Comments on: Open thread 8/4

By: Regular

Regular — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:05:41 +0000

BTW Steven Davis, your goat is still tied up at Harry and Oliver.

(chortles)

By: Chas

Chas — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:53:27 +0000

Good night; Good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!

Blessings ALL!!

Blessed be!!

By: StevenEDavis

StevenEDavis — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:35 +0000

“Of course a con has never said ANYTHING outrageous on this blog just to get a reaction. (cough cough republican cough cough).”

Check it out:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin

It (regular) is not hard to figure out, with a little effort.

By: Predestined

Predestined — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:49:52 +0000

Gee, Raptor, I’m sorry. Of course a con has never said ANYTHING outrageous on this blog just to get a reaction. (cough cough republican cough cough)

My bad.

By: Boxlock

Boxlock — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:30:33 +0000

“Tyson should ideally have just added the Moslem holiday, for union members… and left Labor Day intact…”
Chas,
For once in a very great while you and I can agree.
And…for some reason, I question my sanity now, I like that.

By: Chas

Chas — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:44:08 +0000

Tyson should ideally have just added the Moslem holiday, for union members… and left Labor Day intact…

By: Boxlock

Boxlock — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:38:02 +0000

“Upthread, you argued that you didnt KNOW if they are, or are not illegals…. IF they are citizens, then citizenship has nothing to do with your argument….”

But Citizenship DOES have everything to do with the ability to be a member of the union and still recognize American holidays and not Muslim religious holidays. You dummy!!!

By: Boxlock

Boxlock — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:34:34 +0000

“Your ORIGINAL gripe was that the Tyson people had done away with Labor Day as a Holiday…. which it obviously has not done… As usual, you try to create a situation that does not exist….”

Yes, they have done away with Labor Day for Union members, Muslim or not, and substituted Eid al-Fitr. If you desire to be a member of the union, Muslim or not, you will get Eid al-Fitr and NOT Labor Day.

And quite frankly I do question the citizenship of the Somalis in this situation, though I admit, and said something earlier about the article not saying anything about them being illegal. It will be interesting if the Feds/INS take a look at this Tyson plant…I hope they do

By: Chas

Chas — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:22:11 +0000

Boxlock
Posted August 4, 2008 at 5:14 pm | Permalink
Chas,
What difference does it make if it only applies to the union.
So if I’m an American citizen and want to belong to the union, but don’t want anything to do with Muslim religious holidays, that becomes mutually exclusive. And that’s okay?
Asinine capitulation.
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Hmmmm Now BOXY questions the citizenship of the Moslems??? Upthread, you argued that you didnt KNOW if they are, or are not illegals…. IF they are citizens, then citizenship has nothing to do with your argument….

Your ORIGINAL gripe was that the Tyson people had done away with Labor Day as a Holiday…. which it obviously has not done… As usual, you try to create a situation that does not exist….

And I am calling you on that —–

By: Internet Kasino

Internet Kasino — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:32:22 +0000

Fact is usually overridden by the law. ” I don’t think so, but this year we’ve had more bets on The Monitor than usual. This is generally known as the way.

By: Regular

Regular — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:19:41 +0000

McCain announces Running Mate

Hillary Rodham Clinton

…news at eleven

By: StevenEDavis

StevenEDavis — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:41:38 +0000

nor = not – dyslexic fingers, indeed.

By: StevenEDavis

StevenEDavis — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:40:56 +0000

“blow a hole” nor “blow a whole” – and I am NOT saying anymore on that. :)

By: StevenEDavis

StevenEDavis — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:39:54 +0000

“Yes Steven…I have and I will. In my opinion only, the extremist hate speech from either side is counterproductive, juvenile, and leads only to more bickering and ridiculous statements like the ones I posted above.”

Hard to see how anyone could argue with that.

Another thought on the survey I posted at 9:19 which showed that most people, religious and otherwise, did not mind school prayer: That finding seems to blow a whole in the conservative meme that the religious are victims of discrimination. If that survey is even remotely correct, they are not.

By: Boxlock

Boxlock — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:25:56 +0000

PS Raptor,
I had to read your post to know that as I don’t read the Monkey’s but scroll over them anymore.

By: Boxlock

Boxlock — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:24:29 +0000

Raptor,
Same with me on the smoking issue.
I don’t smoke, can’t stand to be around it but government has no place dictating to private business about a legal product.
Now, because you so painfully reminded me that is in agreement with the Monkey….I’m going to take a bath with lye soap to feel clean again.

By: Boxlock

Boxlock — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:21:02 +0000

P_mama,
I do remember you saying something about that now. I am sorry for your mother and anybody that loses their job to illegals.
None the less, there was nothing in the article said about the Somalis being illegal, though that may be a fair assumption.
If so I hope this attention puts the Feds/INS, on them like a stink that can’t be washed off.
FYI, I emailed Tyson corporate and got a reply, not a form reply either, like in 20 minutes. They were all over themselves trying to make it look better and that it was something the union wanted in contract, which maybe it was but what about all the other union members not wanting it.
Another good reason NEVER to join a stupid union.
By the way, I am a member and support the Minuteman organization to secure our borders and our work place here in the U.S.

By: Raptor

Raptor — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:19:47 +0000

Going to shock myself, but I actually agree with MH on something! I don’t smoke, but feel that privately owned businesses should be able to make their own decisions regarding smoking. As long as it is clearly posted, anyone entering should be aware of the much vaunted health hazards, and stay out if they don’t want to expose themselves. By the same token, people who smoke would be well advised to not partake in their habit when at businesses that do not allow smoking

For once we don’t have the government regulating every tiny aspect of our lives! Freedom of choice is still alive…not well, but alive!

By: Boxlock

Boxlock — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:14:09 +0000

Chas,
What difference does it make if it only applies to the union.
So if I’m an American citizen and want to belong to the union, but don’t want anything to do with Muslim religious holidays, that becomes mutually exclusive. And that’s okay?
Asinine capitulation.

By: Political_mama

Political_mama — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:09:26 +0000

Smoking bans are STUPID. Stop the insanity.

By: Political_mama

Political_mama — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:08:42 +0000

Planned Parenthood would promote prevention of pregnancy at a children’s event rather than what you speak of jerk and you know it. And we know, we can’t talk about prevention of pregnancy. I know you want those girls breeding as early as they can- even if it ends in the way the second article did.

More of Troy Newman’s objectives being met. Horray for Newman…destroying women’s lives.

By: parkay

parkay — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:03:13 +0000

Planned Parenthood was forced to stay away from “Vallejo Celebrates Youth,” a Californicatia children’s health and wellness event on August 2, after pro-lifers barraged event coordinators with phone calls and e-mails, enforcing a zero tolerance for Planned Parenthood’s racist campaign to sexualize children. The scheduled booth promoting contraceptives and abortion for elementary school children did not appear.
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Andrea Kline, 22, of Flint, MI, who admitted to killing her newborn son in a Watertown, NY hotel in February, 2007, was sentenced Monday morning in Jefferson County court. Kline received one year for a reduced charge of criminally negligent homicide and five years for tampering with physical evidence, to be served concurrently. The baby died of blunt force trauma that caused a skull fracture and bleeding on the brain. Kline claimed that the baby died accidentally when she tried to pull the newborn out of her birth canal, rather than deliberately bashing the boy’s head in, as an autopsy showed.
Kline had been charged with second-degree murder, after the boy’s tiny body was found tossed into a garbage can. This killer will be free in less than one year.

By: Monkeyhawk

Monkeyhawk — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:22:48 +0000

“Chas” suggests –

“…if businesses didnt wish to comply with the smoking ban, and continue the way they currently operate, there would not be sufficient enforcement personnel to cover the entire City…”

You’d think that, but I wouldn’t count on it.

In San Diego they took four cops off of patrol and dedicated them to their smoking patrol.

I dunno. It was something like four $40,000+ salaries they dedicated to finding smokers in bars.

Even though it’s probably a good idea for society to reduce tobacco use, the way government operates doesn’t always get to the goal.

I think people have the right to a smoke-free environment in public buildings — court houses, government buildings, etc. — but when the issue comes down to privately-owned restaurants and bars, I lean toward letting the proprietor call the shots. If you like the lasagna at a restaurant but don’t like smoke, and the guy who runs the Italian restaurant wants to cater to smokers, order out or something. Or find a smoke-free Italian restaurant.

I like a beer and a cig now and then at my neighborhood tavern. I have a hard time thinking that’s worth pulling cops away from dealing with, y’know, crime.

By: earthdoctor

earthdoctor — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:20:43 +0000

July 18,2008

New York Times

WASHINGTON — House Republicans on Thursday blocked a Democratic effort to pressure energy companies into drilling for oil on lands they already leased from the federal government…….

By: Political_mama

Political_mama — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:17:31 +0000

Box I’ve posted many times about how my mom lost her job to illegals moving in when Tyson took over her plant back in the 70’s. It was astounding the few number of years it took from our town to be overrun with illegals.

And not only that but they were shipping in people from US territories to work for cheap.