John McCain has chosen Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate. Sarah who? Most people won’t know a thing about the little-known first-term governor. That said, she is an outgoing, telegenic rising GOP star, a reformer with a Western individualistic streak and maverick image, like McCain.
At the very least, this is an interesting, surprising choice that will get people talking and position McCain as being for change and against status quo Washington. It also appears intended to appeal to women, including disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters.
The most obvious question about this veep pick, especially for a candidate of McCain’s age: Is Palin, age 44 (three years younger than Barack Obama), ready to be president?
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Obama campaign is now attacking Palin as an “inexperienced woman mayor from a small town of 7,000″
Excuse me, but Palin’s small town has more people than the entire vote count of Joe Biden!
She is a former hockey PLAYER.
This will work well in all of the Great Lakes states.
Palin used to serve on the state energy commission.
Palin actually fought “big oil” when she did not like a pipeline deal.
Palin used to be a TV sports announcer. She will clean Biden’s clock!
“Palin doesn’t exactly scream “experience,” which is McCain’s main argument against Obama. For a decade she was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, which has a population of approximately 8,471, which the Obama camaign says is less than 1/20th the size of his former state senate district.
Palin has been governor for two years. Some might argue that in terms of experience she makes Obama look like Robert Byrd.”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/a-lighter-shade.html
Palin, as Governor of Alaska, has helped to negotiate energy and pipeline deals with Canada.
Palin is Governor of Alaska, a state that was actually partially occupied by Japan, in WW2!
Palin is Governor of Alaska, which is closer to Russia, and the old Soviet Union, than any other state!
Politically, good choice. And this is all about politics, of course. Keeps the base happy, cuts into the women’s vote. Young, pretty, well-spoken (is it permitted to say articulate? Yeesh), has a reputation as a maverick and willing to buck Republicans who are corrupt.
And a surprise choice, which cuts into Obama’s fawning media cycle after his speech last night.
We’ll learn more in the following days.
linda, what a phoney “feminist” you are.
John McCain just rained on the Obama campaign.
Sarah Palin will help McCain take the women’s vote.
OK, Franklin. You’re always so right!
Sarah WHO?
Conservatives better look hard at this candidate since she’ll probably end up finishing out a presidential term when McCain dies or is incapacitated from old age if elected.
Republicans are going to love taking orders from a woman.
she’ll probably end up finishing out a presidential term when McCain dies or is incapacitated from old age if elected.
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We can only hope.
Obama did not want to work with women.
That is why Obama trashed Hillary!
Rove says this will get McCain the women’s vote and we all know how much the Senator Clinton supporters respect Rove.
Sarah Palin will help McCain take the women’s vote.
Uh, no. LOL Unlike some of you, women recognize an act of desperation.
Just think, guys, the one thing you really don’t want to happen was just made possible. A woman running the country. PMS? Frilly curtains in the Oval Office? The wrath of a woman wronged? Oh, boy, this will be fun!!
Wasn’t Palin’s father in politics? I seem to remember something about her father. Guess I’ll have to check it out.
Here is a Black Woman Democrat Delegate who will vote for McCain – Palin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdhhW-zSeU
Listening to him speak is difficult, he is so pathetic.
Unfortunately, we on the left won’t get to hear the snide remarks the Republicans make about Palin. But you can bet they will, must not so anyone can hear them. ;)
Margaret Thatcher was a great woman leader.
Reagan and Thatcher and the Pope defeated Communism in Easter Europe!
But like you said earlier, this woman is armed and if McCain treats her as poorly as he does other females she can just shoot him! maybe she can get the whole thing covered up with advice from cheney!
You on the left are BIGOTS!
You think you know Republicans, and you don’t.
What you have is bigotry, an impression formed by bias and emotion.
She has a squeeky voice! giggle!
Linda, Bill Clinton is the only President in history to be a proven sexual harrassment liability.
In fact, Bill Clinton’s sexual misconduct might be why Obama did not pick Hillary —
NAH! Obama’s Muslim roots came through. Obama can not work with Women!
This lady is a good choice. She will help Republicans win the day.
maybe Cindy can hire a voice coach
Should someone tell her that when she claps for her own words at the microphone she drowns out other sounds?
This broad is an excellent choice.
Well, if you don’t vote for Sara Palin, your obviously just a mysogynist. Right?
I’ve heard so much about how if you don’t vote for Obama, you must be a racist, so it must be true, right?
Mysogynist, racist? Racist, mysogynist? Tought call . . .
Yeesh. Now I’m sure I’ll read how Republicans “fear strong women.” Good god,
I smell jealousy Linda.
She fought the Good Old Boy Network!
(Biden, good old boy???) lol
GMC, most women know well the ones who are and aren’t qualified.
Dan Quayle in a skirt.
What a perky little bit of fluff she is!
She fought the “bridge to nowhere”
“If we want a bridge, we will build it ourselves!”
do you need a reference to a ear nose and throat specialist?
It’s nice to see the spin the Republicans are trying to put on this. It is absolutely hilarious. It would be a great pick if McCain was 55 not 72. This throws the whole “experience” factor out the window.
Good grief her hair style went out before she was BORN.
Linda is a liberal first, and a woman second.
Linda is a maid on the liberal plantation.
She has 5 kids, I think she is experienced.
She’s as dingy as they could possibly be!
She’s the perfect match for senile old fart McSame.
After all, we need “a world class snow machine racer” to compliment the songbird’s POW experience.
Great move McLame!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Oh yes and speaking of experience exactly what have
all the “experienced” people in Washington gotten us. Yes the mess we are in now.
Part 2. Hit the wrong button:
There is, for example, this little bit of tripe above:
Just think, guys, the one thing you really don’t want to happen was just made possible.
Referring, of course, to a woman in the White House. Criminee, you guys actually believe your own propoganda, don’t you? Just what would cause a rational person to believe that rank and file republicans “fear” a woman – or a “strong” woman – or a woman in the white house?
Of course, we are talking about our local lefties. Rational is not high on the list of terms that come to mind in describing most of those folks . . .
palin currently under investigation in firing of public safety commissioner
Lib panic, it is a gas!
Come on Repugnants…tell us what a great choice she is…Franklin (who’s been without a woman for some time) likes her!
Beats one-handed pool I suppose for him.
Her voice is not just squeeky, it’s nasal. voice coach needed!
“OMG, look at her hair…She has a squeaky voice! Like totally last year!”-Libs
Lib panic?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahah
I’d point out, Linda, that she has more governing experience as an executive than ANYONE else on either ticket. She sure as hell out-experiences the top of the Dem. ticket.
Of course, maybe that’s damning with faint praise. . .
In your opinion, is her voice pleasing to listen to, GMC?
With that voice?
Put her in a pink dress with white dots.
And she thinks SHE can appeal to Hillary voters?
Nope.
Linda
You pathetic, petty, bitter hack!
A law enforcement officer, who was married to Governor Palen, made DEATH THREATS against the Governor and her family.
That law enforcement officers boss would not do anything about the illegal behavior of this cop.
One of Palin’s staff members might have made some unauthorized calls, but nothing illegal is even considered to have happened.
The Palin staff member who made those calls is on suspension, pending outcome of an investigation that Palin asked for.
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2008/08/21/local_news/doc48a51ae689afc720116172.txt
BlueJay
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:45 am | Permalink
With that voice?
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This coming from a Hillary supporter…HA!
Can’t see from the pic.
Does her hubby let her wear shoes?
KN
My girlfriend lives out of state.
She will be here for the next Michael Buble concert.
I will tell you our seat numbers, if you would like to meet her.
(My plan was to get her out of Pennsylvania, as she is a Democrat activist and friend of fast Eddie Rendel — but she doesn’t really like Obama anyway)
sorry law enforcement officer who was married to gov palens SISTER
I see the we have no facts so lets attack her voice and appearance crowd has shown up
What a brilliant choice….that woman has been my choice for several weeks but nobody knows much about her….YET!
As this progresses they will find out though.
She is capable, articulate, pretty, young, will go after the established politicians even within her own party, bipartisan yet unafraid. She has what it takes to be a leader and would even take McCain on, or at least readily give her opinion.
She’s a sports woman, hunter, life member of the NRA, mother of 5 with a hardworking half native American husband who’s won a demanding long distance snowmobile race four years running.
People….I’m telling you, that woman’s mom and daddy brought her up right, and she has stuck to it on her own!!!
lindainks55
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink
In your opinion, is her voice pleasing to listen to, GMC?
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1. Having just this morning checked out several interviews with her on various programs via YouTube, yea, it’s fine. Frankly, it’s fairly unremarkable; I don’t remember noting anything about it one way or the other.
2. Why is that relevant? Why, I suppose, would that would be your talking point? If she was born with a limp, would you critize her as “gimpy?” But, but, but . . . why, I though you all were the “tolerant” party? I guess that’s true only when “tolerance” serves you, huh?
Is this the best you’ve got, Linda?
Vice President Palin
What’s it to you Freebird?
This aint be nice to a con day.
Boxlicker aka Officer Kotex has spoken…game over..
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPTMcs8wpHc
McCain picked a person in the middle of a scandal:
“I never pressured anyone to fire my ex-brother-in-law State Trooper Mike Wooden.”
But later it is clear that her office DID repeatedly call to get him fired.
Oops.
Then when Public Safety Commissioner Monagon wouldn’t pursue it, HE got dismissed.
Double oops.
Oh, well, at least McCain is consistent–the “culture of CON corruption” still thrives, and Alaska’s “abuse of power” scandal still rages.
Phone polls show 88 percent of respondants think the Governor is LYING.
Priceless.
Linda
She is an experienced broadcastor.
I suggest you get new speakers for your TV set, or take your hands off of your ears —
I know this is hard for you!
BTW liberal bigots, the first women governors came from Texas and Wyoming!
Conservatives are fine with women, as long as they are not liberal wack jobs like Michelle (friend of terrorists) Obama.
“A law enforcement officer, who was married to Governor Palen, made DEATH THREATS against the Governor and her family.”
Franklin,
That actually should read, “…who was married to Governor Palen’s sister, made…”
Just my opinion,what’s it to you? Unlike you I don’t have your myopic view of the world. News flash the world isn’t black and white. I look at people and judge them by who they are not their political beliefs. So it’s be nice to cons,libs and independents day
Capn
That State Trooper made DEATH THREATS —
And the good old boy network would not do anything to that criminal, who was a state employee!
It looks to me like this lady was picked because all of the front-runners for the position declined -not wanting to be linked to a dead-horse candidate.
Listen to Boxlock–
“She’s young!”
But, but, but . . . I thought Obama was “too young and inexperienced” to be president.
And here’s a woman three years younger who you think is ready to step into the White House when Gramps kicks off from old age . . .
“, that woman’s mom and daddy brought her up right, and she has stuck to it on her own!!!”
Yeah! She turned out so good she kept squeezin’ out yuppie puppies even when she was old enough to know better!
Sorry I refuse to live in one of your cubicles as a lib and con. I think for myself
McCain has had a top advisor in Alaska for several weeks.
There is no “there” there.
Rove says it is a “nothingburger”
How do you defend the head of a department that does not punish a law enforcement officer for making illegal threats?
Finding logical inconsistencies in CON arguments . . . it’s like shooting fish in a barrel . . . using dynamite.
Grateful
Actually, many people turned down Obama.
Actually, Obama never asked Hillary.
Reguliar makes death threats and nobody even raises an eyebrow.
Now suddenly making death threats makes you cons pull your panties into a wedgie.
Keep playing with yourself Franklin.
Boxlock
Thanks, typo
The law enforcement officer was married to Palens sister, I thought I posted correction.
Watching TV and typing is a risk.
She got her brother-in-law fired.
Betcha “Franklin” wishes he had that tidbit to manipulate against Obama.
I wonder what Beer Queen Cindy thinks about John S (for Senile) McCialis dumping another trophy wife in favor of a new younger model?
“XXX
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink
Sarah WHO?
Conservatives better look hard at this candidate since she’ll probably end up finishing out a presidential term…”
Very true… independents and moderates should do the same and decide whom they prefer as President Palin or Obama
Regular is a BLOGGER not a law enforcement officer, and Regular is not the only person to make threats, and many of us told him to stop it.
There have been a few from the left, on this blog, as well — you libs almost never correct your own.
hey Blue jay,
Waiting for your snappy comeback
Franklin,
When you can spell Gov. Palin’s name correctly, I might consider taking you seriously. Not that I think that will happen…
monkey
Palin’s husband is pretty tough — yes, he is “Mr Mom” which I respect, but — he could take any two of us on this Blog, at the same time.
Mercy sakes…. Well, I am not surprised that McCain selected a woman for VP…. I AM surprised by which woman…. I fully expected him to select Kay Hutchison from Texas… or maybe the woman from I think Connecticut??? Christie Todd ??????
Ops, you did catch and correct that Franklin, I’m sorry I missed your repost in my excitement over her selection….what a great choice.
Oh and look at this concerning the trooper firing.
“Alaska State Trooper, Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin’s sister, Molly McCann.[45] In 2006, before Palin was governor, Wooten was briefly suspended for ten days for threatening to kill McCann’s (and Palin’s) father, tasering his 11-year-old stepson (at the stepson’s request), and violating game laws. After a union protest, the suspension was reduced to five days.[46]
Governor Palin asserts that her dismissal of Monegan was unrelated to the fact that he had not fired Wooten, and asserts that Monegan was instead dismissed for not adequately filling state trooper vacancies, and because he “did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues.”[47] Palin acknowledges that a member of her administration, Frank Bailey, did contact the Department of Public Safety regarding Wooten, but both Palin and Bailey say that happened without her knowledge and was unrelated to her dismissal of Monegan.[47] Bailey was put on leave for two months for acting outside the scope of his authority as the Director of Boards and Commissions.
In response to Palin’s statement that she had nothing to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the dismissal, though lawmakers acknowledge that “Monegan and other commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any time.”[48] The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator Hollis French, who says that the Palin administration has been cooperating and thus subpoenas are unnecessary.[49] The Palin administration itself was the first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status of the Wooten investigation.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
Pre
So deep of you.
Spelling is the least important part of writing — and btw, Obama always has someone check his work, before he submits it. Most lawyers do. Most lawyers suck at spelling, too.
Chas,
For what it’s worth to you I wish to apologize to you for the personal attacks I have made on you in the past. I’m beginning a new way of life and making amends to those I have harmed is part of it
“Waiting for your snappy comeback”
This is all you’ll get.
I don’t waste my time on con schmoozers.
I posted info about Governor Palin on the Open Thread before WEBlog put this thread up. There really isn’t much to know about her, which may have been one reason for her being chosen.
I hadn’t heard her voice until she began speaking and don’t find it pleasing to listen to. My observation.
I have much more confidence in females than to think someone who supported a very qualified woman for president would now support this woman just because she is a woman. It will take more than being female to gain women’s support.
I can’t say whether Palin is or isn’t a good choice as I don’t know enough to make that decision. I know much more about the two men Obama and Biden.
When all we’ve heard is how inexperienced Obama is and how no one knows who he is, I find it very telling that doesn’t matter any longer. Proves to me that it really is OKIYAR! Oh, and it’s funny to see how quickly you all can spin.
Franklin,
Spelling a person’s name correctly is a sign of respect. You have no respect for anyone or anything.
Palin has 80% APPROVAL RATING in Alaska —
There is no scandal.
Thank God I’m not like you. How do live with all that hate. BTW I schmooze with libs too. I treat people as people until they prove to me that they don’t deserve the treatment. I would even respect you if I met you because I look past the politics to the person.
Oh. And she’s hot. That’s always a plus.
There’s more, Franklin,
Were you allowed to misspell names during your journalism career? Spell check can fix those other nasties, but who’s going to fix the names? It’s the same as misstating facts, and we all know how you are about that. “It doesn’t matter!” says Paul.
Freebird
With all sincerity I respect the steps that you are taking.
regardless if the next President is Republican or Democrat, at least the VP will be good either way.
I believe you Franklin and I thank you.
Blue Jay and Linda, you are so pathetic. All you can do is attack her voice.
By the way, that big AWWWWWW you are hearing from coast to coast is republicans letting out a big sigh of relief that McCain did not let the (not so) MSM pick his running mate. How bitterly disappointed the folks at ABC, NBC,CBS, CNN, NY TIMES, WASH POST,etc must be that he didn’t pick a pro abortion, pro gay marriage, liberal running mate like Ridge, Pawlenty, Liberman etc. Thats the big moan you are hearing from coast to coast as the left contemplates four more years shut out of the White House
“GMC70
Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink
Oh. And she’s hot. That’s always a plus.”
Sure helps get media coverage (and marketing and media coverage are what wins elections)
Is there going to be a VP debate?
No desire my part to better know ya Freebird.
What are the glasses for effect?
Are they supposed to make her look smarter?
Pre
It is “cover” actually.
Rational people will not believe that I am getting paid, if I make lots of spelling errors! lol
Pre,
Read an Australian Paper.
Read a British Paper.
On every page, you will find at least a dozen words that are spelled “wrong” by American standards.
Spelling is the least important part of writing.
I only answer your concern because it highlights how petty you are.
I think the VP candidates have one debate. I suppose the two of them could agree to hold more.
Yeah..make fun of her hair. How adult. that really contributes a lot.
Then again, did I expect anything intelligent from that poster? History says no…not a chance. Insults, personal attacks, yes. But intelligent commentary? Not a chance.
Blue Jay,
You don’t even know me.How does it feel to be omnipotent and be able to nail a persons character by a few lines on a blog?
Is Tina Fey still on Saturday Night live?
She’s smarter than this man toy but she looks a lot like her. More work for her on the show.
Someone should ask John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) on just which issues I might deign to change his position based on Sarah Palin’s advice and insight?
When she brags about bucking the “Old Boy Network,” she conveniently neglects to mention that OBN is geared up to re-elect Ted “InterTubes” Stevens.
“She’s fought corruption!” REPUBLIC Party corruption. And, with the re-election of Stevens likely, just how effective has Palin been on that front?
Is there anyone
on the planetin America who approached this election year with the idea that Sarah Palin should be a heartbeat away from from a cancerous occupant of the Oval Office? Much less the President of the United States of America?Gov. Palin may, indeed, be a fine woman. But this selection is clearly a last, desperate grasp by McCain, in the hopes of gaining Hillary supporters. It may do that for a few. I doubt it will make huge difference, because thinking women will see through the ruse.
It will be interesting to watch how things unfold over the next 2 months.
And I wish I could remember what I read about her and her father, because I recall that it has something to do with her being elected to office. But since I’m sure the ‘net is being deluged by others looking for information, I’ll wait until tomorrow or later. No reason to be in a rush. There’s plenty of time.
I still would show you the respect you deserve if we did meet. I guess that’s the difference between you and me you make snap judgements and I don’t
Linda, I’d point out – again – that she has more executive experience than anyone else on either ticket. She out-experiences the top of the Dem. ticket on that score.
Again, however, that may be damning with faint praise . . .
Hey raptor he doesn’t associate with people that schmooze.
The most obvious question about this veep pick, especially for a candidate of McCain’s age: Is Palin, age 44 (three years younger than Barack Obama), ready to be president?
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Not tomorrow. But neither is Obama. Fortunately, she doesn’t need to be president right away.
Look, she is not as experienced as would be ideal, but she still has more executive experience as Obama.
A strong, accomplished family woman with an 80% approval rating as governor.
And a genius pick.
Freebird
God Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.
The courage to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference.
You can defeat his arguments, but you can not change him. He is useful, in that he gives you a sparing partner and helps you make your points, if you have a point to make.
Serenity man, serenity. You have done what you can.
Paul,
You’re in the United States, not Great Britain or Australia or Peru or China. Stop making excuses and do something about it. You only show your laziness. For God’s sake, just spell the NAMES right, if nothing else.
The Dems criticizing Sarah Palin’s lack of age or experience, well, she is only 2 or 3 years younger than Obama. She has administrative experience as governor and has done a great job, and has a 80+% to 90% positive approval rating.
And remember she is on the ticket as Vice President…..not President.
I have that prayer on a keychain my daughter gave me when I quit,I read it quite often. Helps me hold on to my sanity
She is gonna be great stuff for a “one heartbeat away” ad.
Does McCain’s running mate actually believe that drilling in the Arctic Refuge would occur on a “little 2,000 acre plot of land”?
Does she believe that there are 20 million acres in the “coastal plain”?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/427xjuoj.asp
“One of the pieces of a solution is allowing exploration on that little 2,000 acre plot of land out of the 20 million acres up there in the coastal plain.”
Franklin, From what I have gathered he has no arguments just personal attacks and insults. I would be remiss however, That there are people of the same type on the other end of the spectrum
President McCain
Vice President Palin
I don’t need to spell Osama or Bidding correctly, they won’t win.
Free–I wouldn’t waste any time trying to communicate with either bj or beber. They are both vulgar juveniles that pigeonhole people based on their preconceived prejudices and biases. They are simply not worth the time.
Let’s see . .
The lib criticism is that –
1) they don’t like her hair style
2) they don’t like her voice
3) She’s criticized for having too many children (of course, this is by our resident psychopath of hate, JR)
That’s it? And this from the self-described party of “tolerance?” Riiiiight.
4) Well, she’s young and inexperienced. Uh, look at the TOP of your ticket! And she out-experiences him – ya know, actually being a governor, and executive, and all!
Good choice. And the timing cuts into the fawning news cycle by the MSM after the big speech last night. Too bad about that . . .
I know but one can hope. I discovered a lot about BJ and his lack of response,he is a scared little man who finds his security behind a keyboard
Totally Awesome. McCain did it right. He picked a conservative with integrity and to top it off, she is a woman. Finally a woman that values her family and honors her state. She started out as a hockey mom, joined the PTA, worked on the school board, got elected mayor of her hometown and then became governor. She is pro-life, pro-guns and wants to drill in Anwar. Hallelujah!
This is going to be interesting watching the so-called feminist women. She is a true feminist. I am tired of women who think you have to sell out your family to have a job being called feminist. A real feminine woman puts her family first.
She has integrity too. Here she is with a baby who was born with down syndrome and she had the integrity to not bring that up in her speech today. She would not use her baby to try to get support through sympathy. Wow, what a woman.
Can you just see the women on “The View” this season. What a challenge. They are going to try to put Sarah Palin down and at the same time not lose their audience which is women. Babawa Wawa, Joy Bahre, Whoooopii Goldberg trying to put down Elizabeth Hasselback is going to be very interesting this year. I think for once Elizabeth is going to have a lot of fun with them and they’re going to be squirmng.
Are all you dems sqirming right now? I’ll bet you are. Ha!Ha!
At least Palin has executive experience as Governor, which is quite important if one is going to lead a multi-faceted government.
Having the knowledge to manage, rather than legislate is key to many issues.
Hothead and Lightweight: that’s quite a ticket you Republicans have got yourselves.
It speaks volumes about the quality of political analysis on this blog that the Wingnut portion is all giddy and engorged about the worst VP pick since Dan Quayle. But she’s easy on the eyes, and unlike what Rush Limbaugh said about Hillary Clinton, she “doesn’t remind guys of their ex-wife!”
Passing over the seasoned Republican female leadership (Condi, Libby Dole, Kay Bailey Hutchinson) for a nationally-unknown former beauty queen sure will help to win over the mythic disaffected “Hillary voters” and help to assuage their anger over the Glass Ceiling. I imagine it’s not going to play well with a large number of rank-and-file Republican women as well. And unlike Republican men, Republican women DO more commonly vote mixed tickets.
I said it before, I’ll say it again: after last night’s speech, all the real contenders for the GOP VP slot saw the writing on the wall and opted not to hitch their stars to a dying cockroach. They, after all, want to run again sometime in the future.
First Vicki Iseman, now Sarah Palis: John McCain’s judgment sure is clouded by the presence of a pretty lady, now isn’t it? Not terribly Presidential if you ask me.
One heartbeat away…
“My husband won a snow machine race yayyyyyy”
Yes, there are people on both sides that cross the lines.
I love arguments on issues.
I think personal attacks, if founded, are perfectly ok against CANDIDATES and OFFICE HOLDERS, if those personal issues impact the character or judgement of the office holders.
I think personal attacks, against other bloggers, are way out of bounds.
We have all tried to “fight fire with fire” but that just does not work, since the guy in question has no standards.
He wants to chace everyone out of the room who disagrees with him. Then he wants to hold a “vote”
Those who agree with BJ? 1
Those who disagree with BJ? 0
1 to 0 BJ wins!
“Franklin” contributes —
“Palin’s husband is pretty tough…”
If it weren’t for non sequiturs you’d have no sequiturs at all.
Who cares?
She’s hot!
You left this one out, GMC:
5)Palin currently under investigation in firing of public safety commissioner
While you were making your list of 4 criticisms (which is now 5), did you make a list of 5 positives. I missed it.
I think Palin is a good pick. If she were the presidential candidate instead of McCain, I would have to reconsider who I will vote for in November
So this election will be a change election. If McCain plays his cards right, he might be able to make a change argument. But it will be tough.
What an interesting little brew of irony and hypocrisy the cons tossed us with this one.
They WANT to be the party that advanced women by putting one on the ticket. That’s how they want to be seen anyway.
To TRY and pull voters that WANTED a woman President.
And their choice is a woman shrink wrapped and time warped to us from 1955.
One step forward 50 years back.
An op-ed from Alaska making the case for how Palin is the perfect replacement for Dick Cheney:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/governor-palin-has-what-i_b_103702.html
“She can look you in eye and tell you black is white.
“Especially when there’s oil involved.”
Pre
You arent being very secretarial — you missed a mistake:
“First Vicki Iseman, now Sarah Palis: John McCain’s judgment sure is clouded by the presence of a pretty lady, now isn’t it? Not terribly Presidential if you ask me.”
Of course, CF made that one!
It is a good sign that everyone recognizes the need for change. Can’t fix problems until you acknowledge them.
“Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:29 pm | Permalink”
OMG, I actually agree with one of Franklin’s posts… and I think the Republican VP pick is a good one….
there is something weird going on here!
Libs are goin’ crazy over this pick!
Hahahaha!!!
Putting a hottie on the ticket!!
But she definately won’t be pullin’ the Cliton vote.
Too funny….
So, you can honestly say you would be more comfortable with her as president than Biden? Come on now, get serious.
Here’s GMC70:
“Oh. And she’s hot. That’s always a plus.
I rest my case.
lindainks55,
Investigation, schemestigation. Repukes view the misuse of executive power as a rite of passage. Not that I think she didn’t get caught red-handed misusing her office, mind you.
Given Gov. Palin’s stated views on social issues, I don’t see her doing anything but lowering the number of independents willing to think about voting for John McCain.
GMC,
Add another to your list,
6) Palin incorrectly claimed that drilling in the Arctic Refuge would occur on a “little 2,000 acre plot of land”.
I think gramps is getting ready to trade the trollop in for a new younger model.
They’ll make quite a pair onstage!
Bet mccain does away with the handshake and goes for the kiss.
Both sides have this independent thinking about not voting at all
Damn, Biden will really have to hold back to avoid coming off as meanly beating up the little girl scout in the debate.
But then again I probably should do penance for voting for Bush
Mccain going for that ‘celebrity’ imgage thing he used to love to denounce?
Maybe, now, then they’ll be ready to get down to issues, but something tells me no. Just some eye candy for the old farts.
What an ALL AMERICAN FAMILY!
They had to come home from caribou hunting to find out about their daughter on the ticked.
I love this family bunch.
Obama and WHO?????
“Alaska Governor Sarah Palin’s parents were called early this morning at their home in Wasilla and told to “listen to the radio” by Palin’s husband, Todd.*
Palin’s father, Chuck Heath, says he and his wife were caribou hunting when they were told to come home and tune into their local radio station to hear “exciting news,” but said he did not know if his daughter was the choice for John McCain’s vice president.
“The river was swollen, so we almost didn’t get back,” Palin’s mother, Sally Heath, told CBS News.
The two said they said the call was “a wonderful surprise.”
“I am shocked!” said Mrs. Heath.”
Where’s HLP? I thought he would want to discuss the size of her butt compared to Michelle and Hillary!!
Trying to disarm our attack dog,Biden, are they?
He’ll still rip her a new one!
“Freebird1971
Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:41 pm | Permalink
But then again I probably should do penance for voting for Bush”
at least your recognize the error of your ways
BlueJay,
Indeed: the GOP is running a pretty version of Phyllis Schlafly and trying to brand her as the “true feminist.”
I suspect women who don’t want to be dragged back to the Stone Age by John McCain will be cool to the GOP ticket.
As Barack Obama said, once again, Repukes will try to make a big election about small things. And in this case, they put up a candidate who enables them to trivialize issues of gender.
Yet another example of unserious Republicans and their preference of game playing to governing. The Repuke “nyah, nyah, nyah!” polluting the thread, from GMC70 on down, testifies to the overriding juvenile GOP sensibility.
Well, kids, as we saw last night, the Adults are back, and they’re Democrats. Our worldview will defeat yours.
I can see it now, Obama gets mccain to stomp off the set in a rage, Biden has the young lady running for the curtains weeping.
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cosmos_originally
Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:38 pm | Permalink
GMC,
Add another to your list,
6) Palin incorrectly claimed that drilling in the Arctic Refuge would occur on a “little 2,000 acre plot of land”.
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Hey cosmos, get a clue.
The oil is in Alaska. I’m very sure that the people of Alaska can handle their own affairs without interference from enviro-terrorists like yourself.
Palin was a beauty pagent queen. A young Anita Bryant, maybe?
Been recognizing it the last 4 years.
‘Drilling in the Arctic Refuge: The 2,000-Acre Footprint Myth
Oil development would stamp a spiderweb of industrial sprawl across the whole of the refuge’s 1.5-million-acre coastal plain.’
http://www.nrdc.org/land/wilderness/artech/farc2000.asp
I think HLP is more interested in the size of the thighs, than the size of the prize.
Do you think Hillary would lend her that “hot” orange pant suit?
Might have to take it to the tailor first! lol
Phantom-They’ll make quite a pair onstage!
After watching the curious george and ted show for the last few days it will be a welcome relief.
The only thing missing was the yellow hat.
CF2K
Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:28 pm | Permalink
“Hothead and Lightweight: that’s quite a ticket you Republicans have got yourselves.”
Ah….now CF2K don’t take being upstaged so hard.
What an exciting choice, good for McCain.
Now who do you have running again??? Boring!
Geraldine Ferraro thinks the V.P. was an excellent one.
Women should be celebrating everywhere. Perhaps the ‘glass ceiling’ will be broken once and for all.
The Democrites didn’t want the ‘glass ceiling’ broken as they still think it’s a man’s world.
Just as Bob (ED) Dole was the Repugnants sacrificial lamb in 1996, McSame is the sacrifice for 2008.
Possibly Rove/Cheney put her on the ticket ’cause they wanted to get rid of the little maverick that blew the whistle on Ted Stevens.
Payback’s a bitch among the backstabbing Repugnants.
Reguliar is full of shit and chewing his morphine patches again.
Is Palin a member of the ’sister hood of the traveling pant suits’, or ….traveling mini skirts.
Now we have eye candy assisting cotton candy mccain.
Since mccain couldn’t get buy on ‘borrowing experience’ he thought he’d try ‘borrowin youth’.
Give it up predestined. you are not going to find anything about Sarah Palin and her Father. You are probably confusing them with former Senator Frank Murkowski and his daughter current Senator Lisa Murkowski.
I’ll say this… I respect Gov. Palin. She has stood up repeatedly to Ted Stevens. With the exception of the aforementioned scandal, she seems to be a person of integrity… but, we’ll see how long this lasts in the glare of national Republicans.
Had McCain done this–or even intimated it–BEFORE the Democratic Convention, this could have been the deal-maker.
Now, AFTER Hillary and Bill re-united the Democrats, I don’t think it’s a big deal.
If the parties had been reversed, Palin would be the frontrunner for the 2012 nomination. Now, I think the Fundies will see to it she’ll fade back into the woodwork, and that’s a sad thing.
The Gravely Old Party needs more like her.
Will she have one of those ‘maps moments’?
Geraldine Ferarro darn near ENDORSED Palin, wow!
Pre, check my spelling would you?
Empty suit 20 months in office Corrupted Governor PALIN under investigation along with the REST OF THE GOP=GRAND OIL PARTY IN ALASKA.
WOW he must really have the alzheimers/dementia that he’s been diagnosed with by medical pros watching his actions !!!!!!!!!!
actually, if McCain had leaked the news before the Dem convention — Obama would have been forced to pick Hillary.
mr
The Clintons do NOT want Obama to win.
The Clintons just do not want the blame, when Obama does not win.
Shadow-feels somethin’ slippin’
Cindy has enough money to buy the investigation AND hire a voice coach.
Lets see, as of 12:53PM, both this thread and the newest thread about “Obama’s nomination transcends partisanship” have both been up for approximately one hour and forty five minutes.
Currently the Obama thread has 10 comments and the McCain/Palin thread has over 160 comments.
Now tell me again, who hit the home run and who is standing on first with an infield single?
This pick of Sarah Palin also demonstrates that a woman doesn’t have to be an ardent feminist to get ahead in this country.
Look what she has already accomplished as a young, conservative family woman.
Steven–
I’m pretty sure that Palin played the character “Elaine” on Seinfeld.
“John McCain has chosen Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate.”
There’s more surprises in store.
Stay tuned.
Too bad Rezco went to jail, Obama can’t use Syrian Rezco’s dirty money to cover up Obama’s scandals.
John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) picked a GILF as a running mate and shoved Cindy to the edge of the stage.
She didn’t look pleased.
I found a picture of her posing on a bearskin rug.
CF-
Ya wanna look up this thread and tell me again who’s “juvenile?” Yeesh.
BTW – read up on the “scandal.” The only thing that’s scandalous is that this Wooten idiot wasn’t already fired.
I think the Dems are actually jealous . . .
Libtard feminist will have a tough time arguing against this one.
They will either come off as jealous, hypocritical or gay…..
Sometimes I wish we Democrats were as shameless as the CONs.
Think what we could do with Scaiff-type money to bring the world:
Trooper-Gate II
This time it’s family!
The GILF used her pull as governor to get her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper. (The brother-in-law is embroiled in an ugly divorce and custody with Palin’s sister.)
After his boss wouldn’t fire the brother-in-law, the GILF fired the boss. Palin originally insisted there was nothing to the story. More recently, she was forced to admit her top deputy pushed to get the guy fired.
GM…jealous? Or terrified? This was a very, very good move politically. It takes away some of the impact of Obama’s historical nomination.
It is truly refreshing to see something other than 4 rich white guys running at the top of the two major tickets. Granted, all 4 obviously have cash, but that is the nature of politics these days. It is just an great change from business as usual for presidential politics.
Regardless of the outcome in November, the winning ticket will certainly be historical. This has been a long time coming…and I am glad it is happening.
This broad is an excellent choice.
I dare you to say that to her face. LOL
Just what would cause a rational person to believe that rank and file republicans “fear” a woman – or a “strong” woman – or a woman in the white house?
Ummmm, history?
Give it up predestined. you are not going to find anything about Sarah Palin and her Father.
Chris,
Where did I say it was something bad? You’re being extremely defensive.
Pre, check my spelling would you?
Still lazy, I see. Sorry, Paul, I don’t have time to correct your laziness. But then it goes hand in hand with checking your facts. You’re irrelevant.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink
Sometimes I wish we Democrats were as shameless as the CONs.
Think what we could do with Scaiff-type money to bring the world:
Trooper-Gate II
This time it’s family!
The GILF used her pull as governor to get her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper. (The brother-in-law is embroiled in an ugly divorce and custody with Palin’s sister.)
After his boss wouldn’t fire the brother-in-law, the GILF fired the boss. Palin originally insisted there was nothing to the story. More recently, she was forced to admit her top deputy pushed to get the guy fired.
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Palin welcomed the investigation, because there is nothing there.
Just as you have nothing.
“A great change (not AN)”…typo. Sorry…I know the spelling police are out today.
mrcontroversy says:If the parties had been reversed, Palin would be the frontrunner for the 2012 nomination. Now, I think the Fundies will see to it she’ll fade back into the woodwork, and that’s a sad thing.
Just goes to show how little secular/humanists like you know or understand about Christians. We have never feared having a woman lead our nation. Just not the wrong woman. And Hillary Clinton is the wrong woman. Try reading the Book of Esther in the Old Testament.
Today you have seen the future. I have always said that the first woman president would be a center/right republican. Sarah Palin may suceed John McCain under the succession clause of the Constitution or she may succeed him by being elected in her own right, but she, not Hillary will be Americas first woman president
I’d like to see a list of the things Gov. Palin has done for Alaska. For instance, has she tried to find a way to lower the price of $8 a gallon gas there?
I’m sure that list will be available soon, and my Republican “friends” will be happy to post it. :)
Predestined
Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink
I’d like to see a list of the things Gov. Palin has done for Alaska. For instance, has she tried to find a way to lower the price of $8 a gallon gas there?
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Where exactly do you get your information from about Alaska gas prices?
If you want to know, look it up. Here have a look at this link for Anchorage.
http://www.anchoragegasprices.com/
Pre-
Just what history is that? Care to be specific? No? Or is it just your prejudice talking?
What really upsets the left here, just like with Justice Thomas, is that a prominent member of one of “their” constituencies has gone off the Dem reservation and dared – gosh, dare I say it – to THINK for themselves rather than toe the party line.
How dare they!!!!!
“Are they supposed to make her look smarter?”
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No, you incredibly ignorant nitwit, she wears glasses to see better!
Dan Quayle with a pony tail
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
“It is truly refreshing to see something other than 4 rich white guys running at the top of the two major tickets” — Craptor
Craptor, you shameless whore.
I’ll bet Hitlery is pissed! How dare this woman steal her spotlight!!!!
I want to learn how to race on a snow “machine”!!!!
I wonder if she can spell potato.
The 1st woman VP, Palin.
monkeyhawk says: Sometimes I wish we Democrats were as shameless as the CONs.
Think what we could do with Scaiff-type money to bring the world
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Kinda early in the day to be drinking isn’t it? Of course with the kinda day you people are having, I couldn’t blame you for wanting to get wasted.
Can I mention a name or two? GEORGE SOROS, MOVE ON.ORG, MEDIA MATTERS, ETC. You people have spent more money trying to destroy George Bush and conservatives than Richard Mellon Scaife could ever dream of having. I can’t believe you even brought this up. Oh well, like i said earlier, with the kinda day your having.
All is lost, I can just see the Convention theme signs,and bumper stickers” Vote POW & WOW ‘08″ (hmmm maybe I should get that copywrighted before the Repubs steal it!)
““Are they supposed to make her look smarter?”
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No, you incredibly ignorant nitwit, she wears glasses to see better!
Just trying to not look too superficial.
YOUTUBE is going to go nots with all the possibilities of this combination.
they’ll impose her face on the one with the miss america contestant!
I love the smell of Repub. desperation in the morning!
She’s perfect.
Paulie, report back ‘Dems think it’s a HOOT!’
Just what history is that? Care to be specific? No? Or is it just your prejudice talking?
Well, I guess it’s my prejudice talking.
This week, we celebrated the anniversary of Women’s Right to Vote. A mere 88 years, compared to the 232 years that men have voted.
Women who campaigned for that right were sometimes jailed, chained, beaten and starved. At the very least, they were pooh-poohed for wanting their own voice.
History speaks for itself.
“Palin, as Governor of Alaska, has helped to negotiate energy and pipeline deals with Canada.
Yea, but who’d she have to sleep with?
Well, Reg, concerning the price of gas in Alaska, I can’t tell you for sure what news source it came from, but it wasn’t an obscure one. In fact, at the time I read it, I seem to remember posting about it here and probably included the link.
Anchorage, being a large city, may be quite different than the rest of the state.
“Yea, but who’d she have to sleep with?”
That’s not sexist or anything. Hypocrits.
You people have spent more money trying to destroy George Bush and conservatives than Richard Mellon Scaife…
Ah, yes, but Dubya deserves to be destroyed. :)
“Phantom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
“Palin, as Governor of Alaska, has helped to negotiate energy and pipeline deals with Canada.
Yea, but who’d she have to sleep with?”
Probably the same people that W had to sleep with to make it so far in the Republican party.
Oh yes, oh yes
Chrisfromhacktown,
“Now tell me again, who hit the home run and who is standing on first with an infield single?”
Tell me again who got their assess handed to them in a prime-time convention address and wants to change the subject as much as they possibly can?
GMC70,
Read CFHT? My judgment of y’all as “juvenile” stands.
“BTW – read up on the “scandal.” The only thing that’s scandalous is that this Wooten idiot wasn’t already fired.”
Um, noooooo, GMC70–the scandalous thing is the conflict of interest involving a sitting Governor leaning on a departmental head to fire an individual married to an immediate relative of said Governor. Seems to me, prosectuor, that one ought to take abuses of power and conflicts of interest a bit more seriously.
Congratulations Repukes: you’re now precisely where Democrats were TWENTY-FOUR YEARS AGO.
I would never vote for a woman because she’s a woman. I won’t vote for Sarah Palin because that would be a vote for John McCain and the continuance of the current administrations failed policies. I don’t vote against my best interests, and the Republican party has never had my best interests in mind or at heart. I once was a registered Republican and watched as others voted against their best interests, and I quickly learned the lesson.
But that’s what makes this country interesting and great.
brian_nuevo
Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:51 pm | Permalink
“Phantom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink
“Palin, as Governor of Alaska, has helped to negotiate energy and pipeline deals with Canada.
Yea, but who’d she have to sleep with?”
Probably the same people that W had to sleep with to make it so far in the Republican party.
Oh yes, oh yes
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This is even better than I thought! Watch, if you can stomach it, as the ‘crats reveal their sexist underbelly.
Sarah Palin is more articulate than Barack Obama.
Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Barack Obama.
HA HA HA! And apparently, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson was none too pleased on CNN:
“don’t know too much about her . . .maybe that’s the good news”
Ferraro…
Mondale was cold leftovers from the Carter administration as a Vice president when he picked Ferraro.
No one, but Mondale’s old Aunts and a few Democrats in Minnesota had much interest in Mondale as president. His pick of Ferraro was doomed, due to the totally inadequate Mondale.
stonegroundwheat,
She also has more executive experience than John McCain. Maybe you should run HER as your Presidential candidate, given that she seems to have fewer memory lapses and temper tantrums in public.
Can anyone bring up a legitimate negative on her as running mate?
HAH! I love this comment from over at Firedoglake:
“It’s official — McCain is playing the Death card. “Hey, you broads! Vote for me and you’ll probably get the first female president!””
Bill Clinton says ” I would have picked her”
Here’s one for a Moveon ad: Who knew Mccain had already been drilling in Alaska”, No wonder he can’t shut up about Drill Here! Drill Now!
A cheap attempt to woo disgruntled Hillary voters. But it also takes the experience and age issues out of play. A risky move.
Palin is known as a reformer because Alaska politicians were arguably the most corrupt in the nation (yes, I’m including Illinois). The now-defunct VECO corporation (the ‘pipeline folks’) owned most of the politicians (primarily Republicans, but plenty of Democrats, too), including the former governor, and–of course–our buddies Ted Stevens and Don Young. Debates about oil exploration centered on how crazy anyone was to object.
We’ll find out soon enough how much substance there is behind that smile.
Maybe you should run HER as your Presidential candidate, given that she seems to have fewer memory lapses and temper tantrums in public.
Works for me!
“She has a squeeky voice! giggle!
Damn! I knwe she wasn’t the full package.
Mr_KIA,
How about these:
-Zero national or foreign policy experience
-Under investigation
-Exhibited poor judgment in use of political authority in a personal matter
Witness all the petty manufactured criticisms of Sarah Palin by the DemLibs.
Typical of petty DemLibs when they are really feeling fear.
And well they should, this woman rocks.
She can kick their scrawny butts all over the state of Alaska or this country for that matter and probably will, then come home and be a loving mom to her family.
This is going to be fun!
And here’s the biggest one:
Is Sarah Palin ready to be Commander in Chief?
No negative here yet, Mr. Kia. No positive yet either.
No one, but Mondale’s old Aunts and a few Democrats in Minnesota had much interest in Mondale as president. His pick of Ferraro was doomed, due to the totally inadequate Mondale.
Regular, I’m having a problem trying to see what your point is in the above. Digging up the 1984 election seems a bit reaching, except for the woman VP candidate.
In fact, it appears to be more a comparison between McCain and Mondale than anything. I’m sure that wasn’t what you wanted to present. :)
“Um, noooooo, GMC70–the scandalous thing is the conflict of interest involving a sitting Governor leaning on a departmental head to fire an individual married to an immediate relative of said Governor. Seems to me, prosectuor, that one ought to take abuses of power and conflicts of interest a bit more seriously.
You forget, bush made those actions a matter of Administration Policy.
He also admits to having smoked pot
“She admits that she used marijuana when it was legal in Alaska, but says that she did not like it.[4]“
Is Sarah Palin ready to be Commander in Chief?
I can just hear all the cat calls from the assembled troops.
At least Sarah Palin and I have something in common, in addition to being female. LOL
As a mayor, she raised taxes.
Price of gas in Alaska runs from $4.26 to $4.46 per gallon. Long ways from the $8 a gallon claim as an invented indictment against Sarah. Yes, that is higher than the lower 48, but most everything is more expensive in Alaska.
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Phantom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
Is Sarah Palin ready to be Commander in Chief?
I can just hear all the cat calls from the assembled troops.
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Palin is already Commander in Chief of the Alaskan National Guard. :)
Here’s some more off Firedoglake:
-she’s a creationist, or at least of the “let’s allow both in the classroom” variety;
-she’s sued the government over the endangered species listing of polar bears – to get them taken off the list;
-she’s perhaps the strongest advocate there is for drilling in ANWR (that might be another family thing – her husband is a “production operator” for BP on the North Slope. “Production Operator” means “glorified roughneck”.);
-she’s a global warming denier;
Anyone got a pool going for how long it takes McCain to make a pass at Palin, and she knocks his block off, leaving the ‘publicans with no presidential candidate?
Ladies, and sensitive gentleman, please forgive me for this one, but I do believe we are witnessing the birth of history’s first VILF! ;-)
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I think was a comically bad pick, and that it adds more fuel to the fire regarding John McCain’s lack of judgment.
There are plenty of women ready to be the President of the United States or the Vice-President. Sarah Palin absolutely is not among them, for a variety of reasons. That the Repubican Party offers her up as such, frankly, is an insult to the women of the United States of America.
I see, CF2K. So: throw a woman to the Pantsuit Army, and see if they bite, while at the same time shoring up his nutjob con credentials.
Maybe not so dumb.
Mccain did say early on he wanted to have fun with the campaign, but who knew what a joker he really was?
John McCain is using Sarah Palin.
And, once again, it is a mark of the profound shallowness of venality of the current Repubican Party–and I’m looking at YOU, GMC70 and outlander–that this selection has elicted such callow smugness and juvenile glee.
“Maybe not so dumb.” — Rage
Only if Flaubert was right.
Rage,
Maybe not so dumb, given that he knows he has nothing left to lose. Making a mockery of the process seems to be developing as a Republican tic.
Only if Flaubert was right.
I didn’t say it was going to work! :)
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1846675020080718
Fuel that goes to Lime Village is sent 1,800 miles by barge from Anchorage to the southwestern Alaska hub of Bethel, transferred to another barge for a trip up then Kuskokwim River and then flown by small plane to its final destination. Of a representative sample of Alaska communities, Lime Village had the highest fuel prices, according to a recent University of Alaska Anchorage study.
Gov. Sarah Palin has proposed using some of Alaska’s fat budget surplus to send one-time $1,200 energy-relief checks to all state residents, to suspend the state’s 8 cent-per-gallon gasoline tax and other measures for immediate assistance.
(Please note that I DID leave in the part about Palin attempting to help.)
http://moneynews.newsmax.com/economy/gas_prices/2008/07/18/114131.html
Alaska Has Highest Gas in U.S. — $8 a Gallon
Friday, July 18, 2008 12:24 PM
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Think you’re feeling pain at the gas pump? Consider the residents of Lime Village, Alaska, an isolated Denaina Athabascan Indian community where gasoline prices have hit $8.55 a gallon.
The price is severely curtailing movement around the interior Alaska village, where four-wheelers are sitting idle, said Ursula Graham, administrator for the Lime Village Traditional Council.
“Nobody’s going on joy rides, that’s for sure,” Graham said.
Alaska, despite its status as a major crude oil producer, has the highest average gasoline prices of all U.S. states, according to the American Automobile Association. Alaska prices averaged $4.65 a gallon for regular gasoline on Friday, compared with a national average of $4.10, according to AAA.
Neal Fried, an economist with the Alaska department of labor, said the ironic situation reflects the hard reality that the state’s small population hinders economies of scale and market competition.
“Even if you take all of Alaska into account, it’s a pretty small marketplace,” he said.
High oil prices have helped the state government, which relies on oil taxes, royalties and fees for at least 80 percent of its general operating revenue. Alaska reaped more than $10 billion in oil revenue in the just-completed fiscal year, double the oil revenue of the previous fiscal year.
Fried noted that North Slope oil development is bustling, which would not be the case if oil were $30 a barrel.
“There are more people working on the Slope than we’ve ever counted before,” he said.
But high fuel prices pinch individual Alaskans, especially in rural areas with no outside road access, where shipments of petroleum products require extraordinary and costly efforts.
DOG SLEDS
Fuel that goes to Lime Village is sent 1,800 miles by barge from Anchorage to the southwestern Alaska hub of Bethel, transferred to another barge for a trip up then Kuskokwim River and then flown by small plane to its final destination. Of a representative sample of Alaska communities, Lime Village had the highest fuel prices, according to a recent University of Alaska Anchorage study.
Gov. Sarah Palin has proposed using some of Alaska’s fat budget surplus to send one-time $1,200 energy-relief checks to all state residents, to suspend the state’s 8 cent-per-gallon gasoline tax and other measures for immediate assistance.
The legislature is considering her request in an ongoing special session.
Meanwhile, in Lime Village, boat trips on the Stony River are fewer and more carefully planned. Villagers combine tasks such as checking fish nets and collecting firewood, Graham said.
One man even moved his fish camp, smokehouse and all, from an outer area to the midst of the village so that he could avoid the boat trip entirely.
Residents like the idea of a $1,200 payment from the state, Graham said. But long-term solutions remain elusive.
“Going back to dog teams is an option,” she said. “It’s kind of a joke, but not a joke.”
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New picture of the Republican VP pick:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jcr2970/CommanderInChiefSrPresidenta/photo#5135700373125439298
Fun to read all the sexist remarks from duh Dems.
I bet Hillary is a dark shade of green right now, that a relative unknown is on the ticket as a V.P., while Billiary has to sit brooding over the Obomba cold shoulder.
The GOBN in the Democratic Party is alive and well.
Regular, start making sense.
“Now, I don’t believe that Senator McCain doesn’t care what’s going on in the lives of Americans. I just think he doesn’t know. Why else would he define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year?”
How many here are making $5 mil a year? Hank? Boxlock? Max? Anyone?
$4 mil? Come on, raise your hands.
$3 mil?
Going, going…
$2 mil?
Gone
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Predestined
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink
Regular, start making sense.
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Reading is fundamental.
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Grateful_Dave
Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:43 pm | Permalink
Where’s HLP? I thought he would want to discuss the size of her butt compared to Michelle and Hillary!!
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LOL!
I’ve decided that Michelle has the biggest butt and Hillary has the biggest ass. Michelle has the height to carry hers off and Hillary is married to hers.
brian, somehow I doubt Sarah Palin will be uniting the country as per that fictional character.
And, once again, it is a mark of the profound shallowness of venality of the current Repubican Party–and I’m looking at YOU, GMC70 and outlander–that this selection has elicted such callow smugness and juvenile glee.
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I’m not sure what you mean by that CF. It was just an excellent, inspired choice inlight of the circumstances.
Let me just say that the Democrats opened the door for this with their reckless nomination of Obama. Since Obama cannot claim to be more qualified than Gov Palin to be president, it allowed McCain to tap this attractive newcomer. If the Democrats had nominated anyone, anyone of substance, this election would be a foregone conclusion.
Now? It’s anybody’s guess.
Sounds like she has that sound grasp on economic matters that mccain lacks:
[edit] Matanuska Maid Dairy closure
When the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin realized that the Board of Agriculture and Conservation appoints Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation.[16][40] The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the dairy.[40] The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices.[41] In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids.[42][43]
[edit] Budget
In the first days of her administration, Palin followed through on a campaign promise to sell the Westwind II jet purchased (on a state government credit account) by the Murkowski administration. The state placed the jet for sale on eBay three times. In August 2007, the jet was sold for $2.1 million.[44]
Shortly after becoming governor, Palin canceled a contract for the construction on an 11-mile (18-kilometer) gravel road outside of Juneau to a mine. This reversed a decision made in the closing days of the Murkowski Administration.[45]
In June 2007, Palin signed into law a $6.6 billion operating budget—the largest in Alaska’s history.[46] At the same time, she used her veto power to make the second-largest cuts of the construction budget in state history. The $237 million in cuts represented over 300 local projects, and reduced the construction budget to nearly $1.6 billion.[47]
248 Comments posted so far on Palin, compared to 21 Comments posted on the ascending Obama topic.
Wow! The Press can’t stop talking about Palin, and neither can the bloggers here!
Great pick McCain, and Perfect timing!
Just as Obama was trying to Bask in the Afterglow of his Angelic Annointing last night, Palin steals his thunder and takes the wind right out of his sails!
I heard Obama was in Beaver, PA today. Whoopee!
Reg,
I know you’d love it if the Left would just sit back and stay silent. Trouble is, we’re sick of doing that. We’re sick of seeing it.
And I do believe that the sexist remarks have been going on by the Right for some time now.
Like this one…
I’ve decided that Michelle has the biggest butt and Hillary has the biggest ass. Michelle has the height to carry hers off and Hillary is married to hers.
So, Reg, it’s time to stop with the feigned gasps and false outrage.
CF2K
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
Here’s some more off Firedoglake:
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Firedoglake? thats where the people who are too whacked out for even dailykos and huffingtonpost go to hang out.
Believing in creationism, or at least teaching both sides, is not a liability with the American public. Neither is denying manmade global whining. And the whole polar bear thing was a phony attempt to block drilling in ANWAR by people who don’t give a rats rear end about polar bears.
I really hope that the left attacks her on these issues, because most of the American public (excepting those who hang out at firedoglake) is where she’s at on those issues.
I just love it….you DemLibs are simply shaking.
This woman is going to clean Obama’s plow, or send him back to Illinois to plow.
I just took a look at the number of posts on this thread vs the Obama thread only one earlier.
As of now it’s 253 for Sarah, vs 23 for Obama.
They were put up within only two minutes apart.
Ha….Obama’s old news, who cares about him.
“No, you incredibly ignorant nitwit, she wears glasses to see better!”
Pretty women wear contacts.
Poser faux intelligent women wear glasses.
Well mission #1 is accomplished. McCain has found someone who has the cons EAGERLY anticipating his timely death.
But the back handed reach to women and Hillary supporters?
Sorry John. No way. No how. NO McCain and Marcy Darcy.
“MaxGrobnik
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:39 pm | Permalink
248 Comments posted so far on Palin, compared to 21 Comments posted on the ascending Obama topic.
Wow! The Press can’t stop talking about Palin, and neither can the bloggers here! ”
well duh.
Young female political newbie nominated to be VP running mate for vs speech from long-in-the-news candidate for Pres.
The media loves the new and novel.
BlueJay
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:43 pm | Permalink
“No, you incredibly ignorant nitwit, she wears glasses to see better!”
Pretty women wear contacts.
Poser faux intelligent women wear glasses.
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Absolutely insightful BlueJay……(I think I just threw up a little in my mouth while reading your post)
Boxlock,
Are you hoping the left will leave you all to bask in your glory? Alhtough I haven’t figured out yet what glory there is…
Tough luck.
The new mantra is DGMJGE. Have fun figuring that one out. :)
Well, this HAS inspired me to do something I’ve been putting off.
I think I’ll check out the Obama/Biden website.
Oh I LIKE being pandered to. But not with the back of a hand that has never done a days work.
I hope Biden totally ignores her sex and debates the competing candidate for vice president. To treat her differently would be the sexist view. Either she is or isn’t VP caliber, but the fact that’s she is female shouldn’t be in the equation.
Palin is inexperienced, and I HOPE the Dems make a big deal out of that! It only serves to highlight how inexperienced Obama is! “You want to talk experience, I’ll talk to ya about experience!”
And Sarah should be THE choice for some of the disgruntled Hillary feminists, though her pro-life stand will turn some away. Her pro-oil Drill Here Drill Now position should help strike at the nerve of some moderates and some Dems as well.
Also, Sarah has the following credentials:
1. 2nd Place in the Miss Alaska beauty contest.
2. A woman.
3. A hunter.
4. 2nd Place in the Miss Alaska beauty contest.
5. A fisherman.
6. NRA Life Member – She believes in the right to defend ones own life!
7. 2nd Place in the Miss Alaska beauty contest.
8. Governor of Alaska. (Nice title, almost as good as “Community Organizer” and “Senator”)
9. Pro-life.
10. 2nd Place in the Miss Alaska beauty contest.
11. Conservative on her RECORD.
12. Fresh.
13. Young.
14. Clean.
15. Articulate.
16. 2nd Place in the Miss Alaska beauty contest.
http://www.issues2000.org/Sarah_Palin.htm
http://votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=27200
Women want equal not preferential — in every area.
Sarah?
I love Senator Hillary Clinton. I would have voted for Senator Hillary Clinton.
You Sarah Palin, are NO Hillary Clinton.
You’re a step to the right and two steps behind your man, strutting little martinet for the dark ages.
BlueJay
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
Oh I LIKE being pandered to. But not with the back of a hand that has never done a days work.
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If this ain’t the Kettle calling the Pot black!
Or were you talking about your own hand?
(Blogging 24/7 doesn’t count as work, unless you get paid to do it!)
Palin repeats the Arctic Refuge 2,000 acre lie again, and ignores the caribou calving problem.
And LOL at the photo caption, versus her claim!
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/aug2008/db20080829_272692.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_top+story
[Photo caption] “Steve Smith, a longtime Alaska fisherman, confers with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin during a press conference with victims of the Exxon Valdez oil spill…”
[Palin, near bottom of page 1:] “No one cares more about Alaska’s wildlife and our lands and our water and our air than Alaskans ourselves.”
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Hey, Max, what place did Sarah Palin win in the Miss Alaska Beauty Pageant?
Well now, that one was clever Jay. If Joe Biden were to say that in a debate, I’m sure it would provoke a few laughs.
Seriously, that might not be a bad response to her by the democrats.
Aint she sweet?
Had a Downs syndrome baby to prove she would hold to her “pro life” views.
Procreation as a political tool. THAT’S a new one.
What kind of mother of a special needs child has time to be a politician?
Answer? One who can hire a nanny.
Hey Max,
You forgot she won 2nd Place in the Miss Alaska beauty contest. Ha!!!
That woman has the cutest BRAIN of anybody on either ticket!
The more I think about this choice, the more insulted (as a woman) I feel. Capable, qualified women weren’t chosen, while this one was. Absolutely unforgivable!
BlueJay,
You are a pathetic example of a human being for saying the things you do, over and over.
Maybe you AREN’T human is why you are so disgustingly repulsive.
Shut up and go make me a sandwich Linda!!!
Sarah never mentioned her child as having Downs Syndrome because she won’t use her family politically.
She is to be respected.
She didn’t KILL her child, she loves it.
It’s a little known fact that Hillary Rodham won 2nd place in the Miss Illinois contest of 1967.
All of the 157 other contestents tied for First Place.
Anti,
Linda can’t make you a sandwich she hasn’t the talent to do so.
Caribou Calving Crisis!
What next?
“Pantin’ for Paulin”
Boxlock
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:55 pm | Permalink
Hey Max,
You forgot she won 2nd Place in the Miss Alaska beauty contest. Ha!!!
That woman has the cutest BRAIN of anybody on either ticket!
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A Beautiful Mind.
Boxlock
Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
Anti,
Linda can’t make you a sandwich she hasn’t the talent to do so.
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Fine then, Get me a BEER Linda!!! No eye contact Linda!!!! ;)
She returned to work 3 days after dropping the baby, is she from good stock or what?
When you get thirsty enough, Anti, you can bring two beers.
lindainks55
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink
The more I think about this choice, the more insulted (as a woman) I feel. Capable, qualified women weren’t chosen, while this one was. Absolutely unforgivable!
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Talkin about Obama or Palin?
The more I think about this choice, the more insulted (as a woman) I feel. Capable, qualified men weren’t chosen, while this one was. Absolutely unforgivable!
Watch mccain steal biden’s line, ” The woman that leaves me both speechless and breathless”, except he’ll be talking about his v.p.
When you get thirsty enough, Anti, you can bring two beers.
LMAO.
Anti, she got ya brother. Gotta admit it.
Y’all enjoy the long weekend.
BlueJay
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:54 pm | Permalink
Aint she sweet?
Had a Downs syndrome baby to prove she would hold to her “pro life” views.
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It’s called living your principles.
Never mind, you wouldn’t understand.
lindainks55
Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:04 pm | Permalink
When you get thirsty enough, Anti, you can bring two beers.
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OK (ANTI cowers away)
Maybe the Real strategy, is to announce this was just a red herring to get attention away from Obama, and Romney is the nominee.
Capable, qualified men as well as incapable unqualified men have not been chosen and been chosen for over 200 years. Nothing new there. We have many from each group “serving” in Washington.
It’s gotta be a hoax.
Boxlock
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:59 pm | Permalink
Sarah never mentioned her child as having Downs Syndrome because she won’t use her family politically.
She is to be respected.
She didn’t KILL her child, she loves it.
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JR must have been born BEFORE Roe v Wade?
April Fools!
My take is he really thinks this will help with the women’s vote. I also think he is very wrong about that. The pro-life women wouldn’t have ever voted for Obama so those women are a wash, no net gain. This is a “hook” to get the social conservatives, and time will tell whether it works on that group.
I think this choice may actually lose votes for McCain. Those Hillary voters who had switched to McCain will see the insult in this. The fact that McCain chose a man toy instead of a more accomplished woman will not be lost on Republican women either.
brian_nuevo says: The media loves the new and novel.
News flash bozo: This isn’t the media, this is the blogging public. Learn the difference.
As for the media, well this day did not go according to their script. They intended to spend the day gushing over their lord and saviors “brilliant” speech last night, while reminding everybody that today is John McCain’s Birthday and how old he is, all the while warming up for the week long trashing of the republicans next week. Oh sure McCain would get some coverage for announcing his V.P. pick. After all, the buzz for a week had been that he was going to name Romney or maybe Pawlenty. But that would just play into the MSM’s hands as they would continue to extroll their hero Obama while beating up on Mc Cain and his V.P. choice.
Suddenly McCain makes this amazing V.P. pick and the media is caught flat footed. All this sputtering and stammering in the media and on this post by the lefties as they desperately try to come up with something, anything to smear her with is just hilarious. You couldn’t make this stuff up.
psssch, here you go Linda. Ice cold just like you told me.
Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:30 am | Permalink
You on the right are BIGOTS!
You think you know Democrats, and you don’t.
What you have is bigotry, an impression formed by bias and emotion.
What are Gov. Palin’s foreign relations credentials?
Has she traveled abroad? (That doesn’t count walking across to Russia. ;) )
How many Alaskans have been sent to Iraq, and has she spoken with them?
Still a lot to learn about her.
Talk about throwing the fight. I thought at the least it’d be a little more shrouded, but this? This is just blatant. A first term governor with hockey, mothering and fishing under her belt (oh yeah, she’s hot as well) is a heartbeat away from the oval office? Wait! I see it now, he’s a heartbeat away from her oval orifice, so at least he’ll go out sweating. Brilliant move.
We deserve all of this.
An interesting choice. It seems that McCain is trying to become a Maverick. Let’s see now – McCain was a meverick before he bacame a party man before he became a maverick. It’s hard to keep track.
Hey Chrisfromhacktown:
Put this in your pipe and smoke it.
From Cable and Broadcasting:
“Sen. Barack Obama’s historic speech Thursday, accepting the presidential nomination during the Democratic National Convention, brought in 38 million viewers across 10 networks, setting a convention record.
Last night’s speech bested its closest competitor, day four of the 1992 DNC, by more than 10 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research.
Nielsen first started tracking convention data in 1960.
Across four days of coverage, an average of 22.5 million households tuned in, according to preliminary data from Nielsen, beating the previous convention high of the 1976 Republican National Convention, which averaged 21.9 million homes.
Compared to 2004’s DNC household average, this year’s convention increased by 45%. It should be noted, however, that the main broadcast networks neglected to air day two of the DNC in 2004, greatly diminishing viewership. Ironically, Sen. Obama gave a keynote address on day two.
Coverage of Sen. Obama’s speech last night aired on ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, TV One, BET, Univision and Telemundo. PBS and C-SPAN also carried the speech, but they were not included in the totals distributed by Nielsen. Also not included in these statistics are DVR replays or online views.”
Thanks, Anti. I’ll get the next round.
Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink
linda, what a phoney “feminist” you are.
John McCain just rained on the Obama campaign.
Sarah Palin will help McCain take the women’s vote.
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Wasn’t it the Republicans saying that voting for Obama just because he was black was the wrong thing to do; but now they want women to vote for him and Palin just because she is a woman?
Republicans have always taken women for granted. Women are concerned about more issues than just one. If McCain had actually picked a qualified woman to be the Vice President, then maybe Democrat women would cross over and vote Republican.
But to have some inexperienced, 1st time Governor to be picking up that phone at 3am (in the scenario that McCain does not survive his presidency – which is possible); I just don’t think women are that stupid to fall for it. Besides, most women are more concerned about their homes, jobs, kids’ education, environment, etc. and are going to be looking for someone they can trust to not continue giving all tax breaks to corporations and the top richest people.
If McCain thinks Palin is going to be another Hillary Clinton – then he picked the wrong woman.
At least Hillary Clinton was in the White House and Senate and knows most of the global leaders that we need to repair our alliances with.
“Sen. Barack Obama’s historic speech Thursday, accepting the presidential nomination during the Democratic National Convention, brought in 38 million viewers across 10 networks, setting a convention record.
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Who?
Love,
The Media.
Thanks, Anti. I’ll get the next round.
‘ere ya go Linda and Anti. Reachin across the party divide.
GOD I love America !!!
Palin’s son is going on a tour to Iraq, this September 11th.
maybe her son can email her some foreign policy experience.
“Last night’s speech bested its closest competitor, day four of the 1992 DNC,”
MrC – refresh my memory: how did the following election turn out?
It’s odd that just a day or so ago, the GOP was hitting Obama hard about experience, yet they choose a person with very little. You’re digging hard to call her less than two years as governor vast experience, and as for mayor, come on. Most cities aren’t run by a mayor, but by a governing body.
It seems irony will lead the last two months of this election season. Ironic, isn’t it?
Do we even know whether she knows the differences between Sunni and Shiite? Lieberman might be really busy!
“Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink
linda, what a phoney “feminist” you are.
John McCain just rained on the Obama campaign.
Sarah Palin will help McCain take the women’s vote.”
Paul – women I know – STRONG WOMEN – vote for the person, not just the gender.
Max,
So is Biden’s son Beau.
CapnAmerica
Posted August 29, 2008 at 1:08 pm | Permalink
Steven–
I’m pretty sure that Palin played the character “Elaine” on Seinfeld.
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Yep, seeing her dance might be the only thing that could calm down these cons.
maybe she can send them a Christmas card.
C’mon, you guys gotta remember Elaine’s special Christmas card!
Speaking of Caribou…
What a woman!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122002155637283431.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
WSJ. Magazine
Gov. Sarah Palin: Midnight runs and caribou dinners
But you do have to hand it to McCain Ben. He did take a big chunk of Obama’s momentum from last night.
Pred…one difference is that the inexperienced Obama is running for President…not vice president. The final/tough decisions are made by the president…hopefully someone with more than 173 days in the Senate for “experience”.
Diet pitfall
“My family and I eat a healthy diet heavy in wild Alaskan seafood, moose, caribou and fresh fruit,” she says. “I guess my biggest pitfall is breakfast. I know it’s the most important meal of the day but I still haven’t bought into it. I hate to admit it, but a skinny white-chocolate mocha is my staple in the morning.”
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CF2K
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:06 pm | Permalink
Mr_KIA,
How about these:
-Zero national or foreign policy experience
-Under investigation
-Exhibited poor judgment in use of political authority in a personal matter
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That sounds like BOTH of the Clintoons!!!!
hahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!
loosers…….
HLP – thanks for the insightful analysis!
And here I thought the cons were a whole eon or so behind us more progressive, reasonable folk.
It only took them a quarter of a century to follow the Democrats putting a woman on the ticket! And it was a woman nominated for President by the Democrats inspired the move!
Granted, she’s just a toke.
But with the cons ya gotta note progress even when it is slow.
In an interview just a month ago, she dissed the job, saying it didn’t seem “productive.”
In fact, she said she doesn’t know what the vice president does.
Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain’s ticket mate.
Palin replied: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”
“Chrisfrommactown
Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:13 pm | Permalink
brian_nuevo says: The media loves the new and novel.
News flash bozo: This isn’t the media, this is the blogging public. Learn the difference.”
Hey asshole –
You ASSume I referred to this blog when I referenced the media – are incorrect.
On the job training?
You Republicans are trying to have it both ways. Either experience counts or it doesn’t. Abraham Lincoln had 8 years experience in the Illinois sentate and 2 years in congress before he was elected president.
“Oh, but the United States is different now” you say. And you are correct. We are not about to have over half the country break off into an independent country.
This issue sounds like a wash. Change is the word. It’s about time.
Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink
Obama did not want to work with women.
That is why Obama trashed Hillary!
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Or perhaps Hillary did not want the VP job and will have more power in the Senate? or perhaps be named to the Supreme Court?? That would drive the Republicans and Evangelicals crazy!
WSJ. Magazine
Gov. Sarah Palin: Midnight runs and caribou dinners
Wow, those are the exact requirements on my list for a VP!
Well, I can see Hank’s sold, for his own reasons.
What a fine butt, huh, Hank? Just what we need in a vice-president!
mom,
Don’t you see? “Franklin” is privvy to all the information and dialogue behind the scenes. He’s lived with the Obama family and the Biden family and the McCain family (although in a separate house), and now has moved on to the Palin family.
He KNOWS.
What a fine butt, huh, Hank? Just what we need in a vice-president!
It’ll definitely keep the president’s eyes off the country.
McCain, The Beauty Queen President!
Hey John?
I wouldn’t turn my back on this one.
There is something in her eyes and smile that hints at the psychotic. She looks like she could smile while she was cutting out your spleen.
For your safety and hers, keep her away from anything sharp.
Anyone sharp she already stays away from on her own.
Boxlock
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink
What a brilliant choice….that woman has been my choice for several weeks but nobody knows much about her….YET!
As this progresses they will find out though.
She is capable, articulate, pretty, young, will go after the established politicians even within her own party, bipartisan yet unafraid. She has what it takes to be a leader and would even take McCain on, or at least readily give her opinion.
She’s a sports woman, hunter, life member of the NRA, mother of 5 with a hardworking half native American husband who’s won a demanding long distance snowmobile race four years running.
People….I’m telling you, that woman’s mom and daddy brought her up right, and she has stuck to it on her own!!
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And what does all this have to do with governing the country? There are alot of women with the very same qualities you mentioned, but they are not qualified to be president either!
I think she is more of a ploy to get the women’s vote and if she ever is in the president’s chair, she will be the perfect puppet for Karl Rove and his gang to continue with their failed policies.
Or are you trying to say that Palin would take on Karl Rove?
I wonder if she sat on the casting couch…
Watching the rampant sexism from the left on this thread, alone, is worth the naming of Ms. Palin.
It’s been fun watching the party of “tolerance” fall all over themselves proving how intolerant they really are.
Well she didn’t have to rely on a man to get into the political game, like Hillary.
Outlander,
“Let me just say that the Democrats opened the door for this with their reckless nomination of Obama. Since Obama cannot claim to be more qualified than Gov Palin to be president, it allowed McCain to tap this attractive newcomer. If the Democrats had nominated anyone, anyone of substance, this election would be a foregone conclusion.”
Really, outlander? Let’s compare:
-A forty-two year old Alaska governor with nineteen months experience in statewide office. Total: less than two years of state experience.
-A forty-six year old U.S. Senator, who has eight years experience in the Illinois Senate, and four years in the U.S. Senate. Total: twelve years of state and national experience.
You want “reckless,” outlander? How about putting someone “a heartbeat away from the Presidency” with ZERO national or foreign policy experience, and only nineteen months in office?
Boxlock
Posted August 29, 2008 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
I just love it….you DemLibs are simply shaking.
This woman is going to clean Obama’s plow, or send him back to Illinois to plow.
I just took a look at the number of posts on this thread vs the Obama thread only one earlier.
As of now it’s 253 for Sarah, vs 23 for Obama.
They were put up within only two minutes apart.
Ha….Obama’s old news, who cares about him.
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Not hard to get more posts on Palin on a blog ABOUT Palin. And you think the Democrats are shaking?
Maybe there are more posts about Palin because no one has ever heard of this woman and the only things I am hearing from Republicans is how articulate, pretty, young and hot she is. For McCain complaining about Obama being a celebrity – you just described all the qualities it takes to be a celebrity.
I think Republicans deep down are hating this choice but cannot bring themselves to say what they really think. It’s too bad McCain has sunk this low just to win the election.
GMC70,
Adding intellectual dishonesty to your arsenal alongside the smugness, I see.
“a hardworking half native American husband”
Eh?
Was it to be implied that American Indians aren’t hard working?
I’m “Native American”, hell I was born and raised right here in the good ol’ USA, and as a bonus, I’m hard working yet, I fail to see where (on those guidelines) I’d be qualified to be a VP.
Just a cult of personality.
I see that Officer Kotex has become blog monitor for the day.
It beats his usual job of just plain dumbass.
CF –
AS I said, it seems smug comes easy, given this thread. And if you don’t see the rampant sexism coming out of the holier-than-thou left’s closet, well, there are none so blind as those who bury their heads in the sand, to mix a metaphor.
You might check your own “intellectual honesty.”
All over the country young girls in living rooms everywhere are saying: (in little girl voice)
Mommy mommy, you mean that nice lady on TV who’s going to be vice-president isn’t a wadical feminist? But my teacher said I had to be a wadical feminist to get anywhere is this world. You mean, I don’t!
Yay! I want to be a girl and a mom and a success too.
TIC EB, TIC
Officer Kotex misquoted Dan Quayle with a pony tail:
“who’s won a demanding long distance snowmobile race four years running.”
She distinctly said snow “machine” whatever the hell that is.
Can she spell tomato?
Wow Mom of the year this one.
The newest addition to the family is only a few months old. And it seems the Palin name has been bandied about in far Wingnuttia for some time.
When did she find out the baby was afflicted with Downs?
This may be the first abortion in history not done to maintain a political facade.
Maybe if she split her child with downs open with an ax, BlueJay would vote for her.
Chuckle… I told you that living your principles confuses the libs.
This may be the first abortion in history not done to maintain a political facade.
What’s a matter, JR? She DARED to not adopt your world view?
Well, burn her. She must be the anti-christ. Hell, she ought to just sacrifice that child now, just to make you happy.
Criminee, JR, can you become any more whacko? Just when we think you’ve sunk to the depths, you manage to slink lower.
Must be that party of tolerance displaying that vaunted tolerance again, huh?
Regular
Posted August 29, 2008 at 12:27 pm | Permalink
At least Palin has executive experience as Governor, which is quite important if one is going to lead a multi-faceted government.
Having the knowledge to manage, rather than legislate is key to many issues
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But can she lead? Can she inspire the American people? Can she do anything but ‘manage’? And let’s not forget, she is going to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, so it does matter who this person. She should not be someone who will need on-the-job training.
There is more to being president than just ‘managing’ things. To be a manager equates the presidency to running a company. There is a huge difference between running a company and running a country, or don’t you know that?
Blue Jay, you’ve been posting your idiotic, insulting, childish remarks for 4 1/2 hours now. This has really gotten your panties in a knot, hasn’t it?
I think she is a terrific pick, and even if she is a heartbeat away from the POTUS, that’s fine with me! She’d make a much better president than Obama, any day of the week!
Mom-There are alot of women with the very same qualities you mentioned, but they are not Liberal democrats either!
There, I fixed it.
I don’t see anyone on the Left here crying sexism against the choice of Palin. Where is the sexism? The Left were the ones that had a viable woman presidential candidate – where was the Republican woman candidate?
It was only after Hillary graciously endorsed Obama that McCain and Karl Rove jumped on the thought of nominating a woman for VP. I would have much rather seen them nominate a qualified woman for VP. Was there some problem not getting any of the top Republican women to volunteer to run with McCain? Were they too afraid that the die is cast against the Republicans this year and don’t want to anywhere near when the bomb explodes?
But to cry sexism from the Left is quite hysterical, at best.
Mccain only met her once, but you know mccain, Cindy too was love at first sight!
“You want ‘reckless,’ outlander? How about putting someone ‘a heartbeat away from the Presidency’ with ZERO national or foreign policy experience, and only nineteen months in office?”
Details, details, CF. Her social conservative positions on abortion and birth control make her the ideal V.P. pick.
She fits in perfectly with McCain’s record of voting aagainst contraception for women. He is for Viagra (which should come as no surprise) but oral contraception for women, not so much.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/anotherthing/337332
Also, I don’t think McCain is so stupid that he thinks Palin will help capture Hillary voters. Her selection as a running mate was meant to shore up his problems with his own base.
“Watching the rampant sexism from the left on this thread, alone, is worth the naming of Ms. Palin.”
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GMC, As a woman it is sexist to me that she would get preferential treatment because she is female. There is a job opening, either she has the qualifications, can perform the duties, or NOT. Either she can be criticized, praised, investigated like every other candidate for public office or she shouldn’t have her hat in the ring. To bring her sex into the equation is racist! Women want equality! We want it understood that we are as capable, intelligent, and skilled as any man.
Go back and look who has brought her butt, her beauty, her hunting and fishing skills… into the discussion. Then get off your high horse of superiority, because there is no left or right delineation on the comments.
Every “persuasion” has pretty much laughed at this one! Those that haven’t laughed find it puzzling, insulting, questionable and I think a few positive comments have been made. But all the comments in each category have been across the board of the “left” and “right” persuasions.
‘a heartbeat away from the Presidency’
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The new catch phrase of the Left and it is already old….
I wonder what Palin would do at the first crisis with Putin? Ask Karl Rove what to do?
mom-The Left were the ones that had a viable woman presidential candidate – where was the Republican woman candidate.
Not “viable” not “electable.”
So the one picks a guy that looks just like the guy on “the dollar bills”
Change is all we will have……..
To bring her sex into the equation is racist!
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What?
Mom –
But to cry sexism from the Left is quite
hystericalobvious, at best.There. Fixed it for you.
Shall I point out the number of, to name just one example, “Who’d she have to f***” comments above.” Nah, no sexism there!
The more I learn about Palin, the more impressed I am. She has more executive experiene, including mayorship, never mind there are only 700,000 people in the whole state.
So how big was her town, size of Derby?
Pleefer
Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:49 pm | Permalink
I wonder if she sat on the casting couch…
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Like Hillary did?
No, Derby is bigger.
Her lack of experience CF, is a downside. But, it’s also Obama’s.
But Palin isn’t the top of the ticket, like Obama is. The experience in the Republican ticket is at the top, where it belongs. The Dems, got it backwards.
“‘a heartbeat away from the Presidency’
I heard a comment from a carolinan lifelong repub. that said he may not vote for mccain now.
Mccain has ‘jumped the polar bear’ on this one.
Also, I don’t think McCain is so stupid that he thinks Palin will help capture Hillary voters. Her selection as a running mate was meant to shore up his problems with his own base.
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You could be right Steven. I just think this was a desperate attempt to grasp at the women voters. But McCain does have a major problem with the Evangelicals and maybe this is their bone he is throwing to them. But in the big picture, she will be a heartbeat away from the presidency and I’m not sure is qualified to pick up that phone at 3AM. Hillary was qualified – but this woman, I have my doubts.
never mind there are only 700,000 people in the whole state.
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Have you ever tried to manage a grizzly bear?
GMC, As a woman it is sexist to me that she would get preferential treatment because she is female.
Riiiiight. This from the party who told us, repeatedly, that the only reason Republicans opposed Hillary is because we feared “strong women.”
I swear, this thread has exposed more hypocricy from the left, and cause me to laugh more often, than any in months. Priceless.
Mccain’s just courting the eskimo vote!
“So how big was her town, size of Derby?”
And chicago ill. relates to kansas and the US how?
Palin is the perfect social conservative and should cement the religious right vote. I find it difficult to imagine any of them would have voted for Obama, but some may vote instead of staying home since she is on the ticket.
She is against abortions even in cases of rape and incest, that should endear her to hillary supporters.
Probably not much differece in population between chicago and kansas.
The Repugnants on this blog keep telling themselves that McShame made this decision.
Hogwash.
He was TOLD who would be on the ticket morons.
Rove is getting rid or her for exposing Ted Stevens’ corruption.
biased1
Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:15 pm | Permalink
mom-The Left were the ones that had a viable woman presidential candidate – where was the Republican woman candidate.
Not “viable” not “electable.”
So the one picks a guy that looks just like the guy on “the dollar bills”
Change is all we will have
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As I recall, it was John McCain’s ad that first appeared with Obama’s face on the dollar bill. So that little stunt came from your side. It was only right that Obama responded to this ploy.
Kind of like the mayor of Towanda being chosen to be President.
GMC, you are lumping, making broad brush strokes. Usually generalizations aren’t accurate from either side or with any group. I never said anything about Republicans opposing strong women.
It sounds to me like all 4 of them could do fine as President.
Now the issue will be policies.
One side calls certain policies a 3rd term (hence no change)
The other side claims that there are no policies. (hence no change)
But you gotta hand it to McCain for taking the bounce out of the convention. The soap opera continues.
Since Palin is younger and had spent less time as governor that President Clinton will the Republicans denounce her as young and inexperienced? I think McCain ought to watch out. Sure he has an eye for the attractive ladies and may try to cop a few feels but Palin has a history of fighting corruption. You can’t get much more corrupt than McCain (unless you look at the Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. administrations). She might just report him for some crimes.
Ahh Wasilla, the suburb of Anchorage.
Foreign policy credentials?
What Governor who has become a President has had any?
Outlander:
My source–which I quoted–was Broadcasting and Cable.
a)) Editorially, “Cable Pravda” makes Rupert Murdoch look like a flaming liberal;
b) There are not 38 million people in “the media”
McCain will not draw those numbers next week.
Care to put a friendly bet on that?
GMC70,
I would never deny that individual Democrats are capable of being sexists any more than they are capable of being sexists.
But it IS intellectually dishonest of you to try to lump my and others’ rejection of Palin’s selection as if it were merely “sexist” in nature. Put it another way, GMC70: pretending that my rejection of THIS female candidate entails the rejection of ALL female candidates is flatly untrue. Palin’s failure involves her mertits, judgment, and extreme views–not her gender.
If you want to continue asserting that the opposition to Palin of myself and other liberals is based in gender, GMC70, things are going to get a lot nastier.
I am glad you’re getting laughs, GMC. I am seething! If I was against McCain before (AND I WAS!) this one will push me to doing more, to doing what I should already have been doing to ensure a Democratic win. I’ve never done more than make contributions of money. I’m retired, I have time, I need to find out where and how I can help.
Much easier to be a big fish in a small pond, than a big fish in a large pond.
I agree Kansas Native. McCain has been Karl Rove’s puppet ever since he sold his soul back in 2004 to get the nomination this time around. I used to respect McCain for being the ‘maverick’ but in the last four years, McCain has been a carbon copy of George W. Bush. And no matter who is the vice presidential nominee for the GOP, the truth of the matter is Republicans are tied to George W. Bush and all his baggage and that will play a major factor in this election.
Republicans can run but they cannot hide.
I bet the female anchors on Fox are getting a bit nervous about their jobs, right about now!
And personally I’d rather have a Governor running the country than a Senator anyday.
Four of our last 5 Presidents have come to office as Governors.
Linda go for it! I don’t have the time to volunteer but I can certainly see to it that my entire family gives the maximum amount to Obama.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
McCain will not draw those numbers next week.
Care to put a friendly bet on that?
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No thanks, Mr. C. But if this thread is an indication, Sarah Palin might.
She’s only a second yr. Gov., still learning the ropes. But being it is alaska probably not too many ropes to get a handle on.
If you have to ask someone to be your v.p. that you were introduced to once, how desperate is that.
Does it upset the Republicans that Gov. Palin supports Obama’s energy plan? Does it upset them that she opposed the Bush regime and wants the polar bear to be listed as an endangered species?
McCain should drop out and let Palin run for Prez. She’s more competent and better liked that McCain.
She’s probably the only one they asked that said YES. The rest didn’t want to be associated with the senile old fart.
KansasNative, perhaps it’s because all the other respectable women choices were pro-choice. I suppose McCain could have gone with Jean Schmidt but she’s batshit crazy.
MartyG
Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:07 pm | Permalink
Blue Jay, you’ve been posting your idiotic, insulting, childish remarks for 4 1/2 hours now. This has really gotten your panties in a knot, hasn’t it?
I think she is a terrific pick, and even if she is a heartbeat away from the POTUS, that’s fine with me! She’d make a much better president than Obama, any day of the week!
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Again, another sign McCain made the right pick. The PantyTwist meter is on High.
meanwhile….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080829/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear;_ylt=Ajv7wKdtxURtm7j3oBLnj.Gs0NUE
The female anchors will just show more cleavage like they always do.
FUX News has the lock on the pervert audience share.
Linda – I think you make a good point. Obama has obviously tapped into something and people are responding. Perhaps it is timing because alot of people are struggling just to keep their heads above water and the only thing Republicans seem to care about is how much money they are making.
But what these corporate types don’t understand is there are many more common people than their types. And without the common people, their businesses would shut down and then where would their money be?
There are alot of people being inspired to become active in politics this year and that’s a good thing. It doesn’t hurt when the current Republican president is so unpopular, either.
I really believe that Pawlenty and Romney said NO.
Lieberman said yes but Rove kicked his name out of contention.
I’m wondering if the Bible thumpers will demand that Palin refuse the position and stay home to take care of her four kids. They got upset with Hilary for stepping out of the fundybox role for women but I’m thinking they’ll sing a different tune.
I’m pleased that an old geezer like McCain, if elected, may just die of old age in office and an Alaskan will become the Prez.
Mobilizing a bunch of angry women should put the fear into anyone with sense.
Obama is inspirational and motivational. McCain has pissed me off!
Four of our last 5 Presidents have come to office as Governors
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And the last governor who became president has an approval rating of?????? Has it sunk any lower since the last time I looked?
Maxie I KNOW Rove made the right pick for McCain.
Rove is killing tw pain in the ass mavericks with one blow.
On the day that Obama entered the Illinois legislature, (with help from terrorists William Ayers and Dohrn) —
Palin already had 5 years experience in an elected office!
In Alaska the job of governor is a real job, unlike the governor of Texas. So Palin’s 18 months of experience outweighs the four years Bush spent playing video games in the governor’s mansion.
The sad thing is Palin was picked simply for being a female and as a jab to the Democrats for not picking Clinton as a candidate. The pick does work against McCain because he can’t roll out the attack ads against Obama for being “young and inexperienced” (like what was leveled against Bill Clinton who brought us years of prosperity and a victorious conflict against a first world country with no casualties).
Then again, McCain had few options because he was limited to picking a Republican as his running mate. Palin was the only one in office for a short enough period to be affected by only one scandal.
Mayor of Towanda, (nice little town) hehehehe
How does that rank with ‘neighborhood organizer’?
So there are 350 or so responses on this thread and none respond to me. I’m heartsick.
On what issues would a “president” John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) stop all discussion in the Situation Room and say something like, “Let’s get Sarah’s opinion?”
And who on the planet started this election cycle with the thought that Sarah Palin might be a likely candidate to rule from the Oval Office?
These questions aren’t about gender or party; they simply address the election at hand.
The GILF has all the middle-aged CON guys ordering up another supply of Kleenex. “She’s hot!” and “She’s got a good ass!” are as close to political and governmental issues as the CONs on this forum have come in some 350 posts.
At 9 o’clock this morning none of the CONs could have told you the name of the GILF from Alaska. This afternoon she’s apparently their longtime love goddesss.
Had McC*nt chosen Leona Helmsley’s multi-millionaire dog for a running mate the usual subjects would be praising him for extending the Vice-Presidency to “Puppy Americans.”
And now the Republic Party thinks their best chance for victory is that the GILF might come along for another four years of Shrubonomics.
Can you imagine what posters such as “Franklin” or “outlander” or “Boxlock” or “Regular” or “HLP” or “GMC70″ might say if the Democrats had proposed a “Vice-President Hockey Mom” for their ticket?
Ha ha ha! Fortunately, nobody caught CF2K’s typo on the word “merits.”
Posting on the Blackberry carries its own set of risks.
Palin was the only person (other than dull Joe Lieberman) who said yes,
Paul says:
“Palin already had 5 years experience in an elected office!”
Since Obama has many more years experience in elected office does that mean you are throwing your support behind him? Oh wait, he’s Black, never mind.
Let’s hand it to McCain, he’s gone from getting trophy wives to getting a trophy VP.
Please continue, MP. It’s useful to get an Alaskan perspective on things.
I remember when the Republicans made fun of Hillary for not being home and baking cookies. Now they want us to vote for a woman because she is a mother and a 1st time governor?
Palin may be a good woman with good views but I don’t see how she is going to bring anything of substance to the ticket. But, of course, maybe that is the real ploy here. From all the comments from the Republican men about her being young, pretty and hot – Karl Rove decided to go for the eye candy appeal.
This would be funny except our country deserves better. Bush has bankrupted us, embroiled us in Iraq for 6 years, has been provoking Iran into a war we have no military to fight, unstable economy, weak dollar, good paying jobs are being outsourced, high gas prices, high food costs, high health cares costs, infrastructure needs to be repaired, schools with horrendous drop out rates and the list goes on.
Like I stated before, Republicans are tied to George W. Bush and they cannot hide. If they pull this one out of the hat with a young, pretty hottie then the country is more gullible than I thought.
Let’s see if by November she’s blonde and blue eyed with bigger breasts.
Viewers, if you want to see the 2nd installment of “Mrs. P. Goes to Washington”, you’ll have to tune into the convention!
Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:45 pm | Permalink
On the day that Obama entered the Illinois legislature, (with help from terrorists William Ayers and Dohrn) —
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Paul, you keep bringing this up about the terrorists connection. I beleive that has been proven false but yet you continue to use it.
But let’s see, how do you feel about George W. Bush’s grandfather who was claimed to be a Nazi appeaser, I believe I read that somewhere.
Is that okay in your book?
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Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink
Obama did not want to work with women.
That is why Obama trashed Hillary!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Damn, Wango boy, I thought the judge told you to get rid of the tinfoil hat and get a lead and titanium one instead. Don’t you ever listen to anybody?
CF2K says: -A forty-six year old U.S. Senator, who has eight years experience in the Illinois Senate, and four years in the U.S. Senate. Total: twelve years of state and national experience.
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Wrong again CF2K. Four years ago the “dumbs” unleashed Obama on this nation by letting him give the keynote address at the 2004 Democrat National Convention. Two years later he ran and won the Illinois senate seat. He took office in January of 2007. He has just a little over a year and a half’s time in office. Almost the same amount of time that Sarah Palin has as Governor of Alaska.
Blue Jay,
Sad pathetic little man,full of hate. I pity you.
I’ve just got to watch the late nite comedians tonight!
Obama has no heart.
Obama supports infanticide.
How do we know when Obama’s heart stops beating?
KansasNative
Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:39 pm | Permalink
I really believe that Pawlenty and Romney said NO.
Lieberman said yes but Rove kicked his name out of contention
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Bingo – we have a winner!
If Mrs. P. isn’t scared of Grizzlies, she damn sure isn’t scared of terrorist.
Obama nomination transcends partisanship
45 posts. (44 posts making fun of Obamaman!)
McCain’s surprise pick for veep
417 posts.
The news of the Obama Knighting quickly disappeared off the radar.
Good job McCain!
Will Mrs. P. selection alienate the Huckabe delegates? What an insult! How do you all bear it?
Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
Obama has no heart.
Obama supports infanticide.
How do we know when Obama’s heart stops beating?
And Republicans support infanticide in Iraq – they only call it collateral damage.
Mccain has dissed the Huckster, there is a thing called respect!
420 post, 20 positive.
“Wrong again CF2K. Four years ago the “dumbs” unleashed Obama on this nation by letting him give the keynote address at the 2004 Democrat National Convention. Two years later he ran and won the Illinois senate seat. He took office in January of 2007. He has just a little over a year and a half’s time in office. Almost the same amount of time that Sarah Palin has as Governor of Alaska.” — ChristImwrongalot
Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004, and took office in 2005.
Two years later he ran and won the Illinois senate seat. He took office in January of 2007.
Thanks for proving, once again, that you’re a moron, Chris.
Obama won his U.S. Senate seat in 2004 and took office in January 2005. Look it up.
Kind of like the mayor of Towanda being chosen to be President.
Not even that, KansasNative. Towanda, KS, is in the center of the U.S., while Alaska isn’t connected physically. That does set them apart in some respect. Because of their oil and other resources, they have their own set of, well, not problems, but things that must be dealt with (bridges to nowhere, included). This is a state with a low population, in fact, as the largest state in size, it ranks as 47th in population, including U.S. territories (total 56). 683,478 2007 estimate. Even Montana has more people and Alaska beats out North Dakota by less than 50,000. The only less populated of the states are Vermont and Wyoming. The entire state is about the same population as Fort Worth, TX.
I’m kind of pissed at Randy, why didn’t he use a picture out of the Vogue spread?
No Phantom, the Huckster dissed McShame (the old senile fart nobody wants to associate with.
Roberts, Brownback, and Tihart aren’t even going to the convention to stay away from McSame.
Tihart might go now, he’s a skirt chaser like Bill Clinton.
MaxGrobnik
Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:58 pm | Permalink
Obama nomination transcends partisanship
45 posts. (44 posts making fun of Obamaman!)
McCain’s surprise pick for veep
417 posts.
The news of the Obama Knighting quickly disappeared off the radar.
Good job McCain
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Could it be because no one has ever heard of Palin before? Besides, this VP pick has opened up so many issues that McCain has tried to paint Obama with negatively and then McCain goes and finds someone with the very same negative issues – like inexperienced, young, not enough foreign policy experience and so on?
And just because someone is talking more about a person does not make it a positive thing. It is human nature to talk about the tramp of the town more than the loyal housewife at home.
she is going to be a heartbeat away from the presidency
Perhaps literally…
There is a job opening, either she has the qualifications, can perform the duties, or NOT.
She admitted that she doesn’t even know what being the VP entails. That’s a huge strike against her. Was she lying and playing coy? I don’t know, and I’m not accusing.
The question that hasn’t been asked is has she accepted the nomination?
I swear, this thread has exposed more hypocricy from the left, and cause me to laugh more often, than any in months. Priceless.
And of course, over the past few months, we’ve seen no hypocricy, no sexism, no nasty comments from the right. You all want us to police our own, but not only do you not police yours, you jump right in.
Franklin’s a baby killer? Must be true…I saw it in print.
Linda
You were born pissed off, by your posts here.
You are either delusional, praising dems, or hateful, attacking Republicans.
Obama is toast.
This country is FAR to the right of Obama.
You win elections by getting your base to actually turn out and vote.
Democrats win when Republicans are not motivated.
Don’t forget, Bill Clinton NEVER got more than 50% of the vote, and Bill Clinton tried to sound like a conservative.
Obama can’t win.
“We can’t win with eggheads and minorities alone”
Paul Begala.
One more issue: Governor Palin is under investigation for firing a state employee for improper reasons.
Under investigation? That kinda takes Obama’s land deal off with Rezkoo off the table too. If McCain can pick a candidate for vice president who’s under investigation, what’s a damn land deal–one that, by the way, was perfectly legal?
If you want to continue asserting that the opposition to Palin of myself and other liberals is based in gender, GMC70, things are going to get a lot nastier.
Oh NOOOO!!! Not Nastier!!!!! Yeesh.
Based on gender? Not particularly, though the “who’d she have to f***” jokes certainly came out of the “tolerant” woodwork. But it certainly exposes the “they only opposed Hillary because she was a woman” lie, don’t it?
It’s been a hoot watching the hypocrits of the left twist in the wind.
Oh my….
You couldn’t make this shit up.
I just saw Steve Doocy on the Faux Noise Channel claim that the GILF “…has foreign relations experience because Alaska is close to Russia”!
At that point, I simply have no answer. I just shake my head and turn away.
If people like that can muster up a majority and win an election we probably should look into an alternative to democracy.
I’ll respond to you MH. Are you trying to say that after eight years of claiming that Dick Cheney is the real president, you now think that a McCain Presidency will shove the Vice Presidency back to the traditional role of attending foreign funerals in the place of the President?
Face it dude. Your side got kicked in the nuts again. Somehow or another, the leakiest organization in the World, (with the possible exception of Patrick Leahy) managed to keep this one secret. How they did it i do not know. That they did it has turned out to be a master stroke. They have totally sucked all the oxygen out of the Obama campaign and left the “messiah” gasping for air
Wow everyone toe-ing the party lines. What a surprise.
I’ve been absent from the blog for quite some time so I’ll state a couple of opinions.
I like Obama. I find him engaging and sincere. I don’t believe the Federal Government is the answer to all our problems however.
I am sick and tired of Washington’s politics as usual. Until the nomination today I was seriously thinking of sitting this election out.
McCain has been a Senator far too long – so has Biden-to not be considered “in bed” with the general politics of Washington.
That’s the appeal of Obama. However sincere his ideas are, bigger Government is not the answer to our problems and the idea of some of his supporters that he is some kind of gift from God is nauseating.
I’ll take a first-term Governor whose policies and stance on issues I agree with anyday of the week.
mom
There is NO BUSH ON THE BALLOT.
Also, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn are both terrorists. They both hosted Obama at his first fundraising campaign.
William Ayers was once Obama’s BOSS appointing Obama to direct a liberal foundation.
It is TRUE.
Beber: Son, son. You are so wrong. Obama did not get elected in 2004. Look it up.
You win elections by getting your base to actually turn out and vote.
Democrats win when Republicans are not motivated.
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Perhaps Obama is breaking the mold this election by bringing in people not usually politically motivated?
And if you think Democrats only win when Republicans are not motivated – then you had better hang on to your hat this year Paul. Even some of the Republicans I know are fed up with Bush and Gang. There are good, loyal Republicans who are ashamed of the way Bush and Gang has taken their party and used it for their own personal gain. There are alot of people upset with George W. Bush and that fact, alone, will be a major factor in this election.
Republicans can run but they cannot hide.
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mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 4:38 pm | Permalink
It doesn’t hurt when the current Republican president is so unpopular, either.
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Only in the minds of Democraps.
4:56
Ouch.
Freebird I have no particular problem with you using this forum as therapy or to occasionally cry out for help. You’re a bland mix of gloom with self righteousness. Harmless enough, if a bit tedious.
But if you are gonna ignore the topic and just swing at me?
I reserve the right to hit back. And I don’t play nice or respect much in the way of boundaries.
I’ll leave it there.
Phantom
Huckabee was just on the radio.
Huck thinks this was a GREAT choice.
Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:16 pm | Permalink
mom
There is NO BUSH ON THE BALLOT.
Also, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn are both terrorists. They both hosted Obama at his first fundraising campaign.
William Ayers was once Obama’s BOSS appointing Obama to direct a liberal foundation.
It is TRUE
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But the ghost of Bush is on the ballot – make no mistake. Especially when McCain states emphatically that he will continue the Bush policies.
And why don’t you answer my question about GWB’s grandfather? Bush got some of his family money from his grandfather, didn’t he?
Obama served in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, he was elected to the U.S. Senate in November 2004 and began serving in 2005.
It doesn’t hurt when the current Republican president is so unpopular, either.
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Only in the minds of Democraps
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And the majority of Americans, don’t forget that! What is Bush’s approval rating now? I haven’t looked lately because I was actually starting to feel sorry for the little guy.
Linda – you got it right about Obama. I am originally from Illinois and still have alot of family there. Obama is popular with Democrats and Republicans there. He was known as someone who reached across the aisle to solve the problems.
Maybe this time we will really have a chance to get a ‘uniter, not a divider’ – what do you think?
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mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:21 pm | Permalink
It doesn’t hurt when the current Republican president is so unpopular, either.
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Only in the minds of Democraps
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And the majority of Americans, don’t forget that! What is Bush’s approval rating now? I haven’t looked lately because I was actually starting to feel sorry for the little guy.
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Approval ratings. You don’t even remember what President Bush said about polls at the very beginning of his presidency?
Bush stated he doesn’t govern by polls. It appears that Obama the messiah loves the poll and is locked into flip-flopping his way through life.
The Democraps are just pissed because of success in Iraq. The surged worked and the Crits can’t stand it.
Well, you do know that Senator Biden voted for the war because Sadam Hussein had WMD, it’s on the record, check it.
Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:19 pm | Permalink
Phantom
Huckabee was just on the radio.
Huck thinks this was a GREAT choice.
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Huckabee is thinking about 2012 and doesn’t want to turn off the Republicans. Besides, he is probably thinking ‘better her than me’.
mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:25 pm | Permalink
Maybe this time we will really have a chance to get a ‘uniter, not a divider’ – what do you think? ____________________________________________________
That went out the window with Biden on the ticket IMHO.
Alaska’s economy is tied to the oil industry with oil making up 80% of the state’s revenue. Palin took office when oil prices were climbing through the roof adding a lot to the state’s coffers.
Palin got elected in a heavily Republican state simply because she was not Murkowski (the former governor) who was tied up with being connected to receiving bribes from the companies. Her “reform” status comes from rewriting the oil tax law that had been tainted to the scandals. The result of the rewrite was an additional $1.5 billion to the state budget.
Despite a large budget Palin decided to display her “fiscal conservatism” by cutting popular programs from the state budget. The move to make herself look more Republican didn’t play out too well with the public. However, such a move was seen as needed in order to distance herself from the borrow and spend Republicans in the federal government and the corruption surrounding Senator Stevens and Rep. Young (she endorsed her Lt. Gov. in the primary against Young, but you won’t hear any tune of party disunity from the corporate media).
Like more and more Alaskans, including many Republicans, she recognizes the threat of global warming to the economic future of Alaska. Melting permafrost could destroy much of Alaska’s infrastructure resulting in hundreds of billions of dollars in repair. For her part she supports Obama’s energy plan and joined environmental groups in suing the Bush regime over their move to take polar bears off the endangered species list.
Under her time in office she successfully got the gas pipeline construction plan started. The talk of a gas pipeline started when I still lived in Alaska, so it’s been going for quite awhile (I think it was either under Wallyworld or Knowles term). That fact alone would boost her popularity rating for quite some time since it recalls the boom times of the pipeline construction.
Palin used to be a pot smoker. Not that that’s really illegal in Alaska but some Republicans have criticized Obama for having used illicit drugs so I expect some hypocrisy to be revealed.
McCain’s pick of Palin was a good one because Palin acts in the way McCain only talks about. She acted as a fiscal conservative while McCain joined the borrow and spend Republicans in doubling the national debt. She promoted actions to combat global warming while McCain only gave it lip service. And she really is young (politically speaking) while McCain simply pretends to be. It’s doubtful she’s very supporting of the Iraqi occupation since one of her sons will be deployed to serve in McCain’s war for oil. Despite her short time in office she still displays more competence than McCain and he should step aside to let her run for President.
Beber: Son, son. You are so wrong. Obama did not get elected in 2004. Look it up.
Does anyone think proving this poor fool wrong is worth the effort?
Paul, you’ve already admitted that you joined with Operation Rescue in protesting at Tiller’s. So you can try to sue me but it will be thrown out in court once I provide the Google cache of your comment. Too bad you don’t have a license to practice law because I could have you disbarred for making such threats.
I think so, mom! The Obama/Biden ticket is a superior one.
There are two components of the Republican Party that I take issue with — the neocons and the social conservatives (that’s the polite term but more accurate would be religious right). Looks like the McCain/Palin ticket covers both those components well. World domination and legislating morality aren’t philosophies I will ever support.
Approval ratings. You don’t even remember what President Bush said about polls at the very beginning of his presidency?
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I also remember he stated that he was a ‘uniter, not a divider’ and how is that working for him?
Approval ratings are a gauge as to how someone is doing on their job. And wasn’t Palin’s approval rating as governor Alaska being touted up-thread?
George W. Bush said alot of things during his two terms, but now we learn that we have been mislead or there are sealed, secret records that no one gets to read.
There are not too many people who believe George W. Bush anymore when he opens his mouth. and that he has brought onto himself.
Bush also promised to find Bin Laden but now does not even think about the self-admitted mass murderer behind 9/11.
Bush also promised to restore honesty and integrity to the White House – again, how is that working for him?
In case you remember Paul, here’s the cache file proving your association with the terrorist, criminal organization Operation Rescue.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:e_4tMOHhJP8J:www.altlaw.org/v1/cases/1014336+%22paul+rosell%22+%22operation+Rescue%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Sue away buddy.
Maggotpunk
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:29 pm | Permalink
It’s doubtful she’s very supporting of the Iraqi occupation since one of her sons will be deployed to serve in McCain’s war for oil.
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That’s an interesting call.
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mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink
Approval ratings. You don’t even remember what President Bush said about polls at the very beginning of his presidency?
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I also remember he stated that he was a ‘uniter, not a divider’ and how is that working for him?
Approval ratings are a gauge as to how someone is doing on their job. And wasn’t Palin’s approval rating as governor Alaska being touted up-thread?
George W. Bush said alot of things during his two terms, but now we learn that we have been mislead or there are sealed, secret records that no one gets to read.
There are not too many people who believe George W. Bush anymore when he opens his mouth. and that he has brought onto himself.
Bush also promised to find Bin Laden but now does not even think about the self-admitted mass murderer behind 9/11.
Bush also promised to restore honesty and integrity to the White House – again, how is that working for him?
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pssst…Mom,
Bush is not running for office.
Heh, maybe McCain should step aside, and let her run against Obama!
Mr_Kia
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:28 pm | Permalink
mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:25 pm | Permalink
Maybe this time we will really have a chance to get a ‘uniter, not a divider’ – what do you think? ____________________________________________________
That went out the window with Biden on the ticket IMHO.
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What’s the problem, Kia? Biden has been in Washington for several decades and knows McCain very well. Biden gave praise to McCain and called him a good friend. But Biden will not back down from a debate about policy. After all, if McCain is using Karl Rove for his attack dog, then Biden is just the man to take the dog out to the doghouse where he belongs.
mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink
Approval ratings are a gauge as to how someone is doing on their job.
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That’s comedy too.
I’m just saying Biden is one of the most polarizing figures in Washington.
Obama’s lack of experience and “good ole boy” connections is I think one of his greatest appeals.
That all goes out the window with Biden on the same stage.
There are two components of the Republican Party that I take issue with — the neocons and the social conservatives (that’s the polite term but more accurate would be religious right). Looks like the McCain/Palin ticket covers both those components well. World domination and legislating morality aren’t philosophies I will ever support.
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I agree Linda. What bothers me about the Religious Right is the fact they had total control of Congress and the White House for several years and what did we get? Sex scandals, lobbyist money flowing from K-street, the Iraq War, the anti gay marriage amendment and abortion.
I do not understand how these Religious Right people can be so hung up on abortion here in the US but not see we are killing innocent born children in Iraq every day but they call it ‘collateral damage’.
If the Iraq War was actually about war on terror, maybe I could see it. But the real war on terror is in Afghanistan and Pakistan and Bush does not even think about Bin Laden anymore. What a slap in the face of every 9/11 victim and their families.
pssst…Mom,
Bush is not running for office
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Pssst….did you miss the part where McCain stated he will continue Bush’s policies?
What part of continue do you not understand?
Biden is a great contrast with McCain. Biden has a net worth of $150k, McCain is worth over $100 million. Biden quit his position as Senator to be with his kids who were injured in a car wreck (his wife and daughter died), McCain ditched his wife after she was in a car wreck. Biden goes home to his family after work, McCain can’t remember which house his family is staying at.
Wow Mom, you’re just all over the place aren’t you?
There are approximately 1.3 million abortions per year in the U.S. How’s that compare to children in Iraq?
I mean, you Libs don’t even consider fetus children, yet you make a comparison. Guilty conscious?
I detect mindless, arm flailing mom, you need to up your dose.
Mr_Kia
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:37 pm | Permalink
mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink
Approval ratings are a gauge as to how someone is doing on their job.
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That’s comedy too.
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You’re the one that brought this up, not me.
Maggotpunk
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:45 pm | Permalink
Biden is a great contrast with McCain. Biden has a net worth of $150k, McCain is worth over $100 million. Biden quit his position as Senator to be with his kids who were injured in a car wreck (his wife and daughter died), McCain ditched his wife after she was in a car wreck. Biden goes home to his family after work, McCain can’t remember which house his family is staying at.
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McCain isn’t the greatest thing since sliced bread by any means.
Biden however was in Senate enjoy the life while McCain was finishing his last days as a POW.
McCain married well is where the wealth comes from. Big deal.
But both are politics as usual.
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mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:45 pm | Permalink
pssst…Mom,
Bush is not running for office
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Pssst….did you miss the part where McCain stated he will continue Bush’s policies?
What part of continue do you not understand?
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Psst…Mom
Stop reading Lib websites for your news.
Bush is not running for office.
If you want to see McCain’s positions on issues, how about going to his Website instead of all this arm flailing you’re doing.
“McCain’s surprise pick for veep
417 posts.” — Grobnik
Sort of like when Bush nominated Harriet Meier to the Supreme Court?
Thanx to farm gal. See, everything does have a purpose.
Oh poor Kia, are the Republicans going to use the POW excuse as often as Bush used the 9/11 excuse? You do realize the entire concept of being a good soldier is to not get caught, right? Capturing ‘five plane’ McCain probably saved a lot of American lives given his track record. I’m sure Biden would have traded some time in a cushy prison instead of having half of his family die in a car wreck.
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beber
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink
“McCain’s surprise pick for veep
417 posts.” — Grobnik
Sort of like when Bush nominated Harriet Meier to the Supreme Court?
Thanx to farm gal. See, everything does have a purpose.
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Lose Harriet Myer, gain a Chief Supreme Court Justice.
Looks to be a fair trade to me. :)
Regular
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:48 pm | Permalink
Wow Mom, you’re just all over the place aren’t you?
There are approximately 1.3 million abortions per year in the U.S. How’s that compare to children in Iraq?
I mean, you Libs don’t even consider fetus children, yet you make a comparison. Guilty conscious?
I detect mindless, arm flailing mom, you need to up your dose.
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Hey, a true pro-lifer does not measure by how many. EACH life is precious. Just because we kill less innocent children in Iraq you think your God is going to forgive you for promoting the war?
I personally don’t like abortions but I am not in the position to judge a woman to make that choice. Besides, do you really think abortions were not performed before Roe vs Wade or that abortions will be stopped if Roe vs Wade is overturned? Not likely – abortion has been around for alot of years.
As for being all over the place, maybe you don’t like it because this woman is not a one-issue person and maybe because I am not in the kitchen baking those cookies? Or is it because I won’t back down from you? My opinion is my right to have and there are more people like me than there are people like you.
How clever of you for your upping the dose comment. Did you think of that one all by yourself or did you need help?
That’s what you get for looking up stuff on Winger sites, Christimwrongalot.
palin is being investigated in alaska on possible abuse of power. another corrupt republican?
If you want to see McCain’s positions on issues, how about going to his Website instead of all this arm flailing you’re doing.
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No matter what McCain web site says, he is Karl Rove’s puppet now and McCain himself has stated he will continue Bush’s policies. Again, do you not understand the word ‘continue’.
Besides, McCain has flip-flopped so many times, who knows what he thinks. I used to respect McCain but not after he sold his soul to get the nomination this year.
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mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:57 pm | Permalink
As for being all over the place, maybe you don’t like it because this woman is not a one-issue person and maybe because I am not in the kitchen baking those cookies? Or is it because I won’t back down from you?
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No, it’s because you’re throwing everything in but the kitchen sink in this topic. The topic header is not about abortion, Bush and etc.
It’s about McCain’s new vice president pick.
You’re failure to concentrate most likely stems from early childhood training.
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mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 6:02 pm | Permalink
If you want to see McCain’s positions on issues, how about going to his Website instead of all this arm flailing you’re doing.
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No matter what McCain web site says, he is Karl Rove’s puppet now and McCain himself has stated he will continue Bush’s policies. Again, do you not understand the word ‘continue’.
Besides, McCain has flip-flopped so many times, who knows what he thinks. I used to respect McCain but not after he sold his soul to get the nomination this year.
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pssst…Mom
Karl Rove works for Fox News now. He is not a consultant to the McCain campaign.
As I said before, stop visiting your ‘tin foil hat’ Liberal Websites and try to concentrate on gathering the truth, instead of that garbage the Lib Web sites force feed it’s mindless viewers.
All of the partisan hack namecalling and grotesque statements aside…use your frontal lobes here for a moment.
If you are on an the fence moderate, which way would you be swung by the VP choices?
Could very well be the key to the election.
pssst…Mom
Karl Rove works for Fox News now. He is not a consultant to the McCain campaign.
As I said before, stop visiting your ‘tin foil hat’ Liberal Websites and try to concentrate on gathering the truth, instead of that garbage the Lib Web sites force feed it’s mindless viewers
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Karl Rove is working the McCain campaign and one can tell by the nastiness and fear attack ads that have been coming out of the McCain camp for the past month.
And you should talk about gathering the truth if you watch Fox News. Physician, heal thyself.
This has been fun yanking your short leash to the Republican party but I really do need to leave now. Don’t think I am running away from you or backing down, because it has nothing to do with you. I have a life outside of a blog – perhaps you should consider getting a life also?
Reguliar sure is psssting all over the place…too much morphine makes him incontinent.
A little bulying from Rossell? Gee Paul, how about telling us about any connections you have with Godarchy and their LIBEL against me in 1994?
Franklin
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:22 pm | Permalink
Maggot
I expect a retraction.
BJ likes to say stuff like you just posted, but BJ has no money, and beating him in court would be useless.
I would win, but he could not even pay court costs.
You, on the other hand? Well, check your bank account and check with your lawyer.
Again, I expect a retraction. I was never charged, in ANY criminal court, with what you claim.
Retract this, or I will consider my options:
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“Maggotpunk
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:00 pm | Permalink
Paul shouldn’t be criticizing anyone for having terrorist connections given his connection to the terrorist, criminal organization Operation Rescue and his penchant for throwing children under vehicles.”
Maggotpunk
Posted August 29, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
Biden would have traded some time in a cushy prison instead of having half of his family die in a car wreck.
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Biden’s family dying in a car accident is tragic. Sadly it happens everyday.
Calling 5 years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam a cushy prison shows how completely blinded by your hate of the Republican party you are. Nothing is out of bounds to some of you.
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mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 6:10 pm | Permalink
pssst…Mom
Karl Rove works for Fox News now. He is not a consultant to the McCain campaign.
As I said before, stop visiting your ‘tin foil hat’ Liberal Websites and try to concentrate on gathering the truth, instead of that garbage the Lib Web sites force feed it’s mindless viewers
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Karl Rove is working the McCain campaign and one can tell by the nastiness and fear attack ads that have been coming out of the McCain camp for the past month.
And you should talk about gathering the truth if you watch Fox News. Physician, heal thyself.
This has been fun yanking your short leash to the Republican party but I really do need to leave now. Don’t think I am running away from you or backing down, because it has nothing to do with you. I have a life outside of a blog – perhaps you should consider getting a life also?
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I used to think you had a modicum of sense, however, your mindless posting and arm flailing today has removed that notion from my mind.
mom
Posted August 29, 2008 at 6:10 pm | Permalink
Don’t think I am running away from you or backing down, because it has nothing to do with you. I have a life outside of a blog – perhaps you should consider getting a life also?
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Enjoy your evening Mom.
I am off to what many of you would consider a Hitler Rally as well (bible study).
:-)
MCCAIN = BUSH
ONLY DUMBER
From what I can tell Sarah Palin is a wonderful family person. Her love for her youngest is testimony to her stature. However, does that make her ready for the office?
Does anybody know the record for most posts on a single thread on WEBlog? This ones gotta be getting close.
“Chrisfrommactown” comes up with –
“I’ll respond to you MH. Are you trying to say that after eight years of claiming that Dick Cheney is the real president, you now think that a McCain Presidency will shove the Vice Presidency back to the traditional role of attending foreign funerals in the place of the President?”
Uhm, no.
I said nothing of the sort.
If you’re going to “respond” it might be helpful for you to address what I wrote instead of stuff you make up.
“Face it dude. Your side got kicked in the nuts again. Somehow or another, the leakiest organization in the World, (with the possible exception of Patrick Leahy) managed to keep this one secret. How they did it i do not know. That they did it has turned out to be a master stroke.”
You probably shouldn’t blithely throw around the word “stroke” when your candidate is 72-years-old, either.
;^)
No === McCain has an affinity for models surprised whe wasn’t blonde too …. wonder what Cindy is thinking another boob lift ?
Wow. 500 comments
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Monkeyhawk
Posted August 29, 2008 at 6:23 pm | Permalink
“Chrisfrommactown” comes up with –
“I’ll respond to you MH. Are you trying to say that after eight years of claiming that Dick Cheney is the real president, you now think that a McCain Presidency will shove the Vice Presidency back to the traditional role of attending foreign funerals in the place of the President?”
Uhm, no.
I said nothing of the sort.
If you’re going to “respond” it might be helpful for you to address what I wrote instead of stuff you make up.
“Face it dude. Your side got kicked in the nuts again. Somehow or another, the leakiest organization in the World, (with the possible exception of Patrick Leahy) managed to keep this one secret. How they did it i do not know. That they did it has turned out to be a master stroke.”
You probably shouldn’t blithely throw around the word “stroke” when your candidate is 72-years-old, either.
;^)
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Age bias eh?
My Dad and I were cutting down trees today. I was doing what I could. My Dad, at 81 years of age was doing the cutting. Climbing, sawing and all that tree trimming stuff. Knocked down a twenty five foot topper section today, will finish up the rest tomorrow.
Not everyone is soft and out of shape like yourself MonkeyHock.
I think the reason it was kept secret is that mccain didn’t know until this morning who’d accept.
“Regular” chimes in with typical name-calling –
“Not everyone is soft and out of shape like yourself MonkeyHock.”
Probably not.
But you are, apparently, what with your 81-year-old father doing all the work today.
McShame wasn’t told who it was until he needed to know (he’d have forgotten anyway if they told him the day before).
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Monkeyhawk
Posted August 29, 2008 at 6:37 pm | Permalink
“Regular” chimes in with typical name-calling –
“Not everyone is soft and out of shape like yourself MonkeyHock.”
Probably not.
But you are, apparently, what with your 81-year-old father doing all the work today.
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No, I split wood and stacked. Have to be careful and move slow as I have a damaged spine, don’t walk well and can’t really bend over much. But, I managed to do what I can do.
KIA, I would think one with your nic would resent all those pilots kia because of songbird.
RNC- Featuring- “The Beauty and The Beast”
Been fun ridiculing the repubs selection for v.p. (didn’t take them long to fall in line this time), but other things to do.
Bet there are some killer jokes on late nite.
In a way I am reminded of Geraldine Ferraro (sp?). I am somewhat of a political junkie. I am at least somewhat familiar with many political figures from reading over the years. I had never heard of Ferraro before she was chosen for the VP slot. The same is true with Palin.
BTW – 4 years ago I had never heard of Barack Obama either.
the record I believe belongs to a terry fox thread. Some 800 posts?
Obama got an 8 point convention “bounce.”
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/barack_obamas_8point_conventio.html
Now, will we see a “Palin bounce”? And in which direction?
This is a STELLAR pick for VP.
(I said about two months ago on this board that I hoped she’d be the nominee)
I’m very excited at the prospect of hearing her speak at the convention. Ooooooh this is getting exciting!!!
the record I believe belongs to a terry fox thread. Some 800 posts?
About that. I don’t think it broke 800 but it was close. Could be wrong.
This appointment has got to be the most insulting decision from the McSame camp yet for women. Not only is she anti-women in every way she votes- but she can’t even perform the duties bestowed her. She hasn’t a lick of experience…do you REALLY want this woman running the nation?
Since she’s anti-birth control- what that means is that if John McSame passes away- which isn’t that far off from likely at all- then she would be left in charge with the fate of our nation. She’s cronyism and corruption personified. She surely should never had even considered the job if she was thinking about the fate of the nation.
Electing a woman isn’t about electing any women. It is about electing a woman who believes that all women should share equally in the dream of America. She’s anti- birth control- which hey, I’m all for the mother who can do it all- but it doesn’t count if you’re not being a mother.
I swear it is like McSame picked a woman who would be eye candy- someone pretty to look at instead of having to listen to. Talk about the height of insult. At least a woman with some real qualifications would have been impressive.
I do feel insulted that he would even think that any woman would pull the women.
I’m even more disturbed at the Obama camp now for not considering Hillary. But it has solidified my vote for him. There is NO WAY I can let that woman represent me in the White House. can you imagine her as commander in Chief? Please.
You all should be ashamed of being republicans today.
The only reason that Obama picked Joe Biden was that Heidi Klum isn’t a native American and therefore ineligible for VP.
Had to come back to report that on her first day out the Reformeress has been caught in a lie. She was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. And, in fact said Alaska infrastructure needed to be built while their congress people (Ted Stevens) was in a position to make it happen.
She Lied, but at least no one died.
Sounds like Golfnut’s already bought his liver.
pmom, don’t believe what the Repugs say. Hillary was considered very carefully for VP and a mutual decision was reached for the benefit of everyone.
“But it has solidified my vote for him”
Oops. Pee, you’ve already stated that Osama wouldn’t get your vote if he didn’t select Hill.
Guess what? He didn’t.
Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:42 pm | Permalink
This appointment has got to be the most insulting decision from the McSame camp yet for women. Not only is she anti-women in every way she votes- but she can’t even perform the duties bestowed her. She hasn’t a lick of experience…do you REALLY want this woman running the nation?
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I bet she makes more than $7/hour? :D
Anti-women? Five children, husband, hunts, fishes, legislates, governs and fights corruption even if it means kicking fellow Republicans in the gonads.
Doesn’t have a lick of experience? When is the last time you were a governor?
Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:42 pm | Permalink
Electing a woman isn’t about electing any women.
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But electing Obama is all about electing a black man.
Historic.
Erasing white guilt.
Why else vote for him?
Mccain’s mate former beauty queen, Mccain’s running mate former beauty queen. Is mccain talking to the Donald to get candidates for other admin. positions he might need to fill?
Her mayorship was over a town of 9000 residents. Can she even balance a checkbook?
Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:42 pm | Permalink
I swear it is like McSame picked a woman who would be eye candy- someone pretty to look at instead of having to listen to.
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Should have picked an ugly woman like Hillary or an ugly guy like Obama.
Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 7:42 pm | Permalink
I do feel insulted that he would even think that any woman would pull the women.
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Kinky. Now you sound like Farmgirl.
Listen to the personal attacks by the Left-wingnuts here!
Can’t y’all just disagree with her on the issues?
-You’d have to come out against the 2nd Amendment.
-You’d have to come out against limited Government, less spending and lower taxes.
-You’d have to come out against family values.
-You’d have to come out against fishing & hunting.
-You’d have to come out against energy independence.
-You’d have to come out against life.
Just carry-on. Attack Governor Palin personally, make fun of her hair and her looks.
Pleefer
Posted August 29, 2008 at 3:49 pm | Permalink
I wonder if she sat on the casting couch…
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Yup, you Libs think the only way a woman can get ahead is to give some.
Says a lot about y’all.
500 comments from 10 people, counting 250 from Max Grobnik isn’t indicitive of much of anything.
“Anti-women? Five children, husband, hunts, fishes, legislates, governs and fights corruption even if it means kicking fellow Republicans in the gonads.
Doesn’t have a lick of experience? When is the last time you were a governor?”
Excellent points Regular, simply excellent points briefly stated.
This is a REAL WOMAN who knows exactly what she wants and who she is and is unafraid to go after it. She has both…pardon the expression ‘brains and balls’, balls in the political since, and yet is feminine and a carrying mother.
And P_mama’s remarks about her being anti-birth control, what does that mean? Because she doesn’t believe in killing defenseless babies? Because she knows their lives have value? Because she CHOSE to let her Downs baby live and to love and care for it. I can’t even go on, it frustrates me so much with your pro-death, me is everything, attitude P_moma.
She has so much more ‘experience’ in administrative management than Obamanation has it is laughable for you to comment on her lack of that. She had managed a town, a state, a family, and Obama has done what….sat on his ass and voted ‘Present’ much of the time and managed NOTHING!
“At least a woman with some real qualifications would have been impressive.”
Doesn’t being in a beauty contest qualify her for vice prez? Apparently the repubs think so…how stupid can they be? I guess now we know.
It doesn’t get more stupid and transparent than this, more evidence that McCain thinks like a typical politician.
The Hypocracy! Dems nominate a man for President because of the way he looks.
When the Republicans nominate an attractive woman, then that’s a sham?
Does Palin have enough experience to be President? I couldn’t believe how quickly that question came out of the mouths of the Obama followers. Suddenly the left thinks that experience matters. The left is so in love with the Obama candidacy that they don’t even think it necessary to think before they speak anymore. My first thought was it was like the pot calling the kettle black, but then I would be called a racist, wacko, right wing nut job. The truth is I don’t want McCain to be president either. I haven’t decided what I am going to do when I get into the voting booth, but for the Obama people and the media to argue with a straight face that Palin doesn’t have enough experience to be VP, but Obama has enough to be President, is not just unfair, but defies logic. Most of the people that are backing Obama remind me of a phrase that Allen Greenspan used to describe behavior on the stock market. That phrase is “IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE”. When you actually put them side by side, and compare, like at the Saddle Back Church, Obama’s smooth talking style loses much of it’s effectiveness. You find yourself thinking, what he said sounded pretty good, but he didn’t really say anything (which is an ability all good politicians must have). I have to admit, Obama is one of the best speakers I have heard in my life time, but if that made a great leader, we could just draw from the great pool of infomercial speakers. Just some rambling thoughts I had to get off my chest.
Just a quick question…
Did anyone notice that Cindy McCain walked out today without a cast on her right arm, but when they were leaving, she had it on?
Was she afraid that one of the “little” people might want to touch her?
Just an observation.
“Yup, you Libs think the only way a woman can get ahead is to give some.”
McCain is a fool and so are you. People like you are exactly why he won’t get elected now…too many men who despise and resent women out there and can never picture them as a the leader of the free world.
I guess we should be grateful, really.
Ha! When I saw her bright pink cast…I just figured McCain had been beating on her…he certainly can’t love a woman he refers to as a c**t.
I have a question about that broken wrist of Cindy McCain’s. Just who and how did some over-zealous constituent break her wrist? Does she have a problem with brittle bones or was it caused by something else?
Birth Control is not an abortion- but being anti- birth control sure is pro- abortion. I shows she has no freaking clue as to the needs of down to earth women.
This is so disturbing to me on so many levels. How seriously can she even be considered. I find this appointment to be even more sexist than I could have ever imagined. That women will just bow down- aint going to happen.
He could have just picked Paris Hilton- would have been just equal.
Does make one wonder, doesn’t it, Mary?
Predestined
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:25 pm | Permalink
I have a question about that broken wrist of Cindy McCain’s. Just who and how did some over-zealous constituent break her wrist? Does she have a problem with brittle bones or was it caused by something else?
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I didn’t see it, but I did notice that Obama’s left shoelace was untied. Was that code for something?
A down to earth woman, like Michelle Obama?
Nancy Pelosi?
P_mama,
It’s the tranparency of the choice and the reason that makes me laugh…or scratch my head…or whatever.
We’ve got 2 guys here saying they said weeks ago that they mentioned her. Maybe I missed it. Very possible, in fact. But until today, I never heard anything about her being a possible. A couple of months ago I saw something about her and can’t remember what it was, and I did a little looking for info. It may have been mentioned somewhere because she’s a woman gov like our own, but there was nothing in that article about her name being on a list, long or short, for consideration for the VP slot.
The Obama followers are kinda like Lemmings. One Lemming asks the other,……… where are we going? And the other says,…. I don’t know, but we are all together, and we are making really good time.
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Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:26 pm | Permalink
Birth Control is not an abortion- but being anti- birth control sure is pro- abortion. I shows she has no freaking clue as to the needs of down to earth women.
This is so disturbing to me on so many levels. How seriously can she even be considered. I find this appointment to be even more sexist than I could have ever imagined. That women will just bow down- aint going to happen.
He could have just picked Paris Hilton- would have been just equal.
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Appears to me to be the epitome of what defines a woman.
She has five children, a husband, is governor of a state, is feminine, a feminist and knows exactly what she wants to do in life without hesitation.
Let’s compare that to the large consort of constantly whining Liberal women around the nation, classic under achievers, low self esteem and generally jealous of anyone who manages to maintain a figure and an intellect at the same time.
Governor Palin is showing all the Liberal women what it takes to be a real women, a feminist who champions values and one who walks the talk.
You Lib women, better shape up with your slovenly whining ways, you have seen the standard today and you have fallen way, way short.
Could it be that the Pukes just don’t give a damn about the election?
You’re reaching, Max. It isn’t becoming.
Where do you get that she’s a feminist?
And just what IS a feminist? Are they still burning bras?
Mary_Caruso
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:25 pm | Permalink
Ha! When I saw her bright pink cast…I just figured McCain had been beating on her…
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Totally and completely made-up LIE.
Down to “arth” womin
Has five kids
A mongloid baby
Is the Governor of A.K.
Rides a snowmobile
And eats mooseburgers.
W-o-o-o-0-0-0-0-o-o-
Joined the NRA
When she was a babe
You can find her
On the range
But she ain’t cookin’
N-o-o-o-0-0-0-o-o
Let’s compare that to the large consort of constantly whining Liberal women around the nation, classic under achievers, low self esteem and generally jealous of anyone who manages to maintain a figure and an intellect at the same time.
Or…
Let’s compare that to the large consort of constantly cowering Conservative women around the nation, classic yes-women, low self esteem because the only thing they know is baking cookies and carrying slippers to their hubby, who gave up getting an education because their guy wanted them home, lost their figure years ago bearing and giving birth to children, and now watch as that hubby is out chasing skirts and sleeping around, because, well, they just aren’t happy.
Totally and completely made-up LIE.
Prove it.
Harriet Meier, Harriet Meier, Harriet Meier, Harriet Meier, Harriet Meier, Harriet Meier, Harriet Meier, Harriet Meier, Haw haw haw.
“A significant part of Palin’s base of support lies among social and Christian conservatives. Her positions on social issues emerged slowly during the campaign: on abortion (should be banned for anything other than saving the life of the mother), stem cell research (opposed), physician-assisted suicide (opposed), creationism (should be discussed in schools), state health benefits for same-sex partners (opposed, and supports a constitutional amendment to bar them).”
And earlier that year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that Palin said the following about creationism at a debate:
“Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information….Healthy debate is so important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject — creationism and evolution. It’s been a healthy foundation for me. But don’t be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides.”
Now tell me, doesn’t that scare you just a little?
Much of the ‘criticism’ of Sarah Palin is about her lack of experience, yet she has far more executive administrative experience than Obama. She has quite successfully managed a family, no small job with 5 children, a town, and then a state, simultaneously. She has successfully bucked the established good ol boy political structure of Alaska, a tremendous feat in itself. She is a strong individual, yet a loving wife and mother, is that what the DemLibs hate?
I would think the DemLib women would be praising her, but no. They revile her, why?
Because she is attractive, unlike many of the women they promote, and probably are themselves? Because she is pro-life and chose to allow her youngest child to live though a Down syndrome baby? Because she manages a family and a very successful and challenging career?
Is it jealousy, is it something deeper?
Predestined
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:34 pm | Permalink
Where do you get that she’s a feminist?
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Palin is a prominent member of Feminists for Life.
Feminists for Life of America (FFL) is the largest and most visible pro-life feminist organization. Established in 1972 and now based in Alexandria, Virginia, the organization describes itself as “shaped by the core feminist values of justice, nondiscrimination, and nonviolence.”[2] FFL asserts they continue the tradition of early American feminists such as Susan B. Anthony, who opposed abortion.[3] FFL is a non-profit dedicated to “systematically eliminating the root causes that drive women to abortion — primarily lack of practical resources and support — through holistic, woman-centered solutions.”[4]
Feminists for Life maintains that being pro-life is compatible with feminism, and, further, that it is the natural conclusion of feminist values. Members and supporters of the organization claim that being a pro-life feminist is not an oxymoron.
It appears Mary Caruso, that other women know how to define what feminism is, other than what the ridiculous caricature of what Libs have made feminism to become.
They type of feminist what Palin represents, actually has consistent values and values are tied directly to a loving caring family.
In contrast to to radical feminism which is anti-family, anti-life and anti-anything or anybody that disagrees with them.
Palin is a mature feminist, not one of the massive number of Liberal whiners who have become slaves to their own self-defeating rhetoric.
By the way, Obama’s experience to be President consists of voting ‘Present’ on many, many votes.
Some great experience….NOT!
If you don’t get hung up on a literal six day creation, Genesis and Darwin’s theory are compatible. Who is to say God didn’t create it all in 6 billion years, and rested on the 7th billion.
oops, copy and pasted the above from the other topic, and should be addressed to predestined not mentioning Mary Caruso. Sorry Mary.
Palin has at least been in charge of running something. Obama has never been in charge of a boy scout troop as far as I know.
Mary_Caruso,
Are you CRAZY? No that doesn’t scare me. To present all view points and let people decide.
What are you for, dictating what people should be exposed to?
Mary….you disappoint me, you are what is frighting.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=152453
your proof. Now STFU about it.
If you don’t get hung up on a literal six day creation, Genesis and Darwin’s theory are compatible. Who is to say God didn’t create it all in 6 billion years, and rested on the 7th billion.
And your point would be? That hardly justifies teaching religion alongside science, as if they were the same thing.
Prove your own lies Destiny.
The assertion was made by Mary that McCain beat his wife.
The burden of proof is on Mary.
‘frightening’ not ‘frighting’
Yeah Max and Box, where is your belief that women should be at home? There to serve her husband?
She has nothing in common with me. She is not a feminist. Do you think that we aren’t doing? What?
I HAD to give up my job to care for my disabled child. I HAVE been paid less because of my sex. I HAVE been told by an employer that ‘my’ place was not in the workplace. I DO care for my children juggling work, caring for elderly and sick family, and trying to put food on the table while volunteering my time for advocacy and other things. THose things don’t get you elected to a national seat. I’m most women. Struggling- spinning my wheels it feels. My promotion comes in about 3 weeks, where I will be working 40 PLUS hours a week again. I KNOW what it is like to put family first. I wish I had the ability to hire a nanny to raise my kids for me like Sarah Palin. How much hard work is she doing? Not one bit.
Look at Hillary’s history and Obama’s history in comparison. You see them involved in community before they were elected. You see them in pictures out there. The right wingers go the route of being elected to school boards so they can tell others what to do. The right wingers never get in the trenches with the real people.
“Palin has at least been in charge of running something” — None
Snowmobile sales will certainly save the country.
Vigorous handshaking. Oh dear.
I’d hate to see what would have happened if she was putting up drywall or something.
Creation is a view believed and taught by many, so just to ignore it, would be a disservice to our children, both those brought up Christian, and those not.
The woman served on a city council of a small town for several years, as mayor for a few. Has been governor of Alaska 19 months.
That’s doesn’t mean she’s necessarily unqualified, but it’s not exactly a stellar resume either.
Thank’s Golfnut for proving Mary is a LIAR and Predistined is an IDIOT.
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Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:56 pm | Permalink
Vigorous handshaking. Oh dear.
I’d hate to see what would have happened if she was putting up drywall or something.
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I’ve had people torque my wrist to pain on an over exuberant handshake. If you’re not prepared for it, injury can occur.
Creation is a view believed and taught by many, so just to ignore it, would be a disservice to our children, both those brought up Christian, and those not.
Who said anything about ignoring it?
Teach science in science class, and religion in religion class. It’s that simple.
your proof. Now STFU about it.
Okay, sounds reasonable.
Now if you just had a video of it happening…
Mary you are either flat wrong or lying!
“Same-sex benefits ban gets Palin veto
Gov. Sarah Palin vetoed a bill Thursday that sought to block the state from giving public employee benefits such as health insurance to same-sex couples.
In the first veto of an administration that isn’t yet a month old, Palin said she rejected the bill despite her disagreement with a state Supreme Court order earlier this month that directed the state to offer benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.”
I don’t think she should have vetoed it, but that’s just my feeling. Point is she did because she was following the law.
Get your facts straight Mary or shut the heck up.
okie dokie problem solved
“The assertion was made by Mary that McCain beat his wife.
The burden of proof is on Mary.”
IT WAS A JOKE…but given McCain’s temperment and the way he has verbally abused his wife by calling her a “cunt” in front of others, I wouldn’t be surprised.
“Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information….Healthy debate is so important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject — creationism and evolution. It’s been a healthy foundation for me. But don’t be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides.”
Now tell me, doesn’t that scare you just a little?
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What took us so long to discover this strong, assertive, common sense woman? Is she really too good to be true?
Prove your own lies Destiny.
You know, you’re stepping over the line, Regular. I never said anything that could be construed as a lie. I asked a question as to how a handshake could cause that kind of damage. Want me to go get the post, since you didn’t bother to provide that? I was attacked for asking.
Take them at their word, for all I care. There really is no proof, either way. It could be that it was something silly and embarrassing, and she didn’t want to share it. It could be from an over-zealous handshaker. I’m sure it was painful, however it was caused. End of story.
were the other options for mc cains vp pick THAT bad?
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Cindy is a battered wife. Palin better be prepared to be dismissed often. McSame isn’t going to listen to any women. And honestly- god I hope he doesn’t listen to HER.
Political_mama
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:54 pm | Permalink
Yeah Max and Box, where is your belief that women should be at home? There to serve her husband?
She has nothing in common with me. She is not a feminist. Do you think that we aren’t doing? What?
I HAD to give up my job to care for my disabled child. I HAVE been paid less because of my sex. I HAVE been told by an employer that ‘my’ place was not in the workplace. I DO care for my children juggling work, caring for elderly and sick family, and trying to put food on the table while volunteering my time for advocacy and other things. THose things don’t get you elected to a national seat. I’m most women. Struggling- spinning my wheels it feels. My promotion comes in about 3 weeks, where I will be working 40 PLUS hours a week again. I KNOW what it is like to put family first. I wish I had the ability to hire a nanny to raise my kids for me like Sarah Palin. How much hard work is she doing? Not one bit.
Look at Hillary’s history and Obama’s history in comparison. You see them involved in community before they were elected. You see them in pictures out there. The right wingers go the route of being elected to school boards so they can tell others what to do. The right wingers never get in the trenches with the real people.
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You mean like my other sister, never gets in the trenches. Down in New Orleans, helping to rebuild churches and homes. Mother of three, grandmother of four and a successful, well paid employee at Bombardier.
This next week, she’ll be doing yeoman’s work at the Republican National Convention. Not in the spotlight, mind you, but down in the trenches as you say.
Doing what? Well, conventions need protection and monitoring, lots of police and national guard utilized in controlling and patrolling the streets. My sis will be cooking and serving those fine young people food and beverage, inspiring them to keep up the good work for their thankless jobs.
My sis is a feminist too. A church-going, hard working, college degreed, grandmother who has it going on and does what it takes to be a modern woman in a modern world. And she doesn’t whine, she just does it.
Those on the Right can say anything they want to about anybody they want. Someone on the Left makes a comment in jest, and they go ballistic.
You guys are really touchy today.
Political_mama,
Your diatribe on how hard you have it, and I am sure you have had it hard (sorry), and how Sarah Palin has it all going her way should have nothing to do with her abilities for this job. She is both a hard worker and smart.
And yes, life is not seeming fair sometimes but that is no reason to resent or hate someone else.
She is a true women in every since, a successful business women, mother, wife, political figure and on and on. A truly remarkable individual, that is no reason to resent her.
Predestined
Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:04 pm | Permalink
Prove your own lies Destiny.
You know, you’re stepping over the line, Regular. I never said anything that could be construed as a lie. I asked a question as to how a handshake could cause that kind of damage. Want me to go get the post, since you didn’t bother to provide that? I was attacked for asking.
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Put your reading glasses on, I didn’t write that.
“Mary you are either flat wrong or lying!”
I’m just posting what the Boston Globe reported about her today.
She would be hottest looking female in Washington, I’ll give her that.
Now I gotta do my Wango boy imitation:
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Palin currently being INVESTIGATED for abuse of OFFICE!!!!
She MUST be terrorist MUSLIM, and BELONGS in the SLAMMER with those despicable republican war mongers!!!
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Nope, can’t seem to sound that Republican:-)
Terry Fox thread 1 approx 1500 posts.
Terry Fox 2 nearly 1000 posts.
This one? It isn’t even in the top 10 yet. And it’s winding down.
The cons have had noting to talk about or be talked about in a very long time.
Heh people who LOVE this woman are already so blind they will not see.
Had to go help my mom with some stuff. She went for a walk and out rushes one of her con neighbors to just gush about how great this pick is and how McCain is weak and Palin will run the country behind the scenes until McCain dies. And THEN she will REALLY fix things.
My mom brought her neighbor down to talk to me.
This guy could NOT be talked to.
According to him she has 4 kids not 5. AND she is 2 years into her second term as Governor!
I tried to tell him that he was dead wrong. He just kept saying, “You’re a damned liberal liar and you’re afraid of a good Christian woman!”
I uh…don’t think this guy will be talking politics with mom again soon! He’s probably in right now on some fundo website reading how cute Sarah can walk on water or some such.
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Mary_Caruso
Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:09 pm | Permalink
“Mary you are either flat wrong or lying!”
I’m just posting what the Boston Globe reported about her today.
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For someone being sanctimonious about that “C” word and keep repeating it, you are just as bad as anyone who has actually said in anger, by repeating non-verified allegations.
I find that just as detestable as those accused of saying it.
Join the detested Mary, you have just lowered your standards, you are welcome to your new world of sloth and impropriety.
“She is a true women in every since, a successful business women, mother, wife, political figure and on and on. A truly remarkable individual, that is no reason to resent her.”
I resent her for being against gay rights and thinking that creationism should be taught in the public schools along side science.
If she is truly against birth control, I’d resent her for that too.
I don’t think we need an fundamentalist evangelical Christian as VP.
P.M. Jesus. McCain is too weak to batter Cindy.
Cya pfeefer,
Thanks for the meltdown lesson.
“I resent her for being against gay rights and thinking that creationism should be taught in the public schools along side science.
If she is truly against birth control, I’d resent her for that too.
I don’t think we need an fundamentalist evangelical Christian as VP.”
First of all most of what you said is not accurate. And second,
Sorry Mary, you are going to lose on that one again.
You’re wrong Reg…McCain did call his wife that in front of witnesses when he lost his temper one time…I can’t imagine what he says to her in private. He’s known for his hot head and bad temper, he’d be a poor leader. We’ve seen the catastrophic results of a leader who acts before he thinks and allows his “gut” to tell him what to do. We don’t need 8 years more of the same BS.
Does Palin have enough experience to be President? I couldn’t believe how quickly that question came out of the mouths of the Obama followers.
Hey, we’ve got some good teachers here on WEBlog that showed us how it’s done. ;)
Listen to that, Mary resents her, hates her she means, because she has beliefs different then hers!
That’s why those Jews had to be killed, they were different.
Pleefer,
Damn boy….you have completely melted down.
You lose!
Box, so the Boston Globe just published all those lies about her today?
Great!
Hear that! You Dems get Pleefer on your side!
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Mary_Caruso
Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:18 pm | Permalink
You’re wrong Reg…McCain did call his wife that in front of witnesses when he lost his temper one time…I can’t imagine what he says to her in private. He’s known for his hot head and bad temper, he’d be a poor leader. We’ve seen the catastrophic results of a leader who acts before he thinks and allows his “gut” to tell him what to do. We don’t need 8 years more of the same BS.
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How can I be wrong about an “alleged” story from third party, that “may” have happened years ago.
As I said Mary, you have dribbled yourself into sloth and impropriety. Welcome to your new world, I hope you enjoy your stay.
I love it when they put words in your mouth! Saves all that typing, ya know?
Listen to that, Max resents Obama, hates him he means, because he has beliefs different then his!
That’s why those Jews had to be killed, they were different.
Please tell me where I said I hated her? I’ll say it again…I don’t think we need a Christian fundamentalist in the White House.
I’m ouuta here..I have to get up early in the AM and I’ve wasted enough of my time here.
I love the fact that McCain picked her…he’ll lose for sure now.
HEHEHEHE
McCain/Palin
McCain just won the election today! Sarah was the perfect choice!
This is the happiest I’ve been with my party in many, many years!
Hear that! You Dems get Pleefer on your side!
Heh. Hardly. Pleef is on his own side (and yes, I know what “classical liberal” is, in theory, though people like Robert Bork have been known to (ab)use the term).
What exactly caused Pleef’s meltdown I don’t know. Other than he was hoping to pull the republican party back to moderate and saw finally that it’ll never happen.
HLP
Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:25 pm | Permalink
HEHEHEHE
McCain/Palin
McCain just won the election today! Sarah was the perfect choice!
This is the happiest I’ve been with my party in many, many years!
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Really old man price? The election already occurred?
Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
A senile old man with political novice………yep, they have the election ALL sewn up.
nitwit
Cya pfeefer,
Thanks for the meltdown lesson.
You sure didn’t need one there James now did you?
Posts about strangling from you yesterday?
Seeing yourself as btk?
I’m thinking this little star of theirs is riding for a fall.
One MINUTE into her being chosen and she’s busted in a lie about the “bridge to nowhere”?
Dig dig dig. This is one dangerous bit of con history they are trying to put into office. She must be squashed like the dangerous insect that she is.
Kook.
……..forgot the article “a”, as in “a political novice
I was laughing too hard!
Mary_Caruso Posted August 29, 2008 at 9:20 pm |
“Box, so the Boston Globe just published all those lies about her today?
Well Mary it appears so, for heavens sake can’t you Google it yourself.
Here is what came off a gay website, I figured if I use that one you might get it through your head.
Alaska governor vetoes bill banning equal partner benefits
http://seaqwa.com/blogs/qnews/archive/2008/08/29/palin-s-reluctant-pro-gay-veto.aspx
Alaska’s new governor, Sarah Palin, today vetoed a bill that would have denied equality of benefits to the same-sex partners of state workers. The issue of partner benefits for state workers has been a contentious one in Alaska since the state’s highest court ruled in October 2005 that denying benefits to same-sex domestic partners violated the equal protection guarantees in the state’s constitution.
And another:
Quote “Gov. Sarah Palin vetoed a bill Thursday
Sarah Palin’s veto gave gays the same rights as married couples in Alaska. that sought to block the state from giving public employee benefits such as health insurance to same-sex couples.”
http://www.sarahpalingayrights.com/
I don’t agree with her veto, and she doesn’t think it right either but she followed the law.
Got it???
Mary_Caruso
Posted August 29, 2008 at 8:45 pm | Permalink
“Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information….Healthy debate is so important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject — creationism and evolution. It’s been a healthy foundation for me. But don’t be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides.”
Now tell me, doesn’t that scare you just a little?
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Is this tongue in cheek? Why on earth would that be scary?
Well, Randy, (you don’t mind if I call you randy do you?)
You should have seen the video of Obama today, he looked like a deer caught in headlights when they asked him about Sarah.
His handlers don’t know what to put on his teleprompter yet.
old man price, LOL
Age is a state of mind, not just years. I bet I’m in a lot better physical shape than you are in. But keep your little self delusion going, if it helps you get through the night!
What the hell are you babbling on about old man?
Has mcsame’s senility spread to all reichwingers?
Oh Hank, that was so Mousley of you.
(chortles)
………..do you have something to share BTK advocate/mccluer?
Got any extra rope ApeOffice?
Have you heard Obama’s comments today, Randy? He’s standing beside Joe, I’ve-been-in-the-Senate-since-Sarah-was-in-the-third-grade, Biden and he said of Palin’s selection, “Just more of the same,”
Are you Marxists middle aged school teachers all so dense, or are you merely a bitter aberation?
HEHEHEHE
Hey Regular,
I guess I’m not the only one that spent 10 minutes on GOOGLE getting the ‘great one’s’ personal information!
I wonder if BOXLOCK has the info yet?
………………..does anyone with any common sense in their heads have any idea what little jimmy mccluer is going off about?
It must be the mold count in his sister’s basement.
Hey Hank!
Ever been to Eskimo Joes! It’s lots of fun and has really neat pictures of middle aged guys!
You should check it out!
http://www.eskimojoes.com/photos/index.php?start=8
(chortles)
Just ‘google’ “ignorant arrogant Wichita science teacher” and there’s only one hit!
Little Randy and his tubby little belly!
Do you want to kill Apophis James?
Do you want to kill me?
I laugh in your direction.
Kook.
I saw it the other day! Dumpy little fat man with a scraggly beard and mustache.
That the one?
HEHEHEHE
Oh Hank, almost forgot, you should look up in google under spaghetti and monster and flying and science teacher who had to take down a paper hung on his school door.
It appears that the principal doesn’t appreciate fine art! :D
No body wants to kill you, BlueJay. You’re too valuable as a bad example.
The thinking liberals around here just patronize you and keep you around as their little pet BLOG dog.
If any one ever took you serious with all your bluster and childish threats you would have been gone long ago.
You’re safe.
Amazing how much is out on the internet, isn’t it?
What are you telling me, Regular?
Do you mean to say that his colleagues think he is an eccentric old kook?
HEHEHE
Yea outlander,
Try and put a bullshit filter on your internet access and it keeps getting clogged up with Randys and J Rs!
Indeed Mr. Hank!
Hey! It’s gonna be a long cold winter.
You sure I can’t lease some of your dogs to keep me warm at night?
There might be one of those “Three Dog Nights!”
You can have Buster and Trouble for the really cold nights if you must. Buster is a good dog but he shits too close to the house!
I just watched her speech from earlier today – WOW! This woman is a PERFECT pick!
Well your buddy Regular was making BTK like threats on the blog just yesterday there Hank.
Ya here to throw him a bone?
He’s your little blog dog. But he’s not so different from you though is he?
In switching nics and making threats I mean?
Just where DID “American way” and “HD Chaplain” go after you were busted in them the other night?
Buster sounds like a good bed warming dog.
I’ll provide my own flea and tick powder for myself. :D
Hehehe,
Well ladies and germs,
It’s been a day, now for the night.
Oooh,
Is that the blog puppy nipping at my heals?
You’re really crazy aren’t you Jay? Why don’t you read your entries before you click on ‘Post Comment’? You are getting incoherent.
A better question, is where did the coward randall go just now?
HEHEHE
Nighty-Bye all, sweet dreams!
It is truly pathetic how mean spirited this blog is becoming. I am not sure what HLP and Regular are going about lately. It doesn’t seem like they are being very friendly. In fact, it has become down right nasty. They seem to have an obsession about a few bloggers in particular. What could have been posted previously that inspires this degree of hate?
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If her fans are any example?
Lil’ Sarah Palin will melt into a sputtering “God this and that” in a timely manner.
I’d rather not wait. Somebody throw a bucket of water on her.
Regular
Posted August 29, 2008 at 10:15 pm | Permalink
I’ll provide my own flea and tick powder for myself. :D
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So you admit your a bit*h, including being infested with fleas and ticks. Shame on you.
My money’s on Stupid.
“In what appears to be a coordinated attack, many top Democrats have savaged McCain for picking somebody who, less than two years ago, was a small-town mayor, to be next in line for the most powerful job in the world.
“Is this really who the Republican Party wants to be one heartbeat away from the presidency?” Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) asked, making sure to note that McCain turned 72 on Friday.
Indeed, Palin has emboldened Democrats to more frontally go after the longtime Arizona senator for his age, an issue on the minds of many voters with regard to McCain, according to polls.
“After his attacks on Obama’s readiness for the job, it’ll be amusing to hear a 72-year-old with a history of health problems justify this decision,” said Jim Jordan, a veteran Democratic strategist. “She’s a talent, but that’s the end of the experience message from John McCain.”
McCain plainly wanted a pick that dazzled and would be sure to shake up the race. But his out-of-the-box selection seems to dance on the razor’s edge, with disaster a distinct possibility.
Even Rollins, who praised the move, acknowledged it could be a catastrophe.
“The risk is that she just craters somewhere out there on the way,” he said. “She’s just never been in this kind of environment before.”
Another Republican cited a line from “This Is Spinal Tap”: “There is a fine line between clever and stupid.”
In the next 67 days, we’ll learn which side the Palin selection falls on.
Do you really believe that Sarah Palin understands the distinctions between Shia and Sunni, has an opinion about the future of Pakistan, the complexities of Pakistan and India, has a view of how to exploit rifts within Tehran’s leadership, knows about the tricky task of securing loose nuclear weapons? Does anyone even know if she has ever expressed a view on these matters? Can anyone direct me to any statement she has ever made about foreign policy? If you really think that this isn’t important, that somehow because she’s a sports broadcaster it doesn’t matter you are woefully mistaken.
Romney and Pawlenty are rumored to be FURIOUS!
Discussed, much talked about. Then tossed aside for this little bit of fluff.
As the choice for VP?
The Democratic convention was all about unity.
The Con vention will be well policed. Bob Barr and Ron Paul and their supporters will be kept away.
Maybe they can go visit the Larry Craig memorial wide stance airport public restroom stall.
dvdlrth,
“Do you really believe that Sarah Palin understands the distinctions between Shia and Sunni, has an opinion about the future of Pakistan, the complexities of Pakistan and India, has a view of how to exploit rifts within Tehran’s leadership, knows about the tricky task of securing loose nuclear weapons?”
Every bit as much as Obama, you idiot.
She will learn as quickly as she has in the past and preform as well as she has in the past.
Every question you raise is equally applied to Obama and I place much more confidence in a this successful women than a talking mouth like Obama.
I exagerated earlier, just heard on Mclaughin earlier the podunk town had popultaion slightly over 5000.
The people posting support for Palin, would be spitting fire if Wichita leaders took a little drive over to Towanda and hired their city manager to come over and run Wichita.
But since we’re talking about the possibility of the whole country, the above is drastically understated.
“The Con vention[sec] will be well policed. Bob Barr and Ron Paul and their supporters will be kept away.”
BlueJay,
You continue to amaze with your idiocy and stupidity.
The Dems convention was policed to the point the demonstrators could not even be seen or heard.
The Dems convention crossed the line of obstructing free speech.
Palin selection is going to draw all those single issue hillary voters (you know the ones that will only vote fora party if a woman is on the ticket).
She’ll also pull over all the ultra-conservative democratic and independent voters (bet there’s a boatload of them), other than that her selection was a non event, that primarilly drew alot of attention for its absurdity.
I can’t think of one thing that McCain has really accomplished or made a difference in because he is / was a mavweick. Oh wait he helped his EADS Lobbyists rewrite the Tanker specs in favor of Eads ….. and what ever happened to the issues that drove him out of the race on 2000 ? Did they just magically disappear
Selecting Palin only shows he could not win on his OWN record and is pandering / desperate In doing so he puts the nation at risk. He is an old phony ——-
and you anti union folks must love the fact that she brags of her die hard union member husband —
McCain couild have done much better — the other QUALIFIED female republicans probably don’t want their name associated with him —
McCain = Bush only dumber
I can’t think of one thing that McCain has really accomplished or made a difference in because he is / was a mavweick. Oh wait he helped his EADS Lobbyists rewrite the Tanker specs in favor of Eads ….. and what ever happened to the issues that drove him out of the race on 2000 ? Did they just magically disappear
Selecting Palin only shows he could not win on his OWN record and is pandering / desperate In doing so he puts the nation at risk. He is an old phony ——-
and you anti union folks must love the fact that she brags of her die hard union member husband —
McCain couild have done much better — the other QUALIFIED female republicans probably don’t want their name associated with him —
McCain = Bush only dumber
So, “Boxlock” –
I’ll ask for a third
(for Shrub’s 3rd term)(Oops. Sorry. Force of habit.) time: Name an issue where a President McC*nt might turn to a Vice-President Palin and say, “What is your considered opinion?”We’ve all seen the video clip of the GILF saying “What is that the Vice-President actually does on the job?”
And tell me how, prior to 9 o’clock this morning where anyone on the planet has ever gone on the record as thinking the GILF was qualified for being the Leader of the Free World.
Anybody.
I predicted she would be the candidate (on this blog and others) back in June. She has more executive experience than either democrat in this race.
This my friends is history! When more people watch Obama accept the nomination than watch the final episode of American Idol, it’s all over but the cryin’.Remember the old days when you used to complain about the public’s apathy? No More, No Way No Mccain!
“NEW YORK – Barack Obama’s audience for his acceptance speech likely topped 40 million people, and the Democratic gathering that nominated him was a more popular television event than any other political convention in history.
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More people watched Obama speak from a packed stadium in Denver on Thursday than watched the Olympics opening ceremony in Beijing, the final “American Idol” or the Academy Awards this year, Nielsen Media Research said Friday.
Just read a Headline “Mccain taps Alaska Governor”.
Lucky Mccain he’d been thinking about tapping her ever since he met her 6 mo.s ago!
Notice how the DemLibs can only resort to vile insinuations about the Republican team?
That’s all they’ve got, and reveals their shallow depravity.
Fear, that’s all they’ve got now is fear!
And, I love it.
As ever.
The Democrats make the progress.
And the cons claim the credit.
The Democratic party put a woman on the ticket 24 years ago.
The Democratic party had the first female nominee for President of the United States.
And the cons try to play catch up to pander.
And SO we get this little shrink wrapped import from the 1950’s saying she will USE the 18 million cracks Senator Hillary Clinton made in the glass ceiling for women….
But isn’t that what cons ALWAYS do?
Isn’t that really who they are?
They make their living off the backs of the folks who do the real work.
Then they claim the prize and the advancement of those whose work (and necks) they stand on for themselves.
This is already becoming old news. Gustav will push it aside shortly. Unless the press keeps digging or she keeps flip/flopping. My nickname for her is “Alaskan Flounder”. Wonder if she ever won the ‘Queen Crab’ Crown?
“This my friends is history! When more people watch Obama accept the nomination than watch the final episode of American Idol, it’s all over but the cryin’.”
Well what the heck else was on??? Paid advertising!
American Idol is dead, I didn’t even know it was on.
Maybe Mccain will tell her to let her hair down on the last night, now that might be a ratings booster!
“Four playoff football games, including the Super Bowl between the Giants and Patriots, were seen by more than 40 million people.)
Mccain, do not ask for whom the bells toll, they toll for thee!
I’ve got a word of encouragement for my absent friend kansasfarmgrrl that is a roundhouse punch to you boxlock.
I’m saving the word of encouragement for my friend and winding up for you.
A quick observation: the Republican talking heads on CNN are noting that Ms. Palin has executive experience (as mayor and governor) and Obama does not.
That’s true. Neither does McCain. Or Biden.
So by that logic, she is most qualified to be president of all four!
Ain’t politics grand?
Boxlock
Posted August 29, 2008 at 11:18 pm | Permalink
dvdlrth,
“Do you really believe that Sarah Palin understands the distinctions between Shia and Sunni, has an opinion about the future of Pakistan, the complexities of Pakistan and India, has a view of how to exploit rifts within Tehran’s leadership, knows about the tricky task of securing loose nuclear weapons?”
Every bit as much as Obama, you idiot.
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So NOW Boxlock finally admits that Obama is NOT a Muslim!!
All this time Boxlock has claimed that Obama knows everything about Moslems, because he IS one…. NOW he says Obama doesnst know the difference between a Sunni and a Shia…. Which is PROOF that Obama is NOT a Muslim!!!
However, Obama DOES know the difference…. which is more than McCain and his newly appointed
bimboVP candidate!!OR, Boxlock claims that Sarah Palin DOES inow the distinctions between Sunni and Shia, and that, of course, would make HER a Muslim…. Just like Boxlock claims of Obama…. ROFL
Either way, Boxlock, YOU LOSE!!! ROFLMAO!!!
“18 million cracks in the glass ceiling” — Sarah Palin.
haw haw haw.
Chas are drinking or drug’n again?
I have never said Obama is a Muslim. He certainly has Muslim ‘ties’. That’s a big difference, one you are to shallow to grasp apparently.
Obama had a Muslim father, his brother is Muslim.
Link: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-militant-muslim-brother-abongo.html
But maybe that doesn’t mean much as he has little to do with his brother living in poverty in Kenya.
If you are going to address me or attribute things to me please do so sober where you make some semblance of sense.
Officer Kotex showed up early to police the blog.
‘Mornin’ to ya Officer Kotex sir!
President Clinton said about Obama: “And in his first presidential decision, the selection of a running mate, he hit it out of the park.”
McCain’s first decision was another in a long line of inappropriate jokes.
BlueJay Posted August 30, 2008 at 12:13 am |
“I’ve got a word of encouragement for my absent friend kansasfarmgrrl that is a roundhouse punch to you boxlock.”
Hey BlueJay, please return the favor…tell the farmer that she would be well advised to study the person and life of Sarah Palin, striving to be more of a woman as she is. kfg could use a lot of that.
lindainks55
Posted August 30, 2008 at 7:58 am | Permalink
President Clinton said about Obama: “And in his first presidential decision, the selection of a running mate, he hit it out of the park.”
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A candidate running completely on a mandate of “change” picks a running mate who has been in Senate since he (Obama) was in grade school?
Someone posted that the dems don’t know the repubs and that is further pointed out in this blog. The repubs don’t have ANYTHING against a woman in the White House, just the right woman. Hillary wasn’t it.
Someone also posted early that Palin said something to the effect of “If we need a bridge, we’ll build it ourselves”. Which means we’ll do for ourselves so NO THANK YOU Big Guvment. If this is true, I like this woman.
This is what we should be hearing from Louisiana right now. No thank you Mr. President,
WE live in a state that has hurricanes
WE should know how to prepare,
WE take care of our own and ourselves,
WE are responsible for our state.
So far she sounds MORE conservative than McCain, which is what the true conservatives were after to offset McCain.
Great post and points, generaston.
Mr. President,
WE live in a state that has hurricanes
WE should know how to prepare,
WE take care of our own and ourselves,
WE are responsible for our state.
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I don’t understand those who would argue against this mentality.
The bridge probably isn’t an example you want to use. Remember that’s already been proven as one of her flip-flops.
Joe Biden supports change, and is the VP on the ticket. He actually adds by knowing much about what is, a requisite for effective change.
On the other ticket the man at the top wants to continue bush’s failed policies. Are you saying Palin doesn’t support the stated policies of the man at the top of the ticket? Or are you saying Palin will be the top of the ticket and override McCain?
Change should be a verb not a noun as it is being used in this election.
Look at Palin’s policies and record though it is limited which is the appeal and a true measure of what she will bring to the office. She has a history of bucking her party and doing what is right not popular.
You must advocate change without any knowledge of what is currently in place. Effective change usually first identified problems, options and then moves forward from there. Willy-nilly change for the sake of change isn’t effective.
Change without a plan like Obama is doing, is reckless and tends to pander to the naive.
Well, for being naive, we’ve been right about how wrong Bush was for the nation.
McSame-ImPalin’= a Bridge to NOWHERE.
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Political_mama
Posted August 30, 2008 at 8:56 am | Permalink
Well, for being naive, we’ve been right about how wrong Bush was for the nation.
McSame-ImPalin’= a Bridge to NOWHERE.
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You are so susceptible to bumper sticker politics, aren’t you? :)
lindainks55
Posted August 30, 2008 at 8:50 am | Permalink
You must advocate change without any knowledge of what is currently in place. Effective change usually first identified problems, options and then moves forward from there. Willy-nilly change for the sake of change isn’t effective.
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I don’t think you are wrong there. I don’t agree however that Change in the form of expecting the Federal Government to solve all of our problems is the answer.
we cannot have a healthy nation if our natl policies are sick kia.
“Mr_Kia,” –
Mr. President,
WE live in a state that has hurricanes
WE should know how to prepare,
WE take care of our own and ourselves,
WE are responsible for our state.
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“I don’t understand those who would argue against this mentality.”
Here’s why: Reality.
As much as some people would like to think of New Orleans as just a place of glass beads, jazz, and debauchery, it also happens to be the second-largest (and arguably the most important) port in America.
For every cocktail waitress in the French Quarter there are hundred of people loading and unloading freighters, barges, tankers, trains and trucks.
All of the veiled racist disdain you CONs spit on New Orleans ignores the fact that abandoning New Orleans (even if possible) would remove the Mississippi River from our nation’s transportation infrastructure.
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Political_mama
Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:02 am | Permalink
we cannot have a healthy nation if our natl policies are sick kia.
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Naw, you Libs are just ticked off because Bush was the decider.
And, that Bush didn’t decide to cave into turning the United States into the Socialistic States of America providing every morsel of food and free “gimme’s” for those who don’t want to work for their rewards.
“She’s going to learn national security at the foot of the master for the next four years, and most doctors think that he’ll be around at least that long,” said Charlie Black, one of Mr. McCain’s top advisers,-
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So is that supposed to be a joke? At the FOOT OF THE MASTER?????
What are we dogs now? And who says McSame is the master? he can’t even figure out what borders what and the difference between Shia and Sunni.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink
“Mr_Kia,” –
Mr. President,
WE live in a state that has hurricanes
WE should know how to prepare,
WE take care of our own and ourselves,
WE are responsible for our state.
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“I don’t understand those who would argue against this mentality.”
Here’s why: Reality.
As much as some people would like to think of New Orleans as just a place of glass beads, jazz, and debauchery, it also happens to be the second-largest (and arguably the most important) port in America.
For every cocktail waitress in the French Quarter there are hundred of people loading and unloading freighters, barges, tankers, trains and trucks.
All of the veiled racist disdain you CONs spit on New Orleans ignores the fact that abandoning New Orleans (even if possible) would remove the Mississippi River from our nation’s transportation infrastructure.
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Ah, the accusation of racism by MonkeyHock, the WE Blog’s sole abuser of the “N” word.
I don’t have any objections to New Orleans being a port city, but it should be built up properly to be a port city.
People do not need to live under sea level conditions, build flimsy homes and expect to survive hurricanes and tidal surges.
An industrial port can be built just as sturdy as oil producing platforms are in the Gulf.
People that want to work in an area, can commute in, just like people commute into Washington D.C. via rail to work.
New Orleans is a disaster waiting to happen, again. It needs to be a non-resident area and people need to move farther inland to higher ground.
It’s just common sense.
With all due respect again to Governor Palin, she’s been a governor for three years, she’s been able but undistinguished. I don’t think people could really name a big, important thing that she’s done. She was mayor of the 1005th largest town in America. And again, with all due respect to Wasilla, Alaska, it’s smaller than Salina, Kansas; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa or Gilbert, Arizona; north Las Vegas or Henderson, Nevada. It’s not a big town. So if he were to pick Governor Palin, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I’m really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States?-
Karl Rove.
Now a few words MIGHT be switched around in there….so you might want to watch the video before replying.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/vp-picks-karl-rove-swings-and-misses-big-time/
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Political_mama
Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink
With all due respect again to Governor Palin, she’s been a governor for three years, she’s been able but undistinguished. I don’t think people could really name a big, important thing that she’s done. She was mayor of the 1005th largest town in America. And again, with all due respect to Wasilla, Alaska, it’s smaller than Salina, Kansas; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa or Gilbert, Arizona; north Las Vegas or Henderson, Nevada. It’s not a big town. So if he were to pick Governor Palin, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I’m really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States?-
Karl Rove.
Now a few words MIGHT be switched around in there….so you might want to watch the video before replying.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/vp-picks-karl-rove-swings-and-misses-big-time/
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Yeah, Palin is from a very small electoral state, with just 3 electoral votes.
Of course, someone else in the election is from a very small electoral college state with just 3 electoral votes.
That would be Senator Joe Biden of Delaware. :)
You know, that Senator who voted for the war.
Biden was ‘fer’ the Iraq war until he was ‘agin’ it when it didn’t gain him favor with his Democratic cronies.
So much for standing behind principles and your vote eh? :D
“She has a history of bucking her party and doing what is right not popular.” Mr. Kia
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Her history is rather short and includes negatives and positives (like most humans, don’t you think?). Here are a couple of negatives from a rather short resume:
In 2006 she supported that “bridge to nowhere,” and is on record as saying it could be built with earmarks.
Then at her debut on the national stage she “changes” her previously stated opinion of the “bridge to nowhere.”
A bipartisan committee of the Alaskan state government voted to spend $100,000 dollars to investigate her conduct in troopergate.
This from a very slim “history.”
This isn’t a “change” I admire. Seems at best a political tool to fool someone. Political tools work becasue there are many someones who don’t pay attention. But that doesn’t add up to doing what is right not popular.
I suppose there is someone who wants the government to take care of all and everything. There is someone we could make any and all statements about. Obama and Biden are not people who want to affect that kind of change and neither are most Americans. Most of us do recognize there are problems and agree someone needs to make an assessment of what can improve and how.
If Mccain / Palin is the answer, the question must be ridiculous!
“Regular” snarks –
“You are so susceptible to bumper sticker politics, aren’t you?”
From people whose “comprehensive” energy policy is “Drill here! Drill now! Save now!” such a remark doesn’t carry a lot of intellectual weight.
As I explained to “Mr_Kia” above, you CONs get so wrapped up in the moral outrage du jour and forget the ramifications of your compartmentalized thinking.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:18 am | Permalink
“Regular” snarks –
“You are so susceptible to bumper sticker politics, aren’t you?”
From people whose “comprehensive” energy policy is “Drill here! Drill now! Save now!” such a remark doesn’t carry a lot of intellectual weight.
As I explained to “Mr_Kia” above, you CONs get so wrapped up in the moral outrage du jour and forget the ramifications of your compartmentalized thinking.
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Compartmentalized thinking indicates mental discipline and the ability to stand by your decisions.
Unlike the flip flopping Obamites, who fall blindly behind the ever changing Messiah of non-commitment.
(CNN) — John McCain needs what Kinky Friedman calls “a checkup from the neck up.”
In choosing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate, he is not thinking “outside the box,” as some have said. More like out of his mind.
Palin a first-term governor of a state with more reindeer than people, will have to put on a few pounds just to be a lightweight. Her personal story is impressive: former fisherman, mother of five. But that hardly qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
For a man who is 72 years old and has had four bouts with cancer to have chosen someone so completely unqualified to become president is shockingly irresponsible. Suddenly, McCain’s age and health become central issues in the campaign, as does his judgment.
In choosing this featherweight, McCain passed over Tom Ridge, a decorated combat hero, a Cabinet secretary and the former two-term governor of the large, complex state of Pennsylvania. iReport.com: ‘McCain pick might be a gimmick’
He passed over Mitt Romney, who ran a big state, Massachusetts; a big company, Bain Capital; and a big event, the Olympics.
He passed over Kay Bailey Hutchison, the Texas senator who is knowledgeable about the military, good on television and — obviously — a woman.
He passed over Joe Lieberman, his best friend in the Senate and fellow Iraq Kool-Aid drinker.
He passed over former congressman, trade negotiator and budget director Rob Portman.
And he also passed over Mike Huckabee, the governor of Arkansas.
For months, the McCainiacs have said they will run on his judgment and experience. In his first presidential decision, John McCain has shown that he is willing to endanger his country, potentially leaving it in the hands of someone who simply has no business being a heartbeat away from the most powerful, complicated, difficult job in human history.
If McCocaine had selected a dead rat for v.p., Republican Convention delegates would accept the nomination by acclamation. Cheer on Box Licker, Cheer on HLpless, Cheer on Craptor.
Naming cons is like naming dog; keep one around long enough, and they name themselves.
From what I’ve read Palin is Huckabee in a skirt, with less experience on all fronts.
So she is a perfect choice to pander to evangelicals who still don’t recognize that they are being used.
dogs, can’t see this morning. Yep, the ol’ eyes are a going.
“Regular” –
The GILF has been governor for 19 months. Not “three years.”
(For those of you scoring at home, “Regular” spewed his first lie of the day at 9:15 in the morning.)
Three years ago, the GILF was the non-voting Mayor of a town the size of Pratt. And John S (for Senile) McCain the Third {for Shrub’s 3rd term) thinks her experience gives her what it might take to confront Putin toe-to-toe.
CONs such as you are so enamored by your ideology you’ve lost track of reality. And when your ideology screws up you turn to party worship.
I have never used the term flip-flopper. With time comes information and that information can change one’s opinion. I wouldn’t use the term for a Dem candidate either except in the case when is a continual back and forth on the same issue.
As far as this so-called “Trooper-gate” scandal, who is going to defend a man who has threatened to kill his ex-wife remaining in a law-enforcement position? Anyone?
This Veep pick is perfect. She has a record of confronting corrupt politicians – including those of her own party.
She’s bright, witty, articulate….and good lookin.
I would not defend such a man! Aren’t there legalities in place to handle this situation? Legally.
I do believe everyone, including those elected to represent, should follow the law and conduct themselves in an ethical manner.
The very fact that this bipartisan committee is spending $100,000 to investigate her conduct tells me someone thinks she shouldn’t have interfered or influenced this situation. I tend to agree.
I also think this negates her being presented as fighting corruption. When it’s convenient and agrees with your positions doesn’t add up to anything if you turn around and participate in corruption. I think that was an abuse of power.
I’m really really sick of abuse of power!
I don’t buy it Linda. She’s gone after corruption in her own party. Don’t you think that has ruffled enough feathers to prompt a trumped up investigation? That’s how I see it and that’s the abuse of power me thinks.
“Regular” rationalizes –
“Compartmentalized thinking indicates mental discipline and the ability to stand by your decisions.”
Or it indicates bull-headed stubbornness in the face of reality confronting your simpleminded bumper-sticker CON platitudes.
wow. 700 comments.
That has to be a new record. =)
I don’t buy it Linda. She’s gone after corruption in her own party.
This is exactly the selling point we’ll see. She took on Frank Murkowski and Ted Stevens, and won. I’ll give her that.
But, from what I know about the shameless endemic corruption of Alaska politics, it was inevitable that someone–eventually–would say enough is enough. It’s not that surprising, then, that a small-town politician who hadn’t been bought yet would be the one to do it.
Whether that makes her minimally qualified to be president is rather a different question.
KSGolfnut
Posted August 30, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink
wow. 700 comments.
That has to be a new record. =)
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No kidding. If the D’s weren’t just a teeny bit skeered you think there would be such virtual arm flailing going on?
Katrina just showed the mentality of the dem leadership that has been in power so long down there. Don’t do anything for yourselves just sit back and relax and let the Guvment do it.
There’s a cat 3 hurricane coming. I’m not leaving because even if something happens to me the Guvment will take care of everything.
Do you happen to recall the scenes from Katrina. How many people were evacuated in their NIGHTGOWNS. Please tell me with a Cat 3 headed your way and you decided to stick it out, WHY would you be in your nightgown when it made landfall. Answer THE GUVMENT will take care of me.
Remember the big blizzard in Colorado, I think it was just after Katrina. The feds rushed in to take care of things and the people of Colorado said no thanks. We have blizzards here so we KNOW how to take care of ourselves. But if you have a few helicopters that can go and drop hay to our cattle, that’d be great.
I said it then that I was surprised that Hillary wasn’t standing up in congress talking about how the poor people in Colorado were suffering and all the Bush administration did was send hay to the cattle, how dare he…
I’ll take the Mayor of a small town or Governor of a small state over a politician with legislative experience only anyday.
It’s why we haven’t elected a legislator to the office of President in nearly 50 years imho.
Could be, Mr. Kia. I think they’re trying to get her deposition moved up so maybe we’ll know more sooner. I’ve read right here where some think putting her on a losing ticket was a form of pay back. Guess we will hear everything and hope somewhere along the way the truth is among what we hear.
When “executive experience” is touted and that amounts to being governor of a state with less population than the city of Austin for a period of nineteen months and she is already being investigated by her state government, I don’t think I’d be proud of that experience. One would need to admit the state of Alaska doesn’t face the challenges of most states. There would be little to that “executive experience,” even without already having to answer to corruption allegations.
There is experience to be proud of and…
Did you not see the articles about Gustav and the run on the stores to get food and water and batteries. Here we are three years after Katrina and these people STILL aren’t prepared. NOPE why should I do anything to take care of or assist myself, thats what the Guvment is for.
“wow. 700 comments.” G-nut.
That’s it, they’re starved for media attention, poor darlings. They want in the MSM so bad, their nut sacks are retracted. And now by god, they have it. Whether this was a brilliant move, or one of the dumbest picks in history is now up, to gasp, the people.
Haw, haw, haw: I get a laugh either way.
Actually the record for posts to a thread was about Terry Fox and there were over 1,500 posts.
I don’t think the attention of McCain’s choice can be attributed to much more than amazement. Most people are still scratching their heads.
I’m not so much since I’ve discovered she is Huckabee in a skirt and know who is being pandered to. When I thought this was a move to capture the woman’s vote I was astounded at the stupidity behind that thinking.
Yes Alaska is small in population but with where we are as a nation with our energy crisis Alaska is also one of our most important states.
It’s why we haven’t elected a legislator to the office of President in nearly 50 years imho.
Actually, several of those presidents (Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush I) were legislators at one time. And since we’re talking about the VP slot, well, a few examples:
Harry Truman was a Senator.
Richard Nixon was a Senator.
Lyndon Johnson was a Senator.
Walter Mondale was a Senator.
George HW Bush was a Congressman.
Al Gore was a Senator.
Dick Cheney was a Congressman (well, okay, and Defense Secretary).
So it seems that precedent has been well-established.
Speaking of acclaiming dead rats, what about McCane? You know, I do kind of like him. He’s got a sense of humor, which the selection of Palin proves. And I don’t really think he intends to be McSame but he’s too damned old to prevent it. McCane looks old and frail. He looks like just about anyone could kick the shit out of him. He’d just be another puppet, and the bullshit would continue.