But let’s not shut off the spigot before alternative energy is viable.

Ben
When Kennedy said we would go to the moon, Kennedy did not tell people to quit using gasoline.
When the Wright brothers learned to fly, they did not ask for automobiles to be outlawed.
When Henry Ford started building cars, he did not ask for horses to be outlawed.

Your analogy fails the logic test.

Do whatever the hell you want to do, Ben, just quit telling the rest of us what we can and can not do!
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That thinking is what got us into this trouble in the first place. No one is saying don’t use oil. What we ARE saying is get off the oil teat and find find workable alternatives. If we don’t, and the oil is gone, then what, we will be stuck back in the stone age. I, for one, want to leave our future generations a better place than what we have now. You want to leave them empty oil reserves.

Damn, you republicans simply cant think outside the box at all. And you have the balls to tell us to shut up? As I said many times: There is a major problem with the sciences in this country, and it’s you people that are trying to stamping out those who want to change that. You would be happy with smog, burning rivers, and polluted land. And if it wasn’t for us, you would still have them in spades.

Mwanwhile we also did fundamental research such as that I linked above (7:47 pm) that helped improve our understanding of the interactions between small molecules (like H2O, O2, H2, CO) and metal surfaces. That, in turn, helps give a foundation for some of the further work we see today including catalytic reactions.

Go ahead and totally deplete our remaining oil. Then the problem will just be that much worse.

NO ONE is listening to you.

“When Henry Ford started building cars, he did not ask for horses to be outlawed.”

No but the horse and tack industry DID get several laws in to try and kill the automobile.

They failed.

So will you.

Your analogy fails the logic test.

Do whatever the hell you want to do, Ben, just quit telling the rest of us what we can and can not do!

Libs, especially those who do not want to drill for oil, are EGGHEADS!

I am glad you walked into this trap, the “don’t drill” mentality is killing the Democrats:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Yjc3YzNkMWY2ZmMxY2M2MmQzZWRlNzE4MDA3ZWJkMjc=

By the way, Obama has received over $400,000.00 from oil executives.

Obama will go for more drilling than Pelosi wants, but not as much as we need.

Drill here, drill now, or vote Republican and drill next year!

Go up to the Cosmosphere in Hutch. Watch the film of the rockets exploding on the launch pad as you also hear JFK saying we will go to the moon. Back then we believed in America and our ability to accomplish great things. No more I guess …

Well, the energy situation in this country is broke, and it needs serious fixing. Oil ain’t the long term answer by a long shot.

Cobalt bonding to hydride-hydrogen from a water source:

http://www.rsc.org/publishing/journals/article.asp?doi=C39750000684

Cobalt bonding to di-oxygen:

http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/inocaj/1979/18/i01/f-pdf/f_ic50191a027.pdf

Just shows that basic academic research just might have value.

“The stone age did not end because they taxed stones.

The stone age did not end because they outlawed stones.

Henry Ford did not outlaw horses.

The Wright Brothers did not outlaw the automobile.

I am all in favor of alternatives.

However, stop messing with what we ALREADY have!”

Quite simply brilliant!!! And oh so true an observation.

BMW is about to accelerate its jump into the hydrogen game.

The automaker announced on Tuesday that it would start rolling out hydrogen-fueled vehicles within two years, not the four-year window that had been previously announced. The vehicles will have two fuel tanks, one for hydrogen and one for standard gasoline.

The 7-Series will be the first group of cars to sport the new hydrogen capability. The entire BWM line will be hydrogen-powered eventually.

This announcement comes on the heels of BMW’s decision to power its V12 engine with liquid hydrogen and the decision of other automakers to embrace water-emitting hydrogen as a vehicle fuel.
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California was delivered six hydrogen powered cars this year. They are limited to very select areas as there are only a few hydrogen stations. But it’s a major start, and, in my opinion, ranks with the public availability of the gas powered engine in the form of the automobile.

Not enough room on the roof, put them on a south facing wall as well. Keep the heat off the house same time you produce energy.
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Put water filled tubes behind the panels, and use it to heat the house in winter. Temp stable solar panels would heat the water in winter.

Here’s another one: http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?keyword=hydrogen+storage

Some of the new developments exceed what the standards set by the government call for. While much still needs to be worked out, the technology is there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_embrittlement

Electric cars and Hydrogen powered cars, recharged by the excess home stored energy, and a massive conservation program, and there would be no loss of quality in everyday life. Pipe dream? I think not.

O, and KFG is correct: Pickens whole project revolves around the aquifer, and his controlling it so he can pipe it to Dallas-Fort Worth. Links abound . . . find them.

I don’t have solar replacing the grid at this point – just supplementing it.

I’ve ‘invested’ in six wells, four dry or not feasable. Sold my interest in the producers within a month. Many investers do. One went dry within a year, the other on the Arbucle near Parsons is still producing.

All in all, I’m about even in my great oil venture, only because of the tax code though. If you look at the holes currentl being punch in Kansas today, ‘big oil’ has very little to do with them. Mostly little guys, like me, investing.

:)