“Even in confessing to preening, Edwards was preening,” Maureen Dowd wrote about John Edwards’ admission of having an affair. “His diagnosis of narcissism was weirdly narcissistic, or was it self-narcissistic?” Dowd said the creepiest part of the confession was when he stressed that he cheated on his wife when her cancer was in remission. In other words, Dowd wrote, “his infidelity was oncologically correct.”
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Give Elizabeth Edwards Lorena Bobbitt’s knife … and a pre-approved pardon. Then move on.
Edwards even Lies about Lying!
He said he ended the affair in 2006. The Enquirer caught him red handed in the Other Woman’s hotel room a couple of weeks ago!
Still, this whole incident is not really a negative for DemoRats. Some now say Edwards ratings should rise, because now it appears he is not Gay.
The Dems seem to have quite a history of womanizing presidential candidates…John Kennedy, Gary Hart, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson and now Edwards.
Quite the history to be proud of…
Being in the same room with the person does not equal the affair was still going on Max.
Dullard.
BlueJay
Posted August 11, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Permalink
Being in the same room with the person does not equal the affair was still going on Max.
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This is why BlueJay is not married.
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ANTI
Posted August 11, 2008 at 1:06 pm | Permalink
BlueJay
Posted August 11, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Permalink
Being in the same room with the person does not equal the affair was still going on Max.
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This is why BlueJay is not married.
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No doubt.
A divorce lawyer would get massive mpg out that situation.
Oh for crying out loud. You know what, going through cancer and watching a loved one IS STRESSFUL. I’m saying that stress is just one cause of an affair. There are many others. Stop judging so harshly. Oncologically correct? please. She wasn’t sick when he was dabbling but yet that doesn’t stop the right from continuing to worship Newt and McSame…both who ditched their wives for other women DURING their illnesses.
Thanks for proving the point on the Frank’s post. It is a purposeful lie rather than just being stupid.
Yes P.M., poking a woman other than your sick wife is just something people do, like breathing. Vows shouldn’t be taken seriously, they are just words. He shouldn’t be held accountable.
What is wrong with you????
“Vows shouldn’t be taken seriously, they are just words. He shouldn’t be held accountable.”
Yea, he should have just divorced his wife like Newt and Sidney did.
“Yea, he should have just divorced his wife like Newt and Sidney did”…
Instead of staying with her like Bill has?
No, he should have been loyal to his wife. If he needed a release, he should have rubbed one out, and this would have not been an issue.
I’ll reserve my outrage for when I see some over McC*nt’s abuse of women and Newt’s. And the other 1,000 republicon sex scandals.
Political C*nt,
When you can prove McCain said that word to his wife, you will see outrage from me.
Hillary Clinton would be the Democrat nominee — if the press had not protected Edwards for so long.
If this story had broken earlier, Edwards would not have taken so many votes away from Hillary Clinton.
In a world of common sense, Edwards would have to live the rest of his life in shame.
But, we’re talking about the democrat party here. He’s a hero!
Yeah Dave, you are such an example of higher morals….
How many online young women did you try to con when YOU were married?
“KSGolfnut” claims –
“In a world of common sense, Edwards would have to live the rest of his life in shame.
But, we’re talking about the democrat party here. He’s a hero!”
So who’s your hero?
Toe-tapping Larry Craig or diaper-wearing David Vitter?
when he addresses whether he said it, then I’ll stop calling him that.
Avoiding the question sounds awfully guilty to me.
Political_mama
Posted August 11, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink
when he addresses whether he said it, then I’ll stop calling him that.
Avoiding the question sounds awfully guilty to me.
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One kook asked him that question. Said kook was proven to be a complete TOOL. Are you a stupid little TOOL too, Political C*nt?
That “avoiding the question” routine brings to mind Lousiana politics a few decades ago. In a Senate race, one candidate suggested how his opponent would engage in perverted acts with animals. When cornered by the press, he admitted he knew that not to be the truth, but loved to hear his opponent deny it.
Let’s face it, pm…you wouldn’t believe a denial from McCain, and you will continue to accuse him without a denial. Don’t mind the facts, your mind is made up.
MH…I don’t believe either of those were running for PRESIDENT..were they? I would hope we at least try to hold presidential candidates to a little higher standard…Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, Gary Hart notwithstanding, that is….
“Toe-tapping Larry Craig”
I don’t think making fun of homos is helpful.
Edwards and wife are going to continue on with scheduled public appearances.
won’t be long before the r’s outrage is vented on Mrs. Edwards. Seen this pattern before.
What pattern is that, Phantom? One that is claimed to be a ‘vast right wing conspiracy’?
First they dissed Bill, then the ire turned to Hillary, because she didn’t abandon him. Accusations about power hungry, etc.
If I remember right, Phantom, the ‘turning’ on Hillary was because of her accusations of that ‘vast rightwing conspiracy’ when in fact it was the truth and she was lying about it.
Not a matter of ‘dissing’ Bill…but catching a lying, cheating philanderer who then made it worse by lying under oath. That was not a conspiracy..that was fact.
Edwards must be easily tempted, that woman wasn’t even that attractive.
Now the one Mccain’s staff ran off was a looker!
Good grief; we got bs from both sides over something both parties are guilty of. Now you know why this country has such a fascination with, and a deep fear of, sex. This is a non-issue that’s made to sell papers. Tomorrow, those same papers will be lining the bird cage, as they should be doing now.
Next, it will be Lindsey being a lesbian. Freakin’ ridiculous.
He said he ended the affair in 2006. The Enquirer caught him red handed in the Other Woman’s hotel room a couple of weeks ago!
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According to Mr. Edwards Max, he was there all night to, ahem… talk. The baby he was holding in the photo, well he didn’t know where that picture came from. Said that it looked like him but it could’ve been taken somewhere else.
In his ABC interview, Edwards admitted to the original 2006 affair by denied anything recent. My original comment was that we should have compassion unless he tries to deflect blame. But, since he won’t even be honest when “coming clean”, I have lost any sense of compassion for him.
I feel sorry for his wife and kids.
How can anyone trust a guy who would cheat on his sick wife? Obviously he has no real moral values or commitment to anyone but himself…not the person I’d want to see holding public office, there is too much at stake. If he’d cheat on his wife, he’d think nothing of other unethical behaviors as long as he had something to gain by it.
Mary_Caruso,
You talking about Edwards or McCain? Seems it fits them both.
Anyone who would stoop so low.
There used to be a saying the field of psychiatry..half of the anti-social personalities are in prison, and the other half are holding political office. I think we have seen plenty of that truth.
Mary
There are a couple who post on this Blog.
Not sure what office they hold, or what prison they are in! :)
They probably SHOULD be in prison! Or maybe they have been?
Like I’ve proven time and again, the whole country is hyterical about sex. Given temptation and opportunity, 99 percent of males still possessing libido will take advantage. It’s just human nature. Get over it.
JM….you saying McCain cheated and lied about it as well? Where do you get your information?
sorry beber…not all of us are out of control juvenile and vulgar sex fiends like you.
Wow! MAX WAS RIGHT!
Turns out Edwards did LIE about his LIE!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401462,00.html
John Edwards’ explanation of his affair with videographer Rielle Hunter includes several apparent inconsistencies, which grate against his assertion that he was telling “99 percent” of the truth before coming clean Friday in a confessional interview.
Edwards admitted to the affair with Hunter, saying it began in 2006. He denied it for months it following reports by the National Enquirer last October.
But discrepancies between his story and the unraveling timeline of events raise more questions about whether Edwards’ attempts to come clean are in fact just more lies and half-truths.
A former close friend to Edwards’ mistress told FOXNews.com on Monday that the former presidential candidate’s affair began months before she was hired to work for his campaign — contrary to Edwards’ claim that the relationship began only after Hunter was hired to film Edwards for a series of documentaries to appear on the Internet.
Pigeon O’Brien said Hunter met Edwards at a New York City hotel in late February or early March of 2006, and that the affair began shortly thereafter.
By the time Hunter was signed on to the Edwards campaign as a videographer — for a fee of $114,000 — O’Brien said they were already in a steamy relationship.
I don’t care whether or not his wife was in remission. Cheating is cheating. And public cheating is even MORE humilitating for his wife.
He should be run out of town, but naturally, the democrat party will excuse his behavior with comments like: “It’s just human nature. Get over it.“
John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) cheated on his first wife, “KSGolfnut.”
Where’s your high-falutin’ moral outrage about that?
Hypocrite.
MH…did he lie about it repeatedly to the world? that doesn’t make it ok, but did he compound the act by lying about it, over and over?
Seems that Mr. Edwards strayed from the pathway….
Now, that being said…. A number of years ago, when my late Aunt was suffering from a killer cancer, and knew she had less than 9 months to live, and life was hell for her those last months….
SHE told my now late Uncle, “Look, old man, I know you cant take care of yourself… We have known “so and so” for 30 years…. and she would be good for you, and take care of you… I will never be home again, EVER…. Get with it, and get her moved into the house, and when I am gone, you guys get married….”
And so, my Uncle did….
Now, such things do not often happen…. But they DO happen occasionally…. I will not presume this is what happened with John Edwards and his wife… UNTIL or UNLESS, I hear it from Mrs. Edwards on live TV….
Thats all I got to say about it…. Edwards screwed up… Politicians…. Always thinking with the wrong head!!
Enjoy your little bit of red meat cons.
Come November, you’ll have nothing to smile about.
Bob Dole had fling with Liddy when he was still married…. Ronald Reagan had a fling with Ms. Nancy, when he was still married to Jane Wyman…. Newt Gingrich has at least two ex-wives on his trophy belt…. It seems to be fairly common now days….
Nelson Rockefeller, as V.P. had been previously married…. Seems to permeate politics…. Almost is a non-story anymore…
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BlueJay
Posted August 11, 2008 at 9:24 pm | Permalink
Enjoy your little bit of red meat cons.
Come November, you’ll have nothing to smile about.
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Neither will you BJ, as you hate both candidates.
I have this feeling that if Obama were to get caught cheating on his wife??? He would no longer be candidate for President…. He would be D E A D!!!
Chas
But, he is from Chicago, he could still vote for himself, even if dead!
You LIBS are completely SICK in your Defensive Response of Edwards.
Your true colors shine through here clearly for all to see. And it ain’t a pretty sight.
You Hillary people should be mad as heck.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/11/clinton-adviser-blames-edwards-for-her-nomination-loss/
Hillary Clinton’s former campaign communications director on Monday said if John Edwards had been honest about his affair or if the news were public before the Iowa caucuses in January, the New York senator could have been the next presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, not Barack Obama.
The OTHER Woman Didn’t Like Elizabeth! Suprise! (Neither did John!)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401324,00.html
Report: Edwards’ Ex-Mistress Held Particular Scorn for Elizabeth Edwards
Monday, August 11, 2008
Elizabeth Edwards has “bad energy,” claimed the woman who had an affair with two-time presidential candidate John Edwards, according to Monday’s online edition of Newsweek magazine.
Rielle Hunter, the mistress at the center of the political storm around Edwards, held the former North Carolina senator in high regard. However, the party girl-turned-healer-turned-videographer was apparently less generous with her former paramour’s wife.
“I’ve only met her once,” Hunter told Newsweek reporter Jonathan Darman in late 2006 during a lunch in which she mistakenly cast him as a friend. “She does not give off good energy. She didn’t make eye contact with me.”
Weeks later, Hunter was fired from her job documenting Edwards on the campaign trail. She called the reporter to tell him, saying Edwards did not defend her when she was relieved of her $114,000-plus job. But her scorn for Elizabeth Edwards was evident, blaming her for her misfortune.
“Someday, the truth about her is going to come out,” Hunter told Newsweek.
Did we ever get a thread about how John McCain tossed aside his first wife like a broken toy?
Why NO we didn’t.
Edwards was not a candidate for anything.
John McCain is the Republican nominee for President. I think we should talk about how he kicked his first wife to the curb because she was in an automobile accident and wasn’t pretty anymore.
John McCain is the Republican nominee for President. I think we should talk about how he kicked his first wife to the curb because she was in an automobile accident and wasn’t pretty anymore.
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maybe because it isn’t true?
Edwards WAS a candidate for President. Many anti-Obama and anti-Clinton voters supported Edwards.
The Clinton/Obama race was close enough, that had Edwards not been there, one poll showed 57% of the Edwards voted would have voted for CLINTON.
That is a big f’n difference. You Clinton lovers, JR for example, should be mad as heck that the press didn’t do its job and expose Edwards 2006 (2007? 2008? 2009?) affair last January, just 8 months ago.
Course the Lib press hates to report any bad news about THEIR side. That’s why many have no clue what Obama has done in the past.
Another JR deflection from the topic at hand.
Just a few weeks ago, JR was posting as fast as he could to support Clinton.
Now he’s fallen in line, just like all the other lambs, heading to a slaughterhouse.
Towin’ the line J R?
JR’s sniffin for bird seed, following the trail wherever it takes him. As long as its free, he’ll go anywhere for a free seed.
Give us a thread about how John McCain kicked his first wife to the curb because she was in a car wreck and wasn’t pretty anymore.
“ANTI’S” reaction is the same as con ranter Sean Hannity’s was today when a caller brought this up.
Except Hannity got defensive and angry.
(Paraphrasing)
“Well I don’t know, if you are in a prison camp and tortured for years and you come home maybe there are personality conflicts. Thanks for calling GOODBYE!”
Mrs. McCain the first did not tell her captive husband about her injuries. She did not want to burden him with that.
And that rat came home and found someone younger and undamaged and above all RICH.
And he paid off Mrs. McCain 1 with Mrs. McCain 2’s money and kicked her to the curb.
Thread please?
Isn’t this an Edwards topic?
What in the heck is the OPEN topic for?
My party does not have a settled nominee yet cons.
My concerns as to that are well known.
YOUR nominee John McCain is a settled, but media protected quantity.
Now we all know the over told John McCain story.
He was in a prison camp. He got tortured.
He is probably deeply screwed up inside because of that but because it didn’t kill him?
Well hell he’d make an acceptable President!
No I want to know more about John McCain AFTER he came home.
“Isn’t this an Edwards topic?
What in the heck is the OPEN topic for?”
Hey this is the second Edwards thread in 4 days.
And Edwards isn’t running for anything.
If Nathan can interrupt threads to call for threads I’m gonna feel free to do the same.
Sure JR, go post your McCain “theories” on the Open topic. (Like YOU are a great judge of CHARACTER!)
Are you really trying to defend Edwards by attacking McCain? How Clintonesque of you!
If my man WAS Edwards, I’d try to change the subject too!
Say JR, why don’t you buy a blog and post 1,348 topics on McCain?
You are afterall, so talented, I’m sure you have the technical expertise that matches your writing skills, and you would draw millions of viewers and millions of web hits, which should make you rich and self-supporting for the very first time in your pathetic little life!
Go for it!
It sounds like a cliche; it sounds trite; but it must be said (again):
In public life, perception is everything. Last night, I observed snippets of Mr. Edwards’ “confession” on a nightly news program. I could have been: 1) disinterested; 2) repelled; or 3) sympathetic.
Let’s try #2 on for size, shall we?
Even before this news broke, I was unimpressed with Edwards as a public speaker. I believed he was a good man; I believed he had the public’s best interests at heart; I believed he was a worthy running mate of Mr. Kerry.
All this took place before Elizabeth Edwards’ cancer returned, of course. And unfortunately, I was turned off – big time – by what I saw last night.
We Democrats have a problem, my friends. And it’s a problem of perception. A lot of folks believe we don’t care about morality. Many folks believe that character is unimportant in an elected official. (How many times did we hear, a decade ago, that “it’s Hillary’s problem, not ours”….)
Yes – it’s all about perception. And Edwards probably hasn’t acquitted himself very favorably here. A lot of folks mistakenly equate “Liberal” with “libertine.” It’s a problem of perception. I would beg to differ with those perceptions.
The Democratic party had better differ with it, too, unless we want another Bush clone in the W.H. (Let’s face it – is McCain a saint in this regard? Probably not….)
“FilmFan” –
I suspect John Edwards is exceptional in that he’s been the most open and honest of politicians who couldn’t keep zipped-up.
Newt Gingrinch isn’t apologizing for boinking a staffer even has he was proclaiming moral outrage over Clinton and Lewinsky. No one is challenging John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) about his boinking the Arizona Beer Queen while he was still married to Carol; or asking him about how he deserted his first wife and their three kids for a life of eight mansions and a private jet to fly him there.
I knew an actress in Los Angeles who swore she would never submit to the casting couch… “…unless it was for an A-List picture.”
I suspect her sliding scale of what is “moral” is closer to most people’s reality
Your points are valid, M-Hawk. There’s a whole lotta Repubblies who have erred in this regard. (Do the words “Jimmy” and “Swaggart” come to mind here????)
It’s just that – the cancer factor, Elizabeth Edwards’ personal attributes, and her wayward hubbie’s smarmy appearance last night on “ET” – they all add up to a big, huge yuck factor. I was just turned off – badly.
Then again, – God help us if McSwain swings into office come November………
“sorry beber…not all of us are out of control juvenile and vulgar sex fiends like you.
” — Raptor
Lack of opportunity is not virtue. A study was done in which an attractive co-ed offered herself to males on campus. She had one refusal.
uh, beber? how does your unverified ’study’ on a campus relate to married adults?
Look, Raptor, I can’t help it you are so unattractive you couldn’t get laid in a Mexican whorehouse. Don’t mistake being pathetic with virtue. However I will point out that many people on campus are married or are in relationships.
I know many men who cherish their marriages and don’t fool around even when the opportunity is there…not eveyone is a snake just because you belive they are, Beber.
beber….does your mommy know you are playing with her computer again?
Thankfully, school will be starting again soon and you will be back in 8th grade and not bothering the adults here, you juvenile vulgar little jerk.
Some people project their own behaviors onto eveyone else in order to justify it. Maybe you need to take a good hard look in the mirror, Beber.
by the way…where is the reference of your ’study’? Did you make it up? Probably… typical childish stunt, playing the “let’s pretend” game.
Uh…how many people on campus are married? Generalized statements by you do not make it true, no matter how much you wish it to be so.
Go back to grade school, will you?
I had a friend once who fooled around on her husband with any willing man who came along, even two of his relatives. She used to justify it by saying that, if given the opportunity, most people would do the same…and that no one could say they “would never cheat on their spouse”, but I never cheated, and neither did any of my other friends..she was the lone one fooling around. That’s how she justified it to herself, beliveing “everyone does it”.
Her marriage fell apart, and any attempt at marriage after the first also didn’t last. She was lacking the values to make it happen, she was self centered, lacked honor and honesty, and she never had a successful realtionship that I know of. Who would want to be in relationship with someone so untrustworthy?
So look at yourself, Beber. do you really think most people are dogs, or is it mostly just you?
Am with you, Mary. I have never once cheated on my wife and have no intention of doing so. Opportunities have been there…but I am just not interested. Several of my friends feel the same way, that we are in this for the long term and have respect for both our spouses and our marriage.
The ‘everyone does it’ mentality is usually held by those who cannot abide by their vows and use it to justify their own indescretions.
I prefer to believe most people are honest and have values. If you really love someone, you would never risk hurting and/or losing them for a cheap thrill.
You’d be wrong then, Mary. Look up the cheating statistics. Most likely to occur early in marrige. Being old, tired, fat and unattractive so one no longer has any opportunities is not a virtue.
Raptor, being so butt ugly that you had no chance to cheat on your wife is not a virtue, and is nothing to be proud of. Your claim that you’ve had “opportunities” means what? You were at least thinking about it? Most likely you exploded an innocent situation into an “opportunity.” A random smile in a crowded supermarket is not an opportunity. It’s just pity.
And if you actually had “opportunities,” how did you create them? They “arise” in no other way.
Yes, and some people do cherish their marriages, and don’t look for opportunities, nor even think about it much. But given a strange situation, maybe one too much to drink at an out of town meeting, and then that rare occurrence, a randy lady, most men will succumb. In my case, I’ve achieved faithfulness through being clueless, which is not a virtue. Once, when I was watching ships on the Intercoastal channel, a young Vietnamese woman asked me to “follow her to Paradise. (It’s an island near Port Arthur). “I already know the way,” I said.
Fifty miles later it dawned on me.
And just for argument’s sake, what obligation to be faithful remains to a man who’s wife becomes so sexually unattractive that a dog couldn’t be trained to have her? I mean look around you. Who could blame them?
” prefer to believe most people are honest and have values. If you really love someone, you would never risk hurting and/or losing them for a cheap thrill.” — Mary
Sex and values are not connected.
beber…do you take great pride in making personal insults that have no bearing in fact? You make up insults about a physical appearance and post it here like it is fact.
Your juvenile insults and vulgarity are rather limiting. You have demonstrated that you have no class, no morals and little intelligence. An insult from you regarding my physical appearance is without any basis nor does it bother me. I consider the source–a vulgar little juvenile with too much time on his hands.
I next expect you to post something like “raptor has 3 eyes and green hair, nyahh nyahh, nyahh” That would be about your speed.
Sex and values are not connected.
Damn. I hope you don’t have kids. What a pathetic outlook. How many times have you cheated beber?
Nor are love and sex.
I have kids, and they’ve all had sex, as will yours Sol, most likely with muliple partners.
“Your juvenile insults and vulgarity are rather limiting. You have demonstrated that you have no class, no morals and little intelligence. An insult from you regarding my physical appearance is without any basis nor does it bother me. I consider the source–a vulgar little juvenile with too much time on his hands.” — Raptor.
So you are butt ugly then?
I am faithful. I will teach my son to be faithful. I will teach him that values, morals and fidelity are strongly tied to sex.
You?
And once again I have proven people are hysterical about sex. It’s a bodily function folks, if you don’t do it with some one, you do it in your sleep. It’s inevitable and unavoidable, given health.
Please be aware, I am talking about men. Women would rather pick a new color for the bedroom, if their eggs aren’t dropping.
Also be aware I’ve been trapped for six days on a construction job with a sack of mystery books selected for me by the female owner of a used book shop. Oh my Gawd! Seventeen pages of detailed description about how the heroine feels and then they screw.
It’s a bodily function folks, if you don’t do it with some one,
Sounds like you have an open marriage then. You cool with some guy banging your wife while you’re out at your construction site? You banging other women while you’re there?
I mean it is just a bodily function right?
“You cool with some guy banging your wife while you’re out at your construction site?” — Sol.
That old broad? She couldn’t get laid in a mattress store.
But seriously, female faithfulness and male faithfullness are not equivalent. We’re built differently, and the act has different possible consequences for the sexes. Remember, I’m only talking about the behavior of males.
The only place where you’ll find out the REAL reason women are cheating as much as men
http://womensinfidelity.com/
The rate of female infidelity is now approaching that of men, which is even worse.
http://www.sinaicentral.com/kedusho/female_infidelity.htm
Titillated, Sol? You knew right where to go didn’t you? And good for them.
And good for them
Do you have an open marraige?
None of your business, Sol.
Sad that you don’t hold your wife in anymore esteem than you do, Beber…I think she probably could have done a whole lot better, given your attitude and obvious distain for the female sex. I feel sorry for her.
As for me, I don’t think I quite fit your sterotype of middle aged women.
And I feel sorry for you…that you obviously never had the joy of having sex with someone you really love, seeing how you think the two can’t be intermingled.
Does that mean I don’t have to wash the dishes tonight, Mary?
Well written
She thought she could get away with cheating? No way in hell, this is bittersweet revenge.
I never thought she was capable of cheating, I guess I was wrong.