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Your daily dose of science supporting the established, undeniable fact of evolution.
New Zealand’s ‘Living Dinosaur’ — The Tuatara — Is Surprisingly The Fastest Evolving Animal
ScienceDaily (Mar. 23, 2008) — In a study of New Zealand’s “living dinosaur” the tuatara, evolutionary biologist, and ancient DNA expert, Professor David Lambert and his team from the Allan Wilson Centre for Molecular Ecology and Evolution recovered DNA sequences from the bones of ancient tuatara, which are up to 8000 years old. They found that, although tuatara have remained largely physically unchanged over very long periods of evolution, they are evolving – at a DNA level – faster than any other animal yet examined.
“What we found is that the tuatara has the highest molecular evolutionary rate that anyone has measured,” Professor Lambert says.
The rate of evolution for Adélie penguins, which Professor Lambert and his team have studied in the Antarctic for many years, is slightly slower than that of the tuatara. The tuatara rate is significantly faster than for animals including the cave bear, lion, ox and horse.
“Of course we would have expected that the tuatara, which does everything slowly — they grow slowly, reproduce slowly and have a very slow metabolism — would have evolved slowly. In fact, at the DNA level, they evolve extremely quickly, which supports a hypothesis proposed by the evolutionary biologist Allan Wilson, who suggested that the rate of molecular evolution was uncoupled from the rate of morphological evolution.”
More at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080320120708.htm
McCain campaign is lying about gasoline prices…so what’s new?
All of a sudden there is an endless supply of oil in ANWR….bogus. Why then is the USA oil cartel trying to take control of mideast oil after they were booted out about 40 years ago?
Once again consumers drive the price of all goods based are their willingness to pay what corporate USA decides what the market will bear.
Since when can politicians decide the price of anything?
Doesn’t special interest funding of elections add to the cost of goods? It is after all an expense.
Consumers/voters need to worry more about how campaigns are financed!
Once people wise up and revolt against special interest funding voters will see a dramatic change in government.
Until then McCain commrcials are lying about Obama exactly how Bush lied about Kerry and McCain in previous presidential campaigns.
Neither candidate can control the price of oil or gasoline!!!! It’s up to consumers. Stop buying so much gasoline and find other practical means of getting around for shopping and socializing. Be Smart!
Vote Obama! Vote Obama! Vote Obama!
The Reichtag is alive and well in the Halls of a Pelosi run Congress
Republicans’ Debate in the Dark
08/03/2008
The U. S. House of Representatives is admired and revered around the world. It is often referred to as the most deliberative body in the world, the ‘People’s House’. At the end of each legislative day, every member of the House has the privilege and right to take to the well or podium and ratify with action and validate with deed one of the core dreams of our founding fathers: freedom of speech. Each member may speak for up to five minutes on the topic of their choosing, representing their constituents in the most unadulterated, pure manner — unfiltered First Amendment.
So when confronted with a misguided democrat majority party and Speaker Pelosi — from our perspective and that of the majority of the American people — who ignored the will of the people and adjourned the House for a five week vacation without addressing the most important issue of our day, the rising price of gasoline — we felt it important to organize a number of our colleagues to commit to take advantage of their right and speak for five minutes on this injustice on the final day of this Congressional session until September 8th.
Consequently, last Friday at about 10:45 AM, with the House poised to adjourn, we had nearly 100 members of the Republican conference ready to speak — ready to give breath to our founding document – ready to advocate on behalf of the roughly 700,000 constituents who sent them to Washington. Once Speaker Pelosi and the Democrat leadership got wind of this, they would hear nothing of the sort. True to form, they passed an ultra-partisan adjournment motion, objected to by virtually every Republican member. Its passage would end the ability for anyone to officially speak. Republican leader John Boehner valiantly sought recognition to keep the floor open. But NO — not for this crowd in charge. Steny Hoyer, the Democrat majority leader — moved that the House adjourn, and it was so…
cont’d at:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27857
I addressed that in yesterday’s thread on Brownback and Roberts. We’re done trying to get anything accomplished with you. They’re not grandstanding for you idiot, they’re grandstanding for their oil companies who are making record profits under their policies for the last 7 years before they lose their butts in the elections. They want to secure those profits for the oil companies.
Last-Minute Mischief for Labor
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/04/opinion/04mon3.html?ref=opinion
Published: August 4, 2008
Under the Bush administration, the Department of Labor has shirked its responsibility to upgrade workplace safety. In seven years, it has issued but one major rule change protecting workers against a chemical toxin — and that was forced on it by court order.
Now, it’s taken a giant step beyond benign neglect. Political appointees at the agency have been discovered in a rush to duck public disclosure and jimmy into place a pro-industry rule making it more difficult to limit workers’ exposure to poisonous chemicals.
This latest bit of regulatory sabotage by Bush ideologues was uncovered by The Washington Post after a cryptic, nine-word reference appeared on a White House Web site. It turned out to be a regressive proposal to weaken existing toxin risk standards by larding in an additional round of opportunities to challenge rules, a change that was sought by industry. It also would water down the current standard of measuring accumulated toxin risk across a work career of 45 years.
Forcing Pro-life Doctors Out of Baby Business?
The Goose-Stepping Pro-Choice (cough) crowd is storm-trooping their way through society
Friday, August 01, 2008
By Daniel Patrick Moloney and Peter Reed
Should pro-life doctors and pharmacists be free to practice their profession according to the dictates of their consciences? Should a woman have the freedom to choose an obstetrician or gynecologist she trusts to provide care consistent with her beliefs?
Current federal law says yes. But many women may have that choice greatly restricted, and their doctors driven out of business, if a medical association is able to require that all doctors either perform abortions or make referrals for abortions.
In November 2007, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology (ACOG) announced that the ethical standards of the profession had changed. Its ethics committee stated that an ob/gyn who is unwilling to perform an abortion has an ethical duty to refer the patient to someone who will perform it. If the physician is unable to refer the patient in a timely manner, he would be required to perform the abortion himself.
This decision threatens the livelihood of pro-life doctors. Every ob/gyn who works in a hospital or clinic needs not only a license, but also certification that his skills are up to date and that he is aware of recent developments in the field. To be certified, he must follow the ethical standards of the profession, so under the new ethics policy a pro-life doctor risks losing his certification if his pro-life convictions don’t allow him to perform or cooperate in an abortion. And if he loses his certification, a hospital or clinic won’t let him deliver babies there.
The American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists has labeled the decision “a raw power play to cripple, and ultimately eliminate from practice, those doctors who hold a conscience conviction on the sanctity of human life.” Besides forcing current ob/gyns out of the profession, the policy would make any bright young pro-life student think twice about going to medical school for obstetrics or gynecology.
cont’d at:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,396163,00.html
Reg–
that explains why this Pelosi led Congress has been one of the LEAST productive in years.
Parade.com, Sunday, August 3:
The current Congress has enacted less legislation than any within the last decade, according to a new analysis from the nonpartisan Taxpayers for Common Sense (TCS). The 110th Congress has passed just 260 laws—and 74 of those were renaming post offices. But they have passed hundreds of resolutions, including one to recognize soil as an “essential resource” and another to congratulate the UC-Irvine volleyball team.
Hey capn/beber…
STILL waiting for your documentation for your outrageous slanderous generalizations about how all conservatives want mandatory prayer in schools and how all church shootings are the work of conservatives.
Y’know…if someone made such a stupid comment about all liberals, capn and beber would be spewing forth invective like there was no tomorrow. Yet they post their lies and slink away, without anyone taking them to task.
capn/beber = hypocrites.
We don’t claim Beber. And that would be libel, not slander. Libel is written, Slander is spoken.
I do happen to agree with him that MOST, not all, cons want that.
Obama switches on voting rights
Flip Flop, Flip Flop
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton at a joint rally in Unity, New Hampshire, 27 June 2008
Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton have been making a show of unity in recent weeks
US presidential hopeful Barack Obama has called for delegates from Michigan and Florida to have their voting rights restored at the Democratic convention
They were stripped of those rights when the two states held early primary votes in February, breaking party rules.
Both states were won by Hillary Clinton, who had lobbied fiercely for their representatives to be included.
Mr Obama – who later won enough delegates to secure the nomination – had until now opposed the move.
However in a letter to the party’s credentials committee sent on Sunday, he asked members to reinstate full voting rights for the delegates from Michigan and Florida.
They were originally stripped of these rights, but were given half-votes in a compromise reached at an acrimonious party meeting in May.
The convention, due to be held in Denver from 25 to 27 August, is expected to confirm Mr Obama as the party’s presidential candidate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7540117.stm
Flip Flop, Flip Flop
Flip Flop, Flip Flop
Flip Flop, Flip Flop
Flip Flop, Flip Flop
Obama was ‘agin’ the delegates in MI and FL, now he if ‘fer’ ‘erm.
OK pm….prove it. Show me a consensus. Show me a poll. Show me any kind of proof at all that a majority of conservatives support mandatory school prayer.
You are right, my error on terminology, I always confuse the two.
Hey wait a second. I just posted, and it says my comment is waiting moderation???
Well hallelujah.
Must be only when links are provided. Thing is, if its moderated, and it’ll take all day to be moderated, then we could have 50 posts after that to be buried where nobody will see it.
It seems to me that a lot of democrats mimick the way this congress acts. If you don’t agree with them, they simply say end of discussion, we’re not talking about it anymore. Talk about partisan.
As for the ethics of a doctor. I always felt that saving lives was the ethical thing to do, not kill one. Amazing how far gone things have gone.
Smart move to write that letter asking those delegates be seated! He is a true genius at organization — look at the campaign he is running! Very smart political move and more proof of winning strategy. He knows two states voters shouldn’t be disenfranchised, disappointed or given any reason to look at any other party! Getting elected is his job now and he is proving his superiority to the opposition.
The fear continues among those who try to convince anyone this man doesn’t have experience in leadership. They sure don’t see this kind of political expertise in their candidate! ;-)
McCain continues with his ad campaign that begs people not to admire Obama, not to see him as an inspiring, intelligent leader. The ads whining theme, “Why do you like him sooo much?,” points out the obvious lack of popularity the old man is attracting.
Yes Raptor there appears to be a movement within the GOP that promotes mandatory school prayer
http://www.theocracywatch.org/taking_over.htm#Takes
1991-1993: Religious Right Takes “Working Control” of the Republican Party — Precinct by Precinct, State by State
Journalists attended Christian Coalition and Republican Party events in the early nineties documenting the tactics of the newly formed organization. Reports appeared in newspapers around the country detailing the take over of local Republican Party committees, and efforts by moderate Republicans to form competing entities. Following are some of those articles.
“WITH GOD AS THEIR CO-PILOT” by Joe Conason, Playboy, March, 1993
The rich Republicans of San Antonio’s Bexar County consider themselves very conservative. And they are. But the politics of this new crowd gave them a bad scare. Not long after the Christian rightists staged their coup, the president of the Alamo City Republican Women’s club just gave up and quit.
“The so-called Christian activists have finally gained control,” she explained in her resignation letter, “and the Grand Old Party is more religious cult than political organization.
Next came the Pennsylvania primary … the shock came the next day, when the votes for obscure Republican state committee positions were tallied. From nowhere, conservative Christians had grabbed dozens of seats. The militant newcomers are now close to controlling the Republican Party in Pennsylvania, too.
In June, in the San Diego County towns of Lemon Grove and El Cajon, a slate of “pro-family” Christian right activists financed by a group of conservative businessmen swept the Republican primary for all of the open council seats, along with a slew of state assembly seats. On the same day, several hundred miles to the north in Santa Clara Country, another slate of “biblically oriented” candidates–committed to the death penalty for such sins as homosexuality and abortion–captured 14 of 20 seats on the Republican county central committee. The GOP apparatus in the nation’s most populous state is within a few votes of being absolutely controlled by the Christian right.
Across the nation, in primary after primary, stunned Republican leaders echoed the lament of one longtime party activist in Texas, a personal friend of Barbara Bush, who suddenly found herself ousted by the fundamentalists. “They organized and we didn’t,” she said. “I didn’t think it was going to be this bad.
“The Fifteen Percent Solution: How the Christian Right Is Building From Below To Take Over From Above” by Greg Goldin was originally published in the Nation in 1993. Quoting moderate Republicans from Goldin’s article:
What the Christian right spends a lot of time doing,” says Marc Wolin, a moderate Republican who ran unsuccessfully for Congress from San Francisco last year, “is going after obscure party posts. They try to control the party apparatus in each county. We have a lot to fear from these people. They want to set up a theocracy in America.
According to Craig Berkman, former chairman of the Republican Party in Oregon:
They have acquired a very detailed and accurate understanding of how political parties are organized. Parties are very susceptible to being taken over by ideologues because lower party offices have no appeal to the vast majority of our citizenry. Many precincts are represented by no one. If you decide all of a sudden because it’s your Christian duty to become a precinct representative, you only need a few votes to get elected.
Increasingly, they have the key say-so on who will be a delegate at the national convention, and who will write the party platform and nominate the presidential candidate. In a state like Oregon, with 600,000 registered Republicans, it is possible for 2000 or 3000 people to control the state party apparatus. If they are outvoted by one or two votes, parliamentary manipulations begin, and after two or three hours of discussion about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, the more reasonable people with other things to do leave, and in the wee hours of the morning, things are decided. That’s how they achieve their objectives.
Yesterday on this Thread, the arrest of more than a few pro-life demonstrators from the Maryland “Face The Truth” Tour was lamented.
I don’t know if these arrests were warranted. As I cannot bear the sight of at least one of the images splayed on their posters, I could not have been there. Because I could not have remained calm. “If you cannot avoid sin,” a wise priest once told me, “avoid the occasion of sin.”
I do not believe this picture is an image of abortion. I believe it is a truthful image. It is a wrenching image that should not induce apathy. But it cannot be indicative of 90% of abortions. It is an impossibility. It it were indicative, my Catholic high school, whose administration was to the far right of the Pope, would have made it available. Seven months after my abortion, I viewed one of these films during my senior religion class. I knew I was attending a Catholic high school; I knew its views. I listened – and observed – respectfully. And I was terrifically upset.
And what I saw did not resemble this poor, tragic child in any way, shape or form.
But that’s not the only murkiness pervading these folks’ website (http://defendlife.org/). Get a load of these pearls of Christlike wisdom and mercy:
“If young pro-life families…..do nothing but raise and properly educate large families, while pro-aborts continue to abort their children, it won’t be long before we soon out-populate the pro-aborts and win by default.”
Wow! Is this a shining example of “love thy neighbor” or WHAT?????
First of all, these folks are Catholic, if my perceptions are correct. I believe they probably need a crash course in papal encyclicals on this matter. Not even Pope Paul, in Humanae Vitae, demanded that Catholics have large families. Rather, he decreed that only licit methods (the methods he deems licit, of course) may be used to
“responsibly” plan the spacing of children.
Moreover, perhaps these young papists need to read – and re-read – “The Gospel of Life” (1995) from the late Pope John Paul II. The truth and beauty pervading his text, even if I cannot accept it in totality – at all times – is a stark contrast to the verbiage on the “Defend Life” site.
I’m a much older woman now than I used to be; as such, my knowledge of a whole lotta things is probably broader that it used to be. Succinctly, I can’t imagine the disdain these two 20th century popes would have incurred had they championed the deaths of “pro-aborts.”
“It is not good for her to be alone,” the late John Paul II stated. It probably wasn’t a good thing for me to be alone last month. But talking with folks like this would have turned my stomach. It would have a farcical exercise – for everyone involved.
I tried to brush this s–t off. I tried to remind myself that its speakers during this latest event likely blew Randall Terry out of the water. But I’m not really very sympathetic to their latest plight.
Why? Because I don’t believe them.
We reap what we sow. That, to be sure, is one biblical passage that doesn’t induce nausea. Perhaps these God-loving Christians need to be reminded of this admonition. Quickly.
Annie…
Does that say ALL? As claimed by beber/capn? Does it say MOST as claimed by pmom? Nope. Just that there are some radicals with an agenda.
Once again, I ask for a simple proof that ALL or even MOST of conservatives demand mandatory prayer in school as has been claimed. Without that proof, we can just assume it is more hate speech from the extremists with no basis in fact.
Annie…a Playboy article from 1993 (15 years ago????) does not prove that ALL or MOST conservatives demand mandatory prayer in public schools.
Who’s paying for Inga Taylor’s campaign? HINT: Mostly not Kansans.
The Eagle does not seem to think that Inga Taylor’s 84th District campaign getting tens of thousands of dollars from out of state (well over 90% of her money) and having legions of professional out-of-state campaigners sent by a Washington DC PAC to stump door-to-door for her is news.
I guess the voters just have no “need to know” about such things as far as the Eagle is concerned.
Raptor, your playing word games.
Are all Muslims evil? Did Saddam represent all Iraqi people? Are all liberals, socialist tree hugging carbon credit trading dope smoking smelly hippies who hate Amerikia corporations God oppose the war love killing babies want UN troops to take over the country to further their liberal commie agenda?
Wingnut radio says we are. Sorry Raptor some of the comments heard here are simply part of the backlash.
When a newbie shows up to complain about an issue that happens in both parties, odds are…its the person Inga is running against.
I’m not even from Wichita and I’d go campaign for her.
Word games???
Beber, 8/3 at 8:58AM…”Cons would love public educationis (sic) mass mandatory prayer was part of it”.
That is a pretty inclusive statement–without any attempt to provide a basis in fact.
Capn, 8/1, 1:08PM “On the other hand, people that shooup up churches are always CONs, aren’t they?”
Again…total generalization that I am asking beber/capn for backup–and there has been no response at all. Typical hate speech from extremists.
no, Annie..I am not playing word games at all. I am simply asking that the extremists either backup their ridiculous claims or admit they made them up (which, of course, will never happen).
This survey (and I can’t attest to its methodology) indicates that a strong majority of citizens support school prayer – even the non-religious. Those identifying themselves as “born-again” nearly unamiously support voluntary school prayer:
“Survey results revealed that 98 percent of born-again Americans compared to 81 percent of those not born again believe voluntary student-led prayer at public school events, such as football games or graduation ceremonies, should be legal. Also, 97 percent of born agains believe the law should support religious groups renting public property for meetings if non-religious groups are allowed to do so while 86 percent of not born again Americans agree. And 94 percent of born agains say a teacher wearing a religious symbol, such as a Star of David or a cross, during class should be legal compared to 85 percent of not born people.”
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080111/study-most-americans-support-school-prayers-religious-displays.htm
The survey’s n = 1007 – not sure what the margin of error would be for the subgroups.
Really, P-mama? How many other state house seats in Kansas are currently being BOUGHT with tens of thousands in outsider money?
Name ONE.
Out of state money BUYING seats in our legislalture is NEWS. Except to the Eagle.
So, Raptor, you are going to start calling out the hate speech from the extreme far right? Somehow, I did not think so. :)
Face it raptor, even if you’re not a fundy, most of those that represent you are. It isn’t my fault the radicals keep convincing you to vote them in.
FF, someone posted ‘the rest of’ parkay’s story on that thread. You should go read it. You have to know, Parkay ALWAYS lies. Like Walmart- Always.
What is it you are asking for Raptor?
Special dispensation?
Sort out the worse among you and yours from the less bad?
“Cons are people too!”?
Thanks. No.
Yes Steven…I have and I will. In my opinion only, the extremist hate speech from either side is counterproductive, juvenile, and leads only to more bickering and ridiculous statements like the ones I posted above.
The extremists from both sides might be the loudest, but I sincerely hope they do not represent any type of consensus of either side.
And P-Mom…since you have no idea how I have voted, your statement of “…radicals keep convincing you to vote them in.” has no basis in fact and is a complete fabrication.
bj….i am asking for proof/backup of the outrageous statements by beber/capn. And they are not forthcoming. I want capn to back up his asinine remark of how all church shooters are cons.
I think I was pretty clear in asking for that, bj…your reading comprehension skills lacking today?
“I have and I will. In my opinion only, the extremist hate speech from either side is counterproductive, juvenile, and leads only to more bickering and ridiculous statements like the ones I posted above”
Raptor most of us would agree with you. The blog is a place to vent. The Eagle provides us a with a place to bit@h and moan, thanks for the forum guys. Don’t take what is said here personally.
Well Raptor what I am getting is…
“We’re not so bad!”
And my opinion is, you are.
Let us pray…
You must be reading something I am not writing then, bj. I asked for some kind of objective evidence of a totally ridiculous claim. Simple.
“Really, P-mama? How many other state house seats in Kansas are currently being BOUGHT with tens of thousands in outsider money?
Name ONE.
Out of state money BUYING seats in our legislalture is NEWS. Except to the Eagle.”
heheheheheheh!
Uh, isnt that the same WHINE used by bon bon’s folks against Raj?
out of state money for repukes = good
out of state money for Taylor = bad
Got it!
…and I wonder how many of these same folks whining about out of state money contribute to groups that try to influence elections in other states? Like the K of C in California trying to promote their hate amendment regarding marriage? Or the anti choice folks in every state?
Give me a freakin’ break.
Sometimes, the hypocrisy is just STUNNING!
On a different note, the Memorial service yesterday for the Knoxville, TN, church was simply profound. Nice music. Nice words. Challenging words. Hopeful words. Peace words. Would that such a climate of peaceful hope and reconciliation could permeate more of our society.
Its not my fault if the out-of-state republicans think that you’re expendable and didn’t give you any money.
I wonder how many out of state monies ole Ryun is going to garner since Boyda stole the seat. I’ll remember to make a big issue of it as if I’m shocked.
Now, has anyone else noted the increase in republicans on the message boards? Seems someone has told them if they want to hold onto seats, they better get busy lying and all those things cons do.
Here’s the Republic Party message this election cycle –
THE DEMOCRATS!
They’re just as bad as we are!!!
except we’re not
“Political_mama” –
I didn’t say the Republic Party would resort to honesty.
It’s not part of their agenda.
THE DEMOCRATS
They’re NOT us! They are taking all the fans away, their popularity is just just just — NOT FAIR!
It starts at the top with that energetic intelligent charismatic well spoken well educated inspiring guy who draws huge crowds everywhere he goes! We need to get our old man McCain to enjoy those big audiences! Let’s get Obama to share those crowds. It’s just NOT FAIR that he is so popular!
For a change of pace, on a prior Open Thread, a poster was discussing national education standards and proffered an example of McDonalds, one point being what if McDonalds in Bangor ME offered lobster. While I understand the point being made, in fact, I observed a McDonalds in Bangor, ME, offering, in June, 2004, a “McLobster Value Meal” for $4.95 (contained a small chunk of lobster tail meat, IIRC). The menu was otherwise like any other McDonalds I had ever visited.
Applying this to the national educational standards discussion, this would be akin to a local school board offering an additional, more localized choice to the students, to supplement that which would otherwise be required under a national standard; not in place thereof, but in addition thereto, a good thing on both accounts.
VT – in Amsterdam I found a place that sole herring tacos.
“avtolle” shares –
“…I observed a McDonalds in Bangor, ME, offering, in June, 2004, a “McLobster Value Meal” for $4.95″
Now that you remind me, I remember that McDonalds! I was there. I was in the ad bidness and McDonald’s was one of our clients. We were socked in by fog after stopping at Bangor International Airport to refuel so we rented a car to get something to eat. Turns out lobster is like chicken in Bangor, Maine. Every place that sells food in Bangor sells lobster.
You couldn’t do business in Bangor without serving lobster, apparently. Perhaps it was the law.
Damnedest thing: The best lobster bisque I’ve ever had was served in a Styrofoam cup in a WWII-vintage hangar at Bangor International Airport. Some mom-and-pop place had the franchise.
But you got my point.
Senator Obama’s Energy Plan:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/factsheet_energy_speech_080308.pdf
I won’t summarize… read it for yourself.
Fed faces a quandry as it tries to deal with stagflation:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/04/markets/thebuzz/index.htm?postversion=2008080411
Suspect killed in robbery at Houston family’s business
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5922041.html
Gunfire broke out during a holdup at a family-owned roofing company early Sunday, leaving one attempted robber dead and the business owner seriously wounded, Houston police said.
Bank customer shoots man in attempted robbery
http://www.kansascity.com/116/story/731000.html
A bank customer shot another man who apparently was attempting to rob him about 9 a.m. today, police said.
Yep, MonkeyHawk, I think it is almost a state law in Maine (lobster on the menu) and it is as omnipresent as chicken. Too bad you and your colleagues didn’t have your meal at Governor’s (right across the road); you could have watched the electric train run around the top of the dining room…
Yes, Ben, and to me a totally predictable quandary. To me, the best for the economy might well be a rate hike in October; that course of action would show independence for sure.
The only thing I remember about Bangor Maine is landing there when our aircraft had engine problems. We just flown from South Carolina where the air conditioning had stopped on the plane and we sat sweating for about three hours until it was fixed.
We we arrived at Bangor, we disembarked the aircraft, traversed across the tarmac (without coats) and I remember my mustache being frozen from the icy rain by the time we got to the terminal building.
AP
Democrat Barack Obama called today for tapping the nation’s strategic oil reserves to help drive down gasoline prices, a shift from his previous position on the issue
flip flop
flip flop
flip flop
flip flop
Well…okay, I will be looking for Tyson food products and COMPLETELY AVOIDING THEM.
I will go without before purchasing any Tyson chicken or anything else for that matter.
This Un-American crap must stop.
Tennessee Plant Drops Labor Day For Muslim Holiday…
Tyson Plant Drops Labor Day For Muslim Holiday Eid al-Fitr.
Link: http://www.wsmv.com/news/17063986/detail.html#-
Contact Tyson Foods and let them know this capitulation is completely unacceptable.
Contact Link: http://www.tyson.com/Corporate/Contact/Contact.aspx
http://www.kansas.com/197/story/482185.html
I exepect that the wheels of justice won’t roll very quickly to solve this one. couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of folks
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=176740
good news from the decider
Raptor I belive McCain also did the exact same Flip flop
Terrible! A candidate is moderating and revising a position after further study.
“http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/obama-proposes.html”
“Obama will propose swapping light oil for heavy oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve…
Obama’s new proposal was recently decided on, after looking over similar swaps in the past which demonstrated the ability to bring costs down…”
So he gets a pat on the back from all sides now? He still maintains that the reserves are to be saved for true national emergencies, like if the whole world decides to turn off the tap for us….
yeah, annie! just needs congressional authority. and he’s never steered us wrong in the past. uh huh. Well, at least Stewart makes it sound funny, even when we all know it isn’t.
Thanks for sharing! When you post a link I know I’m going to enjoy it or at least learn something.
Oh Sure Box, you complain that they’re celebrating what their employees celebrate, yet you’ve said not a DANG thing about them hiring all those illegals over Americans.
That’s what is UNAMERICAN. I swear you freaks are so ignorant.
Pmom, I think boxie is gonna get real hungry, what with cons and wingnuts boycotting McDonalds and Tyson and whatever other food companies dont conform to their con agenda.
Oh well. If they are forced to shop at farmers markets, that’s more business for me.
Except, I dont think they like the “gay agenda” either. Sucks to be them.
But on the bright side, they should be losing weight!
McDonalds Europe, McDonald’s Asia, they all have different local standards. McDonalds Global oversees all the different locations, then the locations break down. My cousin works for McDonald’s Europe- his job is to ensure the standards are being met…but that doesn’t mean the menus are the same.
Thanks Linda,
But you are guilty of the same thing keep posting interesting tidbits and brain food.
i am asking for proof/backup of the outrageous statements by beber/capn.
Then I’d like proof/backup of the outragious statements by regular/franklin. Each and every one of them. And have fun digging them all up. Working backward is fine.
Fair enough?
Sorry.
outragious=outrageous
dyslexic fingers again.
P_mama posts:
“Oh Sure Box, you complain that they’re celebrating what their employees celebrate, yet you’ve said not a DANG thing about them hiring all those illegals over Americans.”
There is nothing in the article about them being illegal, so how do you know they are, and then accuse me of not saying anything against that.
Show me they are illegal then I’ll complain, but not until.
farmer, are your chickens gay? I didn’t think so.
Interesting!
Study: Illegal Aliens Are Leaving the U.S.
“Amid alarmed cries that the illegal immigration problem is spiraling out of control, the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. has actually declined since last summer — and many who have left have returned home on their own.
A report by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), based on Census Bureau data, estimates that the illegal immigrant population in the U.S. has gone down by 11 percent through May after peaking in August 2007.
That means the illegal population has declined 1.3 million since last summer, from 12.5 million to 11.2 million.
“The estimated decline of the illegal population is at least seven times larger than the number of illegal aliens removed by the government in the last 10 months, so most of the decline is due to illegal immigrants leaving the country on their own,” the report asserts.
The CIS maintains that stepped-up enforcement rather than the sluggish economy is leading to the decline in illegal aliens, which began before there was a significant rise in their unemployment rate.
The report points out that the fenced portion of the U.S. border has increased significantly in the past 18 months, the number of Border Patrol agents has more than doubled in recent years, and the number of detention beds used to hold illegals has more than doubled since 2000.
According to the CIS, the evidence “indicates that illegal immigrants respond to changing incentives and that many would return home on their own if they felt enforcement was a real possibility.”
The CIS also notes that when Congress failed to pass legislation last summer that would legalize illegal immigrants, the illegal alien population began to decline almost immediately.
If that decline were to be sustained, the illegal population would drop by one half in the next five years, according to the CIS.
The organization concludes: “It is sometimes argued that illegal immigrants are so permanently attached to their lives in the United States that no amount of enforcement would ever make a large share of them return to their home countries. The findings of this report . . . contradict that.”
The Christian Science Monitor in an editorial attributes the “success story” disclosed by the CIS study to “Washington’s wake-up call last summer to beef up enforcement, from plugged leaks in the border to cracking down on employers who hired illegal workers.”
The Monitor adds, “John McCain only reluctantly came around to the ‘enforcement first’ idea last year while Barack Obama opposes it. Perhaps this study will make them true converts.”
The ‘Cons’ were right all along, as usual. Enforcement and a more secure border works.
I think Boxy forgot to include something in his/her Tyson Rant…. Something like, for instance, THIS >>>>
“The decision will only apply to workers at the plant who are union members. All other employees at the plant will still have their normal Labor Day holiday.”
Predestined…if you had read my entire post you would see my request is not a global request for proof of everything said since the beginning of the blog. Rather a simple and specific request for two unsubstantiated comments that were tossed out as fact when they are simply inflammatory statements.
Both statements seemed to follow the George Lincoln Rockwell line of “discussion”–say something totally outrageous just to get a reaction.
City Officials Unveil Smoking Ordinance Campaign
Date: August 4, 2008
Contact: Communications Team
Phone: (316) 268-4351
“It’s here. It’s the law. It’s effective Sept.4”
City of Wichita officials today launched a public-education campaign regarding the Wichita smoking ordinance, which takes effect Sept. 4.
“Businesses and residents are encouraged to become knowledgeable about the ordinance, so they are in compliance with the law,” said Mayor Carl Brewer, who joined several city officials at the City Hall news conference, which can be viewed later at http://www.wichita.gov. “Act now. It’s here. It’s the law. It’s effective Sept.4.”
The ordinance requires that businesses post signage and obtain the necessary permits related to the new smoking restrictions. The signage and additional information also can be found at http://www.wichita.gov. The additional information includes:
* A “Frequently Asked Questions” sheet
* A “Quick Fact” sheet
* An informational brochure
* A two-page summary specifically for affected businesses
* The Wichita smoking ordinance
* A fact-sheet regarding the dangers of secondhand smoke
* A 30-second video
The thought occurs to me that if businesses didnt wish to comply with the smoking ban, and continue the way they currently operate, there would not be sufficient enforcement personnel to cover the entire City…
I would suspect that at some point, business owners are going to figure that out… :roll:
Box I’ve posted many times about how my mom lost her job to illegals moving in when Tyson took over her plant back in the 70’s. It was astounding the few number of years it took from our town to be overrun with illegals.
And not only that but they were shipping in people from US territories to work for cheap.
July 18,2008
New York Times
WASHINGTON — House Republicans on Thursday blocked a Democratic effort to pressure energy companies into drilling for oil on lands they already leased from the federal government…….
“Chas” suggests –
“…if businesses didnt wish to comply with the smoking ban, and continue the way they currently operate, there would not be sufficient enforcement personnel to cover the entire City…”
You’d think that, but I wouldn’t count on it.
In San Diego they took four cops off of patrol and dedicated them to their smoking patrol.
I dunno. It was something like four $40,000+ salaries they dedicated to finding smokers in bars.
Even though it’s probably a good idea for society to reduce tobacco use, the way government operates doesn’t always get to the goal.
I think people have the right to a smoke-free environment in public buildings — court houses, government buildings, etc. — but when the issue comes down to privately-owned restaurants and bars, I lean toward letting the proprietor call the shots. If you like the lasagna at a restaurant but don’t like smoke, and the guy who runs the Italian restaurant wants to cater to smokers, order out or something. Or find a smoke-free Italian restaurant.
I like a beer and a cig now and then at my neighborhood tavern. I have a hard time thinking that’s worth pulling cops away from dealing with, y’know, crime.
Planned Parenthood was forced to stay away from “Vallejo Celebrates Youth,” a Californicatia children’s health and wellness event on August 2, after pro-lifers barraged event coordinators with phone calls and e-mails, enforcing a zero tolerance for Planned Parenthood’s racist campaign to sexualize children. The scheduled booth promoting contraceptives and abortion for elementary school children did not appear.
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Andrea Kline, 22, of Flint, MI, who admitted to killing her newborn son in a Watertown, NY hotel in February, 2007, was sentenced Monday morning in Jefferson County court. Kline received one year for a reduced charge of criminally negligent homicide and five years for tampering with physical evidence, to be served concurrently. The baby died of blunt force trauma that caused a skull fracture and bleeding on the brain. Kline claimed that the baby died accidentally when she tried to pull the newborn out of her birth canal, rather than deliberately bashing the boy’s head in, as an autopsy showed.
Kline had been charged with second-degree murder, after the boy’s tiny body was found tossed into a garbage can. This killer will be free in less than one year.
Planned Parenthood would promote prevention of pregnancy at a children’s event rather than what you speak of jerk and you know it. And we know, we can’t talk about prevention of pregnancy. I know you want those girls breeding as early as they can- even if it ends in the way the second article did.
More of Troy Newman’s objectives being met. Horray for Newman…destroying women’s lives.
Smoking bans are STUPID. Stop the insanity.
Chas,
What difference does it make if it only applies to the union.
So if I’m an American citizen and want to belong to the union, but don’t want anything to do with Muslim religious holidays, that becomes mutually exclusive. And that’s okay?
Asinine capitulation.
Going to shock myself, but I actually agree with MH on something! I don’t smoke, but feel that privately owned businesses should be able to make their own decisions regarding smoking. As long as it is clearly posted, anyone entering should be aware of the much vaunted health hazards, and stay out if they don’t want to expose themselves. By the same token, people who smoke would be well advised to not partake in their habit when at businesses that do not allow smoking
For once we don’t have the government regulating every tiny aspect of our lives! Freedom of choice is still alive…not well, but alive!
P_mama,
I do remember you saying something about that now. I am sorry for your mother and anybody that loses their job to illegals.
None the less, there was nothing in the article said about the Somalis being illegal, though that may be a fair assumption.
If so I hope this attention puts the Feds/INS, on them like a stink that can’t be washed off.
FYI, I emailed Tyson corporate and got a reply, not a form reply either, like in 20 minutes. They were all over themselves trying to make it look better and that it was something the union wanted in contract, which maybe it was but what about all the other union members not wanting it.
Another good reason NEVER to join a stupid union.
By the way, I am a member and support the Minuteman organization to secure our borders and our work place here in the U.S.
Raptor,
Same with me on the smoking issue.
I don’t smoke, can’t stand to be around it but government has no place dictating to private business about a legal product.
Now, because you so painfully reminded me that is in agreement with the Monkey….I’m going to take a bath with lye soap to feel clean again.
PS Raptor,
I had to read your post to know that as I don’t read the Monkey’s but scroll over them anymore.
“Yes Steven…I have and I will. In my opinion only, the extremist hate speech from either side is counterproductive, juvenile, and leads only to more bickering and ridiculous statements like the ones I posted above.”
Hard to see how anyone could argue with that.
Another thought on the survey I posted at 9:19 which showed that most people, religious and otherwise, did not mind school prayer: That finding seems to blow a whole in the conservative meme that the religious are victims of discrimination. If that survey is even remotely correct, they are not.
“blow a hole” nor “blow a whole” – and I am NOT saying anymore on that. :)
nor = not – dyslexic fingers, indeed.
McCain announces Running Mate
Hillary Rodham Clinton
…news at eleven
Fact is usually overridden by the law. ” I don’t think so, but this year we’ve had more bets on The Monitor than usual. This is generally known as the way.
Boxlock
Posted August 4, 2008 at 5:14 pm | Permalink
Chas,
What difference does it make if it only applies to the union.
So if I’m an American citizen and want to belong to the union, but don’t want anything to do with Muslim religious holidays, that becomes mutually exclusive. And that’s okay?
Asinine capitulation.
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Hmmmm Now BOXY questions the citizenship of the Moslems??? Upthread, you argued that you didnt KNOW if they are, or are not illegals…. IF they are citizens, then citizenship has nothing to do with your argument….
Your ORIGINAL gripe was that the Tyson people had done away with Labor Day as a Holiday…. which it obviously has not done… As usual, you try to create a situation that does not exist….
And I am calling you on that —–
“Your ORIGINAL gripe was that the Tyson people had done away with Labor Day as a Holiday…. which it obviously has not done… As usual, you try to create a situation that does not exist….”
Yes, they have done away with Labor Day for Union members, Muslim or not, and substituted Eid al-Fitr. If you desire to be a member of the union, Muslim or not, you will get Eid al-Fitr and NOT Labor Day.
And quite frankly I do question the citizenship of the Somalis in this situation, though I admit, and said something earlier about the article not saying anything about them being illegal. It will be interesting if the Feds/INS take a look at this Tyson plant…I hope they do
“Upthread, you argued that you didnt KNOW if they are, or are not illegals…. IF they are citizens, then citizenship has nothing to do with your argument….”
But Citizenship DOES have everything to do with the ability to be a member of the union and still recognize American holidays and not Muslim religious holidays. You dummy!!!
Tyson should ideally have just added the Moslem holiday, for union members… and left Labor Day intact…
“Tyson should ideally have just added the Moslem holiday, for union members… and left Labor Day intact…”
Chas,
For once in a very great while you and I can agree.
And…for some reason, I question my sanity now, I like that.
Gee, Raptor, I’m sorry. Of course a con has never said ANYTHING outrageous on this blog just to get a reaction. (cough cough republican cough cough)
My bad.
“Of course a con has never said ANYTHING outrageous on this blog just to get a reaction. (cough cough republican cough cough).”
Check it out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=1&ref=magazine&oref=slogin
It (regular) is not hard to figure out, with a little effort.
Good night; Good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
Blessed be!!
BTW Steven Davis, your goat is still tied up at Harry and Oliver.
(chortles)