here, because here is where I have been attacked. O.K.

    Get this straight. Ms. Palin is not a whore. Ms. Palin gets to make her own choices about where and what kind of a baby to have. To natter over Ms. Palin’s choice of birthing hospitals exhibits the worst Flauberesque attributes of women. Whatever her faults, she is a woman of intelligence who knows how to seize an opportunity. I happen to think that her preconceptions would make her a disastrous president. Chances are she will at least be acting commander-in-chief at least for some period. We don’t need another slogan spouting evangelist anywhere near the nuclear button

  81. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    And do you fools think that not using a word can erase the black spot from your heart.

  82. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Latest fad is the Palin action figure! Funny you don’t hear the repubs. ridiculing Obam for being a celebrity or rock star anymore. Guess they’re too busy trying to buy their action figures. Also, her stylish eyeglass wear is flying off the shelves.
    How long before you can get these things with a happy meal?

  83. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    If she’s a biblical literalist, and her preacher says she is, she knows her place.

  84. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Bet her first official act in washington will be to request a pay cut.

  85. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    “Sexist, racist, and generally just hate filled.

    Gotta love that tolerant left.” the wefu

    The convention floors are my only retort.

  86. SolDevVB
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    The convention floors are my only retort. – the racist.

  87. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    All white convention — tolerant.

  88. Predestined
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    When is the Obama campaign gonna realize that all these orchestrated attacks by his surrogates, the daily dose of Kos-slop (and we see their syncophants this blog daily) dumped on Palin, are not playing well in “flyover country?”

    If the McCain campaign had been upfront, people wouldn’t have felt the need to ask questions. If McCain had picked a candidate who had been fully vetted, they wouldn’t have to be running backwards to catch up and rumors wouldn’t have been necessary.

    And all you have is “executive experience!” which frankly sucks.

  89. Predestined
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    How do you react when you see three black youths approaching you on the street vs. three white teens? You know goddamned well it’s there, and the cure is certainly not in banning a word.

    In the neighborhood where I live, seeing three black youths approaching me isn’t unusual. I don’t react any differently than I do if it’s three white youths. Again, in my neighborhood…

    It’s a good thing you don’t live next door to me, beber. You’d be cowering behind the curtains 24/7.

    When you stopping seeing the color of someone’s skin, you begin to lose your blindness.

  90. Predestined
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Answered many times. Non-acceptance of answers doesn’t mean they are wrong responses.

    Regular, I must have missed your answer(s). If so, my bad. Would you mind repeating?

    In fact, it would be VERY nice to have a “clean” thread to give everyone the opportunity to give their reasons for choosing their candidate. None of those reasons should include the negatives of the other guy/gal.

    Is anyone game for doing that?

  91. beber
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Horseshit, predestined.

  92. cosmos_originally
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    GMC70 posted September 10, 2008 at 8:51 am

    “Cripes.

    There isn’t ONE of us – not one – who hasn’t stumbled over a word, misspoke, or expressed themselves poorly. It’s called being human.”
    ———

    So GMC70, when Sarah Palin incorrectly claimed that only a “little 2,000 acre plot of land” would be opened to drilling in the Arctic Refuge, she just “misspoke”?

    And Palin “misspoke” in another interview, calling it a 2,000-acre “swath”?

    Is she going to correct her errors, and say that almost the entire 1.5 MILLION acres would be opened to drilling?

  93. GMC70
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Ah. So it’s McCain’s fault, Pre-D, that Kos-slop trots out the most vile rumors. And it’s McCain’s fault that the Kos syncophants spout them here.

    Riiiiiiiiight.

    Keep trotting that one out . . .

  94. Phantom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Boeing will get a fair shot at the tanker, unless mccain’s elected. He’d certainly like to right-shore the tanker.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080910/bs_nm/usa_tanker_dc_7

  95. alice75
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    about the comments in the article : 1st – Obama was right. Maybe he should have sugar-coated the truth, but hes right. 2nd – aren’t all those houses his wifes? i mean, his name might or might not be on the title, but didnt she buy them all? one would think a hubby would know how many homes his wife has, but not if he doesnt track what she buys with her money.however, i WOULD hope that a pres. candidate does know quite a bit about economics. preferrably more than they know about whats going on in our bedrooms, but thats all the righties seem to care about as the economy crumbles.

  96. mom
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 9:26 am | Permalink
    Monkeyboy- Joe Biden’s wimpy first wife, Neilia, went and died in a piddly little Christmas shopping car wreck.”
    ——————
    Wasn’t a kennedy driving by chance…….

    ___

    biased1 is a good name for you – this comment was really tacky, tastless and crude. It is people like you that makes the Republicans look just as stupid as when Democrats use similiar tactics.

  97. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    this comment …..which one?

  98. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Republicans for BRIDGE TO NOWHERE! PALINFOR BRIDGE TO NO WHERE!! Wait, here comes some truth

    “Now that Alaska is front and center in the news again, it is a good time to catch up on a favorite story, The Bridge to Nowhere, using the Washington Post US Congress Votes Database.

    Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs.

    However, Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama voted for funding the Bridge, even when given a second chance by Sen. Tom Coburn, who proposed shifting earmark funds to Katrina relief.

    Sen. McCain did not vote on the Coburn Amendment, though he is on record as opposing the Ketchikan bridge earmark.”

  99. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    From Rasmussen

    “While 82% of voters who support McCain believe the justices should rule on what is in the Constitution, just 29% of Barack Obama’s supporters agree. Just 11% of McCain supporters say judges should rule based on the judge’s sense of fairness, while nearly half (49%) of Obama supporters agree. ”

    Wow. McCain supporters believe the supremes should follow the law and the Constitution, Obama folowers believe they should just make shit up based on the sense of fairness.

  100. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    What does Obama believe about the SUpreme Court justices and the Constitution?

  101. outlander
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Pretty scary LJ.

  102. Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    LJ — LINK PLEASE???

  103. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, forgot the link. Here it is

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/supreme_court_ratings/supreme_court_update

  104. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Well, here are a few clues. NOte: Not one thing about the Constitution. Perhaps he believes like the majority of his followers?

    Obama on juducial appointments

    “We need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that’s the criteria by which I’m going to be selecting my judges.”

    ” taught constitutional law for 10 years, and . . . when you look at what makes a great Supreme Court justice, it’s not just the particular issue and how they rule, but it’s their conception of the Court. And part of the role of the Court is that it is going to protect people who may be vulnerable in the political process, the outsider, the minority, those who are vulnerable, those who don’t have a lot of clout.
    . . . [S]ometimes we’re only looking at academics or people who’ve been in the [lower] court. If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that’s the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court. “

  105. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Obama on juducial appointments

    “We need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that’s the criteria by which I’m going to be selecting my judges.”

    A Short biography of Janice Rogers Brown; (source Wikipedia)

    “Judge Brown is an Alabama sharecropper’s daughter who attended segregated majority African American schools as a child. She earned her B.A. from California State University, Sacramento in 1974 and her Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree from the UCLA School of Law in 1977. She worked her own way through law school while being a single mother. In addition, she received an LL.M. degree from the University of Virginia School of Law in 2004.”

    I guess he meant one that knows what it’s like to be poor, or AfricanAmerican, or gay….” and one that agrees with him.

    Not unusual, I suppose.

  106. lindainks55
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Is there any correlation to the first and second parts of your post, LJ?

  107. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    By the way, I agree with Obama

    ““Judicial decisions ultimately have to be based on evidence and on fact. They have to be based on precedent and on law. When you bend and twist all of these to cramp them into a conclusion you have already made — a conclusion that is based on your own personal ideology — you do a disservice to the ideal of an independent judiciary and to the American people who count on an independent judiciary”

  108. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Linda,

    Which posts? I will try and clarify. I may have left out a thought, or left it in my head, not making it here.

  109. lindainks55
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    The post at 3:00 p.m.

  110. biased1
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    “We need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that’s the criteria by which I’m going to be selecting my judges.”
    ———————————–
    I want a judge that absolutely doesn’t give a crap about ANY of that.
    Give me one that is blind…..
    Just like lady justice.

  111. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Linda-

    What I was pointing out was while Obama has stated he wanted judges that …….., and Janice Brown seemed to fit that criteria, he voted against her because he disagreed with her. THat is all. My guess, he could care less about what they have experienced, only that they agree with his world view. He stated in his opposition to the confirmation of Janice Brown the next statment I listed

    ““Judicial decisions ultimately have to be based on evidence and on fact. They have to be based on precedent and on law. When you bend and twist all of these to cramp them into a conclusion you have already made — a conclusion that is based on your own personal ideology — you do a disservice to the ideal of an independent judiciary and to the American people who count on an independent judiciary”

    Conclusion. It’s all bs. He just wants to appoint someone who agrees with him. NOt an uncommon position among politician. Next conclusion for me: Obama is just another politician. He has lost my support. McCain does not get my support, and never will. I am not represented by the candidates of either party during this election cycle.

  112. lindainks55
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Ah, if I had been as well informed as you I would have known Janice Brown was nominated, that Obama had voted against her… then I would have seen the correlation. You gave your reader(s) too much credit.

    Obama is definitely change this election. McCain isn’t. We need change. McCain is exactly what we’ve had for eight years only possibly more dangerous. He does seem more of a loose cannon. I’ll gladly admit I was wrong if that proves true, but I’ve seen what a Republican majority at all three branches brought us, I’ll give a Democratic majority a chance gladly. One of the two is going to be POTUS, I’ve chosen who gives me more hope for our future. Although I agree that politician has become a word not representing much that is positive.

    And, on those judicial appointments — I gotta go with Obama and his political positions, can’t go with McCain.

  113. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Linda–

    Gotcha. I can support neither. McCain is a doddering old fool, and in my mind, a traitor to many. Obama is a lying opportunist. I had supported Obama, have supported him from the beginning, because I beleived he was sincere. Now, I know him for the politician he is. Can;t support him any longer. I support Obamas statement about judges

    “Judicial decisions ultimately have to be based on evidence and on fact. They have to be based on precedent and on law. When you bend and twist all of these to cramp them into a conclusion you have already made — a conclusion that is based on your own personal ideology — you do a disservice to the ideal of an independent judiciary and to the American people who count on an independent judiciary”

    The restWe need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that’s the criteria by which I’m going to be selecting my judges.”

    is irrevelant in my opinion.

  114. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Actually Linda, I didn;t give my readers too much credit. I had a oldtimers moment and forgot to include relevant data. The bad thing about getting older is ……I forget what……

  115. Posted September 10, 2008 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Rasmussen >>>>

    “In terms of how the Supreme Court currently makes decisions, just 42% of voters think the justices rule from what is in the Constitution. Thirty-percent (30%) say they are guided by a sense of fairness and justice. Democrats are more likely than Republicans and unaffiliated voters to believe the justices base rulings on the Constitution.”

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america

  116. littlejohn
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Chas-

    That doesn;t refute what I said,

    “While 82% of voters who support McCain believe the justices should rule on what is in the Constitution, just 29% of Barack Obama’s supporters agree. Just 11% of McCain supporters say judges should rule based on the judge’s sense of fairness, while nearly half (49%) of Obama supporters agree. ”

    Your statement is what they think about how it operates now, not how they would prefer.

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