Obama nomination transcends partisanship

The significance of Barack Obama’s nomination transcends partisanship — and buoys hopes for an America free of racial prejudice, discrimination, injustice and violence and truly limitless in opportunity and freedom, our editorial today argues.
Obama projected a compelling seriousness and sense of purpose in his acceptance speech Thursday night, laying out a view of the nation and the presidency that surely resonated for many Americans: “Our government should work for us, not against us. It should help us, not hurt us. It should ensure opportunity not just for those with the most money and influence, but for every American who’s willing to work. That’s the promise of America — the idea that we are responsible for ourselves, but that we also rise or fall as one nation; the fundamental belief that I am my brother’s keeper; I am my sister’s keeper.”
That said, Obama remains a long way from closing the deal with American voters. If he is to deny John McCain the White House and return the presidency to the Democrats after eight years of President Bush — if “eight is enough,” as he had the crowd chanting Thursday — he must still reassure people that he has the resume and judgment necessary to be president, and that his expansive agenda is realistic and fiscally responsible.

93 Comments

  1. GMC70
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Yes, it does. Whether you vote for Obama or not, whether you believe he’s ready to be president or not, his nomination is a landmark, and a signpost that the dark stain of racism this nation has had since it’s founding is waning. It’s not gone, unfortunately; human beings being what they are, I don’t know if it will ever be gone.

    But it is an occasion worth celebrating, no matter one’s political outlook.

    And Sen. McCain, on this occasion, is a class act. Check out his ad here.

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/08/john-mccain-approves-another.html

    Congratulations, Sen. Obama. Now – let’s go to war (figuratively, of course, before the left winig loonies go ape****).

  2. Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    BULLSH!T!

    Obama is a democrat to his core, and he’s giving nothing to CONs and their culture of corruption.

    From The RudePundit:

    The face of Alex Castellanos, Republican stooge for Romney and CNN “analyst,” really said it all. When he appeared after Barack Obama’s DNC acceptance speech, he looked like a man who was about to vomit from being kicked so hard in the balls. “Whoever didn’t get picked for Republican VP today may be a lucky Republican,” Castellanos said, although he may as well have said, “Oh, man, my nutsack.”

    Who could’ve figured out that Obama’s strategy these last couple of months was to play rope-a-dope with John McCain? Let the GOP throw all the sh!t they can at him, the “celebrity” nonsense, the experience canard, all the lies about Obama’s beliefs and plans: he took each blow. And then, in front of a Rolling Stones concert-sized crowd with millions of people watching at home, the man let loose.

    For surely, beyond the “holy crap, we nominated a black man” historic part of things, the most healing part of Obama’s speech was not the muted version of his soaring rhetoric. Nor was it the infinitely ordinary and mostly safe laundry list of “stuff what I wanna do.” No, for Democrats, we needed to see a candidate directly and passionately tell the GOP and John McCain, in no uncertain terms, “Go f*** yourselves.” When he looked out onto that ocean of support and said, “Tonight, I say to the American people, to Democrats and Republicans and independents across this great land — enough!” it was like a long-delayed orgasm finally shuddering through the entire body of the Democratic Party.

    And then he took Karl Rove out to the woodshed, pulled out a switch, and smacked that big ass bloody. After talking about his life, he said, “I don’t know what kind of lives John McCain thinks that celebrities lead, but this has been mine.” After talking about the stupidity of America’s strategy against terrorism, he said, “John McCain likes to say that he’ll follow bin Laden to the gates of hell — but he won’t even go to the cave where he lives.” He mocked the Atwater/Rove reduction of politics to bullshit things that don’t affect anyone’s lives: “You make a big election about small things.” And he flippin’ addressed McCain directly, taking on the digs at his patriotism, “So I’ve got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first.” When’s the last time you heard a candidate call out another candidate like that?

    http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/

  3. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    GMC,

    I read about that ad yesterday and meant to post about it. Yes, it was a positive ad in the midst of this political war, and it was good to see.

    I’ll save the nasties for later. ;)

  4. SolDevVB
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    but for every American who’s willing to work

    THAT lost a few votes!!!

    I am my brother’s keeper; I am my sister’s keeper

    OK, that will get the Marxists back.

  5. GMC70
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Note the difference between McCain’s ad on this occasion, a class act; and the “rude”idiot, via Capn, who couldn’t catch class if he tied it down first.

    Says it all, don’t it?

  6. SolDevVB
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    When did the ad run? Good call on McCain’s part.

  7. outlander
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm… 6 posts here and 138 on the Palin thread. Who stole the Obama show?

  8. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    You’re comparing apples to oranges, GMC.

  9. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    outlander,

    The announcement of Palin was calculated to do just this. It, too, will die down.

  10. Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Lets see, as of 12:53PM, both this thread and the newest thread about McCains surprise pick for VP have both been up for approximately one hour and forty five minutes.
    Currently the Obama thread has 10 comments and the McCain/Palin thread has over 160 comments.
    Now tell me again, who hit the home run and who is standing on first with an infield single?

  11. Political_mama
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Its big news Chris, get over it.

    Sarah is a bad choice- she’s as far right whacko as you can get. Come on rightie tighties- where is your talk about how she should be home with her kid- who needs much help? Where is your talk about how she can get pregnant over and over again?

  12. Jack
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Osama Obama = more welfare, more gun control, more Illegals and more debt.

  13. biased1
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Political_mama- jealous much?

  14. SolDevVB
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    where is your talk about how she should be home with her kid- who needs much help?

    Her husband is home with the kids. How 50’s sexist of you PMom.

  15. Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Yeah . . . when I think of the arbiter of class, I think of GMC.

    Hehehee.

  16. biased1
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    “Her husband is home with the kids. How 50’s sexist of you PMom.”

    good one.

    Libtard feminist will have a tough time arguing against this one.
    They will either come off as jealous, hypocritical or gay…..

  17. SolDevVB
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone else hear…

    Crickets chirping on this thread?

  18. ANTI
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    P.M., what brand of ear plugs does your husband use? I bet they are great.

  19. Rage
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    There have been some questions about Obama’s participation in “welfare to work”: on one hand, some who think he was claiming too much credit for Illinois’ bill; on the other, criticism that he was promoting the same type of mean-spirited poor-bashing that characterized much of the “welfare reform” debate.

    Well, I took a look.

    Let’s note at the outset that the nastiest provisions of welfare reform were federally mandated. States had to pass their own bills to implement it, and were left little discretion.

    Turns out, freshman state Senator Obama was indeed the minority party’s point man on this issue (Republicans controlled the assembly at the time). At one point, he supported the resulting bill, but with three reservations.

    From the floor of the Illinois state Senate, May 31, 1997:

    “Concern number one related to job training. There are a hundred sixty thousand people who are going to moving off the rolls. And right, in Illinois, for entry level workers with relatively few skills, which is the cohort that we’re going to be talking about here, there are not enough jobs for the people searching for jobs.

    The only way we’re going to be able to employ them in a way that allows a liveable wage is if we upgrade their skills and upgrade their training. And, unfortunately, we do not yet have a firm commitment in terms of dollars and a sound framework in terms of programs to make sure that these people are going to be trained. Now Senator Lauzen, as well as Senator Garcia, have been working on this. I applaud them for working on this, but we have to follow up in this area to determine which programs are working, eliminate the programs that aren’t, so that we can transition people effectively into high-skill, high-wage jobs. That’s concern number one.

    Concern number two, who I know some of my colleagues are going to be addressing in more detail, and I think is absolutely critical, is the issue of legal immigrants. Everybody in this Chamber, at some point, comes from an immigrant family. And I don’t like the notion that those people who are here legally, contributing to our society, paying taxes, are not subject to the same benefits, the same social safety net that the rest of us are. I understand the State’s position that they don’t want to let the federal government off the hook. At the same time, I’m a little concerned that we are playing chicken with the federal government to see who, in fact, is willing to veer away first on this vital issue of providing basic protections to legal immigrants who can’t naturalize because of disability, because of old age, or are in the pipeline but it’s going to take them a while to get naturalized. Now the — the Governor’s office, with the help of Senator Syverson and Senator Rauschenberger, have given us what appears to be some accomodations and immediate stopgap measures, although we have not finalized the language as of yet. We’re close, and I’m hoping that we will finalize that soon. and we’re — I’m — I’m standing up here today based on the assumption that the language will be pinned down in the next few minutes.”

    Skipping down a bit. . .

    “My final concern is that we decided not to put in Statute a legislative oversight program — a — a– a legislative oversigh board or commission to oversee this process of welfare reform. I am concerned if, having passed this bill, we then just leave it up to the administration and the bureaucracy to see what happens with folks who are moving off the welfare rolls. It is easy for these folks to drop out of our line of sight. There are generally not represented down here in Springfield. They don’t have powerful lobbies. They don’t contribute to our political campaigns. And as a consequence, if, in fact, we start having problems in this bill, it is not clear, unless we are firm on it, that these folks are going to be protected. And so I strongly urge, although there is not a concrete mechanism for legislative oversight in this bill, that we look very carefully and very strongly over the next five years to see, in fact, how this bill is working and whether these folks are protected.

    Let me just end with — with a brief story about what — something that happened to me last weekend, during Memorial Day weekend. I was outside late at night. I confess I was smoking a cigar; my wife doesn’t let me smoke inside. And there’s an alleyway that runs behind our house, and oftentimes behind our houses, we end up having people who are collecting cans, as their primary source of employment; collecting cans for recycling. Most of the time they’re single men. They’ve got shopping carts. Some of you have seen them, maybe. I don’t know if they have them in your neighborhoods. They’re in mine. What I saw that evening was an entire family, at midnight. A man with a shopping cart, behind him a mother pushing a baby cart – baby inside – at midnight. This was their visible means of support. This is the job that awaited them when they weren’t on welfare. We have an obligation to that family. We have an obligation to that child.”

    http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans90/ST053197.pdf

  20. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    They will either come off as jealous, hypocritical or gay…..

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not arguing this. Neither will I vote for John McCain because he chosen a woman for his running mate.

    While I think this will make things even more interesting, it won’t change a lot.

  21. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Good one, Rage, as always.

  22. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    That picture of Obama, now really, he’ll never get off the ground!

    Is he acending into Heaven or descending into Hell?

  23. ANTI
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:36 pm | Permalink
    That picture of Obama, now really, he’ll never get off the ground!
    ——-
    Nah, to many wine spritzers….trying to catch his balance…

  24. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Or air-out his swetty armpits.

  25. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Incomplete pass?

  26. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Safe at 2nd base?

  27. Phantom
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    For God’s sake man, she’s won Mrs. Congeniality, RW women will love her, others not so much.
    RW men will be torn between having to vote for a ticket with a black on it, or one with a woman on it.
    The man is the head of the household and all that.

  28. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Ah, I see. It’s fine for you guys to bash and trash Obama and anyone else you feel the need to, but just let one liberal do the same to one of yours, and it’s NOT FAIR!

    The H word is on the tip of my fingers…

  29. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    “Oh No! Cops! RUN!!!!!”

  30. Phantom
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Good ad? Like I’ve said, all you have to do is bitch slap mccain, and you’ll have him making nice.
    I recall an incident where mccain kept calling another politician who was black, boy. The politician told mccain if he did it again he’d kick his ass. They became best friends.

  31. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Surfing USA?

  32. ANTI
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    “Hold up, now I KNOW you didn’t take tha last chicken wing MF-er!”

  33. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Anti, now you are going too far.

    How do you know Obama even likes chicken?

  34. ANTI
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:03 pm | Permalink
    Anti, now you are going too far.

    How do you know Obama even likes chicken?
    ——
    Who doesn’t? They’re delicious, once you get the feathers off.

  35. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    They call me Bruce?

    Hiiii Yaaaaaaa!!!!!

  36. ANTI
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    “Oh man! We are going to have to let this one breath!! Woooo! It is ripe!!!”

  37. SolDevVB
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    You take the feathers off? Pussy.

  38. ANTI
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    SolDevVB
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:15 pm | Permalink
    You take the feathers off? Pussy.
    —–
    LMAO!

  39. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Ta

    Dahhhhh!!!

  40. ANTI
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    “I caught a fish this big”

  41. ANTI
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    “My impression of O.J. when the cops came through the door.”

  42. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    When I do crack,

    I can really FLY!!!

  43. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Joe!

    Your nose is cold!

  44. GMC70
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink
    Yeah . . . when I think of the arbiter of class, I think of GMC.

    Why thank you for the endorsement, Capn. I wouldn’t have expected same from you.

    I was just pointing out the painfully obvious, truth be told. It wasn’t that hard. Neither was it any surprise, coming from you. But thanks anyway.

  45. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Woooaahhhh!

    So deep here, slipped in my own Bullshit!

  46. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Are you boys done playing now so the grownups can talk?

  47. Boxlock
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Whoa, what happened…..this thread is DEAD!!!
    Go Sarah…..you go girl!

  48. KansasNative
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Glad to see Officer Kotex weigh in on the obvious.

    Keep dancing poodle boy!

  49. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    He finished his brief remarks by saying, “We’re going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/08/obama.faith/

  50. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Next he’ll instruct us to bow down and pray to him.

  51. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Just as I predicted…he came off as articulate, intellegent, and full of class and vision.
    I’m not really surprised many of you just don’t get it.

  52. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    And Biden said he was Clean too!

  53. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Get what?

  54. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Transcending? Like a God?

    Why all the God-Like language around Barrack Hussein Obama?

  55. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    I get it, Obama wants to creat HIS Kingdom on Earth:

    He finished his brief remarks by saying, “We’re going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/08/obama.faith/

    (Now Libs, don’t question anything, just bow down and pray to Obama. Kiss his annoited Ass. If you don’t get it, pretend that you Do Get It! Or else!)

  56. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Just like I said…

  57. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    So I take it that you think McCain’s beauty queen is a great choice? How funny.

  58. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    I love the way they had to scramble to clean up her face book today. I can’t imagine all the dirt they’re going to dig up on this one.

  59. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Mary,

    What’s this about cleaning up her face book? Dish it.

  60. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Palin doesn’t have the qualifications to be VP.

    Sarah Palin doesn’t have the experience to be VP.

    Sarah Palin admits that she doesn’t know what the job involves.

    She has 5 children. From what I’ve observed about the VP job, there’s a lot of globe trotting involved. Is she willing to leave her family behind on many of these political junkets? Especially a baby with Downs? (Not putting down her baby, just making a statement that a lot of care is needed.)

    I don’t know. It’s possible she could take a look at this and decide it isn’t for her. (To be honest, she may be biting off more than she can chew, but, hey, whatever.)

    And then what will McCain do?

  61. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Mary, they’re only tickled pink by this because they think we’re shaking in our boots. Uh, no. ‘Cause guess what, boys? Whatever she does or doesn’t do will affect you, too.

  62. Regular
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    #
    Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Palin doesn’t have the qualifications to be VP.

    Sarah Palin doesn’t have the experience to be VP.

    Sarah Palin admits that she doesn’t know what the job involves.

    She has 5 children. From what I’ve observed about the VP job, there’s a lot of globe trotting involved. Is she willing to leave her family behind on many of these political junkets? Especially a baby with Downs? (Not putting down her baby, just making a statement that a lot of care is needed.)

    I don’t know. It’s possible she could take a look at this and decide it isn’t for her. (To be honest, she may be biting off more than she can chew, but, hey, whatever.)

    And then what will McCain do?
    ——————
    Appears to me you have much fear in you heart. Are you afraid of multi-tasking intelligent women that show the slovenly, intellectually challenged Liberal women how they can be feminine, a feminist and a professional at the same time?

    Sure appears that way, with all the blind worship of the messiah Obombah you’re spouting.

  63. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Reg, you HONESTLY have no problem her being president?…a fairly good chance too with the shape McCain is in.
    If she were a Dem, you’d be eating her alive.

  64. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    “Are you afraid of multi-tasking intelligent women that show the slovenly, intellectually challenged Liberal women how they can be feminine, a feminist and a professional at the same time?”

    Care to define how she’s a feminist?

  65. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s great that he picked her…now I’m reassured Obama will win….Good choice, John!!

  66. Regular
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    #
    Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Reg, you HONESTLY have no problem her being president?…a fairly good chance too with the shape McCain is in.
    If she were a Dem, you’d be eating her alive.
    —————
    I don’t have a problem with Obama being president either. I just despise Obama’s leftist ideology which he is trying to obfuscate.

    There is no school to become President.

  67. Regular
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    #
    Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Care to define how she’s a feminist?
    ————————————–
    Palin is a prominent member of Feminists for Life.

    Feminists for Life of America (FFL) is the largest and most visible pro-life feminist organization. Established in 1972 and now based in Alexandria, Virginia, the organization describes itself as “shaped by the core feminist values of justice, nondiscrimination, and nonviolence.”[2] FFL asserts they continue the tradition of early American feminists such as Susan B. Anthony, who opposed abortion.[3] FFL is a non-profit dedicated to “systematically eliminating the root causes that drive women to abortion — primarily lack of practical resources and support — through holistic, woman-centered solutions.”[4]

    Feminists for Life maintains that being pro-life is compatible with feminism, and, further, that it is the natural conclusion of feminist values. Members and supporters of the organization claim that being a pro-life feminist is not an oxymoron.

    It appears Mary Caruso, that other women know how to define what feminism is, other than what the ridiculous caricature of what Libs have made feminism to become.

    They type of feminist what Palin represents, actually has consistent values and values are tied directly to a loving caring family.

    In contrast to to radical feminism which is anti-family, anti-life and anti-anything or anybody that disagrees with them.

    Palin is a mature feminist, not one of the massive number of Liberal whiners who have become slaves to their own self-defeating rhetoric.

  68. outlander
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Chuckle…. Catty comments from the lib women. Just like grade school!

    She thinks she’s hot stuff doesn’t she. Thinks she can have it all. Great family, career, accomplishments… hrumph!

  69. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Appears to me you have much fear in you heart. Are you afraid of multi-tasking intelligent women that show the slovenly, intellectually challenged Liberal women how they can be feminine, a feminist and a professional at the same time?

    Sure appears that way, with all the blind worship of the messiah Obombah you’re spouting.
    ===================================================================

    Regular, Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton are the feminists ideals. Cold, hard, arrogant, and they wear the balls of the family.

    Don’t you get that?

    Picture P-Mom.

    Get it now?

    Ahh, I knew you would!

  70. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Or picture Mary or Farmgirl or JR or Monkey….

    Same difference.

  71. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    What’s this Transcending Partisanship crap all about?

    Some holy ass annointing by the Press?

  72. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    At least you put me in good company, LOL

  73. beber
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    “Or air-out his swetty armpits” — Max Grobnik.

  74. beber
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    ” they wear the balls of the family” — Max Grobnik

  75. beber
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    As earrings?

  76. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    “Cold, hard, arrogant, and they wear the balls of the family.”

    That hardly describes me…it’s just your sterotyping of women you use as a facade for the hostility and resentment you feel towards them.

  77. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    Appears to me you have much fear in you heart.

    And you see that where? I made statements and asked questions. That’s now considered fearful?

    Are you afraid of multi-tasking intelligent women that show the slovenly, intellectually challenged Liberal women how they can be feminine, a feminist and a professional at the same time?

    Define feminist.

    Sure appears that way, with all the blind worship of the messiah Obombah you’re spouting.

    Did I mention Obama? Spouting worship?

    Good grief, now you really are delusional.

    And I haven’t posted anything nasty about Palin today. I have no control over others for their kneejerk reactions, only over my own. I think I’ve been fairly intelligent in most of my questions and posts.

    But, please, bash away. It only shows your own fear and disappointment.

  78. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    That hardly describes me…it’s just your sterotyping of women you use as a facade for the hostility and resentment you feel towards them.

    I see they’re back to bashing strong, intelligent women again. But only strong, intelligent Liberal women. There’s nothing wrong with strong, intelligent Conservative women.

    Same old, same old.

    But IOKIYAAR

    Keep digging, boys.

  79. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Mary, they’re just jealous beause men can’t multi-task. :)

  80. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, Conservatives supporting Conservative women and not supporting Liberal women proves we hate women and fear them!

  81. MaxGrobnik
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Liberal hate for Palin spreads onto every topic!

    Love their hate display! It should take them far!

  82. Predestined
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Max, you are SO funny!

    So where do you put women who don’t claim a political party or are neither conservative or liberal, but a mixture of both?

    After all, we women MUST know our place, so please, enlighten me.

  83. Mary_Caruso
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Good nite y’all…have to get up early.

  84. CF2K
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Well well well: Gallup has Obama up 49% to McCain’s 41%, while Rasmussen has it Obama 49% to McCain’s 45%. Not a bad post-convention bounce, I’d say.

    It also is worth noting that the 48 million figure for viewers of Obama’s superlative acceptance address doesn’t include c-span or PBS viewers.

    On the other thread, outlander smugly noted that with his VP announcement, McCain “owned the day’s media,” or something to that effect. Fine by me: McCain’s desperate theatrics do nothing to hold back the sea change initiated by Obama’s epic speech.

    You Repukes can have the media, outlander: we Democrats have the voters. Probably 60 million of them saw the greatest political speech of the last forty years.

    McCain’s publicity stunts can’t erase his beat-down at the hands of Barack Obama–and 60 million viewers saw it.

  85. Boxlock
    Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    CF2K,
    Bask in your own illusion while you can.
    That minor ‘bounce’ is nothing.
    McCain and Sarah stole the thunder as soon as they elected to do so.
    You are looking for the hind teet to feed your liberal hunger, but you are being pushed further and further away.
    Obama’s “greatest political speech” is just that in your own subjective opinion, not universally accepted and will soon be forgotten in the days to come mainly because that is all it was, a prepared speech, nothing more than words.
    Our candidate and his V. P. choice, have significant accomplishments to their resume.
    Your team has…what a guy with no experience but voting ‘present’ a lot of the time, an a guy that hasn’t been able to get past the very beginnings of a primary.
    CF2K, you feel the fear…we all can see it now.

  86. CF2K
    Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    Boxlock,

    Good to see that hard statistics can still provoke a hissy fit from a Limp-Bot such as yourself.

    Regarding Obama’s magisterial speech, I don’t know that any sentient being shares your opinion. Apparently, it caused Pat Buchanan to wet himself with joy during a prime-time broadcast.

    As to the larger themes in your juvenile effort to whistle past the graveyard, the real meaning of Obama’s speech was that he revealed his strategy: namely, keeping his powder dry. McCain had two free months during which to try ever stupid ass line of attack, and only managed to get within a couple points of Obama. Obama saw it all, took the measure of his opponent, waited for the moment when 60 million or so people were watching, and knocked out John McCain with a single blow. It was a stunning move of political genius, and if you can’t see it because you can’t see the larger narrative campaign for the tactical day to-day up and down, you have no business commenting on politics at even this amateur level.

    What you also fail to acknowledge or perhaps even to see, Boxlock, is that Obama has yet to even allude to those aspects of McCain’s record that will be most toxic in the current economic recession. That whole set of arguments has yet to be made.

    John McCain ruled the Friday news dump with his publicity stunt of a VP pick? Well, he had to, didn’t he? And as more and more is revealed about Palin and HER Troopergate–I hear she’ll be giving sworn depositions soon–McCain will be forced to defend yet another terrible judgment.

    Seriously. Best case scenario is that all the viable candidates who actually were ready for the office of VP removed themselves. Worst case? More likely case is that McCain watched Obama’s speech and melted down. “Oh yeah? Well I’ll give him a taste of his own medicine by nominating a woman! And one that nobody’s ever heard of, either!”. This scenario seems most likely to me, given that every member of the Weblog Wingnut wing expressed it in some fashion.

    With this impulsive, narrow, fatally flawed pick, McCain leaves himself nowhere to go but down. The base may love it, but the independents will hate it. And Obama’s reasoned and powerful speech opens the door to welcome them in.

    Of course, it all could go otherwise; Repubican lies and media optics certainly have prevailed before. But at this point Team McCain seems to be flying blind and improvosing, while Team Obama is still executing according to plan.

  87. CF2K
    Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    And one more thing: others have noted that the McCain campaign seems to have taken a page from the Mark Penn playbook, in questioning Obama’s patriotism. But the deeper analogy is that neither campaign had a viable backup plan if Plan A failed: Hillary Clinton was fatally slow to recover from Obama’s victory in Iowa, and now McCain is getting desperate because slinging mud doesn’t seem to be enough. Choosing Palin is an ill-considered act of desperation, and Romney, Lieberman, and Ridge all had the good sense to stay off the bonfire.

    I can’t wait for next week’s “nyah, nyah, nyah!” freakshow of a Republican Convention.

  88. Rage
    Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    It should be fun to watch the McCain people present a history of proud Republicanism while at the same time running as far as possible from the guy currently holding the nation’s highest office.

    But they can’t do that, can they? Not without completely alienating the 28-percenters.

    Sucks to be them.

  89. CF2K
    Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Rage,

    A delicate balancing act, indeed, and one that’s well beyond McCain’s fading political skills. I imagine that they’re hoping Gustav keeps Bush chained to the desk in the Oval Office and away from the dais in Minneapolis.

  90. Franklin
    Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    http://www.the-earchives.com/earframe.asp?p=2310&ref=15

  91. Kandisue
    Posted August 31, 2008 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Obama is a son of a Muslim attended a Muslim school his Grandmother is a Muslim as is his brother. His former pastor “US of KKK” Master’s degree was in the study of Islam. Obama changed his name from Barry to Barack a Muslim name. Over 100,000,000 Muslims believe it is their obligation to kill or convert the non Muslims.

    “But Obama’s nomination transcends partisanship.”

    Does the Eagle ever run a non liberal slant to a story?

  92. CF2K
    Posted August 31, 2008 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    We get it: paranoid white racists like you don’t like Barack Obama.

    By now, some new lies regarding Obama would be refreshing.

  93. Kandisue
    Posted August 31, 2008 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    To a liberal the truth is “racist”?

    Why yes it is.