Open thread 8/7

348 Comments

  1. Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    Perfect Storm: Is Global Warming Racist?

    It may be the progressive equivalent of the Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup — where two great tastes like peanut butter and chocolate collide into one amazing feast for the senses. I’m referring to a paper published recently claiming global warming is racist.

    Call it the nexus of outrage — the perfect plank to exert one’s own heightened sensitivity until the rest of us puke through our nostrils.

    Still, it’s true. Global warming does raise temperatures and who does that hurt most? Minority groups who probably own smaller, less expensive air conditioners. While rich white fat cats drive around in air-cooled, gold-plated limos immune to the searing outside heat caused in part by sorrow of the homeless, the rest of us must settle with a small breeze created by a pair of swinging oversized fuzzy dice hanging from a rearview.

    So, blacks make up 13 percent of the U.S. population, yet emit 20 percent less greenhouse gases than us crackers. Also, they’re much more vulnerable to climate change consequences like storms, floods and films featuring Al Gore. They also fall victim to higher energy bills and recessions, none of which have anything to do with global warming, but so what.

    Look, even if the panic merchants are right about global warming (and they aren’t), humans are still only a tiny bit to blame for global warming. The real culprit is the sun, whose own climate determines everything that happens here.
    Related

    Yes, it’s true. The sun is racist. I’d like to see Al Sharpton boycott that.

    And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.

    Greg Gutfeld hosts “Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld” weekdays at 3 a.m. ET. Send your comments to: redeye@foxnews.com

  2. Rage
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 6:13 am | Permalink

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  3. Posted August 7, 2008 at 6:52 am | Permalink

    I cannot believe that there is no blog topic on John Edwards and his fall from grace. It is a great example of how at the national level political campaigns are more about marketing and perception than about truth. Look at the campaigns now. One major candidate is little more than great speeches. The other does not seem to do anything but try to put his foot in his mouth.

    And let’s not forget the great journalist watchdogs. How can a major player running for POTUS manage to have a love child without the media finding out about it?

  4. Political_mama
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    Yippy skippy it’s Values Boys day! And look! He has written on how teens should be adults…perhaps the Catholics are jealous on how the FLDS keeps their youngsters in check.

  5. Political_mama
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    PM, perhaps the same reason we haven’t had a blog on one guy who is the nominee called his wife a c*nt and a trollup and hasn’t been forced to answer whether or not he did and skirts the issue everytime someone manages to slip it in there.

    Edwards has a sick wife, until that is better, we should leave them alone. He’s not a big player right now anyway.

    And when you get yours who are actually doing ILLEGAL stuff out of office, I guess your side shouldn’t complain.

  6. beber
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    I can’t believe there isn’t a blog topic on President Bush drinking again, and Laura moving out of the White House, either.

  7. Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    I can’t believe there isn’t a blog topic on whether or not John McCain’s wife won the pickle licking contest or the topless contest at the biker rally. John offered his wife up as a contestant which isn’t surprising since he thinks she’s just a trollop and cunt.

  8. Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Ever notice how Libs love and take great pleasure to repeat distasteful words ad nauseum?
    re: 7:12a.m.

    The way I was raised, one might acknowledge that something bad was said, but to keep repeating the word or words, is indicative of the personality of the person repeating said words.

  9. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    Reg–

    Like beber demonstrated the other day with his vulgar juvenile outburst. Is it a common practice around here–go for the shock of using vulgar language?

  10. Heckler
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    Hot Science

    Still very quiet.

    http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/512/

  11. beber
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    How many times have these shitballs floated the National Inquirer story about Edward’s love child on this blog? Ever notice that?

  12. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    Regular says: The way I was raised, one might acknowledge that something bad was said, but to keep repeating the word or words, is indicative of the personality of the person repeating said words.
    ————

    Like when Pastor Wright’s words were acknowledged as something bad having been said. And of course never repeated and certainly not taken out of context.

    Uh huh.

    We did understand whose personality was on display when those words went on “ad nauseum.” But others tried day after day to make them something more.

    ALL words that come directly from the mouth of a public person are representative of THAT person and repeating them doesn’t change that. Just ensures more hear them so more can KNOW who that public person is.

  13. Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    Well said Regular. I would like to quit seeing vulgar language on these blogs. And I think the C word is one of the most offensive words and to be used by a woman.

    In addition, I thought your statements on how the global warming issue is racist was very well said. You have a way with your humor, you get the point across and in a very wittingly manner.

    I have noticed how the media, which is mainly composed of whites who for some reason have this guilt about being white and having money are always trying to pull the race card. I sometimes feel that our candidates are being accused of that very same thing, but when you get down to it, I believe it is more the MSM that is behind it.

    And if they really believed in global warming, why aren’t they changing their views that it is America who is mostly responsible when they have clearly shown us the smog in Bejing where our Olympics are to be held. For some reason, China is allowed to get away with that. If it were an American city, they would be all over it.

    China has the right idea. You just don’t quit driving your vehicles when your economy is growing. I would add that it also true that when you have trucks, planes and trains transporting goods, you are growing when you put your truck drivers in the situation that America has, then you cut down that transportation of goods which slows the economy. Global Warming is just a convenient lie to destroy the economy in America.

  14. Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:49 am | Permalink

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    lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    Regular says: The way I was raised, one might acknowledge that something bad was said, but to keep repeating the word or words, is indicative of the personality of the person repeating said words.
    ————

    Like when Pastor Wright’s words were acknowledged as something bad having been said. And of course never repeated and certainly not taken out of context.

    Uh huh.

    We did understand whose personality was on display when those words went on “ad nauseum.” But others tried day after day to make them something more.

    ALL words that come directly from the mouth of a public person are representative of THAT person and repeating them doesn’t change that. Just ensures more hear them so more can KNOW who that public person is.
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    Yes, but I didn’t repeat the offensive words, perhaps others did, I didn’t.

    I pointed out who Obama was associated with, that is, until Obama no longer wanted to be associated with him.

    Even you, lindainks, repeat the despicable word that McCain had supposed use of, by using an asterisk, even though everyone knew what the word was. PMom was the worst of the females to keep re-posting of the word.

    For what purpose?

    It’s almost as if you and the other Libs took great pleasure in using the word.

    Show me that I’m wrong, so I may restore my faith in human kind.

    :)

  15. Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Isn’t it amazing that middle class people who rent their homes and live in a neighborhood with a median income of $58,000, and drive old cars, will shell out over $60,000 for McCain’s campaign?

    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/hess_corporation_office_manage.php

    You’d think with that sort of money they’d buy their own home. But I guess with people who have never donated to a campaign before they just got a bit excited and went overboard.

  16. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    We’re all positive whatever “side” we represent is handling themselves with better decorum than the opponents. If we’re truthful we acknowledge none of us are innocent and there isn’t a “side” who can lay claim to remaining above the fray! There isn’t a better justification for poor behavior either.

  17. Boxlock
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    Regular Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:16 am
    “Ever notice how Libs love and take great pleasure to repeat distasteful words ad nauseum?
    re: 7:12a.m.”

    Of course you are right Regular, but what do you expect from a genuine Maggot?

  18. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    For me, the purpose is to show the lack of character of McCain. If it isn’t true he could at minimum say so. I wouldn’t believe him, but he would be on record as denying it. Seems until he is it indicates to me he has some fear that he will be proven a liar and thus chooses to remain silent.

  19. Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:54 am | Permalink

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    Maggotpunk
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Isn’t it amazing that middle class people who rent their homes and live in a neighborhood with a median income of $58,000, and drive old cars, will shell out over $60,000 for McCain’s campaign?

    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/hess_corporation_office_manage.php

    You’d think with that sort of money they’d buy their own home. But I guess with people who have never donated to a campaign before they just got a bit excited and went overboard.
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    What was conveniently left out by Maggot.

    Late Update: It should also be noted that FEC reports have no record of any Federal political contributions for the Rocchios before 2008. They both gave the maximum of $2,300 to McCain’s campaign this year.

  20. Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    “What was conveniently left out by Maggot.”

    Oh, was I supposed to copy and paste all the articles? The link was provided. What you left out was that they did donate more, a lot of the donation went to the RNC which has a higher cap. McCain, which you have left out, has already mentioned he is coordinating his campaign with the RNC. So any donation to the RNC serves as a donation to the McCain campaign.

    Try to be a bit more honest before you accuse someone else of being dishonest. However, it belies the fact that a middle class couple have donated beyond their financial means.

  21. ididit
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    Edwards has a sick wife, until that is better, we should leave them alone. He’s not a big player right now anyway.

    —————

    Would that matter if he had an “R” behind his name vs a “D”?

  22. Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:01 am | Permalink

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    Maggotpunk
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    “What was conveniently left out by Maggot.”

    Oh, was I supposed to copy and paste all the articles? The link was provided. What you left out was that they did donate more, a lot of the donation went to the RNC which has a higher cap. McCain, which you have left out, has already mentioned he is coordinating his campaign with the RNC. So any donation to the RNC serves as a donation to the McCain campaign.

    Try to be a bit more honest before you accuse someone else of being dishonest. However, it belies the fact that a middle class couple have donated beyond their financial means.
    ——————————-
    I’m not the one who omitted a very important statement of the article. :)

  23. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Maggot…and because a middle class couple has ‘donated beyond their financial means’ is this an indictment of McCain somehow? Did he hold a gun to their heads forcing them to sign the checks? Is it possible there is more to the story than is printed?

    How, exactly, is this McCain’s fault? I am not sure I understand your outrage here…

  24. Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    “I’m not the one who omitted a very important statement of the article.”

    I provided a link to the article dumbass, I did not quote the entire article. Would you like me to take the time to cut and paste all three articles so I could make you happy by not having left anything out which you could have read by going to the link? As usual nutjob spin by the conservatives is pathetic.

  25. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    “Would that matter if he had an “R” behind his name vs a “D”?”
    —–

    Yes. Doubt has been cast. On another thread there is a man with Coach accompanying his name and doubt has been cast on him personally. His future behavior may dispel that doubt.

    For the time being, where there is smoke there is often flame.

  26. Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    “Maggot…and because a middle class couple has ‘donated beyond their financial means’ is this an indictment of McCain somehow? Did he hold a gun to their heads forcing them to sign the checks? Is it possible there is more to the story than is printed?

    How, exactly, is this McCain’s fault? I am not sure I understand your outrage here…”

    It has to do with McCain’s close ties to the oil industry. They are going all out for McCain that they have no problem providing illegal campaign donations which McCain and the Republicans happily accept.

  27. Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    McCain Readies Unorthodox Campaign
    Politico: Presumptive GOP Nominee Plans Decentralized Campaign Structure

    For reasons of financial necessity, personal preference and plain politics, John McCain is gearing up to run one of the least traditional presidential campaigns in recent history.

    The problem is that even prominent strategists within McCain’s own party wonder if his unorthodox strategy will work.

    Facing the prospect of competing against a Democrat who is on track to shatter every fundraising record - and confronted by his own inability to rake in large bundles of cash - McCain and his key advisers have largely been forced into devising a three-pronged strategy that they hope can turn their general election weaknesses into strengths.

    McCain will lean heavily on the well-funded Republican National Committee. He will merge key functions of his campaign hierarchy with the RNC while also relying on an unconventional structure of 10 regional campaign mangers.

    And finally - and perhaps most importantly - McCain will rely on free media to an unprecedented degree to get out his message in a fashion that aims to not only minimize his financial disadvantage but also to drive a triangulated contrast between himself, the Democratic nominee and President Bush.

    McCain advisers acknowledge they have little choice but to seek free entry into the media marketplace, as they have no chance of matching Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton in a dollar-for-dollar ad war, given that the Arizona senator’s fundraising totals pale in comparison to both his prospective opponents and the Bush-Cheney political machine.

    But aides also hope they can turn necessity into virtue and argue that by facing tough questions from reporters on his bus each day and potentially even tougher ones from audience members at frequent town hall meetings, McCain will demonstrate how he’s different from two politicians who are far less accessible.

    “People in the country are in a very bad mood and they want to have change,” says Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser to McCain. “And the first place they evaluate change is through the prism of what kind of campaigns candidates are running. Voters will have an indication of the different kind of presidency he would preside over by looking at his campaign.”

    Mark Salter, another top aide to McCain, says Obama is running “one buttoned-up, conventional campaign.”

    “Is new politics just stadium-sized crowds and lots of money?” he asks.

    But the tactics aren’t solely meant to portray the Democratic candidates as distant and McCain as grounded.

    McCain aides also want to paint their guy as different from an unpopular administration that prefers secrecy to transparency and friendly crowds to unpredictable ones.

    “Sen. McCain believes every American should participate in the arena, and that includes people that don’t agree with him,” Schmidt says, taking care to note that such unscripted exchanges have waned “in the last decade.”

    Additionally, McCain and his advisers want to pursue voters that look different than the bare majority coalition that Bush put together twice.

    “We’re running a campaign that is not designed to get 50-plus-one-percent of the vote,” says Schmidt.

    Even if they can’t win in places like California or inner cities - both of which McCain will stop in during his different-sort-of-Republican tour starting this week - they want to send a signal that he intends to at least compete for most every vote.

    “You want to make sure that you tailor the campaign to the candidate and not other way around,” said Charlie Black, a top adviser. “And McCain sincerely believes in campaigning everywhere.”

    But McCain’s campaign plan is as much about pragmatism as it is perception, despite efforts by his campaign team to create the notion that they are taking this route of their own free will.

    First, his advisers can read polls and recognize the daunting right track/wrong track polling headwind that is gusting in their face.

    Differences between Bush and McCain will be “discussed at great length,” promises one aide.

    “He’ll be direct about it. He’s never gratuitous, never disrespectful, but there are going to be policy breaks where it couldn’t be clearer.” Two areas of difference McCain will highlight: global warming and spending.

    And, quite practically, McCain doesn’t have much choice but to run a campaign that differs from the Bush model, given his lagging fundraising performance.

    “It is true we’ll be outspent,” concedes Black. “But between the RNC and McCain we’ll raise enough money.”

    Indeed, to help counter their money deficit, McCain strategists now suggest that the proper comparison should be between the combined assets of the campaign and the RNC and that of their opponent and the far less flush DNC.

    “The McCain camp is funded jointly,” is how one adviser describes it.

    By taking federal funds - something they intend to do, campaign manager Rick Davis told a closed-door meeting of chiefs of staff on Capitol Hill last week - McCain will receive $84 million.

    That money, McCain aides say, will be bolstered by the $20 million in coordinated funds that they can legally direct the RNC to spend on anything they want.

    Further, they’ll rely on the committee-campaign joint Victory Fund run out of the RNC, which allows contributions of up to $28,500 per person - far more than the $2,300 donors can give to individual candidates.

    The Victory dollars will go into the states and be used to hire staffers, who in some cases will serve as the de facto McCain aides.

    Other elements of the campaign, such as those tasked with developing coalitions and lining up surrogates, will also be placed at the RNC to save on overhead.

    “Those functions that can legally be done at either [the campaign or RNC], we’ll err on the side of doing them at the RNC,” Black says. “The whole thing is under one umbrella in the way we are budgeting.”

    So instead of hiring a traditional political director and field director at the headquarters, for example, they’ve so far effectively merged the functions between Davis’s deputy at the campaign, Christian Ferry, RNC adviser and former Rudy Giuliani chief Mike DuHaime, and the regional managers themselves.

    The 10 regional managers, the last of which are being hired this week, will have both autonomy over and responsibility for the key elements of the campaign in their area: the political and field operation, relations with state and local media, and fundraising.

    Some will have just a couple of states while others will have as many as six; the average will be about five. To spread the wealth, there will be at least one targeted and genuinely competitive state in each region.

    They’ll have a daily phone call with McCain’s Arlington, Va., headquarters and answer directly to Davis. If Davis is absent, Ferry will ride herd. DuHaime will offer guidance from his role at the RNC.

    The hope is to give these aides complete hiring and budget authority for their regions to make for a more responsive and agile campaign. As Davis told Hill aides last week, the goal is to have 80 percent of the structure in the field and 20 percent back at headquarters.

    “You can get better service, better coordination and most importantly get decisions made much more quickly if it’s done in the states,” argues Frank Donatelli, deputy chairman of the RNC and the chief liaison between the committee and McCain campaign.

    “We have some confidence in it because it’s kind of the way we got nominated,” adds Black. “Our people were out in the states. By definition, people in New Hampshire and South Crolina had a lot of authority.”

    There has, however, been much private grumbling in the ranks of Republican operatives that such a decentralized plan, the campaign equivalent of federalism, will inevitably prove unrealistic and have to be scaled back.

    First, says one prominent GOP strategist who worked in the Bush reelect, Davis won’t be able to directly oversee regional aides with all the other responsibilities that come with running a campaign. And further, says this source, delegating so much decision-making authority to different individuals will lead to mixed results. “There are some things campaigns are going to do everywhere because they work and are fundamental to the campaign,” says the strategist.

    “In every campaign some people perform up to expectations and some people don’t,” Black said by way of tamping down such criticism. “If some [regional campaign managers] don’t perform well, of course they’ll get more supervision.”

    Other Republicans suggest McCain is overcompensating for his top-heavy early campaign last year, which went broke and forced him to the brink before his improbable comeback.

    “The Mehlman campaign style of ’04 would never work for him and the beginning of the campaign proved that,” noted another GOP operative with ties to Bushworld. “But I just don’t know if this is realistic - why experiment in such a large-scale way?”

    McCain strategists insist their paradigm can work. And the sour national climate for the GOP, McCain’s limited money supply and his preference for an impromptu campaign style that he can take to all parts of the country, mean there is no other option but to break the mold, says one aide.

    “To run a normal, typical race like a normal, typical Republican, we would win 45 percent of the popular vote and 189 electoral votes,” this aide says. “You can’t just go to Columbus.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/17/politics/politico/main4024599.shtml?source=RSS&attr=_4024599

    Regular didn’t want me to leave anything out.

  28. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    Oh, so now this is an illegal campaign contribution? Somehow I missed that part. What part of the contribution is illegal?

    And, again I ask…how is this contribution McCain’s fault? What did he have to do with it? This seems like a very thin connection to blame someone..for something…somehow.

  29. Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:09 am | Permalink

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    Maggotpunk
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    “I’m not the one who omitted a very important statement of the article.”

    I provided a link to the article dumbass, I did not quote the entire article. Would you like me to take the time to cut and paste all three articles so I could make you happy by not having left anything out which you could have read by going to the link? As usual nutjob spin by the conservatives is pathetic.
    ———————
    You made the assertion, I just pointed out the conclusion of the article that the FEC has no records of such of sum being donated by the people you mentioned in the article.

    But please do feel free to make partial truth statements in the future. :)

  30. Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    The bundle of $2,300 and $4,600 checks that poured into Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign on March 12 came from an unlikely group of California donors: a mechanic from D&D Auto Repair in Whittier, the manager of Taco Bell stores in Riverside, the owners of a liquor store in Colton.

    But the man who gathered checks from them is no stranger to McCain — he shuttled the Republican on his private plane and held a fundraising event for the candidate at his house in Delray Beach, Fla.

    Harry Sargeant III, a former naval officer and the owner of an oil-trading company that recently inked defense contracts potentially worth more than $1 billion, is the archetype of a modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East and the former chief of the CIA’s bin Laden unit — who now serves as a consultant to his company — Sargeant has raised more than $100,000 for three presidential candidates from a collection of ordinary people, several of whom professed little interest in the outcome of the election.

    After initially helping to raise money for former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a Republican, and Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Sargeant, 50, has emerged as a major player in Florida fundraising for McCain. He has also become a conduit between McCain and Florida Gov. Charlie Crist (R), who was Sargeant’s college fraternity brother and remains a close friend.

    Crist, a beneficiary of Sargeant’s fundraising network, said he saw nothing unusual in its breadth. “I was not surprised, but I certainly was grateful for his and his family’s efforts,” he said, adding that he anticipates Sargeant assisting McCain not only with fundraising but also with advice on military affairs and the economy. “He’s been enormously helpful . . . already,” Crist said.

    The 2008 presidential campaign, which could see each side spend close to $500 million, has heightened the importance of “bundlers” such as Sargeant, who not only write checks themselves but also recruit scores of other donors to give the legal limit of $2,300. Questions about such donor networks have repeatedly emerged as points of stress for the campaigns.

    In January, Norman Hsu, a top Clinton bundler, was indicted in part on charges of circumventing legal giving limits by routing contributions though “straw donors.” Earlier this week, McCain drew questions about more than $60,000 in donations that were made this year to the Republican National Committee and his campaign by an office manager with the Hess oil company and her husband, an Amtrak track foreman. In that case, the couple said they used their own money.

    Some of the most prolific givers in Sargeant’s network live in modest homes in Southern California’s Inland Empire. Most had never given a political contribution before being contacted by Sargeant or his associates. Most said they have never voiced much interest in politics. And in several instances, they had never registered to vote. And yet, records show, some families have ponied up as much as $18,400 for various candidates between December and March.

    Both Sargeant and the donors were vague when asked to explain how Sargeant persuaded them to give away so much money.

    “I have a lot of Arab business partners. I do a lot of business in the Middle East. I’ve got a lot of friends,” Sargeant said in a telephone interview yesterday. “I ask my friends to support candidates that I think are worthy of supporting. They usually come through for me.”

    Sargeant’s business relationships, and the work they perform together, occur away from the public eye. His firm, International Oil Trading Co. (IOTC), holds several lucrative contracts with the Defense Department to carry fuel to the U.S. military in Iraq.

    “It is very difficult and is a very logistically intensive business that we have been able to specialize in,” Sargeant said. “We do difficult logistical things that don’t necessarily suit a major oil company. It’s a niche we’ve been able to occupy.”

    The work has not been without controversy. Last month, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) initiated a review of IOTC’s contract to determine whether it was overcharging the military for jet fuel, and to learn how the company, which did not submit the lowest bid, landed the contract to supply the fuel. The Pentagon has said that IOTC won the contract because it was the only company with a “letter of authorization” from the Jordanian government to move the fuel across its territory to Iraq.

    Sargeant said he has met with Waxman. “We plan to cooperate fully,” he said. “Everything we have done on this contract has been in the best interest of the military and the U.S. taxpayers.”

    Sargeant said the same people who have helped him build relationships around the world also helped him create a vast network. In recruiting some donors, he confirmed he had help from a business associate who formerly was a top counterterrorism official in the CIA.

    A review of state and federal campaign finance records found that this collection of donors has been activated four times. Their names — confirmed by Sargeant — first appeared in finance records on June 19, 2006, when about 50 of them each donated $500 to Crist’s gubernatorial campaign. Sargeant helped lead fundraising for Crist that year.

    Thirteen of the donors resurfaced on Dec. 13, 2007, sending a combined $29,200 to Giuliani’s campaign at a time when Sargeant was heading up fundraising efforts in Florida for the former mayor. Seventeen of them sent the maximum allowed, $2,300, to Clinton’s presidential campaign on Dec. 24. And a dozen of them returned in March to write checks to McCain totaling $50,600.

    Brian Rogers, a McCain campaign spokesman, said: “We strictly follow campaign finance law, and where flags are raised, we’ll certainly look into it.”

    Donors reached by phone or interviewed in person declined to explain who asked them to make the contributions.

    Ibrahim Marabeh, who is listed in public records as a Rite Aid manager, at first denied that he wrote any political checks. He then said he was asked by “a local person. But I would like not to talk about it anymore.” Neither he nor his wife is registered to vote, but the two donated $4,600 to Clinton and $4,600 to Giuliani in December.

    At the Twilight Hookah Lounge, owned by Nadia and Shawn Abdalla, patrons smoke tobacco flavored with honey and fruit from a menu that includes the strawberry-flavored Sex on the Beach and the strong, orange-flavored Fuzzy Navel.

    The Abdallas, who are not registered to vote, said in an interview that they recalled writing a check to an organization in Miami, because a person with that organization was a friend of their mother’s. They said they could not remember his name.

    Nader, 39, and Sahar Alhawash, 28, of Colton, Calif, who at one point ran the Avon Village Liquor store, donated a total of $18,400 to Giuliani, Clinton and McCain between December and March. About 80 people in the country made such large contributions to all three, and most were wealthy business executives, such as Donald Trump. The Alhawashes declined to comment about the donations. Abdullah Abdullah, a supervisor at several Taco Bell restaurants in the Riverside area, and his wife have donated $9,200 to McCain.

    Reached at work, Abdullah said he knows little about the campaign. “I have no idea. I’ll be honest with you,” he said. “I’m involved in the restaurant business. My brother Faisal recommended John McCain. Whenever he makes a recommendation, we do it.”

    Faisal Abdullah, 49, said he helped organize all of the contributions from members of his family. When he was asked who solicited the contributions from him, he said: “Why does it matter who? I’m telling you we made the contribution. We funneled it through the channel in Florida because that’s the contact we had. I was responsible for collecting it.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080602485.html

    I could have just cut out the relevant paragraphs but I didn’t want to be accused of leaving anything out. I hope you all appreciate having to scroll down really far. Thank Regular for requiring the entire cut and paste of articles. I’ll stop when it’s demanded.

  31. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    For all the verbal jousting going on here, has anyone bothered to look at the voting results from Tuesday? During the presidential primaries, the blog was FULL of congratulatory comments from the Dems about how active/involved they were. How much more likely they were to vote than Reps, with much self praise going on about involvement, etc.

    Welllll…Tuesdays official results from the County Election office show something a little different. The facts don’t seem to bear out the hype:

    BALLOTS CAST - DEMOCRAT …… 12267

    Precinct Reported 0251 ,Eligible Precinct 0251

    BALLOTS CAST - REPUBLICAN …… 24005

    Interesting, isn’t it?

  32. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Raptor, did you look to see how many contests the Democratic Party had in the primary? I usually register as a republican for primaries so I have contests to cast my vote.

    Saddest is how few Kansans (no matter the affiliation!) voted.

  33. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    “If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.” — Bill Clinton

    “How fortunate for government that the people do not think!”
    - Adolf Hitler

  34. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    True, Linda…it is very sad how few people voted. Less than 19% of registered voters.
    Regardless of the number of races, this is pathetic. Voting is one of our most treasured rights, and people ignore it. “not enough candidates”. “inconvenient” “I am too busy” etc., are all very poor excuses to not participate in something that other countries could only dream of having.

  35. Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    Pol-Mom,

    First, I do not recall McCain being ‘mine’. I have not endorsed anyone for president. And I will certainly not endorse anyone if by election day I end holding my nose and voting for the lesser of two evils.

    You can write a better reply besides assigning me a position so that you can rail against it. Feel free to comment on the substance of my post.

  36. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    I’m in a job that I get to talk to a lot of people of different beliefs and political leanings. I’m surprised at how many have no interest in the political contests.

    Most people have no idea of the judges. I’m surprised of how many didn’t even know who Peterjohn or Winters were.

    I don’t want these people to vote.

  37. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Hey Linda,

    Rapter’s point still holds, the dems stayed home. There were some important races in the democrat primary. The fact that the dems didn’t participate doesn’t look good for the November elections.

    There was a lot of hype during the caucus season, a lot of hype with little substance. Primaries are notorious for low turnout but this past one was sad. Sad on both sides.

    In 1994 I lost the primary in the 93rd district to Carl Koster with more votes than were cast for the three candidates combined on Tuesday. Sad.

  38. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    I have much HOPE for the general election! We’ll talk again when that one is over. ;-)

  39. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted August 6, 2008 at 11:32 pm | Permalink
    I get it now.

    “ANTI” is Hank.
    —–
    BlueJay lie #36

  40. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    BJ-”Time to show your cards or lay them down there “ANTI”.”
    ——
    OK, I have a 3 of diamonds, 7 of clubs, Jack of hearts, and the Ace of spades. Do I win?

    hee hee hee…zzzzzzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzzzzzzz, zzzzzzz

  41. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    You only got four cards, Anti. How do you expect to win anything with that hand? What are you playing?

  42. Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    ““ANTI” is Hank.”

    That’s not a lie.

    It’s a guess.

    And until proven otherwise?

    It sticks.

  43. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Good morning, junior!

    What color is the sky in your little, delusional Walter Mitty world?

    nitwit

  44. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Blue Jay is beber.

    (two can play at that game)

  45. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink
    You only got four cards, Anti. How do you expect to win anything with that hand? What are you playing?
    ——
    Go Fish? I dunno, it’s BlueJay’s fantasy tinkerbell game.

  46. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    If it’s blackjack I’m screwed!

  47. Political_mama
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    Wow. Just.. Wow.

    How exactly do you argue with someone when their arguments are so profoundly…sick?

  48. Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:27 am | Permalink

    Raptor - the two Republicans in my family will likely be casting at least some votes for democrats this fall. Similarly, the Democrat will probably end up voting for a Republican or two. (Not sure yet - haven’t looked at the entire fall ballot yet)

  49. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    That’s not a lie.

    It’s a guess.

    And until proven otherwise?

    It sticks.

    Junior wears pink panties while his mother beats him with a belt. He liked to play with barbies when he was a boy. He feels he is not smart enough to run a successful business, so everyone else should pay his way.

    And until proven otherwise?

    It sticks.

  50. Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    When Wing-Nuts Attack

    After freelance photographer John Quinn insisted on saying the Pledge of Allegiance at the start of an Obama rally at Baldwin-Wallace College, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama led the gathering in saying the pledge.

    Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama came to Baldwin-Wallace College in Berea Tuesday afternoon to talk about his energy policies, as he had earlier in the day in Youngstown.

    But before he could delve into the topic, a man in the press photo gallery interrupted him, shouting complaints that the Illinois senator had not started the program with the Pledge of Allegiance. Many in the packed gymnasium murmured and some booed the disruption, but Obama took the heckler in stride and asked him to lead the pledge.

    The crowd rose to its feet, Obama placed his hand over his heart and everyone recited the pledge. Obama thanked the man, who was not removed by campaign staff, and returned to his speech.

    The man carried a large, professional-style camera, according to the Associated Press, and stood among other photographers on a press platform directly in front of Obama. The man identified himself to the AP as “John Q. Public” and declined to identify his news organization.

    Later he was identified at John Quinn of Parma.

    —–

    Hey, CONs. 1986 called. It wants its talking points back.

  51. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Ben,

    My Dad is a die hard liberal. ‘Ceptin he is fiscally conservative. He’ll be votin Libertarian this year. Can’t tell you what motivated him to do that :-b

  52. Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Project much solie?

    How ARE those kids that got taken away from you?

  53. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    RJR, 42

  54. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    How ARE those kids that got taken away from you?

    Whiffed on that one scooter.

    Do your pink panties have ruffles? Granny panties? I can’t imagine that you wear your thong in front of your mother…

  55. Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Heh HEH!

    Like a cornered animal, the cons are.

    Let’s help them out with that.

    Editors? Ron Suskind is a Pulitzer prize winning author.

    If what he says in his new book, “Way of the World” is true?

    bush and cheney are going to jail.

    Let’s have a thread about this.

  56. LLTVET
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Meanwhile, Musharraf is facing impeachment and Pakistan is even more unstable.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26069143

  57. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Some people just can’t be good little socialist-

    CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Riot police used tear gas Wednesday to block hundreds of Venezuelans protesting the latest moves by President Hugo Chavez to concentrate his power. The demonstrators said a blacklist of opposition candidates and a series of socialist decrees are destroying what’s left of their democracy.
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080807/D92D4QGO0.html

  58. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    McCain was invited to speak at the annual salute to veterans held at Buffalo Chip. Previous invitees have included Patriot Guard, the American Veterans Traveling Tribute (moving Vietnam Wall), the US Army Golden Knights, B1B flyover, etc.

    The podium was what was provided, and he made do. Is that problem?

    He was there to honor veterans. His comment about his wife was a JOKE. Don’t you people have any sense of humor at all? Besides, there are different aspects to the Ms Buffalo Chip contest. It is not a topless contest, regardless of what you might have read. I have been there many, many times and speak from first hand knowledge.

  59. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    “biker gangs”?? Oh get real. The huge majority of attendees at Sturgis are normal type people, who trailer their bikes there. It is not at all like in the late 70’s, early 80’s when it was heavily populated by outlaws. Now it is a gathering of “motorcycle enthusiasts” instead of bikers.

    Don’t speak of things you have no knowledge of MH.

  60. Political_mama
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    McC8nt has a history of very inappropriate ‘jokes’.

  61. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Since when is the truth “squirming”? You asked, and I answered why he was there. Is it not possible for you to recognize a JOKE when you hear one? Of course not..you have your hate blinders on and will criticize anything and everything.

  62. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    PMom, There are many here who don’t know or care what is appropriate. Did you read the thread about the Paris Hilton video? You can get the “take” on the character (lack of!) a few of the posters there!

  63. TomPaine
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Ive been to sturgis most of what goes on would probably offend most conservatives( and alot of liberals too) its basically mardi gras on bikes.

  64. Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    “Is it not possible for you to recognize a JOKE when you hear one? ”

    Well I recognize that John McCain is a joke.

  65. Pedant
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    :lol:

    Thanks for that, Monkeyhawk just went up a couple notches in my estimation.

  66. Pedant
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    :lol:

    I know it ain’t necessary, but I ask you all to compare you know who’s 10:29am post with his 7:16am post.

    ***
    Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink
    Ever notice how Libs love and take great pleasure to repeat distasteful words ad nauseum?
    re: 7:12a.m.

    The way I was raised, one might acknowledge that something bad was said, but to keep repeating the word or words, is indicative of the personality of the person repeating said words.
    ***

    Pffft, so much for railing…er, flailing against “said words.” :D

  67. TomPaine
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    What Ashcroft wants to know details on other people’s sex lives but doesnt what to share his, sounds like a perv to me, and this was a guy who spent thousands of dollars covering a statue cause stone tits bothered him

  68. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    It seems this would be ANOTHER situation where

    IOKIYAR

    would be apropos.

  69. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Mardi Gras: beads/parades/open containers/public nudity on the streets. Origins in religiois celebrations prior to Shrove Tuesday.

    Sturgis: no beads/no parades/quick arrest for open alcohol containers/public nudity. Origins in 1938 with an AMA Gypsy Tour, sponsored by Pappy Hoel, the Indian Dealer in Sturgis.

    Not quite the same thing…his analogy was in the aspect of large party with lots of people. Much of the “offensive” behavior is overstated, and depends on the campground/hotel you stay, you are not “exposed” to any of the wild stuff.

    My first attendance was 1979 when a lot of what went on in City Park (since closed) would be offensive to just about anyone.

  70. Boxlock
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Pelosi’s book sales debacle [#41 on the Non-Fiction Chart] is dramatically overshadowed by the first high profile anti-Obama book, OBAMA NATION, which debuts at #1 on both the BOOKSCAN and the NEW YORK TIMES Bestseller List, with 21,466 copies moved, industry insiders tell DRUDGE.

    Hum, what to make of that (?).

  71. Pedant
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    Sol, you there?

    Your post from the tire thread yesterday is giving me fits, fyi. I’m still ponderin’ it. :D
    ***
    SolDevVB
    Posted August 6, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink
    2) Decrease US demand for oil to the point where we effectively kill the threat to US democracy posed by Islamic terrorism by killing its financial lifeblood.

    China and India will pick up the demand we shed.
    ***

    Ouch. Good point, and it applies in either the short or long term.

  72. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    mh…what a class act. (not)

  73. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    “Hum, what to make of that (?).”

    Well, the more thought that people put into the political process, the worse that dems look.

    HEHEHEHEHE

  74. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    I don’t know Joe, I think thqat last post deserves to be sent to you and all your neighbors on a postcard.

    Such humor needs to be shared!

    I got a program that will print the cards with postage.

    I’ll work on it.

  75. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Ouch. Good point, and it applies in either the short or long term.

    Roger that Pedant. The ‘bad guys’ will still be heavily financed even after we are independent of their oil. The question that pickles my brain;

    If we are independent of Mid-East oil, will we still have a presence there? If we no longer have a presence there, will we still screw with their politics? If neither of the above apply will they still hate us and want to kill us?

  76. beber
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    “Hum, what to make of ” — boxlock

    Sheep drooling.

  77. annie_moose
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/image/42338

    ok, I confess It’s me holding the baby

  78. Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Another reminder to parents as the school year begins.

    Two provisions of the “No Child Left Behind” act give the military access to your child’s name, address, phone number, and who knows what else.

    If you wish to protect your child’s privacy, you have to file an opt out form with the school.

    If you have filed the form before, be aware that these requests are only honored for one year and you have to re file.

    More info at this link…

    http://www.militaryfreezone.org/diy

  79. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    That can’t be edward’s kid. The hair isn’t nearly perfect enough.

  80. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Thank you, junior!

    It’s always nice to get a reminder from you on the care and feeding of children!

    Any one that can’t seem to control his bitterness and hate long enough to buy a taco at a drive through or get a fishing license at WalMart is always the first one I turn to for advice!

  81. Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    My “Comedy Stylings of John Sidney McCain the Third
    (for Shrub’s 3rd term) have apparently been deleted.

    So much for the the so-called “liberal bias” of WE Blog editors.

    Hope you got those postcards printed up, “HLP.”

  82. Predestined
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Most people have no idea of the judges.

    I admit to being among most people. How does one learn about the judges and what should I look for there?

    Edumacate me, y’all.

  83. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Congressman wants to bring up ‘Paris Hilton plan’
    Posted: 12:29 PM ET
    By CNN Radio’s Lisa Desjardins

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — The lines between celebrity and politician blurred Thursday at a Republican news conference, as one congressman began pushing Paris Hilton’s “plan” on energy.

    “Let’s bring up the Paris Hilton plan,” goaded Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas.

    Burgess and his fellow Republicans are in the fifth day of energy speeches on the House floor, despite the fact that the chamber is closed for August recess. They’re trying to pressure House Speaker Nancy Pelosi into holding a vote on offshore oil drilling.

    http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/

  84. Predestined
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    BALLOTS CAST - DEMOCRAT …… 12267

    Precinct Reported 0251 ,Eligible Precinct 0251

    BALLOTS CAST - REPUBLICAN …… 24005

    Interesting, isn’t it?

    —–
    Raptor, it would be even more interesting if I had the figures for the number of registered voters in each party. Not so much to see what percentage of registered voters voted, but to see how the parties are split. Could it be that there are more registered Rs than Ds? After all, this IS a red state, right? Does anyone have that information and can share? Without being completely informed, any comments posted are sweeping generalizations with little to back them up.

  85. Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Your enrollment experience may vary.

    The form to opt out the military from access to MY son’s information WAS included in his enrollment packet.

    But among the dozen or so sign in stations AT enrollment, there was no station providing this form.

    Be aware that there is a cut off date to get the form filed. I think it is Sept. 20.

  86. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Hope you got those postcards printed up, “HLP.”

    I’ll take that as your invitation.

  87. XXX
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    He was there to honor veterans.

    No he wasn’t. He was there trying to get votes. McCain doesn’t care about vets, or anybody else for that matter. All he cares about is getting to be president.

    Of course that’s when he can remember what he was out there talking to all of those people for in the first place.

  88. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    nope, mh..not a ‘liberal bias’..more of a decency one. Your poor taste comments were juvenile, vulgar and added nothing of substance except to prove what that childish vulgarities are not tolerated.

    There is hope for this blog yet.

  89. avtolle
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Pre, it is difficult for those not dealing with the judges on a regular basis to know much, if anything, about them. The Eagle/Bar Association survey is a little help to the voters, but darned little IMO. One of the requirements for responding to the survey was for the attorney respondents to only “rate” the judges the attorney had appeared before. Some of us don’t litigate, and may only appear before one judge on occasion (or never appear in district court, for those attorneys whose practice is limited to federal court, as an example), so those responding are a limited subset of all attorneys.

    I really don’t have a good answer for you, as you can tell.

  90. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Predestined…unlike some of the lib posters here, I don’t normally make “sweeping generalizations”. My opinionated comment about the vote was (and I quote)

    “Interesting, isn’t it?”

    I did include some historical commentary, about the libs going into hyper drive on the Democratic turnout during the caucuses, but I don’t believe I made any ’sweeping generalizations’. If I did, I am sorry and will correct them.

    I do not strive to emulate the gross, unsubstantiated claims of people like capn and beber.

  91. Raptor
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    xxx… McCain was invited by the organizing committee and spoke on the day designated to honor veterans. Everything a candidate does is campainging for votes, that is what they do–both parties.
    I was answering questions about WHY he was there in the first place.

  92. Nathaniel
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay,

    For someone always bragging about how you give your son the choice on these issues, I guess he will not be getting the choice on joining the military, heh?

    Wouldn’t want those big bad nasty mean recruiters contacting him.

    He might actually be told the truth about the military instead of what dad tells him.

  93. Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Sure, “HLP” –

    I hope you’ll put the whole thing in context with the c*nt, and trollop, and gorilla rape joke. But I know you won’t.

    Still.

    I’m eager to get a postcard from you. So would my neighbors and friends. But especially, so would the campaign for John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term).

    I know the kind of jokes McC*nt likes to tell and I could really spice up his speech in Minneapolis.

    Go for it, “HLP!”

    Get “the boy” to help you!

  94. Nathaniel
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    MonkeyHawk,

    Don’t you think it is a bit absurd for someone like you who is routinely more vulgar and vile than McCain is accused of being to make such a big deal about it?

  95. Nathaniel
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Liberal bias of the Editors?

    Where is a thread talking about Obama going negative? Everytime McCain does we get a thread about it. Still nothing from the Editors on Obama.

  96. Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080731143345.htm#

    “Sunlight has the greatest potential of any power source to solve the world’s energy problems, said Nocera. In one hour, enough sunlight strikes the Earth to provide the entire planet’s energy needs for one year.”

    *****

    Since this discovery doesn’t make the rich richer, expect the CONs to fight it tooth and nail . . .
    MIT scientists use photosynthesis model based on plants to create hydrogen from water.

    Result is easy, cheap, non-polluting solar-based energy.

  97. FilmFan
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    I have another question to pose to all you fine folk - and this time it isn’t pertainin’ to opiate pain prescriptions.

    If a pregnant teenager decides to give birth - and is adamant that the child should be relinquished for adoption for a compelling number of reasons - and the teenage father is hostile and uncommunicative and refuses his cooperation - what are her options?

    I am, of course, looking back on my own life and wondering how I could have proceeded differently. My mother and I would have been in total agreement - neither she nor I would have been able to raise a child - any child. However, is it not my understanding that the father must also give his consent to this adoption? What if he does not? What if he wishes neither to raise and/or support the child nor expend the mental/physical effort to sign a consent form?

    I certainly understand his exasperation: Signing a number of forms would, for a time, tear him away from his ever-present dope supply, playing Butt Bong Fiesta with his omnipresent harem of underage bimbettes, and pillowing half the nubility of the Northern Continent. But here’s the icky-awful part: He refused to even broach the subject.

    He refused to even speak civilly to me, despite my solitary effort to do so. He was so ugly and hateful and vile that it rendered me utterly moribund. I still remember trying to form the word “pregnant” and being unable to get past the “p” before the parade of filth began. I then drove home, attempted to feign a benign conversation with my unsuspecting mother, bursting into tears, and locking myself in my bedroom.

    Ah yes - weren’t the 1970s the decade of “peace, love and flowers?” No, wait - the seventies were the “me” decade. No one epitomized this self-absorption more than my impregnator.

    My point is this, though: What would I have done had this waste of sperm and egg failed to rouse himself from his pre-alcoholic puerility and/or post-coital torpor and done the right thing? Certainly, he did not want the child. To be sure, he didn’t want to be bothered with this added burden on his already over-burdened life. But just out of meanness, I can see him saying, “Nah! I ain’t signin’ that (expletive) thing! It’s yer own fault! Ya didn’t stop me! Yer the female! Second sex! Cheaper cut!”

    And so on and so forth.

    Millions of women and young girls have abortions because they cannot bear the unendurable. It is not my place to say who was right and who was wrong. But in my case, I believe a whole lot of us were wrong 33 years ago. It was my idiocy to place 100% of my heart with this utterly unsuitable individual. It was his mistake to behave like something Bob Guccione deposited in the men’s room of a seedy strip club early in 1956.

    But had I required his permission to proceed so long ago, what would I have done?

  98. Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    “Wouldn’t want those big bad nasty mean recruiters contacting him.”

    Before he is 18 and without my advice and consent?

    No.

  99. avtolle
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    The prospective adopting parents would have filed a Petition for Adoption in the District Court (assuming this was after court unification), and the matter would have proceeded to hearing before the judge handling the case. The impregnator would have his opportunity to produce evidence in court as to why he would not consent to the adoption, and why he opposed it. Presuming he would not have appeared, it is likely the court would have granted the adoption on a default basis. If he did appear, but failed to convince the court by clear and competent evidence that the proposed adoption was not in the best interests of the child, the court would likely have granted the adoption.

    All obtaining the consent from the father does is: 1) prove he was notified of the proceeding; 2) that he does not contest it. Failure to consent allows the father to show the court why the adoption should not be granted, and why he should be granted custody of the child.

  100. lindainks55
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Pre, I am as lost as you about the judges, seems many of us might be. I read the guide Vaughn mentioned, I ask friends and neighbors, but I also employ another litmus test. A few blocks away on a route my dog and I take frequently on walks is a house that has a permanent “shrine” to the occupants desire to overturn roe v wade. These same occupants ALWAYS have many campaign signs in their yard. I take note and make sure I don’t vote for one represented there — ESPECIALLY judges!

  101. Posted August 7, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    The boy, “Nathaniel” all of a sudden arrives with –

    “Don’t you think it is a bit absurd for someone like you who is routinely more vulgar and vile than McCain is accused of being to make such a big deal about it?”

    Absurd?

    Of course it’s absurd.

    (Although I find it interesting that “HLP” doesn’t respond but, instead, calls his “boy” to come to his defense.)

    I think it’s absurd John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) thout it politically expedient to offer his trllop wife up for a topless “beauty” contest where talent points are awarded for felating a banana and showing off her boobs. (Albeit, her biggest boob was speaking at to the bikers at the time.)

    Of course it’s absurd that McC*nt got a whole week’s worth of media coverage by denigrating the concept of practical, real-world actions (i.e., everyone maintaining proper tire pressure) which could save more oil than all off-shore drilling might produce. And then, McBush has to admit that Obama was right in the first place. Yeah, that’s absurd.

  102. Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    laissez les bons temps rouler

  103. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Quit typing in German Farmie. Makes my eyes hurt.

  104. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink
    laissez les bons temps rouler
    ——-
    WHAT??? You know I don’t speak spanish!

  105. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    “John Edwards’ reluctance to refute allegations that he had an affair and child with his former videographer could jeopardize his potential role as a Democratic National Convention speaker and surrogate for his party’s presumptive nominee.”

    “If he wants to have a role in the convention or any other significant role in the Obama campaign or a potential Obama administration, I think he has to credibly respond to it,” Don Fowler, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told FOXNews.com.

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/07/edwards-party-role-clouded-by-allegations/

    I know how you Libs love Fox.

  106. Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Oh come on you guys. It’s Cajun for “let the good times roll” the unofficial state motto for Looooosiana and Mardi Gras.

    And it sounds like it should be for Sturgis too!

  107. Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    There IS no opt out form for this.

    Parents of middle school age kids should be aware of a course called “leadership”.

    At least in USD 259, “leadership” is actually the Junior ROTC, a military recruitment tool.

    My son was invited to take “leadership” when he was 10 or 11.

    I was not informed or consulted.

    Be aware and informed as to your middle school child’s course enrollment. At this age, they are trusted to make some of their own decisions.

    They and their parents should be well informed in their choices.

  108. Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Heheheheh

    “a topless “beauty” contest where talent points are awarded for felating a banana and showing off her boobs:

    That’s what prompted me to say laissez les bons temps rouler.

    indeed

  109. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    KFG, how do you say that in Coon Ass?

  110. Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    That IS coon ass, not real French!

    Kinda like low German

    And the Russian-Low German we speak out here is kinda like Spanglish.

    Oy!

    Just thought I’d throw that into the multicultural pot!

  111. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    “Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to this resolution, which is yet another meaningless but provocative condemnation of China. It is this kind of jingoism that has led to such a low opinion of the United States abroad. Certainly I do not condone human rights abuses, wherever they may occur, but as Members of the U.S. House of Representatives we have no authority over the Chinese government. It is our Constitutional responsibility to deal with abuses in our own country or those created abroad by our own foreign policies. Yet we are not debating a bill to close Guantanamo, where abuses have been documented. We are not debating a bill to withdraw from Iraq , where scores of innocents have been killed, injured, and abused due to our unprovoked attack on that country. We are not debating a bill to reverse the odious FISA bill passed recently which will result in extreme abuses of Americans by gutting the Fourth Amendment.”

    By… Guess who

  112. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    For you unfamiliar folk, Coon Ass is not a racial slur- it is like a swamp redneck or backwoods folk.

  113. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
    That IS coon ass, not real French!
    ——
    I never could make out what the hell language it was during my time is southern LA.

  114. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    And to complete his statement

    “I do find it ironic that this resolution “calls on the Government of the People’s Republic of China to begin earnest negotiations, without preconditions, directly with His Holiness the Dalai Lama or his representatives.” For years US policy has been that no meeting or negotiation could take place with Iran until certain preconditions are met by Iran . Among these is a demand that Iran cease uranium enrichment, which Iran has the right to do under the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty. It is little wonder why some claim that resolutions like this are hypocritical.

    Instead of lecturing China, where I have no doubt there are problems as there are everywhere, I would suggest that we turn our attention to the very real threats in a United States where our civil liberties and human rights are being eroded on a steady basis. The Bible cautions against pointing out the speck in a neighbor’s eye while ignoring the log in one’s own. I suggest we contemplate this sound advice before bringing up such ill-conceived resolutions in the future.”

    http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=270

  115. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

  116. Phantom
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Our withdraw will be based on political considerations on the ground as the impact the presidential race.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080807/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_us_bases_2

  117. Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    I got a call from a Major in the Air Force once who spelled his name just like mine. He said he was a “coon ass” from Louisiana which took me aback because I never heard of the term before. He sort of explained the term to me.

    Anyway, we weren’t related as his ancestors came from the North Carolina line and mine from the Pennsylvania line. Although both came from the Northern Ireland line in Raphoe County or parish, don’t remember now.

  118. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Rothluric, County Cork.

  119. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    It is Charleville now. I prefer the traditional name.

  120. Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    “ANTI” shares –

    “I never could make out what the hell language it was during my time is southern LA.”

    Mostly its a word-for-word translation from French to English, but since French is a romance language the verbs and nouns, subjects and objects, adjectives and adverbs get juxtaposed in word-for-word translations. Listen to old Justin Wilson bits, for example. A simple question like (and I don’t know enough French to know if this is a good example, merely a f’rinstance), the simple question, “What is it?” becomes something like “What it is?”

    During my years on the radio in Beaumont, I got to know a bunch of Cajuns. An amazing sub-culture in the American mix. And you’ve never eaten such good food.

  121. SolDevVB
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Vox Clamantis

  122. Regular
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Ah Raphoe Parish, County Donegal. Took awhile for the brain cells to kick in.

  123. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    And you’ve never eaten such good food.
    —–
    Well, I sure as hell didn’t loose any weight while I was down there! But I haven’t been able to eat Kansas seafood since….

  124. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Vox Clamantis
    —-
    Take penicillin, that should clear it up.

  125. ANTI
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    lose/loose

  126. Political_mama
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    FF brings up a whole lot of good points in the requirement of the sperm donor and adoption. For one, the guy may not want to even acknowledge the incident, it could hurt something of his. For second, it puts the guy in a position of power over the woman. If I had chose adoption, and my ex chose to contest the adoption, I would feel so guilty for leaving the child with him that I’d feel obligated to care for the child myself. Which is what happened anyway, but that was MY choice. I wasn’t coerced into it. Another thing is some want a way to tie themselves to the woman forever.. And I do realize that sometimes women do that too. But by in large it is the woman who gets stuck with all the responsiblity. And the man can always find a way to weasel out of it.

  127. Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Converting electricity into hydrogen using this much more efficient method would also be the answer to GMC’s objections about storing wind power.

    In fact, this process looks to be so efficient, it would enable homeowners to disconnect from the grid and generate their own power with a fuel cell.

  128. Political_mama
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    That picture is absurd of ‘Edwards’ and ‘his love child’ Please. Those are professional photographers and THIS was the best they could do? Whatever.

    And yet, we have a settlement and we’re supposed to just drop it over a stalking case on another thread.

  129. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    #
    CapnAmerica
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Converting electricity into hydrogen using this much more efficient method would also be the answer to GMC’s objections about storing wind power.

    In fact, this process looks to be so efficient, it would enable homeowners to disconnect from the grid and generate their own power with a fuel cell.

    __________________________________________________

    Come on Capn., we went through this all the other day. There is nothing new here. No great way to divorce from the grid.

    This ’scientist’ at MIT got a 10 million dollar grant and all we get is this little beaker with bubbles.

  130. HLP
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Political_mama
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    That picture is absurd of ‘Edwards’ and ‘his love child’ Please. Those are professional photographers and THIS was the best they could do? Whatever.

    __________________________________________________

    Why don’t you get the new edition of the Enquirer? I don’t think the ‘professional photographers’ got the good barrister to pose for the picture. It was probably taken through a hole in the wall.

  131. beber
    Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:25 pm | Permalink<