Hillary Clinton’s name will be placed in nomination at the Democratic convention, according to the campaigns of Clinton and Barack Obama. Obama said in a statement that nominating Clinton would honor her historic campaign and “help us celebrate this defining moment in our history and bring the party together in a strong, united fashion.” But commentators have been complaining this week that Clinton is trying to take over the convention. Maureen Dowd wrote that Bill and Hillary Clinton have made the convention “all about them — their dissatisfaction and revisionism and barely disguised desire to see him (Obama) fail.” E.J. Dionne wrote that someone needs to tell Democrats to “STOP IT!”
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I don’t know what to say about Maureen Dowd that would be printable here. Let’s just say I think she really needs to get… a hobby.
Honoring Hillary Clinton and her historic campaign is the appropriate thing to do, and I think it’s a sign of party unity that the Obama campaign recognized this.
I’m sure our conservative friends will be weighing in on this, but I’ll let their relative maturity levels speak for themselves.
I want to see the lady with the ponderous thighs, stroll across the stage one mo’ time. :D
(chortles)
Hillary Clinton’s name will be placed in nomination at the Democratic convention,
Are you shittin me? Her name will be on the ballot?
Jesus jumped up you just garaunteed a McCain win. How stupid can you get? The grand canyon is a crack compaired to the rift that will be exposed at the convention.
“Clinton will be nominated; is she taking over?”
Things CAN happen. I can hope.
This is just as I said months ago that it would be. Political theater at its highest.
Clinton’s supporters are acknowledged and then invited.
Still, a convention floor is a dynamic place…
Can ya tell that MY hope does NOT come from Obama?
Political theater at its highest.
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And it is a Comedy!!!
“I think it’s a sign of party unity that the Obama campaign recognized this.”
Oh, please. Make it right in your own mind. Why did it take Barak Hussein Obama so long to get “unified”? This was forced down his throat.
I can hardly wait for this convention.
“Can’t wait for ‘68 in ‘08″
ATTICA ATTICA ATTICA
You cons do things differently.
YOUR side of politics races to quickly pick a winner.
Congratulations! John McCain!
This is a significant historical event. A woman and a not white man are for the first time in history in reach of Presidential nomination.
The moment deserves to be lived in and not rushed over. Too many have waited too long to just rush past it.
As I was saying…
I read what I just posted and realized that what I was trying to say would be lost on most cons anyway.
I don’t think this is going to heal the rift- Obama is still rejecting Hillary. She had extended the offer of the VP if she had won. It was the right thing to do, and Obama keeps trying to throw half the party under the bus. And for what?
It is selfishness that he doesn’t want a VP qualified to run the country. I will withhold my vote.
It is selfishness that he doesn’t want a VP qualified to run the country. I will withhold my vote.
My point exactly. Let there be a floor vote. You want to see some pissed off people? Bad call puttng her on the ballot. This will just get that much more ugly.
Obama’s days are now numbered.
Hill will be Prez.
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That’s a link to a couple of free Obama shirts on craigslist for anyone interested.
Of course, I’m not. But there it is.
It will be interesting to watch the convention play out.
When was the last time we could say that?
Political mama you are correct that the nicety would be to offer Hillary the VP. But she would be wasted in what that job usually is.
For the Obama supporters who are angry or nervous over this?
I give you John Edwards. What if we were STUCK with him as a nominee?
I suspect the entire thing will be well choreographed: her name will be placed in nomination; she will, after the floor demonstrations cease, appear at the podium and, thanking her supporters, demur, and move that Senator Obama be nominated by acclamation; the inevitable floor demonstration will occur; there will then be a resounding affirmation from the crowd; and that will be that.
I’ve seen her be more gracious since suspending her campaign (giving her support to Obama, or whatever I should call it!) than even before. I think she will be a well-spoken, enthusiastic supporter of a Democratic Party win. She will be generous, respectful, and understand the impact of her influence. Language can heal and she is a leader who will use exactly the words needed.
I’m glad she is going to have a spotlight. She earned it! I have confidence she will use that spotlight for good.
I’d argue also that Obama needs this.
This will be the FIRST time he has been in a room with a large crowd that is not already in love with him.
I suspect the entire thing will be well choreographed: her name will be placed in nomination; she will, after the floor demonstrations cease, appear at the podium and, thanking her supporters, demur, and move that Senator Obama be nominated by acclamation; the inevitable floor demonstration will occur; there will then be a resounding affirmation from the crowd; and that will be that.
Most likely.
Of course, one can never know what some on the floor may do. One can only hope. I’ll agree with JR, amazingly. The Republican convention holds no drama, save a VP choice, as is usually the case in both parties. The Dems have at least the possibility of drama. One can only hope.
Operation Chaos may yet still bear some fruit . . .
“This will just get that much more ugly.”
But, an ugly that will be beautiful to watch.
“Operation Chaos may yet still bear some fruit . . ”
We can only hope, and from past Dems conventions I’d say there’s a pretty good shot at chaos.
If she lets a floor vote play out, she will have dug her own political grave.
It has been many years since there was any real drama or contest at a convention of either party. Of course there have been rumors of dissent, media driven hype and all, but no real contests. Some minor bickering about “planks” in a “platform” but nothing of substance. This could actually make a convention interesting to watch for a change.
Anyone else remember back in the 60’s when it would take more than one ballot, sometimes all night, before a candidate was chosen?
I was at the Demo National Convention in San Francisco in 2004 and it was about as borrring as they can get..at least on the floor. The parties and hospitality rooms in SF were pretty good!
Correction…Demo Convention in 1984.
I’ve actually changed my mind on this.
I think he should choose Hillary as Vice President.
It would be a surprise move that would be welcomed as win-win by just about everybody except for us hard-core leftists.
And what are we gonna do, vote for “More War McCain”?
Not likely . . .
The essential thing is that we win.
As Michael Moore pointed out recently, the Democrats are so good as losing, they even lose when they actually win: Al Gore in 2000.
Second place means four more years of the Bush nightmare.
It must not happen . . . by any means necessary.
Sigh, one thought keeps coming to mind, “the Democratic have a natural ability to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory”. I have to admit there is would be no difference between a H. Clinton presidency and a McCain Presidency. None what so ever, it keeps being said that it is Obama’s to lose. He may be deciding to forfeit the presidency. Saying it is being done to recognize the specialty of the Hillary campaign and how close she came. It like saying that until some one tells you how special it would be to win the lottery. The winner may not notice.
Obama read Saul Alinsky.
Clinton read Saul Alinsky.
Who will do the best job, following their Marxist hero?
Goodness, Franklin, there are many who read Saul Alinsky in college in a course or two; reading Alinsky does not make one a Marxist. I guess I’m a Marxist because I read Das Kapital in Western Civilization while a Freshman in college, then. Oh, wait, that cannot be; I read Milton Friedman also in the same class, so I’m a monetarist. Or maybe I’m a Marxist monetarist. Confused, that’s what I am.
Actually, what everybody forgets is that Clinton criticised Alinsky’s tactics.
I just wish she would have been more like the guy.
I also read Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman, Franklin.
Does that mean I’m a right-wing ideologue?
But Capn, according to Franklin, just reading Alinsky makes one a Marxist. I’m aware that she criticized Alinsky’s tactics in her thesis, a link to which I’m sure will be appearing any time now.
I think he should choose Hillary as Vice President.
She won’t take the job, even if offered.
And he won’t offer. Would you want Bill sculking around the White House, looking for a good intern?
Without regard to her spouse, Hillary won’t take the job if offered; she has higher aspirations. If my hypothesis that regardless of who wins the 2008 Presidential election, he (now) will be a one-term president proves correct, she won’t want to be on the losing side in 2012 if Obama wins in 2008; and wants to be positioned to run in 2012, if McCain wins.
I read Moby Dick, Burma Shave signs and Mad magazine; am I dooomed?
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Posted August 14, 2008 at 3:49 pm | Permalink
I read Moby Dick, Burma Shave signs and Mad magazine; am I dooomed?
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No, Mad Magazine had that fold-in that if done correctly raised your IQ points significantly. :)
Obama shines at conventions. Look for a larg leap in the polls. Also, look for mccain to come out with some cheap(er) shots ads., to try and detract.
Has John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) come up with a commercial or a message that presents a reason to vote for him?
Nope.
It’s all negative. It’s all “don’t vote for the young, popular, inspiring, leader.”
“My face has been chewed up by melanoma and I approved this message.”
None of the CONs on this forum have come up with any basis for supporting McC*nt; only thinly-veiled racism and boilerplate rants about how Democrats are all Marxists and/or Muslims.
I would tend to agree with Monkey. I can’t think of a lot of good reasons to vote for McCain.
But there are a lot of good ones not vote for the young and woefully inexperience, but clean and articulate, Obama.
“Hillary won’t take the job if offered; she has higher aspirations.”
Good, then all the more reason to offer.
Obama can say, “hey, I tried . . . ” and then pick the person he really wants.
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As for McCain’s “experience,” outlander is right. McCain has never held a non-government job in his life. He’s been in Washington longer than dirt.
If that’s what you call “experience,” then by all means, go for it.
McCadaver.
To bad she wasnt at the campaign headquarters yesterday
“outlander” admits –
“…I can’t think of a lot of good reasons to vote for McCain.
But there are a lot of good ones not vote for the young and woefully inexperience, but clean and articulate, Obama.”
We’ve all seen the consequences of Republic Party “experience.” (The Big) Dick Cheney had loads of experience. Donald Rumsfeld was experienced. John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) has experience being wrong on the economy, wrong on Iraq, wrong on energy.
Yeah. That’s useful experience.
All you seem to have, “outlander” is negativity toward an uppity n*gger.
At least you’re honest about it.
Will bush and cheney even get an invite?
Wan’t the biggest portion of his military experience gained in a cell?
“The Republican convention holds no drama”
Oh I don’t know that I’d be ready to say that.
To be sure there will be plenty of party police.
Those Ron Paul folks are….determined. There are probably a few moles in place. I’m sure the con convention won’t go without incident.
Good assessment Vaughn.
I tend to agree.
Hillary is no quitter. And it’s hard for a person like that to lose.
But thing is?
I really don’t know why ANYONE wants the job given the mess at hand. The next President has so much to overcome from the start that they are almost fated to fail. Any honeymoon at all will be quite short.
Senator Clinton may have come to realize this on reflection.
“We’ve all seen the consequences of Republic Party “experience.” (The Big) Dick Cheney had loads of experience. Donald Rumsfeld was experienced.”
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Monkey Logic: A has experience. A does mediocre job. Therefore experience is bad.
BTW Monkey, you sure do like to use the “N” word don’t you? You use it way more than anyone else here. Anyone else notice that?
Pretty racist of you.
My Gore Hypothesis explains it all.
Hillary has been green lighted to reopen this wound. Why?
Because Barry is not THE ONE.
Neither is Hillary.
Al Gore comes to save the day.
Google “green gornet”
I have it all on my webpage.
Look up and smile Democrats, your redemption draweth nigh.
Brownlee plays it far too safe. Not guts, no glory.
My post on this turn of events is anything but safe.
Thank God I am right.
And if right, should probably have Brownlee’s j.o.b.
I’d vote for Hillary Clinton, Obama doesn’t seem to want to address alot of issues or at the most side step them during campaign speeches, and McCain, well can the U.S. for once be led by a person who DOESN’T qualify for the senior citizens discount?. Americas racist ideology will definitely play a factor in the November elections.
great point of view