The world according to college freshmen

Beloit College’s Mindset List for the class of 2012 has some mind-blowing revelations for those of a certain age. Among its 60 points about the life experience of this fall’s college freshmen: “Gas stations have never fixed flats, but most serve cappuccino.” “Films have never been X-rated, only NC-17.” “Clarence Thomas has always sat on the Supreme Court.” “IBM has never made typewriters.” “Radio stations have never been required to present both sides of public issues.” “‘The Tonight Show’ has always been hosted by Jay Leno.” And (my favorite) “Wayne Newton (in photo) has never had a mustache.” The college in Beloit, Wis., has released these lists for professors for the past 11 years, “a reminder of the rapidly changing frame of reference for this new generation.”

36 Comments

  1. JMWalker
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    “McCain is an old, wrinkled white guy.”

  2. Posted August 25, 2008 at 6:37 am | Permalink

    JMWalker, shame on you. We all know McCain is an old, wrinkled, senile rich white guy who just happens to be a bigamist.

  3. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    Bigamist? You are stretching the truth yet again. Maybe he did take out papers for a marriage license prior to finalization of his divorce, but that does not equate with being married to two women at the same time. Divorce is a process, with the final decree simply being the last part of it. You cannot possibly know how long it had been since their marriage had died.

    It must be nice being so perfect that you can be judgmental of everyone else in the world. I am also divorced and remarried. Care to speculate/judge on what happened to my marriage?

  4. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    Back to the posted topic….college freshmen wouldn’t understand the phrase “sounds like a broken record”, have no clue what a ‘black and white television’ is, or comprehend a dial telephone.

    They grew up in a world with cell phones, GPS, digital everything and surround sound. Some of us here can remember getting our first television, talking on “party” telephone lines, and getting “dressed up” to go on an airplane.

    The vast advances in technology reminds me of my late grandmother’s perspective. She remembered hearing of the Wright brothers’ first flight, and lived to see men walk on the moon.

  5. Monkeyhawk
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    Serial polygamist “Raptor” struts –

    “…I am also divorced and remarried. Care to speculate/judge on what happened to my marriage?”

    Your previous wife came to her senses?

  6. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    Ahhh…the wit and wisdom of the hate filled mh strikes again.

    1) mh lies and claims McCain is a bigamist
    2) when challenged on that lie, he turns it to a personal attack.

    Care to back up your LIE about him being a bigamist? Or is the TRUTH too much of a stumbling block to your invented little fantasies?

  7. Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    ““Radio stations have never been required to present both sides of public issues.”

    Not lately anyway. That will be changing.

  8. Regular
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    The “Fairness Doctrine” was proven unconstitutional as a violation of the First Amendment.

    The Fairness Doctrine required that contrasting viewpoints be presented, not necessarily equal time. I remember seeing on TV and hearing on radio those opposition ads and purchased segments, they were great time wasters of on air time. It was more about whining than anything else.

  9. Franklin
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    The proper phrase is:
    “Radio stations were never prohibited from airing controversial issues”

    The “fairness doctrine” is a direct attack on the First Amendment.

    If you forced country westerm music to be “balanced” with hard rock, all you would do is force music off the radio.

    The same is true of political views.

    The “fairness doctrine” was always unconstitutional. Now, with sattelight radio, cable TV and the internet, it is just stupid.

  10. lindainks55
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    McCain thinks he can be elected when he admits he hasn’t ever used a computer? Ya think these voters know how out of step he is? ;-)

  11. Franklin
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    linda
    How many of your fellow Bloggers would you vote for?

    Weak argument.

  12. Franklin
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    satelite — need more coffee

  13. lindainks55
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Who is running and for what office. I can’t answer your question without more specifics. I would, however, see the ability to use a computer as a positive.

  14. Monkeyhawk
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    “Raptor” lies –

    ” mh lies and claims McCain is a bigamist”

    Nope.

    That was “maggotpunk.”"

    It must be difficult to keep your hatreds straight. You have so many of them.

    Perhaps you should try to keep your facts straight. You have hardly any of those.

  15. beber
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Raptor, I dub the hereby and forever “Craptor.”

    And Franklin, it’s “satellite.”

  16. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    My mistake on the initials. Sorry about that, it was a mistake, not intentional.

  17. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Sorry..it was maggotpunk who, not MH. And MP hasn’t bothered to support his lie. He just throws out any old crap without any substantiation at all.

    typical.

  18. Posted August 25, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    re: not knowing how to use a computer. I wonder how many of these freshment know how to use a pencil?!

  19. lindainks55
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    I think the computer IS their pencil. And they use it as easily and effectively as we used our pencils. It is as much a tool to get their work done as our pencils were our tools.

  20. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Sure wish I had owned a laptop in college. I wore out a manual typewriter in 3 years. Used erasable paper for class papers…had to measure and make a very light pencil mark on the paper to tell me where to start/stop typing. Spell check? It was called Webster’s.

  21. Posted August 25, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Heh Ben!

    “re: not knowing how to use a computer. I wonder how many of these freshment know how to use a pencil?!”

    I bet ZERO percent know how to use a slide rule. I wonder how many even know what a slide rule is?

    Not that it matters of course. I envision the day when the Antique Road show has someone bring in a slide rule and say “I wonder what this was ever used for?”

  22. Freebird1971
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    KFG,
    My dad used a slide rule even after computers.His is still in his desk drawer right where he left after futiley trying to explain how it works to my son. Think I’ll hang on to it and wait for Antique Roadshow to come around

  23. DeepAsAPlate
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Crap. I figured “slide rule” was a baseball term.

    [Kidding.]

  24. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Still have my slide rule somewhere…used it for physics…

    Hey, Freebird…how’s it goin?

  25. Posted August 25, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Raptor – bamboo?

  26. Freebird1971
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Great. Working with my sponsor,going to at least a meeting a day. Life is looking better every day. Going this afternoon and babysit the grandson which in itself is a daymaker. He’s 18 months and a ball of energy

  27. Posted August 25, 2008 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    “Going this afternoon and babysit the grandson which in itself is a daymaker”

    Makes it all worthwhile!

    ;)

  28. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Aluminum, I believe, bth. Yellow….made by Pickett.

    Good to hear, Freebird!

  29. Posted August 25, 2008 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Aluminum – second rate!

    :)

  30. gster
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    I got into trouble using my Dad’s slide rule in the 7th grade. I liked the speed in doing long multiplication/division problems; my teacher didn’t appreciate the accuracy; she won.

  31. Raptor
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Yeah…it was cheap. I never planned on spending much time needing it. Physics wasn’t my strong point.

  32. beber
    Posted August 25, 2008 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    “Physics wasn’t my strong point” — Craptor.

    Ah, who could have guessed?

  33. Posted August 25, 2008 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    Raptor says:
    “Bigamist? You are stretching the truth yet again. Maybe he did take out papers for a marriage license prior to finalization of his divorce, but that does not equate with being married to two women at the same time. Divorce is a process, with the final decree simply being the last part of it. You cannot possibly know how long it had been since their marriage had died.”

    Sorry I didn’t respond to this earlier. According to Arizona law one must not be married when applying for a marriage license or else the person has committed to crime of bigamy. McCain, while still married, filed the marriage application and put on the application that he wasn’t married. He lied on a government document and committed the crime of bigamy in Arizona.

    Bigamy, a felony in Arizona, has been prosecuted by the Attorney General as recently as this year. However, in Republican eyes cheating on your wife, committing adultery and bigamy isn’t a crime, unless a Democrat does it.

  34. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 26, 2008 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    That picture of Wayne Newton should be used as a deterent to people who are thinking about getting plastic surgery. He looks horrible..and so does Kenny Rodgers and Pricilla Presley. What the hell were they thinking?

  35. Rage
    Posted August 27, 2008 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    I checked this old thread out of curiousity, and was surprised to see how many people really believed college freshman gave these answers. PT Barnum was right. ;-)

    Sometimes it helps to read The (Fabulous) Article.

    It is the creation of Beloit’s Keefer Professor of the Humanities Tom McBride and Public Affairs Director Ron Nief.

    And the continuing over-the-top tone of the article makes this clear. It’s self-evident that no students were actually interviewed. It’s satire, folks.

    They’re just observing that “For these students, Sammy Davis Jr., Jim Henson, Ryan White, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Freddy Krueger have always been dead.”

    “Freddy Krueger”?? :)

  36. Rage
    Posted August 27, 2008 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Just messing with you folks!