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Yes, even more science which supports the irrefutable fact of evolution.
‘Armored’ Fish Study Helps Strengthen Darwin’s Natural Selection Theory
ScienceDaily (Aug. 28, 2008) — Shedding some genetically induced excess baggage may have helped a tiny fish thrive in freshwater and outsize its marine ancestors, according to a UBC study published today in Science Express.
Measuring three to 10 centimetres long, stickleback fish originated in the ocean but began populating freshwater lakes and streams following the last ice age. Over the past 20,000 years – a relatively short time span in evolutionary terms – freshwater sticklebacks have lost their bony lateral plates, or “armour,” in these new environments.
“Scientists have identified a mutant form of a gene, or allele, that prohibits the growth of armour,” says UBC Zoology PhD candidate Rowan Barrett. Found in fewer than one per cent of marine sticklebacks, this allele is very common in freshwater populations.
More at:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080828162604.htm
Hank’s post yesterday in the open thread surprised me. I have been saying for some time the power grid in this country is outdated. Electricity is electricity, whether produced by wind, solar, nuclear or coal. Fully 30% of all electricity produced in this country is lost via transmission wire resistance. Adding any kind of new electrical sources chokes the system. So the post of Hank’s points out not just a problem hooking wind into the matrix, but all new energy inputs.
Which is why I think there should be a major push to develop a temperature stable superconductor. With such a grid, a thirty percent increase in power would do wonders. I know I, for one, don’t like paying 30% of my electric bill on heating the outside air.
Point being, Hank, regardless of what produces electricity, the system needs serious fixing. Trying to slam wind adds nothing to either the problem, or the solution.
Now this is playing dirty. Didn’t notice? Right.
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A McCain ad aired on Fox News channel with the words “HANG” in the background along with a photograph of Barack Obama has sparked outrage after being noticed by a reporter at a local Fox television affiliate.
The words “HIGHER TAXES” are transposed on an image of Obama standing in front of a crowd. The background is blurred at the edges so that the words from Obama’s signature theme — change — has been cut down to the word “HANG.” The shot appears for about a second. You can watch the ad in its entirety below.
Asked about the image, the McCain camp said, “We’re not even validating such an outrageous and preposterous claim with a comment.”
Strikingly, the image of Obama with the word hang in the background is blurred far more heavily on the side where the C would have been, suggesting the decision was intentional. The company that produced the ad refused to comment when the local Fox affiliate inquired.
Not everyone is buying the claim the transposition is deliberate. Even at the liberal blog Daily Kos, an informal poll indicated 76 percent thought the image was deliberate, with 23 percent saying it was a coincidence.
“Is this a coincidence?” one diarist wrote. “People spend hours and hours editing political ads, I really don’t see how this could go unnoticed by the editors. Maybe they saw it and thought it wasn’t noticeable or maybe they thought it wasn’t important.”
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_ad_questioned_as_word_HANG_0828.html
Thirty Years of a Failed Democrat Energy Policy
By Alan Caruba
Millions will tune in to hear Sen. Barack Obama’s acceptance speech as the Democrat Party’s choice to be the next President of the United States. For Americans, the need to pay particular attention to his speech is essential if we are to escape thirty years of a failed Democrat energy policy.
From the days President Jimmy Carter installed solar panels on the roof of the White House and secured a windfall profit taxes on American oil companies, this nation has been made vulnerable to our enemies by emphasizing alternative energy and biofuels as the answer to our growing need for oil and electrical power.
The windfall profits tax led to the decline of the oil industry’s investments in oil exploration and extraction in the United States, and to their understandable reluctance to invest billions in the building of much needed refineries.
Congress, since 2006, has been controlled by Democrats as the majority party. In the Senate, Harry Reid, the Majority Leader, has said that “Oil makes us sick. Coal makes us sick. Global warming makes us sick.” This is such blatant nonsense that, were it spoken by anyone else, it would be easily dismissed. However, Sen. Reid controls the legislative agenda of the U.S. Senate! His counterpart in the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, has said that her job is to “save the planet.”
We should consider the total lack of any substantive legislation the Democrat Congress has produced in the two years they have been in control. We should consider the prospects if they are permitted to continue and their candidate should become President. For this reason alone we should listen closely to Sen. Obama.
Fact: Global warming was and is a hoax. Thousands of scientists worldwide have dismissed the false computer models on which it is based, but more importantly at this time is the fact that the Earth has been demonstrably cooling for at least a decade.
Even the venerable Farmer’s Almanac predicts “below average temperatures for most of the U.S.” The 192-year-old publication which claims an accurate rate of 80 to 85 percent for its forecasts, prepared two years in advance, says in its 2009 edition that at least two-thirds of the country can expect “colder-than-average temperatures this winter, with only the Far West and Southeast in line for near-normal readings.” “This is going to be catastrophic for millions of people,” said editor Peter Geiger.
I will tell you what also will be catastrophic: the election of Sen. Barack Obama and a Democrat Congress if their thirty years of attacks on the American oil industry continue, along with their thirty years of support for biofuels, ethanol, and so-called “alternative energy” or “clean energy.” As my friend, Seldon Graham, Jr., with fifty years’ experience as a petroleum engineer and attorney, says, “The U.S. needs to eliminate both ethanol and foreign oil. If it is worth fighting for in the Middle East, it is worth drilling for in the United States.”
You will not hear such straight talk from Sen. Obama and you have not heard it from the leadership of the Democrat Party. Instead you have heard the steady drumbeat of attacks on the American oil industry and the advocacy of failed energy policies that cost Americans millions at the gas pump and leave millions vulnerable to high costs when they heat their homes this winter.
Even Sen. McCain, who still believes the global warming hoax, has called for off-shore drilling. That is a small step in the right direction. A pragmatist, he will no doubt come to see the folly of further legislative programs to address a non-existent global warming threat, but it will be Sen. Obama’s energy policies that hold the greatest threat to the nation’s economy and future.
http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2008/08/thirty-years-of-failed-democrat-energy.html
Oh, my – get a load of this news item:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,412661,00.html
Apparently languishing in his search for the real killers, poor little O.J. has been b–ch-slapped by his own daughter. And, shockeroo of all shockers – the COPS had to be summoned! Wow! Was Mark Furhman among ‘em?
Oh, wait – Fuhrman was disgraced – I forgot. He’s now an ex-cop-turned-crimewriter who actually helped bring the killer of Martha Moxley to justice.
Oh, my goodness – how do I love Orenthal James Simpson? Let me count the ways………
Is it that 1985 video I saw in 1995 – where the has-been NFL running back boasts of “rapin’ Nicole on their first date” while a sycophant giggles in the background? Gee, that might be part of it.
Was it the fact that he butchered two people and got away with it – while large numbers of the African-American commununity looked the other way? That’s a nice, big slice of the pie, too.
Was it the woeful testaments of more than a few jurors from the criminal trial that really, really turned me off? Was it Johnnie Cochran’s grandstanding and obfuscatin’ that curled my flesh? Yeah, that’s part of it, too.
But mostly, I just despise The Juice – a whole, awful lot. Laughin’ about rapin’ ain’t something even the most hardened criminals usually laugh about on camera.
Next time kick his a$$ while you’re at it, Arnelle. You obviously didn’t do a good enough job this time.
Where were the prayed for storms?
Where were the dittoheads that promised to wreak havoc on the Dem Convention?
Where are the McShame’s supporters (even with GIVING tickets away he can’t fill a few thousand seats)?
Good morning Mr Walker,
Grid losses aren’t nearly as high as you state. The grid is old and not up to the job of being able to utilize all of the ‘greenie’ energy sources but then a lot of that is due to problems caused by the ‘greenies’!
Grid losses are less than 10%.
http://www.energetics.com/gridworks/grid.html
CAPN IS A LIAR.
When he writes:
“I have Raptor on “ignore” these days.
If he wrote something about me, I wouldn’t have seen it.”
he is LYING. There is no “ignore” feature on this blog. Once again, proof positive that capn is nothing but a liar.
He makes outrageous statements, and throws a hissy fit when confronted for facts. Backing off with “I meant to say” etc., etc. Then he comes up with this nonsense. He can dish it out..but he sure canNOT take it.
CAPN IS A LIAR.
I had an interesting experience yesterday…one you occasionally read about online or in the paper, or hear about on TV. I was pumping gas at a local convenience store and realized that the price was set at $.359 per gallon. My question to all of you is this…What would you have done?
My answer later…
Raptor is a Bush whore.
that was really intelligent there, native. can’t handle the truth about your idol? What did I say to indicate any support of Bush whatsoever? I am making a true statement that capn is a liar. And that is all you have?
get a life you pathetic loser.
“KansasNative” asks –
“Where were the prayed for storms?”
I wondered about that for a moment, too.
When it turned out the weather was clear and bright, warm in the afternoon and cooler than lately when the sun went down, I wondered if perhaps God said the Fundies’ prayers for torrents of flood and lightning abomination against the heathen Democrats might be over the top.
God answered the twice-borns’ prayers: He said, “No. I may be omnipotent, but there are limits!”
“Where were the dittoheads that promised to wreak havoc on the Dem Convention?”
I think they comprised the four meth heads who were arrested in Aurora last Monday. Or, as Limbaugh calls ‘em, “My base.”
“Where are the McShame’s supporters (even with GIVING tickets away he can’t fill a few thousand seats)?”
I think it was “Franklin” who declared that it’s no feat to attract an 80,000+ crowd. So I’m expecting similar numbers to show up in Minnesota next week to see
DorfJohn S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) attract millions to his acceptance speech.I’ll even let him salt the act with McC*nt’s favorite rock stars. Maybe ABBA will get back together again. Maybe Ken Greenwood will get back together agains! And consent to sing a medley of his hit!
No CON or Republic Party partisan has anything positive to say about McBush.
i>”What does it say about your judgment if you think George WMD Bush has been right 90% of the time?”
Happy 72nd Birthday, Senator McBush. Just think: when your daddy was your age he’d been dead for a couple of years.
HEHEHEHE
It looks like McCain is going to hit a home run with his pick for VP.
Rumor has it that it will be Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska!
hahahahahah
WOW! Grand slam! Working class background, knowledgeable in oil/energy issues, ability to work with both parties, smart, fiscally responsible. Hope it is true….would be absolutely awesome!
ISSUE
JOHN McCAIN
BARAK OBAMA
Favors new drilling offshore US
Yes
No
Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
Yes
No
Served in the US Armed Forces
Yes
No
Amount of time served in the US Senate
22 YEARS
173 DAYS
Will institute a socialized national health care plan
No
Yes
Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
No
Yes
Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
No
Yes
Supports gun ownership rights
Yes
No
Supports homosexual marriage
No
Yes
Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
No
Yes
Voted against making English the official language
No
Yes
Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
No
Yes
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.
OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN
15% (no change)
OBAMA
39.6% – (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K – tax $4,500
Single making 50K – tax $12,500
Single making 75K – tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K – tax $18,750
Married making 125K – tax $31,250
OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K – tax $8,400
Single making 50K – tax $14,000
Single making 75K – tax $23,250
Married making 60K – tax $16,800
Married making 75K – tax $21,000
Married making 125K – tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.
NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren’t high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least….New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!
John McCain announces VP running mate!!!
“After much thought and consideration, I’m picking Nurse Ratched as my running mate. She had much to offer , including free and frequent medical treatment!!”, the Senator added.
The word now is that McCain’s VP pick is going to be Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska.
From an email…
Dear Friend,
As it stands now, Bob Barr is the Lone Candidate in the Lone Star State.
As the filing deadline passed this week, Bob Barr was the only presidential candidate legally certified on the ballot in Texas.
The new Texas law is clear:
A political party is entitled to have the names of its nominees for president and vice-president of the United States placed on the ballot in a presidential general election if . . . before 5 p.m. of the 70th day before presidential election day, the party’s state chair signs and delivers to the secretary of state a written certification of the names of the party’s nominees for president and vice-president . . .
Given that the deadline passed on Tuesday, Senator Obama was nominated on Wednesday, and Senator McCain has not even announced his selection for Vice President, the Republican and Democrat parties in Texas were technically unable to certify their candidates by the deadline.
However, I have a sneaking suspicion that the ballot situation in Texas will magically correct itself.
Since we sent out our release yesterday regarding Bob being the only presidential candidate certified in Texas, a spokeswoman for the Texas Secretary of State’s office stated that, “Upon further checking, both parties filed before the deadline. We expect their amended filings after both parties finish their nominating process at the conventions.”
Upon further checking . . .
Hmmm . . .
As it turns out, upon further checking , we were able to collect 10,000 more signatures in West Virginia a few days after that early deadline passed.
Upon further checking, we found that ballot substitution is permitted in Massachusetts and Pennsylvania.
Also, upon further checking, we found that Maine stopped accepting our petitions a week earlier than they had done in the past.
Not to mention that, upon further checking, we do object to the state of New Hampshire insisting that two libertarian candidates for president be listed on the ballot.
Finally, upon further checking, we found that the signature thresholds in Oklahoma are a bit too high.
Will our diligence pay off for us in West Virginia, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine and Oklahoma where we have active interests?
Do you think that John McCain and Barack Obama’s names will eventually be printed on the ballot in Texas?
I would be willing to make an educated guess and say that we’re going to have to fight our hearts out to get on the ballot in the states above while the Republican and Democrat candidates won’t have to lift a finger to secure their place on the Texas ballot.
This lies in stark contrast to what the media is trying to feed us ! ! !
Your Social Security BUD.
Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (and some older ones) didn’t know this, it’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure to show it to your kids. They need a little history lesson on what’s what.
And it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts!!!
Our Social Security
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:
1.) That participation in the program would be completely voluntary
2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the program
3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year
4.) That the money the participants paid would be put into the ‘Independent Trust Fund’ rather than into the
General Operating Fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security retirement program, and no other government program, and
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then find that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the federal government to ‘put away’–you may be interested in the following.
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Q:
Which political party took Social Security from the Independent Trust Fund and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democrat- controlled House and Senate.
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Q:
Which political party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democratic Party.
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Q:
Which political party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the tie-breaking deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US
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AND MY FAVORITE:
Q: Which political party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
A: That’s right!
Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!
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Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!
And the worst part about it is–uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe
not. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so.
But it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?
Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.
AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!
A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have.
Thomas Jefferson
Palin would be an interesting choice.
Had to go to Wiki though, didn’t know much about her.
Details of Palin’s personal life have contributed to her political image. She hunts, eats moose burgers, ice fishes, rides snowmobiles, and owns a float plane.[6][7] Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association
Evidently, she was nicknamed Sarah “Barracuda” because of her intense play as a point guard on her State Champion basketball team.
Good looking too. :D
It’s OK Annie Moose, we’ve got your back and you won’t be made into a burger!
won’t be made into a burger!
LMAO. Good 1
“Where were the prayed for storms?” — ks nat
Coming to disrupt the Republican Convention.
Yes, the Pukes will have to pick a relative unknown, because everyone with experience has too much negative baggage.
Hum, another upstanding liberal commentator.
“With his sobbing family looking on in a San Francisco courtroom, former KGO radio host Bernie Ward today completed his tumble from one of the Bay Area’s most popular liberal voices on the local airwaves to a pariah caught up in the world of online child pornography.
Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker sentenced Ward to seven years and three months in federal prison, calling the disgraced celebrity a “troubled individual”
Oh. So McCain is going to “pick” Gov. Palin of Alaska? I see.
After last night’s total destruction, the stink of death is all over John McCain. Romney, Pawlenty, and Lieberman–I’d lay money that all of them withdrew their names from consideration. They want to have careers once the Obama landslide buries John McCain.
“Grid losses aren’t nearly as high as you state. The grid is old and not up to the job of being able to utilize all of the ‘greenie’ energy sources but then a lot of that is due to problems caused by the ‘greenies’!” — HLP
Yep, the greenies snuck out at night and changed the conductivity of metals. Them greenies.
Funny he picked the Gov of Alaska. More Alaskans voted for Ron Paul than McCain…
Box…say is isn’t so? A LIB is a convicted criminal?? Man, reading the posts here, you would have to assume that is simply NOT POSSIBLE!
//sarcasm off//
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SolDevVB
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:53 am | Permalink
Funny he picked the Gov of Alaska. More Alaskans voted for Ron Paul than McCain…
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If it is true about the Palin choice, perhaps not as funny as you think.
Anyone know about WSClark? Haven’t seen him around in quite a while.
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SolDevVB
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:56 am | Permalink
Anyone know about WSClark? Haven’t seen him around in quite a while.
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He’s in Florida making his annual pilgrimage to his father’s house.
perhaps not as funny as you think.
I don’t follow. What do you mean?
Sol, he told us he was going to Florida to care for his Dad and I think would return shortly before the election. Probably doing what needs to be done and will return when it’s possible.
BTW, do you have a throw-away email, Sol?
He’s in Florida
Thanx.
There won’t be an Obama landslide. He’s fighting a 15 to 30 percent race penalty among whites.
SolDevVB@Hotmail.com
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SolDevVB
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:58 am | Permalink
perhaps not as funny as you think.
I don’t follow. What do you mean?
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To gather up the Ron Paul supporters I suppose?
Well, I thought the ‘crats put on a pretty good show. But this process is kind of like a civil trial. The plaintiff goes first and presents their best case. Now they have to set back and watch the other side put on their evidence.
The ‘crats biggest problem is their fluffy, cotton candy candidate. Let’s hope that that can be pounded home.
Still, it was good to see a black family up on that podium last night. That alone, was the greatest statement the Democrats could have possibly made to me about their philosphy. It looks like the Pukes may counter with Annie Oakley. God, I love and hate this country.
Future commercial showing how Obama hates what America stands for and his resistance to anything showing the American national symbol, our flga.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0ycYEGtqU
flga=flag
To gather up the Ron Paul supporters I suppose?
Couldn’t be farther from the truth. McCain stepped on it by not reaching out to the Paul supporters. Don’t even know if that would have helped.
maybe 1/4 to 1/8 the size of the Clinton supporters, we were thrown under the bus as well. At leaset Obama had the sense to reach out to the Clinton supporters.
First question: Should a VP be qualified to step into the office of President? Then, is a fluffy cotton female candidate not such a problem? After all she does eat moose burgers and hunts and is good lookin’.
“A federal grand jury returned a three-count indictment against U.S. District Court Judge Samuel B. Kent, 59, for abusive sexual contact and attempted aggravated sexual abuse.” — http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/FedCrimes/story?id=5681319&page=1
The judge was a Bush appointee. Who’d have thought a Bush appointee would try to force his employees into giving blowjobs?
Just a reminder that sexual offenses are non-partisan.
The VP question is quite valid. McCain is old and worn. The presidency is hard on a body. He could kick off.
You have to see the reality of an Obama assasination. There are people out there just dumb and of kilter enough to do it.
Don’t know much about Biden, but Palin has done a pretty decent job in Alaska and is well liked.
She was over 12 years old…amazing!
The Repugnants should give him a medal!
Oh come on Predestined, you’re just too easy now.
You know that was intended as a joke, especially after the questioning I gave him earlier.
You Dems need to lighten up and laugh more.
It was late when I was able to get back to this, and I admit I’ve forgotten what the first to sentences above are in reference to, but the last?
Laugh more? Hee hee I had been and still am laughing. I love the smell of panic from the right. I love that we on the left have not one, but a plethora of people who can speak the truth and speak it well enough for others to understand it clearly. I love that we don’t have to stoop to throwing around the absurdity that people like Franklin do, just to get a little attention.
In short, laughter is good for the soul, and my soul is doing just fine. :)
did anyone see me on cnn? Apparently I was on there- and didn’t get to see it!
Boxlock–
All those lies you posted about Social Security have been long ago debunked as lies.
Check Snopes.com.
But as we well know from long experience, if a lie agrees with the RepubliCONs’ preconceived notions, it never dies.
did anyone see me on cnn?
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no
I don’t have a wide screen t.v. p.m.
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Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:29 am | Permalink
did anyone see me on cnn? Apparently I was on there- and didn’t get to see it!
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On there for what?
I suppose one would have to know what you looked like as well.
THIS JUST IN–Cindy McCain’s sister is voting for Obama.
Ouch!
Is Sarah a protege of Ted Stevens?
Oh lord, we’ll here the Drill slogan even more times than the pow story!
Rumor has it that it will be Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska!
Which is kind of a surprise. From what I’ve read about Gov. Palin, she tends to lean to the left.
I’d lay odds this doesn’t last until Nov. 4. Considering McCain’s propensity for denigrating women, she may shoot him.
Cindy is probably voting for obama.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-68162
Well here you go then.
So you’re saying Obama’s base is piqued women, p.m.?
Well, you’re right them. He’ll lose.
Flaubert was right.
Well here you go then.
That you PMom?
Yesterday JoeWilliams I mean ictBest wrote this:
“But the Rich get richer, because they keep on doing the things that make the rich. The poor get poorer, because they keep on doing the things that make them poor. And the so called, people who are doing okay (gov term, middle class) keep on doing the things that make them okay.”
This is part of the right-wing article of faith that the economy is the way it is because it’s natural and right to be that way.
But Joe, I mean ictBest, why did wages go down 2,000 dollars under Bush and go up 7,500 under Clinton? Why did last month, July, see the biggest drop in wages in years?
Weren’t the rich doing what the rich do and the poor doing what the poor do then too?
Why did we have high tax rates in the early 60’s and the fastest wage and GDP growth the US has ever seen at the same time?
Joe? Joe?
That’s me Sol.
CapnAmerica Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:29 am |
“Boxlock–
All those lies you posted about Social Security have been long ago debunked as lies.
Check Snopes.com.”
I did check Snopes and you are the one lying there Capn.
The Snopes entry most closely reading like what I posted says “Multiple”. Here is a direct copy and paste from Snopes:
Claim: E-mail details changes made to Social Security over the years.
Status: Multiple — see below.
SOCIAL SECURITY:
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:
1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,
2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,
3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,
4.) That the money the participants put into the independent “Trust Fund” rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to “put away,” you may be interested in the following:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent “Trust” fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically-controlled House and Senate.
Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democratic Party.
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the “tie-breaking” deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S.
Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
MY FAVORITE :
A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive SSI Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!
Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violation of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!
And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it!
Perhaps you need to check closer yourself, and stop with the false defense of the Democrats lies.
Cap’N,
Indeed. I’m not much of one for speculating who does and doesn’t pick up new posting nics, but the inability to use the plural form of “leftist” was the tell: welcome back, Joe Williams.
America saw what a true Uniter looks like last night.
From Capn’s note, you’d have to conclude that high taxes equal prosperity. The ‘crats think like that.
Of course it is recognized idiocy to isolate a couple of facts and conclude that there is a cause and effect relationship.
““But the Rich get richer, because they keep on doing the things that make the rich. The poor get poorer, because they keep on doing the things that make them poor. And the so called, people who are doing okay (gov term, middle class) keep on doing the things that make them okay.”
Ahh The Natural Order! Now I get it.
HA HA HA!
Sarah Palin evidently leaned on the Alaska Department of Public Safety to fire a state trooper–not just any state trooper, but a former brother-in-law who was involved in a nasty custody fight with Palin’s sister.
“AK Gov. Says Staffer Pressed for Trooper’s Firing
By Kate Klonick – August 13, 2008, 9:53PM
In a press conference this afternoon, Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) conceded that someone inside her administration pressured the state’s Department of Public Safety to fire State Trooper Mike Wooten, Palin’s former brother-in-law, who is now embroiled in a bitter custody battle with Palin’s sister.
Palin’s statement is the latest in what has come to be known around Alaska as “Wooten-gate.” The scandal began on July 11, when Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan was fired from his post with little explanation, a move that quickly raised questions in Alaska.
A few days later, Monegan came forward, stating that he had been pressured by those around Palin to fire Wooten — but had refused to do so — a choice that he believes led to his sudden dismissal. Palin denied Monegan’s accusations, and a Legislative Council has appointed a special commission to probe the matter.
In today’s conference, Palin said that state troopers had taped a phone call from Frank Bailey, Palin’s director of boards and commissions whom she appointed last August, in which Bailey inquired about having Wooten fired.
At the press conference today, Palin distanced herself from Bailey’s actions claiming that he acted alone, but the recordings suggest that he was acting at her instigation.”
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/ak_gov_says_staffer_pressed_for_troopers_firing.php
I think Vice-President Palin’s misuse of her office and the Alaska justice system shows that she’ll fit right in with a Republican Administration.
Seriously: if this is the best McCain can do for a VP, it speaks volumes about how far and fast credible Repubicans are running away from him.
I think Vice-President Palin’s misuse of her office and the Alaska justice system shows that she’ll fit right in with a Republican Administration.
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Vice-president Palin? Chuckle…
Seriously, I think that this is a genius pick.
I think Palin is purdy….But seriously, I think it is a good choice, maybe not the best choice. But we will see.
I wonder if McCain thinks that by picking a female VP he will get the Clinton supporters backing. Kinda doubt they are going to throw their support for the first female they see.
Don’t know enough about her, but she does seem to be a good pick on first glance of her resume.
Hank,
Alan Caruba is not a credible source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Caruba
outlander,
“Seriously, I think this is a genius pick.”
Yeah. You would.
Hey Raptor,
I want’really aware of your politics until recently,not that it changes my opinion of you.Unlike some of the smaller minds on this blog I believe that politics don’t make the person. Anyone who judges a person soley on their political beliefs is,in my estimation, a fool.
cosmos_originally look into OCD.
Anyone who judges a person soley on their political beliefs is,in my estimation, a fool.
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Tru Dat home squirrel.
Worthless Computer Models
In his interview, Dyson points out from long experience that models packed with numerous “fudge factors” are worthless.
As a mathematician and physicist, Dyson is known for the unification of three versions of quantum electrodynamics, as well as for contributions to space flight and the development of a safe nuclear reactor used today by hospitals and universities around the world. But today he is known more widely as a scientific heretic for disagreeing with claims of a central human role in global warming.
In his 2005 winter commencement address at the University of Michigan, Dyson said the mathematical computer models on which the alarmist claims are based “do a very poor job of describing the clouds, the dust, the chemistry, and the biology of fields, farms, and forests. They do not begin to describe the real world that we live in.”
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=23701
ANTI,
OCD? Tell that to Hank, who copy/pastes dumb posts almost EVERY morning.
cosmos_originally
Posted August 29, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink
ANTI,
OCD? Tell that to Hank, who copy/pastes dumb posts almost EVERY morning.
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Hank, look into OCD treatment for cosmos.
Considering McCain’s propensity for denigrating women, she may shoot him — Pre
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;-)
And the question would be what qualifications does she have to be POTUS? Ya know, considering all the time McCain spends telling us how Obama isn’t ready, doesn’t have the qualifications…
Guess that’s just one more area where he says something he doesn’t stand behind. The man’s “deeply-held convictions” never fail to amaze me! Somebody tell him what he should be believing and saying today — QUICK! He will be speaking soon and can’t remember where he was let alone what he was supposed to be saying.
Maybe he can tell us a story.
Solar Influence Ignored
In Solomon’s interview with Friis-Christensen, the scientist states he was originally optimistic about the work IPCC would do in studying the sun’s influence on climate change. To his surprise, however, IPCC refused to consider the sun’s effect on the Earth’s climate as a topic worthy of investigation. IPCC conceived its task only as investigating potential human causes of climate change.
That is a huge omission, Abdussamatov points out. He notes there has been global warming on other planets and moons in the solar system, and this demonstrates other forces may be at work regarding the Earth’s moderate recent warming. “Mars has global warming, but without a greenhouse and without the participation of Martians,” he observes.
Abdussamatov, at the pinnacle of Russia’s scientific establishment, is one of the world’s most eminent critics of the notion carbon dioxide is driving global warming. He argues these “parallel global-warmings observed simultaneously on Mars and on Earth–can only be a straight line consequence of the effect of the one same factor: a long-time change in solar irradiance.”
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=23701
Cooling Coming Soon
Abdussamatov believes the recent global warming will be short-lived and that we are actually on the brink of a global cooling, and likely a severe one. He argues Earth has hit its temperature ceiling, demonstrated by cooling currently occurring in the upper layers of the world’s oceans.
In addition, Abddussamatov notes, solar irradiance has begun to fall, likely ushering in a protracted cooling period beginning in 2012-2015.
The lowest depth of the solar irradiance reaching Earth will occur around 2041 (plus or minus 11 years), Abdussamatov estimates, and will inevitably lead to a deep freeze around 2055-60. The freeze will last into the twenty-second century before temperatures rise again. For now, he says, “we continue to bask in the remains of heat that the planet accumulated over the twentieth century.”
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=23701
The Discovery of Global Warming
Timeline (Milestones)
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/timeline.htm
The coming cooling…
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/ArcticCanada.JPG
Well, here ya go PMom! Rove says this one is FOR YOU!
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“Karl Rove said this morning on Fox News Channel: “It would be a clear sign from the McCain campaign that they were going to be making a very strong bid for the women whom they see up for grabs — both the traditional, swing independent suburbanites and then the Hillary Clinton supporters who remain disillusioned.”
Palin was a star at a young age in Alaska — a member of the Wasilla basketball team that won the state championship (her aggressive style won her the nickname “Sarah Barracuda”) in 1982 and Miss Wasilla two years later.
Palin’s political career began a decade later when she was elected to the Wasilla City Council and, four years after that, in 1996, she won the mayorship — knocking off the incumbent by just a handful of votes.”
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/08/mccain_picks_palin.html?hpid=topnews
SolDevVB,
It’s the sun? Mars is warming, etc? Your posts prove that you’re gullible and/or confused.
Your posts are debunked at,
http://www.skepticalscience.com/
Snowpack Study Shows No Long-Term Climate Change Signal
By Phyllis Fletcher, KUOW News
A new study from the University of Washington indicates that climate change may not be the reason snowpack is shrinking in the Cascade Mountains. The finding is in contrast with science and policy that have dominated the discussion of snowpack, flood, and water resources.
The new study is authored by several atmospheric scientists, including KUOW regular Cliff Mass. Mass says the amount of snowpack has not changed appreciably in the last 30 years. He and his colleagues argue that much of the change in the last century could be attributed to a weather pattern that has nothing to do with global warming caused by human activity.
http://kuow.org/program.php?id=15532
“Palin is a mother of five — including a newborn with special needs — which led many people to speculate that she would not ultimately be the pick. During an interview with washingtonpost.com earlier this year in Washington, Palin said being picked as the vice president was an “impossibility” but that the idea of serving in national office intrigued her.”
One always needs a Vice President that loves to shoot and hunt.
Makes the fellow hunters ‘duck and cover’ when a shot is fired. :)
Maybe she and cheney could plan an outing together?
Palin is a mother of five
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She looks good for having five kids. If I had that many kids I would look as run down as Bob Dole!
Weekly Standard wrote: “She resigned in January 2004 as head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission after complaining to the office of Governor Frank Murkowski and to state Attorney General Gregg Renkes about ethical violations by another commissioner, Randy Ruedrich, who was also Republican state chairman. State law barred Palin from speaking out publicly about ethical violations and corruption. But she was vindicated later in 2004 when Ruedrich, who’d been reconfirmed as state chairman, agreed to pay a $12,000 fine for breaking state ethics laws. She became a hero in the eyes of the public and the press, and the bane of Republican leaders.”
She’s a beauty queen — another trophy for McCain!
National Geographic…
Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
NASA
The planet Mars is undergoing significant global warming, new data from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) show, lending support to many climatologists’ claims that the Earth’s modest warming during the past century is due primarily to a recent upsurge in solar energy.
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17977
Well, please. I thought Obama sounded a bit too much like Martin Luther King mixed with Lyndon Johnson. I’ll vote for him of course. May my hand be cut off if I ever use it to vote for a Republican. Obama, of course, is a good speaker, but the salient points of his speech were mixed with faux-patriotism and slogans. America didn’t promise me anything, thank you, though I got a hell of a break by being born here.
We don’t know what we will get with Obama. If the public record, and the media glitz contain a kernel of truth, he’ll probably be a leader who places logic and good sense over partisanship. Some of the things he says simply escape notice, though they are revolutionary in concept. Obama plans to make his health care plan work by making us healthy. If you think Big Brother bothers you now, wait for the publically sponsored propaganda under Obama concerning our health choices. But every million he spends on it will reap tens of millions in reduced health care costs.
It’s the same philosophy he has in regard to conservation. The barrel of oil not used is more effective in weaning us from foreign oil, than the barrel locally produced. “Make yourself lean, make yourself efficient,” that’s his message. That’s the way out of the crisis. That’s the change he seeks. Can he do it? Probably not. Can you do it? Probably not. Can I do it? Probably not, but I’m trying.
What he says is so irreducibly true anybody can see it. And the Pukes, what do they have to throw against it? Bullshit about a Weatherman’s activity when Obama was eight. Crap about an imaginary Arab lineage, when his dad was as black as a coal train, and his mom was whiter than Cindy McCain, Horror stories about how he skipped voting for a Republican-sponsored bill which would have allowed employers to euthanize their workers and sell their organs. What they should worry about is government-sponsored health clubs, and vegetable cooking seminars.
Yes, they do have a couple of advantages. The white vote, and the legitimate concern that Obama is not experienced enough to be President.
But we know what McCain would do. More bluster, more bullshit, more braggadocio, designed, it seems, to push us toward some war or another.
I’ll take my chances with the unknown.
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cosmos_originally
Posted August 29, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink
Hank,
Alan Caruba is not a credible source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Caruba
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It’s a political commentary, you flaming nitwit. And he’s more than credible to me!
looking for something to do this weekend these events are a blast
http://www.ldrs27.org/
Free–I don’t understand your post about knowing my politics? I really don’t have any, being registered Independent. A lot of my posts are vain attempts to bring some reality to the ridiculous claims made here without backup/fact or any type of validation. Some of the outright hatred based on political thought is unbelievable.
The people who claim how all people who believe one way are horrid murderers or how all people who vote one way are mindless criminals just do not make any sense. I have stated more than once that I do not believe either party is “better” or commands a higher moral ground than the other, that both schools of political thought have their share of reprehensible and admirable people in them.
I do counter the lib attack mode more often, because it seems to me that the most extreme attacks come from that quarter. Examples abound…how “all CONs follow their master Rush” or the use of juvenile variations, “pukes” to describe a party are simply that, juvenile.
So..my politics? I don’t see anyone worth voting for in November.
Hey ANTI,
I don’t know about OCD, but I am starting to suffer a little from TMB syndrome.
I don’t bounce anymore.
Would a “flaming nitwit” contribute to global warming, or air pollution???
Palin, the first Alaskan governor born after statehood, was actually born and raised in Sandpoint, Idaho. She is the mother of five (see family photo below) and is married to a native Alaskan, Todd Palin, who is a seasonal fisherman and an oil field worker offseason. He races snowmobiles on vacation.
The governor is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Assn., an ardent hunter and outdoorswoman (her family has its own float plane) and is a sure bet to please the antiabortion wing of the Republican Party.
When prenatal genetic testing of their fifth child showed he had Down syndrome last spring, the couple went ahead with the birth in May and now talk of him as the joy of their life.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/mccain-palin-vp.html
The governor is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Assn., an ardent hunter and outdoorswoman (her family has its own float plane) and is a sure bet to please the antiabortion wing of the Republican Party.
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Got my vote.
“The McCain campaign had make little secret of the fact that they wanted to pick a woman as the Arizona senator’s running mate, believing that the rift caused by the protracted primary between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton gave them an opportunity to pick up scads of disgruntled women.”
Wall Street Journal
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The women I’ve spoken to who support(ed) Senator Clinton did so because she was a qualified woman, not because she was a woman.
HLP posted August 29, 2008 at 10:55 am
“It’s a political commentary, you flaming nitwit. And he’s more than credible to me!”
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Someone being “credible” to Hank doesn’t mean anything. Hank seems to believe that CCS would make coal “clean”.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/08/open-thread-826-2/#comment-409674
HEHEHEHE
Our ticket has the babe! Come on dems, beat up on the girl! See how far that gets ya!
HEHEHEHE
Cosmos, AGW is make believe. Like unicorns.
Hapiness is a warm gun and a hot babe……and a cold beer.
TMB?
Too Much Butt?
hapiness=happiness
TMB?
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Treacherous Moustache and Beard
SolDevVB posted August 29, 2008 at 10:51 am
“National Geographic…
Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says”
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
“Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet’s recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist’s controversial theory.
Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. (Get an overview: “Global Warming Fast Facts”.)
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Abdussamatov’s work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists.
“His views are completely at odds with the mainstream scientific opinion,” said Colin Wilson, a planetary physicist at England’s Oxford University.
“And they contradict the extensive evidence presented in the most recent IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] report.” (Related: “Global Warming ‘Very Likely’ Caused by Humans, World Climate Experts Say” [February 2, 2007].)
Amato Evan, a climate scientist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, added that “the idea just isn’t supported by the theory or by the observations.” “
Abdussamatov’s work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists.
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So.
No, Adding Palin to his abysmal record of treating women like crap will not aid him in getting my vote.
Palin is a woman who likes to kick the ladder down after women after her.
I don’t see anyone worth voting for either. The reason I made the statement is that you seem to get a lot of attacks by the libs, so I figured you were for Bush. I apologize for jumping to a HUGE conclusion. To bad they don’t have a space marked none of the above on the ballot.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-mars.htm
“Conclusion
The empirical evidence isn’t conclusive on whether global warming is happening on Mars.
However, to answer the question on whether the sun is causing Earth’s global warming, there is plentiful data on solar activity and Earth’s climate. Many papers have examined this data, concluding the correlation between sun and climate ended in the 70’s when the modern global warming trend began.”
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
Hank,
I have to agree. For being the mother of 5 she is a hottie.
“And they contradict the extensive evidence presented in the most recent IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] report.”
Well of course they do.
Solar Influence Ignored
In Solomon’s interview with Friis-Christensen, the scientist states he was originally optimistic about the work IPCC would do in studying the sun’s influence on climate change. To his surprise, however, IPCC refused to consider the sun’s effect on the Earth’s climate as a topic worthy of investigation. IPCC conceived its task only as investigating potential human causes of climate change.
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Now cosmos, do you really want me to drag out all the lies the IPCC put into its last draft report?
Well, it looks like McCain wants to win after all. How it must suck to be a dem right now. You’re stuck with Joe Biden. Can we all say LOSER.
Twelve hours after that awful spectacle in Denver last night, McCain totally blows Obama off the air with his bold awesome pick of Sarah Palin as his VP. Never saw that one coming did you? Good looking, pro life , pro gun, opposes gay marriage, wants to drill ANWAR, brought a law suit against the Feds to block an attempt to declare the polar bear endangered as a way of blocking drilling in Alaska. And contrary to what you said earlier Linda, a lot of women just wanted to vote for a women not necessarily because they loved Hillary. Sarah Palin will do just fine for them.
Palin is a woman who likes to kick the ladder down after women after her.
Any links?
It will be interesting to see what Obama’s numbers do after Mcain’s VP pick. I think it very well could damage his post convention bounce. I think Mcain was very shrewd in announcing his pick the day after the Dem convention.
“When prenatal genetic testing of their fifth child showed he had Down syndrome last spring, the couple went ahead with the birth in May and now talk of him as the joy of their life. ” — Ms. Inks.
Now why do you suppose they had prenatal genetic testing done? Because if they child had turned out to be a hopless genetic sport, or was doomed in the womb to death, she would have had an abortion! Thre’s no other reason to do it.
That would be an interesting statistic. What percentage of pro-lifers have genetic tests prior to birth?
Beber you know this as a fact because?
SolDevVB,
The IPCC did not “ignore” solar activity.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
“The most commonly cited study by skeptics is a study by scientists from Finland and Germany that finds the sun has been more active in the last 60 years than anytime in the past 1150 years (Usoskin 2005). They also found temperatures closely correlate to solar activity.
However, a crucial finding of the study was the correlation between solar activity and temperature ended around 1975. At that point, temperatures rose while solar activity stayed level. This led them to conclude “during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.”
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Other studies on solar influence on climate
This conclusion is confirmed by many studies quantifying the amount of solar influence in recent global warming:
Solanki 2008 reconstructs 11,400 years of sunspot numbers using radiocarbon concentrations, finding “solar variability is unlikely to have been the dominant cause of the strong warming during the past three decades”.
* Ammann 2007: “Although solar and volcanic effects appear to dominate most of the slow climate variations within the past thousand years, the impacts of greenhouse gases have dominated since the second half of the last century.”
* Lockwood 2007 concludes “the observed rapid rise in global mean temperatures seen after 1985 cannot be ascribed to solar variability, whichever of the mechanism is invoked and no matter how much the solar variation is amplified.”
* Foukal 2006 concludes “The variations measured from spacecraft since 1978 are too small to have contributed appreciably to accelerated global warming over the past 30 years.”
* Scafetta 2006 says “since 1975 global warming has occurred much faster than could be reasonably expected from the sun alone.”
* Usoskin 2005 conclude “during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.”
* Haigh 2003 says “Observational data suggest that the Sun has influenced temperatures on decadal, centennial and millennial time-scales, but radiative forcing considerations and the results of energy-balance models and general circulation models suggest that the warming during the latter part of the 20th century cannot be ascribed entirely to solar effects.”
* Stott 2003 increased climate model sensitivity to solar forcing and still found “most warming over the last 50 yr is likely to have been caused by increases in greenhouse gases.”
* Solanki 2003 concludes “the Sun has contributed less than 30% of the global warming since 1970″.
* Lean 1999 concludes “it is unlikely that Sun–climate relationships can account for much of the warming since 1970″.
* Waple 1999 finds “little evidence to suggest that changes in irradiance are having a large impact on the current warming trend.”
* Frolich 1998 concludes “solar radiative output trends contributed little of the 0.2°C increase in the global mean surface temperature in the past decade”
Chris, it might make the race a little more interesting however, do you really think this woman has what it takes to be President? Nobody even knew her. We’re talking about an OLD old man running- so that’s a real possibility.
Free—thanks, but no apology needed. It is funny when I challenge an extremist lib to provide some backup facts, another calls me a “bush whore”. Somehow, I fail to see how juvenile name calling eliminates the request for facts.
I have been accused of lots of things because I have the audacity to not just accept a lot of the garbage thrown around here. As I posted once, I was born in Missouri, the “show me” state…so I continually challenge outlandish statements. And get insults instead of facts in return.
Oh well…..just because someone calls me something doesn’t make it fact!
Craptor, you get called a Bush whore because you are a Bush whore.
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It is a bit of a stretch to claim three centuries of awareness of greenhouse gases contributing to a
possible climate warming effect
is several centuries old. I think it was Arrhenius who actually made a public case of it, in just a bit over century and a decade ago.
[Jerry Mahlman]
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Noted. Text has been edited.
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One could quibble with the idea that “observations … are the foundation of our science”,
since
the whole IPCC enterprise is motivated by the theory of global warming due to
increasing greenhouse gases.
I’d suggest changing “the foundation” to “a foundation”.
[Dian Seidel]
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Accepted. Text has been edited.
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“Over the last decade global land-surface sets have been able to increase the number of
stations substantially”.
Is untrue.There has been a substantial reduction
in the number of stations since 1980. see T C Peterson and R S Vose 1997 “An Overview of the Global
Historical Climatology Network Temperature Database” Bulletin of the Royal
Meteorological Society Vol 78, pages 2837-2849. There has been a particularly large
reduction in the former Soviet Union. Delete from “decade” on line 30 to “not” on line 33
and replace with “substantial reductions in numbers of stations, and in their reliability,
since 1980, have affected accuracy of recent figures”.
[Vincent Gray]
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Status:
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Replace “Remarkable success” with “usefulness”
No model has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change
and until one does they cannot be considered particularly “successful”
[Vincent Gray]
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“Unstated here is the mega-challenge on how to properly initialize the complete climate
system in our models.
Many tricks are employed
that produce an equilibrated state, but not necessarily comfortably close
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We always have to be very careful when we discuss “abrupt climate change”. Typically,
such “abrupt”
climate changes take decades to centuries to millenia,
e.g. thermohaline circulation slowdown/collapse(50-100 years), West Antarctic ice sheet collapse(500- 1000years) ; Arctic summer sea ice melting roughly a century or so).
[Jerry Mahlman]
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Status:
The point is well taken, although much
faster changes than those cited by the
reviewer are now known to occur. We
will alter the text to clarify the concept
of abrupt climate change.
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Did a little research: Perhaps Ms. Palin isn’t a lead pipe cinch to be the poster-child for the right to lifers. Seems there’s a hot debate among them over prenatal genetic testing or even the testing of embryos to be implanted. By even having the testing Ms. Palin may have alienated the pro-life crowd.
And more ironic still, even though she elected to give birth to a Downs Syndrome child, many advocates for the disabled will condemn her for the testing. It seems they feel pre-natal genetic testing is discriminatory.
And if you look at this graph you will notice a few things…
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709
Why is the CO2 line so out of step with the temperature?
Why has it been ever so much warmer in the past in relation to current times?
Why does the cos line jump all the way off the graph (ending above the ‘Y’ in ‘Today’ yet the temp has lowered?
SolDevVB,
Thank you for again posting some of the corrections made to the early drafts of the report.
SolDevVB,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-716-2/#comment-384850
She’s anti birth control- so what happens when she gets pregnant with another disabled child? She obviously has enough riches that she doesn’t have to actually CARE for her kids.
Women like her make me ill. She is not at all pro-woman. She’s pro-rich women.
Thank you for again posting some of the corrections lies made [in] the early drafts of the report.
Lets review…
the whole IPCC enterprise is motivated by the theory of global warming due to increasing greenhouse gases.
Is untrue.There has been a substantial reduction
climate changes take decades to centuries to millenia,
Many tricks are employed
And my favorite:
No model has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change
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http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-716-2/#comment-384850
Again with the graph that ends in 1998, when global warming did.
So cosmos, can’t answer the questions? CO2 is higher than at any other point in recorded history, yet we aren’t nearly as warm. Hmmmm.
SolDevVB,
I’ve already answered your CO2-temperature question, multiple times. CO2 is not the only forcing.
It’s not my fault that you cannot understand basic climate science.
“To bad they don’t have a space marked none of the above on the ballot.” [Freebird1971]
Actually, I have learned that an independtnt group has applied to have one, Noneof Above, a US Born but family ties to Russian/French parents, placed on the ballot in at least 35 states for November.
The candidate, whose name is pronounced Nonov Abovey, was born in King of Prussia, PA, and raised in Paris, NY….
He has many years of service, having been in print millions of times in his lifetime. He is not affected by age, gender, or national origin; or by religious preference.
The Independent Group, Anonymous–Anonymous, was founded by A. Sy Nonym, long before it was popular to be Independent.
News just in from Friars Roast Coffee Co., Ltd. — New London, OH; Ontario, CA; and Greece, NY.
/sarcasm off/
It’s not my fault that you cannot understand basic climate science.
It’s not my fault you are a blind Gore shill worshiping at the feet of the lying IPCC.
Hard to face facts when your religion betrays you.
Your graphs from your ‘many answers’ conveniently stop in 1998, as did global warming.
And you still can’t answer why CO2 is the highest in recorded history and the temperatures are falling. If the CO2 is so massively high, why isn’t every year hotter than the last? In actuality, temps are falling.
very funny, you had me there for a minute.
BTW my apology was sincere,itit’s up to you if you choose to accept it
can’t type
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/ak_gov_says_staffer_pressed_for_troopers_firing.php
This woman is just like any republicon….gets theirs and then destroys others.
She is NO FEMINIST.
The link doesn’t work PMom. If you are re the trooper issue that is discussed on the McCain thread.
How does that make her anti-fem?
What worries me is we have one candidate who would be afraid to use our military power and another would be too eager to use it. There has to be a balance somewhere
SolDevVB,
You seems unable to understand that CO2 is NOT the only forcing.
Sorry, but I can’t fix stupid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming
Sorry, but I can’t fix stupid.
You got that right. Worshiping at the feet of the lying IPCC and Gore? How much more stupid can you be?
And can’t even explain why CO2 is off the chart and temps are falling? Pretty stupid I’d say.
She’s no feminist because she believes in closing the doors to women’s rights. It makes me sick that she would even try to claim the name ‘feminist’.
She’s a hypocrite.
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Chas , your silence indicates you choose not to accept. Well I tried
she believes in closing the doors to women’s rights.
Such as???
OHHHHHHHHHH
Because she is pro-life? Damn PMom, you are strating to sound like a one trick pony.
Seriously, not just tryin to poke.
Free–making direct amends when possible isn’t diminished by a lack of response. No worries…you did the honorable thing.
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Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
She’s no feminist because she believes in closing the doors to women’s rights. It makes me sick that she would even try to claim the name ‘feminist’.
She’s a hypocrite.
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Appears to me, Governor Palin is at the top of the food chain for feminists. She’s independent and can walk the talk, unlike many of the mouths that just talk and can’t walk.
So, before you go describing what a feminist means, perhaps you should re-examine what it means to be a feminist and a woman.
Freebird — My silence indicates nothing of that sort at all… Paranoia is not a part of that Step. Check the book again.
Check the book again.
What a dick!
Yes, Freebird, what Raptor said….
Sorry I’m learning. Character defect you know
Sol, it is important that Freebird understane the meaning of the Step, as well as expressing its intent.
And before you try lecturing me on AA, please be aware that I have worked with AA programs for more than 30 years.
Not a problem, Freebird… and not a character defect… It is a disease… and much of it is between You and your Higher Power. :-)
SolDevVB,
WHY are you unable to understand that CO2 is NOT the only forcing? Are you stupid?
Volcanoes, aerosols (such as from coal-fired power plants), La Ninas, cool phases of the PDO, solar minimums, and other factors cause cooling.
In the other direction, El Ninos can add to the AGW warming trend, like it did in 1998.
Oh yea, and Learning is a life-long adventure!
P-mom:
So she’s no “feminist” because her life choices are different than yours?
Wow. How open of you. How accepting of you. Uh-huh.
Yours party CLAIMS to be the party of tolerance of differences, right? SO you say? Turns out the claim is just that – a claim. When it matters, that claim is just so much caribou-dung.
In fact, it is the usual “tolerance” for everything except what matters: differences of opinion.
Careful. Your hypocricy is showing. Badly.
WHY are you unable to understand that CO2 is NOT the only forcing? Are you stupid?
Stupid? Nah, I don’t blindly follow the lying IPCC and Gore.
I am smart enough to see that CO2 and temps are exponentially out of sync. Ergo, CO2 is far from the boogey man you purport.
Volcanoes
LMFAO. You dense bastard!!! You tried to slam Ron Paul with volcanoes and here is your stupid ass pointing at them.
Too freakin rich. LMFAO.
What a joke shill you are cosmos.
I love it when cosmos has to eat his own words.
Those very same words that I told him affected climate more than his precious co2.
I told you so and here I am again, telling you again.
You’re a Goracle follower cosmos – hopeless and blind to real climate science.
No not just because she is anti-choice. She’s anti woman because of her anti- birth control. Her belief that women belong in the home. Her belief that women should not have their rights written into the constitution.
Women who do this are hypocrites. They want the power and the glory for themselves- but believe that ‘regular’ women should not.
Her belief that women belong in the home.
That is a lie. She is proof of that lie.
She’s anti woman because of her anti- birth control.
Can you post a link where she denounces condums or birth control pills?
Her belief that women should not have their rights written into the constitution.
Do you have a link to this?
No more worries about global warming…Sarah will just start up her snow “machine” and everything will be just fine.
Boxlock posted the following–The Snopes analysis is in italics.
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised that
1. That participation in the program would be completely voluntary
Snopes says, “there was no provision in the Social Security Act of 1935 nor has there ever been for the payment of social security payroll taxes to be voluntary.”
2. That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the program
Snopes says, “Social Security taxes were never limited to the first 1,400 of annual income,” and says in fact that the first 3,000 of income were taxed in year one of the program.”
3. That the money the participants elected to put into the program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year
Snopes says that the Social Security Act expressly forbids that payments would be deductible.
4. That the money the participants paid would be put into the ‘Independent Trust Fund’ rather than into the General Operating Fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security retirement program, and no other government program, and
Snopes says that the Social Security Fund was established in 1939 managed by the Dept of Treasury. They have never been part of the “general operating fund.”
5. That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Snopes say this was never a promise. Until 1984, the Treasury Dept. determined that SS income would not be taxed for income. In 1983, the Greenspan Commission determined that some SS income should be taxed depending on total income of the recepient. Greenspan was appointed by Reagan. This recommendation was passed by a bi-partisan vote in Congress and signed into law by Reagan.”
*****
I only wish to God that I had the longevity of a right-wing lie. I’d live forever.
Her husband’s hair plugs were obvious even in the long shots.
P.M., what brand of ear plugs does your husband use? I bet they are great.
SolDevVB,
Note the effect of the Mt. Pinatubo eruption.
http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Short_Instrumental_Temperature_Record_png
unicorns, cosmos, unicorns.
PMom is just jealous because the weak-kneed women of the Democratic party just can’t seem to break into the GOBN.
So, they resort into the abortion and choice mantra.
Yeah…
Look how well that has done for the Democratic (cough) feminists.
Note the effect of the Mt. Pinatubo eruption.
So Ron Paul was right.
Appology accepted.
Multi-nic’d Regular,
CO2 not being the only forcing does NOT mean it’s an insignificant forcing.
You have failed your mission cosmos, go turn in your Goracle “beanie” cap now.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709
Note the exponential difference between CO2 and temperature.
Hmmmmm.
Seems CO2 is such a minor player in the grand scam scheme.
Please to be picking up my plaque. And a medal for you Reg.
SolDevVB posted August 29, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Note the effect of the Mt. Pinatubo eruption.
So Ron Paul was right.
Appology accepted.
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Thanks again SolDevVB, for proving that you’re clueless.
Aerosols from the Mt. Pinatubo eruption caused COOLING.
Ron Paul claimed that volcanoes were causing “global warming”.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-716-2/#comment-384850
Wait wait wait. I thought we were talking about the CO2 boogey man. Can’t stay focused cosmos?
Yup, and you’re back to your 1998 graphs. How many times are you going to drag that dead horse out to beat?
Or are you trying to prove that global warming did indeed stop in 1998.
Good on ya cosmos. It is a good thing to get a dose of reality once in a while. Don’t let Gore catch ya though.
Wow…the making fun of hair is escalating..making fun of both Sarah’s hair AND her husband’s. Now THERE is an issue worthy of debate…HAIR.
Man…the pettiness is incredible.
SolDevVB,
We were talking about how you seem to be too stupid to understand that CO2 is NOT the only forcing.
You love to hurl ’stupid’ don’t you?
You seem to be too stupid to understand that CO2 levels are exponentially higher than the temp.
DUH!!!
CO2 is a straw man. But it seems to be the only way Gore and the lying IPCC can make a huge transference of wealth. I mean how are you going to tax cow farts?
Get a clue cosmos, your religion used you. You have been hoodwinked.
Stupid is as stupid does. Keep worshiping the lying IPCC and Gore cosmos.
Looks like pay-back for all of the stupid comments about Hillary’s cleavage, and her thighs… LOL…. The Repubs sure put out their share of “appearance” mantras against Hillary, early on….
“Wow…the making fun of hair is escalating..making fun of both Sarah’s hair AND her husband’s” — Craptor
Craptor, you shameless whore.
The Repubs sure put out their share of “appearance” mantras against Hillary,
Yeah, but Palin is a hottie!
And it’s really none of my business (but as a 20+ year member of an anonymous fellowship for people who love and are related to alcoholics, I get a free pass; Al-Anons don’t give out chips because we never have made it to 30 days of serenity) I’ve had a bit of concern for “Freebird1971’s” recovery.
“Freebird1971,” congratulations!
But you’re way early in the process and you’re going through the high most newly-recovering drunks tend to experience. You’re feeling good, even euphoric about your recovery.
But this isn’t the time to go out and share your newly re-found on issues that have nothing to do with your recovery.
Politics? WE Blog? They don’t matter a whit. This is the time in your life to be particularly and peculiarly “selfish.” Think about what’s a better use of your newfound life: sharing your political insights or reading the Book, talking to a sponsor, catching an extra meeting with a newcomer who’s where you were just 90 days ago…
Where else can you get a cup of coffee and a life for a buck?
Which woman governor is it who was born in Canada??
MH, unless you are Free’s sponsor, you are totally out of line trying to tell him how to go about his recovery. You are correct in that it is none of your business.
Granholm
I don’t know about any woman governor born in Canada, but that Montana governor, a male, was born in Canada, forgot his name.
Palin was born in Idaho.
SolDevVB,
Thank you for proving my point. . . and that you don’t understand climate science.
Granholm —- Michigan??
Yes chas.
cosmos
Thank you for proving my point that you are a blind shill for Gore and the lying IPCC. That you still can’t see that your religion has used you.
And that Ron Paul was right.
“GMC70″ tries –
“So she’s [the GILF] no “feminist” because her life choices are different than yours?”
No. It’s because she lives a CON lie.
Like Phylis Schafley who, in practice, is a mainline feminist. She saw an employment opportunity, created a cottage industry based precisely on a lifestyle she rejected for herself.
Schafley’s anti-gay agenda was severely threatened a few years ago when he son came out of the closet. So Schafley rejected her son rather than change her business model.
So we’ve got the former mayor of a town the size of Hoxie who got elected GILF with the endorsement of Ted “InterTubes” Stevens two years ago; a petty politician who got her brother-in-law fired to help her sister’s alimony lawsuit; whose heart flutters when she just thinks about that massive snow machine between his legs…
… and all I want to ask John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) is: “On what issues do you think your Vice-Presidential pick might be able to change your opinion?”
The GILF is Dan Quayle in a skirt.
Monkey: Securing Alaska is a yawn. Securing the “drill” vote is a yawn. Securing the anti-abortion vote is a yawn.
She might be able to bite into the Hillary supporters. I don’t see any other way that she can really help. But that could be enough.
GILF????
Grandma or
Girl
I’d
Like
To
F
SolDevVB,
Okay, so you believe that all of the scientists listed here are just “blind shills”.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/08/open-thread-829-2/#comment-412485
Governor
I believe a growing number of scientists are awakening to the scam.
I believe you can not explain how CO2 is exponentially disproportionate to temperature.
I can see you want to derail that argument because you have no answer for it.
I can see that by your whipping out a list of more shills.
I can see that global temperatures have dropped since ’98.
I can see that the ocean temperatures have dropped.
I can see beyond the hype of Gore and the lies of the IPCC.
I can see an attempt at a global transference of wealth.
I can see that you are blind to this, blind to the IPCC lies and agenda, and to common sense.
Sucks to be you.
Good one Anti. Didn’t even think of that one. LMAO.
Monkey?? GILF???
chas.
Governor
I’d
Like to
Fu(k
SolDevVB,
Thank you for again proving that you do not understand even the basics of climate science.
Thank you for again proving that you do not understand even the basics of climate science.
And neither do you. CO2 exponentially higher. Temps… not so much.
Shill shill shill said the cosmos
Happy shill are we.
Stupid is as stupid does. Worshiping the lying IPCC and Gore. Bout as dumb as you can be.
SolDevVB,
I’m getting tired of thanking you for proving that you do not understand even the basics of climate science.
CO2 is NOT the only forcing.
From this chart cosmos, CO2 plays NO ROLE.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709
But since Gore and the IPCC can’t make money from cow farts, they brainwash shills like yourself to keep ‘Hope Alive’!!!
Global wealth transference.
Don’t feel bad. There have been many that have shilled as hard as you for worthless causes.
Some of you might want to take a look at this newspaper article
http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html
discussing Governor Sarah Palin’s stance on the evolution/creation issue. The piece is from the Anchorage Daily News and ran during the last gubernatorial race.
Best wishes to all of you for a good Labor Day weekend.
Boeing union tells members to reject contract and strike
BY MOLLY MCMILLIN, The Wichita Eagle
Machinists union leaders at Boeing are unanimously recommending members reject Boeing’s three-year contract proposal when they vote next week and vote to strike, union spokeswoman Connie Kelliher said this afternoon.
This hasn’t been posted yet…..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080829/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear;_ylt=Ajv7wKdtxURtm7j3oBLnj.Gs0NUE
Boxie, ohhh, Boxie?!
Remember when you wrote this upthread? I did check Snopes and you are the one lying there Capn.
And then I went back and actually posted what Snopes said and you were completely, totally, without exception WRONG.
All you have to say is “you were right, Capn, and I was wrong and I’ll never repeat these scurrilous right-wing lies again,” and all will be forgiven, Boxlock.
I love the smell of freshly kicked right-wing ass.
It’s like . . . freedom.
Returns
Prayers to the family of Senator Kassebaum on the loss of their son.
“Richard Landon Kassebaum, the son of former Kansas Sen. Nancy Landon Kassebaum, died Wednesday in Knoxville, Tenn., of a brain tumor, according to the family.
He was born in Wichita in 1960 and was a graduate of Maize High School.
He was a filmmaker who worked on several PBS documentaries and was a producer for Front Porch Films. He won a Student Academy Award in 1990 for his film about his grandfather, Alfred M. Landon, “Alf Landon: My Talk With Papa.”
He graduated from Kansas State University in 1983 with a bachelor of science degree in radio and television. He attended graduate film school at the University of Southern California.
Roy Wenzl – Wichita Eagle
Oh great, I’m so glad that this ‘woman’ VP pick gets to hear all the sexist language against her…”Governor I’d like to …”, “hottie”. Going to vote for her cuz she’s hot vs substance. Yep, the GOP remains the party of the sexist. Congratulations there Sarah. You just brought our fight for equality down to the level of a playboy magazine.
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Regular
Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:06 am | Permalink
Future commercial showing how Obama hates what America stands for and his resistance to anything showing the American national symbol, our flga.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0ycYEGtqU
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You know who’s backing that infocrap? None other than Move Forward America. Check them out. About as far right wing as you can get, and still retain the power to speak, although the speaking is understandable only by either right wing republicans or dead chickens.
Russo Marsh and Rogers have been implicated in running known false political ads and are the founders of the organization. Their spokesperson, Howard Kaloogian, did the following:
Kaloogian’s campaign has been plagued with at least four false endorsements and one conflicting endorsement:
* In February 2006, Kaloogian placed an ad in a Washington, D.C. newspaper that falsely claimed the California Pro-Life Council endorsed Kaloogian. They did not endorse any candidate for the race.[9]
* Another claim for endorsement by the conservative Center for Reclaiming America (active in the Terri Schiavo feeding tube petition drive) also proved false — the organization stated they don’t endorse candidates. [10]
* In March, campaign literature and Kaloogian’s website suggested State Senator Tom McClintock endorsed Kaloogian with the two-year old quote “Howard Kaloogian has distinguished himself as one of the most principled, courageous and steadfast conservative leaders in California.”[11] In a statement McClinctock stated “It has come to my attention that a campaign mailing on behalf of Howard Kaloogian includes a picture and quote from me that suggests that I have endorsed his candidacy for U. S. Congress. I have not.”[12].
* State Senator Bill Morrow, who was running against Kaloogian, challenged an implied endorsement by him of Kaloogian on the same webpage.[13][14]
* Endorsements from social conservatives such as James Dobson who was appointed to the Commission on Pornography, 1985-86 during the Reagan administration and Concerned Women for America, a religious conservative women’s political organization, are at odds with an endorsement from Gabrielle Reilly[15] – an adult website model[16] and who also appeared on Kaloogian’s web site. The Reilly endorsement on Kaloogian’s web site was later removed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Kaloogian
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This is what reg presents as proof of something or other, because fact it sure ain’t. I’m beginning to wonder if Wango boy has finally converted some of the flotsam wondering around the halls of republican kiddy school. Sad to see people resorting to gossip and presenting it as fact.
Reg, go write on the blackboard a couple hundred times, “I will not be a Wango . . . . . . . . . . Ah, hell, never mind; If you’re already a Wango, nothing will help.
Chas
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:54 pm | Permalink
Monkey?? GILF???
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Says much about the Monkey, the perverted freak.
JMWalker
Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:32 pm
This is what reg presents as proof of something or other, because fact it sure ain’t. I’m beginning to wonder if Wango boy has finally converted some of the flotsam wondering around the halls of republican kiddy school. Sad to see people resorting to gossip and presenting it as fact.
Reg, go write on the blackboard a couple hundred times, “I will not be a Wango . . . . . . . . . . Ah, hell, never mind; If you’re already a Wango, nothing will help.
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So,
Tell me what your lying eyes told you about Obama on the video?
Was it a mass conspiracy that Obama didn’t respect the national anthem, the flag and generally be a far left liberal in all his messianic glory?
What part of Obama being shown on the video was a lie?
“You just brought our fight for equality down to the level of a playboy magazine”
Homely liberal women everywhere are mad beyond all measure.
Go look in the mirror, Nut…who do you think wants YOUR bod? LOL
McCain is a fool…I’m so glad he picked this woman…he just handed Obama the election. Who in their right mind would take him seriously now?
Pee…..errrrrrrrr, Mary,
I’m not the one complaining about Palin’s obvious good looks. I’m sorry that you’re envious, but them’s the facts, ma’am.
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So,
Tell me what your lying eyes told you about Obama on the video?
Was it a mass conspiracy that Obama didn’t respect the national anthem, the flag and generally be a far left liberal in all his messianic glory?
What part of Obama being shown on the video was a lie?
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The whole thing, Wango jr. It’s about as cherry-picked piece of trash, assembled by neo-cons, as I have ever seen. It’s all been beaten into the ground and proven to be total bs. You really should stay out of the sun: it’s affecting what’s left of your few brain cells.
Gossip, rumors and Collage crap; all started by airheads.
HLP
Posted August 29, 2008 at 6:31 am | Permalink
Good morning Mr Walker,
Grid losses aren’t nearly as high as you state. The grid is old and not up to the job of being able to utilize all of the ‘greenie’ energy sources but then a lot of that is due to problems caused by the ‘greenies’!
Grid losses are less than 10%.
http://www.energetics.com/gridworks/grid.html
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Hank, that’s more bs. Even at 10%, that is a great loss. Hell, give me a thou, and I’ll hand you back 900. Fair deal, huh?
But it’s not just the “greenies” fighting the network, it’a also all the NIMBY types, which include poor, middle class, and wealthy people of all persuasions, dems, repubs, et al. Want em coming into your back yard and putting up a major electrical transmission line. Could block that great view you got.
And “Green” electricty is the same as any other electricity, only renewable. Once coal is gone, it’s gone, once the wind stops, heck, it just starts again. Same with the sun. Imagine that.
“I’m not the one complaining about Palin’s obvious good looks. I’m sorry that you’re envious, but them’s the facts, ma’am.”
I’m not complaining about her “good” looks…it’s her Christian arrogance, her idea that she wants creationism taught in public schools, and her belief that not everyone is equal and not entitled to the same rights that has my panties in a wad.
She’s Anita Bryant all over again…I thought we got past that BS in the 70s!
Absolutely Mary. If she’s out to prove that women are unqualified, well they sure picked their perfect candidate.
Unbelieveable.
SolDevVB posted August 29, 2008 at 3:13 pm
“From this chart cosmos, CO2 plays NO ROLE.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709”
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SolDevVB yet again proves that his stupidity cannot be fixed.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-716-2/#comment-384850
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JMWalker
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:36 pm | Permalink
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So,
Tell me what your lying eyes told you about Obama on the video?
Was it a mass conspiracy that Obama didn’t respect the national anthem, the flag and generally be a far left liberal in all his messianic glory?
What part of Obama being shown on the video was a lie?
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The whole thing, Wango jr. It’s about as cherry-picked piece of trash, assembled by neo-cons, as I have ever seen. It’s all been beaten into the ground and proven to be total bs. You really should stay out of the sun: it’s affecting what’s left of your few brain cells.
Gossip, rumors and Collage crap; all started by airheads.
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So you admit that you don’t believe your eyes and ears?
Must be sad in your world.
Golf?
Excuse me?
Mr nut?
Mary and political mama are not the same person.
I have met both of them.
I’ve also seen, but chose NOT to meet you.
I was afraid I’d be drawn into orbit and stuck there.
So you admit that you don’t believe your eyes and ears?
Must be sad in your world.
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Only Wango logic could pull that out the posts. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
As can easily be seen from this Blog, the LIES will now begin… all the way from McCain and his new
bimboVP apointment…. down to the lowliest of the low on the Blog, LIES, LIES, LIES!!!Thats the only way they think they can win… I have had enough of the LIES…. I say it is time for the Progressives to stand up to the LIES, and call them out… one by one if necessary… but call them out, and FORCE them to admit to the LIES…. to save our country, and our way of life… at least what Bushco has left of it….
Time now to MOVE FORWARD to change what has been…. and take back all of that which has been taken from us these past years of Republican/Lying domination….
So mote it be!!!
Good night; good luck; God bleess —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!!
So mote it be!!
Gustav Strengthens to Dangerous Category 4 Hurricane
Saturday, August 30, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,413941,00.html
Mayor Nagin and the people of New Orleans appear to be doing the RIGHT THING THIS TIME!
GET OUT OF TOWN!
Now Nagin, WHY couldn’t you get your city evacuated like this BEFORE KATRINA HIT????
You dumbshit Nagin, you blamed Bush and everybody else for your failures to evacuate before Katrina.
Who ya gonna blame this time?
The Rain Man said Katrina was:
Bush’s fault
Bush’s fault
yep
Bush’s fault
Bush’s fault
yep
Say NAGIN, you Dumb MF, check out the weather forecast for New Orleans.
Sunday and Monday and Tuesday looks like a real Bitch. Why you waiting to declare a mandatory E V A C U A T I O N?
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=New+Orleans&state=LA&site=LIX&textField1=30.0658&textField2=-89.9314&e=0
Late Afternoon: A 10 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 87. East wind around 5 mph.
Tonight: A 10 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms before 1am. Partly cloudy, with a low around 77. East wind between 5 and 10 mph.
Sunday: A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms, mainly after 1pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 89. Breezy, with a east wind between 10 and 20 mph.
Sunday Night: Tropical storm conditions possible. A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 79. East wind 20 to 25 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph.
Labor Day: Hurricane conditions possible. Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. High near 83. Chance of precipitation is 80%.
Monday Night: Hurricane conditions possible. Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce gusty winds and heavy rain. Low around 78. Chance of precipitation is 80%.
Tuesday: Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce gusty winds and heavy rain. High near 83. Chance of precipitation is 80%.
You must always leave Q and you must not get angry with him if you lose. This is where being consistent with FICA comes in. This is called Alaska.