What if politicians pandered to economists?

farmmoneyPoliticians pander to various voting groups. But what if they pandered to economists? What is it that economists would want to hear? N. Gregory Mankiw, a Harvard University professor of economics who has advised President Bush and Mitt Romney, came up an eight-point platform based on his discussions with colleagues and polls of his profession. The eight policies: Support free trade, oppose farm subsidies, leave oil companies and speculators alone, tax the use of energy, raise the retirement age, invite more skilled immigrants, liberalize drug policy, raise funds for economic research.

26 Comments

  1. Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    It wouldn’t work for McCain. He has trouble finding economists to back his economic plan.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/11/mccains-list-of-300-econo_n_112147.html

  2. JWink
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    I advise Mr. Mankiw to toss all of his radical ideas in the county landfill and change the spelling of his name so it can be pronounced by the average person.

  3. Regular
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    I’m guessing it’s pronounced Mank (’ev’) or Mankee.

    As far as Mankiw’s views on economics goes, I imagine there is a different view for each economists. PhD’s are educated to establish their own theories through diligent research and their own philosophical view of the world.

    Or, he could be a kook. Regardless, the topic sucks.

  4. Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    Ev was there. It was quite expensive there but found the county landfill. We were assured that it is usually much much nicer so I shall have to return! So, I am now in the county landfill and I think its a great place, despite the bad press its given about being dangerous etc.

  5. Posted July 22, 2008 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    More get the rich richer on the backs of everyone else.

  6. Heckler
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    B.J.

    No worries for you then. Can’t get rich off of someone sitting on their ass.

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    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:03 am | Permalink

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  8. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Can’t get rich off of someone sitting on their ass.

    Three generations of Bushes would beg to differ.

  9. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Yeah Rage, but dont forget the walkers and the pierce families…

  10. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    The List sounds a little schizophrenic to me.

    “oppose farm subsidies, leave oil companies and speculators alone”

    I’m all for ending farm subsidies as long as that includes the ethanol subsidies. And the irrigation subsidies.

    And then leave the speculators and oil companies alone? Heheheheheheh.

    News flash. It’s the speculators who have created the commodities bubble.

    And leaving the oil companies alone will ensure an unpotable water supply for eternity…

    Not to mention tar beaches like those along the western Gulf Coast.

    Jesus, even ANIMALS dont foul their own nests!

  11. TheBorgHunter
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    “No worries for you then. Can’t get rich off of someone sitting on their ass.”

    Good one Heckler. That’s exactly what it’s all about. There are those who are happy to let others work so they can still get the same thing. Socialism breeds that kind of attitude.

    There is a great book called Atlas Shrugged written by Ayn Rand in 1957 and discusses this very idea. She is a woman of character and strenght. She believes that if a person works hard and builds a business, he should be able to enjoy it. However, her main point is that the satisfaction comes in the work itself. I don’t think your average socialist can quite get that.

    Taking pride in your work is a lost art, what a shame. Just remember when government steps in, things slow to a crawl. And they never take responsibility for their own action or inaction.

  12. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    The cultic flaw in Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism is not in the
    use of reason, or in the emphasis on individuality, or in the belief
    that humans are self motivated, or in the conviction that capitalism is
    the ideal system. The fallacy in Objectivism is the belief that absolute
    knowledge and final Truths are attainable through reason, and therefore
    there can be absolute right and wrong knowledge, and absolute moral and
    immoral thought and action. For Objectivists, once a principle has been
    discovered through reason to be True, that is the end of the discussion.
    If you disagree with the principle, then your reasoning is flawed. If
    your reasoning is flawed it can be corrected, but if it is not, you
    remain flawed and do not belong in the group. Excommunication is the
    final step for such unreformed heretics.

  13. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    P.S. I see the italicized link ain’t so obvious (oh well).

    BTW, I find it deliciously ironic that “BorgHunter” advocates the hive-mind mentality of Rand’s disciples.

  14. TheBorgHunter
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Rage, where did you get your information? Have you actually read the book or did you just to to the Ayn Rand Institute?

    I have news for you. The Institute no longer agrees with Ayn Rand’s ideas. I read their little pamphlet that came with the book and objectivism is not what Atlas Shrugged is about. They claim it to be but it is not.

    It is about that drive in a person that wants them to do their best and to succeed. Taking pride in what you have accomplished. I have one kid, who is a hard worker and even when she doesn’t get praise from others, she does it because she is determined. As for my son, he is just the opposite. If he feels he is the only one doing something then he is being wronged and shouldn’t have to do it. It is a struggle just to get him to do something. By the way, they are twins.

    I am sure if you were an employer, you would prefer an employee who wanted to work hard and not one who was busy looking at what others don’t have to do. In her book, society gets to a point where they are too busy looking at what others don’t have to do to get something so they feel why should they work too hard either.

  15. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    The Institute no longer agrees with Ayn Rand’s ideas.

    Gee, that’s nice. When did they change their position?

  16. george
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Tax energy of course, if it breathes tax it. Don’t tax me,tax the other guy. Politicians are low down on the pecking order. Please don’t try to fix anything.

  17. Posted July 22, 2008 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Rage in response to you question: Gee, that’s nice. When did they change their position?

    How would I know. I haven’t been around that long. Of course you haven’t answered my question yet. Have you read the book? I’m guessing no. Am I right? It’s amazing how some think they can become experts on what a book says when they haven’t even read it yet. What’s the problem, is it too complicated for you to read? Too many pages? Or are you just lazy and let others do the reading and thinking for you?

  18. beber
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Ann Randy’s books were about lust.

  19. Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    beber, it’s Ayn Rand. I don’t know about her other books but Atlas Shrugged is not about lust. It is very much about businesses and the men that run them. Do any of you read? Or are you just too busy reading your daily dose of common blogs?

  20. Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    “I have one kid, who is a hard worker and even when she doesn’t get praise from others, she does it because she is determined”

    Yeah, she’ll make a real good hooker. Or maybe a mid manager.

  21. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Hey Coward: Open Thread-

    BLUEJAY JAY JAY JAY (internet echo), now it is really way past dawn……was your war with me on this blog or somewhere else…..or on a different dawn….by dawn did you mean the soap or first thing in the morning????

  22. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    #
    BlueJay
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    “I have one kid, who is a hard worker and even when she doesn’t get praise from others, she does it because she is determined”

    Yeah, she’ll make a real good hooker. Or maybe a mid manager.
    —-
    your’s will make a “dandy” inmate BJ..

  23. Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Do you imagine I have not been stalked before “Auntie”?

    Follow me around and bite my ankles. I really don’t care.

    But until you tell us your usual nic? You’re just the paparazzi. I’ll take you apart over on the open. Could be fun.

  24. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    You called me out, I answered hours ago, you were a no show. Coward, just like your meet-ups you call. Pah-thetic!

  25. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    Do you imagine I have not been stalked before “Auntie”?
    —–
    No, I would guess “monitored” or “evaluated” would better describe what you “have been”, in medical terms.

  26. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Hank was right about you BlueJay, your a “fluffer”. All fluff and no tough.