nice post about this…..

All opinions are as good and as useless as the next!

Franklin reveals once again that there is no limit to his credulity when it comes to claims that he wants to be true because they validate his world view.

Kenneth E. Lamb. This guy.

http://www.kennethelamb.com/page2.htm

[FE]And he is so well respected and has such an extensive background as a journalist [/FE] that if you enter the name Kenneth Lamb on Google…the first thing you come across is a link the very dubious and laughable post Franklin links to. Mr. Lamb’s claim to national fame indeed.

Let’s look at Mr. Lamb’s post.

1) Lamb has documented nothing except innuendo. The basis for his claim is that the paternal side of Obama’s family have “Arab” names (therefore they must be Arab). Apparently, names are the only basis for Lamb’s calculations of 44%. It’s laughable on its face.

2) Look at the post Franklin links to, and you will note that most of the post is Lamb’s discussion (that’s putting it kindly, it is actually ranting) about Obama’s dishonestly based on the premise that his claim is true.

3) Both the “arabs” Lamb refers to and “African Blacks” are, in fact, people who reside in Africa. The intermarriage and mating arising from the fact of simple proximity makes absolute claims about “arab” versus “black” utterly laughable, as anyone who is even remotely familiar with the region and particularly northern sub-Saharan African would know. The fact of the matter is, the so called “black” status of people is and continues to be based on their degree of resemblance to dark skinned Africans, and the genetic and ethnic diversity of that continent, even among varied peoples that an American (whether “white” or “black”) would simply recognize as “black”. Both Barack Obama and his Kenyan family, including his biological father, would be so recognized, middle and last names aside.

4) Kenneth Lamb’s and Franklin’s claims are blatantly and virulently racist. The reason why it is virulently racist is that it assumes that the degree of a person’s “Arabness” verses “African blackness” can be easily quantified (and utterly absurd claim). It is also virulently racist because it presumes that anyone who makes a claim about their heritage needs to be able to calculate the percentate of their “race” or be proven a liar. And yet, I really don’t think the racism in and of itself is important to Franklin (in fact, I believe him when he says that he would vote and has voted for people of both obvious “Black” or “Arab” descent if they agree with him). Franklin’s basis is, in fact, agreement with him. However, he doesn’t stop there. If someone who is a “liberal democrat” is running for the presidency, then not only are they politically wrong, but any claim made about them that proves that they are dishonest liars must be true. Again, the very essence of being a bullsh*tting shill.

I thought this was worth reposting. This was Franklin’s original response to calls of bullsh*t.

“Here is a liberal who agrees with me, on this much of my argument, Obama is more Arab than he is Black:

http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/42131?tstart=0

“Well, ok, it is a post on Oprah’s Blog, so I can not be sure it is a liberal post (Agatha: I read it, it is not), but — I would think Oprah would delete it, if she found it wrong or offensive (Agnatha: Yes, I am sure that Oprah Winfrey micromanages her blog, so anything that is left in it must be something that she did not find wrong or offensive).

“I have been saying all along, Obama is:

50% White
44% Arab
6% Black”

Again, the claim that such a percentage can be so easily calculated based on names or for that matter anything is in and of itself outrageously racist. Secondly, note how Franklin moves from the presumption of “Oprah didn’t delete it so it must not be wrong” to “See? Like I said, this claim is true”.

And that is the extent of Franklin’s scholarship, and the level of evidence that he seems to think is really satisfactory.

Pathetic.

Tsk, tsk, can’t even face up to the fact that his “story” was just a rumor spread by a Limbaugh wannabe from Pensacola.

He said it was “fact” but it was really just a stinking turd that he pulled out of the ass of just another right wing radio talk show host.

Poor Paulie – shamed once again.

We’ll miss you Rossell. Well, not really, but it sounded good.

Max said something I can use?

Your statement there Max, describes VERY well some of the men in the pic up top.

SOME of those men like Adams and Franklin and Jefferson were great visionaries on a venture to build something new.

Others? Well they didn’t like answering to the King because they themselves wanted to be Kings in their own little fiefs. They only joined the cause for independence when they were reassured they would get to keep their slavery and their money.

Where is your proof?

At a fireworks tent last night, I SAW a guy approach the tent from outside, reach into the tent and grab a 60 dollar case of fireworks. He then casually walked back to the car that was waiting, lights off, by the road. He jumped in the passenger side of the car which sped away.

It all went down so slick I wasn’t sure I was seeing it!

I COULD have got the license number of the car.

But hey, they weren’t MY fireworks.

I guess paulie was thwarting evildoers elsewhere.
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There’s personal responsibility for ya. Great patriot BJ stands by and watches a crime and DOES NOTHING!

Then he slams Paulie, for what?

WTF?

BJ, savin the world for all of us. Stepping out on a limb for nobody but himself.

Had BJ been around in 1776, he would have cowered beneath the tails of a Redcoat.

Come on, you made the claim, now back it up………..

But, I will provide “back up” for my claim as soon as you provide back up for your claim that Obama is 44% Arab.

Do ya’ mean like 44%?

A number like that?

“Four years ago there were about as many Democrats (35%) as Republicans (33%) in the 12 states where the voting was closest in 2004, and the balance was similar in the 2000 election cycle. But so far in 2008, Democrats hold a substantial 38% to 27% identification advantage in these states.”

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/773/fewer-voters-identify-as-republicans

At a fireworks tent last night, I SAW a guy approach the tent from outside, reach into the tent and grab a 60 dollar case of fireworks. He then casually walked back to the car that was waiting, lights off, by the road. He jumped in the passenger side of the car which sped away.

It all went down so slick I wasn’t sure I was seeing it!

I COULD have got the license number of the car.

But hey, they weren’t MY fireworks.

I guess paulie was thwarting evildoers elsewhere.

Or perhaps trying to get Senator Obama’s racial makeup down to the 1/16ths?

And you and McCluer are the worst offenders, Rossell.

Still waiting for genealogical proof from you that Obama is 44% Arab.

………………. as usual.