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‘This is going to be catastrophic’ – Farmers’ Almanac says cold winter ahead
Households worried about the high cost of keeping warm this winter will draw little comfort from the Farmers’ Almanac, which predicts below-average temperatures for most of the U.S. “Numb’s the word,” says the 192-year-old publication, which claims an accuracy rate of 80 to 85 percent for its forecasts that are prepared two years in advance.
The almanac’s 2009 edition, which goes on sale Tuesday, says at least two-thirds of the country can expect colder than average temperatures, with only the Far West and Southeast in line for near-normal readings.
“This is going to be catastrophic for millions of people,” said almanac editor Peter Geiger, noting that the frigid forecast combined with high prices for heating fuel is sure to compound problems households will face in keeping warm.
The almanac predicts above-normal snowfall for the Great Lakes and Midwest, especially during January and February, and above-normal precipitation for the Southwest in December and for the Southeast in January and February. The Northeast and Mid-Atlantic regions should be getting an unusually wet or snowy February, the almanac said.
The forecasts, which are spelled out in three- and four-day periods for each region, are prepared by the almanac’s reclusive prognosticator Caleb Weatherbee, who uses a secret formula based on sunspots, the position of the planets and the tidal action of the moon.
Weatherbee’s outlook is borne out by e-mail comments that the almanac has received in recent days from readers who have spotted signs of nature that point to a rough winter, Geiger said. The signs range from an abundance of acorns already on the ground to the frequency of fog in August.
The almanac’s winter forecast is at odds with that of the National Weather Service, whose trends-based outlook calls for warmer than normal temperatures over much of the country, including Alaska, said Ed O’Lenic, chief of the operations branch at NOAA’s Climate Prediction Center.
While he wouldn’t comment specifically on the almanac’s ability to forecast the weather two years from now, O’Lenic said it’s generally impossible to come up with accurate forecasts more than a week in advance. “Of course it’s possible to prepare a forecast with any lead time you like. Whether or nor that forecast has any accuracy or usable skill is another question,” he said.
Attended the Yoder Heritage Day celebration yesterday beginning with their annual outdoor sausage and hotcakes breakfast. Thanks to the Amish and Mennonite hosts, people from all over southern Kansas were there enjoying the nice day and food. Also lots of young people, horses, mules, dogs.
Interesting contrast between the Yoder crowd and the more gentile, latta sipping intellectuals attending Thomas Frank’s signing of his new book, THE WRECKING CREW. Lots of B.S. in both places of course.
But I don’t think another spontaneous meetup of WE Bloggers broke out this time. Perhaps a special baseball cap is needed to identify WE Bloggers in large crowds.
Anyway got to go to breakfast.
HEHEHE
Baseball caps! Good idea! We could have red ones for the conservatives and blue ones for the libs.
Sorry I missed it JWink, I had way too much to do yesterday. The boy came out and we clipped all the duck’s wings.
You would need maroon shaded hats for the Independents. :)
This just in: Cindy Sheehan chosen as McLame’s running mate. Said McLame, “She knows Bush’s ranch better than Bush, so after my wife buys it, I’ll know all the good hunting spots. That will give me . . . one, two, three, fou . . . 13 houses. Damn, it’s nice to be married to a rich c**t.”
“McCain: I’d Secretly Spy On Americans Too”
http://freedom.akweb.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=910
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Spying on internet traffic “Two former AT&T employees say the telecom giant has maintained a secret, highly secure room in St. Louis since 2002,” Salon’s Kim Zetter reported June 21, 2006. “Intelligence experts say it bears the earmarks of a National Security Agency operation.”
“If the NSA is using the secret room, it would appear to bolster recent allegations that the agency has been conducting broad and possibly illegal domestic surveillance and data collection operations authorized by the Bush administration after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001,” Zetter wrote.
* “President Bush and other top officials in his administration used the National Security Agency to secretly wiretap the home and office telephones and monitor private email accounts of members of the United Nations Security Council in early 2003 to determine how foreign delegates would vote on a U.N. resolution that paved the way for the U.S.-led war in Iraq, NSA documents show,” Jason Leopold reported December 27, 2005, for The Raw Story.
* “The journalist surveillance program, code named “Firstfruits,” was part of a Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) program that was maintained at least until October 2004 and was authorized by then-DCI Porter Goss. Firstfruits was authorized as part of a DCI “Countering Denial and Deception” program responsible to an entity known as the Foreign Denial and Deception Committee (FDDC).”
Good for McCain. Show me one person who’s rights were violated by illegal surveillance.
I would expect McCain to do whatever is necessary and appropriate to discover and stop terrorist activity against this country.
I suppose this might be a place where he differs with Obama and his leftist base.
I agree outlander.
Almost every aspect of our lives is an open book to the government. But try to take measures that would protect us from terrorists and oooh, scary.
What is scary is the fact that the liberal panty waists like little barry and his supporters can’t seem to come to grips with the fact that there is real evil in the world.
Just the fact that the surveillance is illegal violates Your rights, and Mine, outlander… even if it didnt directly effect You or Me…. It effected a CITIZEN…. And it was illegal… Therefore, if it effects one of us, it effects all of us!!
How is spying on all american citizens’ private lives keeping us “safe from terrorists”?
……Big Brother is watching you (for your own good)
Randy, is that you?
HEHEHE
Back later…. early service soon!!
You need look no further than England to see what’s in store for us. In England, they have surveillance cameras everywhere.
In an information age, there are tons of data out there on everybody. That’s not always a bad thing. My concern is how they use this data and how they safeguard it. Hardly a week goes by anymore that there’s not a serious security breach where personal information isn’t accessed illegally. Unsecured laptops fall into the wrong hands, etc. It usually happens because someone was stupid.
Get control of data security. Make it so my personal information doesn’t fall into the wrong hands.
The problem guys is not the spying on possible terrorists it is the fact that the information gathered is not limited only to those that are fighting terrorism. It is accessible and can be used by any and all Law enforcement agencies within the U.S. That is a violation of the Constitution and when defending the Constitution it makes no sense to destroy it! The reality is that you are not an American simply by the fact you were born here. It is not because you happen to vote or pay taxes, it is because of the Constitution that you are an American.
I have said it before and I will say it again, Bin Laden and a thousand planes flown into a thousand buildings killing a thousand Americans in each. Would not give him the power to destroy America only we can if we surrender our Constitution and our ideology that made this nation the United States of America.
This is not about defeating the terrorists its about defending the ideology of the Americans. It is contrary to fight a trash can fire by pouring gas all over your house.
“What is scary is the fact that the liberal panty waists like little barry and his supporters can’t seem to come to grips with the fact that there is real evil in the world.”
Yes there is evil in the world and I’m glad the conservatives are protecting us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weD0Jt8A5Zg&feature=related
outlander
Posted August 24, 2008 at 8:34 am | Permalink
Good for McCain. Show me one person who’s rights were violated by illegal surveillance.
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The Washington Post today reports that Attorney General Gonzales likely knew of the FBI’s wide-ranging abuses of Patriot Act powers before he told the Senate intelligence committee that “there [had] not been one verified case of civil liberties abuse.” In fact, Gonzales had received at least six reports of violations from the FBI up to three months prior to his statement.
The acts recounted in the FBI reports included unauthorized surveillance, an illegal property search and a case in which an Internet firm improperly turned over a compact disc with data that the FBI was not entitled to collect, the documents show. Gonzales was copied on each report that said administrative rules or laws protecting civil liberties and privacy had been violated.
The reports also alerted Gonzales in 2005 to problems with the FBI’s use of an anti-terrorism tool known as a national security letter (NSL), well before the Justice Department’s inspector general brought widespread abuse of the letters in 2004 and 2005 to light in a stinging report this past March.
…Each of the violations cited in the reports copied to Gonzales was serious enough to require notification of the President’s Intelligence Oversight Board, which helps police the government’s surveillance activities. The format of each memo was similar, and none minced words.
This latest revelation shows yet again that Americans have absolutely no reason to trust Mr. Gonzales. And his lack of trustworthiness is of the utmost concern, because he is the man ultimately in charge of enforcing the law and protecting the rights and civil liberties of the American people. In this time of greatly expanded executive power and ever-diminishing privacy, we need an Attorney General who will uphold the law and protect the interests of all Americans, instead of only the Executive; we need a man who will champion our rights and civil liberties, not lie to the Senate to conceal their erosion. By any measure, Mr. Gonzales has clearly failed to serve the American public.
http://ndnblog.org/node/1330
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It’s the government, stupid. It is manned by the average human being, not machines. The data will be abused for that reason itself. There are bad guys out there willing to destroy our way of life, but subjecting the average American to the abuses of the broad powers bestowed on the security agencies is not acceptable. Catch the bad guys, yes, but don’t run over the basic freedoms we are guaranteed under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
It’s day 21 of the HBC Machinists’ strike.
Things have to be getting tight in those households. Three missed paychecks in hopes of what – another 1% on the contract? It’ll likely be another week at the minimum.
And if it goes on longer and some get their homes repossessed, will they blame that on Bush, too?
Dog’s 9:26 a.m. post should be read and then reread by every American.
Several days ago, I had an experience that proves the veracity of two things: 1) never discount the wit and wisdom of one’s elders; and 2) never trust the low-rent imitators. ‘Cause you’ll be scroo-wed if you do.
Late one recent afternoon after leaving work, I decided to treat myself to a frappuccino. Frappuccinos are really, really cool if you’re a broad on the far side of 49 and you’re enduring icky-wicked hot flashes with some degree of frequency. For those who haven’t experienced these delightful rites of female passage, they come in three varieties: 1) mildly annoying; 2) demi-degrading; and (this is the big one) 3) piquantly perverse.
I was enjoying the utopic excesses of #3 that sweltering afternoon. Standing in line at the faux-coffee shop, I felt huge lakes of sweat form on my face (that’s the way all my #3’s start out). Like millions of women before me, I began fanning myself furiously – but remained silent. The air conditioning was turned on full blast, and I don’t believe in one aging amazon determining the cooling index of everyone else in the place.
If only every other broad in the place could have emulated me. None of the following would have happened.
“Why, what’s the MATTER?” a youthful voice bellowed directly behimd me. “Are you HOT? It’s COOL in here, isn’t it?”
Having endured these comments many times throughout the past year, I mumbled, “It’s just me.” As in, I was hoping the bountifully bleeding bimbette would get it. “Are you SICK?” she demanded with a trace of temerity.
“No,” I repeated. “It’s just me.” Hoping against hope that this would suffice. But it didn’t. “What’s the matter?” she repeated. “It’s the change,” I answered. Seeing the blank look directly behind me, I knew further explanation was needed.
“The change…….the change of life….menopause,” I declared. Finally, the lightbulb went from dim to dumber. “Oh! You’re having HOT flashes, are you?” At that point, I decided to try taking the high road. I turned my back on the 25-year-old interrogator, praying for silence, estrogen and for the g-damned line to move so’s I could get my frozen caffeine drink.
Somehow, the b–ch didn’t get the hint. ‘Cause she kept right on talking. Holding forth on everything from global warming to hot flashes to dietary elixirs, Miss Quarter-Century was rapidly getting on my nerves. So I decided to enhance her journey out of puberty. Kind of an altruistic thing.
Kind of a soul-sister thing.
“Have you ever read ‘Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid to Ask’ ?” I blurted out sadistically. “Read the chapter on menopause! It’ll tell you everything you need to know!”
I didn’t tell her, of course, that the chapter in question has already been debunked. (The nice author claims that “women come as close as they can to turning into a man” during this delightful time.) I didn’t tell her this, because I was too busy silently ruminating on several things…..
Chief among them was this: If men have had to put up with this incessant yammering throughout the ages just to sate their lusts, I thought to myself, no WONDER so many of ‘em are mean! If I were male, and I had to listen to this b–ls–t 24/7, I’d chop off my own p–is, feed it to my fish- and/or thinktank, and start singing falsetto for the church choir!
Unfortunately, my quiet reverie was soon interrupted by yet more profundity. “If you eat the right kinds of foods,” Miss Stayfree sternly intoned, “like skinless chicken and fresh vegetables, I bet you’d feel better!”
At this point, I lost it.
That line wasn’t moving; Big Bertha felt another interno comin’ on; and this b–ch wasn’t getting through like she wanted to. I tried to be nice, but it came out all wrong.
“I’ve had enough of standing in line, and I’ve had enough of your sage insights,” I snarled. “Why don’t you go crawl back into that skinless vagina from which you burst forth in 1983?”
I then stormed out in search of the mainline, somewhat pricier coffee shop I’ve frequented in the past. And I found it – mere blocks from my workplace. I purchased a Viente, chocolate mint, Frappucino that put such a smile on my face – I nearly forgot the preceding idiocy.
Young ladies – hear me out: Respect your elders, and don’t purport to know all about something you’ve never experienced.
Starbucks – You’ve got the best coffee drinks, nice soft chairs, and smokin’ music selection in the whole of Wichita. That nice, chocolately Frappu container darned near caused me to perform the same act that I once almost proferred to a Vicodin prescription in 2001. But I didn’t.
It isn’t on an ex-Catholic schoolgirl’s Catechism. But downing more of those Mint-mirthful creations is my idea of heaven!
“Interesting contrast between the Yoder crowd and the more gentile, latta sipping intellectuals attending Thomas Frank’s signing of his new book, THE WRECKING CREW. Lots of B.S. in both places of course.”
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Now I know why you disappeared so quickly and we couldn’t find you when we left the book signing to have a cup of coffee — you already had previous plans with a different group of people! Was it fun? Interesting? Next time introduce us please, we enjoy (actually celebrate!) diversity and have eager minds always willing to listen and learn.
FilmFan, I so enjoy the way you string words together! What I don’t enjoy is taking the two minutes to type something pathetic (describes all my posts) and hit post only to find my boring words directly below your vibrant ones! Kinda like standing in a line of young, thin, beautiful women. I would just as soon be further away where comparison isn’t as easy! ;-)
I hate to distract you CONs from your name-calling snarks, but let’s consider for a moment the issue of taxes and the presidential election.
Let’s use the John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) and his lovely trollop’s income model as applied to each candidates’ tax policies.
(Of course, it’s a bit conjectural since the Arizona Beer
c*ntQueen would have to reveal how much they make.)To get a sense of the difference, though, one need look no further than the NYTimes Magazine piece this Sunday on Obama’s economic policies:
“McCain, by continuing the basic thrust of Bush’s tax policies and adding a few new wrinkles, would cut taxes for the top 0.1 percent of earners — those making an average of $9.1 million — by another $190,000 a year, on top of the Bush reductions. Obama would raise taxes on this top 0.1 percent by an average of $800,000 a year.
“It’s hard not to look at that figure and be a little stunned. It would represent a huge tax increase on the wealthy families. But it’s also worth putting the number in some context. The bulk of Obama’s tax increases on the wealthy — about $500,000 of that $800,000 — would simply take away Bush’s tax cuts. The remaining $300,000 wouldn’t nearly reverse their pretax income gains in recent years. Since the mid-1990s, their inflation-adjusted pretax income has roughly doubled.”
That’s a good ballpark estimation. Obama would raise the McCains’ taxes by roughly $800,000; McCain would cut them by about $200,000. That’s a million dollar spread. No wonder McCain is so hostile to Obama’s economic agenda.
But here’s what’s really interesting. Obama’s proposals would raise his own taxes by hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to cut the taxes of people who are less fortunate than he is. McCain would cut his own taxes even further than they’ve already been reduced.
That’s about everything a voter needs to know about these two men.
I suggest all you McCainiacs choose to go to one of your homes and sit down and figure out how much an Obama presidency will cost you in taxes.
I feel your pain.
You’re fine, Linda!
I appreciate the affirmation!
What I don’t appreciate is being stuck in a line with some pipsqueak barely out of puberty who thinks she knows it all!
Kind of like Randall Terry purporting to be the Toscanini of Tumescence after having all his plasma drained by Dracula. (Have you seen his recent video on YouTube? Dude is uglier than Hellboy – and twice as annoying.)
I gotta go eat lunchie now. But thanks for the praise! I ‘preciate it! (Actually, I’m a-gonna stop at Starbucks on the way!!!!)
Lindainks55: Thanks to you Linda, I went back and read Dog’s 9:26 AM comments, the meaning of which I almost missed on first reading. With a little embellishment, Dog said:
A THOUSAND PLANES FLOWN INTO A THOUSAND BUILDINGS KILLING THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS AND OUR GUESTS FROM EVERY NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH … WILL NOT GIVE BIN LADEN OR ANY OTHER WORLD DESPOT THE POWER TO DESTROY AMERICA AND ITS DEMOCRATIC TRADITIONS.
ONLY WE AMERICANS CAN DO THIS IF WE SURRENDER OUR CONSTITUTION, IDEOLOGY, CULTURE AND LONG TRADITIONS THAT MADE THIS GREAT NATION THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Thanks Dog and Linda for pointing this out.
The key issue isn’t tax cuts or increases. It’s government spending.
B Hussein Obama will increase it.
McCain will cut it.
More than 90 killed in coalition strikes: investigation
HERAT, Afghanistan (AFP) — An investigation has found that more than 90 civilians, mostly women and children, were killed in coalition air strikes days ago, an Afghan government minister told AFP Sunday.
President Hamid Karzai ordered the investigation into Friday’s operation in the western province of Herat after Afghan officials said high numbers of civilians were killed but the US-led coalition said only 30 militants died.
The toll is one of the highest for civilians since international troops arrived in Afghanistan to topple the hardline Taliban regime in late 2001 and comes after a string of such incidents, most of them involving air strikes.
“We went to the area and found out that the bombardment was very heavy, lots of houses have been destroyed and more than 90 non-combatants including women, children and elderly people have died,” the Islamic affairs minister told AFP after his visit to Shindand district earlier Sunday.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h0i7dG9vn5Ry5b3Ozk65tNprYtXQ
You are a typical naive reichwinger ….nuts, McCain will NOT cut government spending anymore than bush did.
How much did did government spending increase in the last 7.5 years of the bush misadministration?
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different day same old shite
But you guys still get credit, at least in my book (sometimes I really miss Wichita).
HLP–sorry about that. I quickly saw Freebird and a phone number. My boo boo.
Call me, Free….please.
Plane crashes in Kyrgyz capital
A passenger plane has crashed – reportedly shortly after take-off – in Kyrgyzstan’s capital, Bishkek.
Alexander Aksyonov from the civil aviation agency was quoted as saying there were casualties. One report says 25 people are known to have survived.
Reports say the Itek Air Boeing 737 was bound for Mashhad, in north-eastern Iran, with at least 83 people on board.
“It took off and reported a technical problem and tried to return to the airport,” an airport spokeswoman said.
Officials from a nearby US base said they were trying to help with the rescue effort.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7580107.stm
No link Chas. Just listen to him.
The rich are evil, evil, evil!!!
Not much different from the whites of slave days and preachers calling blacks less than human and evil, evil, evil!!!!
He makes the rich LESS than citizens. Less than human.
It’s on CNN regular (not headline). He thinks he is “making fun” of Mclame, his seven homes and rich friends.
He is truly DIVIDING AMERICA!!!!!!!!
“If you make only one million dollars I guess you are eligible for welfare.” Unquote
OBAMA IS USING CLASS HATE TO FUEL HIS CAMPAIGN!!!
Obama is USING the hate of the RICH to ignite the masses to support HIS ELECTION.
This is wrong, wrong, wrong!
This is UNAmerican!!!!
But, McCain DOES have a lot of houses… And yet your side can LIE about Obama all you want, and that’s OK??? But, if Obama points out the inconsistincies of McCain, and you have a meltdown???
Now, THATS what is wrong!!
The Rich are the root of all evil in America, and its’ salvation.
Obama is not uniting America
it is not “inclusive” politics.
I don’t give a shit about Mccain. I don’t like Obama either. I don’t have a side.
I am smart enough to understand that each side will cast negatives about the other – and tell lies.
But Obama has MADE A POLITCAL STATEMENT REGARDING THE WEALTHY IN AMERICA.
Four years ago, it was the Repubs saying: Oh, look at Kerry, living off the wealth of his rich wife!!
What’s wrong?? Cant you all take it when the shoe is on the other foot?? LOL How damned predictable!!
Well, there are plenty of Democrats who are extremely wealthy too… so I guess he is talking about both parties…
Something else scares me about Obama:
How will Obama handle foreign affairs and national defense?
I don’t think the whole story of the Russian invasion of Georgia is being reported.
Found some interesting articles, don’t know what to believe:
The Black Sea is becoming a cat and mouse game for the Navy? US Warships delivering relief supplies to Georgia. Why not send freighters with more capacity? US Navy pulls into port at the same time or just after Russian Navy pulls out?
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0824/georgia.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/08/21/international/i014923D97.DTL&feed=rss.news
Ukraine warned not to interfere with Russian Navy’s use of a Black Sea port in the Ukrane?
http://www.kansascity.com/451/story/756234.html
A motive for Russia was to take out two airfields in Georgia being used by Israel to stage and attack on Iran?
http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2008/08/31546.php
Russia has Europe by the balls by controlling their energy supply, but it’s a double edged sword. Cutting of energy to Europe also cuts off Russian revenue. But they could jack up the prices considerably, forcing Europe down to its knees.
I’d like to see Europe defend itself for a change. Russian aggression needs to be stopped, or they will take back Eastern Europe and their old southern flank, putting them in a prime location in the Mid East.
Obama I’m sure will negotiate worldwide peace.
“The rich are EVIL!!!!!”
Naw, just the ones that vote Republican.
“It’s day 21 of the HBC Machinists’ strike.
Things have to be getting tight in those households.”
Really? My sister took her kids and my son to Sportsworld the other day. She doesn’t seem to be hurting.
Kewl.
The brilliant author Thomas Frank, who so many of us good progressives got to meet the other night, is on Cspan talking about his book.
There’s no doubt AmWay that Obama is being Devisive, pitting the Rich against the Poor and using Hate & Envy to gain votes. (Just look at the reactions of JR & Chas! They are manipulated so easily.)
Obama’s also used Race to Divide America. No doubt about that. Let’s make sure we get all the black votes, and get the sympathy white vote at the same time.
God D*mn America, as Obama’s Pastor would say!
That’s one way to buy votes – Hate & Envy.
What’s the definition of Progressive?
Sounds so nice.
Who could be against Progress?
Time for the RW mental midgets to state “sure, but look how many get blown up everday at Chicago dinner banquets”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080824/ts_nm/iraq_bomb_dc_6
No Phantom, you can take your ghoulish prize and place it on your mantle.
You are free to continue to rejoice because more Iraqis have died.
” “It’s day 21 of the HBC Machinists’ strike.
Things have to be getting tight in those households.”
Really? My sister took her kids and my son to Sportsworld the other day. She doesn’t seem to be hurting.”
Or….she is lacking in common sense in conserving monetary resources. Bad decisions both, the strike and frivolous spending decisions in spending money when none is coming in.
The strikers are losers, they will never recover what they are now losing. Theirs is simply silly pride that accomplishes nothing.
I wonder if Union members ever thought of using productivity numbers as a means to bargain for benefits and pay.
To me, I can’t see losing 10 percent of your annual wage going on strike, in order to gain a 1 percent raise in one benefit.
Besides, that company is owned corporately by Goldman-Sachs. I’m pretty sure that a multi-national Stock and Bank company has the funds to out wait strikers.
“Theirs is simply silly pride that accomplishes nothing.”
I would imagine that pride is something you are not much acquainted with there boxy.
Hence your calling it “silly”.
Now go meet that quota salesboy! Maybe you’ll make employee of the month!
You and some other posters attacks on a union are only illustrative of projecting your own smallness. To whit, the courage of the strikers makes you feel inadequate.
There was a time when entire cities would be effected by a large Union strike… It put a lot of pressure on the companies to settle strikes fast…
Not so much anymore… The City economy goes on without the strikers….
“. I’m pretty sure that a multi-national Stock and Bank company has the funds to out wait strikers.”
OOh you are about 100% wrong there James.
This is an aside, but why ARE you allowed to continue posting here? You make death threats and should be confined for your own safety.
That firm is into making money. No airplanes made = no airplanes sold = no money.
They will cave and they will cave hard. Their in house management has never dealt with a strike. The union on the other hand has members who DO remember a strike and know how to win one.
“I wonder if Union members ever thought of using productivity numbers as a means to bargain for benefits and pay.”
Truly spoken like someone who has been out of the work force for a very long time.
“Productivity” is what the company drives with a whip….in between contract negotiating years.
And at that company they have been rolling over job codes, overtime rules, etc. for years.
Now? While the strike is on?
“Productivity” would be just about flat line.
BlueJay posts;
“I would imagine that pride is something you are not much acquainted with there boxy.”….
“To whit, the courage of the strikers makes you feel inadequate.”
No BlueJay, you’ve got it wrong again.
The lack of a personal, individual self-respect the union strikers have for themselves, who derive their identities totally from their association with the union, is what I disdain.
I believe in the greatness of the individual, not a union, and will hold to that even if I personally fail.
BlueJay, this is something I think you may be incapable of understanding…I don’t need or want a union to make my way in the world for me…I will damn well do it on my own or fail on my own. Got it???
“The lack of a personal, individual self-respect the union strikers have for themselves, who derive their identities totally from their association with the union, is what I disdain.”
says boxy as he puts on his knee pads.
BlueJay
Posted August 24, 2008 at 9:31 pm | Permalink
“. I’m pretty sure that a multi-national Stock and Bank company has the funds to out wait strikers.”
OOh you are about 100% wrong there James.
This is an aside, but why ARE you allowed to continue posting here? You make death threats and should be confined for your own safety.
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So you are admitting to being KansasNative.
What do your fellow Lib posters think of you now?
That you would put up disgusting remarks on a woman who has no connection to this blog.
You are a pervert and a loser just as everyone suspected.
Don’t try and weasel out of this one.
“…I will damn well do it on my own or fail on my own. Got it???”
Keep it. I don’t want to think about what you have to do to do so.
Uh no James. Unlike you who has made nic switching an art form and even asked that we all embrace the irrelevance of nics?
And everybody knows it.
I have just the one nic. I don’t have any idea who KansasNative is or why you posted on a thread this evening that if YOU ever figured out who it was you would slit their throat.
Week 4 of the strike starts at midnight, so the strikers are now eligible to receive strike benefits of $150/week.
That might buy a week of groceries.
Who are they going to blame when their houses go into foreclosure?
What’s it to you golf?
Mommy and daddy probably bought your house.
Given the real estate market? I think most lending institutions will be wanting to carry their striking borrowers until they are back on the job.
MUCH easier than unloading MORE houses no one wants. A repo generates no reliable revenue stream.
Regular, rest easy…. BOTH your remark to KS Native and their comment to you seem to be no longer on the Blog…. “Big Brother” must be watching….. :roll:
Specious speculation anyway goof.
Repo and eviction takes months. HB will cave long before that timeline.
Too? Lenders aint getting the best PR just now. Kicking union members out of their houses because they are fighting for better working conditions and pay doesn’t make for good commercials.
Good night; Good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
So mote it be!!
I, for one, am not interested in buying any foreclosed striker real estate. BUT…
I am still looking for that ski boat. The longer this strike goes, the cheaper I’ll get my boat.
UNION NOW!
UNION STRONG!
Give it up KSGolfnut,
They are probably upside down on any ski boat they have that’s worth a shit.
Probably, HLP. But maybe the bank will let ‘em sell it short just to cut the loss.
20 cents on the dollar. It’s a deal.
SOLIDARITY MY BROTHERS!
UNION NOW!!!
I’m glad we have these two idiots posting here. I really am.
We have golfnut with his parents’s money yukking it up about taking advantage of a union worker fighting for better pay and working conditions. He hopes he can get a boat cheap from someone fighting for better pay and treatment.
AND we have the government and wife supported HLP bashing on those same good working people.
So MANY good working people vote Republican. WHY? When such folks as kansasgolfnut and HLP clearly show that the Republican party is made up of such despicable people?
Junior,
I’d be doing him a favor.
How old are you jr? 43? Have you ever been married? We know your baby’s momma didn’t marry you. Were you ever married?
Have ever had a loving lasting relationship with a woman other than your mother? What exactly is your definition of a ‘kept man’?
Seek help.
Physician’s kept man HLP Hank ( or rather witch doctor’s kept man) heal thyself.
No boat for you, tentative agreement reached.
What a moving post!