Your daily dose of the undeniable fact of evolution. Creationists can put of facts supporting creationism the moment they appear (about the same time monkeys fly out of my butt).
Human Brains Pay A Price For Being Big
ScienceDaily (Aug. 4, 2008) — Metabolic changes responsible for the evolution of our unique cognitive abilities indicate that the brain may have been pushed to the limit of its capabilities. Research published today in BioMed Central’s open access journal Genome Biology adds weight to the theory that schizophrenia is a costly by-product of human brain evolution.
Philipp Khaitovich, from the Max-Planck-Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology and the Shanghai branch of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, led a collaboration of researchers from Cambridge, Leipzig and Shanghai who investigated brains from healthy and schizophrenic humans and compared them with chimpanzee and rhesus macaque brains. The researchers looked for differences in gene expression and metabolite concentrations and, as Khaitovich explains, “identified molecular mechanisms involved in the evolution of human cognitive abilities by combining biological data from two research directions: evolutionary and medical”.
Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman is in “good spirits” after being injured in a serious car accident near his Mississippi home.
Mr Freeman’s spokeswoman says he has a broken arm, broken elbow and minor shoulder damage.
She said the 71-year-old Dark Knight star is expected to undergo surgery and to make a good recovery.
The accident happened shortly before midnight on Sunday outside Charleston in the Mississippi Delta.
Mr Freeman’s car ran off the side of the road and overturned several times, landing upright in a ditch.
Mr Freeman - who had been driving the car - and a female passenger were airlifted to Memphis’s Regional Medical Center, about 90 miles (145km) north of where the accident occurred in Tallahatchie County.
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Still sounding pretty good. Sounds like some Ron Paul folks made it in…
Pmama….my point is his gross generalization with no basis in fact. When other people make grandiose statements without backup, they are called on it. I am just doing the same…with predictable results.
I’m not positive, so check it out for yourself. The various Catholic schools in Wichita have a lot of students who are not Catholic. While there is prayer in class those students are not required to participate. And they are not required to attend chapel services.
Why would someone who is not Catholic want their child to attend a Catholic school? Discipline and strong moral values. Pretty simple.
Senator Barack Obama addressed the issue of religious teachings in the public schools in June 2007 at the United Church of Christ in Hartford, CT. His speech was widely circulated and commented upon. He criticized the actions of Christian conservatives. “Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart.”
“I’m not positive, so check it out for yourself. The various Catholic schools in Wichita have a lot of students who are not Catholic. While there is prayer in class those students are not required to participate. And they are not required to attend chapel services.” — Heckler
What kind of idot would post something he knows nothing about and ask others to check it out? However, it took me two seconds to come up with this, proving Heckler is full of crap.
Heckler, I’ve never heard of a religious school that allowed kids to sit out of their religious teachings and prayers.
Can you imagine the influence that would have on the Catholic kids..now we couldn’t have that.
So now, if you’re a republican, vote in this poll. Who supports prayer in school, before games, before city meetings and before congress opens the day?
“I’m not positive, so check it out for yourself. The various Catholic schools in Wichita have a lot of students who are not Catholic. While there is prayer in class those students are not required to participate. And they are not required to attend chapel services.” — Heckler
In my experience, there really aren’t that many non-Catholic students who attend parochial schools. The schools have limited space and have to accept Catholic students first.
I’m wondering what you mean by ‘prayer in school’? Also, why only republicans? Most of the democrats I know are good Christians. Why can’t they participate?
Pmom I am a repub who has said before and will say again. I don’t want my child to be forced to pray in public school. Nor do I want them to be prevented from a public prayer if the majority of students want it. I don’t want creationism taught in school. I don’t want social engineering such as forcing my six year old to learn how Megan has two mommies or who Daddy’s roommate is.
More than you asked but how I feel. Let parents be responsible for their childs religious education. Let them teach them about diversity when the parents think they are mature enough to understand it. Don’t teach them to hate as JR seems to think is ok but teach them to think for themselves.
Religious education and prayer belong in private schools only. The public schools need to stick to teaching the basic skills we all need to be productive and survive in our society. The “Golden Rule” is all that’s neccessary to instill in public school students how to treat their fellow man, with just that one principle, the rest will fall into place.
Impeach bush!
“Book says White House ordered forgery
By MIKE ALLEN
A new book by the author Ron Suskind claims that the White House ordered the CIA to forge a back-dated, handwritten letter from the head of Iraqi intelligence to Saddam Hussein.
Suskind writes in “The Way of the World,” to be published Tuesday, that the alleged forgery – adamantly denied by the White House – was designed to portray a false link between Hussein’s regime and al Qaeda as a justification for the Iraq war.
The author also claims that the Bush administration had information from a top Iraqi intelligence official “that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq – intelligence they received in plenty of time to stop an invasion.”
The letter’s existence has been reported before, and it had been written about as if it were genuine. It was passed in Baghdad to a reporter for The (London) Sunday Telegraph who wrote about it on the front page of Dec. 14, 2003, under the headline, “Terrorist behind September 11 strike ‘was trained by Saddam.’”
I think that those things are best decided by individual communities. If a community is overwhelmingly of a given faith and no one objects it shouldnt be a problem.
The small town I grew up in was 65-70% Catholic, 30-35% Protestant. The only prayer in school was at Graduation and maybe one other event. The Catholic Priest and the Protestant minister took turns. We may have had a prayer before football games too, I can’t remember for sure. We sang religious songs at the CHRISTmas program. Those things continued until the school finally closed down about 4 years ago.None of it was a problem. That was the makeup of our community.
The small rural school district my kids are going to sings a few religious songs at the CHRISTmas program. It’s not a problem. Thats the makeup of the community.
I understand how it can be a problem in large diverse school districts. Let the community decide.
Hank the reason why I asked republicans is because this is a republican issue. And Raptor said that the majority of cons didn’t support school prayer.
So GRM says she’s fine with the status quo, although I’m almost positive I heard her say something different before I was trying to make a point of it. Heckler is for it…as long as only a few kids are being discriminated against.
Obama goes overseas, 200,000 turn out for a warm greeting. Bush goes to S.K, 20,000 turn out to welcome him, 30,000 to protest and be treated to the water cannons.
“I don’t want creationism taught in school. I don’t want social engineering such as forcing my six year old to learn how Megan has two mommies or who Daddy’s roommate is.”
So, then we can safely conclude that grmie wants her grandkids to continue the family tradition of ignorance and bigotry?
Psst. Hey Dude. I’ll try to break this to you gently, I know how much you worship Obamassiah.
Photo analysis of the Messiah rally in Germany puts the number closer to 20,000 not 200,000. You won’t hear it on CNNMSNBCABCCBSNBC though. It might mess with peoples sense of HOPECHANGE.
A man working on a home just north of Springfield this afternoon shot an armed man who tried to rob him, said Sgt. Derrick Lewis of the Sheriff’s Office.
Like a petulant pre-teen, you are throwing yourself under the bus, P.M. The majority of Democrats picked Obama. Get over it. He will be unlikely to pick Hillary, because then what do you do with Bill? It would be a mess. Still, it would make for an interesting four years. I favored Hillary myself at one time.
No, the Democrats cannot win without the majority of votes of women, but they can certainly afford to discard those feminists who claim what amounts to unequal super-rights, but still insist on traditional roles when it suits them. We don’t need you P.M. We never did. No one does. No one even wants you. It’s called pragmatism. You cost us more than you are worth.
Nathan, you want to make a bet? Obama wins, you buy the steaks…McCain wins, I buy them.
Nick gave me a case of Bush beer when Dubya was re-elected just to rub it in.
I don’t think it’s just a republican issue. I think there is a very small minority of people that are ‘offended’ by school prayer.
All republicans are not conservative either, actually a small percentage are conservative. School prayer? I’m not for the school sponsored prayer but if someone wants to ask a blessing at a commencement or say a prayer before a game, why not?
That’s hilarious last week it was who gives a flying f#@k what the Germans think, they don”t vote here now it’s
“Photo analysis of the Messiah rally in Germany puts the number closer to 20,000 not 200,000. You won’t hear it on CNNMSNBCABCCBSNBC though. It might mess with peoples sense of HOPECHANGE.”
“but they can certainly afford to discard those feminists who claim what amounts to unequal super-rights, but still insist on traditional roles when it suits them.”
Well, hehehehe, that sure as HELL does NOT describe Pmom.
beber probably lives in a tree house with the “no girls allowed” club sign firmly tacked on the door.
Just a little bitter are we? I’m thinking somewhere there is a woman who’s happy she escaped.
Like I said, next you’ll be accusing me of setting my moustache on fire.
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Nah, I am sure your “moustache” is full and untrimmed, and you wear it as a badge of honor.
I predicted the bushiesmccainees would come out with the ‘photo shopped’ argument, having nothing else left.
You guys are are a riot, but so predictable!
Don’t get me wrong, the Germans make great cars and great guns and I’d hate to see them stop sending them over here. But I really don’t care what they think of us.
That’s the attitude hat we need to dispense with, Heck….it matters what the rest of the world thinks of us..we are only one country of over 200…we don’t rule the world and we need to start taking a good hard look at ourselves, rather than the “our way or the highway attitude” that has alienated us from our allies.
Why would someone who is not Catholic want their child to attend a Catholic school?
Tell ya what, Heckler, I WAS Catholic and attended Catholic school here in Wichita. I hated it. (Hint: It had nothing to do with discipline and strong moral values.)
“I’m not for the school sponsored prayer but if someone wants to ask a blessing at a commencement or say a prayer before a game, why not?” — HLP
As the lone wrestler who refused to kneel in the hall prior the match, I’m a good person to ask. Because goons including the coach threaten you, that’s why.
Did Jesus have a favorite sport? Well screw that too.
Pre…I loved going to a Catholic school and that’s where I sent my kids..what didn’t you like?
I’ll admit, in the 60s we were at the mercy of the nuns…but I learned how to read and write…they wouldn’t have it any other way!
For their safety and well-being, I sure as hell hope you don’t have kids if this is how you think.
I have 4 grown kids, Sol, and they were not taught to hate. They do just fine, thank you. They are kind, loving adults. If one of them had announced to me she was a lesbian, it wouldn’t have made a difference to me. If they would announce they were Republican, that WOULD make a difference.
Travelers’ Laptops May Be Detained At Border
No Suspicion Required Under DHS Policies
Federal agents may take a traveler’s laptop computer or other electronic device to an off-site location for an unspecified period of time without any suspicion of wrongdoing, as part of border search policies the Department of Homeland Security recently disclosed.
“They’re saying they can rifle through all the information in a traveler’s laptop without having a smidgen of evidence that the traveler is breaking the law,” said Greg Nojeim, senior counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology. Notably, he said, the policies “don’t establish any criteria for whose computer can be searched.”
Cops Stop And Search Vegas Couple For Having Ron Paul, Infowars Bumper Stickers
In the new America an endorsement of Congressman Ron Paul now gives the police probable cause to pull you over, ask you for identification and search your vehicle.
Much to their surprise Rick and Ingrid, friends from Las Vegas, discovered this recently when police pulled them over and cited a Ron Paul and an Infowars bumper sticker on the back of their car as having aroused suspicion.
Mary, my experience was not the best. Because my mother wasn’t a member of the Altar Society (she joined the Catholic church to marry my dad), and my dad was not a member of the KofC, I was treated with disdain. My first grade teacher, a nun, was super. By second grade, I quickly learned they weren’t all that way. Talk about a teacher who had favorites! She managed to find ways to hold me back in just about everything, even though I was as good as those at the top of the class. (IQ tested in 3rd grade at public school was well over 150.)
But I got even, although not on purpose. When making a Christmas card for parents, I accidentally sprayed her pretty black habit with white spray snow. I don’t suppose that raised her estimation of me much. LOL
ksfarmgrrl
Posted August 5, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink
“I don’t want creationism taught in school. I don’t want social engineering such as forcing my six year old to learn how Megan has two mommies or who Daddy’s roommate is.”
So, then we can safely conclude that grmie wants her grandkids to continue the family tradition of ignorance and bigotry?
Got it!
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Farmie see if you can follow this. I also don’t want my 6 year old taught about hetro sex either. You see I think 6 is too young to start the social engineering. In todays world kids have to grow up way to soon anyway. Teach them the fundamentals which is what they should be learning in school. Maybe if we focus on that we will have kids graduating with enough knowledge to fill out job apps.
Are you a bigot because you don’t want prayer and creationism in public schools?
“Does anyone remember the Fourth Amendment?” — sol
In How Not To Get Busted a former top dope cop advised people to not have any bumperstickers or decals anywhere on a car. Basically, he reported, cops’ personal prejudices dictated who was stopped and searched.
Predestined why do you think if a 6 year old isn’t taught about sex whether hetro or homo they are being taught to hate. I went through 12 grades without being taught this. Why do todays kids need it. The kids we are turning out today are hurting. Their math and reading skills are low. and we worry about social engineering.
My grandkids when old enough have been taught about alternative lifestyles. They know that our next door neighbor Charlie has two mothers and no father. They weren’t taught to hate anyone but until it was age appropriate they weren’t taught this.
Acceptance and no hate. Are you and farmie haters because you don’t want creationism taught in school?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted August 5, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
…and grmie makes the typical mistake about homosexuality being all about sex, minus the love and commitment.
“Farmie see if you can follow this. I also don’t want my 6 year old taught about hetro sex either.”
Obviously, you havent soiled your hands with READING either book. Neither is about sex. Both are about relationships.
So.. how WILL you answer the kiddo’s questions about her classmates who have two mommies or two daddies?
I’m betting on this way. Recoil in shock and horror.
Yeah. Like THAT isnt social engineering…
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Farmie every time you open your mouth you put your foot in it. Sorry you and I don’t agree but guess what you are entitled to your opinion and so am I.
No shock or horror see my above post.
You see the world through your jaundiced eyes and still haven’t told me why a 6 year old needs to learn about ‘relationships’ in preschool and first grade. Try that instead of throwing around accusations.
Hmm, perhaps decreased demand has had an immediate effect on oil prices, including dampening the enthusiasm of the speculators, rather than all the new drilling:
It will be interesting to see what occurs with China post-Olympics (see link for reference) and the effect of the Chinese government in raising gasoline prices 17% on future demand.
Then, there is still the Iran question; what would economic sanctions do to world oil supply?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted August 5, 2008 at 12:38 pm | Permalink
“. I went through 12 grades without being taught this. Why do todays kids need it.”
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Perhaps someone should inform grmie that the world today isnt the same one she grew up in?
Hell, they didnt teach us computer skills either.
Why do kids need it today?
Um, because the world has changed?
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Computer skills will help a student in the real world of job seeking. Still waiting for you to tell me why this should be a mandatory part of public education when we have students failing the math and reading skills test.
“That’s the attitude hat we need to dispense with, Heck….it matters what the rest of the world thinks of us.”
We are unique in the world. As much as our Constitution has been abused and twisted we are the only nation on the face of the earth with anything like it. Some nations hate us for that. They hate us for lots of reasons,some perhaps valid, mostly not.
Until something shitty is going down in the world and they want our help. Then we magically become transformed into superman. Be it ethnic cleansing in Bosnia or tsunamis in the Philippines. Or Nazis. They know we are the big dog that will respond when the right thing needs doing. We only seem to suck when our best interest differs from theirs. We even suck when our best interests are the same but they don’t have the stones to act.
There has NEVER been a nation that is a greater power for good on the face of this earth. And I’ll damn sure not apologize for it.
Computer skills teaching is irrelevant in a situation where the math and reading tests are being “failed”, too. If a student cannot read or tackle simple arithmetic correctly, his/her computer abilities will not make any difference.
It is too bad that parents refuse to acknowledge, in many cases, that the “social engineering” complained of needs to be the subject of parental instruction at an early age (high school or even middle school is too late). Given, among other things, the earlier onset of puberty, combined with parental ignorance or intransigence, the public schools have been (I suspect against their will, in many cases) dragged into filling the vacuum created by abdication of parents fulfilling their responsibilities to teach their children (gee, sounds like a song title) well (or at all) about sex; relationships; sexuality, to include a few (but not all) subjects for which parents should carry the primary burden of responsibility.
Ya know, VT, I agree with that. In a good world that’s the way it would work. But it’s not a good world. And we have to deal with the world we have, not the world we want, to paraphrase rummy.
And I agree that computer skills are irrlevant if they cant do the three R’s. Pre noted a few days ago that if they cant read and write, jumping straight to the blueprints isnt going to help.
But ya know, it was my Mom and Dad who taught me to read, write, and cypher BEFORE I ever went to first grade.
It wouldnt hurt parents to take some responsibility on those fronts as well.
“I think the point being it should be up to the parents and not the school to explain it to the kids.”
I’m not disagreeing with that. But… it still doesnt answer the question as to how it will be explained.
“I think the point being it should be up to the parents and not the school to explain it to the kids.”
Please post where I said it should be mandatory? Having said that, teachers read all KINDS of books to the kiddies? What’s wrong with reading these? Like I said, neither book discusses sex. Just relationships.
Yep, kfg, it isn’t the world we want but the world we have that we need to deal with.
On reading, etc., we were blessed with two autonomous readers who we encouraged; they both were reading, and cyphering a bit before they hit school as well. Writing; not so much, unless you count making words with magnetic letters on a board “writing”.
“Still waiting for you to tell me why this should be a mandatory part of public education”
And dont worry y’all. Just because schools might teach the kids some facts, whether about relationships or sex, doesnt mean you cant still give them misinformation and bigotry at home.
You have not outright said that it should be mandatory, but by supporting schools teaching children about relationships of an adult nature (not necessarily sex, but life partnership) you are taking that out of the hands of parent’s and placing it in the hands of the education system [sic].
I’ve been preaching here for a couple years how parents don’t parent anymore, but that doesn’t mean I advocate taking away their rights to parent.
Well farmie I will just say that people who know me would laugh in your face if you told them I was bigoted and preached hate.
I think school is for educating our kids. Period. Relationships are up to the parents. I know in the world we live in it doesn’t happen that way always. I also agree that further along this might become a school problem.
Two weeks ago Newsweek had a story about two fourteen year old boys. Interesting story with blame on both sides. One boy ending up shooting and killing the other. If you haven’t read it maybe you should. This has to be a home teaching opportunity.
That was one of the most misinformed and ignorant yet arrogant posts I’ve read in a long time of reading ignorant-arrogant posts of the right-wing.
You ought to actually talk to people from another country before you make blanket statements about what they believe.
Also, your implication that the US defeated Nazism is not borne out by the facts. We did our bit, no doubt about it. But the Russians incurred far more casualties on the Germans than we did or any other country did.
Although chest-thumping Americans like you will never acknowledge it, the old Soviet Union “won” World War II more than any other allied country.
I don’t say this to denigate the noble US war effort, but simply to point out that this world is peopled by other countries whose influence is no less important than ours.
And to set the facts straight, because I think truth matters.
One needs to wonder…. re: 2 fourteen boys in Newsweek… IF they had heard some information about relationships at a younger age… at home, AND at school…. perhaps one of them might still be alive now???
And yeah, it really was in a one-room country school house. We did have indoor plumbing though. With an outhouse for backup just in case that new fangled stuff didnt work!
There are some things I want my kid to learn from me. There are things that I do not trust the school with. As my taxes pay for the school, I think I should have a say in what is taught beyond readin, riting and rithmatic.
Sol, with all due respect, if the kiddies play with other kiddies, or watch tv, they are going to learn LOTS of things that you dont teach them. As a parent, you can counter the things they learn away from home.
Unless ya intend to keep them locked in the cellar or in an information blackout.
Remember, and I know it’s hard to think back so far, how well that worked for US?
The last post by Heckler is a textbook example of how CONs think–”the Soviet Union is bad, so it couldn’t have done anything good like defeat Nazism.” And anyone who looks at the facts and sees that they did defeat Nazism more than any other western power must “hate America.”
While doing a little spying off Murmansk during the cold war we listened to Radio Moscow a lot. According to them, they pretty much won the war without us.
In all honesty, their participation was vital to the victory. We would have won without them, but it would have taken a lot longer and Hitler would have invaded England without the ‘Eastern Front’.
Funny, Radio Moscow never mentioned the vast amount of war materials, food and medicine that we sent them. Without our help they’d be speaking German in Moscow today.
I do have to agree with Heckler, though. Anyone that refers to the Russia of WWII as the ‘old Soviet Union’ can’t be given much credibility. You’re obviously a product of government schools, Capn.
You are correct KFG, they will learn from other sources. I can control, to some extent what they watch, where they surf and who they hang out with. Can’t be 100% though. So when I, as a parent, decide that it is time to talk with my kid about relationships, I will do it open and honestly. If I am the parent I think I am, that will stick more than what little Johnny or MTV told them.
Unless ya intend to keep them locked in the cellar
Are you and farmie haters because you don’t want creationism taught in school?
You can’t see the difference between the teaching of creationism (the Bible=one religion) and the teaching of tolerance through understanding and knowledge?
Obviously, you didnt… What you DID do, however, was to divert the subject to Human Rights and Freedom…. which wasnt the subject…
The Soviet Union didnt have those to items to begin with… Nor did the former Mother Russia, under the Czars… Nobody ever claimed that the Soviet Union WAS a paragon of Human Rights and Freedom…
“I didnt say the Soviets werent the prime force in defeating the Nazis. Did I. Can you show me where I did?”
No, but I can show you that when I pointed out that other countries (which you put down by minimizing their influence on world events) like the Soviet Union played major roles in world history, you accuse me of “hating the country I live in.”
Same thing.
By the way, since you agree with Hank Price, I think you may be a commie too . . .
Capn’strawman was responding to a post I made to Mary about what other people think of the USA.In it I mentioned Nazis. He responded with a bunch of drivel about the Soviets being the ones who really defeated the Nazis.
I responded in the context of the arguement I had been making, that the US was the greatest power for good the world had ever known. I was critical of the Soviets(Russians).
It’s a waste of electrons to debate anything with you two.
Chas
Posted August 5, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink
One needs to wonder…. re: 2 fourteen boys in Newsweek… IF they had heard some information about relationships at a younger age… at home, AND at school…. perhaps one of them might still be alive now??
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Obviously you didn’t read the story or you wouldn’t have posted your ignorant statement.
Pre I don’t need your pity but you do need to look at what I have written. I said very clearly the place to teach this is in the home and not in our public schools.
My thoughts right or wrong. My opinion. I am allowed to have one you know. Just like you.
Hey, germie… it doesnt matter what the story is about… My statement is still TRUE whether you like it or not…. If those boys would have had some kind of education from somewhere about relationships, both would most likely still be alive…
As such, one is dead….
Please show me any ignorance in that, instead of just POUTING in your pity corner??
Six years ago in Iraq. A man speaks out against the “government”. In the night a goon squad comes to visit. They gouge one of his eyes out, cut off 5 or 6 of his fingers, and leaves him to bleed out while they gang rape his wife.
Six years later. A man speaks out against something the Democratically elected government is trying to do regarding oil revenue sharing. Someone screams at him and spits in his face. No goon squad.
Before I can make a statement on your story about the book we’ve been discussing, I would have to know all the facts. I know there are some people who draw conclusions without knowing the facts or even have a clue what they’re talking about. I’m really tired of kneejerk reactions from people who are unfamiliar with something, just because they THINK they know something and THINK it’s wrong.
Pre I don’t need your pity but you do need to look at what I have written. I said very clearly the place to teach this is in the home and not in our public schools.
I don’t disagree with you. There are some things that should be taught in the home. Sex and religion are just two of them. I really can’t believe a teacher was teaching what you say she/he was.
Just as you have your opinion, so do I. And I can pity whomever I want to pity. The funny thing is, you don’t even know why.
The contention that without the help of U.S. industrial might, Russia would have been defeated by Germany, is another myth of the super patriot: This quotation from the Wikipedia has some bearing.
“”Overall production slowed down somewhat while the new tank started its production run. Although a T-34-85 was still not a match for a Panther, the improved firepower made it much more effective than before. The decision to improve on the existing design instead of tooling up for a new one allowed the Soviets to manufacture tanks in such numbers that the difference in capabilities could be considered insignificant. In May 1944, the Wehrmacht had only 304 Panthers operating on the Eastern Front, while the Soviets had increased T-34-85 production to 1,200 tanks per month”
Russia possessed a hell of a lot of industrial might. It is true that it was helped by the U.S., but to say without that help it would have been defeated is a stretch.
Remember Russia fought German to a standstill before much aid arrived.
Once aid began pouring in, Russia adjusted its industrial production to weaponry. The U.S. provided Russia with about 15 percent of its aircraft, most of its trucks, and many of its locomotive, and a lot of food and clothing.
They would have had a much tougher go of it had we not helped, but so would we have had.
beber - If Hitler had done Operation Barbarosa correctly I think he would have defeated the Soviets. They keys would have been to (1) get an armistace with Britain (2) keep the US out and (3) launch the invasion in WINTER. Coordinate with ally Finland to close Murmansk; with Japan to close Vladavostok; with Turkey and the balkans to close the Black Sea.
Playing on fear of “Bolshevism” and support of the German-American Bund he could have neutralized the US - IF he could have kept Japan reined in.
“John McCain was on “The View” this morning …. He actually announced that when he graduated from college, he was fifth from the bottom in standings. When questioned about his comment, he then laughingly admitted that he was “much lower than bush.” That was about the dumbest thing he could have said…. do you believe it? IF I had planned to vote for him, that would surely have changed my mind. So, not only is he dumb, he is proud of it… Now THAT is downright scary!!!”
I agree Beber. Not to knit-pick, but I was a tanker in Germany. I think the term was “panzer” but I see your point.
For many years, it was Russian doctrine to throw superior numbers at the enemy. In that way you were correct.
We all knew that the M1A1 Abrams was a much better tank, but the T-72’s outnumbered us 3 to 1.
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The M1 Abrams entered U.S. service in 1980, not during WWII.
Grm, did any of your kids have sleepovers, go to afterschool events, play with kids from school? There is FAR more to school than the three r’s. School is also a place where kids learn about themselves and the world around them.
Where do you think all this bullying problems start from? There are a whole group of parents out there who think that peer pressure and bullying should be used to tease kids into behavior. SUch as why I was teased in the 4th grade for not being a Christian. Tell me, where does a 4th grader learn that?
At some point, your kid is going to ask why Suzie has two moms. And do you let your precious go play with Suzie after school? Inher house. With her two moms? Do you? Be honest. Even if she’s Suzie’s best friend at school?
You cannot deny the social issues in school. Kids are networking in elementary school online after classes.
Franklin, to respond a bit to an assertion you have made on at least two occasions to the effect that no Democrat has won the Presidency without having a substantial lead in the polls pre-election. Well, it seems to me that Harry S Truman was behind (substantially, early) in the polls in 1948 and managed to win. Memory may be failing me here, but if I recall correctly, John F. Kennedy did not have much of if any lead in the summer polls in 1960. I’ll be glad to look at any data to the contrary.
“All republicans are not conservative either, actually a small percentage are conservative. School prayer? I’m not for the school sponsored prayer but if someone wants to ask a blessing at a commencement or say a prayer before a game, why not?”
Because they don’t need to be pushing that upon everyone else- what they can’t pray silently to themself…do they get extra Jesus points for coercing others to pray with them?…what part of that is so hard to understand? and yes, that does count as school sponsored prayer.
Because if it becomes a teasing issue, the kids need guideance on how to deal with this. I’m not saying that it has to be taught either. But the first time some kid is teasing over it, when they’re expelled instead of reprimanding and explaining I don’t want to hear a word of complaint.
Its just like my son and his autism. It would be nice if every parent sat down with their child and explained that some kids have disorders that make them a little different and that it isn’t nice to tease them because they’re different. But no, you get parents who treat my son bad and then wonder why their kid got in trouble for calling him the ‘little retard’- where do you think they learned that from? The school has a vested interest in protecting children from bullying, and if the parents can’t step up, then they have to by default. They have to maintain a suitable learning environment for all, and if a group is going after one kid, that is impeding that child’s right to safe environment free from abuse.
If students can’t be respectful and not bully others they should be punished from the school and at home. The parents should be the ones responsible for teaching the child what is right and what is wrong. The school should enforce it’s “code of conduct.”
The USSR did 75% of the damage to the Germans in WW2. They had defeated vonPaulus at Stalingrad, a few months later inflicting the greates loss ever to a tank army at Kursk where they wiped out several Panzer Corps. Zuckov had lifted the siege at Leningrad, turned the Heer back at Moscow and were rolling up the Wermacht on an ever ending westward drive….before the US was even in the UK bulding up strength. They completed a momentus feat of moving their armament production behind the Urals out of range of the Luftwaffe where they performed prodigious feats of weapons production and development, second only to the US. Oh yes, the Brits had defeated Rommel at El ALamaina and were mounting 1000 plane raids on the Riech by 1942. The tide had turned before the US brought her weight to that theatre but it took everyone who was in the war to beat them and the Japanese by 1945. Nontheless in Europe it was overwhelmingly a Russian show.
ANTI, in a good and perfect world, that is how it would be. Observing behaviors at three separate schools (two public, one private) there’s not a nickel’s worth of difference among them, except that the private school students are much more accomplished at cyber bullying.
When any of the schools try to enforce “it’s (sic) code of conduct”, the parents for the most part do not accept that their precious student could possibly have done anything wrong. “Besides, teasing is a part of school, and the teased just need to develop a thick skin and grow up. Yes, I’ve seen and heard this; no, I will not identify the alibi parents by name, nor the schools involved.
It goes on; parental intervention to stop it is, on most occasions, nonexistent. Thus, it is left to the schools to do battle with not only the problem extant within the student body, but also with the parents.
I used to be an instructor at Navy Nuclear Power school. It was no dishonor to finish last in your class.
Only one out of ten sailors recruited qualified to be selected for that school. Only one out of ten men selected for that school ever finished. To graduate meant you were academically in the top 1% of the Navy.
The Naval Academy is similar. Only one in ten that apply for the Naval Academy are selected. Only 50% of those ever get a commission. Does being an admiral’s son help you get in? You betcha! Does being an admiral’s son make it tougher in a lot of ways once you get in? You betcha!
Okay, so open 2,000 acres of the Arctic Refuge to exploration. 2,000 acres along the edge of the Refuge — or a total of 2,000 acres for a road, pipeline, and an interior area. And make the rest of the 1.5 million acres permanently closed.
Oil companies probably would not bother exploring such a small, limited production area.
avtolle, I agree. There are A-Holes at every age. Schools years ago used to implement a device called discipline, sadly many have forgotten about this useful and eye opening tool. Parental responsibility has also went to the wayside. Why do you think that is? What has changed? Too many egotistical cry babies ready to sue?
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Your daily dose of the undeniable fact of evolution. Creationists can put of facts supporting creationism the moment they appear (about the same time monkeys fly out of my butt).
Human Brains Pay A Price For Being Big
ScienceDaily (Aug. 4, 2008) — Metabolic changes responsible for the evolution of our unique cognitive abilities indicate that the brain may have been pushed to the limit of its capabilities. Research published today in BioMed Central’s open access journal Genome Biology adds weight to the theory that schizophrenia is a costly by-product of human brain evolution.
Philipp Khaitovich, from the Max-Planck-Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology and the Shanghai branch of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, led a collaboration of researchers from Cambridge, Leipzig and Shanghai who investigated brains from healthy and schizophrenic humans and compared them with chimpanzee and rhesus macaque brains. The researchers looked for differences in gene expression and metabolite concentrations and, as Khaitovich explains, “identified molecular mechanisms involved in the evolution of human cognitive abilities by combining biological data from two research directions: evolutionary and medical”.
More at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080804222910.htm
GREAT first post MP!
Morgan Freeman in ‘good spirits’
Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman is in “good spirits” after being injured in a serious car accident near his Mississippi home.
Mr Freeman’s spokeswoman says he has a broken arm, broken elbow and minor shoulder damage.
She said the 71-year-old Dark Knight star is expected to undergo surgery and to make a good recovery.
The accident happened shortly before midnight on Sunday outside Charleston in the Mississippi Delta.
Mr Freeman’s car ran off the side of the road and overturned several times, landing upright in a ditch.
Mr Freeman - who had been driving the car - and a female passenger were airlifted to Memphis’s Regional Medical Center, about 90 miles (145km) north of where the accident occurred in Tallahatchie County.
cont’d at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7542208.stm
What happened to Freeman’s passenger is apparently not important.
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beber
Posted August 5, 2008 at 6:26 am | Permalink
What happened to Freeman’s passenger is apparently not important.
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From the link
Neither Lee nor the hospital had information about the condition of the woman, Demaris Meter of Memphis.
hey beber….I am STILL waiting for your evidence/proof behind your ridiculous statement about how all cons want mass mandatory prayer in schools.
Care to take a stab at backing up that nonsense?
I voted.
http://www.texasgop.org/site/DocServer/FINAL_2008_PLATFORM.pdf
This is the 2008 Texas Republican Party platform some say this is the template for the national platform.
Some say McCain is not a conservative. If you follow this are you a conservative?
From Annie’s link…
Limited Federal Powers – We support state sovereignty reserved under the Tenth Amendment and oppose mandates beyond the scope of federal
authority.
We further support abolition of federal agencies involved in activities not originally delegated to the federal government under a strict interpretation of the Constitution.
Constitutional Citations on Legislation – We urge that all bills presented in Congress include citations to the authorizing constitutional provision, cost to implement, and impact on the family.
Law Enforcement – We:
• Support limitation of criminal jurisdiction of federal law-enforcement agencies in accordance with Article 1, Section 8 of the United States
Constitution.
• Understand most crime is local, and the states, reserve law enforcement authority under the Tenth Amendment.
• Oppose expansion of federal law-enforcement authority and use of military against citizens.
sounds good so far…
Now THAT was mature, beber. Nowhere have you given any verification to your statement that all cons want mass mandatory prayer.
Thank you for demonstrating what an immature, vulgar little jerk you really are.
Patriot Act - We urge review and revision of those portions of the USA Patriot Act, and related executive and military orders and directives that erode constitutional rights and essential liberties of citizens.
Continuity of Government – We oppose appointing members of Congress to fill large vacancies, depriving our right to elect our own
representatives.
Emergency War Powers – We charge the President to cancel the state of national emergency and charge Congress to repeal the War Powers Act and end our declared state of emergency.
Elimination of Executive Orders – We demand elimination of presidential authority to issue executive orders and other mandates lacking
congressional approval, as well as repeal of all previous executive orders and mandates.
Inter-jurisdictional Agreements – We oppose inter-jurisdictional agreements with any state that prevent the Governor from controlling the military, police, other emergency management personnel, and State of Texas resources. We call for repeal of all such measures.
Still sounding pretty good. Sounds like some Ron Paul folks made it in…
Raptor we went thru this yesterday…so tell you what….do a poll today on how many republicans favor school prayer.
We’ll consider that a good representation of the republican party.
Pmama….my point is his gross generalization with no basis in fact. When other people make grandiose statements without backup, they are called on it. I am just doing the same…with predictable results.
Beber
Your an idiot.
Pmom
I’m not positive, so check it out for yourself. The various Catholic schools in Wichita have a lot of students who are not Catholic. While there is prayer in class those students are not required to participate. And they are not required to attend chapel services.
Why would someone who is not Catholic want their child to attend a Catholic school? Discipline and strong moral values. Pretty simple.
What do you have against giving people a choice?
Just a little hard core science for you Ministers of Warming out there.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/512/
Still mighty quiet.
Did Jesus have a pet cat? Well screw him too.
Loosen the tinfoil.
Beber needs a whaaaaaambulance.
And a Lude.
You mean he didn’t have a cat? How about a dog, or a mistress, Sol?
“And a Lude.” — Heckler.
Do you have any extra in your stash to spare?
beber, cats and carpentry DO NOT go well together……I have the scars to prove it….
or a mistress, Sol?
I believe he was married to Mary Magdalene. My personal thoughts, not meant as a blanket statement for any group.
Senator Barack Obama addressed the issue of religious teachings in the public schools in June 2007 at the United Church of Christ in Hartford, CT. His speech was widely circulated and commented upon. He criticized the actions of Christian conservatives. “Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart.”
http://stephendsolomon.com/ellerysprotest/controversiesinpolitics.html
this documents numerous instances of Republican attempts to slip more religious teachings into public schools.
The Repub platforms usually call for voluntary prayer (whatever that means - one can talk to god anytime anywhere as it IS, so I am told…).
“I’m not positive, so check it out for yourself. The various Catholic schools in Wichita have a lot of students who are not Catholic. While there is prayer in class those students are not required to participate. And they are not required to attend chapel services.” — Heckler
What kind of idot would post something he knows nothing about and ask others to check it out? However, it took me two seconds to come up with this, proving Heckler is full of crap.
“Non-Catholic pupils are required to take Catholic religion classes, and attend Mass, although they do not take Communion.” —
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE0DB173AF93BA15752C1A961948260
There might be a cash-strapped Catholic school somewhere which excuses children of other faiths from prayer/mass, but you find it
beber
I was talking about Catholic schools in Wichita.
Read. Comprehend.
Heckler, I’ve never heard of a religious school that allowed kids to sit out of their religious teachings and prayers.
Can you imagine the influence that would have on the Catholic kids..now we couldn’t have that.
So now, if you’re a republican, vote in this poll. Who supports prayer in school, before games, before city meetings and before congress opens the day?
“I’m not positive, so check it out for yourself. The various Catholic schools in Wichita have a lot of students who are not Catholic. While there is prayer in class those students are not required to participate. And they are not required to attend chapel services.” — Heckler
In my experience, there really aren’t that many non-Catholic students who attend parochial schools. The schools have limited space and have to accept Catholic students first.
Waves to Mary. Got your email. And would love to, sometime!
Hey P-Mom,
I’m wondering what you mean by ‘prayer in school’? Also, why only republicans? Most of the democrats I know are good Christians. Why can’t they participate?
Pmom I am a repub who has said before and will say again. I don’t want my child to be forced to pray in public school. Nor do I want them to be prevented from a public prayer if the majority of students want it. I don’t want creationism taught in school. I don’t want social engineering such as forcing my six year old to learn how Megan has two mommies or who Daddy’s roommate is.
More than you asked but how I feel. Let parents be responsible for their childs religious education. Let them teach them about diversity when the parents think they are mature enough to understand it. Don’t teach them to hate as JR seems to think is ok but teach them to think for themselves.
Gotta go vote. Does anyone here know much about the sheriff candidates. I admit I really am not up on that race.
Religious education and prayer belong in private schools only. The public schools need to stick to teaching the basic skills we all need to be productive and survive in our society. The “Golden Rule” is all that’s neccessary to instill in public school students how to treat their fellow man, with just that one principle, the rest will fall into place.
Impeach bush!
“Book says White House ordered forgery
By MIKE ALLEN
A new book by the author Ron Suskind claims that the White House ordered the CIA to forge a back-dated, handwritten letter from the head of Iraqi intelligence to Saddam Hussein.
Suskind writes in “The Way of the World,” to be published Tuesday, that the alleged forgery – adamantly denied by the White House – was designed to portray a false link between Hussein’s regime and al Qaeda as a justification for the Iraq war.
The author also claims that the Bush administration had information from a top Iraqi intelligence official “that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq – intelligence they received in plenty of time to stop an invasion.”
The letter’s existence has been reported before, and it had been written about as if it were genuine. It was passed in Baghdad to a reporter for The (London) Sunday Telegraph who wrote about it on the front page of Dec. 14, 2003, under the headline, “Terrorist behind September 11 strike ‘was trained by Saddam.’”
How did YOU vote on the marriage amendment germie?
I don’t teach hate. That’s you and yours.
I teach self defense and bs recognition.
P-mom
I really can’t give you a yes/no on your poll.
I think that those things are best decided by individual communities. If a community is overwhelmingly of a given faith and no one objects it shouldnt be a problem.
The small town I grew up in was 65-70% Catholic, 30-35% Protestant. The only prayer in school was at Graduation and maybe one other event. The Catholic Priest and the Protestant minister took turns. We may have had a prayer before football games too, I can’t remember for sure. We sang religious songs at the CHRISTmas program. Those things continued until the school finally closed down about 4 years ago.None of it was a problem. That was the makeup of our community.
The small rural school district my kids are going to sings a few religious songs at the CHRISTmas program. It’s not a problem. Thats the makeup of the community.
I understand how it can be a problem in large diverse school districts. Let the community decide.
It’s not something I lose sleep over at night.
I don’t teach hate. That’s you and yours.
I beg to differ…
I am PROUD that my son hates
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-715-2/#comment-384283
Hank the reason why I asked republicans is because this is a republican issue. And Raptor said that the majority of cons didn’t support school prayer.
So GRM says she’s fine with the status quo, although I’m almost positive I heard her say something different before I was trying to make a point of it. Heckler is for it…as long as only a few kids are being discriminated against.
I don’t teach hate. That’s you and yours.
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BlueJay lie No., ah hell, I lost count.
And I’ll add Heckler..nobody objected..because they were too afraid to object.
Believe me, I’ve lived that.
Pmom
“Heckler is for it…as long as only a few kids are being discriminated against.”
Why do you find it necessary to mischaracterize what I say?
I said ” it wasnt a problem “. You know what that means? It means no one complained. No one was offended.
Obama goes overseas, 200,000 turn out for a warm greeting. Bush goes to S.K, 20,000 turn out to welcome him, 30,000 to protest and be treated to the water cannons.
Like I said solie.
Self defense and bs recognition.
“I don’t want creationism taught in school. I don’t want social engineering such as forcing my six year old to learn how Megan has two mommies or who Daddy’s roommate is.”
So, then we can safely conclude that grmie wants her grandkids to continue the family tradition of ignorance and bigotry?
Got it!
LOL
BlueJay,
You teach self defense? Self defense from what?
Phantom
Psst. Hey Dude. I’ll try to break this to you gently, I know how much you worship Obamassiah.
Photo analysis of the Messiah rally in Germany puts the number closer to 20,000 not 200,000. You won’t hear it on CNNMSNBCABCCBSNBC though. It might mess with peoples sense of HOPECHANGE.
Heck…you can split hairs all you want…Obama will be the next prez…
Update: Robber in critical condition after being shot by Jacksonville handyman
http://news.jacksonville.com/justin/2008/08/04/jacksonville-man-shoots-would-be-robber/
A man working on a home just north of Springfield this afternoon shot an armed man who tried to rob him, said Sgt. Derrick Lewis of the Sheriff’s Office.
Mary,
We will see how confident you are a couple of months from now… hehehe
Like a petulant pre-teen, you are throwing yourself under the bus, P.M. The majority of Democrats picked Obama. Get over it. He will be unlikely to pick Hillary, because then what do you do with Bill? It would be a mess. Still, it would make for an interesting four years. I favored Hillary myself at one time.
No, the Democrats cannot win without the majority of votes of women, but they can certainly afford to discard those feminists who claim what amounts to unequal super-rights, but still insist on traditional roles when it suits them. We don’t need you P.M. We never did. No one does. No one even wants you. It’s called pragmatism. You cost us more than you are worth.
Nathan, you want to make a bet? Obama wins, you buy the steaks…McCain wins, I buy them.
Nick gave me a case of Bush beer when Dubya was re-elected just to rub it in.
P-Mom,
I don’t think it’s just a republican issue. I think there is a very small minority of people that are ‘offended’ by school prayer.
All republicans are not conservative either, actually a small percentage are conservative. School prayer? I’m not for the school sponsored prayer but if someone wants to ask a blessing at a commencement or say a prayer before a game, why not?
Exactly Dad.
coming to a theater near you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBo2xQIWHiM
Heckler,
That’s hilarious last week it was who gives a flying f#@k what the Germans think, they don”t vote here now it’s
“Photo analysis of the Messiah rally in Germany puts the number closer to 20,000 not 200,000. You won’t hear it on CNNMSNBCABCCBSNBC though. It might mess with peoples sense of HOPECHANGE.”
“We don’t need you P.M. We never did. No one does. No one even wants you. It’s called pragmatism. You cost us more than you are worth.”
That’s what they said about the abolitionists, the suffragetts, and those involved in the civil rights movement…rock on PMOM!!!!!!!
“but they can certainly afford to discard those feminists who claim what amounts to unequal super-rights, but still insist on traditional roles when it suits them.”
Well, hehehehe, that sure as HELL does NOT describe Pmom.
beber probably lives in a tree house with the “no girls allowed” club sign firmly tacked on the door.
Just a little bitter are we? I’m thinking somewhere there is a woman who’s happy she escaped.
Have you ever noticed how guys who can’t get a girlfriend are always so bitter towards the opposite sex?
Have you ever noticed how women that look like men that date other women that look like men are bitter towards actual men…..kinda funny that way.
Yep.
Some of them can only “get” a girlfriend with a club and a cave…
Hey Mary!
I’ll take the bet! McCain wins we come to your house, steaks, baked tator, corn on the cob and a nice little wine.
Obamal wins, my place!
Mary,
Sure thing. Only we have to eat them together either way.
Lame anti. But we are amused, and we do encourage you to play again.
Like I said, next you’ll be accusing me of setting my moustache on fire.
And anyone who met my sweetie at the meetup knows, she looks NOTHING like a man.
jealousy, thy name is…
“And anyone who met my sweetie at the meetup knows, she looks NOTHING like a man.”
Hee hee hee heeeeeee.
And come do think of it, neither do I.
But, we are amused….
Like I said, next you’ll be accusing me of setting my moustache on fire.
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Nah, I am sure your “moustache” is full and untrimmed, and you wear it as a badge of honor.
But we are amused
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That was the purpose.
And with that, I bid you a jew.
Thank You,
ANTI
Hank and Nathan, you’re on!!!
But I think it will be you guys crying in your beers, not me!!
Youse is beautiful, Ksfrmgrl…inside and out!!!!
I predicted the bushiesmccainees would come out with the ‘photo shopped’ argument, having nothing else left.
You guys are are a riot, but so predictable!
annie
“last week it was who gives a flying f#@k what the Germans think, they don”t vote here”
Still is.
Don’t get me wrong, the Germans make great cars and great guns and I’d hate to see them stop sending them over here. But I really don’t care what they think of us.
Aw shucks Mary. Back atchya girl!
Get a room.
That’s the attitude hat we need to dispense with, Heck….it matters what the rest of the world thinks of us..we are only one country of over 200…we don’t rule the world and we need to start taking a good hard look at ourselves, rather than the “our way or the highway attitude” that has alienated us from our allies.
Why would someone who is not Catholic want their child to attend a Catholic school?
Tell ya what, Heckler, I WAS Catholic and attended Catholic school here in Wichita. I hated it. (Hint: It had nothing to do with discipline and strong moral values.)
I don’t want social engineering such as forcing my six year old to learn how Megan has two mommies or who Daddy’s roommate is.
So, gram, how do you plan to explain Megan’s two mommies? Are you going to teach hate? Because that’s truly the only other option, isn’t it?
Are you going to teach hate?
Are you buddies with junior/bluejay? You sure sound like it.
Because that’s truly the only other option, isn’t it?
For their safety and well-being, I sure as hell hope you don’t have kids if this is how you think.
“I’m not for the school sponsored prayer but if someone wants to ask a blessing at a commencement or say a prayer before a game, why not?” — HLP
As the lone wrestler who refused to kneel in the hall prior the match, I’m a good person to ask. Because goons including the coach threaten you, that’s why.
Did Jesus have a favorite sport? Well screw that too.
Pre…I loved going to a Catholic school and that’s where I sent my kids..what didn’t you like?
I’ll admit, in the 60s we were at the mercy of the nuns…but I learned how to read and write…they wouldn’t have it any other way!
For their safety and well-being, I sure as hell hope you don’t have kids if this is how you think.
I have 4 grown kids, Sol, and they were not taught to hate. They do just fine, thank you. They are kind, loving adults. If one of them had announced to me she was a lesbian, it wouldn’t have made a difference to me. If they would announce they were Republican, that WOULD make a difference.
Travelers’ Laptops May Be Detained At Border
No Suspicion Required Under DHS Policies
Federal agents may take a traveler’s laptop computer or other electronic device to an off-site location for an unspecified period of time without any suspicion of wrongdoing, as part of border search policies the Department of Homeland Security recently disclosed.
“They’re saying they can rifle through all the information in a traveler’s laptop without having a smidgen of evidence that the traveler is breaking the law,” said Greg Nojeim, senior counsel at the Center for Democracy and Technology. Notably, he said, the policies “don’t establish any criteria for whose computer can be searched.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/01/AR2008080103030.html?hpid=moreheadlines
Does anyone remember the Fourth Amendment?
Cops Stop And Search Vegas Couple For Having Ron Paul, Infowars Bumper Stickers
In the new America an endorsement of Congressman Ron Paul now gives the police probable cause to pull you over, ask you for identification and search your vehicle.
Much to their surprise Rick and Ingrid, friends from Las Vegas, discovered this recently when police pulled them over and cited a Ron Paul and an Infowars bumper sticker on the back of their car as having aroused suspicion.
http://www.infowars.net/articles/august2008/040808Stickers.htm
Mary, my experience was not the best. Because my mother wasn’t a member of the Altar Society (she joined the Catholic church to marry my dad), and my dad was not a member of the KofC, I was treated with disdain. My first grade teacher, a nun, was super. By second grade, I quickly learned they weren’t all that way. Talk about a teacher who had favorites! She managed to find ways to hold me back in just about everything, even though I was as good as those at the top of the class. (IQ tested in 3rd grade at public school was well over 150.)
But I got even, although not on purpose. When making a Christmas card for parents, I accidentally sprayed her pretty black habit with white spray snow. I don’t suppose that raised her estimation of me much. LOL
ksfarmgrrl
Posted August 5, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink
“I don’t want creationism taught in school. I don’t want social engineering such as forcing my six year old to learn how Megan has two mommies or who Daddy’s roommate is.”
So, then we can safely conclude that grmie wants her grandkids to continue the family tradition of ignorance and bigotry?
Got it!
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Farmie see if you can follow this. I also don’t want my 6 year old taught about hetro sex either. You see I think 6 is too young to start the social engineering. In todays world kids have to grow up way to soon anyway. Teach them the fundamentals which is what they should be learning in school. Maybe if we focus on that we will have kids graduating with enough knowledge to fill out job apps.
Are you a bigot because you don’t want prayer and creationism in public schools?
“Does anyone remember the Fourth Amendment?” — sol
In How Not To Get Busted a former top dope cop advised people to not have any bumperstickers or decals anywhere on a car. Basically, he reported, cops’ personal prejudices dictated who was stopped and searched.
…and grmie makes the typical mistake about homosexuality being all about sex, minus the love and commitment.
“Farmie see if you can follow this. I also don’t want my 6 year old taught about hetro sex either.”
Obviously, you havent soiled your hands with READING either book. Neither is about sex. Both are about relationships.
So.. how WILL you answer the kiddo’s questions about her classmates who have two mommies or two daddies?
I’m betting on this way. Recoil in shock and horror.
Yeah. Like THAT isnt social engineering…
Predestined why do you think if a 6 year old isn’t taught about sex whether hetro or homo they are being taught to hate. I went through 12 grades without being taught this. Why do todays kids need it. The kids we are turning out today are hurting. Their math and reading skills are low. and we worry about social engineering.
My grandkids when old enough have been taught about alternative lifestyles. They know that our next door neighbor Charlie has two mothers and no father. They weren’t taught to hate anyone but until it was age appropriate they weren’t taught this.
Acceptance and no hate. Are you and farmie haters because you don’t want creationism taught in school?
“. I went through 12 grades without being taught this. Why do todays kids need it.”
O M G
Perhaps someone should inform grmie that the world today isnt the same one she grew up in?
Hell, they didnt teach us computer skills either.
Why do kids need it today?
Um, because the world has changed?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted August 5, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
…and grmie makes the typical mistake about homosexuality being all about sex, minus the love and commitment.
“Farmie see if you can follow this. I also don’t want my 6 year old taught about hetro sex either.”
Obviously, you havent soiled your hands with READING either book. Neither is about sex. Both are about relationships.
So.. how WILL you answer the kiddo’s questions about her classmates who have two mommies or two daddies?
I’m betting on this way. Recoil in shock and horror.
Yeah. Like THAT isnt social engineering…
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Farmie every time you open your mouth you put your foot in it. Sorry you and I don’t agree but guess what you are entitled to your opinion and so am I.
No shock or horror see my above post.
You see the world through your jaundiced eyes and still haven’t told me why a 6 year old needs to learn about ‘relationships’ in preschool and first grade. Try that instead of throwing around accusations.
Hmm, perhaps decreased demand has had an immediate effect on oil prices, including dampening the enthusiasm of the speculators, rather than all the new drilling:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-tue_oil-pricesaug05,0,3900188.story
It will be interesting to see what occurs with China post-Olympics (see link for reference) and the effect of the Chinese government in raising gasoline prices 17% on future demand.
Then, there is still the Iran question; what would economic sanctions do to world oil supply?
ksfarmgrrl
Posted August 5, 2008 at 12:38 pm | Permalink
“. I went through 12 grades without being taught this. Why do todays kids need it.”
O M G
Perhaps someone should inform grmie that the world today isnt the same one she grew up in?
Hell, they didnt teach us computer skills either.
Why do kids need it today?
Um, because the world has changed?
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Computer skills will help a student in the real world of job seeking. Still waiting for you to tell me why this should be a mandatory part of public education when we have students failing the math and reading skills test.
“So.. how WILL you answer the kiddo’s questions about her classmates who have two mommies or two daddies?”
Or for that matter kids with single/divorced parents who have “significant others” in their lives?
So… how WILL you answer the kiddo’s questions about her classmates who have two mommies or two daddies?
I think the point being it should be up to the parents and not the school to explain it to the kids.
Mary
“That’s the attitude hat we need to dispense with, Heck….it matters what the rest of the world thinks of us.”
We are unique in the world. As much as our Constitution has been abused and twisted we are the only nation on the face of the earth with anything like it. Some nations hate us for that. They hate us for lots of reasons,some perhaps valid, mostly not.
Until something shitty is going down in the world and they want our help. Then we magically become transformed into superman. Be it ethnic cleansing in Bosnia or tsunamis in the Philippines. Or Nazis. They know we are the big dog that will respond when the right thing needs doing. We only seem to suck when our best interest differs from theirs. We even suck when our best interests are the same but they don’t have the stones to act.
There has NEVER been a nation that is a greater power for good on the face of this earth. And I’ll damn sure not apologize for it.
Computer skills teaching is irrelevant in a situation where the math and reading tests are being “failed”, too. If a student cannot read or tackle simple arithmetic correctly, his/her computer abilities will not make any difference.
It is too bad that parents refuse to acknowledge, in many cases, that the “social engineering” complained of needs to be the subject of parental instruction at an early age (high school or even middle school is too late). Given, among other things, the earlier onset of puberty, combined with parental ignorance or intransigence, the public schools have been (I suspect against their will, in many cases) dragged into filling the vacuum created by abdication of parents fulfilling their responsibilities to teach their children (gee, sounds like a song title) well (or at all) about sex; relationships; sexuality, to include a few (but not all) subjects for which parents should carry the primary burden of responsibility.
Ya know, VT, I agree with that. In a good world that’s the way it would work. But it’s not a good world. And we have to deal with the world we have, not the world we want, to paraphrase rummy.
And I agree that computer skills are irrlevant if they cant do the three R’s. Pre noted a few days ago that if they cant read and write, jumping straight to the blueprints isnt going to help.
But ya know, it was my Mom and Dad who taught me to read, write, and cypher BEFORE I ever went to first grade.
It wouldnt hurt parents to take some responsibility on those fronts as well.
“I think the point being it should be up to the parents and not the school to explain it to the kids.”
I’m not disagreeing with that. But… it still doesnt answer the question as to how it will be explained.
“I think the point being it should be up to the parents and not the school to explain it to the kids.”
Please post where I said it should be mandatory? Having said that, teachers read all KINDS of books to the kiddies? What’s wrong with reading these? Like I said, neither book discusses sex. Just relationships.
Yep, kfg, it isn’t the world we want but the world we have that we need to deal with.
On reading, etc., we were blessed with two autonomous readers who we encouraged; they both were reading, and cyphering a bit before they hit school as well. Writing; not so much, unless you count making words with magnetic letters on a board “writing”.
Oops. This should have been the second quote:
“Still waiting for you to tell me why this should be a mandatory part of public education”
And dont worry y’all. Just because schools might teach the kids some facts, whether about relationships or sex, doesnt mean you cant still give them misinformation and bigotry at home.
Big eye roll
You have not outright said that it should be mandatory, but by supporting schools teaching children about relationships of an adult nature (not necessarily sex, but life partnership) you are taking that out of the hands of parent’s and placing it in the hands of the education system [sic].
I’ve been preaching here for a couple years how parents don’t parent anymore, but that doesn’t mean I advocate taking away their rights to parent.
My bad. Cross posts.
Well farmie I will just say that people who know me would laugh in your face if you told them I was bigoted and preached hate.
I think school is for educating our kids. Period. Relationships are up to the parents. I know in the world we live in it doesn’t happen that way always. I also agree that further along this might become a school problem.
Two weeks ago Newsweek had a story about two fourteen year old boys. Interesting story with blame on both sides. One boy ending up shooting and killing the other. If you haven’t read it maybe you should. This has to be a home teaching opportunity.
“But ya know, it was my Mom and Dad who taught me to read, write, and cypher ”
Wow, KFG, did you really use Roman Numerals?
Heckler–
That was one of the most misinformed and ignorant yet arrogant posts I’ve read in a long time of reading ignorant-arrogant posts of the right-wing.
You ought to actually talk to people from another country before you make blanket statements about what they believe.
Also, your implication that the US defeated Nazism is not borne out by the facts. We did our bit, no doubt about it. But the Russians incurred far more casualties on the Germans than we did or any other country did.
Although chest-thumping Americans like you will never acknowledge it, the old Soviet Union “won” World War II more than any other allied country.
I don’t say this to denigate the noble US war effort, but simply to point out that this world is peopled by other countries whose influence is no less important than ours.
And to set the facts straight, because I think truth matters.
KFG
Do you have anything to offer besides the “if you disagree with me you’re a bigot” arguement? It’s really kind of weak.
“I’ve been preaching here for a couple years how parents don’t parent anymore, but that doesn’t mean I advocate taking away their rights to parent.”
How does reading Heather Has Two Mommies take away their right to parent?
This isnt directed at you Sol, but like I said, even if the school presents some facts, the bigotry and misinformation can STILL be drilled at home….
“Do you have anything to offer besides the “if you disagree with me you’re a bigot” arguement?”
I guess not. Because if that’s what you think, you certainly cant, or wont, read.
“Wow, KFG, did you really use Roman Numerals?”
hehehehehehehhehe.
Actually, it was an abacus. And a slate board when I got older…
One needs to wonder…. re: 2 fourteen boys in Newsweek… IF they had heard some information about relationships at a younger age… at home, AND at school…. perhaps one of them might still be alive now???
And yeah, it really was in a one-room country school house. We did have indoor plumbing though. With an outhouse for backup just in case that new fangled stuff didnt work!
Yeah Chas. And like something similar never happened with STRAIGHT teens….
jesus WEPT!
LOL KFG
KFG
“I guess not. Because if that’s what you think, you certainly cant, or wont, read.”
I read this-
“the bigotry and misinformation can STILL be drilled at home….”
“doesnt mean you cant still give them misinformation and bigotry at home.”
“I’m betting on this way. Recoil in shock and horror.
Yeah. Like THAT isnt social engineeri”
Did I miss any more?
There are some things I want my kid to learn from me. There are things that I do not trust the school with. As my taxes pay for the school, I think I should have a say in what is taught beyond readin, riting and rithmatic.
Capn
“the old Soviet Union “won” World War II more than any other allied country.”
And what a paragon of Human Rights and Liberty they turned out to be.
It must suck to live in a nation you hate so much.
Heckler is the perfect example of CONservativism walking on two legs today–
“not all CONs are stupid people, but all stupid people are CONs . . . “
Sol, with all due respect, if the kiddies play with other kiddies, or watch tv, they are going to learn LOTS of things that you dont teach them. As a parent, you can counter the things they learn away from home.
Unless ya intend to keep them locked in the cellar or in an information blackout.
Remember, and I know it’s hard to think back so far, how well that worked for US?
heheheheheheh!
The last post by Heckler is a textbook example of how CONs think–”the Soviet Union is bad, so it couldn’t have done anything good like defeat Nazism.” And anyone who looks at the facts and sees that they did defeat Nazism more than any other western power must “hate America.”
Facts don’t matter. Ideology does.
Perfect.
Interesting,
While doing a little spying off Murmansk during the cold war we listened to Radio Moscow a lot. According to them, they pretty much won the war without us.
In all honesty, their participation was vital to the victory. We would have won without them, but it would have taken a lot longer and Hitler would have invaded England without the ‘Eastern Front’.
Funny, Radio Moscow never mentioned the vast amount of war materials, food and medicine that we sent them. Without our help they’d be speaking German in Moscow today.
I do have to agree with Heckler, though. Anyone that refers to the Russia of WWII as the ‘old Soviet Union’ can’t be given much credibility. You’re obviously a product of government schools, Capn.
But… it WAS the “Old Soviet Union” in WWII
Old Mother Russian died with the Romanov’s!!
typo….
Russian = Russia
What are you babbling about, Mr. Price?
I simply call the Soviet Union what it called itself at the time.
BTW, by your own admission, you “listened to Radio Moscow a lot” . . . who else by a COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZER would do that?
Good thing Joe McCarthy and HUAC isn’t still around. As a loyal American, it would be my duty to report you . . .
You are correct KFG, they will learn from other sources. I can control, to some extent what they watch, where they surf and who they hang out with. Can’t be 100% though. So when I, as a parent, decide that it is time to talk with my kid about relationships, I will do it open and honestly. If I am the parent I think I am, that will stick more than what little Johnny or MTV told them.
Unless ya intend to keep them locked in the cellar
Not a bad freakin idea !!!
The last post by Heckler is a textbook example of how CONs think
You really look like an a$$ when you generalize. One person makes statement ‘A’ so everyone in whatever group you define supports 100% that statement.
How utterly naive.
Capn
Take a class on reading comprehension. I didnt say the Soviets werent the prime force in defeating the Nazis. Did I. Can you show me where I did?
Don’t you get tired of building straw men to knock down?
Or is addressing the main point of my arguement to difficult?
BTW, by your own admission, you “listened to Radio Moscow a lot” . . . who else by a COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZER would do that?
It was the only radio we could get in that part of the world, we listened for amusement. The same reason I read your leftist crap.
Are you and farmie haters because you don’t want creationism taught in school?
You can’t see the difference between the teaching of creationism (the Bible=one religion) and the teaching of tolerance through understanding and knowledge?
No, I don’t hate, but I do pity you.
Heckler —
Obviously, you didnt… What you DID do, however, was to divert the subject to Human Rights and Freedom…. which wasnt the subject…
The Soviet Union didnt have those to items to begin with… Nor did the former Mother Russia, under the Czars… Nobody ever claimed that the Soviet Union WAS a paragon of Human Rights and Freedom…
So, what was your purpose in posting that??
Don’t make excuses, Hank.
You are a commie. Why don’t you move to Russia, you America hater?
Now, this could be interesting >>>>
http://www.TheNextCheney.com
“I didnt say the Soviets werent the prime force in defeating the Nazis. Did I. Can you show me where I did?”
No, but I can show you that when I pointed out that other countries (which you put down by minimizing their influence on world events) like the Soviet Union played major roles in world history, you accuse me of “hating the country I live in.”
Same thing.
By the way, since you agree with Hank Price, I think you may be a commie too . . .
Chas
Christ on a cruch, another straw man builder.
Go back and READ.
Capn’strawman was responding to a post I made to Mary about what other people think of the USA.In it I mentioned Nazis. He responded with a bunch of drivel about the Soviets being the ones who really defeated the Nazis.
I responded in the context of the arguement I had been making, that the US was the greatest power for good the world had ever known. I was critical of the Soviets(Russians).
It’s a waste of electrons to debate anything with you two.
HEHEHEHE
Have you ever been to Moscow, Capn.? A good day there is worse than a bad day here!
Heckler —- YOUR words here >>>>
“And what a paragon of Human Rights and Liberty they turned out to be.” (reference to Sov. Union)
THAT was the response I referred to above…
That is from your post, right???
It seem that being a commie would put you to the right of the average democrat today. If I had to choose. . .
Chas
That IS my statement. And it is based in the context of the arguemnet I was making, not the context of the straw man Capn was trying to build.
Chas
Posted August 5, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink
One needs to wonder…. re: 2 fourteen boys in Newsweek… IF they had heard some information about relationships at a younger age… at home, AND at school…. perhaps one of them might still be alive now??
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Obviously you didn’t read the story or you wouldn’t have posted your ignorant statement.
Pre I don’t need your pity but you do need to look at what I have written. I said very clearly the place to teach this is in the home and not in our public schools.
My thoughts right or wrong. My opinion. I am allowed to have one you know. Just like you.
The US is not the “greatest power for good” the world has ever known.
On balance, it’s pretty mixed.
Fighting Nazism, good.
Helping to create Nazism by supporting punative “war reparations” from WWI, bad.
Marshall Plan for rebuilding Europe, good.
Supporting the WTO and other globalized trade bodies to keep 3rd world countries mired in debt and beholden to giant corporations, bad.
Rebuilding Japan as a democracy, good.
Destroying democracy in Palestine, Lebanon, Nicaragua, Iran (Operation Ajax), Argentina, and a host of other countries around the world, bad.
Unfettered free-enterprise, good.
Giving Wal-Mart the biggest corporation in the world special tax incentives and allowing them to flout union protection laws, bad.
Hey, germie… it doesnt matter what the story is about… My statement is still TRUE whether you like it or not…. If those boys would have had some kind of education from somewhere about relationships, both would most likely still be alive…
As such, one is dead….
Please show me any ignorance in that, instead of just POUTING in your pity corner??
Oh yea, germie… since you provided NO LINK to your Newsweek story, its pretty hard to read it…. LOL
Capn
Six years ago in Iraq. A man speaks out against the “government”. In the night a goon squad comes to visit. They gouge one of his eyes out, cut off 5 or 6 of his fingers, and leaves him to bleed out while they gang rape his wife.
Six years later. A man speaks out against something the Democratically elected government is trying to do regarding oil revenue sharing. Someone screams at him and spits in his face. No goon squad.
Good…
Bad…
ksgrm,
Before I can make a statement on your story about the book we’ve been discussing, I would have to know all the facts. I know there are some people who draw conclusions without knowing the facts or even have a clue what they’re talking about. I’m really tired of kneejerk reactions from people who are unfamiliar with something, just because they THINK they know something and THINK it’s wrong.
Pre I don’t need your pity but you do need to look at what I have written. I said very clearly the place to teach this is in the home and not in our public schools.
I don’t disagree with you. There are some things that should be taught in the home. Sex and religion are just two of them. I really can’t believe a teacher was teaching what you say she/he was.
Just as you have your opinion, so do I. And I can pity whomever I want to pity. The funny thing is, you don’t even know why.
The contention that without the help of U.S. industrial might, Russia would have been defeated by Germany, is another myth of the super patriot: This quotation from the Wikipedia has some bearing.
“”Overall production slowed down somewhat while the new tank started its production run. Although a T-34-85 was still not a match for a Panther, the improved firepower made it much more effective than before. The decision to improve on the existing design instead of tooling up for a new one allowed the Soviets to manufacture tanks in such numbers that the difference in capabilities could be considered insignificant. In May 1944, the Wehrmacht had only 304 Panthers operating on the Eastern Front, while the Soviets had increased T-34-85 production to 1,200 tanks per month”
Russia possessed a hell of a lot of industrial might. It is true that it was helped by the U.S., but to say without that help it would have been defeated is a stretch.
Remember Russia fought German to a standstill before much aid arrived.
Once aid began pouring in, Russia adjusted its industrial production to weaponry. The U.S. provided Russia with about 15 percent of its aircraft, most of its trucks, and many of its locomotive, and a lot of food and clothing.
They would have had a much tougher go of it had we not helped, but so would we have had.
beber - If Hitler had done Operation Barbarosa correctly I think he would have defeated the Soviets. They keys would have been to (1) get an armistace with Britain (2) keep the US out and (3) launch the invasion in WINTER. Coordinate with ally Finland to close Murmansk; with Japan to close Vladavostok; with Turkey and the balkans to close the Black Sea.
Playing on fear of “Bolshevism” and support of the German-American Bund he could have neutralized the US - IF he could have kept Japan reined in.
Perhaps, bth. If that asshole Pat Roberts had done his job, we’d never invaded Iraq, too.
Got this from an old friend, in email…
“John McCain was on “The View” this morning …. He actually announced that when he graduated from college, he was fifth from the bottom in standings. When questioned about his comment, he then laughingly admitted that he was “much lower than bush.” That was about the dumbest thing he could have said…. do you believe it? IF I had planned to vote for him, that would surely have changed my mind. So, not only is he dumb, he is proud of it… Now THAT is downright scary!!!”
I agree Beber. Not to knit-pick, but I was a tanker in Germany. I think the term was “panzer” but I see your point.
For many years, it was Russian doctrine to throw superior numbers at the enemy. In that way you were correct.
We all knew that the M1A1 Abrams was a much better tank, but the T-72’s outnumbered us 3 to 1.
Could Hitler have defeated Russia had we not been involved? Tactics say maybe. Logistics say NO
I agree Beber. Not to knit-pick, but I was a tanker in Germany. I think the term was “panzer” but I see your point.
For many years, it was Russian doctrine to throw superior numbers at the enemy. In that way you were correct.
We all knew that the M1A1 Abrams was a much better tank, but the T-72’s outnumbered us 3 to 1.
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The M1 Abrams entered U.S. service in 1980, not during WWII.
Or were you speaking of your service post WWII?
Grm, did any of your kids have sleepovers, go to afterschool events, play with kids from school? There is FAR more to school than the three r’s. School is also a place where kids learn about themselves and the world around them.
Where do you think all this bullying problems start from? There are a whole group of parents out there who think that peer pressure and bullying should be used to tease kids into behavior. SUch as why I was teased in the 4th grade for not being a Christian. Tell me, where does a 4th grader learn that?
At some point, your kid is going to ask why Suzie has two moms. And do you let your precious go play with Suzie after school? Inher house. With her two moms? Do you? Be honest. Even if she’s Suzie’s best friend at school?
You cannot deny the social issues in school. Kids are networking in elementary school online after classes.
Franklin, to respond a bit to an assertion you have made on at least two occasions to the effect that no Democrat has won the Presidency without having a substantial lead in the polls pre-election. Well, it seems to me that Harry S Truman was behind (substantially, early) in the polls in 1948 and managed to win. Memory may be failing me here, but if I recall correctly, John F. Kennedy did not have much of if any lead in the summer polls in 1960. I’ll be glad to look at any data to the contrary.
P.M., why can’t that question be answered by the parents? Why must the school answer it?
“All republicans are not conservative either, actually a small percentage are conservative. School prayer? I’m not for the school sponsored prayer but if someone wants to ask a blessing at a commencement or say a prayer before a game, why not?”
Because they don’t need to be pushing that upon everyone else- what they can’t pray silently to themself…do they get extra Jesus points for coercing others to pray with them?…what part of that is so hard to understand? and yes, that does count as school sponsored prayer.
No Anti. I was speaking of Russian doctrine. Obviously it was after WWII.
The Russian doctrine remained unchanged however.
Because if it becomes a teasing issue, the kids need guideance on how to deal with this. I’m not saying that it has to be taught either. But the first time some kid is teasing over it, when they’re expelled instead of reprimanding and explaining I don’t want to hear a word of complaint.
Its just like my son and his autism. It would be nice if every parent sat down with their child and explained that some kids have disorders that make them a little different and that it isn’t nice to tease them because they’re different. But no, you get parents who treat my son bad and then wonder why their kid got in trouble for calling him the ‘little retard’- where do you think they learned that from? The school has a vested interest in protecting children from bullying, and if the parents can’t step up, then they have to by default. They have to maintain a suitable learning environment for all, and if a group is going after one kid, that is impeding that child’s right to safe environment free from abuse.
If students can’t be respectful and not bully others they should be punished from the school and at home. The parents should be the ones responsible for teaching the child what is right and what is wrong. The school should enforce it’s “code of conduct.”
The USSR did 75% of the damage to the Germans in WW2. They had defeated vonPaulus at Stalingrad, a few months later inflicting the greates loss ever to a tank army at Kursk where they wiped out several Panzer Corps. Zuckov had lifted the siege at Leningrad, turned the Heer back at Moscow and were rolling up the Wermacht on an ever ending westward drive….before the US was even in the UK bulding up strength. They completed a momentus feat of moving their armament production behind the Urals out of range of the Luftwaffe where they performed prodigious feats of weapons production and development, second only to the US. Oh yes, the Brits had defeated Rommel at El ALamaina and were mounting 1000 plane raids on the Riech by 1942. The tide had turned before the US brought her weight to that theatre but it took everyone who was in the war to beat them and the Japanese by 1945. Nontheless in Europe it was overwhelmingly a Russian show.
ANTI, in a good and perfect world, that is how it would be. Observing behaviors at three separate schools (two public, one private) there’s not a nickel’s worth of difference among them, except that the private school students are much more accomplished at cyber bullying.
When any of the schools try to enforce “it’s (sic) code of conduct”, the parents for the most part do not accept that their precious student could possibly have done anything wrong. “Besides, teasing is a part of school, and the teased just need to develop a thick skin and grow up. Yes, I’ve seen and heard this; no, I will not identify the alibi parents by name, nor the schools involved.
It goes on; parental intervention to stop it is, on most occasions, nonexistent. Thus, it is left to the schools to do battle with not only the problem extant within the student body, but also with the parents.
Should be a close quote at the end of the sentence containing the two words grow up. Need to clean my glasses or something.
I used to be an instructor at Navy Nuclear Power school. It was no dishonor to finish last in your class.
Only one out of ten sailors recruited qualified to be selected for that school. Only one out of ten men selected for that school ever finished. To graduate meant you were academically in the top 1% of the Navy.
The Naval Academy is similar. Only one in ten that apply for the Naval Academy are selected. Only 50% of those ever get a commission. Does being an admiral’s son help you get in? You betcha! Does being an admiral’s son make it tougher in a lot of ways once you get in? You betcha!
A Republican Congresswomen’s oil drilling plan.
The Democrats’ Energy Charade
By MICHELE BACHMANN
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121728846656591485.html
“The portion of ANWR territory that should be opened to exploration covers a mere 2,000 acres.”
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Okay, so open 2,000 acres of the Arctic Refuge to exploration. 2,000 acres along the edge of the Refuge — or a total of 2,000 acres for a road, pipeline, and an interior area. And make the rest of the 1.5 million acres permanently closed.
Oil companies probably would not bother exploring such a small, limited production area.
avtolle, I agree. There are A-Holes at every age. Schools years ago used to implement a device called discipline, sadly many have forgotten about this useful and eye opening tool. Parental responsibility has also went to the wayside. Why do you think that is? What has changed? Too many egotistical cry babies ready to sue?