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Perfect Storm: Is Global Warming Racist?
It may be the progressive equivalent of the Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup — where two great tastes like peanut butter and chocolate collide into one amazing feast for the senses. I’m referring to a paper published recently claiming global warming is racist.
Call it the nexus of outrage — the perfect plank to exert one’s own heightened sensitivity until the rest of us puke through our nostrils.
Still, it’s true. Global warming does raise temperatures and who does that hurt most? Minority groups who probably own smaller, less expensive air conditioners. While rich white fat cats drive around in air-cooled, gold-plated limos immune to the searing outside heat caused in part by sorrow of the homeless, the rest of us must settle with a small breeze created by a pair of swinging oversized fuzzy dice hanging from a rearview.
So, blacks make up 13 percent of the U.S. population, yet emit 20 percent less greenhouse gases than us crackers. Also, they’re much more vulnerable to climate change consequences like storms, floods and films featuring Al Gore. They also fall victim to higher energy bills and recessions, none of which have anything to do with global warming, but so what.
Look, even if the panic merchants are right about global warming (and they aren’t), humans are still only a tiny bit to blame for global warming. The real culprit is the sun, whose own climate determines everything that happens here.
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Yes, it’s true. The sun is racist. I’d like to see Al Sharpton boycott that.
And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.
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Accountability Now! ‘Transpartisan’ Money Bomb “goes off” tommorrow!
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But ya know what: You have a beer, and find out you both think that absolute government sucks! Patriot Act. “Sneak-and-peek” searches. Warrantless wiretapping.
You can do something. It’s not much, but it’s a start
Consider contributing to a coalition of concerned citizens, to lean on certain polticians, and even replace them!: politicians like Steny Hoyer, Chris Carney, and John Barrow.
Tell Washington that the Bill of Rights matters.
Pledge now, and give tomorrow (August 8th).
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I cannot believe that there is no blog topic on John Edwards and his fall from grace. It is a great example of how at the national level political campaigns are more about marketing and perception than about truth. Look at the campaigns now. One major candidate is little more than great speeches. The other does not seem to do anything but try to put his foot in his mouth.
And let’s not forget the great journalist watchdogs. How can a major player running for POTUS manage to have a love child without the media finding out about it?
Yippy skippy it’s Values Boys day! And look! He has written on how teens should be adults…perhaps the Catholics are jealous on how the FLDS keeps their youngsters in check.
PM, perhaps the same reason we haven’t had a blog on one guy who is the nominee called his wife a c*nt and a trollup and hasn’t been forced to answer whether or not he did and skirts the issue everytime someone manages to slip it in there.
Edwards has a sick wife, until that is better, we should leave them alone. He’s not a big player right now anyway.
And when you get yours who are actually doing ILLEGAL stuff out of office, I guess your side shouldn’t complain.
I can’t believe there isn’t a blog topic on President Bush drinking again, and Laura moving out of the White House, either.
I can’t believe there isn’t a blog topic on whether or not John McCain’s wife won the pickle licking contest or the topless contest at the biker rally. John offered his wife up as a contestant which isn’t surprising since he thinks she’s just a trollop and cunt.
Ever notice how Libs love and take great pleasure to repeat distasteful words ad nauseum?
re: 7:12a.m.
The way I was raised, one might acknowledge that something bad was said, but to keep repeating the word or words, is indicative of the personality of the person repeating said words.
Reg–
Like beber demonstrated the other day with his vulgar juvenile outburst. Is it a common practice around here–go for the shock of using vulgar language?
Hot Science
Still very quiet.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/512/
How many times have these shitballs floated the National Inquirer story about Edward’s love child on this blog? Ever notice that?
Regular says: The way I was raised, one might acknowledge that something bad was said, but to keep repeating the word or words, is indicative of the personality of the person repeating said words.
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Like when Pastor Wright’s words were acknowledged as something bad having been said. And of course never repeated and certainly not taken out of context.
Uh huh.
We did understand whose personality was on display when those words went on “ad nauseum.” But others tried day after day to make them something more.
ALL words that come directly from the mouth of a public person are representative of THAT person and repeating them doesn’t change that. Just ensures more hear them so more can KNOW who that public person is.
Well said Regular. I would like to quit seeing vulgar language on these blogs. And I think the C word is one of the most offensive words and to be used by a woman.
In addition, I thought your statements on how the global warming issue is racist was very well said. You have a way with your humor, you get the point across and in a very wittingly manner.
I have noticed how the media, which is mainly composed of whites who for some reason have this guilt about being white and having money are always trying to pull the race card. I sometimes feel that our candidates are being accused of that very same thing, but when you get down to it, I believe it is more the MSM that is behind it.
And if they really believed in global warming, why aren’t they changing their views that it is America who is mostly responsible when they have clearly shown us the smog in Bejing where our Olympics are to be held. For some reason, China is allowed to get away with that. If it were an American city, they would be all over it.
China has the right idea. You just don’t quit driving your vehicles when your economy is growing. I would add that it also true that when you have trucks, planes and trains transporting goods, you are growing when you put your truck drivers in the situation that America has, then you cut down that transportation of goods which slows the economy. Global Warming is just a convenient lie to destroy the economy in America.
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lindainks55
Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:41 am | Permalink
Regular says: The way I was raised, one might acknowledge that something bad was said, but to keep repeating the word or words, is indicative of the personality of the person repeating said words.
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Like when Pastor Wright’s words were acknowledged as something bad having been said. And of course never repeated and certainly not taken out of context.
Uh huh.
We did understand whose personality was on display when those words went on “ad nauseum.” But others tried day after day to make them something more.
ALL words that come directly from the mouth of a public person are representative of THAT person and repeating them doesn’t change that. Just ensures more hear them so more can KNOW who that public person is.
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Yes, but I didn’t repeat the offensive words, perhaps others did, I didn’t.
I pointed out who Obama was associated with, that is, until Obama no longer wanted to be associated with him.
Even you, lindainks, repeat the despicable word that McCain had supposed use of, by using an asterisk, even though everyone knew what the word was. PMom was the worst of the females to keep re-posting of the word.
For what purpose?
It’s almost as if you and the other Libs took great pleasure in using the word.
Show me that I’m wrong, so I may restore my faith in human kind.
:)
Isn’t it amazing that middle class people who rent their homes and live in a neighborhood with a median income of $58,000, and drive old cars, will shell out over $60,000 for McCain’s campaign?
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/hess_corporation_office_manage.php
You’d think with that sort of money they’d buy their own home. But I guess with people who have never donated to a campaign before they just got a bit excited and went overboard.
We’re all positive whatever “side” we represent is handling themselves with better decorum than the opponents. If we’re truthful we acknowledge none of us are innocent and there isn’t a “side” who can lay claim to remaining above the fray! There isn’t a better justification for poor behavior either.
Regular Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:16 am
“Ever notice how Libs love and take great pleasure to repeat distasteful words ad nauseum?
re: 7:12a.m.”
Of course you are right Regular, but what do you expect from a genuine Maggot?
For me, the purpose is to show the lack of character of McCain. If it isn’t true he could at minimum say so. I wouldn’t believe him, but he would be on record as denying it. Seems until he is it indicates to me he has some fear that he will be proven a liar and thus chooses to remain silent.
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Maggotpunk
Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:49 am | Permalink
Isn’t it amazing that middle class people who rent their homes and live in a neighborhood with a median income of $58,000, and drive old cars, will shell out over $60,000 for McCain’s campaign?
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/hess_corporation_office_manage.php
You’d think with that sort of money they’d buy their own home. But I guess with people who have never donated to a campaign before they just got a bit excited and went overboard.
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What was conveniently left out by Maggot.
Late Update: It should also be noted that FEC reports have no record of any Federal political contributions for the Rocchios before 2008. They both gave the maximum of $2,300 to McCain’s campaign this year.
“What was conveniently left out by Maggot.”
Oh, was I supposed to copy and paste all the articles? The link was provided. What you left out was that they did donate more, a lot of the donation went to the RNC which has a higher cap. McCain, which you have left out, has already mentioned he is coordinating his campaign with the RNC. So any donation to the RNC serves as a donation to the McCain campaign.
Try to be a bit more honest before you accuse someone else of being dishonest. However, it belies the fact that a middle class couple have donated beyond their financial means.
Edwards has a sick wife, until that is better, we should leave them alone. He’s not a big player right now anyway.
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Would that matter if he had an “R” behind his name vs a “D”?
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Maggotpunk
Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:59 am | Permalink
“What was conveniently left out by Maggot.”
Oh, was I supposed to copy and paste all the articles? The link was provided. What you left out was that they did donate more, a lot of the donation went to the RNC which has a higher cap. McCain, which you have left out, has already mentioned he is coordinating his campaign with the RNC. So any donation to the RNC serves as a donation to the McCain campaign.
Try to be a bit more honest before you accuse someone else of being dishonest. However, it belies the fact that a middle class couple have donated beyond their financial means.
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I’m not the one who omitted a very important statement of the article. :)
Maggot…and because a middle class couple has ‘donated beyond their financial means’ is this an indictment of McCain somehow? Did he hold a gun to their heads forcing them to sign the checks? Is it possible there is more to the story than is printed?
How, exactly, is this McCain’s fault? I am not sure I understand your outrage here…
“I’m not the one who omitted a very important statement of the article.”
I provided a link to the article dumbass, I did not quote the entire article. Would you like me to take the time to cut and paste all three articles so I could make you happy by not having left anything out which you could have read by going to the link? As usual nutjob spin by the conservatives is pathetic.
“Would that matter if he had an “R” behind his name vs a “D”?”
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Yes. Doubt has been cast. On another thread there is a man with Coach accompanying his name and doubt has been cast on him personally. His future behavior may dispel that doubt.
For the time being, where there is smoke there is often flame.
“Maggot…and because a middle class couple has ‘donated beyond their financial means’ is this an indictment of McCain somehow? Did he hold a gun to their heads forcing them to sign the checks? Is it possible there is more to the story than is printed?
How, exactly, is this McCain’s fault? I am not sure I understand your outrage here…”
It has to do with McCain’s close ties to the oil industry. They are going all out for McCain that they have no problem providing illegal campaign donations which McCain and the Republicans happily accept.
McCain Readies Unorthodox Campaign
Politico: Presumptive GOP Nominee Plans Decentralized Campaign Structure
For reasons of financial necessity, personal preference and plain politics, John McCain is gearing up to run one of the least traditional presidential campaigns in recent history.
The problem is that even prominent strategists within McCain’s own party wonder if his unorthodox strategy will work.
Facing the prospect of competing against a Democrat who is on track to shatter every fundraising record – and confronted by his own inability to rake in large bundles of cash – McCain and his key advisers have largely been forced into devising a three-pronged strategy that they hope can turn their general election weaknesses into strengths.
McCain will lean heavily on the well-funded Republican National Committee. He will merge key functions of his campaign hierarchy with the RNC while also relying on an unconventional structure of 10 regional campaign mangers.
And finally – and perhaps most importantly – McCain will rely on free media to an unprecedented degree to get out his message in a fashion that aims to not only minimize his financial disadvantage but also to drive a triangulated contrast between himself, the Democratic nominee and President Bush.
McCain advisers acknowledge they have little choice but to seek free entry into the media marketplace, as they have no chance of matching Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton in a dollar-for-dollar ad war, given that the Arizona senator’s fundraising totals pale in comparison to both his prospective opponents and the Bush-Cheney political machine.
But aides also hope they can turn necessity into virtue and argue that by facing tough questions from reporters on his bus each day and potentially even tougher ones from audience members at frequent town hall meetings, McCain will demonstrate how he’s different from two politicians who are far less accessible.
“People in the country are in a very bad mood and they want to have change,” says Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser to McCain. “And the first place they evaluate change is through the prism of what kind of campaigns candidates are running. Voters will have an indication of the different kind of presidency he would preside over by looking at his campaign.”
Mark Salter, another top aide to McCain, says Obama is running “one buttoned-up, conventional campaign.”
“Is new politics just stadium-sized crowds and lots of money?” he asks.
But the tactics aren’t solely meant to portray the Democratic candidates as distant and McCain as grounded.
McCain aides also want to paint their guy as different from an unpopular administration that prefers secrecy to transparency and friendly crowds to unpredictable ones.
“Sen. McCain believes every American should participate in the arena, and that includes people that don’t agree with him,” Schmidt says, taking care to note that such unscripted exchanges have waned “in the last decade.”
Additionally, McCain and his advisers want to pursue voters that look different than the bare majority coalition that Bush put together twice.
“We’re running a campaign that is not designed to get 50-plus-one-percent of the vote,” says Schmidt.
Even if they can’t win in places like California or inner cities – both of which McCain will stop in during his different-sort-of-Republican tour starting this week – they want to send a signal that he intends to at least compete for most every vote.
“You want to make sure that you tailor the campaign to the candidate and not other way around,” said Charlie Black, a top adviser. “And McCain sincerely believes in campaigning everywhere.”
But McCain’s campaign plan is as much about pragmatism as it is perception, despite efforts by his campaign team to create the notion that they are taking this route of their own free will.
First, his advisers can read polls and recognize the daunting right track/wrong track polling headwind that is gusting in their face.
Differences between Bush and McCain will be “discussed at great length,” promises one aide.
“He’ll be direct about it. He’s never gratuitous, never disrespectful, but there are going to be policy breaks where it couldn’t be clearer.” Two areas of difference McCain will highlight: global warming and spending.
And, quite practically, McCain doesn’t have much choice but to run a campaign that differs from the Bush model, given his lagging fundraising performance.
“It is true we’ll be outspent,” concedes Black. “But between the RNC and McCain we’ll raise enough money.”
Indeed, to help counter their money deficit, McCain strategists now suggest that the proper comparison should be between the combined assets of the campaign and the RNC and that of their opponent and the far less flush DNC.
“The McCain camp is funded jointly,” is how one adviser describes it.
By taking federal funds – something they intend to do, campaign manager Rick Davis told a closed-door meeting of chiefs of staff on Capitol Hill last week – McCain will receive $84 million.
That money, McCain aides say, will be bolstered by the $20 million in coordinated funds that they can legally direct the RNC to spend on anything they want.
Further, they’ll rely on the committee-campaign joint Victory Fund run out of the RNC, which allows contributions of up to $28,500 per person – far more than the $2,300 donors can give to individual candidates.
The Victory dollars will go into the states and be used to hire staffers, who in some cases will serve as the de facto McCain aides.
Other elements of the campaign, such as those tasked with developing coalitions and lining up surrogates, will also be placed at the RNC to save on overhead.
“Those functions that can legally be done at either [the campaign or RNC], we’ll err on the side of doing them at the RNC,” Black says. “The whole thing is under one umbrella in the way we are budgeting.”
So instead of hiring a traditional political director and field director at the headquarters, for example, they’ve so far effectively merged the functions between Davis’s deputy at the campaign, Christian Ferry, RNC adviser and former Rudy Giuliani chief Mike DuHaime, and the regional managers themselves.
The 10 regional managers, the last of which are being hired this week, will have both autonomy over and responsibility for the key elements of the campaign in their area: the political and field operation, relations with state and local media, and fundraising.
Some will have just a couple of states while others will have as many as six; the average will be about five. To spread the wealth, there will be at least one targeted and genuinely competitive state in each region.
They’ll have a daily phone call with McCain’s Arlington, Va., headquarters and answer directly to Davis. If Davis is absent, Ferry will ride herd. DuHaime will offer guidance from his role at the RNC.
The hope is to give these aides complete hiring and budget authority for their regions to make for a more responsive and agile campaign. As Davis told Hill aides last week, the goal is to have 80 percent of the structure in the field and 20 percent back at headquarters.
“You can get better service, better coordination and most importantly get decisions made much more quickly if it’s done in the states,” argues Frank Donatelli, deputy chairman of the RNC and the chief liaison between the committee and McCain campaign.
“We have some confidence in it because it’s kind of the way we got nominated,” adds Black. “Our people were out in the states. By definition, people in New Hampshire and South Crolina had a lot of authority.”
There has, however, been much private grumbling in the ranks of Republican operatives that such a decentralized plan, the campaign equivalent of federalism, will inevitably prove unrealistic and have to be scaled back.
First, says one prominent GOP strategist who worked in the Bush reelect, Davis won’t be able to directly oversee regional aides with all the other responsibilities that come with running a campaign. And further, says this source, delegating so much decision-making authority to different individuals will lead to mixed results. “There are some things campaigns are going to do everywhere because they work and are fundamental to the campaign,” says the strategist.
“In every campaign some people perform up to expectations and some people don’t,” Black said by way of tamping down such criticism. “If some [regional campaign managers] don’t perform well, of course they’ll get more supervision.”
Other Republicans suggest McCain is overcompensating for his top-heavy early campaign last year, which went broke and forced him to the brink before his improbable comeback.
“The Mehlman campaign style of ’04 would never work for him and the beginning of the campaign proved that,” noted another GOP operative with ties to Bushworld. “But I just don’t know if this is realistic – why experiment in such a large-scale way?”
McCain strategists insist their paradigm can work. And the sour national climate for the GOP, McCain’s limited money supply and his preference for an impromptu campaign style that he can take to all parts of the country, mean there is no other option but to break the mold, says one aide.
“To run a normal, typical race like a normal, typical Republican, we would win 45 percent of the popular vote and 189 electoral votes,” this aide says. “You can’t just go to Columbus.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/17/politics/politico/main4024599.shtml?source=RSS&attr=_4024599
Regular didn’t want me to leave anything out.
Oh, so now this is an illegal campaign contribution? Somehow I missed that part. What part of the contribution is illegal?
And, again I ask…how is this contribution McCain’s fault? What did he have to do with it? This seems like a very thin connection to blame someone..for something…somehow.
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Maggotpunk
Posted August 7, 2008 at 8:04 am | Permalink
“I’m not the one who omitted a very important statement of the article.”
I provided a link to the article dumbass, I did not quote the entire article. Would you like me to take the time to cut and paste all three articles so I could make you happy by not having left anything out which you could have read by going to the link? As usual nutjob spin by the conservatives is pathetic.
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You made the assertion, I just pointed out the conclusion of the article that the FEC has no records of such of sum being donated by the people you mentioned in the article.
But please do feel free to make partial truth statements in the future. :)
The bundle of $2,300 and $4,600 checks that poured into Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign on March 12 came from an unlikely group of California donors: a mechanic from D&D Auto Repair in Whittier, the manager of Taco Bell stores in Riverside, the owners of a liquor store in Colton.
But the man who gathered checks from them is no stranger to McCain — he shuttled the Republican on his private plane and held a fundraising event for the candidate at his house in Delray Beach, Fla.
Harry Sargeant III, a former naval officer and the owner of an oil-trading company that recently inked defense contracts potentially worth more than $1 billion, is the archetype of a modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East and the former chief of the CIA’s bin Laden unit — who now serves as a consultant to his company — Sargeant has raised more than $100,000 for three presidential candidates from a collection of ordinary people, several of whom professed little interest in the outcome of the election.
After initially helping to raise money for former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a Republican, and Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Sargeant, 50, has emerged as a major player in Florida fundraising for McCain. He has also become a conduit between McCain and Florida Gov. Charlie Crist (R), who was Sargeant’s college fraternity brother and remains a close friend.
Crist, a beneficiary of Sargeant’s fundraising network, said he saw nothing unusual in its breadth. “I was not surprised, but I certainly was grateful for his and his family’s efforts,” he said, adding that he anticipates Sargeant assisting McCain not only with fundraising but also with advice on military affairs and the economy. “He’s been enormously helpful . . . already,” Crist said.
The 2008 presidential campaign, which could see each side spend close to $500 million, has heightened the importance of “bundlers” such as Sargeant, who not only write checks themselves but also recruit scores of other donors to give the legal limit of $2,300. Questions about such donor networks have repeatedly emerged as points of stress for the campaigns.
In January, Norman Hsu, a top Clinton bundler, was indicted in part on charges of circumventing legal giving limits by routing contributions though “straw donors.” Earlier this week, McCain drew questions about more than $60,000 in donations that were made this year to the Republican National Committee and his campaign by an office manager with the Hess oil company and her husband, an Amtrak track foreman. In that case, the couple said they used their own money.
Some of the most prolific givers in Sargeant’s network live in modest homes in Southern California’s Inland Empire. Most had never given a political contribution before being contacted by Sargeant or his associates. Most said they have never voiced much interest in politics. And in several instances, they had never registered to vote. And yet, records show, some families have ponied up as much as $18,400 for various candidates between December and March.
Both Sargeant and the donors were vague when asked to explain how Sargeant persuaded them to give away so much money.
“I have a lot of Arab business partners. I do a lot of business in the Middle East. I’ve got a lot of friends,” Sargeant said in a telephone interview yesterday. “I ask my friends to support candidates that I think are worthy of supporting. They usually come through for me.”
Sargeant’s business relationships, and the work they perform together, occur away from the public eye. His firm, International Oil Trading Co. (IOTC), holds several lucrative contracts with the Defense Department to carry fuel to the U.S. military in Iraq.
“It is very difficult and is a very logistically intensive business that we have been able to specialize in,” Sargeant said. “We do difficult logistical things that don’t necessarily suit a major oil company. It’s a niche we’ve been able to occupy.”
The work has not been without controversy. Last month, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.) initiated a review of IOTC’s contract to determine whether it was overcharging the military for jet fuel, and to learn how the company, which did not submit the lowest bid, landed the contract to supply the fuel. The Pentagon has said that IOTC won the contract because it was the only company with a “letter of authorization” from the Jordanian government to move the fuel across its territory to Iraq.
Sargeant said he has met with Waxman. “We plan to cooperate fully,” he said. “Everything we have done on this contract has been in the best interest of the military and the U.S. taxpayers.”
Sargeant said the same people who have helped him build relationships around the world also helped him create a vast network. In recruiting some donors, he confirmed he had help from a business associate who formerly was a top counterterrorism official in the CIA.
A review of state and federal campaign finance records found that this collection of donors has been activated four times. Their names — confirmed by Sargeant — first appeared in finance records on June 19, 2006, when about 50 of them each donated $500 to Crist’s gubernatorial campaign. Sargeant helped lead fundraising for Crist that year.
Thirteen of the donors resurfaced on Dec. 13, 2007, sending a combined $29,200 to Giuliani’s campaign at a time when Sargeant was heading up fundraising efforts in Florida for the former mayor. Seventeen of them sent the maximum allowed, $2,300, to Clinton’s presidential campaign on Dec. 24. And a dozen of them returned in March to write checks to McCain totaling $50,600.
Brian Rogers, a McCain campaign spokesman, said: “We strictly follow campaign finance law, and where flags are raised, we’ll certainly look into it.”
Donors reached by phone or interviewed in person declined to explain who asked them to make the contributions.
Ibrahim Marabeh, who is listed in public records as a Rite Aid manager, at first denied that he wrote any political checks. He then said he was asked by “a local person. But I would like not to talk about it anymore.” Neither he nor his wife is registered to vote, but the two donated $4,600 to Clinton and $4,600 to Giuliani in December.
At the Twilight Hookah Lounge, owned by Nadia and Shawn Abdalla, patrons smoke tobacco flavored with honey and fruit from a menu that includes the strawberry-flavored Sex on the Beach and the strong, orange-flavored Fuzzy Navel.
The Abdallas, who are not registered to vote, said in an interview that they recalled writing a check to an organization in Miami, because a person with that organization was a friend of their mother’s. They said they could not remember his name.
Nader, 39, and Sahar Alhawash, 28, of Colton, Calif, who at one point ran the Avon Village Liquor store, donated a total of $18,400 to Giuliani, Clinton and McCain between December and March. About 80 people in the country made such large contributions to all three, and most were wealthy business executives, such as Donald Trump. The Alhawashes declined to comment about the donations. Abdullah Abdullah, a supervisor at several Taco Bell restaurants in the Riverside area, and his wife have donated $9,200 to McCain.
Reached at work, Abdullah said he knows little about the campaign. “I have no idea. I’ll be honest with you,” he said. “I’m involved in the restaurant business. My brother Faisal recommended John McCain. Whenever he makes a recommendation, we do it.”
Faisal Abdullah, 49, said he helped organize all of the contributions from members of his family. When he was asked who solicited the contributions from him, he said: “Why does it matter who? I’m telling you we made the contribution. We funneled it through the channel in Florida because that’s the contact we had. I was responsible for collecting it.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080602485.html
I could have just cut out the relevant paragraphs but I didn’t want to be accused of leaving anything out. I hope you all appreciate having to scroll down really far. Thank Regular for requiring the entire cut and paste of articles. I’ll stop when it’s demanded.
For all the verbal jousting going on here, has anyone bothered to look at the voting results from Tuesday? During the presidential primaries, the blog was FULL of congratulatory comments from the Dems about how active/involved they were. How much more likely they were to vote than Reps, with much self praise going on about involvement, etc.
Welllll…Tuesdays official results from the County Election office show something a little different. The facts don’t seem to bear out the hype:
BALLOTS CAST – DEMOCRAT …… 12267
Precinct Reported 0251 ,Eligible Precinct 0251
BALLOTS CAST – REPUBLICAN …… 24005
Interesting, isn’t it?
Raptor, did you look to see how many contests the Democratic Party had in the primary? I usually register as a republican for primaries so I have contests to cast my vote.
Saddest is how few Kansans (no matter the affiliation!) voted.
“If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.” — Bill Clinton
“How fortunate for government that the people do not think!”
– Adolf Hitler
True, Linda…it is very sad how few people voted. Less than 19% of registered voters.
Regardless of the number of races, this is pathetic. Voting is one of our most treasured rights, and people ignore it. “not enough candidates”. “inconvenient” “I am too busy” etc., are all very poor excuses to not participate in something that other countries could only dream of having.
Pol-Mom,
First, I do not recall McCain being ‘mine’. I have not endorsed anyone for president. And I will certainly not endorse anyone if by election day I end holding my nose and voting for the lesser of two evils.
You can write a better reply besides assigning me a position so that you can rail against it. Feel free to comment on the substance of my post.
I’m in a job that I get to talk to a lot of people of different beliefs and political leanings. I’m surprised at how many have no interest in the political contests.
Most people have no idea of the judges. I’m surprised of how many didn’t even know who Peterjohn or Winters were.
I don’t want these people to vote.
Hey Linda,
Rapter’s point still holds, the dems stayed home. There were some important races in the democrat primary. The fact that the dems didn’t participate doesn’t look good for the November elections.
There was a lot of hype during the caucus season, a lot of hype with little substance. Primaries are notorious for low turnout but this past one was sad. Sad on both sides.
In 1994 I lost the primary in the 93rd district to Carl Koster with more votes than were cast for the three candidates combined on Tuesday. Sad.
I have much HOPE for the general election! We’ll talk again when that one is over. ;-)
BlueJay
Posted August 6, 2008 at 11:32 pm | Permalink
I get it now.
“ANTI” is Hank.
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BlueJay lie #36
BJ-”Time to show your cards or lay them down there “ANTI”.”
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OK, I have a 3 of diamonds, 7 of clubs, Jack of hearts, and the Ace of spades. Do I win?
hee hee hee…zzzzzzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzzzzzzz, zzzzzzz
You only got four cards, Anti. How do you expect to win anything with that hand? What are you playing?
““ANTI” is Hank.”
That’s not a lie.
It’s a guess.
And until proven otherwise?
It sticks.
Good morning, junior!
What color is the sky in your little, delusional Walter Mitty world?
nitwit
Blue Jay is beber.
(two can play at that game)
HLP
Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink
You only got four cards, Anti. How do you expect to win anything with that hand? What are you playing?
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Go Fish? I dunno, it’s BlueJay’s fantasy tinkerbell game.
If it’s blackjack I’m screwed!
Wow. Just.. Wow.
How exactly do you argue with someone when their arguments are so profoundly…sick?
Raptor – the two Republicans in my family will likely be casting at least some votes for democrats this fall. Similarly, the Democrat will probably end up voting for a Republican or two. (Not sure yet – haven’t looked at the entire fall ballot yet)
That’s not a lie.
It’s a guess.
And until proven otherwise?
It sticks.
Junior wears pink panties while his mother beats him with a belt. He liked to play with barbies when he was a boy. He feels he is not smart enough to run a successful business, so everyone else should pay his way.
And until proven otherwise?
It sticks.
When Wing-Nuts Attack
After freelance photographer John Quinn insisted on saying the Pledge of Allegiance at the start of an Obama rally at Baldwin-Wallace College, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama led the gathering in saying the pledge.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama came to Baldwin-Wallace College in Berea Tuesday afternoon to talk about his energy policies, as he had earlier in the day in Youngstown.
But before he could delve into the topic, a man in the press photo gallery interrupted him, shouting complaints that the Illinois senator had not started the program with the Pledge of Allegiance. Many in the packed gymnasium murmured and some booed the disruption, but Obama took the heckler in stride and asked him to lead the pledge.
The crowd rose to its feet, Obama placed his hand over his heart and everyone recited the pledge. Obama thanked the man, who was not removed by campaign staff, and returned to his speech.
The man carried a large, professional-style camera, according to the Associated Press, and stood among other photographers on a press platform directly in front of Obama. The man identified himself to the AP as “John Q. Public” and declined to identify his news organization.
Later he was identified at John Quinn of Parma.
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Hey, CONs. 1986 called. It wants its talking points back.
Ben,
My Dad is a die hard liberal. ‘Ceptin he is fiscally conservative. He’ll be votin Libertarian this year. Can’t tell you what motivated him to do that :-b
Project much solie?
How ARE those kids that got taken away from you?
RJR, 42
How ARE those kids that got taken away from you?
Whiffed on that one scooter.
Do your pink panties have ruffles? Granny panties? I can’t imagine that you wear your thong in front of your mother…
Heh HEH!
Like a cornered animal, the cons are.
Let’s help them out with that.
Editors? Ron Suskind is a Pulitzer prize winning author.
If what he says in his new book, “Way of the World” is true?
bush and cheney are going to jail.
Let’s have a thread about this.
Meanwhile, Musharraf is facing impeachment and Pakistan is even more unstable.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26069143
Some people just can’t be good little socialist-
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) – Riot police used tear gas Wednesday to block hundreds of Venezuelans protesting the latest moves by President Hugo Chavez to concentrate his power. The demonstrators said a blacklist of opposition candidates and a series of socialist decrees are destroying what’s left of their democracy.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080807/D92D4QGO0.html
McCain was invited to speak at the annual salute to veterans held at Buffalo Chip. Previous invitees have included Patriot Guard, the American Veterans Traveling Tribute (moving Vietnam Wall), the US Army Golden Knights, B1B flyover, etc.
The podium was what was provided, and he made do. Is that problem?
He was there to honor veterans. His comment about his wife was a JOKE. Don’t you people have any sense of humor at all? Besides, there are different aspects to the Ms Buffalo Chip contest. It is not a topless contest, regardless of what you might have read. I have been there many, many times and speak from first hand knowledge.
“biker gangs”?? Oh get real. The huge majority of attendees at Sturgis are normal type people, who trailer their bikes there. It is not at all like in the late 70’s, early 80’s when it was heavily populated by outlaws. Now it is a gathering of “motorcycle enthusiasts” instead of bikers.
Don’t speak of things you have no knowledge of MH.
McC8nt has a history of very inappropriate ‘jokes’.
Since when is the truth “squirming”? You asked, and I answered why he was there. Is it not possible for you to recognize a JOKE when you hear one? Of course not..you have your hate blinders on and will criticize anything and everything.
PMom, There are many here who don’t know or care what is appropriate. Did you read the thread about the Paris Hilton video? You can get the “take” on the character (lack of!) a few of the posters there!
Ive been to sturgis most of what goes on would probably offend most conservatives( and alot of liberals too) its basically mardi gras on bikes.
“Is it not possible for you to recognize a JOKE when you hear one? ”
Well I recognize that John McCain is a joke.
:lol:
Thanks for that, Monkeyhawk just went up a couple notches in my estimation.
:lol:
I know it ain’t necessary, but I ask you all to compare you know who’s 10:29am post with his 7:16am post.
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Regular
Posted August 7, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink
Ever notice how Libs love and take great pleasure to repeat distasteful words ad nauseum?
re: 7:12a.m.
The way I was raised, one might acknowledge that something bad was said, but to keep repeating the word or words, is indicative of the personality of the person repeating said words.
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Pffft, so much for railing…er, flailing against “said words.” :D
What Ashcroft wants to know details on other people’s sex lives but doesnt what to share his, sounds like a perv to me, and this was a guy who spent thousands of dollars covering a statue cause stone tits bothered him
It seems this would be ANOTHER situation where
IOKIYAR
would be apropos.
Mardi Gras: beads/parades/open containers/public nudity on the streets. Origins in religiois celebrations prior to Shrove Tuesday.
Sturgis: no beads/no parades/quick arrest for open alcohol containers/public nudity. Origins in 1938 with an AMA Gypsy Tour, sponsored by Pappy Hoel, the Indian Dealer in Sturgis.
Not quite the same thing…his analogy was in the aspect of large party with lots of people. Much of the “offensive” behavior is overstated, and depends on the campground/hotel you stay, you are not “exposed” to any of the wild stuff.
My first attendance was 1979 when a lot of what went on in City Park (since closed) would be offensive to just about anyone.
Pelosi’s book sales debacle [#41 on the Non-Fiction Chart] is dramatically overshadowed by the first high profile anti-Obama book, OBAMA NATION, which debuts at #1 on both the BOOKSCAN and the NEW YORK TIMES Bestseller List, with 21,466 copies moved, industry insiders tell DRUDGE.
Hum, what to make of that (?).
Sol, you there?
Your post from the tire thread yesterday is giving me fits, fyi. I’m still ponderin’ it. :D
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SolDevVB
Posted August 6, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink
2) Decrease US demand for oil to the point where we effectively kill the threat to US democracy posed by Islamic terrorism by killing its financial lifeblood.
China and India will pick up the demand we shed.
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Ouch. Good point, and it applies in either the short or long term.
mh…what a class act. (not)
“Hum, what to make of that (?).”
Well, the more thought that people put into the political process, the worse that dems look.
HEHEHEHEHE
I don’t know Joe, I think thqat last post deserves to be sent to you and all your neighbors on a postcard.
Such humor needs to be shared!
I got a program that will print the cards with postage.
I’ll work on it.
Ouch. Good point, and it applies in either the short or long term.
Roger that Pedant. The ‘bad guys’ will still be heavily financed even after we are independent of their oil. The question that pickles my brain;
If we are independent of Mid-East oil, will we still have a presence there? If we no longer have a presence there, will we still screw with their politics? If neither of the above apply will they still hate us and want to kill us?
“Hum, what to make of ” — boxlock
Sheep drooling.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/image/42338
ok, I confess It’s me holding the baby
Another reminder to parents as the school year begins.
Two provisions of the “No Child Left Behind” act give the military access to your child’s name, address, phone number, and who knows what else.
If you wish to protect your child’s privacy, you have to file an opt out form with the school.
If you have filed the form before, be aware that these requests are only honored for one year and you have to re file.
More info at this link…
http://www.militaryfreezone.org/diy
That can’t be edward’s kid. The hair isn’t nearly perfect enough.
Thank you, junior!
It’s always nice to get a reminder from you on the care and feeding of children!
Any one that can’t seem to control his bitterness and hate long enough to buy a taco at a drive through or get a fishing license at WalMart is always the first one I turn to for advice!
My “Comedy Stylings of John Sidney McCain the Third
(for Shrub’s 3rd term) have apparently been deleted.
So much for the the so-called “liberal bias” of WE Blog editors.
Hope you got those postcards printed up, “HLP.”
Most people have no idea of the judges.
I admit to being among most people. How does one learn about the judges and what should I look for there?
Edumacate me, y’all.
Congressman wants to bring up ‘Paris Hilton plan’
Posted: 12:29 PM ET
By CNN Radio’s Lisa Desjardins
WASHINGTON (CNN) — The lines between celebrity and politician blurred Thursday at a Republican news conference, as one congressman began pushing Paris Hilton’s “plan” on energy.
“Let’s bring up the Paris Hilton plan,” goaded Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas.
Burgess and his fellow Republicans are in the fifth day of energy speeches on the House floor, despite the fact that the chamber is closed for August recess. They’re trying to pressure House Speaker Nancy Pelosi into holding a vote on offshore oil drilling.
http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/
BALLOTS CAST – DEMOCRAT …… 12267
Precinct Reported 0251 ,Eligible Precinct 0251
BALLOTS CAST – REPUBLICAN …… 24005
Interesting, isn’t it?
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Raptor, it would be even more interesting if I had the figures for the number of registered voters in each party. Not so much to see what percentage of registered voters voted, but to see how the parties are split. Could it be that there are more registered Rs than Ds? After all, this IS a red state, right? Does anyone have that information and can share? Without being completely informed, any comments posted are sweeping generalizations with little to back them up.
Your enrollment experience may vary.
The form to opt out the military from access to MY son’s information WAS included in his enrollment packet.
But among the dozen or so sign in stations AT enrollment, there was no station providing this form.
Be aware that there is a cut off date to get the form filed. I think it is Sept. 20.
Hope you got those postcards printed up, “HLP.”
I’ll take that as your invitation.
Raptor
Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink
He was there to honor veterans.
No he wasn’t. He was there trying to get votes. McCain doesn’t care about vets, or anybody else for that matter. All he cares about is getting to be president.
Of course that’s when he can remember what he was out there talking to all of those people for in the first place.
nope, mh..not a ‘liberal bias’..more of a decency one. Your poor taste comments were juvenile, vulgar and added nothing of substance except to prove what that childish vulgarities are not tolerated.
There is hope for this blog yet.
Pre, it is difficult for those not dealing with the judges on a regular basis to know much, if anything, about them. The Eagle/Bar Association survey is a little help to the voters, but darned little IMO. One of the requirements for responding to the survey was for the attorney respondents to only “rate” the judges the attorney had appeared before. Some of us don’t litigate, and may only appear before one judge on occasion (or never appear in district court, for those attorneys whose practice is limited to federal court, as an example), so those responding are a limited subset of all attorneys.
I really don’t have a good answer for you, as you can tell.
Predestined…unlike some of the lib posters here, I don’t normally make “sweeping generalizations”. My opinionated comment about the vote was (and I quote)
“Interesting, isn’t it?”
I did include some historical commentary, about the libs going into hyper drive on the Democratic turnout during the caucuses, but I don’t believe I made any ’sweeping generalizations’. If I did, I am sorry and will correct them.
I do not strive to emulate the gross, unsubstantiated claims of people like capn and beber.
xxx… McCain was invited by the organizing committee and spoke on the day designated to honor veterans. Everything a candidate does is campainging for votes, that is what they do–both parties.
I was answering questions about WHY he was there in the first place.
BlueJay,
For someone always bragging about how you give your son the choice on these issues, I guess he will not be getting the choice on joining the military, heh?
Wouldn’t want those big bad nasty mean recruiters contacting him.
He might actually be told the truth about the military instead of what dad tells him.
Sure, “HLP” –
I hope you’ll put the whole thing in context with the c*nt, and trollop, and gorilla rape joke. But I know you won’t.
Still.
I’m eager to get a postcard from you. So would my neighbors and friends. But especially, so would the campaign for John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term).
I know the kind of jokes McC*nt likes to tell and I could really spice up his speech in Minneapolis.
Go for it, “HLP!”
Get “the boy” to help you!
MonkeyHawk,
Don’t you think it is a bit absurd for someone like you who is routinely more vulgar and vile than McCain is accused of being to make such a big deal about it?
Liberal bias of the Editors?
Where is a thread talking about Obama going negative? Everytime McCain does we get a thread about it. Still nothing from the Editors on Obama.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080731143345.htm#
“Sunlight has the greatest potential of any power source to solve the world’s energy problems, said Nocera. In one hour, enough sunlight strikes the Earth to provide the entire planet’s energy needs for one year.”
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Since this discovery doesn’t make the rich richer, expect the CONs to fight it tooth and nail . . .
MIT scientists use photosynthesis model based on plants to create hydrogen from water.
Result is easy, cheap, non-polluting solar-based energy.
I have another question to pose to all you fine folk – and this time it isn’t pertainin’ to opiate pain prescriptions.
If a pregnant teenager decides to give birth – and is adamant that the child should be relinquished for adoption for a compelling number of reasons – and the teenage father is hostile and uncommunicative and refuses his cooperation – what are her options?
I am, of course, looking back on my own life and wondering how I could have proceeded differently. My mother and I would have been in total agreement – neither she nor I would have been able to raise a child – any child. However, is it not my understanding that the father must also give his consent to this adoption? What if he does not? What if he wishes neither to raise and/or support the child nor expend the mental/physical effort to sign a consent form?
I certainly understand his exasperation: Signing a number of forms would, for a time, tear him away from his ever-present dope supply, playing Butt Bong Fiesta with his omnipresent harem of underage bimbettes, and pillowing half the nubility of the Northern Continent. But here’s the icky-awful part: He refused to even broach the subject.
He refused to even speak civilly to me, despite my solitary effort to do so. He was so ugly and hateful and vile that it rendered me utterly moribund. I still remember trying to form the word “pregnant” and being unable to get past the “p” before the parade of filth began. I then drove home, attempted to feign a benign conversation with my unsuspecting mother, bursting into tears, and locking myself in my bedroom.
Ah yes – weren’t the 1970s the decade of “peace, love and flowers?” No, wait – the seventies were the “me” decade. No one epitomized this self-absorption more than my impregnator.
My point is this, though: What would I have done had this waste of sperm and egg failed to rouse himself from his pre-alcoholic puerility and/or post-coital torpor and done the right thing? Certainly, he did not want the child. To be sure, he didn’t want to be bothered with this added burden on his already over-burdened life. But just out of meanness, I can see him saying, “Nah! I ain’t signin’ that (expletive) thing! It’s yer own fault! Ya didn’t stop me! Yer the female! Second sex! Cheaper cut!”
And so on and so forth.
Millions of women and young girls have abortions because they cannot bear the unendurable. It is not my place to say who was right and who was wrong. But in my case, I believe a whole lot of us were wrong 33 years ago. It was my idiocy to place 100% of my heart with this utterly unsuitable individual. It was his mistake to behave like something Bob Guccione deposited in the men’s room of a seedy strip club early in 1956.
But had I required his permission to proceed so long ago, what would I have done?
“Wouldn’t want those big bad nasty mean recruiters contacting him.”
Before he is 18 and without my advice and consent?
No.
The prospective adopting parents would have filed a Petition for Adoption in the District Court (assuming this was after court unification), and the matter would have proceeded to hearing before the judge handling the case. The impregnator would have his opportunity to produce evidence in court as to why he would not consent to the adoption, and why he opposed it. Presuming he would not have appeared, it is likely the court would have granted the adoption on a default basis. If he did appear, but failed to convince the court by clear and competent evidence that the proposed adoption was not in the best interests of the child, the court would likely have granted the adoption.
All obtaining the consent from the father does is: 1) prove he was notified of the proceeding; 2) that he does not contest it. Failure to consent allows the father to show the court why the adoption should not be granted, and why he should be granted custody of the child.
Pre, I am as lost as you about the judges, seems many of us might be. I read the guide Vaughn mentioned, I ask friends and neighbors, but I also employ another litmus test. A few blocks away on a route my dog and I take frequently on walks is a house that has a permanent “shrine” to the occupants desire to overturn roe v wade. These same occupants ALWAYS have many campaign signs in their yard. I take note and make sure I don’t vote for one represented there — ESPECIALLY judges!
The boy, “Nathaniel” all of a sudden arrives with –
“Don’t you think it is a bit absurd for someone like you who is routinely more vulgar and vile than McCain is accused of being to make such a big deal about it?”
Absurd?
Of course it’s absurd.
(Although I find it interesting that “HLP” doesn’t respond but, instead, calls his “boy” to come to his defense.)
I think it’s absurd John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) thout it politically expedient to offer his
trllopwife up for a topless “beauty” contest where talent points are awarded for felating a banana and showing off her boobs. (Albeit, her biggest boob was speaking at to the bikers at the time.)Of course it’s absurd that McC*nt got a whole week’s worth of media coverage by denigrating the concept of practical, real-world actions (i.e., everyone maintaining proper tire pressure) which could save more oil than all off-shore drilling might produce. And then, McBush has to admit that Obama was right in the first place. Yeah, that’s absurd.
laissez les bons temps rouler
Quit typing in German Farmie. Makes my eyes hurt.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink
laissez les bons temps rouler
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WHAT??? You know I don’t speak spanish!
“John Edwards’ reluctance to refute allegations that he had an affair and child with his former videographer could jeopardize his potential role as a Democratic National Convention speaker and surrogate for his party’s presumptive nominee.”
“If he wants to have a role in the convention or any other significant role in the Obama campaign or a potential Obama administration, I think he has to credibly respond to it,” Don Fowler, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told FOXNews.com.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/07/edwards-party-role-clouded-by-allegations/
I know how you Libs love Fox.
Oh come on you guys. It’s Cajun for “let the good times roll” the unofficial state motto for Looooosiana and Mardi Gras.
And it sounds like it should be for Sturgis too!
There IS no opt out form for this.
Parents of middle school age kids should be aware of a course called “leadership”.
At least in USD 259, “leadership” is actually the Junior ROTC, a military recruitment tool.
My son was invited to take “leadership” when he was 10 or 11.
I was not informed or consulted.
Be aware and informed as to your middle school child’s course enrollment. At this age, they are trusted to make some of their own decisions.
They and their parents should be well informed in their choices.
Heheheheh
“a topless “beauty” contest where talent points are awarded for felating a banana and showing off her boobs:
That’s what prompted me to say laissez les bons temps rouler.
indeed
KFG, how do you say that in Coon Ass?
That IS coon ass, not real French!
Kinda like low German
And the Russian-Low German we speak out here is kinda like Spanglish.
Oy!
Just thought I’d throw that into the multicultural pot!
“Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to this resolution, which is yet another meaningless but provocative condemnation of China. It is this kind of jingoism that has led to such a low opinion of the United States abroad. Certainly I do not condone human rights abuses, wherever they may occur, but as Members of the U.S. House of Representatives we have no authority over the Chinese government. It is our Constitutional responsibility to deal with abuses in our own country or those created abroad by our own foreign policies. Yet we are not debating a bill to close Guantanamo, where abuses have been documented. We are not debating a bill to withdraw from Iraq , where scores of innocents have been killed, injured, and abused due to our unprovoked attack on that country. We are not debating a bill to reverse the odious FISA bill passed recently which will result in extreme abuses of Americans by gutting the Fourth Amendment.”
By… Guess who
For you unfamiliar folk, Coon Ass is not a racial slur- it is like a swamp redneck or backwoods folk.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted August 7, 2008 at 1:26 pm | Permalink
That IS coon ass, not real French!
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I never could make out what the hell language it was during my time is southern LA.
And to complete his statement
“I do find it ironic that this resolution “calls on the Government of the People’s Republic of China to begin earnest negotiations, without preconditions, directly with His Holiness the Dalai Lama or his representatives.” For years US policy has been that no meeting or negotiation could take place with Iran until certain preconditions are met by Iran . Among these is a demand that Iran cease uranium enrichment, which Iran has the right to do under the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty. It is little wonder why some claim that resolutions like this are hypocritical.
Instead of lecturing China, where I have no doubt there are problems as there are everywhere, I would suggest that we turn our attention to the very real threats in a United States where our civil liberties and human rights are being eroded on a steady basis. The Bible cautions against pointing out the speck in a neighbor’s eye while ignoring the log in one’s own. I suggest we contemplate this sound advice before bringing up such ill-conceived resolutions in the future.”
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=270
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges
Our withdraw will be based on political considerations on the ground as the impact the presidential race.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080807/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_us_bases_2
I got a call from a Major in the Air Force once who spelled his name just like mine. He said he was a “coon ass” from Louisiana which took me aback because I never heard of the term before. He sort of explained the term to me.
Anyway, we weren’t related as his ancestors came from the North Carolina line and mine from the Pennsylvania line. Although both came from the Northern Ireland line in Raphoe County or parish, don’t remember now.
Rothluric, County Cork.
It is Charleville now. I prefer the traditional name.
“ANTI” shares –
“I never could make out what the hell language it was during my time is southern LA.”
Mostly its a word-for-word translation from French to English, but since French is a romance language the verbs and nouns, subjects and objects, adjectives and adverbs get juxtaposed in word-for-word translations. Listen to old Justin Wilson bits, for example. A simple question like (and I don’t know enough French to know if this is a good example, merely a f’rinstance), the simple question, “What is it?” becomes something like “What it is?”
During my years on the radio in Beaumont, I got to know a bunch of Cajuns. An amazing sub-culture in the American mix. And you’ve never eaten such good food.
Vox Clamantis
Ah Raphoe Parish, County Donegal. Took awhile for the brain cells to kick in.
And you’ve never eaten such good food.
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Well, I sure as hell didn’t loose any weight while I was down there! But I haven’t been able to eat Kansas seafood since….
Vox Clamantis
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Take penicillin, that should clear it up.
lose/loose
FF brings up a whole lot of good points in the requirement of the sperm donor and adoption. For one, the guy may not want to even acknowledge the incident, it could hurt something of his. For second, it puts the guy in a position of power over the woman. If I had chose adoption, and my ex chose to contest the adoption, I would feel so guilty for leaving the child with him that I’d feel obligated to care for the child myself. Which is what happened anyway, but that was MY choice. I wasn’t coerced into it. Another thing is some want a way to tie themselves to the woman forever.. And I do realize that sometimes women do that too. But by in large it is the woman who gets stuck with all the responsiblity. And the man can always find a way to weasel out of it.
Converting electricity into hydrogen using this much more efficient method would also be the answer to GMC’s objections about storing wind power.
In fact, this process looks to be so efficient, it would enable homeowners to disconnect from the grid and generate their own power with a fuel cell.
That picture is absurd of ‘Edwards’ and ‘his love child’ Please. Those are professional photographers and THIS was the best they could do? Whatever.
And yet, we have a settlement and we’re supposed to just drop it over a stalking case on another thread.
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CapnAmerica
Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:12 pm | Permalink
Converting electricity into hydrogen using this much more efficient method would also be the answer to GMC’s objections about storing wind power.
In fact, this process looks to be so efficient, it would enable homeowners to disconnect from the grid and generate their own power with a fuel cell.
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Come on Capn., we went through this all the other day. There is nothing new here. No great way to divorce from the grid.
This ’scientist’ at MIT got a 10 million dollar grant and all we get is this little beaker with bubbles.
Political_mama
Posted August 7, 2008 at 2:13 pm | Permalink
That picture is absurd of ‘Edwards’ and ‘his love child’ Please. Those are professional photographers and THIS was the best they could do? Whatever.
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Why don’t you get the new edition of the Enquirer? I don’t think the ‘professional photographers’ got the good barrister to pose for the picture. It was probably taken through a hole in the wall.
“I know how you Libs love Fox.” — anti
I know how you Cons love lies.
“Political_mama” notes –
“That picture is absurd of ‘Edwards’ and ‘his love child’ Please. Those are professional photographers and THIS was the best they could do?”
Oh, yeah.
Next you’re gonna tell me that picture of Marilyn Monroe and Elvis living together in an Airstream parked at a trailer park outside Muncie (as published in World News Weekly) was fake.
I called my army friend a “ragin cajun’ once, about got into a fight because of it. Seems cajun is an offensive word.
McSame is getting desperate…blog his talking points and win prizes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080603589.html
I think Mccain hates boeing so much, because they never buit a plane that was mccain proof!
beber, is Don Fowler, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee a liar?
You know the Navy doesn’t have much faith in your flying abilities when they want to send you to Six Flags Over Texas for a refresher course!
Osama’s driver, convicted of being Osama’s driver, gets 5.5 yr. prison term. Wonder if he’ll get credit for time served?
Bet he’d find a way to even crash that. Or, he’d jump out and break his arms.
Hidden, a 3.5 Million Trash Heap Lies in the Ocean
The Great Pacific Garbage Dump Stretches From California to China
By DARCY BONFILS and IMAEYEN IBANGA
Aug. 6, 2008 —
The world’s largest trash dump doesn’t sit on some barren field outside an urban center. It resides thousands of miles from any land in the Pacific Ocean.
Bottle caps, soap bottles, laundry baskets and shards of plastic are just a few things that float in the ocean’s vastness. Known as the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, the “dump” is composed mainly of plastic, which isn’t biodegradable.
Instead, the plastic breaks down into smaller and smaller pieces in the patch that extends thousands of miles, from California’s coast to China.
Charles Moore, who discovered the trash heap by accident in 1997 when he was sailing the Pacific, collects samples of the growing garbage bin. Some of his samples have contained six times more plastic than plankton.
“It is like a minestrone and … a lot of the vegetables are plastic,” said Moore, who stages regular trips to the garbage patch for research.
A series of currents in the Pacific Ocean create a circular effect that pulls debris from North America, Asia and the Hawaiian Islands into a toxic stew. Then it shoots it into a graveyard of 3.5 million tons of trash that’s 80 percent plastic.
Moore said he has noticed an alarming trend. The quantities have increased dramatically more than doubling in five years. And Moore said there is no reason to believe the trend will slow.
I have no idea, Anti, but you are.
Does mccain know there’s no moratorium other than at the state level against building nuclear reactor plants?
Waiting for him to start chanting Nuke Plant Right Here! Right Now! at his little town hall meetings.
Am not.
Last reactor built in arizona was in 1971, maybe he ought to sell the idea to his home state before taking it National!
R 2
Am not.
(Note to Chas, Beber and I take up less room to argue than you and (place name here).)
“But had I required his permission to proceed so long ago, what would I have done?”
Give the bastard to him:-)
More reason to be skeptical of Pickens’ plan?
Simply put, Pickens’ pitch is “embrace wind power to help break our ‘addiction’ to foreign oil.” There is, however, another intriguing component to Pickens’ plan that goes unmentioned in his TV commercials, media interviews and web site — water rights, which he owns more of than any other American.
Pickens hopes that his recent $100 million investment in 200,000 acres worth of groundwater rights in Roberts County, Texas, located over the Ogallala Aquifer, will earn him $1 billion. But there’s more to earning such a profit than simply acquiring the water. Rights-of-way must be purchased to install pipelines, and opposition from anti-development environmental groups must be overcome. Here’s where it gets interesting, according to information compiled by the Water Research Group, a small grassroots group focusing on local water issues in Texas.
Purchasing rights-of-way is often expensive and time-consuming — and what if landowners won’t sell? While private entities may be frustrated, governments can exercise eminent domain to compel sales. This is Pickens’ route of choice. But wait, you say, Pickens is not a government entity. How can he use eminent domain? Are you sitting down?
At Pickens’ behest, the Texas legislature changed state law to allow the two residents of an 8-acre parcel of land in Roberts County to vote to create a municipal water district, a government agency with eminent domain powers. Who were the voters? They were Pickens’ wife and the manager of Pickens’ nearby ranch. And who sits on the board of directors of this water district? They are the parcel’s three other non-resident landowners, all Pickens’ employees.
http://www.junkscience.com/ByTheJunkman/20080731.html
If true, well, it puts the caring Mr. Pickens in a whole new light, huh?
Ditto MonkeyHawk on Bmt/Pt Arthur/Orange. The Golden Triangle. Hehehehheh. Stinky, but Golden none the less.
Carlo’s? Sartins? Patrizi’s? Mouton’s? The Boondocks? And… Don’s Seafood? Oof, what good food. There was a great seafood place down by Neaderland too, however, I’ve forgotten the name. But not the Fisherman’s Platter.
“Seems cajun is an offensive word.”
Only if you think yer Creole. Or you are a McFadden or Brown.
They call themselves Coon Ass, me cher.
Hehehehehehehehe! I loved that place.
Oh, and where’s Hank to weigh in on this? No pun intended on the weigh. I think he lived down there around the same time we did.
For MrC: http://www.kansas.com/sports/updates/story/486971.html
Wonder what the buyout cost will be if things don’t go as hoped?
Is this some big news, that someone may have had a love affair?
Does anyone know the lead time for building a nuclear plant?
Does anyone know the lead time for building a wind turbine plant?
I’ve worked so hard today and don’t have the energy to Google it….
…and Condi has a crush on Denzel?
I wonder what her girlfriend will have to say about that? I guess she tolerates Condi’s crush on bush, so, maybe they have an open thing…
“ksfarmgrrl” –
Last I heard, Sartin’s was blown away by a hurricane. Can’t remember which one and I dunno of they rebuilt or relocated or just gave it up.
The barbequed crabs, though… as close as you can get to heaven while standing on dry land.
There was a mom-and-pop Italian restaurant in Port Arthur just down the street from Janis Joplin’s girlhood home (a local Baptist church eventually bought it just so they could bulldoze it). It was one of those wonderful mom-and-pop places where, depending on the day, the sauce might turn up sweeter or spicier than the last time you were there. And the best Mexican food in the world was served by Mendoza’s Auto Repair and Lunch.
I don’t think I ever ate Cajun food there in a restaurant, though. It was only home-cookin’. I once asked a little old Cajun lady if I could have her recipe for gumbo. She gave me a look as if I’d asked her permission to ravage her granddaughter. (The more I think of it, it might have been the look she’d given if I’d asked to rape her grandson.)
;^)
I just want to point out that when one goes on deployment it is longer than 143 days (usually 181 days); yet, no one suggests that a division officer (usually an Ensign) is ready to be the Commanding Officer (CO). In fact, it takes about another 15 years (5,475 days) before en Ensign is considered experienced enough to be a CO.
However, 143 days in the Senate makes Obama ready to be Commander-in-Chief?
Nurses for Newborns is a volunteer, non-profit organization that provides free home nursing care and necessities for teen moms, the mentally or physically disabled mothers, infants that are sick, and general population families in need or lacking prenatal care. It is cutting infant mortality and improving infant health and safety in Missouri and Tennessee, with particular successes among pregnant girls who have been abused, threatened, suicidal, or otherwise in crisis.
Headquarters is 7259 Lansdowne, Suite 100, St. Louis, MO 63119; Phone: (314) 544-3433; Toll-Free: 1-800-45BIRTH. Contact Claire Devoto, email claire.devoto@nfnf.org .
We might expect intense opposition from Planned Parenthood, perhaps as far as hurling accusations of unlicensed care and mismanaged finances, if such a benevolent charity should expand operations into Kansas, since Nurses for Newborns prevents some profitable abortions, and the reduction of infant mortality opposes Planned Parenthood’s goal of reducing the black population.
See page
http://www.nfnf.org/index.php
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“The evidence is undeniable. Even a 20-week foetus is likely to feel pain, and excruciating pain.”
. . . Kanwaljeet Anand, a pediatrician and fetal pain specialist at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, the top American expert on the subject of fetal pain, in an interview with the “Telegraph of India” newspaper
[Abortion advocates argue that babies who experience the pain of mangling, dismembering, poisoning, or beheading may not regard the sensation as unpleasant. In a saline abortion, a late-term baby may thrash in agony for one to three hours as the skin is scalded off, before death follows the saline injection into the womb.]
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Rev. Pat Mahoney, Brandi Swindell, and Michael McMonagle were arrested and forcibly dragged away from Tiananmen Square Thursday as they knelt in prayer outside the Mao Tse Tung Mausoleum. The group was in Bejing speaking out against China’s forced abortion policies, religious persecution, and other human rights abuses. Plain clothed policemen were filmed dragging Rev. Mahoney and Ms. Swindell by the arms as other men, presumed to be additional plain clothed officers, attempted to block cameras with umbrellas.
http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/485850.html
This is a surprising jury verdict. Maybe the justice system is not as broken down as many had thought.
Congressional Budget Office reports that the liberal plan, and Dr Gore’s plan to sell carbon credits – will hurt the poor most of all:
“Regardless of how the allowances were distributed, most of the cost of meeting a cap on CO2 emissions would be borne by consumers, who would face persistently higher prices for products such as electricity and gasoline. Those
price increases would be regressive in that poorer households would bear a larger burden relative to their income than wealthier households would. In addition, workers
and investors in parts of the energy sector—such as the coal industry—and in various energy-intensive industries would be likely to experience losses as the economy adjusted to the emission cap and production of those
industries’ goods declined. Such losses would probably be limited to current workers and investors. Job losses in those industries would be likely to impose a fairly large burden on a relatively small number of working class households”
And there is no evidence carbon credits will end global warming. But the poor will pay the most.
CBO APRIL 25, 2007
I wonder if Al Gore sent her an ‘I’m sorry you didn’t win card’….nah, not big Al.
Irena Sandler…
Recently a 98 year old woman named Irena Sandler died.
During WWII , Irena, got permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer specialist. What she did was amazing…saving 2500 Jewish children from certain death in the Warsaw ghetto during World War II
Watch the video …
Irena was up for the Nobel Prize…but it went to Al Gore instead for his movie on Global Warming …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVw1PANUcdg
“…Regardless of how the allowances were distributed, most of the cost of meeting a cap on CO2 emissions would be borne by consumers, who would face persistently higher prices for products such as electricity and gasoline…”
Of course, they don’t point out that prices may be pushed higher, but they will still be much lower than the prices will be if/when there is a major disruption to global climate patterns.
I am not saying carbon credits will prevent mass global climate change. I don’t think it does nearly enough to make a difference. However, articles like this make people scared to advocate trying to make a difference.
Are carbon credits a panacea to global climate change – no way. Will they cost money – yes, for everyone. But it is doing something that moves us in the right direction.
You wouldn’t be b.s. us would you:
The Nobel Organization does not officially name the nominees for any of the Nobel prizes, and the nominees will not be announced nor disclosed for fifty years. Usually, nominees are announced by those that have nominated individuals and organizations for the one million dollar prize. Other nominees that have been leaked include the Vietnamese Monk Thich Quang Do, who is currently under house arrest in Vietnam for his comments decrying human rights abuses. Another named nominee is Britain-based charity, Sail Training International, which helps youth through teaching them to sail.
“Boxlock
Posted August 7, 2008 at 5:35 pm | Permalink
I wonder if Al Gore sent her an ‘I’m sorry you didn’t win card’….nah, not big Al.
Irena Sandler…
…”
Ah, a Glenn Beck clip. Now your posts make much more sense…
lol, Glenn Beck, lol
Phantom,
I don’t think a person can nominate themselves, so…
Will you nominate me next year for my WeBlog posts spreading democracy to uneducated midwestern Republicans?
“You wouldn’t be b.s. us would you:”
Irena Sendler
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp
Claim: Irena Sendler, a candidate for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, is credited with saving 2,500 Polish Jews from the Holocaust.
Status: True.
Example: [Collected via e-mail, June 2008]
There recently was a death of a 98 year old lady named Irena.
During WWII, Iliana, got permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer specialist.
She had an ulterior motive…
She KNEW what the Nazi’s plans were for the Jews, (being German).
Iliana smuggled infants out in the bottom of her tool box she carried, and she carried in the back of her truck a Burlap sack, (for larger kids).
She also had a dog in the back, that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in, and out of the ghetto.
The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do with the dog, and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.
During her time and course of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants.
She was caught, and the Nazi’s broke both her legs, and arms, and beat her severely.
Iliana kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out, and kept them in a glass jar, buried under a tree in her back yard.
After the war, she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it, and reunited the family.
Most of course had been gassed.
Those kids she helped got placed into foster family homes, or adopted.
Last year Iliana was up for the Nobel Peace Prize….
She LOST.
Al Gore won, for a slide show on Global Warming.
Check it out: http://www.irenasendler.org
snopes.com: Irena Sendler •••
Irena Sendler, a candidate for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, is credited with saving 2,500 Polish Jews from the Holocaust.
…Home –> Politics –> War/Anti-War –> Irena Sendler Irena Sendler Claim: Irena Sendler, a candidate for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, is credited…
…There recently was a death of a 98 year old lady named Irena. During WWII, Iliana, got permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer…
…Al Gore won, for a slide show on Global Warming. Check it out: http://www.irenasendler.org Origins: On 12 May 2008, Irena Sendlerowa (commonly known as…
Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:33:14 GMT http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp
“But it is doing something that moves us in the right direction.”
Please provide references. Show me where it is proven carbon credits will stop GW, or even reduce it signficantly. So how do you KNOW it is a step in the right direction?
Is it possible, you have heart which has moved to such a point that you are willing to bleed for a “feel good” program – that will do nothing to stop GW, but cost poor people the most?
“Are carbon credits a panacea to global climate change – no way. Will they cost money – yes, for everyone. But it is doing something that moves us in the right direction.”
Dumb….who cares if we are doing something that only moves us in the right direction if we don’t get where we need to be. All the pain and cost without the accomplishment of what’s needed.
Typical lib philosophy, do it because it makes us feel better even though it actually doesn’t accomplish anything.
Hey good on Iliana.
She saved a LOT of kids.
That’s great.
But up against addressing global warming?
It just falls kinda short.
And just how is it Al Gore’s fault that the Nobel people accordingly chose him?
You deniers are REALLY starting to reach for something to whine about.
Al Gore is a self-serving fat ass hypocrite!
Kind of like I have you pictured too BlueJay.
“Boxlock
Posted August 7, 2008 at 6:03 pm | Permalink
“who cares if we are doing something that only moves us in the right direction if we don’t get where we need to be. All the pain and cost without the accomplishment of what’s needed.”
So your preference would be that no one do anything until the problem can be solved in by one act? Isn’t it usually easier and more effiecient to solve a big problem by breaking it down into smaller problems that can be addressed more easily?
I would like to come up with a way to sell some sort of global warming futures contract.
I would love to see if people like Boxlock would put their money where there mouths are.
You don’t want to know how I picture you Boxy.
Hey while we are feeling bad for Iliana Sendler?
Let’s not forget to mention.
Thanks to lunatic Mark Levin?
The good Ilian Sendler was ALSO up against Rush Limbaugh for the Nobel Prize.
This noble woman had to share the honor of nomination with a man who epitomizes the slime of humanity.
“The Obama Spend-o-Rama” proposes funding 111 of the 188 spending proposals put out so far during Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) presidential campaign. There are another 77 proposals with unknown cost estimates that will even add billions MORE to this number.
Some of the numbers around the federal budget are incomprehensibly large. How do you wrap your mind around a 5-year cost:
• This new spending, if enacted, would represent an almost 10% increase over the President’s FY 2009 budget.
• This $300 billion spending proposal would cost more than 42 states’ budgets combined (general fund expenditures).
• It is more than the United States spent last year on imported oil ($294 billion net).
• It is more than 60% larger than any one-year federal spending increase, ever.
An initial draft of the Amendment which was obtained by HUMAN EVENTS shows its purpose of “raisi(ng) taxes by an unprecedented $1.4 trillion for the purpose of fully funding 111 new or expanded federal spending programs” and, referencing S. Con. Res. 70, the Fiscal Year 2009 budget proposal, lists 111 items in the format of “On page 11, line 4, increase the amount by $5,120,000,000.” of $1.4 trillion?
Obama’s promise to raise taxes just on the Democrats’ “attractive target” of people earning over $250,000, will only generate $225 billion over 5 years, far short of the $1.4 trillion which Obama’s proposed programs (actually only 60% of them) would saddle taxpayers with during that same time frame.
If Obama wanted to raise taxes on only the top 1% (earning over $365,000) to fund his plans, those citizens’ tax bills would have to rise by over $40,000 annually, an increase of 57%. Given the impossibility of that scenario, even under complete Democratic control of government, the tax hikes would have to trickle down to the American middle class.
“So if Congress decides to widen the pool of taxpayers footing the bill, it would have to raise taxes on the top 5% by 38%; or the top 10% by 32%; or the top 25% by 26%; or the top 50% of taxpayers by 23%. The top 50% of American taxpayers, who already pay 96.9% of all federal income taxes, are those who earn $31,000 (AGI) or more.
“To translate this point into language everyone can understand: IF YOU HAVE AN INcome of $104,000 OR MORE, THE PLAN WILL CAUSE YOUR TAX BILL TO GO UP AT LEAST AN ADDITIONAL $5,300 a year;
IF YOU HAVE AN INCOME OF $62,000 or more, the plan will cause YOUR TAX BILL WILL GO UP AT LEAST $2,300 a year. This is on top of the $2,300 increase already assumed by the failure to extend current tax policy.”
Obama claims to want to “balance the budget and stop spending the Social Security Surplus.” Combining that laudable goal with Obama’s massive new spending would cause the tax bills of the average taxpayer earning $62,000 to rise $5,300, or 61%. For taxpayers earning $104,000, the increase would be over $12,000, or 74%, and for the top 1%, earning over $365,000, “their income tax bill rise by an astounding $93,500 (132%)!”
It is not only individuals would suffer under the Obama Spend-o-rama: “If you want economic growth in this country, it comes out of the small business sector. And when you raise their taxes markedly, it’s going to markedly have an adverse effect on the economy.” This is on top of the $4,100 tax increase which small businesses will face when the Democratic congress refuses to renew the Bush tax cuts.
This is not simply a hypothetical discussion; the current debate is about the 2009 budget, the first year of the next president’s administration. It is therefore important (and good politics) to SHOW THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THE UGLY TRUTH AND DETAILS of Obama’s pretty talk.
That leaves Obama either having to defend the indefensible, or backing away from the “progressive” agenda which is much of the basis of his support from naïve liberals, primarily young or rich.”
We cannot afford this “change”.
HDChaplainCorps
Posted August 7, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
“…Please provide references. Show me where it is proven carbon credits will stop GW, or even reduce it signficantly.”
I never claimed either. In fact, I said “I don’t think it does nearly enough to make a difference.”
“…So how do you KNOW it is a step in the right direction?”
Global warming is cause in large part by increased atmospheric greenhouse gases.
Carbon Dioxide is one of the most abundant greenhouse gases.
Burning fossil fuels emits carbon dioxide.
If there are regulations put on the amount of carbon dioxide released from burning fossil fuels, then less carbon dioxide will be released by burning fossile fuels.
Why can’t we get a good candidate who is both a fiscal conservative and social liberal to run.
Damn
“Carbon Dioxide is one of the most abundant greenhouse gases.
Burning fossil fuels emits carbon dioxide.
If there are regulations put on the amount of carbon dioxide released from burning fossil fuels”
Sorry, the logic you expressed is well-known. But you have no proof carbon credits will really reduce WORLD emissions of just ONE GW contributor. You also have no way of knowing it will stop GW.
And all those poor Americans – who can barely make ends meet TODAY, due to the high energy bills – will be even worse off.
Specific programs Obama referred to; The “broad-based, middle-class tax cut” he spoke about referred to his “Making Work Pay” tax credit, plus a new income-tax exemption for seniors making under $50,000, his campaign said. Those together would cost about $80-billion a year, according to both the Obama campaign and the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. But Obama’s plan calls for the tax cuts to be extended for everyone who makes less than $250,000.
The “foreclosure prevention fund” would be a one-time cost of $10-billion, the campaign said.
The health care plan, under which all Americans would be able to buy coverage similar to what members of Congress get, will cost some $50-billion to $65-billion per year, the campaign said. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama released a new $18 billion education plan (paid for by reducing NASA’s budget), stabilizing Social Security would cost, because both parties would have to hash out a plan to do soThe Social Security fix might be funded by more payroll taxes on high-earners, Obama has said.
His plan to help workers save is about a $20-billion-a-year program of employer mandates and tax credits. Overall, his tax plan would decrease revenue by $2.7-trillion over the next 10 years, according to the Tax Policy Center analysis.
We cannot afford this kind of “change”.
“Why can’t we get a good candidate who is both a fiscal conservative and social liberal to run.”
An oxymoron?
Hee hee heeeee MonkeyHawk.
Yeah, I heard Sartin’s was blown away. I think they rebuilt, but like most encores, it wasnt the same. Dont know the status now. And Patrizi’s was closed last I heard. I havent been to good ol’ Bmt for ten years.
I do know the Italian place in Pt. Arthur, but I heard they put a bbq joint there. Maybe bulldozed it later, I dunno. Many people dont realize how many Italians settled there, and how FAB the Italian food is in the area. That’s why I mentioned Carlo’s. I just loved their whole Italian sausage and spaghetti. And their duck gumbo, with roux dark as midnight, available everyday, but on special on Wednesdays.
And I think it was Mouton’s that did the traditonal links. The kind you squeeze out on a piece of white trash white bread, with sauce optional. Damn good bbq there. Especially on Washington street, just pick a place.
Little known secret, I can make gumbo like a real coon ass. And I serve it with the traditional tater salad.
All the more reason for you and the Mrs. to come visit. You wont get this gumbo outside La. or the Golden Triangle. Roux by the cocoa box. Set the cocoa box next to the pot. When the roux breaks with a shine and it is the same color as the cocoa, it’s done and you can add the onions.
Oh yeah, and The Boondocks, on Jap Road, closed too. The best whole catfish in the world, and hush puppies to die for. If you didnt finish your meal, and few could, you could go outside and toss leftovers to the alligators in the bayou below. They were like pets. Hehehehe. What a place!
Hey NEW brian, are you the old brian we knew and loved? The one who was from, what was it, New England? heheheeheh!
HDChaplainCorps
Posted August 7, 2008 at 6:27 pm | Permalink
“But you have no proof carbon credits will really reduce WORLD emissions of just ONE GW contributor. You also have no way of knowing it will stop GW.”
If we had proof it would not be science now would it? You know science – review evidence, make a hypothesis about how to do something, then test it.
Hi ksfarmgrrl,
I used to post under the ‘brian’ moniker. It has been a few months.
I may be the poster you knew, I don’t know about loved though :)
(Wichita here, I’ve been to New England though)
“HDChaplainCorps
Posted August 7, 2008 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
“Why can’t we get a good candidate who is both a fiscal conservative and social liberal to run.”
An oxymoron?”
Obviously not a non-existent oxymoron or I would be merely a wonderful figment of your imagination.
“I would like to come up with a way to sell some sort of global warming futures contract.
I would love to see if people like Boxlock would put their money where there mouths are.”–nuevo
nuevo,
You better believe I would, ha, just give me the chance. But neither of us, our children or our grandkids, will EVER have enough data to result in a payoff one way or the other.
I’m not even saying the Earth isn’t warming, though in fact it isn’t lately, but cooling instead, but we’ll ignore that little fact for now as it’s counter productive to YOUR argument (see what a nice guy I am).
What I’m saying is the puny efforts of ‘Al Gore and Company’ are totally ineffective and will accomplish nothing of significance with respect to climate but instead raise living costs and greatly increase misery on folks. Especially the ones just getting by now, the ones most DemLibs say they are out to help. Which by the way is bull sh1t. It is arrogant of people to think they are going to change the long term climate of the Earth, short of such drastic measures that much of Earth’s population would not survive, and I’m not sure, long term, man could do it regardless of what he does.
Yeah, wise guy…you form your futures investment company, but be sure you have someone else hold something back to care for you after you’ve lost everything.
Sigh… The funds collected through Carbon Credits go to pay for installations of energy efficient or emission neutral projects that otherwise would have used old fossil fuel technology.
Installing, say solar panels instead of a diesel generator, decreases greenhouse gases, and will lessen the warming…
Uh oh. Sounds like grmie. Didnt she say she had kids in The Springs?
“A Librarian Pwnd a Parent Who Objects to “Uncle Bobby’s Wedding
Here’s what I understand to be your concern, based on your writings. First, you believe that “the book is specifically designed to normalize gay marriage and is targeted toward the 2-7 year old age group.” Your second key concern is that you “find it inappropriate that this type of literature is available to this age group.” You cite your discussion with your daughter, and commented, “This was not the type of conversation I thought I would be having with my seven year old in the nightly bedtime routine.”
Finally, you state your strong belief, first, “in America and the beliefs of our founding fathers,” and second, that “marriage is a covenant between a man and a woman as stated in the Webster’s dictionary and also in the Bible.”
Your second issue is a little trickier. You say that the book is inappropriate, and I infer that your reason is the topic itself: gay marriage. I think a lot of adults imagine that what defines a children’s book is the subject. But that’s not the case. Children’s books deal with anything and everything. There are children’s books about death (even suicide), adult alcoholism, family violence, and more. Even the most common fairy tales have their grim side: the father and stepmother of Hansel and Gretel, facing hunger and poverty, take the children into the woods, and abandon them to die! Little Red Riding Hood (in the original version, anyhow) was eaten by the wolf along with granny. There’s a fascinating book about this, by the bye, called “The Uses of Enchantment: the Meaning and Importance of Fairy Tales,” by psychologist Bruno Bettelheim. His thesis is that both the purpose and power of children’s literature is to help young people begin to make sense of the world. There is a lot out there that is confusing, or faintly threatening, and even dangerous in the world. Stories help children name their fears, understand them, work out strategies for dealing with life. In Hansel and Gretel, children learn that cleverness and mutual support might help you to escape bad situations. In Little Red Riding Hood, they learn not to talk to big bad strangers. Of course, not all children’s books deal with “difficult issues,” maybe not even most of them. But it’s not unusual.
<snip
Your third point, about the founders’ vision of America, is something that has been a matter of keen interest to me most of my adult life. In fact, I even wrote a book about it, where I went back and read the founders’ early writings about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. What a fascinating time to be alive! What astonishing minds! Here’s what I learned: our whole system of government was based on the idea that the purpose of the state was to preserve individual liberties, not to dictate them. The founders uniformly despised many practices in England that compromised matters of individual conscience by restricting freedom of speech. Freedom of speech – the right to talk, write, publish, discuss – was so important to the founders that it was the first amendment to the Constitution – and without it, the Constitution never would have been ratified.
http://jaslarue.blogspot.com/2008/07/uncle-bobbys-weddi…
Heh. The brian I knew and loved, when asked about gender or sexual orientation used to say “I’m from….” I can remember where, it was an inside joke.
Then later there were two brians. The brian I knew and loved was the original brian.
I sure hope it’s you!
“The funds collected through Carbon Credits go to pay..”
My you are a dreamer. Do you suppose that will be like Social Security withholding is going into the Social Security Trust Fund – or the General Fund.
You really don’t know do you?
From WIkipedia:
Kyoto Protocol establishes the Clean Development Mechanism as a Flexible Mechanism by which capped entities could develop real, measurable, permanent emissions reductions voluntarily in sectors outside the cap.
This process has evolved as the concept of a carbon project has been refined over the past 10 years.
The first step in determining whether or not a carbon project has legitimately led to the reduction of real, measurable, permanent emissions is understanding the CDM methodology process.
This is the process by which project sponsors submit, through a Designated Operational Entity (DOE), their concepts for emissions reduction creation. The CDM Executive Board, with the CDM Methodology Panel and their expert advisors, review each project and decide how and if they do indeed result in reductions that are additional.
Gumbo? WHOA!!! Gumbo?
Joyce is now making some of the best gumbo I’ve ever had! Texas? Louisiana? Mississippi? (well, there was a place in Moss Point, Mississippi where I used to shoot a little 3 ball. . .)
Joyce’s gumbo is the best! We call it refrigerator gumbo, she’ll use a lot of left overs in it.
I planted three okra plants this year and they are now tall enough that I don’t have to stoop to pick the okra. I get enough each evening for a mess of fried okra. Does it get any better?
“No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one.”
John Lennon
Gee, you make me all touchy-feely when you post sweet nothings.
I wish I could draw you a peace symbol or a flower for your hair.
“Imagine” one of the BEST rock songs in my entire lifetime…. Keep the memories burning, DavidB…. :-)
“Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world”
Unfortunately, there are far too many who DONT want all the people sharing all the world!! A very sad state of affairs….
One Carbon Credit offsets one metric ton of carbon emissions.
More from Wikipedia: ”
Offsets are typically generated from emissions-reducing projects. The most common project type is renewable energy, such as wind farms, biomass energy, or hydroelectric dams. Other common project types include energy efficiency projects, the destruction of industrial pollutants or agricultural byproducts, destruction of landfill methane, and forestry projects.[4] Purchase and withdrawal of emissions trading credits also occurs, which creates a connection between the voluntary and regulated carbon markets.
One project finances a hydro electric plant. See: http://www.poweronline.com/article.mvc/Carbon-Credits-Project-Prepared-By-MWH-0001?VNETCOOKIE=NO
They are using carbon credits from the Netherlands to build a powerplant in Bulgaria
This is real world Carbon Credits in action.
AMEN to that DavidB!!! Glorious!!
Farmer, I thought you might find this of intellectual interest. That’s my only point.
Homosexual activist admits there is no ‘gay gene’
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=205608
“One of the untouchable dogmas of the homosexualist movement is the assertion of the existence of a “gay gene” — or a genetic marker that causes same-sex attraction. The assertion of a genetic factor in homosexual preference has never been demonstrated by scientists, and now at least one prominent campaigner in the British homosexual movement has admitted this fact.
Peter Tatchell, an Australian-born British homosexual activist who founded the “direct action” group OutRage! that specializes in media stunts such as disrupting Christian religious services, wrote on Spiked Online that he agrees with the scientific consensus that there is no such thing as a “gay gene.”
Contrary to the findings of some researchers who have tried to posit a purely genetic origin for same-sex attractions, Tatchell wrote, “Genes and hormones may predispose a person to one sexuality rather than another. But that’s all. Predisposition and determination are two different things.”
Homosexual activists have adopted the “gay gene” theory to bolster their assertion that any objection on moral grounds to homosexual activity is akin to objecting to left-handedness or skin color. It has supported the accusation that Christians and others who object to the homosexual movement are racists and bigots. Tatchell even went as far as to acknowledge the existence of some who have changed their “sexual orientation.”
“If heterosexuality and homosexuality are, indeed, genetically predetermined…how do we explain bisexuality or people who, suddenly in mid-life, switch from heterosexuality to homosexuality (or vice versa)? We can’t.”
That is pretty bold there Parkay to send people to protest in China. There are MANY human rights violations and I’ll stand with you on the lack of choice for women, the lack of ALL rights for their people.
And the Nurses for Newborns group sound really wonderful. Why would anyone be against it unless they’re pushing for women who shouldn’t have babies to give birth just so they can have the babies taken away from them for adoption. And don’t tell me that they don’t have people who do that very thing.
And for all of the ‘pain’ there are many more who are just as qualified and say there is no pain that can be felt as the nerve pathways and neurotransmitters are NOT PRESENT yet.
KFG- your book citing made a great point. Fairy tales and bible stories are quite gruesome.
Box, there is a whole group of gays who do NOT want a genetic marker to be determined as someone might find that to be a flaw- something that needs changed.
You cannot tell me that gay people choose. I don’t know if its genetic, but it is certainly biological.
If it were genetic, you could be deemed defective and eligible for entitlements. Heck, maybe even handicrap plates!
P_moma,
There are all kinds of things that attract people and influence peoples behavior. That doesn’t make it okay or acceptable to act on them.
Homosexual activity has been unequivocally condemned, and by most accounts is counter healthy and of of no benefit to an ongoing healthy society.
I don’t dislike gays at all, I do dislike gays trying to force their lifestyle on the rest of society as normal and simply an equivalent choice. Or force a redefinition of marriage on the rest of society which it has never been understood to be.
Leave me alone and I will do likewise is my attitude about it, but don’t make me accept something I know is not right. I won’t anyway.
I read the Snopes citation Boxlock. You even lied about what it said. What did you do: cut and paste a “purported” Snopes citation from a right wing blog?
Snopes says there is no way to know if a person was nominated for the Nobel Prize because the nominees are kept secret. You’re pathetic.
I read the Snopes citation Boxlock. You even lied about what it said. What did you do: cut and paste a “purported” Snopes citation from a right wing blog?
Snopes says there is no way to know if a person was nominated for the Nobel Prize because the nominees are kept secret. You’re pathetic.
“You cannot tell me that gay people choose. I don’t know if its genetic, but it is certainly biological.”
Lemme get this straight…
It’s biological but not genetic? Biological but not in the genes? So, it must be environmental? They’re gay due to external factors?
=) Agreed.
“Lemme get this straight…”
That’s purty good Golfnut.
All gay all the time.
And that’s exactly what you did. Your post, Boxlock, word for word, can be found on a number of pathetic rightwing sites. You never even read the Snopes site, did you?
” This $300 billion spending proposal would cost more than 42 states’ budgets combined (general fund expenditures” — blah blah
Yet it’s less than the Pukes spent annually for five years on their stupid wars. I don’t agree with pie in the sky Obamisms either, but at least some of Obamas pipe dreams could be classified as investments which will pay off in the future.
“less than the Pukes spent annually ”
Will you admit that the Pukes are spending money we do not have for the war in Iraq? They are running up the national debt – to the tune of 10 plus trillion dollars?
Yep, and Obama’s social programs would make things worse unless funded. So would McMorewar.
Golf biological can mean something other than genetic. such as, like a deficiency in a certain protein might cause damage to the way an organ functions.
My baby brother who died from trisomy 9 mosaic is a good example. His was a mutation, not genetic. Still biological.
Don’t argue this with me, you know I know what I’m talking about and you don’t. Why bother?
So the worthless war is no justification for Obama to spend us into further debt. We can agree.
Box you’re an idiot to think that just because you don’t like it means that it isn’t right. Your ideals are archaeic and most people believe that gay marriage will be normalized soon.
If you don’t like it, that’s fine, don’t marry a man. Otherwise, just like people used to condemn blacks marrying whites..you’ll get over it. And you have no right to impose that on others.
“My baby brother who died from trisomy 9 mosaic is a good example. His was a mutation, not genetic. Still biological.” — p.m.
GAWD
” most people believe that gay marriage will be normalized soon.”
I beg to disagree on this one. Voters in thirty states have voted to protect marriage as defined between a man and a woman.
Further, less than five percent of the population (depending upon which survey, US Census Bureau 1.1 percent) are gay and living together as man and wife.
Surely you can see where the views expressed by one poster here are supportable by the population.
Unless of course, you mean “majority” to be a few judges. In which case, you are absolutely correct.
Boxlock is going to have to get used to dealing with a LOT of things that he doesn’t like.
That’s what happens when you get old and the rest of the world doesn’t.
Unless there’s a payoff in the future, such as an investment in infrastructure, I agree. We need to tackle the entitlement programs we have now first before adding new ones. Some unfunded programs would be all right, if they are wise investment in the future.
No more tax cuts, no more rebates, no more stupid wars.
Do you have a problem Beber? It was a mutation of the chromosome 9, that’s a fact. do you misunderstand?
Box, the younger you go, the more acceptable gay marriage is. So you old farts will be dying out and more enlightened people will be voting.
“unfunded programs would be all right, if they are wise investment”
Sorry you cannot have both unfunded and wise investments.
beber,
You are a LIAR!!!
Read Snopes right from the Snopes website you idiot.
Irena Sendler
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp
Claim: Irena Sendler, a candidate for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, is credited with saving 2,500 Polish Jews from the Holocaust.
Status: True.
Example: [Collected via e-mail, June 2008]
What is your ideology so perverted you can’t or won’t accept the truth.
Just read what is there dimwit, it’s right there for anyone with any comprehension ability to read and understand. Oh…I forgot who I’m dealing with.
Try reading it, and anyone else that wants to KNOW beber is a liar.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp
Investment.
In finance, the purchase of a financial product or other item of value with an expectation of favorable future returns. In general terms, investment means the use money in the hope of making more money.
In business, the purchase by a producer of a physical good, such as durable equipment or inventory, in the hope of improving future business.
Now, you might mean “investment” something intangible like the “bettering of mankind”. Like pukes use to describe the investment in national defense.
But it is never WISE to spend money which you do not have (unfunded).
Particularly, when you are talking about our childrens, grandchildren, and great grandchildrens money and future.
American_Way,
Those dimwit folks that claim traditional values concerning marriage and sex are going away are the uninformed fringe of society in reality. They are the ones that are going away over time as their perverted values will not survive.
They are like the idiot that faces a gale wind and attempts to pee against it.
They are a joke which I get quite a giggle out of.
Or maybe Political_mama meant like the citizens of California who voted to define marriage as between a man and a woman. 61% of voters obviously believe that marriage is not for gays.
Is this the “most people” you are so blindly thinking support gay marriage?
Or does “most people” mean “a few judges”?
It’s O.K., to believe in a cause Political Mama. But is not truthful to state or allow yourself to believe things that are not true, and use lies to support a cause.
Perverted values will not survive? Well how many whites are married to blacks now…that was once considered perverse. Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of man. Your traditional ideals are dying out. Thank God, we need to move forward.
There was once a time when women had to wear long pants to swim in. Some nations they still do.
Seems to me, the dimwits are those who are so hardline in their beliefs that they cannot adapt.
My Mother voted against allowing gays to marry in Missouri. To this day she regrets that vote! She is a loyal church attending God fearing older and vulnerable widow who listened to those wonderfully loving, kind, understanding, forgiving and compassionate ministers and friends at church. She actually changed church homes due to the hate, and that’s not an easy thing for a woman her age. She was mislead, she was lied to, she was scared and intimidated. She is ashamed she allowed such evil to carry her along with their agenda of hate.
Those states that have passed gay marriage bans would have greater difficulty passing the same laws again today, maybe even Kansas. Although Kansas does have MORE than a fair share of idiots and prejudiced people so it could take our state a few decades beyond those populated with intelligence.
Wow! I just realized, writing about Political Momma using lies to support a cause,
is just like Bush!!!! :-)
So much in common.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/may/07053003.html
And that site is against it.
“Some nations they still do.”
Yep, places like Afghanistan, where women are stoned to death. And places like Iran where they are sentenced to death when they have been raped or participated in adultery. And coming soon to a former war zone near you: Iraq!
Guess it’s o.k. for women to suffer in these nations.
But again, this from a lady who says “most” people support gay marriage! Ha!
Box and AmWay are now owned.
Oh come now boxy!
Why think of the changes you’ve had to endure.
Civil rights for black people, a woman’s right to choose.
Gay people unafraid of folks like you.
On all fronts, people like you are having to adapt.
No, you won’t evolve. But you will have to adapt.
YOU support a culture equal with treating women like property not me.
Sorry Pmomma, your 2007 link to a pro-gay site does not constitute truth.
Want me to post the voting results from 30 states?
California?
You can’t say “most” based upon the unsupported views expressed by liberal media sources. Facts baby. Polls don’t reflect truth, only the views of those formulating the questions asked.
Let’s talk election booths. This is still America right?
“Most” people post facts not fiction.
Boxlock it is comical how we post an opinion on one particular subject matter, and suddenly we are “lumped” into those evil ones who supported everything from slavery to women haters.
Archie Bunker would be proud of the prejudice flowing on these blogs.
Of course, they are lumping gays with blacks (genetic) and civil rights. But I guess you can twist it any way you want when you are a lib.
“Sorry you cannot have both unfunded and wise investments.” — Am Way
So you live in a tent then?
The voting booth is not the voice of all Americans. What percentage of people never vote Box? The younger generations by far support homosexuals as equals. Its a fact. And that was NOT a pro-gay site at all- it was an anti-choice site which are almost always comprised of WHO?, are you ignorant? Did you even read it? They were complaining about the high acceptance due to gay programs in the schools.
“In the Gallup Poll, for example, only 45% of people of over 55 years of age support “homosexuality as an acceptable alternative lifestyle”; whereas young people from ages 18-34 years old are 75% in favor. “
No use arguing with you boxlock; the box is locked.
Proving the lie of the scaredy cat provincial cons?
High school enrollment for my son was enlightening.
While at the school, I saw a list of the clubs.
There is a bible study club.
SO this proves that the statist cons can still have their faith in the schools. They just can’t preach it.
What they WON’T like to hear?
There is also a gay straight alliance club.
Guess which club I would be proud for my son to join?
Ohhh Box??? Ohhh Boxy???
Snopes says very pointedly that the nominees for the Nobel Prizes are not madfe known for FIFTY years…. WHY do you call beber a liar??
And Political Momma may not be bright enough to realize the majority does not support gay marriage, but for her to call Boxlock “archaeic” has absolutely no basis in fact.
Silly wishful thinking. But anyone who really examines the issue of gays and marriage is smart enough to realize – and would be wise to consider, that a large number of Americans are opposed.
That Boxlock is one of them, does not make him nor the majority of Americans – cave men.
Generally speaking, I’ve found there are at least two sides to most issues (which is why they are issues). Which is why I attack those who DENY that and those who go so far as to LIE about it.
“YOU support a culture equal with treating women like property not me.” — p.m.
In order to be treated as property, someone would have to want to own you.
You never answered what you were complaining about Beber. Or were you going to say something stupid.
Ummm Box…. I dont know HOW you are doing cut/paste from Snopes…. since Snopes doesnt ALLOW for cut/paste…. doesnt work there….
“most’ my arse.
The mutation of a gene is a genetic mutation. The gene was mutated. See, gene, genetic, gawd.
Amway, you are a caveman, and I DID provide a statistic to back my point. One in which you all tried to say was pro-gay and I pointed out easily that it is actually very anti-gay.
beber,
Here, since you seem so functionally illiterate to click on a link, read the actual website and understand what is there let me cut and paste it out for you.
Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp
“Irena Sendler was reportedly a candidate to receive the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, but that honor was not awarded to her. (It’s difficult to state categorically that she was “nominated” for the award, since information about Nobel Prize “nominations, investigations, and opinions is kept secret for fifty years.”
In 2007, the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded jointly to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and former U.S. Vice-President Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr. “for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.” (Al Gore was also involved with another significant award in 2007, when An Inconvenient Truth, a documentary about his campaign to make the issue of global warming a recognized problem worldwide, claimed an Academy Award as “Best Documentary Feature.”)
The International Federation of Social Workers (IFSW) expressed its disappointment that Irena Sendler had not yet been honored with a Nobel Prize:
IFSW sends congratulations to Al Gore and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) on winning the Nobel Peace Prize 2007. The issue of climate change is affecting all individuals and societies and it is a more than worthy cause to help begin the change in our lifestyle to prevent destruction of our planet. Social workers know from daily experience that this is an immediate and pressing social and personal issue.
However IFSW is deeply saddened that the life work of Nobel nominee Irena Sendler, social worker, did not receive formal recognition’, said David N. Jones, IFSW President. ‘Irena Sendler and her helpers took personal risks day after day to prevent the destruction of individual lives — the lives of the children of the Warsaw ghetto. This work was done very quietly, without many words and at the risk of their lives. This is so typical of social work, an activity which changes and saves lives but is done out of the glare of publicity and often at personal risk. IFSW recognises her again and at the same time celebrates the commitment and dedication of thousands of social workers around the world who also bring hope and care to people often living on the edge of despair.”
beber, from now on read what I post and the links I offer before calling me a liar, I think you know my information and links are accurate, you can’t be that stupid, but you simply simply can’t accept it.
Grow up child.
He’s cutting and pasting from a right wing site. He hasn’t even visited his own link.
When someone says something is ‘genetic’ they are meaning that it is passed down through the genes. It is NOT in a mutation.
July 16, 2008
California voters passed Proposition 22 in 2000 by more than 61%, saying that a marriage in California is between a man and a woman.
“The California state Supreme Court in California is allowing voters this November to consider a plan to define marriage as one man and one woman, a move that could overturn the same court’s ruling in May that same-sex duos should be recognized as “married.”
The amendment states: “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California,” and if it is passed, it will nullify the 4-3 ruling of the California Supreme Court issued on May 15 and would ban same-sex marriage in California.
Of 28 states where such an amendment has been considered, voters in 27 states – all but Arizona – have passed the amendment.
A Los Angeles Times poll recently reported 54 percent of Californians polled supported the amendment, while 35 percent opposed it. A simple majority of the vote is needed to add Proposition 8 to the California Constitution.
Cut and pasted from Snopes:
The article quoted above began circulating on the Internet during the summer of 2001. In furtherance of the hoax, later that year pranksters thought to register and erect a web site around it in an attempt to fool people into thinking there really was such an institute.
The piece is simply a political jibe, made obvious by its ranking all the Democratic presidents of the last several decades as having high (even exceptionally high) IQs (note that Bill Clinton’s IQ is listed as being exactly twice George W. Bush’s) while ranking all the Republican presidents from the same time frame as average to moderate in intelligence, with the current president and his father assigned below-average figures placing them at the very bottom of the list. (President Nixon is the sole exception, presumably because his reputation is still so tarnished that not even a high IQ measurement can yet redeem him in the court of public opinion.)
[Some noticeable errors: Although the study includes Franklin D. Roosevelt, who died in office in 1945, the report is described as covering presidents in office “over the past 50 years.” Also not true is the claim that “all the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had a least one book under their belt” ; some of them authored no books until after becoming president, and George W. Bush did have a book to his credit before being elected president, 1999’s A Charge to Keep. Plus, if there’s a “Swanson/Crain” system for ranking intelligence, nobody else seems to have heard of
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.asp
(chortles)
What you are quoting is a screed from a right wing site copied to Snopes.
Yes, Snopes says, Irene Sandler was a heroine. That part is true. Snopes goes on to say that it was reported that Sandler was a Nobel Prize nominee, but concluded it is difficult to say if she was nominated because the names of nominees are kept secret for 50 years.
I believe nominations are made by the a Nobel committee and not anyone who wants to make one. I don’t feel like researching it. Why don’t you? It might do you good, Box Lock.
‘It’s difficult to state categorically that she was “nominated” for the award, since information about Nobel Prize “nominations, investigations, and opinions is kept secret for fifty years.”’
WOW, if it’s kept a secret for FIFTY YEARS, how can anybody state categorically that Irena was even considered for the Prize???
I believe that is the point in contention here… NOT that she is not deserving… most likely with hundreds of others!!
And its just like I said idiot, that in a few years after you all die out, the younger generation will be the ones voting. It will not be long. And it will come along quicker once the courts rule that it is a civil rights issue just as blacks marrying whites was.
Not everyone votes. The ones MOST LIKELY to vote are also the ones most likely to be against gay marriage.
Let me help guide you PMomma:
in 2000 by more than 61% = ‘most’
54 percent of Californians = ‘most’
voters in 27 states = ‘most’
and yes,
the 4-3 ruling of the California Supreme Court = ‘most’ (but that is not ‘most people’)
As much as I hate beber, he’s owned you all on this one.
And Beber is a nasty old man, he aint no kid.
Correct, Charles, but Box Lock can’t make the distinction as he is no doubt wasted. Nor has he bothered to visit his own site.
Correct, p.m., and smelly, too. Stinky, even.
http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm
there is a list of all the polls taken on same sex issues. MOST of those support more rights for gays. So read it and weep.
“after you all die out, the younger generation will be the ones voting. It will not be long”
So what you mean PMomma, is once ‘most’ of us die, the 77 million babyboomers and todays retirees, the young will inherit the earth.
O.K., I’ll give you that.
But remember life expectancy is getting better all the time. It will be much longer than you think.
And yes, your liberal judges MAY vote to overturn the vote of the people all across this land on every social cause.
But that doesn’t make them ‘most’.
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Chas
Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:44 pm | Permalink
Ummm Box…. I dont know HOW you are doing cut/paste from Snopes…. since Snopes doesnt ALLOW for cut/paste…. doesnt work there….
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I just did copy from Snopes.
Can’t help it, if Libs are Web challenged.
I run the day care center in Sylvan Grove when I’m not coaching Jr. High girls basketball.
Chas, Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Ohhh Box??? Ohhh Boxy???
“Snopes says very pointedly that the nominees for the Nobel Prizes are not madfe known for FIFTY years…. WHY do you call beber a liar??”
Because Chas, and you are not that brain dead to know this….surely you aren’t, I even give you more credit that that statement deserves.
“The International Federation of Social Workers (IFSW) expressed its disappointment that Irena Sendler had not yet been honored with a Nobel Prize:”
They nominated her!!!, and knew she was in the running, even if the committee officially doesn’t comment on it. Many award nominees are known, it is the procedural norm for them not to comment though many know who as been nominated.
And remember, if you can that long, Snopes affirmed the question or statement of not only did she help thousands of helpless, innocent children, but that she was a nominee for the award but that a fat, self-interested hypocrite, (description my own) was awarded the prize.
And as far as I’m concerned the award is worthless from a humanitarian standpoint.
That’s interesting, Regular. I can’t do it either. I wonder if it’s a browser based problem.
” I said idiot”
And Pmomma joins the name-callers as she sees her opinions mauled by opposition.
And she joins the bigots.
Or maybe portions can be copied and portions can’t?
“Nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize
Every year, the Norwegian Nobel Committee sends out thousands of letters inviting qualified people to submit their nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The names of the nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be revealed until 50 years later.”
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/
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beber
Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm | Permalink
Or maybe portions can be copied and portions can’t?
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Nope, I can copy anything on the Snopes pages. :)
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beber
Posted August 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm | Permalink
That’s interesting, Regular. I can’t do it either. I wonder if it’s a browser based problem.
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Not a browser problem. :D
So I guess I can write to the Nobel Peace Prize committee and nominate Beber, that doesn’t mean he was ever really considered. But I guess he could claim I nominated him (although it’d never happen).
The original was whether or not the abortion pain guy was nominated or not. He was obviously NOT legitimately anyway.
Now, Boxlock…. THAT is the NOBEL PRIZE web site… Read that and then let’s have you explain how ANYbody can say who IS, and who is NOT nominated for the Prize….
I never said the lady wasnt qualified either… so dont start on that crap!!
REGULAR… I have NEVER been able to get Snopes.com to copy/paste… just doesnt work…. I guess one must have to know how to HACK a web site for such things, huh??
Regular,
Sure you can copy and paste from Snopes….to do so you simply have to know more than the typical DemLib, socialist, gay, global warming, hysterical, all faith in big government, no self-reliance, entitlement mongering Democrat.
I hope I have adequately, and clearly explained that.
Oh come now Boxlock!
Rush Limbaugh was nominated too.
If HE had won,(NOT possible since he has not one redeeming value) you would toss Iriana to the wolves, and probably dance naked in the street.
Ewww.
And fatmouth Rush was nominated by con kook Mark Levin, whose program I am monitoring.
Some chick named Inga sitting in for the kook.
SHE just said, “I love teenage boys!”
Ewwwww again.
Sorry again, but the international federation of social workers is not qualified to make a nomination. But do your own damned research.
Sorry again, but the international federation of social workers is not qualified to make a nomination. But do your own damned research.
Thats right beber… The Nobel web site clearly states who is and is not eligible to make nominations…. Generally made by invitation of the Nobel Foundation —-
Oh gee, isnt that just brilliant????
What does political/social positions on issues have to do in the SLIGHTEST way with cut/paste from Snopes???
This is getting more and more ridiculous….
HEY maybe there is hope….Hillary is starting to campaign for Obama and Bill will be speaking at the DNC. HMM maybe he isn’t going to forsake us afterall.
Jay, I seriously doubt that El Rushbo was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize either… Just another one of his phony attention getters… Guess we wont know for 49 more years…. LOL
AM NOT!!!, ???, STFU, LOL, ect. Blah blah…
That should be one Helluva speech too, PMama…. I know I will be watching for sure that night :-)
Ohhh noooo AUNTIE is off the meds again!!
Back to posting NOTHING!! ROFL
And fatmouth Rush was nominated by con kook Mark Levin, whose program I am monitoring.
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Mark cracks me up, very entertaining…but the real comedy is that BlueJay “monitors” his program, HA HA HA!!!! Ooops, gotta hit the sh*t house, you made me laugh to hard…..
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Chas
Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:17 pm | Permalink
Ohhh noooo AUNTIE is off the meds again!!
Back to posting NOTHING!! ROFL
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Chas doesn’t know the joke was on him….HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!
Beber, I like your style.
Well, that is all I have folks. Sleep well and a good day to all!
San Francisco police in Pelosi-Land made no arrests as nearby naked men engaged in public displays of sodomy in an event called “Up Your Alley” where police were under Mayor Newsom’s orders not to prosecute the inevitable public nudity and indecency at sodomite gatherings, lest interference with such vile depravities be deemed intolerant.
The public perversions included variations of sodomy, whippings, shacklings and other sado-masochist acts, urination on others, and perhaps worse acts not photographed or documented.
This is what Bilious Sebelius, AG SixSixSix, and their homosexual agenda will bring to your Kansas streets – unless you act to stop them.
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Obamanation has stated in letters to sodomites that he will endorse the reckless endangerment of children through adoption by sodomites, the repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act [which will bring the nullification of your Kansas Marriage Protection Amendment], the protection of open sodomy in military ranks, and the elevation of sodomy to the equivalent of legitimate families.
I know who she iiiii iiiisssss.
beber,
What is wrong with you tonight, other that what’s wrong with you all the time?
Why are you double posting everything? Wait until the alcohol or drugs let the information through before re-posting.
If you are going to make baseless claims or undocumented statements please don’t, as they are worthless, give links or credit to your statements, as in:
“Sorry again, but the international federation of social workers is not qualified to make a nomination. But do your own damned research.”
Here, let me help:
Qualified Nominators
– The Nobel Peace Prize
The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:
1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.
The Nobel Peace Prize may also be awarded to institutions and associations.
Here look at this from the International Federation of Social Workers
http://www.ifsw.org/en/p38000913.html
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BlueJay
Posted August 7, 2008 at 10:23 pm | Permalink
I know who she iiiii iiiisssss.
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Do ya, eh?
blah
Here beber, choke this down.
Link: http://www.theclimatescam.com/2008/05/13/in-memoriam-of-mrs-irena-sendler/
“For her efforts, Irena Sendler was nominated to the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007. Her nomination was supported by the International Federation of Social Workers (IFSW), Polish President Lech Kaczynski and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. It might have been the first time a Nobel Prize would be awarded in connection to the Holocaust. However, that didn’t happen.
Instead, the Peace Prize for 2007 went to Al Gore and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.”
Go to bed beber….you lose, hope you wake up sober!
Go to bed beber….you lose, hope you wake up sober!
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A big Nelson HA HA to beber!
Good night all….I am simply tired of dealing with the idiots, and you know who you are.
Boxlock…. What is there about NO INFORMATION ON NOMINEES FOR FIFTY YEARS that you dont understand??? Is it the “No Information” part, or is it the “FIFTY YEARS” part???
To keep on submitting that a Nominee is KNOWN prior to that 50 year mark, is making a mockery of the Nobel Prize Selection process, and a mockery of the Foundation….
Is that your point, or what???
I dont see ANYBODY arguing that Ms. Sendler is NOT qualified to receive the Peace Prize…. The only argument I see here is that NOBODY would know if she was nominated or not, for FIFTY YEARS…. And that item is straight from the Nobel Web Site, as posted above….
Now, what pray tell, is your problem, or your issue??? Good grief!!!
Yeah Parkay, because we have open sex parades all over the US with gays. I’m not fond of the parade there either. But honestly, is it that much different from Sturgis, from Woodstock?
It isn’t indicative of most gay’s lifestyles at all.
But I’m glad you think that is how life would be if gay marriage were to happen. Has it happened in Mass? I don’t think so.
It appears mccain has a history of aiding foreign owned corporations, it’s catching up with him.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_dhl_14
And please note, all of you ANTI-GORE people, that Gore was not the ONLY recipient of the Peace Prize…. He SHARED it with an organization…. Equally!!!
SO, it seems as if maybe you all should attack that organization, as well as Gore, if you want to be taken seriously….
They nominated her, but that doesn’t mean that they considered her. Its not that hard.
Oh yea, and according to the Nobel Selection Process, the IFSW is not eligible to make a nomination anyway…. That is also posted above…. By Boxlock!!! :-D
P.M. high school diploma or GED?
“Boxlock…. What is there about NO INFORMATION ON NOMINEES FOR FIFTY YEARS that you dont understand??? Is it the “No Information” part, or is it the “FIFTY YEARS” part???”
Yeah, an official statement, yet many know who are nominated, especially those that nominate them or submit letters of recommendation. Big deal!
Like I have posted and you apparently can’t read,
Link: http://www.theclimatescam.com/2008/05/13/in-memoriam-of-mrs-irena-sendler/
“For her efforts, Irena Sendler was nominated to the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007. Her nomination was supported by the International Federation of Social Workers (IFSW), Polish President Lech Kaczynski and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. It might have been the first time a Nobel Prize would be awarded in connection to the Holocaust. However, that didn’t happen.
Instead, the Peace Prize for 2007 went to Al Gore and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.”
I’m nominating Anti for a Nobel Peace Prize.
P.M —- Say WHAT girl??? LOL
Love this song, An American Idiot (play it in my Honda), real loud:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5mjN32G1iI
PeeMom is now calling gays “mutants”
How perfectly apropos.
We all have mutant genes testicles. Yours just made your brain incapable of empathy for other human beings. But I can pity you.
Interesting song, Steven…. Certainly would have been appropriate for a couple of situations I saw out driving around today…
I don’t call people with cancer or downs ‘mutants’. And I don’t call people with recessive genes for green eyes mutants either.
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Political_mama
Posted August 7, 2008 at 11:02 pm | Permalink
I’m nominating Anti for a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Thank You, but if chosen I will have to reject it….Their choices have been so trivial lately. Frankly they bore me. yawn….sniff sniff.
I guess we are all just supposed to accept that Boxlock is more intelligent and smarter than the Nobel Foundation and the information on their web site, regarding nominees for the Peace Prize….
Hmmmmmm…… Now why do I find that not acceptable??? Oh well….
The Nobel Peace Prize has become a political mess…or a 1st grade spelling contest, you decide. he haw..
OK, children,
Irene Sendler was nominated. In February. Rush Limbaugh was nominated. In February. Al Gore was nominated. In February.
Two entities know if a person is nominated. The Nobel committee and the organization that nominated them.
That’s why we had to live with all the hype about Al Gore for seven months.
So now she’s equating gays with those who have cancer or Downs Syndrome.
You heard it here first, folks.
I repeat:
“For her efforts, Irena Sendler was nominated to the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007. Her nomination was supported by the International Federation of Social Workers (IFSW), Polish President Lech Kaczynski and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. It might have been the first time a Nobel Prize would be awarded in connection to the Holocaust. However, that didn’t happen.
Do you understand what has just been presented.?
Here is the link, read it yourself!
Link: http://www.theclimatescam.com/2008/05/13/in-memoriam-of-mrs-irena-sendler/
I guess this little tidbit means nothing???
“Nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize
Every year, the Norwegian Nobel Committee sends out thousands of letters inviting qualified people to submit their nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The names of the nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be revealed until 50 years later.”
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/
” It might have been the first time a Nobel Prize would be awarded in connection to the Holocaust. However, that didn’t happen.”
Go ask Mark Levin why he nominated Rush Limbaugh.
Jay, Levin has no authority to nominate Limbaugh… Levin doesnt have eligibility to nominate anybody for the Nobel Prize…
Levin didn’t nominate Limbaugh, the Landmark Legal Foundation did, they have the authority.
If we’ll never know the nominees for another fifty years, how did we know that Al Gore was nominated?
nitwits
I am taking Levin and Limbaugh at their spoken word which I heard.
Which Hank reports, means nothing.
Um, he won?
quit whining because I whomped you into the ground testicles.
Pee,
You’ve made it quite clear that you think gay folk are mutants – much like those with cancer (which, by the way, closely correlates genetically).
I’m not gay, so it’s completely irrelevant whether or not you “whomped” me into anything (which you clearly did not).
Hank, if you read upthread, to Boxlock’s post of who is eligible to make Nobel Peace Prie nominations, the Landmark Legal group is clearly not included in that list…
We know Gore was nominated, because HE WON!!
Can you say “nitwit” Hank???
The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:
1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.
Which one of those does Landmark Legal Foundation fall into, Hank??? Be specific…
Thanks!!
Chas.,
We knew Al Gore was nominated on February 1st, 2007. The MSM, Hollywood and liberal nitwits had a seven month orgasm in anticipation of his win.
Hell, Veges was even making book on it.
nitwit
HANK…they only announce the WINNERS… not the entire slate…. It’s not like the Academy Awards, ya know…. Geez!!
Chas.,
Your last post was irrelevant. See my see my 12:19 post.
Your last post was also a lie. The Peace Prize is just as phony as the Academy awards if Gore can win it!
Hank…. The MSM, and Hollywood were all afuss over the Academy Award… THAT is what Vegas was making book on…. NOT the Nobel Peace Prize!! Oy vey!!
Hank… dont argue with me over the Nobel Prize…. READ the Nobel web site….
http://nobel.org/nomination/peace
Correction:
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/
HLP
Posted August 8, 2008 at 12:19 am | Permalink
Chas.,
We knew Al Gore was nominated on February 1st, 2007. The MSM, Hollywood and liberal nitwits had a seven month orgasm in anticipation of his win.
Hell, Veges was even making book on it.
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Is this supposed to be in reference to the Oscar??? or to the Nobel?? Since you make no mention either way, and since we have been discussing the Nobel Prize, it was hard to determine what your post referred to….
If it was a reference to the Oscar, then you would, of course, be correct….
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16920923/
nitwit
You are becoming tedious Chas. Burn Notice is over.
Good night.
Associated Press:
updated 7:32 a.m. CT, Thurs., Feb. 1, 2007
OSLO, Norway – Former Vice President Al Gore was nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for his wide-reaching efforts to draw the world’s attention to the dangers of global warming, a Norwegian lawmaker said Thursday.
MSNBC staff and news service reports
updated 6:28 p.m. CT, Fri., Oct. 12, 2007
Former Vice President Al Gore, joined by his wife, Tipper, holds a news conference in Palo Alto, Calif., on Friday to comment on winning the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.
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Clearly, it is not a secret who is nominated for the Nobel Prize.
Good night; Good luck; God Bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
Blessings on the Nobel Foundation!!
So mote it be!!
Nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize
Every year, the Norwegian Nobel Committee sends out thousands of letters inviting qualified people to submit their nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The names of the nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be revealed until 50 years later.
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/
Nobel Peace Prize Nomination Process
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html
GOOD NIGHT!!!
Mark Levin made no secret of his nomination or the despicable Rush Limbaugh.
The despicable Rush Limbaugh made no secret of the nomination.
Did fatmouth get any votes at all?
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Chas
Posted August 8, 2008 at 1:05 am | Permalink
Nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize
Every year, the Norwegian Nobel Committee sends out thousands of letters inviting qualified people to submit their nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The names of the nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be revealed until 50 years later.
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/
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Except when it ain’t kept secret.
Associated Press:
updated 7:32 a.m. CT, Thurs., Feb. 1, 2007
OSLO, Norway – Former Vice President Al Gore was nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for his wide-reaching efforts to draw the world’s attention to the dangers of global warming, a Norwegian lawmaker said Thursday.
“A full eight months before the winner was announced.”
“The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:
1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;”
Her nomination was supported by the International Federation of Social Workers (IFSW), Polish President Lech Kaczynski and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.
Chas, you are like Monty Python’s Black Knight. Although to a lesser degree skilled in swordplay, he suffers from unchecked overconfidence and a staunch refusal to ever give up. You have no argument left and don’t know when to stop.
You have become tedious.
“International Federation of Social Workers (IFSW)”
Hmmm a professional organization is NOT eligible…
“1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;”
IF you read the full article on the Nobel web site, you will note that Heads of State, such as the Polish President, and the Israeli Prime Minister, are NOT persons eligible to nominate people for the Peace Prize…
National assemblies and governments of states, would be like, ummmmm, Sam Brownback, or Pat Roberts, or Nancy Pelosi…. NOT somebody like George Bush, or Tony Blair, or the King of Sweden.
Get it???
Chas,
You are simply being an even more obstinate moron than usual, and that’s saying a lot.
Here Mr. Learning Disabled, read the evidence and then stand there in front of everyone with you pants down around you ankles denying you look like the fool you are.
The official line of the Nobel Committee may well be that names of nominees are not released for 50 years but all those nominated, those nominating and those weighing in know and it always gets out and you know it.
Here, read it and weep:
Irena Sendler for Nobel Peace Prize
“If Sendler actually wins, this will be the first time a Nobel prize would have been awarded in connection to the Holocaust.”
http://www.polonianews.com/en/irena-sendler.php
Nobel nominee
“In 2007, considerable publicity[8] accompanied a nomination of Sendler for the Nobel Peace Prize.[9] Although failed nominees for the award are not publicly announced by the Nobel organization for 50 years, this publicity focused a spotlight upon Sendler and her wartime contribution. The 2007 award, however, was presented to Al Gore, former Vice President of the United States, and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.”
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler
IFSW supported nomination of Irena Sendler for Nobel Peace Prize
http://www.ifsw.org/en/p38000913.html
Irena Sendler -VS- Al Gore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVw1PANUcdg
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Irena Sendler, Snopes (And don’t try and tell me I can’t copy from Snopes….I’m doing it!)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp
“Claim: Irena Sendler, a candidate for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, is credited with saving 2,500 Polish Jews from the Holocaust.
Status: True.
“Last year Iliana was up for the Nobel Peace Prize… http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp
She LOST.
Al Gore won, for a slide show on Global Warming.”
Check it out: http://www.irenasendler.org ”
Tuesday, August 5, 2008
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Runner-up for the Nobel Peace Prize
“Last year Irena was considered for the Nobel Peace Prize, but she lost to Al Gore, who won the award for a slide show on global warming.”
http://www.richmanramblings.blogspot.com/2008/08/have-you-heard-story-about-runner-up.html
Nobel Peace Prize Race Heats Up
Al Gore and Shiela Watt-Cloutier take the Lead with Green Issues
© Karen Lotter
May 8, 2007
The Gold Medal with Alfred Nobel’s image., uncredited on a blog
Nominees are waiting for 12 October 2007 when this years Nobel Peace Prize winner will be announced. Oprah Winfrey, Al Gore and Sheila Watt-Cloutier are in the running.
2008 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE NOMINEES
http://www.peacemaking.suite101.com/article.cfm/nobel_peace_prize_race_hots_up
The 181 nominations received for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize are believed to include names ranging from former US Vice-President Al Gore to Irena Sendler, a woman who rescued Polish children in World War 2. But nobody really knows, because officially it is a secret that has to be kept for 50 years. However, near the halfway mark, it looks as though environmental issues may triumph and that Gore and Watt-Cloutier may emerge joint winners this year.
In releasing the final count in February, Secretary of the five-member Awards Committee, Geir Lundestad would give only a total count – 135 individuals and 46 organizations nominated – without listing any names. All in keeping with the rules.
Who are this year’s Nobel Peace Prize nominees?
Although nobody officially knows who is nominated, those making nominations sometimes announce them. According to Nobel Prize nominating rules, any “professor of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology” and any judge or national legislator in any country, among others, can nominate anyone for a Nobel Peace Prize.”
This year it seems the nominees include Al Gore, for his campaign to draw attention to the threat of global warming; Canadian Inuit environmentalist Sheila Watt-Cloutier for her work in the Polar regions; Bolivian President Evo Morales; US TV talk show host Oprah Winfrey; UN Aids Envoy to Africa Stephen Lewis; Taiwanese activist Shih Ming-Teh; Malaysia’s former premier, Mahathir Mohamad, and peace negotiators including ex-Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari.
Other announced names and organizations that have been mentioned include Sail Training International, a British-based charity helping young people develop through sailing and Polish-American Irena Sendler who saved the lives of Jewish children during World War 2.”
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Irena Sendler of Poland, Nobel Peace Prize, a real winner
http://www.citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/irena-sendler-of-poland-nobel-peace-prize-a-real-winner/
AND THE NOBEL PEACE PRICE GOES TO THE GENTLEMAN IN THE TIN FOIL HAT; MR. AL GORE!!!
Polish righteous Gentile woman recommended for Nobel Prize
By Amiram Barkat
Holocaust survivor groups here have joined the recommendation of the Polish president, Lech Kaczynski, to award the Nobel Peace Prize to 96-year-old Irena Sandlar.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/771989.html
Irena Sendler – Deserving Candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize
http://www.eclectecon.com/posts/1186955391.shtml
IRENA SENDLER (Who should have won the Nobel Peace Prize)
“The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded this morning, and I’d like to congratulate Irena Sendler. Sendler was a former history teacher who rescued 2,500 children during the Holocaust and was a top contender for the wondrous prize.
I want to congratulate her, because she didn’t win the Nobel Peace Prize. Instead it went to Al Gore, the guy who invented the Internet. Go figure.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1910471/posts
Chas, I can go on and on but I think everyone pretty clearly gets the idea here…she was nominated, but like was said above the “guy in the tinfoil hat won, the guy who claims he invented the Internet.
Give up Chas….you’re dead in the water as usual.
Sorry, had to post in pieces as WordPress would not post all those links at once..
Is it chilly with your pants down chas?
Heh heh
Rush Limbaugh lost.
Get over it.
I see BlueJay is still pushing that dead link….dumbass!