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Senator John McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama can cause me to vote for McCain, which I will do.
Those that vote for Barack Obama are Liberals.
Liberal: An Open Minded individual Whose Brain Has Fallen Out.
Throwing Hope and Change Under the Bus
Obama’s choice of Washington insider Joe Biden is only one sign that the Messiah of Hope and Change is really just a Politician with Slogans. One of the more revealing statements by a senior Obama adviser reveals how Barry has grown “impatient” with his campaign staff who actually care about his, apparently temporary, boring, sloganny rhetoric meant to simply fool the bitter and clingy.
The candidate of change went with the status quo:
A senior Obama adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said his boss has expressed impatience with what he calls a “reverence” inside his campaign for his message of change and new politics. In other words, Obama is willing — even eager — to risk what got him this far if it gets him to the White House.
Prior to the Obama-Biden statement in Springfield today, Major Garrett noted that it appears Obama is willing to “sacrifice” his original message about change. That’s generous. I would suggest it’s not a sacrifice at all—but a simple revealing of the Real Barack Obama and one more sign that The One is like All the Others.
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/08/23/throwing-hope-and-change-under-the-bus/
Conservative:
A person whose social development is arrested in the “mine” phase.
NBRA sends us this interesting quiz.
BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY – Part I
1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960’s, including Frederick Douglass , Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP who were themselves white?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the1957 Civil Rights Act and the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that est ablished goals and timetables?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who supports the U.S. Supreme Court’s University of Michigan Affirmative Action decision, and is spending over $200 billion to fight AIDS in Africa and on programs to help black Americans prosper, including school vouchers, the faith-based initiative, home ownership, and small business ownership?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[ ] b. Republican Party
ANSWERS: The correct answer for all questions in Part I of the BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY quiz are all ‘b’.
BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY – Part II
10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[ ] b. Democratic Party
11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[ ] b. Democratic Party
12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[ ] b. Democratic Party
13. What was the Party of President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president, and later had the FBI (supervised by his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy) investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[ ] b. Democratic Party
14. What is the Party of current Senator Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Senator Fritz Hollings who hoisted the Confed erate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina when he was the governor, and Senator Ted Kennedy who recently insulted black judicial nominees by calling them “Neanderthals” while blocking their appointments?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[ ] b. Democratic Party
15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[ ] b. Democratic Party
16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960’s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[ ] b. Democratic Party
17. What Party is against the faith-based initiative, against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[ ] b. Democratic Party
ANSWERS: The correct answer for all questions in Part II of the BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY quiz are all ‘b’.
BlueJay, your post above;
‘Your’ definition of a conservative brought a chuckle to my mouth. It really did, thanks.
But not because it is accurate, but because it is an accurate example of a liberal’s thinking.
Now read the definition of a liberal again:
Liberal: An Open Minded individual Whose Brain Has Fallen Out.
I look forward to hearing Senator Ted Kennedy speak. The last of the brothers in office and he won’t be around forever. Regardless of politics, the legacy is coming to an end and it will be a historical moment.
And KansasNative, if you are for Obama because of his race, you are a racist.
Regular, I would like to hear him too, but I don’t know if we will — ever again.
I had a most interesting conversation with a group last time I visited Boston which was not too long after he was diagnosed. We talked about the great cost of health care at the end of life. And how all too often that great cost buys a few months. Not even necessarily good months. Someone said how Kennedy had the opportunity to make this a national conversation. But we all knew he would have to acknowledge how serious his illness was and how futile the options available were. Everyone pretty much knew he would be buying those few extra months. And maybe the dynasty he is patriarch of required a few extra months. But, sometime, someday we as a nation need to have that conversation about the cost of end of life. Boy will that conversation have lots of emotion, detours, turns, curves…
I am not advocating that doctors can determine accurately every time when we have reached “that” point. I do believe life is in the hands of a Supreme Being. But I still think someday we will need to look at how medical advances have left us the capability of prolonging what maybe shouldn’t be prolonged.
Best Advertising yet:
http://www.texasgop.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Obama_Commercial
I’m guessing the mood at the Democratic Convention is happy, almost giddy. Probably the closest I’ve ever come to that almost giddy feeling was that cold, snowy night last February when the Democratic caucus was held. People excited about participating, enthusiastic about the candidates, tickled pink at the turnout!
I was a Hillary supporter that night. We stood in long lines and the whole thing was more disorganized than I could describe. While we stood in those lines we talked. The overwhelming fact I came away with was that no matter who you favored there were excellent candidates and it was good to be a member of the Democratic Party. By that night we were already down to two candidates. There were a few people who “stood for” Edwards or Richardson symbolically before joining either either the Obama or Clinton supporters.
I rode that “high” for weeks after that night! When I think about it now I feel the enthusiasm and excitement.
I’m positive this Convention will bring the Democratic Party together behind Obama! There are NO viable alternatives!
Franklin,
Thanks for the link to the Obama video….I hadn’t seen it.
Actually, the right to own property is the foundation of any free society.
There is NO freedom without ownership.
The movie “Reds” still plays sometimes, on cable. I get a kick out of how dumb and naive American Communists have always been. “Property is Theft” their signs said.
Actually, a government that does not allow private ownership is the very definition of tyrany.
Hillary Clinton will have to make one helluva speech.
Only she can save Obama from his own mistakes and arrogance.
“Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. ”
If he was voting for Obama because McCain is white and he thought whites were an inferior race, then that would be racist.
If he just thinks it would be good for America to have a president with dark skin, that would not be racist. IMHO, and after looking up the definition of racism.
BTW:
It is so good you are so keen for McCain that you spend your time praising him, rather than just dumping on Senator Obama!
Gore will unify the party.
Around his candidacy.
Kansas Native
Are you telling Louis Farrakhan and Jerimiah Wright to GTFO of the country?
It’s our wonderful governor!!! You GO, GIRL!!!
Pelosi’s speech was disrupted today by the anti-war feminist group CodePink. CODEPINK ROCKS!
Targeting Obama’s half-brother?? .. see http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/25/politics/animal/main4381350.shtml “But let’s cut the nonsense — the Texas Republican Party isn’t concerned about George Obama. There’s a transparent subtext, which, once again, hopes to characterize Barack Obama as foreign, different, and somehow less than American. Even by Republican standards, this is unusually cheap and ugly”
“For one thing, Obama has several half-siblings, and he’s met George exactly once.”
Linda, I can’t say that I have ever felt giddy about politics or politicians. Giddy, no. Cynical, yes. I realized that politicians are just people, nothing special except for their ability to portray things as they aren’t and make people believe it.
The only politician who ever inspired me was Ronald Reagan.
Great to see the wrongly smeared Democratic war hero, John Kerry.
You know he chased a rocket-launcher carrying combatant – on foot – and shot the enemy soldier down to protect his boat and his crew…
A shame what those liars said about him…
Well see, outlander, I think Ronald Reagan started the downhill slide that was escalated beyond my wildest imagination by bushco. I get giddy just thinking about stopping this nonsense!
Wonder if history will tell us who really was making the decisions during the Reagan years?
Funny how some rich politicians help out their rich successful constituents become richer and fatter, and others, like the Kennedy’s work tirelessly to give those less well off a little help to get out of poverty and live a better life.
I hope Ted Kennedy is able to be there for his tribute. I hope he is able to speak.
I VERY much hope he is not used in any capacity.
It’s on right now, BlueJay.
He looks GOOD!
DavidB
Shame on Obama if he only met his half brother ONCE!
Obama went all over Kenya, promoting a political candidate, Odinga, who ended up being a complete thug.
Obama has time to hang around with thugs like Odinga, but he had no time to spend, or money to spend, on his own BROTHER?
It doesn’t wash.
Obama is pushing for a huge tax on America, roughly .7 % of of GDP, to fight world poverty.
AMAZING how generous liberals like Obama are with OPM (Other Peoples Money!)
He made it!
I did not think we would have him for this convention.
Truly, the lion of the Senate.
Ted is looking GREAT! I love that man.
Obama also made lots of money off of a book about his family, which he trashes. (At least Obama trashed the White part of the family. The part of the family that kept Obama OUT of a shack!)
Obama also turns his back on the High School friend he made money off of, in his book.
Obama is only generous with OPM, Other Peoples Money.
His voice is strong! His mind is clear and he is vibrant.
He didn’t trash his family, did he? You read the book, or did you read anti-Democrat bloggers being fair and balanced about the book? LOL!
Yes, Obama called his White grandmother a “racist” in his book, for being afraid of a Black man who panhandled her.
Yes, Obama says he is ashamed of his White mother, for having sexual or romantic attractions to Black women. Obama discovers this fact when he goes to the movies with his mother.
Mind you, Obama’s White Mother did abandon Obama, just as Obama’s Black polygamist Father and Black Polygamist Step-Father had abandoned Obama.
However, his White Grandparents worked hard to send Obama to an elite, private prep-school.
Obama disrespects all of his White relatives, in his own book. Never once does he give them any praise or thanks.
And, they are the people who kept Obama off the streets and OUT of a shack!
Was good to see and hear old Senator Ted Kennedy.
Hope he continues to improve in his health. :)
Sorry, mistake above, I am watching TV too.
Obama was ashamed of his White Mother for having attractions to Black Men.
He said, “I was embarrased for her” when he talked about going to the movies, with his mother.
I wish Ted Kennedy good health. Truly I do. I would not wish such an illness on anyone.
Barack Obama will be the Commander In Chief who understands that American youth can never be committed to a mistake.
Senator Ted Kennedy
Look, I am trying to be nice, by Ted Kennedy is no position to pass judgements on other people.
John F. Kennedy, his brother, sent the first combat troops to Vietnam. John F. Kennedy also encouraged the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, then failed to provide air support, to the Cuban freedom fighters.
Also, Kennedy asked another person to take the fall for him, when he made the worst mistake of his life.
That was TED Kennedy, who asked another person to claim that HE was driving the car.
Ted did a great job, nice tribute, brought back some old memories about his brothers. He still has the fire in his belly even with his age and health problems.
I am soooo glad Frankie has such a good, deep understanding of growing up black in America… LOL!!! Hold forth, oh wise one!!!! Hold forth. Spew your wisdom on race relations!!! LOLOLOL
On a serious note..
What a great fighter for American ideals, Senator Kennedy is… such a great American…
Quit “trying to be nice,” Franklin. It’s beyond your ability and quite obvious. Go back to being the idiot political hack that you are.
The person who is in no position to pass judgments on other people IS YOU, Franklin! But that has NEVER stopped you.
Franklin
Posted August 25, 2008 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
Also, Kennedy asked another person to take the fall for him, when he made the worst mistake of his life.
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What?????? Ted Kennedy’s your father??????
Look, I hope Ted has made his peace with God, it is not my place to judge.
However, Ted Kennedy swam to safety, after he ran off the bridge, and then Ted Kennedy tried to get another man to take the blame for HIS mistake.
Kennedy is in no place to judge anyone.
Ted Kennedy was never President because Ted Kennedy killed somebody, and then Ted Kennedy did not have the courage to admit what he had done, and Ted Kennedy tried to get someone else to take the blame for his mistake.
I do think that the way Ted Kennedy is handling his illness is admirable, much like Tony Snow
Moral judgements from the blogs resident, soulless shill.
Sigh.
Franklin
Posted August 25, 2008 at 9:11 pm | Permalink
and then Ted Kennedy tried to get another man to take the blame for HIS mistake.
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So Ted Kennedy is YOUR father. Hey, people, we got us a real celebrity here. Not only is he from the planet, “Wango” (Wango has been off limits to all intelligent creatures for over 2 billion years . . . 3894 years, 76 days to you true believers. Obviously their borders need some work to keep the semi-sentient beings in), and he’s got a Senator for a daddy. Ain’t this country great?
Oh, good!
I’m waiting for Michelle Obama to speak and stopped in to see who was calling who names. Or is that whom? Whatever.
John F. Kennedy, his brother, sent the first combat troops to Vietnam.
And Eisenhower (R) sent the first TROOPS. “Peacekeeping”, of course. So what’s your point?
I’m waiting for Michelle Obama as well.
I confess. I do not like her.
But I’ll listen.
We have military advisors all over the world. The first combat troops were sent to Vietnam, under John F. Kennedy.
I didn’t know both Barack and Michelle lost a parent who was young at the time of their death. I know it doesn’t mean anything, but I’d never heard it and found it an interesting tidbit of trivia.
I DO like her, BlueJay. She’s a strong woman, much the same as Hillary. (And you thought I didn’t like Hillary.) Family is integral to them, and I doubt, if she was the only one to choose, she would want her husband running for President. Most women don’t.
Only she can save Obama from his own mistakes and arrogance.
And who will save Hillary from HER arrogance? Face it. Politicians need to have some degree of arrogance. Without it, they fail. Show me one who lived in the WH who didn’t, and I’ll show you a failure.
Michelle now coming on…
Some people just have such a simple-minded, unthoughtful way of approaching the world.. no understanding of the nuances.. no idea of the inner struggles some must deal with.. simple platitudes and half-baked slogans seem to be the substitute for thinking…
It must be those right wing blogs… it ya sleep with the dogs you wake up with fleas, I guess…
sigh… I am sure their heart is in the right place, they are just working from a bad data base…
Barrack “lost” a parent? How? His bigamist Father dumped his mother, and Barrack for several other wives, at the same time.
Then, in one of his several alcoholic accidents, Barrack Hussein Obama Senior, who already had prosthetic legs, due to another drunken wreck, had another drunken car wreck, that killed him. This happened when Barrack was an adult.
really, really bad — broken beyond repair.
Me?
I KNOW BlueJay.
My Bet? He will be shilling for Obama before the week is over.
Franky.. is this somehow, Senator’s Obama’s fault? You want to put the sins of the father onto the child?
You are so empathetic to the troubles of others…
Please ignore my hecklers.
I am sorry that I provide meaning to their existence, let alone their need to post here.
David
Not at all, but Obama is a complete FRAUD!
Obama wrote a BOOK about his own family, and nearly every chapter of that book is a lie.
Obama says his Father died of a car accident, never admitting that the accident was due to his Father’s drunk driving.
Obama says his step Father died of liver disease, never admitting that the liver disease was caused by alcoholism.
I admire Betty Ford, who started the Betty Ford clinic.
I do not admire Barrack Obama, who can not face the truth about himself of his family.
Moreover, Obama has made money off of his family, and share NONE Of that money with the poor members of his family.
Michelle Obama is not telling the truth.
Barrack Obama was recruited by Marxist agitators to get Black churches politically involved.
Barrack was NOT recruited by the Black ministers or by the “neighborhoods” — Barrack was recruited by leftist White guys who were kicked out of those Black churches.
My Bet? He will be shilling for Obama before the week is over.
Second verse same as the first….That is what you will do BlueJay, you will fall in line…
Obama is a complete FRAUD!
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Yes, with handlers…he is a puppet.
Read Saul Alinsky, White guy, who trained the White guys that recruited Obama.
Oh, part of that group?
White guy TERRORIST William Ayers, who bombed the Pentagon and 29 other places.
Oh boy…
Kum by yah with the cons?
I wondered how long it would take her to get there.
David
If Obama had NEVER made money off of his family, and had never promoted his own political career, by writing a bogus book?
I would have trouble bringing any of this stuff up.
However, Obama LIED about his past, and Obama made money off of those lies.
Money Obama has not shared with his poor relatives.
Obama wants all of us to pay an international “poverty tax” but Obama will not help his own brother?
She is passionate and inspiring. That is part of what America has needed badly — leaders who believe in us and inspire us to our greatest potential!
It is sad that Michelle’s Father and Barack’s Mother couldn’t be there with them. I hope she’s right and somehow they know what wonderful people their children grew to be.
http://www.texasgop.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Obama_Commercial
George Obama lives in a shack.
Barrack Obama will not give George Obama any of Barrack Obama’s OWN money, but —
Barrack wants all of us to be taxed, in order to support additional United Nations funding to the poor!
Please ignore my hecklers.
Great advice! Happy to oblige, sir! ;-)
A little respect paid to Senator Clinton?
Even though it is rumored it was Michelle who strongly objected to offering Senator Clinton the VP?
Unimpressive. If I want “I’ve made it and you can make it too!” I’ll tune in next week for the con vention.
Barrack’s mother dumped Barrack on her parents. Yes, his mother did a better job than his father, but in the end, his mother dumped him too.
Barrack’s White grandparents raised Barrack, after Barrack Hussein Obama Jr. came back from his stay with his Muslim step-father, in Indonesia.
Good speech by Mrs. Obama, cute family. :)
Now, it’s time for the rest of the story.
cues Paul Harvey…
Franklin, you are quickly become an obsessed fool. The blog jester, if you will.
The warm fuzzies are over the top.
Obama is impressive.
He has done very well, but he did so with the help of his grandparents, who he never thanks.
His grandparents gave Obama a priveleged education.
Obama has lived a broken life, as far as family is concerned, and Obama has feelings of abandonment. That is natural.
Obama is NOT qualified to be President, however.
Obama’s dishonesty, alone, is enough to disqualify him.
I tried to tell him earlier Pre. He’s like a badly mannered child who just whines and makes noise while the adults are trying to talk. Even the right side of the blog is ignoring him.
But a lesson for the readers here. A vote for mcsame is a vote for nut jobs like paulie.
Rossell, Pul-EEEEZE. If you dont get help at charter, get help somewhere. Seriously dude, I am very concerned about your mental health. What will your granddaughter do when you are carted off to your local version of Bellvue?
Really man. This delusional lying cant be good for you. She needs you. Think of her and get a grip!
Charter closed long ago, update yourself, lol.
And, everything I have posted here has appeared in MAJOR news publications.
You should try to educate yourself on some of those issues, as well.
By the way, Obama just said he was in St. Louis when he was in Kansas City, his daughter had to correct him.
You lefties love to call what you don’t want to hear, “lies” —
Everything I have posted is true.
Regular, I have a great appreciation for your grace tonight. In such contrast to Franklin who has no dignity and no class it shines even brighter, but alone it would be worth noting! Thank you. And, of course, you’re right that next week there will be that rest of the story. Some day both conventions will be history and we’ll be able to say we were part of it.
Looks like Michelle knoced one out of the stadium too. I was struck by the fact they are both from common bacgrounds, accomplishing uncommon deeds.
Hey paulie?
How DO you get the prollie gig?
You are poorly written, a bad speller, and about as deep as your one sentence stanzas of what you call a post.
You’re no more than a blog bumper sticker. They PAY you for this?
Linda
Ted Kennedy is “in the arena” and as a player in that arena, he spoke against other players.
That is his right, and his role.
However, he is not “off limits” anymore than it would be “off limits” for you to argue with anything that Tony Snow or Bob Novak might have ever said.
Ted Kennedy has some horrible demons to deal with. I wish him well with that.
I was also wondering if Michelle’s mother was ever going to smile and show her pride! She must be one tough woman.
I am convinced! You do do not know anything about Senator Obama.. but thanks for the distortions…
Too bad he didn’t trash his parents as good as you can. Do you hate your parents, too? Is this a projection of some kind? Obama is critcised for “trashing” his family, and then he is “lying” because he isn’t traching them more??? whahhahaaaaaa?????????
I personally knew many real live Marxists in Chicago. Believe me… they did not hire Harvard law students. LOL!
I hate to call names, but grrrr.. the word “ninny” wants to come out…… grrrr holding it back grrrrrr.
From that background.. see how far Barry Obama has come. What an inspiration!
What a wonderful presentation Mrs Obama just gave.
She sure doesn’t look like a wild-eyed radical. But probably a secret Marxist lesbian Muslim terrorist fist-jabber. Oh those reds are sneaky…
Just ignore Paul’s feeble attempts to rain on the parade.
And by the way, Linda, I opened by saying that I wished Kennedy well.
YOU told me not to even try.
Then, I politely told you why Ted Kennedy did not beat Jimmy Carter, and become President.
What I told you was true.
Ted asked another man to carry the burden of Ted’s mistake.
That man refused.
The rest is history.
“And, everything I have posted here has appeared in MAJOR news publications.”
L O L!
NOW you think you are getting printed?
Heeheehee. Obama now lied about where he was??? LOL. He said he was in Kansas City – twice! I heard it with my own ears!!! LOL He did not say Saint Louis!
What weird near parallel universe does that guy live in?
David
You are twisting my point and my words.
Obama has NEVER publicly thanked his “typical White” grandparents. (His words)
Obama has tried to put BOTH his bigimist drunk father and his bigamist drunk stepfather in a good light.
He did so in a book that made money. Lots of money. That book also kicked off Obama’s political career.
Obama never shared any of that money with his poor relatives.
She was real, visited with us, shared insight. It was very well done! I’m proud of her and enthusiastically happy that she will be our First Lady!
David
Obama said KC TWICE — but only after first saying St. Louis.
Honest mistake of course, but you would be all over McCain if he did that.
I think that wherever he was, his thought were in Denver tonight.
ONE paulie.
Give us ONE of your screeches here that has been picked up by the media.
Talk about your delusions of grandeur. What a kook.
BJ
I have reposted from other publications. I have admitted as much.
Unfortunately, as you are well aware, most of the “anti-Obama” press came out prior to Clinton sinking in the opinion polls.
BJ
You are the fool.
I never said that I was printed anywhere.
(not recently, anyway)
I said, clearly, that I am getting my facts from published news articles.
“If this party has a message, it has done a hell of a job hiding it tonight”
James Carville
“I have reposted from other publications. I have admitted as much.”
Uh huh. No one here much believes you anymore paulie. We all remember when you used a winger chat room as a “source”.
DNFTT
All is not sweetness and light:
“By Bill Sammon
Racial infighting among Democrats, which marred the presidential primaries, has flared up again at the party’s convention in Denver, where a black Hillary Clinton delegate is accusing a black Barack Obama delegate of calling her an “Uncle Tom.”
Delmarie Cobb of Chicago told FOX News Monday that Illinois Senate President Emil Jones, whom Obama called his “political godfather,” hurled the racially charged insult against her late Saturday for speaking out in support of Clinton. Although Democrats at the convention are trying to project an image of unity, there is lingering bitterness between the Clinton and Obama camps, in part because each side accused the other of playing the race card during the primaries.
On Monday, Illinois’ National Organization for Women President Bonnie Grabenhofer reportedly called on Jones to resign immediately from the Illinois state Senate for using the racial slur.
“That was a pretty horrible comment,” Grabenhofer, also a Clinton delegate, told The Sun-Times.
Cobb said Jones called her “Uncle Tom” in front of a group of Chicago aldermen in a hotel lobby after the two began a playful conversation that turned edgy as Cobb accused Jones of gloating over Obama’s victory. Jones then insinuated that Clintons played “gutter politics,” according to Cobb, who ended the conversation by announcing it was “time for me to go.”
“I walked away and said good night and walked over across the hall to the elevators,” she recalled. “And he shouted across the lobby, ‘Uncle Tom!’
“And I came back over and said, ‘Excuse me, what did you just say?’ And he grabbed me by my arms and started laughing. And I said, ‘No, no. What did you just say?’ And he didn’t repeat it. And I said, ‘Did you call me an Uncle Tom?’ And then I came back with a barrage of things that I won’t repeat publicly.”
The epithet comes from the title character of Harriet Beecher Stowe’s 19th century anti-slavery novel “Uncle Tom’s Cabin,” and typically it is construed as an insult meaning a black person who acts passively or submissively toward whites.
Initially, Jones denied calling Cobb an “Uncle Tom” and refused to elaborate. However, he is now telling reporters that he called her a “doubting Thomas” and that Cobb must have misheard the remark.
“She was spouting things about Barack,” Jones said. “What I said was, ‘Come on board, he’s a nice, clean cut guy and everything.’ I said, ‘We’ve got to stop all this. We’ve got too many doubting Thomases and we’ve got to get together.’
“And she was walking away and therefore she heard the last part of the word; she didn’t hear the whole part,” Jones added. “I cannot apologize for one misinterpreting what I said.”
Cobb questioned why the “doubting Thomas” explanation never came up when she first confronted Jones and he refused to repeat his remark.
“If he had said ‘doubting Thomas,’ he should have said it right then and there, said, ‘No, I did not say Uncle Tom, I said doubting Thomas.’ And it would have been over with,” Cobb said.
The Chicago Sun-Times quoted several aldermen who witnessed the exchange and confirmed that Jones called Cobb an “Uncle Tom.”
“I am firm in my convictions,” Cobb told FOX News. “Supporting Hillary Clinton is not a litmus test for being black.”
BJ
I post what needs to be posted.
You once told me that NOBODY thought something that I thought, but me.
I then, very quickly, showed you that you were wrong.
All it took was ONE person, since you said, flatly, NOONE!
lol
Transcript: Edward Kennedy’s DNC speech
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/25/kennedy.dnc.transcript/index.html
Chappaquiddick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy_Chappaquiddick_incident
I recall that, when Jessie Helms died, none other than Ann Coulter came forward to say that Ted Kennedy and Jessie Helms were viewed, by Capital Hill staff, as being the BEST Senators to work for.
Both Kennedy and Helms were great support to their staff, taking personal interest in them.
There, I said something nice.
However, I also recall that the press and the libs savagely attacked Helms, calling him a racist, and never once mentioning that Helms had adopted a disabled minority child.
The press attacked Helms AFTER Helms died.
“I post what needs to be posted.”
Uh huh paulie. I know all about you.
I’ve been reading about such as you in Thomas Frank’s book “The Wrecking Crew” how conservatives rule.
You are getting paid to post here. And whoever is paying you should know by now that they are fronting a clown. They are going to cut you off anytime.
THEN? They will pay another proll to come and attack YOU.
Please tell us you actually read Obama’s book.
Surely you are not just passing on pearls of wisdom you have read in “major news sources.”
If you have not read the book, you are just passing gas. Don’t you understand that you are reading crap written by political hacks who are lying to you? They are making you look like a fool.
Read the book, then pass judgement. I am certain there is a certain “context” you are missing out on.
You write your life story and let me know how it comes out… I am especially interested in your upbringing in a failed mixed race, international, multi-cultural family you seem to understand so well.
Ever since I learned that one of the “major news sources” is run by a guy funded by the Koch’s…. well.. it all falls into place… The super rich paying to have lies fed to the gullible lumpen proletariat.
Franklin your on a roll tonite. I’m sure your digging up very interesting stuff. But I have to ask you this. After 8 years of republican rule what is the state of the union. Compared to 1999
National Debt
Interest on the debt
Economy
Inflation Rate
Performance of Government Agencies
Ability of the military to fight a war
Ted Kennedy screwed up, badly.
If a Republican had killed someone, in this way, runing away instead of trying to help her —
The fact is, Mary Joe Kopeckne MIGHT have been ALIVE, for 2 hours or more.
Ted Kennedy ran from the scene, past several houses, and never wanted to report the accident at all.
http://www.ytedk.com/
annie
There is no Bush on the ballot.
The cons eat their own paulie.
And you are long dead meat.
Whoever it is pays you to post here is going to give us a new proll and probably pretty soon.
JR/BJ
This is the minor leagues.
You guys save us lots of money.
I just post to see what works, and pass along the results and information.
What I do has a purpose.
You libs do much of our research for us.
Thanks for playing.
I knew that once the Obama family got out where people can see them for the real, successful, self-made idealistic Americans (who worked to help the poor rather than taking jobs on Wall Street) the attacks will increase and get even more insane and vicious.
Those who have drunk the right-wing Kool-Aid about how”radical” the Obamas are … well they must be dizzy seeing how wrong they are… how they have been lied to… no wonder they are cynical and disaffected and bereft of any sense of hope…
You thought the false attacks have been ugly.. just you wait….
Did you read the “uncle Tom” problem, upthread?
It does not appear that the Dems are getting along very well.
40 some YEARS you have to go back for material prollie paulie?
You are getting paid to fight in the here and now.
Best come up with some new stuff. The next proll is gonna use the archives to rip you to pieces.
Hey franklin remember how reagan fu#ked over the working class ahh those were the good old days ehh
http://mises.org/article.aspx?Id=1544
I come to bury Reaganomics, not to praise it.
How well has Reaganomics achieved its own goals? Perhaps the best way of discovering those goals is to recall the heady days of Ronald Reagan’s first campaign for the presidency, especially before his triumph at the Republican National Convention in 1980. In general terms, Reagan pledged to return, or advance, to a free market and to “get government off our backs.”
Specifically, Reagan called for a massive cut in government spending, an even more drastic cut in taxation (particularly the income tax), a balanced budget by 1984 (that wild-spender, Jimmy Carter you see, had raised the budget deficit to $74 billion a year, and this had to be eliminated), and a return to the gold standard, where money is supplied by the market rather than by government. In addition to a call for free markets domestically, Reagan affirmed his deep commitment to freedom of international trade. Not only did the upper echelons of the administration sport Adam Smith ties, in honor of that moderate free-trader, but Reagan himself affirmed the depth of the influence upon him of the mid-19th century laissez-faire economist, Frederic Bastiat, whose devastating and satiric attacks on protectionism have been anthologized in economics readings ever since.
The gold standard was the easiest pledge to dispose of. President Reagan appointed an allegedly impartial gold commission to study the problem—a commission overwhelmingly packed with lifelong opponents of gold. The commission presented its predictable report, and gold was quickly interred.
Let’s run down the other important areas:
Government Spending. How well did Reagan succeed in cutting government spending, surely a critical ingredient in any plan to reduce the role of government in everyone’s life? In 1980, the last year of free-spending Jimmy Carter the federal government spent $591 billion. In 1986, the last recorded year of the Reagan administration, the federal government spent $990 billion, an increase of 68%. Whatever this is, it is emphatically not reducing government expenditures.
Sophisticated economists say that these absolute numbers are an unfair comparison, that we should compare federal spending in these two years as percentage of gross national product. But this strikes me as unfair in the opposite direction, because the greater the amount of inflation generated by the federal government, the higher will be the GNP. We might then be complimenting the government on a lower percentage of spending achieved by the government’s generating inflation by creating more money. But even taking these percentages of GNP figures, we get federal spending as percent of GNP in 1980 as 21.6%, and after six years of Reagan, 24.3%. A better comparison would be percentage of federal spending to net private product, that is, production of the private sector. That percentage was 31.1% in 1980, and a shocking 34.3% in 1986. So even using percentages, the Reagan administration has brought us a substantial increase in governm………
David
How, exactly, did Michelle prove that she is not a radical?
In fact, Michelle said very little about Barrack.
Michelle had to fix MICHELLE, and I think she kinda did that, with limited success.
I will admit that.
However, Michelle Obama is a radical, a radical trying hard to cover up that fact.
They see the big mo getting ready to steamroll them, the desperation will only increase as the week wears on.
But, hey, Johnny boy’s got this ace up his sleeve to relate to any and every assault.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080826/pl_nm/usa_politics_mccain_dc_1
She did attend that hotbed of radicalism college, Princeton.
Michelle Obama was friends with terrorist Bill Ayers and Dohrn, as well.
Oh I know all about you Paul F Rosell.
I even WAS you. A half a lifetime ago, I decided I had a conscience.
You chose otherwise.
We were talking about you the other night.
We were wondering how one of the high and mighty in the GOP could have fallen so far and been reduced to foolery here.
The answer, of course, is the party saw you as a kook. Oh you still have your role there. In between selling insurance you pick up a buck annoying us.
But they have tossed you aside and tossed you some crumbs paulie.
If I had no soul, I could easily take your job.
It turns out that Republican party is almost impossible to get in Kennedy, so i still dont have it. We then headed into Kennedy to explore. Their racist past go by.
Bush is pretty tight with the bin ladens too, I believe.
LOL Prove you are not a radical Maoist provocateur pretending to be a right wing “cut and paster” who is in a communist power struggle with the Stalinist masterminds running the Eagle and giving Mrs Obama a makeover so they can hand America over to the Arabs and enslave the white race so they can be shipped to Mars to feed invading alien stormtroopers.
Enough toying with the half-insane tonight…
Hey Franklin how about the time greenspan and reagan got together whew my butt still hurts from that one
http://www.buzzflash.com/hartmann/05/07/har05007.html
What do you do when you want to screw only the working people of your nation with the largest tax increase in history and hand those trillions of dollars to your wealthy campaign contributors, yet not have anybody realize you’ve done it? If you’re Ronald Reagan, you call in Alan Greenspan.
Through the “golden years of the American middle class” – the 1940s through 1982 – the top income tax rate for the hyper-rich had been between 90 and 70 percent. Ronald Reagan wanted to cut that rate dramatically, to help out his political patrons. He did this with a massive tax cut in the summer of 1981.
The only problem was that when Reagan took his meat axe to our tax code, he produced mind-boggling budget deficits. Voodoo economics didn’t work out as planned, and even after borrowing so much money that this year we’ll pay over $100 billion just in interest on the money Reagan borrowed to make the economy look good in the 1980s, Reagan couldn’t come up with the revenues he needed to run the government.
Coincidentally, the actuaries at the Social Security Administration were beginning to get worried about the Baby Boomer generation, who would begin retiring in big numbers in fifty years or so. They were a “rabbit going through the python” bulge that would require a few trillion more dollars than Social Security could easily collect during the same 20 year or so period of their retirement. We needed, the actuaries said, to tax more heavily those very persons who would eventually retire, so instead of using current workers’ money to pay for the Boomer’s Social Security payments in 2020, the Boomers themselves would have pre-paid for their own retirement.
Reagan got Daniel Patrick Moynihan and Alan Greenspan together to form a commission on Social Security reform, along with a few other politicians and economists, and they recommend a near-doubling of the Social Security tax on the then-working Boomers. That tax created – for the first time in history – a giant savings account that Social Security could use to pay for the Boomers’ retirement.
This was a huge change. Prior to this, Social Security had always paid for today’s retirees with income from today’s workers (it still is today). The Boomers were the first generation that would pay Social Security taxes both to fund current retirees and save up enough money to pay for their own retirement. And, after the Boomers were all retired and the savings account – called the “Social Security Trust Fund” – was all spent, the rabbit would have finished its journey through the python and Social Security could go back to a “pay as you go” taxing system.
Thus, within the period of a few short years, Reagan Reagan dramatically dropped the income tax on America’s most wealthy by more than half, and roughly doubled the Social Security tax on people earning $30,000 or less. It was, simultaneously, the largest income tax cut in America’s history (almost entirely for the very wealthy), and the most massive tax increase in the history of the nation (which entirely hit working-class people).
But Reagan still had a problem. His tax cuts for the wealthy – even when moderated by subsequent tax increases – weren’t generating enough money to invest properly in America’s infrastructure, schools, police and fire departments, and military. The country was facing bankruptcy.
No problem, suggested Greenspan. Just borrow the Boomer’s savings account – the money in the Social Security Trust Fund – and, because you’re borrowing “government money” to fund “government expenditures,” you don’t have to list it as part of the deficit. Much of the deficit will magically seem to disappear, and nobody will know what you did for another 50 years when the Boomers begin to retire 2015.
Reagan jumped at the opportunity. As did George H. W. Bush. As did Bill Clinton (although Al Gore argued strongly that Social Security funds should not be raided, but, instead, put in a “lock box”). And so did George W. Bush.
The result is that all that money – trillions of dollars – that has been taxed out of working Boomers (the ceiling has risen from the tax being on your first $30,000 of income to the first $90,000 today) has been borrowed and spent. What are left behind are a special form of IOUs – an unique form of Treasury debt instruments similar (but not identical) to those the government issues to borrow money from China today to fund George W. Bush’s most recent tax cuts for billionaires (George Junior is still also “borrowing” from the Social Security Trust Fund).
Former Bush Junior Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill recounts how Dick Cheney famously said, “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.” Cheney was either ignorant or being disingenuous – it would be more accurate to say, “Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter if you rip off the Social Security Trust Fund to pay for them, and don’t report that borrowing from the Boomers as part of the deficit.
You really should read Frank there paulie.
I was a con foot soldier once. Hence how I know you so well.
And IF this blog is really important to your masters, they will be replacing you very soon.
annie
It is absolutely, positively IMPOSSIBLE to put Social Security funds “off limits” — the only way to protect Social Security funds from the General Fund is to set up “private accounts” — OWNERSHIP would keep governments hands off the money, once “deposited” — However it is the Democrats that oppose actual OWNERSHIP of Social Security funds.
So, if you invest in a government bond, treasury bills, a U.S. Savings Bond, or any other government “paper” your money goes into the General Fund. It HAS TO! There is no other way to do it.
Now, if the Social Security Trust Fund “buys” Government bonds, where does THAT money go?
Into the General Fund.
It is not possible to do it any other way, unless we actually set up seperate accounts and provide true ownership of the funds.
Al Gore’s “lock box” idea was a complete joke.
You can’t find a single economist or accountant that believes such a “lock box” can be accomplished.
It makes no sense.
BJ
Nobody expects me to change your mind.
They expect the smart libs to respond to my posts.
I then find out what the reaction to certain attacks might be.
There, I told you my “secret” lol.
This is Kansas.
Kansas will vote for McCain. I do not have to change any minds, I just have to get some free opposition research out of you guys.
You tell me how libs will respond.
Thanks.
John S (for Senile) McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) played the POW card… again… on Leno.
Methinks Paulie’s evident manic state reflects his dawning awareness that a black man soon will be President. The hysteria in Paulie’s tone suggests that he doesn’t much like the idea.
God did Teddy look and sound great tonight. Great to see that the old son of a bitch is still so full of fight and looking to the future. Makes CF2K proud to be a liberal. I’ll NEVER apologize for believing that things can be better and for.standing up for justice.
And though the thought sends Paulie into paroxysms, Michelle Obama has stepped into those First Lady shoes with strength, class, and beauty. I am so impressed with her family; great folks.
She and Barack are true American success stories: they come from among us, The People. Maybe that’s why subservient suck-ups like Paulie hate them so much; the magnitude of their accomplishments makes him seem even punier by comparison.
CF
You idiot.
I would vote for JC Watts in a heartbeat.
It is you leftists that are hurting Obama, by playing the “race card” far too often.
Poor Paul, he doesn’t even realize he’s the real Front Door Man.
I learned a LOT at the meetup the other day.
I need to do my research.
I’m the reverse now of the College Republicans there Paul F Rosell.
And I know how you people fight.
Two years I’ve been batting you around.
Time to put you on the canvas.
LOL
My work is about done anyway BJ.
You should see some of the advertising that is comming.
Most of the work is done already.
Franklin,
We haven’t played the race card for shit. Which is a lot more than McCain can say regarding the POW card.
After McCain is elected, I will leave you liberals to cry about it on your own, most of the time.
CF
Bill Clinton says that Obama played the race card.
Geraldine Ferraro says that Obama played the race card.
There are lots and lots of good reasons to vote against Obama.
Race is not one of them.
Obama PLAYING the race card IS!
My work is just getting started there Paul F Rosell.
Franklin the main point is your hero stole from the working class to fund a tax cut for the rich like a bizarro world robin hood
The result is that all that money – trillions of dollars – that has been taxed out of working Boomers (the ceiling has risen from the tax being on your first $30,000 of income to the first $90,000 today) has been borrowed and spent.
What does it matter as too what kind of debt was left behind. reagan took from the working class and redistributed to the capital class
What are left behind are a special form of IOUs – an unique form of Treasury debt instruments similar (but not identical) to those the government issues to borrow money from China today to fund George W. Bush’s most recent tax cuts for billionaires (George Junior is still also “borrowing” from the Social Security Trust Fund).
“My work is about done anyway ”
Yeah I covered that.
Franklin,
I’d say your obsession with Obama’s perceived “blackness” and whether or not he’s really a “Muslim” broadcasts your anxiety about a black man running the United States. And, by extension, holding a position of authority over you.
You play way too many racially-encoded games on this blog, Paulie, for you to deserve the benefit of the doubt regarding your overtly racist attitudes.
annie
It is impossible for the money that purchases any bond, purchased by the Social Security trust fund, to go anywhere BUT the General Fund.
YOU are talking in circles.
Also, how can you cry about debt, on the one hand, and then push Obama, who wants to spend even MORE money?
Face it, you don’t object to spending.
You don’t object to deficit spending.
You object to spending on the military.
CF
Lets try this one more time, since you are slower than most.
Obama wrote a book.
That book made lots of money.
That book set up Obama’s political career, and also allowed him to publish yet another, profitable book.
That first book was completely false.
This matters.
You, CF, do not care that Obama is presenting a false history of himself.
You simply jump at the chance to call anyone a “racist” who challenges Obama’s lies.
You really do not get it do ya paulie?
You are a tool.
And you are about to be tossed aside.
Unfortunately for you? You’ve my attention.
And even after they have tossed you aside, I will still be on you like a dog on red meat. Here, and otherwise.
Boxlock
Posted August 25, 2008 at 6:31 pm | Permalink
Senator John McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama can cause me to vote for McCain, which I will do.
Those that vote for Barack Obama are Liberals.
Liberal: An Open Minded individual Whose Brain Has Fallen Out.
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I for one, do not think Boxlock is completely dumb, but he has his limitations that he should strive to recognize, but I know he won’t.
Some other ideas about liberals:
Main Entry: 1lib·er·al
Pronunciation: \?li-b(?-)r?l\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English l?odan to grow, Greek eleutheros free
Date: 14th century
1 a: of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts barchaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2 a: marked by generosity : openhanded b: given or provided in a generous and openhanded way c: ample, full
3obsolete : lacking moral restraint : licentious
4: not literal or strict : loose
5: broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms
6 a: of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism bcapitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives
From Merriamn/Webser – http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberal
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JFK says:
http://www.liberalparty.org
John F. Kennedy
35th President
A Liberal Definition by John F. Kennedy:
Acceptance Speech of the New York
Liberal Party Nomination
September 14, 1960
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label “Liberal?” If by “Liberal” they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer’s dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of “Liberal.” But if by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a “Liberal,” then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.”
But first, I would like to say what I understand the word “Liberal” to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a “Liberal,” and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.
In short, having set forth my view — I hope for all time — two nights ago in Houston, on the proper relationship between church and state, I want to take the opportunity to set forth my views on the proper relationship between the state and the citizen. This is my political credo:
I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man’s ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.
I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a superstate. I see no magic in tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale federal bureaucracies in this administration as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.
Our responsibility is not discharged by announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons that liberalism is our best and only hope in the world today. For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 campaign is whether our government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility.
Our liberalism has its roots in our diverse origins. Most of us are descended from that segment of the American population which was once called an immigrant minority. Today, along with our children and grandchildren, we do not feel minor. We feel proud of our origins and we are not second to any group in our sense of national purpose. For many years New York represented the new frontier to all those who came from the ends of the earth to find new opportunity and new freedom, generations of men and women who fled from the despotism of the czars, the horrors of the Nazis, the tyranny of hunger, who came here to the new frontier in the State of New York. These men and women, a living cross section of American history, indeed, a cross section of the entire world’s history of pain and hope, made of this city not only a new world of opportunity, but a new world of the spirit as well.
Tonight we salute Governor and Senator Herbert Lehman as a symbol of that spirit, and as a reminder that the fight for full constitutional rights for all Americans is a fight that must be carried on in 1961.
Many of these same immigrant families produced the pioneers and builders of the American labor movement. They are the men who sweated in our shops, who struggled to create a union, and who were driven by longing for education for their children and for the children’s development. They went to night schools; they built their own future, their union’s future, and their country’s future, brick by brick, block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, and now in their children’s time, suburb by suburb.
Tonight we salute George Meany as a symbol of that struggle and as a reminder that the fight to eliminate poverty and human exploitation is a fight that goes on in our day. But in 1960 the cause of liberalism cannot content itself with carrying on the fight for human justice and economic liberalism here at home. For here and around the world the fear of war hangs over us every morning and every night. It lies, expressed or silent, in the minds of every American. We cannot banish it by repeating that we are economically first or that we are militarily first, for saying so doesn’t make it so. More will be needed than goodwill missions or talking back to Soviet politicians or increasing the tempo of the arms race. More will be needed than good intentions, for we know where that paving leads.
In Winston Churchill’s words, “We cannot escape our dangers by recoiling from them. We dare not pretend such dangers do not exist.”
And tonight we salute Adlai Stevenson as an eloquent spokesman for the effort to achieve an intelligent foreign policy. Our opponents would like the people to believe that in a time of danger it would be hazardous to change the administration that has brought us to this time of danger. I think it would be hazardous not to change. I think it would be hazardous to continue four more years of stagnation and indifference here at home and abroad, of starving the underpinnings of our national power, including not only our defense but our image abroad as a friend.
This is an important election — in many ways as important as any this century — and I think that the Democratic Party and the Liberal Party here in New York, and those who believe in progress all over the United States, should be associated with us in this great effort. The reason that Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson had influence abroad, and the United States in their time had it, was because they moved this country here at home, because they stood for something here in the United States, for expanding the benefits of our society to our own people, and the people around the world looked to us as a symbol of hope.
I think it is our task to re-create the same atmosphere in our own time. Our national elections have often proved to be the turning point in the course of our country. I am proposing that 1960 be another turning point in the history of the great Republic.
Some pundits are saying it’s 1928 all over again. I say it’s 1932 all over again. I say this is the great opportunity that we will have in our time to move our people and this country and the people of the free world beyond the new frontiers of the 1960s.
http://www.liberalparty.org/JFKLPAcceptance.html
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Sorry guys [meaning brain dead conservatives], your time is up. We have found a better pizza.
Also, how can you cry about debt, on the one hand, and then push Obama, who wants to spend even MORE money?
I’m crying about thievery franklin.
Face it, you don’t object to spending.
But I do franklin
You don’t object to deficit spending.
Yes I do Franklin
You object to spending on the military.
Certainly do franklin when one country spends as much as the next 25 combined something is wrong.
BJ
You are a pathetic human being.
What have your liberal friends done for you?
Nothing!
That is the difference. I do not expect any big “payoff” for what I do. I do it because I believe in it.
You have no power over me.
Hell, you barely have any power over your own sorry life.
Quit making threats. I do take it that your “put you on the mat” comment was rhetorical.
Howeever, some of your other threats sound like blackmail extortion.
You are not very smart. I suggest you talk to an attorney before you do something stupid.
You have liabled and slandered me before, but you don’t have the money to even pay court costs, so I have not taken you to court.
You are bordering on the criminal lately, however, and I am not the least bit affraid of the court room.
I have put lots of people in jail.
Annie
National Defense is the PRIMARY duty of the Federal government.
China spends a higher percentage of GDP on the military than we do.
Russia, too, spends high percentage of GDP on the military.
Hard to prove, since BOTH countries are far more secretive than the United States.
However, your numbers are obviously off.
National Defense is the PRIMARY duty of the Federal government.
says who?
Also, if our expenditures, as a percentage of GDP, do not impress you?
Our GDP sure as heck should!
One minute you tell us our economy sucks, and the next you tell us that military spending, as a percent of GDP, is not a fair measure, since we are so much richer than everyone else? (Yes, I am predicting your next stupid argument)
It is listed FIRST in the Constitution, for one thing.
Also, historically, military spending used to consume the vast majority of spending.
“You have no power over me.”
SURE I do paulie. I know you very well.
And I have innumerably times brought you to self combustion.
Like I just did now?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1461254.stm
By Rob Watson in Washington
A United States Congressional investigation has uncovered spectacular fraud by Pentagon employees using government-issued credit cards.
The amounts of money involved are quite staggering.
Last year alone, according to investigators, Pentagon employees went on a $9bn dollar shopping spree, some of it blatantly fraudulent.
Shopping spree included:
DVD players
Furniture
Jewellry, clothing
Pet supplies
Night club visits
Pizza
Military personnel apparently used government credit cards to buy pizzas, personal computers and furniture.
One army soldier is said to have spent over $3,000 on six visits to some decidedly downmarket nightclubs.
All in all, there are said to have been 500 cases of fraudulent purchases by military personnel in the last two years.
Efficiency drive
The Pentagon, along with other parts of the federal government, started issuing credit cards to employees in the 1990s.
It did so to eliminate bureaucratic red tape to make purchasing more efficient.
Despite this public relations disaster, Pentagon officials have been defending the practice.
They say the idea should not be judged only by the instances of fraud.
I’ll save the per cent of gdp scam for tomorrow. Hey if I have time we’ll look at the inflation rate and the real unemployment numbers.
J R sings…
Paul’s a tiny dancer, dancing for money
“You are bordering on the criminal lately, however, and I am not the least bit affraid of the court room.
I have put lots of people in jail.”
Put on your loin cloth Tarzan.
Here you go.
El-Hady is a terrorist fundraiser.
His charity “Kindhearts” was shut down by the United State government for terrorist fundraising.
Michelle Obama’s name first popped up on terrorist connected El-Hady’s web site, then POOF, Michelles name went down the “memory hole”!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/29729_Michelle_Obamas_Name_Removed_from_Terrorist_Fundraisers_Web_Page_-_Update-_Terror_Fundraisers_Page_Disappears!
More on the Michelle – El-Hady terrorist link
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/29735_Clarification-_Michelle_Obamas_Terrorist_Fundraiser_Friend
“You are not very smart. ”
And yet I make you dance and squirm and jump and jive.
I ALMOST feel like I should take a vote.
Should you stay or should you go?
You ARE amusingly stupid and illustrative. But I just really do not like you.
“I have put lots of people in jail.”
A very scary thought since this man does not know the truth from a hole in the ground, nor his asshole from either – I am also sure, he can’t tell the difference between these latter two constructs.
Paul, you’re always good for some laughs. Please keep it up, I might have to start paying you some money for your silliness, too. I will spare your the Hehehehehehehes! – Ad nauseam… you deserve.
Night.
WERE you the GOP party treasurer Paulie?
HOW the mighty HAVE fallen.
Lil’ ol me so badly mauling has been old you.
If this blog is your attempt to redeem yourself?
You do not come off well.
Perhaps the GOP needs a party clown.
SO Paulie made his way up being a flack and now he is trying to redeem himself with same?
Hell they tossed you aside paulie. It’s a hallmark of the con movement. They use people and then throw them away.
What they toss you a few coins to post here?
Nobody pays me. I take out such as you as a matter of civic duty.
Again, night all…
Is Frankie’s tinfoil hat made from Kroger brand or Reynolds wrap?
As I watched Michelle Obama speak tonight, there were two thoughts that kept going through my mind. The first was the emotional appeal for change in a country going down the tubes for the ordinary person and the response of those in the audience. The word was HOPE, but I don’t recall hearing her use it. It could be seen in the people listening and watching her, the glistening of tearing eyes. (Mine included.) The essence of my thought was just what were the Republicans going to talk about at THEIR convention? They offer no hope, only more of the same. Lost jobs, gas prices, lost homes, lost lives in a war that shouldn’t have been. What do they have left? I asked a friend. She said, “Fear. That’s still all they have going for them.” I told her people had tired of the Fear card. I won’t go into the reasons why.
The second thought was very simple as I watched Michelle’s passion reach into the crowd, multiply and grow.
“We the People…”
There was one moment of her speech where I thought Michelle could have nailed the coffin of the Republicans shut.
“That is why I love this country.”
If only she had then said, “That is why I REALLY love this country.”
Anybody want to see that quote that’s been chopped to death?
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/49244.html
We the people…
In the fall of 1969 I was attending Kansas State College of Pittsburg, now known as Pittsburg State University, Pittsburg, KS. Just into the first month, after a protest in front of the Administration Building, which ended in the burning of the College’s President in effigy, a riot broke out. The African-American/Black population of the school was demanding their own Student Union.
A kid on the other side of the campus was stabbed in the leg while in the shower. A group of black girls tried to catch and light fires to anything in our dorm that would burn. Being made of concrete, there wasn’t much to burn except bulletin boards, curtains, and a few throw rugs. They came down our hallway screaming curses about “whitey” and flooded our floor with water. I remember one of them banging on our dorm room door, yelling, “Come on out, white girl, and get yours!” They hit the girl in the next room with a broom when she dared poke her head out the door and try to speak to them. There was only a small mention in the Eagle/Beacon about the riot, but being there was frightening for a small town girl like me. I wondered at the time if I would forever fear blacks.
40 years later, I’m speechless as I watch how far we have come since that late September evening. I watch as our country readies itself to nominate the first “black” (half white) man for President of the United States, and I am bursting with wonder.
It would be stupid for Michelle or Barak Obama to ignore their race and dance around it. They lived the undoing of the dehumanization of being black and all its ugliness. If alluding to it is playing the race card, there are some sick, twisted individuals out there who need to get a life.
We are all God’s children, are we not?
“Red and yellow, black and white, we are precious in his sight…”
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Franklin
Posted August 25, 2008 at 11:03 pm | Permalink
David
How, exactly, did Michelle prove that she is not a radical?
In fact, Michelle said very little about Barrack.
Michelle had to fix MICHELLE, and I think she kinda did that, with limited success.
I will admit that.
However, Michelle Obama is a radical, a radical trying hard to cover up that fact.
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This from mr radical, who quotes such tinfoil site as texas republicans, the same tinfoil group who gave us bush, the worst president ever. Them quotes, http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/29735_Clarification-_Michelle_Obamas_Terrorist_Fundraiser_Friend , zombie headquarters, and tinfoil specialists. I’m telling ya: Wango is missing one phuked-up semi-sentient.
“Senator John McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama can cause me to vote for McCain, which I will do.
“Those that vote for Barack Obama are Liberals.
“Liberal: An Open Minded individual Whose Brain Has Fallen Out.”
Opening, content free, reflexive flame utterly free of any real thought or merit. Way to kick off the thread, Boxlock.
Reading Franklin’s comments and Texas GOP link, I am once again, as I always am when I read this tool’s posts, of Harry Frankfurt’s definition of a bullsh*tter.
“Both he (the bullsh*tter) and the liar represent themselves falsely as endeavoring to communicate the truth. The success of each depends upon deceiving us about that. But the fact about himself that the liar hides is that he is attempting to lead us away from a correct apprehension of reality; we are not to know that he wants us to believe something he supposes to be false. The fact about himself that the bullsh*tter hides, on the other hand, is that the truth-values of his statements are of no central interest to him; what we are not to understand is that his intention is neither to report the truth nor co conceal it. This does not mean that his speech is anarchically impulsive, but that the motive guiding and controlling it is unconcerned with how the thing about which he speaks truly are.”
Frankfurt’s brilliant essay, which was published as a short book, can be found here. I think it is extremely important for anyone who wants truly honest discourse to read, regardless of their political orientation.
http://www.gwinnettdailyonline.com/articleB5BD6D4417AF444DBD8F9770AA729B26.asp
The merits are unimportant. The result is all that matters (tear down the liberal/Democrat, in this case Barack Obama, by any means necessary, with whatever you can come up with).
Sebelius used our Kansas Tax Money to assist in a National Race. We have to suffer so she can party and vacation. Obama, is weak and Biden refuses to address issues. He only follow insych with stupidity. McCain has the backbone and balls to help us. I am a Democrat, yet I will be voting for McCain. Herbert West 3rd, Candidate for Sheriff, Miami County Kansas. Yea, I was threatened and they said that I needed shot twice because of my size. They further stated, leave the race. Sheriff Kelly and Under-Sheriff Schmidt condones this and has ordered the Deputies not to follow up on report #2008-2227 or they would be fired. He further gave them raises and promotions in the middle of our election. Sebelius refuses to intervene. She supports Republicans and corruption. Sheriff Kelly is at 1-913-294-4444. I am at http://www.HerbertWest3rd.com or west.herb@yahoo.com Democrat Candidate for Sheriff, Miami County Kansas.
Thanks to Paul F. Rosell, I will be checking out this book today:
http://libcat.wichita.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=rules+for+radicals&Search_Code=TALL&PID=7jDID6z_2qu_2TN-Ow8gMx1s&SEQ=20080826075936&CNT=30&HIST=1
I will have to quote from it liberally, here. I expect it will have the same effect as pouring holy water upon the living dead. In other words, I expect Rosell to smoke, shriek, and curl up & die. It will be worth the investment in time.
Just for clarification, wasn’t Alinsky the same guy that Hillary Clinton did her senior thesis on at Wellesley College? Liberal higher education really sucks, doesn’t it?
Pre, The story of your college dorm experience and the differences in where we are today proves understanding is the key. Wars, riots, unease and unrest of all kinds are due to LACK OF understanding. Good to live in the age of enlightenment, isn’t it!?
Looks like Steven is on a mission to gain even more understanding! It will be a sacrifice to read that propaganda. I will look forward to what you have to share, Steven.
Hey Clinton, you lost.. GO AWAY.
And Nancy Pisslosi, I hope you croak.
Wow, paulie really put on a show last night? Was it the start of the convention that sent him into convulsions? Poodle dancing at it’s finest.
“You guys save us lots of money.
I just post to see what works, and pass along the results and information.”
heheheheheh. HEE HEE HEEE. Does anyone really think paulie ever reports back to wingnut central and says “they laughed my ass outa the blog. They laughed so hard they couldnt type”?
Naaaaawwww. Even paulie cant take that much humiliation. “Yes masters, I tried, but they ignored me or laughed at me. Please sent me more test material.”
Ya know, the good news is, if the laughable stuff paulie posts is the best the ‘pukes can do?
Say hello to President Obama.
I think the other funny part is that not even the other resident wingnuts could or would defend paulie and his nonsense. I bet they were embarassed for him.
Agnatha posted August 26, 2008 at 7:09 am |
“…. Opening, content free, reflexive flame utterly free of any real thought or merit. Way to kick off the thread, Boxlock.”
Wow, glad you liked it, I guess I accomplished my purpose.
I didn’t think what is essentially a very primitive, spineless, jawless fish could form an opinion, even a bad, baseless one.
Got ya….jawless fish.
Tonight, Hillary Clinton will teach the party what you all missed – by throwing her to the wolves. Had we counted all states votes, we would be having 8 more years of prosperity under another experienced and politically savy Clinton.
Hillary with Bill at her side will remind you ALL of what we once had, and could have had again.
Instead of substance you went with style. Instead of experience in dealing with politicians, world leaders, and the American people, you went with a Chicago hoodlum.
Just listen to Hillary. She will try to heal the wound, but listen carefully to what could have been.
Still can if the delegates stand with her and we count fifty states – not forty-eight.
Linda
Dim Wit, lol
“Rules for Radicals” the book that Steven has decided to read, is a LIBERAL book.
Author Saul Alinsky taught COMMUNISTS how to “organize” the masses.
Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama and other Democrats have studied the Alinsky method and used it.
Yes, the book that Steven is going to read is
“propaganda” but it is extreme LIBERAL propaganda.
An “neighborhood organizers” job is to, “rub raw the resentments of the group” — Saul Alinsky, hero of Obama.
Ya, that will bring us all together!
Notice, blog readers.
The left says that I am lying.
However, not even once, has anyone shown us that anything I said is not true.
This is a Blog. OF COURSE there are circumstances, “nuance” and context to be taken into account. Of COURSE there are two sides to every story.
However? Liberals do not try to tell “their side” of the story, since they have no factual defense.
Instead, they call me names and call me a “liar” never being specific about that charge.
David B:
However, I can PROVE one of you liberals is wrong:
“DavidB
Posted August 25, 2008 at 10:14 pm | Permalink
Heeheehee. Obama now lied about where he was??? LOL. He said he was in Kansas City – twice! I heard it with my own ears!!! LOL He did not say Saint Louis!
What weird near parallel universe does that guy live in?”
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080826/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_obama_wife
“Anyone who travels as much as Obama does can get confused about where they are on any given night, and Obama is no exception. He mistakenly said he had watched the speech at the home of a St. Louis family — despite the cue card affixed to the camera as a reminder that he was actually 230 miles away in Kansas City, Mo., where had scheduled a campaign appearance Tuesday.
Sensing the flub, 7-year-old Sasha apparently was prompted to ask: “Daddy, what city are you in?”
“I’m in Kansas City, sweetie.”
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You libs would be calling McCain “senile” if he did this, admit it!
The Democratic National Convention rolls on, and evidently more than a few anti-abortion activists are rockin’ and rollin’ along with it.
This morning, I observed a video statement from a young woman who survived a second-trimester abortion. How could I fail to be moved by this? I would ask.
I am hardly an uncaring woman, nor a stupid one.
However, I fail to understand how Obama is the villain here. He did not force this young lady’s parents to initially choose abortion; moreover, he did not preclude her survival. I know of no pro-choice individual who would say, “She shouldn’t have lived; her life is meaningless.”
Traversing my sights downward, I also observed a heartwarming picture of a former nurse who deemed aborting women “wimps” on her delightful blog some months back. I could be mean; I could be critical; hell, I could be downright truthful, but I’ll take the high road. I’ll be true to my gender. I’ll turn over a new fig leaf (if she will).
Let me close with this, though: Some months back, a young lady who evidently escaped being a late-term abortion at Dr. Tiller’s Clinic and her self-sacrificing mother visited Wichita. On that day, I happened to drive by the Clinic, as I realized I had lived here for 3 years and had never done so.
Two days later, I realized I had briefly locked eyes with this beautiful young woman. She and her mother had been stationed outside the Clinic that day.
For a myriad of reasons, obviously, I was moved by this. However, if I had seen some former medical practitioner carrying a sign proclaiming me and millions of others “wimps” – I’d have backed up me hooptie and fled the scene. And I’d never have seen a lovely young lady and been moved by her story.
Note to anti-abortion activists: You’ll accomplish far more by these sorts of insights than dumb-a$$ insults. Besides, Big Bertha’s no wimp. I don’t think Jilly could have done what I did two months ago.
She wouldn’t have had the ova-cojones.
And that’s my salvo for today……………
The link following shows the Report Card for the two candidates. Excellently done!
http://savecalifornia.com/PresidentialReportCard.pdf
It pretty well speaks for itself
All of the Clinton sore-loser-part jumpers who are voting for McCain are only doing so for one of two reasons: they like the way the economy, education, health care, etc. has been the past eight years OR they are simply being spiteful because Hillary did not WIN the nomination. Either way, they’ll be the ones complaining about everything if McBush is elected. Actually, I feel sorry for them. It also shows that they were not really supporters of Hillary, either….they are/were confused and thought they were voting for Bill again. YEAH, I SAID IT!!!
Gallup Daily: No Bounce for Obama in Post-Biden Tracking
McCain creeps ahead, 46% to 44%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/109834/Gallup-Daily-Bounce-Obama-Post-Biden-Tracking.aspx
Ah-oh, what’s going on….think folks see through the “CHANGE”?