While Barack Obama is running national campaign advertisements during the Olympics that stress positive messages, he has quietly started airing negative ads in key swing states. “It’s a pretty smart, high-low, good cop/bad cop strategy,” one media analyst told the New York Times. One ad mocks McCain economics: “Support George Bush 95 percent of the time; keep spending $10 billion a month for the war in Iraq.” The other unfairly uses some older clips of McCain to paint him as out of touch about the economy.
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Has anyone else heard this?:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/20/joe-lieberman-will-speak_n_120067.html
Lieberman is vying for the Zell Miller party loyalty award this year.
Steven, I think he knows his committee chairman days are numbered.
It was unfair to suggest that the economy sucked in January? Where you vacationing abroad or something, Phillip?
VT, as noted in previous links today, mcsame is doing a better job with his base than obama. If obama doesnt unite his base, he has little hope of uniting the country. Mcsame’s base will come home to vote, no matter what he does. Democrats? Not so much. Of course, the “anyone but Hillary” chorus of the democratic party might be just as inclined to stay home as the Hillary supporters.
Painting Hillary as the bad seed has tied a knot for obama that isnt going to be easy to untie.
Herding cats and all. I think hubris will prevent obama from picking Hillary. And good political instinct will keep her from accepting!
Oops, sorry, wrong thread. But you know what I mean.
That’s OK; I’ve done it myself. Yes, I know what you mean.
Zell Miller and Lie berman both have that Reagan’s disease , you know where you forgot most the people around you’s names and then make the #1 video by Phil Collins looking like you’ll push the big red missile launch button at 3am, because you left the bath water running and your room is flooding.
WOW those are a pair playing their very own BUCKET LISTS!!!!!!!!!! Obama needs to get negative on McSame and get all the Keating seven, 5 time naval wreckage, likely not to finish his 1st term before being McSame as Duhmya also the Grand Oil PARTY’S dilling everywhere buddy is sure to keep up with Iraq not paying for the war.Even more NO BID contracts with no work being done by his best lobbyists friends and Screw over Boeing to help his other Best lobbyist buds Northrop get the tanker deal. Oh not to mention cheating on 1st wife to get with the much younger and richer Cindy the BEER QUEEN!!
He’s got every bit as much baggage and dirty laundry as Bill Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve always considered Joe Lieberman as a one-trick pony; he’s the Distinguished Senator from Jerusalem. I don’t know squat about the details of Zionism, and while I realize the Jewish people tend to vote pro-Israel, even when Israel behaves…”too” Jewish.
Most Americans I know who are Jewish are in eye-rolling mode. “Let’s just sit down and figure something out.”
But the twice-born Republic Party fanatics won’t have it and the once-born fundamentalist Israelis won’t have it and the Palestinians are sick of this shit but no one else is hiring…
Golda Meir used to joke that the Jews couldn’t be God’s Chosen People because the Promised Land was the one piece of real estate in the Middle East that didn’t have oil.
Try telling that joke today to an Evangelical, a Zionist, Osama bin Laden… any religious fundamentalist.
I frankly don’t understand what Joe Lieberman gives John S (for “Senile”) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) beyond reminding the old man who our enemy is in Iraq.
Where’s the negativity or distortion? Mccain’s former chief economic advisor has gone on record as saying we’re just a nation of whiners.
As we were discussing elsewhere this is what politics has always demanded. You either play down to dirty politics or lose.
Obama should hire Al Franken to write some material for his neg. ads. so he could keep it funny in the mccain vein.
Quitely going negative????
I have been telling you for weeks that Obama has been going negative.
You FINALLY post a thread on the topic after countless ones about McCain and you say he is quietly going negative?
What a fraud you Editors are.
The worst you can put on obama is responding with tit for tat. And, he hasn’t even done that until recently.
It’s about time for a response equivalent to the swiftboat Obamanation. Then you can say he’s gone negative.
GOOD!!!!!!!!!
This is no time for Obama to unilaterally disarm. In fact, I’d love to see the VietNam Veterans Against John McCain write a nice “Corso-type” book about him.
If the McLame Loser Loonies don’t like it then they can think the originator of “ZerObama Zombies”
“Mccain’s former chief economic advisor has gone on record as saying we’re just a nation of whiners.”
He was right.
I think most voters and non-registered people are too apathetic to care this year. Part of the vote–the youth, especially–may be larger, but the middle-agers are doing a lot of sighing and not finding a candidate they really care to vote for.
But we’ll see.
I noticed a headline that said McCain has pulled ahead in a poll. At this point in time, I don’t put a lot of stock in polls. Besides, they don’t count anyway.
Things will begin to pick up soon. I have yet to see a McCain sticker in this city. I have my Obama one on my car already. I’ve only seen one other. Nobody is really into this election. Too many are worried about paying bills and don’t feel any candidate is going to help them be able to do that.
Did McCain ever figure out that Iran is Shiite and Saudi is Sunni? And that alQuada is Sunni?
Just yesterday,
“Why conservatives should denounce anti-Obama book”,
so where is the:
Why liberals should denounce anti-McCain ad
Why?
Because it’s all lies.
Is McCain singing “bomb Iran” a lie? Is his economic advisor calling Americans whiners a lie?
Is “Support George Bush 95 percent of the time; keep spending $10 billion a month for the war in Iraq.” a lie?
Lies. Pack of lies. Overlay the old Mclame video’s with whatever words you want to use today. You could probably grab some old black and white videos with Mcclames long and dedicated history.
Con’s couldn’t do that with Obama. Not unless they use some baby video’s.
Experience.
:)
Live video of McCain dismissed as lies. PRICELESS!
This video isn’t the one where he goes off on the reporter and allegedly spews profanity. This is mccain a short time ago.
Now dubbing footage to make a candidate out to be trying to make like the second coming is dishonest.
Obama doesn’t have to go negative: McCain has endorsed bringing back the draft. How’s that for just plain stupid.
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/20/154212/708/283/571281
Whew! When did this happen? Was this one of his speaking without the notes? I’d like to read that comment!
Link posted above: Priceless . . . both Hank and Nathan:-)
Thanks JM. Does it matter whether he did or didn’t know what he was saying? Shouldn’t a man who wants to be POTUS understand such an important question? I’ve always thought we should keep a camera on him and an open mic at his mouth so he could do himself in.
There has been talk, even from his handlers, he forgets what he’s been doing, forgets things he just said. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has the early stages of AZ. I certainly hope not, even if I don’t like his politics. But how would they hide it during the up and coming debates? It could be scary.
Look how well it was hidden in Reagan. It’s possible. His short, practiced sounding answers with no elaboration at the church thing last Saturday made me wonder. The onlt time he didn’t say just a few words was when he was retelling one of his “stories.” I’ve heard them often enough I could have told them and I didn’t (sic) live them.
I’ve seen him several places this week (seen as in on television) and he is looking down at notes. It is very obvious! Very stilted.
The debates will be interesting.
I still say keep a camera on him at all times and an open mic at his mouth. He will do himself in.
Not sure I can stand another four years of whining when McCain wins. :D
Obama goes negative, and well he should, Republicans have no shame.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080820/bs_nm/indymac_schumer_dc_3
I know how everyone says the youth vote isn’t reliable. THIS might make them more reliable! I know it will motivate a bunch of Mothers and Grandmothers!
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KansasNative
Posted August 20, 2008 at 8:24 pm | Permalink
Reguliar, you could threaten your buddy Hank and he could end it for you “legally”.
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How’s that job going you are about to lose?
“Glad to know that McC*nt supports bringing back the draft to fight all the wars he intends to start.”
Hogwash. You people do this every four years.
Prove McCain wants to do the draft. Liar!
“Not sure I can stand another four years of whining when McCain wins.”
Yes, we can.
DailyKos?? Can’t you people think for yourselves?
Pulling the ole A.G. scam again to score political points. That is what needs an independent prosecutor to examine.
bth
Posted August 20, 2008 at 4:11 pm | Permalink
Did McCain ever figure out that Iran is Shiite and Saudi is Sunni? And that alQuada is Sunni?
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“Obama claimed on May 13, 2008, that we don’t have enough “Arabic interpreters, Arab language speakers” in Afghanistan because they are all being used in Iraq. Obama thereby demonstrated the intellectual laziness and incuriosity that characterizes his campaign: they don’t speak Arabic in Afghanistan, and, anyway, interpreters are drawn from local populations, not shipped around the world.”
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Ben has Obama ever figured out what language they speak in Afghanistan or how many states are in the union he hopes to be prez of?
Did you watch the video? Did you hear those words directly from McCain’s mouth? So, you’re saying McCain is a liar because he said something he didn’t say??
“Did you watch the video?”
What video?
Post at 7:50 p.m. has a link that takes you directly to a video.
“Did you watch the video?”
Now I have. Hogwash. Have you seen the video?
The liars at LibKos are liars. McCain is not for a draft Period. Find another source and I’ll believe it.
That gal rambles on and on. Making a speech really. BS
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fleettwood
Posted August 20, 2008 at 8:38 pm | Permalink
“Did you watch the video?”
What video?
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Keep saying, “It didn’t happen, it didn’t happen, it didn’t happen.”
mccain agrees with woman who says draft must be
got me 108,000 hits. I’m not sure which one you might accept.
OK, I went to the second page of those 108,000 hits and found other stories with some of those words — NOT THIS ONE. Only on the first page about this one. I was wrong!
Yeah, McCain didn’t say what the DU wanted him to say, so he must have said, even though he didn’t use the words in saying it.
Typical Lib logic…
er scratch that…
There is no logic in that, just a lot of dung eating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb061ec8RTY
This better, fleet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRMFwXGBMfI&eurl=http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/mccain-support-draft/
Do you have any authorative quote on that, all I can find are republican bloggers saying he said that? Re: the arabic gaffe.
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fleettwood
Posted August 20, 2008 at 8:42 pm | Permalink
“Did you watch the video?”
Now I have. Hogwash. Have you seen the video?
The liars at LibKos are liars. McCain is not for a draft Period. Find another source and I’ll believe it.
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If a liars a liar, is he really lying, or, as a double negative type thing, is he really telling the truth? Are we being subjected to true republican logic, or is that a true conundrum (con being the key)? Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?
I just heard J M Walker confessing to being a liar. Let’s call the press.
Or wait, might be I hyped that up.
But heck, I’ll play along.
J M Walker claims he’s a liar.
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KansasNative
Posted August 20, 2008 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
Regular
Posted August 20, 2008 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
“How’s that job going you are about to lose?”
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At least I work for a living unlike you the welfare Queen of the dung heap you eat from.
Actually I have revenue streams that I tend to so I don’t “clock in” at a job per se.
Sucks to be a government dependant like you Reguliar.
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Revenue streams? Do you sell weed or something?
Exactly what do you do for a living?
Does it involve a mop?
“Obama claimed on May 13, 2008, that we don’t have enough “Arabic interpreters, Arab language speakers” in Afghanistan because they are all being used in Iraq. Obama thereby demonstrated the intellectual laziness and incuriosity that characterizes his campaign: they don’t speak Arabic in Afghanistan, and, anyway, interpreters are drawn from local populations, not shipped around the world.”
Oh, pul-lease. Yeah, it eas a gaffe–there probably isn’t that high of a demand for Pashtun speakers elsewhere. But, far from being intellectually lazy, Obama realized in mid-spiel that he had misppoken without anyone having to tell him:
And obviously, they may not speak Arabic, but the various dialects that they speak in Afghanistan — oftentimes people who speak Urdu or Pashtun or whatever the languages are — they’re going to be needed in those areas, and a lot of them have ended up being placed elsewhere. So, we’ve got to focus on Afghanistan.”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200805150008
(Before you scream about Media Matters, watch the Youtube video of Obama to which it links)
The overall point being (obviously, to those of us previously aware of this critical issue) that the lack of foreign speakers in the Middle East that we have–whether the language is Arabic, Urdu or Farsi–is inexcusably low.
Sheesh, Adlai Stevenson was right. Obama is probably going to lose.
He needs a majority.
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Rage
Posted August 20, 2008 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
“Obama claimed on May 13, 2008, that we don’t have enough “Arabic interpreters, Arab language speakers” in Afghanistan because they are all being used in Iraq. Obama thereby demonstrated the intellectual laziness and incuriosity that characterizes his campaign: they don’t speak Arabic in Afghanistan, and, anyway, interpreters are drawn from local populations, not shipped around the world.”
Oh, pul-lease. Yeah, it eas a gaffe–there probably isn’t that high of a demand for Pashtun speakers elsewhere. But, far from being intellectually lazy, Obama realized in mid-spiel that he had misppoken without anyone having to tell him:
And obviously, they may not speak Arabic, but the various dialects that they speak in Afghanistan — oftentimes people who speak Urdu or Pashtun or whatever the languages are — they’re going to be needed in those areas, and a lot of them have ended up being placed elsewhere. So, we’ve got to focus on Afghanistan.”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200805150008
(Before you scream about Media Matters, watch the Youtube video of Obama to which it links)
The overall point being (obviously, to those of us previously aware of this critical issue) that the lack of foreign speakers in the Middle East that we have–whether the language is Arabic, Urdu or Farsi–is inexcusably low.
Sheesh, Adlai Stevenson was right. Obama is probably going to lose.
He needs a majority.
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What language is spoken in Antarctica?
What language is spoken in Antarctica?
Any language you like. There is no indigenous (human) population.
Always wise to check on claims made by reups., they tend to pass on alot of b.s.
does it end in “ese?” Antarctese?
Hmmm, goggle says “bus” and it rhymes with goose.
the native language of Antarctica, bus, is an oral language only (there are no symbols for the sounds
so latin is a written language and bus (rhymes with goose) is a spoken one.
<i.the native language of Antarctica, bus, is an oral language only (there are no symbols for the sounds.
That’s pretty interesting. But if you can find me a native population that speaks it today I’ll show you a dodo. ;)
Nope, I’m afraid you’re right! The same article I found this info said most of the scientists (and that’s all the people there) speak English. ;-)
Rage, do you have a dodo? I’ll talk of anything to avoid those little boys and their pissing ocntest on the other thread!
Don’t suppose you want to run down to the education thread? I really like that topic!
Here I am all by myself. All the little boys are either in the contest or circling ’round watching the contest. Boys!
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Regular
Posted August 20, 2008 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
I just heard J M Walker confessing to being a liar. Let’s call the press.
Or wait, might be I hyped that up.
But heck, I’ll play along.
J M Walker claims he’s a liar.
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Another glowing example of “bush” logic at its finest.
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lindainks55
Posted August 20, 2008 at 9:25 pm | Permalink
Here I am all by myself. All the little boys are either in the contest or circling ’round watching the contest. Boys!
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Nahhhh . . . I was in the other room watching the Sarah Conner Chronicles. She’s hot!
Now that makes more sense than the contest! ;-)
Rage, do you have a dodo? I’ll talk of anything to avoid those little boys and their pissing ocntest on the other thread!
Without actually seeing it, let me guess.
Open thread.
Some combination thereof of “the usual suspects” (naming them will just draw it over here!). And a whole lotta personal attacks and not much discussion of anything else.
Was I close?
P.S. Ask, ma’am, and you shall receive! :)
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=dodo&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2
Right on, with the small exception they chose a different thread tonight and a couple different players! Now, I’m off to look at what I hope is your dodo!
I believe wilki said there are 30 languages spoken in Afghanistan, sounds like the inspiration for the tower of babel.
1,260,000 dodos! and soooo cute! Look I found something along the lines of dods here:
Ancient web spins evolution story
The oldest-known spider web with prey still entrapped has been found preserved in a chunk of amber in Spain.
The mesh of silk strands - snaring the remains of a fly, beetle, mite and wasp - dates back 110 million years to the time of the dinosaurs.
The fossil web appears to have been designed along the same lines as the round nets woven by modern spiders.
The find, described in Science, sheds light on the early evolution of spiders and the insects they fed on.
The web consists of some 26 silk strands preserved in a thin layer of amber together with an arachnid’s prey.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5106118.stm
“I believe wilki said there are 30 languages spoken in Afghanistan, sounds like the inspiration for the tower of babel.”
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Genesis 11:4. God seeing what the people were doing, confused their languages and scattered the people throughout the earth.
Well, you know, some think He might do something about what’s going on in that neck of the woods again! I think if an Omnipotent being were to intervene some would be really surprised at how!
Wow. 110 million years, and spiders are still around.
Yet show about 200,000 years ago and think we’re in charge! :)
Gotta go now. I goof off too much as it is. :(