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The nutters may want to sue me for telling the truth but the irrefutable fact of evolution will still remain.
Tahitian Vanilla Originated In Maya Forests, Says Botanist
ScienceDaily (Aug. 25, 2008) — The origin of the Tahitian vanilla orchid, whose cured fruit is the source of the rare and highly esteemed gourmet French Polynesian spice, has long eluded botanists. Known by the scientific name Vanilla tahitensis, Tahitian vanilla is found to exist only in cultivation; natural, wild populations of the orchid have never been encountered.
Now, a team of investigators led by Pesach Lubinsky, a postdoctoral researcher with Norman Ellstrand, a professor of genetics in UC Riverside’s Department of Botany and Plant Sciences, claims to have traced Tahitian vanilla back to its true origins.
In the August issue of the American Journal of Botany, Lubinsky and colleagues use genetic and ethnohistoric analysis to argue that Tahitian vanilla began its evolutionary journey as a pre-Columbian Maya cultivar inside the tropical forests of Guatemala.
More at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080821164558.htm
Woman admits beating, killing of 19-month-old was intentional
BY RON SYLVESTER
The Wichita Eagle
A 25-year-old Wichita woman admitted Friday that she beat a 19-month-old boy she was baby-sitting, intending to kill him.
Heidi Dieball pleaded guilty to second-degree intentional murder before Sedgwick County District Judge Ben Burgess.
Dieball also pleaded guilty to two counts of child abuse.
She said during her plea that she beat Andrew Haga twice while left alone with him in January. Then she said she administered a third beating to kill the toddler.
Andrew had been left with Dieball, his mother’s roommate, as she left for the night.
Prosecutor Kevin O’Connor told the judge that the autopsy results on Andrew were consistent with Dieball’s account.
County medical examiner Jaime Oeberst had reported that Andrew had at least 24 bruises on his head and multiple bruises on his chest, hips and stomach.
Oeberst determined that Andrew died of head injuries.
Because Dieball, originally charged with first-degree murder, pleaded to the lesser charge, she will face about 19 years in prison instead of a life sentence.
Burgess set sentencing for Oct. 24.
WTF? 19 years for admitting you murdered a child?
The bi*** ought to be executed or locked so deep in a hole they would have to pump sunshine to her
Does anyone find it ironic that the conservatives on Weblog ranted for months that Kathleen Sebelius and Barak Obama were inexperienced to be the Prez and VP choices. Along comes Palin and they instantly shout that she is highly experienced and a great candidate.
Sebelius, elected to the Kansas House in 1986, elected as Insurance Commissioner in 1994, elected as governor in 2002. Twenty-two years of experience.
Palin, combine her term as mayor and governor and you have five years experience. Perhaps if you throw in her time in the PTA.
Republicans, showing once again they have no integrity. Now I’ll get some threats of lawsuits for posting this.
I’m not a republican or a democrat but can I still threaten to sue you?
Free, I agree with you. What the hell 19 years is ridiculous. She should have gotten life. Or worse.
What the heck is wrong here. I realize that it was probably a plea, but come on.
Palin is not the choice of women who support women.
“I’m not a republican or a democrat but can I still threaten to sue you?”
Absolutely Freebird, I’m been threatened to be sued over 10 times now. Your addition would be quite welcome.
Instresting story about dogs from New Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/mg19926700.200-dogs-arent-stupid-wolves-they-are-much-smarter.html
Basically concludes dogs are evolving behaviors by being with us; but says nothing about what behaviors we have evolved by being with dogs. Dog and man are examples of a co-evolved species. I’ve suspected for a long time that neither would be what they are without the other. Get on it Maggotpunk, so we may be enlightened.
Consider yourself threatened. I’ll worry about what for later.
I wonder if this is a case where the judge doesn’t have to accept the plea deal and sentence outside the guidlines? If he can he should.
Yes Beber, you make a great point. Many species have co-evolved through a symbiotic relationship. The greatest example can be or bee seen with the relationship of flowers to other organisms. Bees, hummingbirds, etc are needed to pollinate flowers. Those species which can better be pollinated have an increased chance of reproductive success. Those bees that pollinate have a good source of food and can survive to reproduce (well, the queen does anyway).
Evolution through cooperation destroys that myth creationists like to create that survival of the fittest must mean eliminating all opposition. Many species thrive through cooperation and through that cooperation they are able to reproduce and evolve. Those who refuse to cooperation in a society leave their genes out of the gene pool.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/opinion/30sat1.html
Another view on Mass health care.
“Consider yourself threatened. I’ll worry about what for later.”
Well I am violating the law by having three political bumperstickers on my car. Perhaps you could sue me about that.
Ok,I get dibs on that one. maybe after i winb the suit I can retire.
I’m a government employee, I doubt you’ll be able to retire on my salary.
We may even be human because of dogs.
Maybe not but it might be a start.
Some dogs act more human than some people. You may be on to something
Beber:
“We may even be human because of dogs.”
You know what they say about owners looking like their dogs, or is that the other way around? I don’t know for certain but those who have domesticated the dog probably had a greater chance of survival seeing that they aid in hunting. The ability for dogs like the Aussie shephard to corral animals could be based upon a learned trait where its ancestors corralled game that was hunted.
Drunks and Political Mom; no mercy.
How does it feel to have that much hate? Yes I’m a drunk but not a practicing one,I’m in a recovery program and you act like someone on a dry drunk in need of a program. I tried to converse with you but I see it’s like talking to a wall. Have a nice life
Beber,I can admit to being a drunk,can you admit to being a complete asshole?
I suspect we learned our “humanity” from the animals Maggot Punk. Remember how animals serve practically as text books and form the folk lore of primitive societies. And imagine if you would, the mutation which propelled us from grunting animals into creatures capable of doing anything. Yet a human being is born almost empty. Where could we have turned to learn? And the answer is the animals, the original Bible, and whose lessons are still scattered through it.
My God, when ever anything happens, people like Freebird are perched like crows on the parafet, screaming for blood. Just what in your past makes you so superior that you can pass judgement? Please.
Wasn’t passing judgment just my opinion. Which is no more or less valid than yours
And what is it your past that makes you superior? Please.
What is a parafet?
Beber, Seriously doesn’t it outrage you that this woman admitted to intentionally killing this child and is only going to serve 19 years?
parapet
no, it doesn’t outrage me at all. I don’t know the circumstances. And 19 years is a hell of a long time. Our country is one of the few in the world that would have made her do 19.
“Freebird1971″ –
I dunno. 19 years in the pen doesn’t sound like a day at the beach.
Trials are expensive. And every contested trial generates appeals and review and consumes huge amounts of money and time and resources. And there’s always a chance of something going awry. (Does anyone else remember the Bill Butterworth trial?)
Would it be that much of an improvement if she were sentenced to 20-to-life after an expensive trial with the potential for mistrial, errors, and appeals? An extra year?
This way she has no grounds for appeal, gets carted off to the pokey immediately and for a long time.
Fair? Maybe not quite.
Justice? Pretty close for government work.
It seems my new whizz bang Word Perfect spelling program says it changes the world, but doesn’t really. Second time it’s happened to me in two days. Oh well, I don’t mind admitting I came from a pig farm, and my pig farmer slip shows sometimes. I can’t spell and I’m horribly affected by homonyms, and inversions. Since I’ve suffered so in that regard, I enjoy catching such errors in what others write, especially if a wrong word produces more truth than the one intended.
Cindy McC*nt just said on ABC that the GILF “…has foreign policy experience because Alaska is up there close to Russia.”
How ignorant!
Everyone knows Alaska is in the Pacific Ocean southwest of California in an inset between the Lower 48 and Hawaii.
Soo..does that make Alaska the 57th state?
It’s plain to see that McCain and his neoconservative party do not know this Palin woman at all and the baggage she brings with her.
I say Palin has become a distraction from the issues which may have been the objective.
LET’S TALK ABOUT OBAMA and the real issues facing all of us:
*Mideast military action in general
*HR 676 National Health Insurance ( our vets really need HR 676)(JohnConyers will be in the KC area once again soon)
*New Industry for the USA that creates new USA wealth and millions of jobs
*Using less oil not drilling and continued use of more
*Not throwing Social Security dollars to Wall Street
* STOP spying on americans
* More funding for public and higher education
http://i.imwx.com/images/maps/tropical/map_tropprjpath07_ltst_5nhato_enus_600×405.jpg
could be an interesting week in the gulf
I need to thank whoever it was on this blog that posted the covered up story about a federal filing in Pennsylvania adverse to the One.
Here is the Africa press doing it justice: http://www.thezimbabwetimes.com/?p=3075
Too bad the US press is so very deep in the tank on this subject!
It is all on my blog now. Thanks again for the tip, whoever it was.
McCain & Palin Rush To Gulf Coast To…Do Something
It wasn’t enough that the president Republican nominee jumped headfirst into the Russia/Georgia crisis, going so far as to dispatch his Secretary of State Senators Lieberman and Graham to Georgia on his behalf.
No, now, as Hurricane Gustav roars towards the U.S., the Republican president nominee and his newly minted Vice-President running mate are rushing down to Gulf Coast to…well, do something:
Given that, well, the real President isn’t heading down there, and since I suspect the Governor of Alaska and the Senator from Arizona probably don’t have a lot by way of hurricane disaster relief to offer, one would think that this trip were nothing more than a photo opportunity aimed at demonstrating that the former mayor of Wasilla, Alaska can at least exude the aura of a federally elected official, while proving that McCain can understand how scared someone can be about losing their one and only home…if he tries really, really hard.
But really, McCain has already told us what he would do when another natural disaster hit the U.S. He wouldn’t laugh on the tarmac holding a giant birthday cake. No, nature has given McCain a mulligan, and he’s going to take advantage of it, dammit. McCain and Palin will rush bottled hot water to dehydrated babies, because that’s what presidents and vice-presidents do in times like these. Now smile for the cameras.
http://www.dailykos.com/
John Stewart on the Daily Show played a clip of a Fox News anchor saying with a straight face that (paraphrasing) Palin has a lot of foreign relations experience because Alaska is right next door to Russia —–
she belongs on the McCain losing ticket
McCain = Bush only dumber
Monkeyhawk
Posted August 31, 2008 at 8:21 am | Permalink
Cindy McC*nt just said on ABC that the GILF “…has foreign policy experience because Alaska is up there close to Russia.”
How ignorant!
Everyone knows Alaska is in the Pacific Ocean southwest of California in an inset between the Lower 48 and Hawaii.
Monkeyhawk
Posted August 31, 2008 at 8:21 am | Permalink
Cindy McC*nt just said on ABC that the GILF “…has foreign policy experience because Alaska is up there close to Russia.”
How ignorant!
Everyone knows Alaska is in the Pacific Ocean southwest of California in an inset between the Lower 48 and Hawaii.
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Hilarious! It is during all of my weathercasts!
Forget the fact that she did negotiate a $28billion dollar natural gas pipeline deal thru a foreign country. Granted, Canada is not exactly hostile territory. However, no small feat considering the failed policies of the Bush Administration have the entire planet against the United States. (tongue firmly in cheek).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/18/mccain-proud-his-advisers_n_119583.html
Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain told USA TODAY on Sunday that he has no problem with his top foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann’s past lobbying work.
The fighting between Russia and Georgia has brought renewed attention to Scheunemann and the lobbying firm he founded, Orion Strategies, which received more than $730,000 from Georgia since 2001, records show.
Scheunemann’s role as lobbyist and campaign adviser came to light in May, when USA TODAY reported he had contacted McCain’s Senate office on Georgia’s behalf last year while he was working for the campaign.
Palin
The longer I think about it, the less well this selection sits with me. And I increasingly doubt that it will prove good politics. The Palin choice looks cynical. The wires are showing.
John McCain wanted a woman: good.
He wanted to keep conservatives and pro-lifers happy: naturally.
He wanted someone who looked young and dynamic: smart.
And he discovered that he could not reconcile all these imperatives with the stated goal of finding a running mate qualified to assume the duties of the presidency “on day one.”
Sarah Palin may well have concealed inner reservoirs of greatness. I hope so! But I’d guess that John McCain does not have a much better sense of who she is, what she believes, and the extent of her abilities than my enthusiastic friends over at the Corner. It’s a wild gamble, undertaken by our oldest ever first-time candidate for president in hopes of changing the board of this election campaign. Maybe it will work. But maybe (and at least as likely) it will reinforce a theme that I’d be pounding home if I were the Obama campaign: that it’s John McCain for all his white hair who represents the risky choice, while it is Barack Obama who offers cautious, steady, predictable governance.
Here’s I fear the worst harm that may be done by this selection. The McCain campaign’s slogan is “country first.” It’s a good slogan, and it aptly describes John McCain, one of the most self-sacrificing, gallant, and honorable men ever to seek the presidency.
But question: If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency?
http://tinyurl.com/65l6go
Beber you and MH maybe on to something. I forgot what happens to people who commit her type of crime when they go to prison. Don’t think she will be welcomed with open arms
What I am realizing more each day is that McCain thinks (is deluded by the opinion) he is ALL that is needed. He needs no vice president, he needs nothing more than himself.
He is truly a dangerous man.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/12/AR2008081202932.html
John McCain’s top foreign policy adviser prepped his boss for an April 17 phone call with the president of Georgia and then helped the presumptive Republican presidential nominee prepare a strong statement of support for the fledgling republic.
The day of the call, a lobbying firm partly owned by the adviser, Randy Scheunemann, signed a $200,000 contract to continue providing strategic advice to the Georgian government in Washington.
Follow the money always follow the money
http://godelmetric.blogspot.com/2008/08/mccain-georgia-nato-and-defense.html
McCain, Georgia, NATO, and Defense Lobbyists
This is kind of unreal.
An interesting fact about NATO is that all member nations are required to deploy equipment that can be used by other NATO countries — meaning manufactured in NATO member nations — which means that NATO expansion since the Soviet breakup has focused on Eastern Bloc countries using (mostly legacy) Soviet military technology. The point is that NATO suppliers have a guaranteed captive market, but also that new NATO members are a boon for defense contractors.
Consequently the NATO expansion lobby is a tool of the arms export industry. NATO expansion targets former Soviet states are the best possible new markets. Lots of old technology that can be “updated” to the NATO standard, using fresh new Western-manufactured parts and support and tossing out all the old Soviet/Russia units (the competition). Of course, this means that current NATO members are not a favorable market for Russia, now or ever, which is one of many reasons why Russia dislikes NATO expansion. If you ever wonder why certain countries are not NATO invitees, or why certain countries like Georgia might be invited to join, it is worth looking first at where those countries procure from in the first place. For example, Libya. See also here and here.
So, what does this have to do with John McCain? Well. You may have read (NYT) about that Randy Scheunemann fellow who was apparently a lobbyist for Georgia and now works for McCain? (He got McCain to nominate Georgia’s President Saakashvili for the Nobel Peace Prize!) Oh, you don’t even know the half of it. He’s connected to PNAC and Chalabi, but for present purposes this is the amazing bit:
Much of Scheunemann’s work, in both the public and private spheres, has been oriented toward Europe, promoting democratic programs and expanding NATO to former Soviet-bloc countries. A board member (along with McCain) of the International Republican Institute (IRI), a key institutional vehicle through which the National Endowment for Democracy carries out its work, Scheunemann has worked closely with Bruce Jackson [remember this name], a fellow former PNAC director, on NATO expansion issues, serving as a board member of Jackson’s U.S. Committee on NATO and as a registered lobbyist and/or consultant for Georgia [tried to join NATO], Latvia [joined NATO], Macedonia [almost joined], and Romania [joined].
I want to know who is going to go and actually investigate whether or not Palin stole her daughter’s child or not.
Annie, McSame better keep this and many tidbits of info from his second in command. Ya know, she fights corruption! At least when it’s convenient and agrees with her agenda. When she needs to be corrupt and use influence that is unethical then she is on the side of corruption instead of against it.
GOD’S IRONY
Remember a couple of weeks ago when Republicans were telling their minions to pray for bad weather to mess up Obama’s acceptance speech at Invesco?
Now with the republican convention coming up this week, we have what the media have described as a “Monster Storm” bearing down on the Gulf coast. How ironic! Gustav is really going to screw things up for republicans. While Gustav wreaks havoc on the Gulf coast, republicans will be partying their a$$es off in St Paul. How typically republican!
Republicans are just stuck. They can’t cancel their convention. They’d have a really have a tough time rescheduling before the November elections. A thing like a national convention doesn’t happen overnight. Will they shorten their convention? If they do, that’ll cut down on a lot of toxic emissions. It’ll also really mess up their little love fest.
Republicans party while the Gulf coast sinks.
Talk about Karma.
I do think it ironic. I think it is so funny that Dobson prayed for storms on Denver but now going to have it happen on the Anniversary of Katrina with the two bumbling fools that allowed the death of millions while McSame and Bush laughed.
Linda,
I agree wholeheartedly with you. Palin has little experience, and an unknown reserve of a**kicking needed in politics. I’m really not interested in her family crap, but am very keen on seeing how she handles Biden in any upcoming debates. If Biden trounces her, will the Republicans call Biden a woman hater, or an unchivalrous bastard? Can she stand up to Biden’s experience?
If Cindy McCain actually said Palin has global experience because Alaska is close to Russia, I would put Cindy in the same category as Paris and Brittany. Now wouldn’t that make a great ad! Talk about Karma.
Karma, she is a biotch! And seems to be making regular appearances nowadays.
Palin is pandering to the evangelicals and she may absolutely draw some from that group who had decided to sit this one out. But an equal number of “independents” aren’t enamored of legislating morality so they may be as turned off as the evangelicals are turned on. What I know for sure is this doesn’t get the women’s vote! Only those women who would never have voted for Obama will be impressed with this pandering insult.
“Beber you and MH maybe on to something. I forgot what happens to people who commit her type of crime when they go to prison. Don’t think she will be welcomed with open arms” – Freebird.
Once again Freebird, you can’t swallow your cries for blood and your desire for harm to befall another human being. GAWD, you people are transparent.
I don’t think you ever stopped drinking, Freebird, and even if you did, it only improved you from being a mean drunk to a mean dry drunk. And remember, you only quit when it threatened your miserable life. So you’ve exhibited no courage whatsoever. What about quitting for your kids, what about quitting for your wife? No, you quit to save your worthless hide and because you are selfish.
So much for feeding you, Bird. I know you enjoy the flagellation. You’re just another right wing whack job with a drinking problem. The board is so crowded with your type there’s hardly room for the sane people. You sure as hell ain’t special.
There’ll be more Republicans down there on the dikes (except they’ll spell it “dykes,” sure as hell) handing out meals-ready-to-eat than there will be people wanting to eat them In fact, the Pukes will probably eat them themselves, as they won’t be able to imagine a world without services, and won’t bring anything to sustain themselves.
This will be great — a whole convention of Republicans pretending to care about New Orleans. Haw, haw, haw.
That said, may the storm die in the Gulf and save our coasts. Amen.
This is funny!
The latest I’m reading is that just as McCain will be bush’s third term, Palin will be cheney’s third term.
Just as someone who toed the “social conserrvative” line was needed to balance bush so is Palin needed to balance McCain.
Palin for cheney’s third term!
Palin for cheney’s third term!
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Cheney’s trimester. Now there’s a thought.
beber
Posted August 31, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink
This will be great — a whole convention of Republicans pretending to care about New Orleans. Haw, haw, haw.
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The conservatives are awfully quiet about this today. Too bad they have to wait till tomorrow to get their talking points from Rush.
If the republicans had the good sense to have Fred Thompson for their nominee, he could be in New Orleans standing on a seawall giving Gustav a dirty look to scare it away. Now they’ll have to make due with McCain making chipmunk faces.
whew these cambridge boys are thorough
http://cambridgeforecast.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/mccain-neocon-advisor-randy-scheunemann-georgia-lobbyist/
Randy Scheunemann
2008 McCain presidential advisor
While the foreign affairs advisor to Republican presidential candidate John McCain, Scheunemann was also a registered foreign agent (lobbyist) for the Republic of Georgia[5] [6]
Randall Scheunemann (196?) is an American lobbyist. He is the President of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, which was created by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), of which he is a board member. He was Trent Lott’s National Security Aide and was an advisor to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Iraq. He is 2008 Presidential candidate John McCain’s foreign-policy aide. He lives in Fairfax Station, Virginia.
Education and early career
Scheunemann has a degree from the University of Minnesota, and did graduate work at Tufts University. He moved to Capitol Hill in 1986, working in the office of Republican Senator Dave Durenberger. In 1993, he moved the staff of Republican Senator Bob Dole, as a foreign policy advisor. He left Dole’s staff to work for Republican Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott.[1]
Lobbyist
In 1998, Scheunemann went to work for the public relations firm Mercury Group.[1]
During the 2002 and early 2003 campaign by the George W. Bush administration to generate public support for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Scheunemann had a close association with Iraq exile Ahmad Chalabi.[2]
Until May 2008, Scheunemann was co-owner of a two-person Washington, D.C. lobbying firm, Orion Strategies, LLC.[3] The firm has lobbied on behalf of the Open Society Policy Center, the Caspian Alliance and the National Rifle Association,among others.[4]
2008 McCain presidential advisor
While the foreign affairs advisor to Republican presidential candidate John McCain, Scheunemann was also a registered foreign agent (lobbyist) for the Republic of Georgia[5] [6]
On April 17, 2008, McCain spoke on the phone with Georgia President Mikheil Saakashvili about Russian efforts to gain leverage over two of Georgia’s troubled provinces. That same day, McCain issued a public statement condemning Russia and expressing strong support for the Georgian position. Also on that same day, Georgia signed a new, $200,000 lobbying contract with Scheunemann’s firm, Orion Strategies. Scheunemann remained with Orion Strategies until May 15, when the McCain campaign imposed a tough new anti-lobbyist policy and he was required to separate himself from the company.[7]
In mid-July 2008, The Sunday Times linked Scheunemann to Stephen Payne, a lobbyist covertly filmed as he offered to arrange meetings with Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and others, in exchange for donations to the George W. Bush Presidential Library. Payne said Scheunemann had been “working with me on my payroll for five of the last eight years.” [8]
References:
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a b John Bresnahan (November 2, 1998). “Lott Foreign Policy Adviser Decides to Leave”, Roll Call.
2.
Marshall, Josh (July 14, 2008). “Do Your Job: Stop Ignoring Scheunemann’s Past“. Talking Points Memo. Retrieved on 2008-07-17.
3.
http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_754jc
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5.
Meier, Barry and Kate Zernike (May 20, 2008). McCain Finds a Thorny Path in Ethics Effort. New York Times.
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Kelly, Matt (May 20, 2008). McCain adviser’s work as lobbyist comes to light. USA Today.
7.
Matthew Mosk and Jeffrey H. Birnbaum, “While Aide Advised McCain, His Firm Lobbied for Georgia: Campaign Dismisses Timing of Phone Call, Contract”, Washington Post, August 13, 2008
8.
Daniel Foggo and Steven Swinford, “President Bush lobbyist Stephen Payne in ‘bribes’ row quits: Cash for access at the White House is under scrutiny by Congress”, The Sunday Times, July 20, 2008
Reckless pick bad news for Australia
ALLIES like Australia have reason to be worried about John McCain’s vice-presidential pick.
If he were to die in his first few months in office. Sarah Palin, with no foreign policy experience and untested on the national and international stage, would be calling the shots, setting policy on US engagement in Iraq and Afghanistan, where our Diggers are, or have been, in harm’s way.
What McCain has done in selecting Palin is an entirely political decision to win him the general election, which proves again that self-interest always triumphs in politics.
But in terms of foreign policy, in which Australia has most interest, this is a reckless move and potentially stressful toour alliance in the event that early in the next administration Palin were elevated to the presidency.
The comeback from the McCain campaign is that Barack Obama is even less experienced than Palin. As a political argument, this is understandable and worth running, but it is intellectually dishonest.
You don’t pull off what Obama has done in the past 18 months and not be qualified to lead. In fact, this is what the whole process is about – testing candidates in the public glare seven days a week for nearly two years so Americans can make their judgment on who should lead their parties.
Obama’s intellectual heft plus his state department in waiting – about 300 foreign policy advisers are already signed on to his team – shores up his credentials.
And his pick of Joe Biden, 65, as his VP means that should Obama come to harm, the US and its allies will have in a president Biden – a life-long senator and two-time presidential candidate – an expert in foreign policy and international relations.
That’s not to say Obama’s decision on Biden was not a political decision either, designed to neutralise the argument that he lacked experience.
But from an Australian perspective, there appears little risk in the pairing of the Obama-Biden ticket.
As an ally, we deserved better than this from McCain.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24271964-2703,00.html
Whew – I’ve been away from the ‘puter for a coupla days, so I’ve been perusing the posts from today and yesterday’s open threads, and……
None of us REALLY knows the identity of various and sundry post-ers here; I suspect that yesterday someone stole the moniker of someone else, but what the hellola. I have no proof. I have only myself and my own sensitivities and life experiences from which to draw. And I gotta say this:
Don’t encourage someone (either facetiously or merely with pervading disinterest) to f–king off themselves. It just sort of ……um…..wait a second here……
Just brought up a little baklava here………
My goodness – it’s been quite an interesting past coupla days. Someone whom I never DREAMED would move me touched my heart. Yeah – when you write a how-to book that’s kind of the Kama Sutra of Klosin’ Abortion Kliniks it tends to rub me the wrong way.
But I’ll be g—amned if Joe Scheidler didn’t move me with some poignant words. Mainly because they ring true in my case. They do not ring true in everyone’s case. They ring true in my life.
I don’t have a problem with a pro-life activist displaying a surfeit of affirmation all over his website. I do have a problem with violence. Hell, I can’t even own and operate a handgun for protection! I cry the moment I touch the damned thing! Thus, how can I fail to disregard the agonies of Emily Lyons? I cannot – and I never will.
Respect for others – and kindness for others – will work toward ending abortion. I don’t care who the hellola you are….you could be the nonfat Messiah come again, and if you make a casual joke about suicide, you’re turning me the f–k right off.
I would also add this much: Scripture states that “to whom much is given, much is required.” I guess that sort of translates (in my mind) to, “If a whole lotta peeps heap on the praise, you ought to watch your mouth (and your tactics) at times.”
I don’t want to see (or hear) Dr. Tiller demonized – any more than I want to blithely encourage somone to f–king off themselves.
Then again, I don’t REALLY know who the various post-ers are here. I mean, I may not REALLY be a filmfan. I could be a four-foot-ten, flat-chested, black albino who played Isaac Hayes’ mother in the remake of “Shaft”……….
John Stewart on the Daily Show played a clip of a Fox News anchor saying with a straight face that (paraphrasing) Palin has a lot of foreign relations experience because Alaska is right next door to Russia —–
And that news anchor was Steve Doocey, who used to be with KAKE here in Wichita and affectionately (or not) known as Steve Douchebag.
had enough yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ufa-q7DcWM&feature=related
The pandering Lie of Omission: (from the DNC) Biden “You can learn an awful lot about a man campaigning with him, debating him and seeing how he reacts under pressure.”
The Truth:
Biden on July 19, 2007 on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos. Stephanopoulos: “You were asked is [Obama] he ready. You said ‘I think he can be ready, but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.’” Biden: “I think that I stand by the statement.”
The Lie:
He (Biden) then went on to say that he ”went to law school on a full academic scholarship – the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,” Mr. Biden said. He also said that he ”ended up in the top half” of his class and won a prize in an international moot court competition. In college, Mr. Biden said in the appearance, he was ”the outstanding student in the political science department” and ”graduated with three degrees from college.”
The Truth:
In his statement today, Mr. Biden, who attended the Syracuse College of Law and graduated 76th in a class of 85, acknowledged: ‘‘I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inaccurate.”
The Truth:
As for receiving three degrees, Mr. Biden said: ”I graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major in history and political science. My reference to degrees at the Claremont event was intended to refer to these majors – I said ‘three’ and should have said ‘two.’ ” Mr. Biden received a single B.A. in history and political science.
The Lie:
Biden saiad that he ”went to law school on a full academic scholarship – the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,’
The Truth:
Biden received a scholarship from the Syracuse University College of Law ”based in part on academics” as well as a grant from the Higher Education Scholarship Fund of the state of Delaware. He said the law school ”arranged for my first year’s room and board by placing me as an assistant resident adviser in the undergraduate school.”
‘Some things you didn’t know about Sarah Palin‘
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/29/183255/841/290/579394
Linda…look at it this way…we’re all too smart to think that just because McCain picked a woman, he’s more of a threat to Obama’s chances. His policial pandering is so apparent it’s downright funny.
He just handed Obama the election.
PS…and doesn’t she remind you of Anita Bryant? LOL
“He just handed Obama the election” — Mary Caruso.
Never underestimate — ect. Yesterday in the bar, this guy was talking about what a great pick she was. “Why, she likes to hunt and fish just like I do,” he said. “And she knows how to shoot.”
There are millions and millions of idiots like that out there. They’re called NASCAR dads. Don’t underestimate this lady’s appeal.
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Mary_Caruso
Posted August 31, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink
PS…and doesn’t she remind you of Anita Bryant? LOL
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I doubt if most of the knot heads on this forum even know who Anita Bryant is.
“There are millions and millions of idiots like that out there. They’re called NASCAR dads. Don’t underestimate this lady’s appeal.”
But it’s the NASCAR dads who will vote for McCain anyway no matter who he picks. She just reinforced the fact that McCain is either senile or stupid.
Well, I have said elsewhere, I am not entirely sure cupcake Palin will survive the convention as nominee. I’m not sure she was meant to.
THINK how insulting this is to even Republican women. How do you feel if you are Sen Kay Bailey Hutchison with your name on the short list and then McCain (or whoever) presents the country with a giggling man toy.
Those women who supported Hilarly will not vote for this gal because she’s a woman…she doesn’t share their politics. She’s anti gay, anti abortion, pro-gun, and believes that creationism should be taught in public schools. No one who shared Hilary’s vision will vote for her simply because she’s female.
Reg..she even LOOKS like Anita Bryant!!
‘Biden: McCain out of touch ‘
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/08/biden_mccain_ou.html
“[Senator Joe Biden] honored Hillary Clinton, who was almost the nominee. And he paid tribute to Obama, whose readiness for the presidency he questioned last August, but who Biden said had accomplished much in his short time in the US Senate and proved himself in the crucible of the primaries.
“You can learn an awful lot about a man campaigning with him, debating him, and seeing how he reacts under pressure,” Biden said. “You learn about the strength of his mind. But even more importantly, you learn about the quality of his heart. I watched how he touched people, how he inspired them, and I realized he had tapped into the oldest belief in America: we don’t have to accept a situation we cannot bear. We have the power to change it. And change it is exactly what Barack Obama will do — that’s what he’ll do for this country.”
Biden listed a series of McCain’s votes, with the same refrain: “That’s not change, that’s more of the same.”
“The choice in this election is clear,” Biden said. “These times require more than a good soldier — they require a wise leader. A leader who can deliver change. The change that everybody knows we need. Barack Obama’s going to deliver that change.” “
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beber
Posted August 31, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
“He just handed Obama the election” — Mary Caruso.
Never underestimate — ect. Yesterday in the bar, this guy was talking about what a great pick she was. “Why, she likes to hunt and fish just like I do,” he said. “And she knows how to shoot.”
There are millions and millions of idiots like that out there. They’re called NASCAR dads. Don’t underestimate this lady’s appeal.
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In the bar, eh?
Why beber, you anonymous little nic prick, who won the fight? Unless you are a completely hypocritical nitwit I’m sure you immediately went over and called him a F***head! That’s your style!
hehehe
beber, do you think they vote as reliably as other groups, say women, especially mature women? NOT!
Mary, I hadn’t thought about Anita Bryant. When Capn said yesterday she looked like Elaine from Seinfeld I could immediately see that resemblance.
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A tiny bit from wiki:
Elaine is the only woman among the main characters. She is noticeably small and apparently somewhat light as well. Her clothing is normally quite conservative; however, her breasts are a major part of three episodes. In “The Pick” she sends many people a Christmas card that has a picture of her baring a nipple (accidentally). George, irate that he didn’t receive one, confronts her and she responds by angrily rubbing his head in between her breasts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Benes
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Maybe Palin can try this tactic with some of the world’s leaders. None of what “could be” seems any more outrageous than McCain making her his running mate. Everything that I would have considered nonsense is now back on the table with that complete lack of judgment.
Maybe Palin can try this tactic with some of the world’s leaders. None of what “could be” seems any more outrageous than McCain making her his running mate. Everything that I would have considered nonsense is now back on the table with that complete lack of judgment.
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Or maybe she could give back rubs. You know, kinda like bush gave? That would go over great with world leaders, especially the Muslims.
beber writes:
“…and as far as being a little nic prick, who spends 27-7 telling lies on this blog…”
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Is that anything like the 57 states Obomba visited?
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Regular
Posted August 31, 2008 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
Is that anything like the 57 states Obomba visited?
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Right on point, Reg. And such an intelligent contribution to the subject.
No wonder you’re the blog a$$hole.
Whoa, thanks for the invite, beber! I never turn down the offer of a friendly drink!
When? I’ll be there.
hehehe
Oh, and where?
hehehe
If McCain thinks his pick of Palin is going to win over Hillary supporters, those Hillary supporters might want to remember Palin’s comment about Hillary’s “whine”. Before she started back-pedalling, that is.
And here’s a really good one about “being under the microscope”.
http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=15620
She made herself fair game, unfair or not.
Friday afternoon, 6 p.m., 20s west, Topeka Kansas; 10th and Fairlawn. Come in with some of your best Obama lines.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/index.html
Sunday Aug. 31, 2008 11:46 EDT
Federal government involved in raids on protesters
(update below)
As the police attacks on protesters in Minnesota continue — see this video of the police swarming a bus transporting members of Earth Justice, seizing the bus and leaving the group members stranded on the side of the highway — it appears increasingly clear that it is the Federal Government that is directing this intimidation campaign. Minnesota Public Radio reported yesterday that “the searches were led by the Ramsey County Sheriff’s office. Deputies coordinated searches with the Minneapolis and St. Paul police departments and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.”
Today’s Star Tribune added that the raids were specifically “aided by informants planted in protest groups.” Back in May, Marcy Wheeler presciently noted that the Minneapolis Joint Terrorist Task Force — an inter-agency group of federal, state and local law enforcement led by the FBI — was actively recruiting Minneapolis residents to serve as plants, to infiltrate “vegan groups” and other left-wing activist groups and report back to the Task Force about what they were doing. There seems to be little doubt that it was this domestic spying by the Federal Government that led to the excessive and truly despicable home assaults by the police yesterday.
So here we have a massive assault led by Federal Government law enforcement agencies on left-wing dissidents and protesters who have committed no acts of violence or illegality whatsoever, preceded by months-long espionage efforts to track what they do. And as extraordinary as that conduct is, more extraordinary is the fact that they have received virtually no attention from the national media and little outcry from anyone. And it’s not difficult to see why. As the recent “overhaul” of the 30-year-old FISA law illustrated — preceded by the endless expansion of surveillance state powers, justified first by the War on Drugs and then the War on Terror — we’ve essentially decided that we want our Government to spy on us without limits. There is literally no police power that the state can exercise that will cause much protest from the political and media class and, therefore, from the citizenry.
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Damn these protestors. If only they were stockpiling guns and worshipping some FUNDY right-wing religious non-sense, the CONs wouldn’t have been able to do anything to them.
Vegan groups? ROFL Yeah, they’re REALLY dangerous people!
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Posted August 31, 2008 at 2:14 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted August 31, 2008 at 1:59 pm | Permalink
Is that anything like the 57 states Obomba visited?
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Right on point, Reg. And such an intelligent contribution to the subject.
No wonder you’re the blog a$$hole.
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Lighten up criminal, or the county will revoke your probation.
Hey guys and gals need a few extra bucks for christmas the FBI has a few openings
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/21/fbi-looking-for-vega.html
FBI looking for vegan potluck terrorists
Posted by Mark Frauenfelder, May 21, 2008 10:06 AM | permalink
A BB reader says: “FBI tries to convince man to infiltrate vegan potluck events to look for terrorists in Minneapolis/St. Paul, site for the 2008 Republican National Committee Convention this summer.”
[University of Minnesota sophomore Paul] Carroll, who requested that his real name not be used, showed up early and waited anxiously for [U of M Police Sgt. Erik] Swanson’s arrival. Ten minutes later, he says, a casually dressed Swanson showed up, flanked by a woman whom he introduced as FBI Special Agent Maureen E. Mazzola. For the next 20 minutes, Mazzola would do most of the talking.
“She told me that I had the perfect ‘look,’” recalls Carroll. “And that I had the perfect personality—they kept saying I was friendly and personable—for what they were looking for.”
What they were looking for, Carroll says, was an informant—someone to show up at “vegan potlucks” throughout the Twin Cities and rub shoulders with RNC protestors, schmoozing his way into their inner circles, then reporting back to the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, a partnership between multiple federal agencies and state and local law enforcement. The effort’s primary mission, according to the Minneapolis division’s website, is to “investigate terrorist acts carried out by groups or organizations which fall within the definition of terrorist groups as set forth in the current United States Attorney General Guidelines.”
Carroll would be compensated for his efforts, but only if his involvement yielded an arrest. No exact dollar figure was offered.
“I’ll pass,” said Carroll.
It looks like the evacuation of the Gulf Coast, and especially New Orleans, is being very well organized and implemented at this time due to the imposing threat from hurricane Gustav.
The governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans both seem to be managing it very skillfully, and this is where the majority of the responsibilty needs to come from and not the federal government!
So will we give President Bush a job well done then and praise him and FEMA, or do we only criticize him when natural disasters happen and nothing is done to properly (by the state and city governments) to evacuate the residents and much is suffered and lost?
Sure, here’s a hearty “Heck of Job, George,” in advance. Too bad the first time around you had packed the government with incompetent Republican cronies, lobbyists and fundraisers.
By the way, George. Congrats on your veto of the anti-torture bill. Your legacy grows, day by day…
I’m pretty sure everyone is “tickled pink” that many at every level learned from the last experience. That’s what experience brings — the opportunity to learn. So far bush has kept a close eye on the situation, canceled a scheduled trip, even said he wouldn’t be going to the affected area tomorrow as he didn’t want to interfere or add any challenges. I think that means he, like others, learned many lessons. They are all to be congratulated on learning the lessons provided by experience.
Yeah, it gave FEMA, read GOP, a chance to look good eight weeks before the election.
Dennis
But the people aren’t fooled by such transparent nonsense.
They have long memories.
Ain’t gettin’ any Republican votes down there.
Dennis
If McCain and Palin really wanted to help they would go the Red Cross and donate blood (if they can) and do a PSA encouraging others to do so. Or, perhaps go to a emergency aid / Red Cross distribution center and help load trucks — they add nothing to solving the pending problems by going down and being observers, at best they are underfoot. By going they distract some emergency resources from doing their job ……. a photo op as meaningless as the his “Help” (tarmac birthday party with bush) during Katrina — he doesn’t really care he has no clue of the trauma people suffer in those disasters ….
McCain = Bush only much dumber — much dumber
What was Max saying about both the Governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans? Seems both are doing a great job, and getting the proposed land fall areas evacuated. Bet that ticks dogboy off.
Yes, and if the Republicans really want to help they could donate all of their campaign funds to the Red Cross.
I sure hope that Gustav isnt as big and bad as Katrina!! We just dont need that right now…
What Rage you didn’t tell them?
I got it. I always like being the bringer of happy news.
Friends of the purple chicken?
BlueJay squawks loudly…
I am very happy to announce the addition of Monkeyhawk to our happy group of back channel patriots and defenders of all that is good and fun.
Welcome aboard Monkeyhawk.
I bet Sarah Palin is going through a crash course of most everything right now. With this lull, if they have any brains, they’ve brought in coaches for issues a person who would be vice president should know. Maybe even (I hope!) a voice coach!
“There are many misconceptions about the Fairness Doctrine. For instance, it did not require that each program be internally balanced, nor did it mandate equal time for opposing points of view. And it didn’t require that the balance of a station’s program lineup be anything like 50/50.
Nor, as Rush Limbaugh has repeatedly claimed, was the Fairness Doctrine all that stood between conservative talkshow hosts and the dominance they would attain after the doctrine’s repeal. In fact, not one Fairness Doctrine decision issued by the FCC had ever concerned itself with talkshows. Indeed, the talkshow format was born and flourished while the doctrine was in operation. Before the doctrine was repealed, right-wing hosts frequently dominated talkshow schedules, even in liberal cities, but none was ever muzzled (The Way Things Aren’t, Rendall et al., 1995). The Fairness Doctrine simply prohibited stations from broadcasting from a single perspective, day after day, without presenting opposing views.”
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0212-03.htm
Linda, they certainly need to do something with Sarah (plain and tall) — at least from what I have seen and heard and read so far… Seems that her position of Mayor in that small town was a lot like the position of Mayor here in Wichita, before our local government format was changed.
Monkey — Get my email from Blue Jay…. and send me an email… Got something I want to run by you… (back door, please)
Oooops MH — I guess the term is “back channel” sorry….
“BlueJay” –
I don’t want to even think about what the “purple chicken” means.
Anyway, the purple reminds me of K-State so, as a KU grad, I’m compelled to reject the
colorhonor out of hand.And Silo Tech people have been known to demean the vaunted Jayhawk with attempted insults (a la “Regular,” no less) as “chicken” hawks.
But I’m a liberal. I hope there’s redemption possible.
KU and K-State both won their opening football games this weekend, so life should be good. Next week, though, they might have to play boys’ teams. So we’ll see…
What was the cheese eating monkey… ?? can’t remember, but thought that description more apropos.
It wasn’t directed to a MonkeyHawk, at least not individually. I think it was Capn’s description.
Wish I had a memory. Some days when I remember I had it once I miss it.
I sure wish the news would talk about something other than the hurricane. I’m all about updates frequently but come on folks.
PMama, the National Weather Service just wants equal time with the RNC Convention… LOL
Linda — I think it was >>>>
Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey…. a demeaning statement often used by Regular…
“lindainks55″ –
Getting old is one thing. But when your memory goes, forget it.
Monkey, Can’t remember better advice, ever! (still chuckling about that one!)
So, Chas, I’m remembering something Regular said — with fondness?
I’m a goner, aren’t I?
PMom, do you have CNBC? They are interviewing Palin.
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Regular
Posted August 31, 2008 at 4:34 pm | Permalink
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Lighten up criminal, or the county will revoke your probation.
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Really? Care to expound on what “crime” I’m guilty of? Enlighten us what I’m on probation for?
Go ahead, Reg. If you got anything, now’s the time to “out” me. I challenge you.
You got nothing. You’re just the blog a$$hole.
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Posted August 31, 2008 at 10:31 pm | Permalink
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Regular
Posted August 31, 2008 at 4:34 pm | Permalink
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Lighten up criminal, or the county will revoke your probation.
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Really? Care to expound on what “crime” I’m guilty of? Enlighten us what I’m on probation for?
Go ahead, Reg. If you got anything, now’s the time to “out” me. I challenge you.
You got nothing. You’re just the blog a$$hole.
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Just responding ‘in kind’ to your uncivil remarks.
what channel what channel????
I got it
Thanks Linda, you rock!
I have Dish Network, my channel 208. Don’t know about other providers…
I am also watching the baked Alaskan.
I’d like to know when they’re going to address these questions about Palin.
I read something today where a reporter went to the local newspaper (where she lives) and asked for the archives. Found out he was the FIRST to make such a request. Seems she wasn’t “vetted” well and maybe she had been on a list for awhile but didn’t come near the top until this week and wasn’t decided on until a few days ago. Never was the proper investigation done far as I can tell.
Most things I’ve read indicate that internal polling was abysmal and McCain made a Hail Mary gamble. He was going to lose for sure and his gamble may or may not change that.
So, with reporters at the RNC, an of course in the south because of the storm, then add in a long weekend — I expect more early next week.
BlueJay posted August 31, 2008 at 10:53 pm
“I am also watching the baked Alaskan.”
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You can also see a graph of that here,
‘2007 Surface Temperature Anomaly’
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20080116/208484main_surface_temp_anom.jpg
Is it karma?
One monster hurricane about to strike the US. ANOTHER winding up to do the same and this week.
Is it a coincidence that this is the week of the con vention?
It’s always bad weather when storm troopers gather.
I read so much today I can’t go back and find any of it easily, but giggled at one comment. The writer asked, “doesn’t someone need to go through more than this to be assistant mgr. at Target?”
I think this speaks directly to McCain’s (lack of) judgment. When will he make the next decision to “gamble” if he is president? Will it start WWIII earlier rather than later? And, I can’t see our strained foreign relationships improved by this kind of unsteady, unreliable, childish behavior.
He rally wants to win and that’s all he thinks about. Nothing beyond that. It’s totally him first, country last!
Actually, Jay, I just checked my throwaway account just now. For that matter, I just now read the open thread.
Thanks for the reply, Monkeyhawk! You’ll find out about the purple chicken soon enough! :) Suffice to say it doesn’t involve anything illegal, immoral or fattening!
This post XXX made earlier today is GREAT! Deserves to be repeated!
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XXX
Posted August 31, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink
GOD’S IRONY
Remember a couple of weeks ago when Republicans were telling their minions to pray for bad weather to mess up Obama’s acceptance speech at Invesco?
Now with the republican convention coming up this week, we have what the media have described as a “Monster Storm” bearing down on the Gulf coast. How ironic! Gustav is really going to screw things up for republicans. While Gustav wreaks havoc on the Gulf coast, republicans will be partying their a$$es off in St Paul. How typically republican!
Republicans are just stuck. They can’t cancel their convention. They’d have a really have a tough time rescheduling before the November elections. A thing like a national convention doesn’t happen overnight. Will they shorten their convention? If they do, that’ll cut down on a lot of toxic emissions. It’ll also really mess up their little love fest.
Republicans party while the Gulf coast sinks.
Talk about Karma.
I am also watching the baked Alaskan.
Heh, baked Alaskan, I like that!
Pass me the bong, Sarah! Barack don’t smoke it no more (tired of waking up on the floor).
wonder if Dobson remembers asking his viewers to pray for bad weather?
Linda,
‘McCain Camp Didn’t Search Palin’s Hometown Paper Archives‘
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/mccain-camp-didnt-search_n_122823.html
Notice how the MSM never mentioned the protesters at the DNC. I think they were too embarrassed to show the fenced in little prisons they built to put them in.
Now the far leftists groups have sent in their paid protesters to the RNC. Of course, the good men and women of the police force in St. Paul were prepared; they arrested these protesters when they found weapons on them.
As for the rest of the protesters, they did not build a jail for them. In fact, they have given them a stage that is within 80 feet from the convention center and they have provided them with speakers and a sound system.
So who believes in Freedom of Speech? Democrats? or Republicans? I believe the two examples above explain it all. THE REPUBLICANS!!!!
I wish I had a link.
Did anybody see John McCain’s inept address today?
It seems the cons will carry on with only the necessities at their con vention.
They even hint at turning it into some sort of telethon.
As two hurricanes hit America?
This WILL be interesting.
“We are here to help!” Juxtaposed to “You can make it on your own!”
“Open your hearts while you join with us to close your minds.”
That’s the one, Cosmos! Thanks!
I also read where Palin’s mother-in-law hasn’t decided that she will vote for the ticket her daughter in law is on. She said she doesn’t think she can vote for McCain! She also said she doesn’t know what Paalin adds to the ticket other than she is female and she is a better speaker than McCain.
arresting protesters without merit is a violation of freedom of speech.
There were plenty of protesters at the DNC. Did you see the videos? You were looking in the wrong places apparently.
and the fact that her state is sitting on a ton of government protected oil.
I saw it BlueJay. He is a pathetic old man. There were drains on the strained resources of law enforcement because he was there interfering.
Political_mama posted August 31, 2008 at 11:19 pm
“and the fact that her state is sitting on a ton of government protected oil.”
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Which, for example, McCain’s VP choice Palin VERY falsely claims can be lifted from one tiny, contiguous, 2000-acre (3 square mile) plot in the Arctic National WILDLIFE REFUGE.
‘Drilling in the Arctic Refuge: The 2,000-Acre Footprint Myth
Oil development would stamp a spiderweb of industrial sprawl across the whole of the refuge’s 1.5-million-acre coastal plain.’
http://www.nrdc.org/land/wilderness/artech/farc2000.asp
NRDC?
BAWHAHAHAHA. Talk about a COMPLETELY biased source.
Cosmos, you’re reachin’
It is unfortunate for Jerry Lewis and the Muscular Dystrophy telethon.
This very worthy charity has to share air with a hurricane and the blowhards of the Republican con vention.
That and their research has been held back by those who would protect an embryo to be discarded instead of allowing it to be used to help a child heal and walk.
I remember collecting for Jerry’s kids door to door when I was only 8 or 9.
Please remember and support the Muscular Dystrophy telethon.
Very well said,
‘John, Don’t Go’
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/01/opinion/01krugman.html
Beber, One final observation. THere is so much crap coming from you that if they decided to give the human race an enema your mouth would be the point of insertion. There I’m done wasting time with you
Blue Jay,
The MD. charity is the only one I give to. I give every year in memory of a family friend who lost a child to that disease. Hope that wasn’t your motivation.
KSGolfnut posted August 31, 2008 at 11:51 pm
“NRDC?
BAWHAHAHAHA. Talk about a COMPLETELY biased source.
Cosmos, you’re reachin’ ”
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golfnuts,
So YOU don’t like the U.S. Geological Survey, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and other sources at my NRDC link?
‘Drilling in the Arctic Refuge: The 2,000-Acre Footprint Myth
Oil development would stamp a spiderweb of industrial sprawl across the whole of the refuge’s 1.5-million-acre coastal plain.’
http://www.nrdc.org/land/wilderness/artech/farc2000.asp
“. . .
<b?Notes
1. U.S. Geological Survey, 1999, “Oil and Gas Potential of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge 1002 Area, Alaska, ” (U.S. Department of the Interior, Open File Report 98-34); see also, Richard A. Fineberg, “Understanding the U.S. Geological Survey Analysis of Estimated Oil Beneath the Coastal Plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, ” Fairbanks: Research Associates (June 20, 2001).
. . .
(more at link)
Do you have some more credible sources golfnuts? Palin? Cheney? LOL!
golfnuts,
Maybe you will like these sources?
‘Potential Impacts of Oil and Gas Development on Refuge Resources’
http://arctic.fws.gov/issues1.htm#section4
Impact of the “modern” oil technology that would be used in the Arctic Refuge,
http://www.wilderness.org/Library/Documents/upload/AlpineNoEnvironmentalShowpiece.pdf
I strongly suggest that you read the references, BEFORE you attack them.
Quote:
Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella issued this response: “For Barack Obama to accuse Gov. Sarah Palin of opposing equal opportunity for women, when she actually opposes the trial lawyers’ effort to overturn the longstanding statute of limitations in America’s courts — is not only an absurd accusation, it’s a disgrace.”
1. Obama accused Palin of opposing equal pay. The court item she is referring to is the Supreme court decision that backed pay discrimination proven for years in the Ledbetter case.
So that means, yes, she opposes fair pay. She supports the SCOTUS decision where the SCOTUS actually begged for the law to be changed. She threw a keyword in there trying to distract the issue. Lawyers are a good thing when you’ve been wronged.
Fact. She supports discrimination against women and pay.
“…where the SCOTUS actually begged for the law to be changed…”
Somehow, I doubt this was the case.
“KSGolfnut” –
If you read the opinions, you’ll find that the SCOTUS said the law wasn’t unconstitutional. It was wrong and didn’t produce justice. But there was nothing in the constitution to prevent it.
Some more enlightened courts have been “activist” in their decisions to correct constitutional errors. I mean, justice should probably figure into a government of “…the free and the home of the brave,” shouldn’t it?
Good night; Good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!!
Blessings on New Orleans and the Gulf Coast!!
Blessings on MDA and Jerry’s Kids!!
So mote it be!!
Chas,
Now this isn’t questioning your beliefs but I do have a question. You use the term “So mote it be” I have only heard that phrase used in conjunction with Wiccan rituals. What exactly is the origin of the phrase. I gather it is something you have taken to use simply as your sign off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ledbetter_v._Goodyear
“so be it; amen; – a phrase in some rituals, as that of the Freemasons.”
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/So+mote+it+be
Basically, an archaic form of “AMEN”
Chas,
Thank you for the information.