Rush Limbaugh will be on the air for at least eight more years, and he’ll get paid a fortune for it: more than $400 million, including a $100 million signing bonus, according to a new deal he signed this week. After nearly 20 years in national syndication, Limbaugh still attracts a huge audience - nearly 20 million weekly listeners.
The New York Times magazine has a long profile of Limbaugh. It notes how he is an American icon, but that his fans and critics don’t agree on what he is iconic for. The article reports: “Serious people have called him a serial liar and a moral philosopher, a partisan hack and a public intellectual, nothing more than a radio windbag and nothing less than the heart of the Republican Party.”
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Uh, how about we reverse that and “flush rush”?
Since Rush is the “heart of the Republican Party”, perhaps a heart transplant is needed.
What exactly is meant ’serious people’?
Gimme a break.
“nearly 20 million weekly listeners.”
—–
And, they walk among us.
“nearly 20 million weekly listeners.”
the 28%ers
“And, they walk among us.”
I dunno Linda. Maybe they slither among us?
I read recently that went down to 24%. ANY number is more frightening to me than so-called terrorists.
“nearly 20 million weekly listeners”
Mostly Republican welfare queens and the good ol’ boys that chew the
morphine patches given to ‘em by the VA
Well, he must be making a pile of money for his syndicators, or they wouldn;t be paying him so much. Kinda like sports guys I guess. Me, I would talk for at least twice as long for at least half as much ( or much, much, less)
It’s just sad that this is the state of so many, who listen to Rush as if he is some sort of God.
And we wonder why people walk over people who are dying on the streets. Because people like Rush say ‘they need to help themselves’.
If this is the face of Republican humanity, you all really need to take a hard look at yourselves.
The agenda of resident Limbaugh:
“1. Open the continental shelf to drilling. Ditto the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
“2. Establish a 17 percent flat tax.
“3. Privatize Social Security.
“4. Give parents school vouchers to break the monopoly of public education.
“5. Revoke Jimmy Carter’s passport while he is out of the country.
“6. Abandon all government policies based on the hoax of man-made global warming.
“No. 5 was a joke. I think.”
Man, I am telling you, that New York Times magazine article was much MORE than I ever cared to know about Limbaugh.
Should have been “president” Limbaugh.
The one thing left out of the linked article was the guy did not ask Rush his recommendations for the choice destinations on the pedophile tour circut.
Rush gets $400,000,000 and Air America couldn’t get 400 (listners or dollars). It’s understandable.
One of the TRULY evil people in this world.
He lies to millions of morons and gets them to vote against their own best interests and in favor of his. I wish he could take his listeners and they could go start their own country and make him their king.
$400 Million?!
That’ll
buyrent him a lot of virgin boys in the Dominican Republic.He didn’t get those listeners on his own.
Some yes. But he was only elevated to the “level” he is because Clear Channel communications OWNS the AM airwaves. They FORCE many of their stations to play his program.
Currently, an effort is under way in the United States House. The cons are trying to PERMANENTLY kill any pretense at broadcast fairness on the airwaves the public is supposed to own.
So far, they have exactly zero Democrats on board with the effort. And they can’t permanently kill the Fairness Doctrine without them. IF you have a Democratic representative in Congress, write to them and tell them not to sign the petition doing away with the Fairness Doctrine.
I read that 100 democrats voted against the fairness doctrine.
That’s gotta change.
No no political mama.
Last year, the cons put up a petition to suspend any further action on the Fairness Doctrine for ONE YEAR.
That is the vote you are referring to.
NOW the cons are trying to take away the Fairness Doctrine option PERMANENTLY.
Last I heard, there were NO Democrats on board. It needs to stay that way.
Thanks for the clarification. They like to spout off about free speech … only when it limits the other side.
Rush and Clear Channel.
As my dad used to say: Ain’t that a hell of a pair to draw to.
Dennis
It is just a fact of human nature that hateful speech is emotionally compelling. And it is easier to let someone draw conclusions for you without have to study, understand and contemplate the facts of any particular issue.
Hehehehehe!
The Fairness doctrine is control of Free Speech by the Government.
No wonder you Libs are FOR it.
Yeah, Rush’s audience is FORCED to listen to him! Ha. Ha Ha. Double Ha Ha.
Money drives the radio business. Without listeners, no radio ad money.
If Rush wasn’t drawing listeners, he would have been fired from the EIB.
Get over it Libs, 20 million tune in to Rush every week! 20 million couldn’t be wrong, could they?
Just like thousands of peer reviewed scientists, can’t be wrong.
Isn’t it sad that the only way leftwing talk radio can make it is if the right is forced to let them talk. If you have a message put it out there people on the left. If not then quit trying to silence free speech. If it is a message anyone to listen to it will succeed. Oh wait you’ve already done that with ‘Air America’ - how well did that work?
sounds like a fitting description for the Eagle staff, minus party affiliations.
Propaganda pays well.
BlueJay,
The Fairness Doctrine…
You can’t compete in the arena of ideas without having the government force people to have to listen.
I suppose Howard Stern only has as many listeners because they have to listen to him becauset that is what the Radio stations will play.
People have more options than the one AM station playing Rush Limbaugh to listen to.
To try to argue that only because that is all that is on the radio is the only reason why they listen to Limbaugh is about the most bogus argument I have heard here yet.
People can choose to listen to over a dozen different FM stations and over a dozen different AM stations.
Limbaugh is not on all of them.
Right-wing hate talk has been a radio staple for decades. Father Coughlin, Joe Pyne, Wally George…. The format is as stock for AM radio as “Golden Oldies.”
Limbaugh is just another snake-oil salesman. His “20 million” listeners a week is radio-speak for “five audiences of four million” per week. Still, it’s bigger than anyone else, but his audience represents a little over 1% of the 370-or-so million American population.
But, hey. The guy’s talented. He’s the Motown Weekend of right-wing talk radio (all the others — O’Reilly, Glen Beck, Michael Savage… are a medley of the Starland Vocal Band’s greatest hits). He puts on fifteen hours a week of relatively entertaining talk radio that gets all 1% of America creaming in their jeans. It’s a helluva act and it’s not his fault the Limbaugh-tomized Masses are out their on the fringes of sanity; he just plays to them. Even Rush himself describes his show was “comedy entertainment.”
He’s the heir of those Will Rogers talked about when he said, “When the Republicans are joking it sounds like their serious; and when they’re serious, it’s a joke.”
MonkeyHawk,
You attempt to trivialize Rush Limbaugh, yet many Democrats and the left wing seek to stop him and right wing radio with the fairness doctrine.
Apparently he is not that trivial to your side after all.
“Nathaniel” chimes in with –
“…many Democrats and the left wing seek to stop him and right wing radio with the fairness doctrine.
“Apparently he is not that trivial to your side after all.”
“Trivial” is your word, “Nataniel,” not mine. Don’t go building straw men just to try to sound smart. Trying to sound smart never works for you.
The key to Limbaugh’s success — and all post Fairness Doctrine broadcasts — is the essential of his program: the monolog.
Limbaugh is a gifted propagandist, but he steadfastly refuses to allow anyone on his broadcasts who can debate with him on the issues. Thanks to extensive caller-screening, his show is filled with “mega-dittos” and the occasional inarticulate straw man dissenters.
Limbaugh is a rap artist who doesn’t bother to rhyme. He’s a televangelist for the CONservative Cause and he’s got a following that will order Snapple and 1-800-A-B-C-D-E-F-G (that literacy correspondence course…talk about target marketing!).
Rush Limbaugh is to right-wing hate-talk AM radio what Wolfman Jack was to rock ‘n’ roll; he ain’t the Beatles.
I often watch Charlie Rose on PBS. He has guests - often whi disagree strongly. I have seen him have representatives of BOTH sides of the Mideast issue for example. He asks probing but respectful questions. However, his show can be a bit difficult at times - its not the simple black-and-white that too many people seem to prefer.
Well, to each his own I guess …
Monkey Rush has always said that any leftwinger that calls in goes to the top of the line. Why don’t you prove him wrong. Call in and see how fast you get on the air.
Let us all hear you use your superior intellest to put Rush in his place. Maybe you can get your own talk show if you do well enough
I love him, and I hate him. I like how he boldly goes into controversial territory, but I’d respect him if he did so equally on both side of the political aisle. He was pro-Bush, and I listened to him, but he was wrong. GW was not a president that stood for good Republican principles, except for the religious whacko issues.
So Rush got knocked down several rungs with me. But he is right about Obama. Obama is another Jimmy Carter waiting to happen.
“Obama is another Jimmy Carter waiting to happen” — semperfie.
YOu mean the Jimmy Carter who recognized our furture energy problems, and attemted to solve them? That Jimmy Carter? Remember, how you, the PUKES, scrapped all of those farseeing iniatives as soon as Reagan became president in favor of market voodoo?
“SEMPERFIGUY” –
Here’s a personal test for you and all the rest of the Limbaugh-tomized Masses:
Just when has he ever surprised you?
Just when has he said something that made you sit back, stunned, that an idea or policy or practice put forth by the Republic Party was wrong? Or that — using the old Ann Landers line, “Even a broken clock is right twice a day.” — that Limbaugh made you do a double-take because he said the Democrats nailed it on some issue!
Never.
At least never for me.
Limbaugh junkies (which is probably a redundancy) don’t tune in to be informed or challenged about what to think about an issue, they tune in for the Beach Boys, Diana Ross, and Tony Orlando and Dawn. Just as radio audiences don’t tune into the Golden Oldies station to hear an obscure 1967 album cut from Leonard Cohen, the Limbaugh-tomized Masses tune in to hear what they want to hear; what they expect to hear.
Not a bad business model, obviously.
But don’t ever confuse Rush Limbaugh’s monologues with “political discourse.”
His format is rap music radio without the rhymes.
He’s good at it.
And Stallone is one helluva actor.
Nathan come up to my neck of the woods, every freaking radio station has Faux News on it. I’m sick of that. You know that means they own all of these stations. I don’t get a choice on what to listen to.
And SemperFi, Bush far far far outdid anything Carter did that was bad, at least Carter really TRIED to do the right thing. The man wasn’t evil.
Instead, the Republicans got in bed with the ones we’re now calling evildoers. SO please, give me a break.
If you can’t think for yourself, and need a crutch for your brain, Rush is one way to get there, wherever “there” is.
“Call in and see how fast you get on the air.”
I have.
Probably more than 20 times. A few times that wimpy little “Snerdley” was honest and said that my call wasn’t useful to the line of the program. Three times I think.
All the rest of the times I called, he told me to hold and then let me listen to music until I hung up.
At least Boortz is honest about it. When you call one of those shows, you are very carefully screened. If you agree with the host or otherwise make him look good, you get on. If you would tend to embarrass the host or displease the larger audience you don’t.
I wonder if it ever nags at them in the slightest that they lie to so many. Anytime a truck driver or carpenter or other working person professes love for those bastards, I just cringe.
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine!
Brownlee said, “It’s time to feed duh Libs…”
So Keeper Brownlee throws them a nice Limbaugh chew toy to keep them occupied until a proper spewage can be served…
Is this the whining topic?
Must be.
Sounds like 1,000 Hillary Clinton’s all screaching at the same time.
Bluejay what you had to say might not have been intereswting to the masses. I have heard many times when he puts on people who don’t agree with him. And as much as the left hate to admit it he isn’t unkind to them. Condesending maybe but not unkind. I can’t say that for Boortz. He lets them have it. Calls them names.
“And as much as the left hate to admit it he isn’t unkind to them”
Yeah, like when he told the African American caller to call back after he took the “bone out of his nose.”
Yeah, just like that.
Let’s play the McLiar Game - for you right wingers - PROVE that Limbaugh DID NOT make the above statement.
Prove it.
Boy the Libs sure are whining alot today.
Rush has a very successful radio program and 20 million choose to listen to him, but we don’t always agree with him.
I have listened to Rush talk to Libs alot on his program.
Al Franken and Air America was a disaster.
Why? Becuase he could not keep his listeners wanting to listen to him.
And now he is running for the Senate?
Al Franken didn’t have such a large pool of sheep to draw from. Dems. tend to draw their own conclusions.
“Rush has a very successful radio program and 20 million choose to listen to him, but we don’t always agree with him.”
Adolph Hitler and Chairman Mao were very successful dictators.
Dennis Rader and Ted Bundy were very successful serial killers.
Charles Whitman and Lee Harvey Oswald were very successful snipers.
Ken Lay and Charles Ponzi were very successful pyramid builders.
What’s your point? Very successful does not equate being right.
WSClark,
Quit your whining.
You might try making a relevant point. One that is relative to the conversation.
Of course, your own personal successes could be compared to the ones you brought up as well, but still wouldn’t be pertinent.
What I had to say would have put maja Rushie on his damned heels is what.
Why so defensive?
Is it because you LIKE someone like Rush being able to lie to people and convince them to vote Republican? Of course it is.
I worked around listener fans of his. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer those folks.
All the Fairness Doctrine would require is equal time. You don’t HAVE to listen.
In Wichita, I can tune in any time of the day and there is one con or another on shilling for the cons. Where is my source for a viewpoint I want to hear?
Fairness Doctrine. It’s the only way to break the CON trol of the media.
Liberals love to tell you that Rush is, somehow, not an honest man.
It is easy to prove that the Clintons lie all the time.
It is easy to prove that John Kerry tells lies.
It is even easy to prove that Obama lies, lately, with his stupid claim that he, Obama, SUPPORTED Welfare reform! (Not true, Obama spoke against the bill that Bill Clinton signed!)
Anyway, anyone on the air as much as Limbaugh is going to make a few, honest mistakes. Limbaugh does a very good job of correcting himself, if an error is brought to his attention.
However, liberals just call conservatives “liar liar pants on fire” since liberals can not beat conservatives, with logic and the facts.
Get over it, libs!
Limbaugh is here to stay. Talk radio will always be with us.
The “Fairness Doctrine” was and will always be an unconstitutional restriction on First Amendment rights. It will be challenged, and overturned, if you try to bring it back.
“The rememdy for bad speech is more speech” is what the ACLU types used to tell us all the time.
Liberals don’t have any “good speech” to give us, since liberal policy and liberal views can not command a strong audience.
The more you bitter, hateful, clueless libs attack Limbaugh, the more popular he will become.
The American public will not allow you to shut him up.
Politicians dumb enough to try are in violation of their oath of office.
BlueJay,
Get satellite radio. Then make your choice. Why limit freedom of speech?
Or if you just listen to ALL the major broadcast TV stations, or most of the cable stations other than Fox News, you can hear the liberal side of things.
Or buy a newspaper, of which most are of the liberal viewpoint.
You have plenty of choices.
He won’t be shut up Paulie.
He’ll just have fair and balanced.
We will have the numbers in Congress.
The current attempt to kill the Fairness Doctrine forever, thus GIVING radio to the Republican party,
will fail.
“Get over it, libs!”
Perhaps you can arrange to join American, Rossell and maybe take a few more of your right wing lying jerks with you.
Then all of us “libs” could have a party.
WSClark,
The true sign of a liberal. If they don’t have a point, they call you names or use foul language.
How juvenile!
Go Rush!
Go Hannity!
Go Bortz!
The fact is the larger media is NOT liberal.
It just isn’t conservative.
Cons see things in black and white. IF something is not 100% con it is by default liberal…to them.
We see this in many other areas with the cons. They should not get priveledged media just because they are narrow minded.
A rebuttal view may break the patter of the con ranters. That’s what they are afraid of.
That’s because THEIR ideas cannot stand a thorough explore.
Go O’Reilly!
Ever heard of 1984? Ever heard of communism? Their idea and the idea in the book was total control of the media.
It’s not going to happen, and you are fools to think it will!
BlueJay,
Who receives the largest amount of dollars from millionaires?
Democrats or Republicans?
Tick, tock, tick, tock……..
Who is priveleged?
Hmmm
WHICH would I rather have in control of the media?
The government that I am part of or big business?
It’s not a hard call at all to a thinking person.
What is it you cons like to say on your party media? “Fair and balanced?”
BlueJay,
You are part of the government?
I wouldn’t know about that.
I’ll tell ya this though.
If you are not incredibly rich and you vote Republican? You are an idiot.
To the extent that it is still of by and for the people I am a part of the government.
Increasing it is of by and for the rich.
BlueJay,
So you are NOT part of the government as you incorrectly stated above?
BlueJay,
Are you part of the liberal fold who has no point and reverts to name calling too, because they have no point?
You must be taking training from WS!
What a shame!
WS
I think that wishing the deaths of other bloggers is beneath you.
I wish I could say that I was disappointed.
Sad to say such from you was somewhat expected, and I am surprised that you waited this long to sink so low.
BJ
You do not understand the point of government.
Frankly, you do not understand much of anything.
You seem to see government as a way to “even the score” for all your past hurts and bitter memories.
Sad, pathetic man that you are —
You do not realize that YOU, BJ, are in charge of your own happiness.
You let yourself down.
Do not try to punish the rest of us for your own personal failures.
Envy is a deadly sin.
Envy is deadly because it robs you of the ability to be happy, to be grateful, to be productive, to respect the property and the lives of others.
Your pride has kept you from doing a better job in life. You refuse to conform to the norms of society.
Your sloth has kept you from working as hard as you should.
Envy makes you resent the gains that those who are not “too proud to work” have made.
Most of the “rich” people that I know have known hard times, economic disaster, business failure and many set backs.
The successful people that I know looked in the mirror, took responsibility for their share of the “blame” and tried again and again until they found something that worked for them.
You will not get ahead by tearing others down.
You will only get ahead by building up your own self-worth, in some way.
Have you taken ANY classes to improve yourself?
Have you ever invested any money in a business, so that you, too, could profit? If you take no risk, you do not deserve any direct reward.
Have you ever tried to learn from the success and the failures of others?
Or does your paranoid mind really believe that all of us “evil Republicans” are the cause of your utter, dismal failure?
Failure is an event, not a person.
We all fail, at times in our lives.
The only true failures are those who do not take responsibility for their own faults.
Franklin states:
“It is even easy to prove that Obama lies, lately, with his stupid claim that he, Obama, SUPPORTED Welfare reform! (Not true, Obama spoke against the bill that Bill Clinton signed!)”
Please to tell us WHEN Clinton signed the Welfare reform bill??(Year) And, then, tell us what Obama was doing at the time, and where he was doing it??
Oh yea, one more —- Please to explain why it is that Obama didnt support Welfare Reform, IF he indeed spoke out against Clinton’s Bill…
Is that the ONLY kind of Welfare Reform Obama may have supported??
Chas
Obama was in the Illinois Legislature.
Welfare reform directly impacted the states.
Many state legislators and govenernors, including Obama, commented on the Republican sponsored and Clinton signed “Welfare Reform” that Obama objected to.
Also Chas, I might go look some stuff up for you, just to rub it in, but— your last post is not logical.
OBAMA is claiming he had a role in Welfare Reform. Seems to me, you seem to think that Obama could have had no role, since you indicate that Obama was not in the United States Senate at the time? HUH??? Do you then say that Obama MUST be lying, since he could not have had ANY role? Why is Obama running “welfare reform” TV ads if he, Obama, played NO role at all (which seems to be your point)??
Try to make some sense Chas.
Franklin, I made perfect sense… Just because Obama didnt support the Clinton Welfare Reform Bill, does NOT mean, in any way, shape, or form, that he opposed Welfare Reform… You present a rather stupid correlation/causality fallacy….
Because he didnt support Clinton’s bill, does NOT mean, that he was opposed to Welfare Reform, as you posted upthread…
If you please, amend your remarks…
IIRC, Illinois and several other states were pushing a slightly different kindof Welfare Reform program than Clinton was pushing… Some of those states, felt that Clinton’s bill was too far into the Republican camp…
Thus, a number of states opposed Clinton’s bill… He needed the Republicans to get it passed…
Wrong Paulie.
Clinton signed the welfare reform bill in 1996.
Obama began serving in the Illinois Senate in 1997
Franklin states:
“It is even easy to prove that Obama lies, lately, with his stupid claim that he, Obama, SUPPORTED Welfare reform! (Not true, Obama spoke against the bill that Bill Clinton signed!)”
======================================
My point is quite simple… Obama most likely supported Welfare Form… just not Clinton’s Welfare Reform bill…
How DARE you spin my words around to make them fit YOUR narrow minded mold!! Your correlation is FLAWED!!
Thanks KFG — I thouoght I remember Obama not being in the Illinois Senate… but without numbers, I wasnt going to say anything… HOWEVER, I DID ask Franklin what YEAR it was… And he, ummmm forget to post the YEAR…. Ahem…..
Chas
Sloppy and slippery come back.
No, you don’t even get points for effort.
Go to Obama’s web site, I am sure that you can find a video of his current TV advertising which brings up, as one point, that he “Supported Welfare Reform” —
He is clearly TRYING to take partial credit for the Welfare Reform that Clinton signed, after a Republican Congress forced Clinton’s hand on the issue.
Obama was not specific, at all, on purpose.
Obama deceitfully brought the issue up.
It is now up to Obama to be more specific.
Farmgirl
Obama claims that he supported Welfare Reform.
You claim that he could not support or oppose it?
How does that justify his ad?
FRANKLIN —-
YOU claim that Obama didnt support Clinton’s Welfare Reform bill… I am not arguing that…. But to say that Obama didnt support Welfare Reform, BECAUSE he didnt support Clinton’s bill is just plain rubbish!!
And whats more, You KNOW thats just plain rubbish!! Obama, along with a lot of other Democrats, supported a different Welfare Reform proposal, than the one Clinton ended up signing… With Republican Pressure…. Due, of course, to the whitewash of 1994…. Contract ON America!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,374844,00.html
“Barack Obama is championing welfare reform in his new television ad titled “Dignity.” The ad says that Obama “passed a law to move people from welfare to work — slashed the rolls by 80 percent.”
But the television spot fails to mention that Obama resisted the very welfare reform bill that led to the reduction in the caseload. Back in 1996, President Bill Clinton signed a federal reform bill in an effort to make welfare what he called “a second chance, not a way of life.”
But then-Illinois state Senator Obama told the Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper that year that Mr. Clinton’s stance on welfare was “disturbing.”
And on May 31, 1997 Obama said on the floor of the Illinois state Senate, “I probably would not have supported the federal legislation.”
Franklin spews forth >>>>
“He is clearly TRYING to take partial credit for the Welfare Reform that Clinton signed, after a Republican Congress forced Clinton’s hand on the issue.”
Are you actually trying to say that Obama cannot claim credit for being part of Welfare Reform, even if he DIDNT agree with the bill Clinton signed??
Do you even know how many other proposals for Welfare Reform were floating around at that time??
LOTS of people were not in favor of the bill that Clinton was, as you say, “forced” to sign…. It was all Clinton could get… and what he got was better than nothing at all!!
WSClark
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Believe me, Rossell, when you and American and a few more of the “conservatives” on this blog die, I plan to honor you all by pouring a fine bottle of Tequila on your graves.
Right after it passes through my kidneys.
WS — you’d be in a very long line —- probably not worth the wait ….
What’s that high pitched screeching sound?
Nothing friend, it’s just the voices of progressive liberals whining.
LOL Indie!!
And Clinton’s embrace of Welfare Reform showed just how much of a moderate his philosophy of governance really is.
Dyed-in-the-wool Democrats thought he was a sell-out. The right-wing slime machine whined that “Clinton stole our issue!”
Fact is, as with most legislation, Clinton’s welfare reform was an imperfect step in the right direction.
The only problem is, the wrong direction was dictated by CONservative Republic Party partisans who screwed up the process forty and sixty years ago.
When Aid to Dependent Children legislation was a foregone reality in Congress, the CONs did their best to screw it up from the onset.
There might be an appropriate argument based on “Why re-invent the wheel?” But the CONs played it to the hilt, and instead of authorizing a new approach to ADC, they insisted it be based on the Coal Miners’ Widows program from the 1930s.
That program was tailored to women like Loretta Lynn who couldn’t come up with a career in country music: girls married at 14 and widowed at 21 with seven rug-crawlers and “one on the way.” With no education or career options and no husband the Coal Miners’ Widows program worked fairly well. And when ADC became inevitable, the CONs insisted it be the model for the new program.
The CONs’ objections turned into the ultimate “Law of Unintended Results” fiasco. Base on the fear that someone somewhere might be sitting on the sofa while being a father to his kids, the program dictated that kids couldn’t get fed if there was a man in the house.
Back in the 90s, Newtie Gingrich’s view of Welfare “Reform” was, basically, let kids starve or ship ‘em off to an orphanage. (Look it up.) Clinton negotiated an approach to Welfare Reform that promoted childcare, nutrition programs, and job training.
Obama, and a lot of us, wondered if there’d be enough jobs available after three years for ADC parents to feed their kids after training, etc. And the three-years-and-you’re-out aspects of welfare “reform” ADC seemed, potentially, a tad draconian.
Given the job-losing record of George WMD Bush’s America, the prospect of jobs available to former ADC-recipients seems like a prescient observation of the flaws in Clinton’s welfare reform.
Clinton got what he could, and in the process pissed off a lot of Republic Party CONs by “hijacking” their issue.
Name any issue that faces the American people. ANY issue, and I can provide historical evidence that the CONs have been proven wrong.
Consistently, perpetually, and dependably wrong.
But, under Karl Rove’s plan for a permanent Republic Party majority (based on the fact “…half of Americans are, by definition, below average in intelligence”) the Republic Party has enjoyed a couple of decades of realizing their goal of seizing power and wanting to govern in the worst way.
And they have succeeded.
“I think that wishing the deaths of other bloggers is beneath you.”
How is that different from your approach, Rossell? Have you similarly condemned Hank Price’s statement to J R, Apophis and others to “ESAD?”
Have you condemned Nathaniel Price’s statement that he would “disappear” anyone that hurt one of his dogs?
Have you condemned any of McCluer’s multiple threats against damn near every liberal on this Blog?
So let me say, without a trace of regret, phuck you, Rossell and the rest of the self-proclaimed so-called good Christian right wing hypocritical assholes on this Blog…………………..
…………..I look forward to the day that I can “pour” that bottle of fine Tequila on your graves.
For the good of our country, please don’t make me wait long.
WRONG WRONG WRONG the Fairness Doctrine did not keep views off the public airwaves..
“It did not require equal time for opposing views. It merely prevented a station from day after day presenting a single view without airing opposing views. The Fairness Doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows or editorials.”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine
Fairness doctrine? That is the biggest load of crap perpetrated by anybody anytime. The fact the Reich-wing listens to the radio all day to the likes of rush and his bigoted followers shows just how lazy these people are.
While Liberals are out in the world, working and trying to make this a better planet, rush and his cohorts are talking up war, taking benefits away from those who need them, making business the way to run the world and generally doing their best to keep either a woman or a black man out of the White House.
With them it ain’t politics, but control. And if a black or woman were to run the country, those same morons would have little control over Washington.
Remember when Clinton raised taxes? rush bet a million bucks it would spawn a recession. He got no takers. Why? Because no one with any intelligence listens to this freak. And the final tally was no recession. Ask rush about that one.
My bottom line on rush is: if there were the same money in Liberal radio, he would be there in a New York minute. He’s nothing more than a whore for his money.
O, ya . . . remember his one night MNF stint? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha . . . .
O, ya . . . how many times has this piece of whale effluent been married? Divorced? Now there’s someone the cons can look up to. Lie I said, if liberal radio had money . . .
sScCCrrRRReeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeCccCCCChhhHHHH!!!!
More progressive libs chime in.
(chortles)
Let’s see: Multiple marriages and divorces, drug addict . . . sound like the cons interpretation of Liberals, don’t it!!! Looks like their own back yard has some “classic Liberals”:-)
What part of “Congress will make NO law” is it, that you do not understand?
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
I might add, at the time that the Fairness Doctrine existed, we did not have much, in the way of political talk radio. We also did not have much, in the way of cable television. We also did not have satelite radio.
I think that the “Fairness Doctrine” was always anti-American and unconstitutional.
However, I can see that there might be some who thought it was necessary, at one time, under the silly notion that the “airwaves” are public property.
That is nonsense.
The local park is public property. If I rent space at that park, for a polical rally, I do not have to make sure that my opponents are notified, and have a chance to make their views known, as well.
That is the job of the opposition, to get its message out!
Likewise, radio stations “rent” the airwaves, through their licensing and payment of taxes and fees.
As far as content goes, “Congress shall make no law” —
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Regular
Posted July 3, 2008 at 7:32 pm | Permalink
sScCCrrRRReeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeCccCCCChhhHHHH!!!!
More progressive libs chime in.
(chortles)
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. . .and regressive cons reply.
sigh
JM Walker,
For some reason, the left wing hs been using divorce to attack “family” values on the right and now you have done it so long and so often you actually think that is what the right holds as a standard for family values when it is not.
Besides, no one is perfect when it comes to “family values” but that is not then an excuse to not have any at all.
“More progressive libs chime in.”
‘Tis much better to be a progressive liberal than a reactionary conservative……………………..
At least the progressive liberals live in a reality based world, not a fantasy land made of lies and hypocrisy as do the reactionary conservatives.
JM Walker,
Liberal radio had money. Liberal radio had to buy their way onto the air and look where they are now. They fail at getting anyone to listen so the money goes away and no one wants to pay them to stay.
Rush Limbaugh didn’t start at the top, he worked his way there.
“what the right holds as a standard for family values when it is not”
So what DOES the right hold as a standard for family values?
Or is that a loaded question, Price, one that you will NOT answer?
lies?
Name a lie.
Name one thing that Rush Limbaugh has said, and never retracted or modified, that was a complete falsehood, can you?
You liberals give Obama, and Clinton and Clinton and Kerry a pass, nomatter what they say.
You can not show me a single time that Limbaugh knowingly said something that was untrue.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Bunch of crybaby liberals, anyway.
Liberals do not, as a rule, study issues very much.
Liberalism is based on emotions and feelings.
It is hard to base a good radio show on hate and envy and anger, and that is all the liberals have.
Conservatives base their beliefs on facts, experience and common sense. It is easy to fill a show with those things, and get people to listen.
WS Clark,
I don’t think there is any one “standard.”
There are many things which I think are good values which should be embraced.
WSClark,
Your unreality is believing that Obama will do anything good for this country.
Better get real man!
He is the heart of the GOP. That is why they are doomed to fail. The guy is nuts, completely nuts. I don’t mind him getting rich, etc., that’s the USA. I am just amazed that one man can do the thinking for so many conservatives. If Rush said it, most likely his sycophant followers will repeat it. Just read this blog for your own eye witness account.
SEE how scared they are of equal time?
There’s a reason for that.
Can you build it?
Yes we can!
Obama’s served only one term in the senate?
Change you can believe in!
Obama’s had no executive experience?
Change you can believe in!
Obama went to Chicago UCC for 20 years and didn’t hear what Pastor Jeremiah Wright said?
Change you can believe in!
Obama associated with a known domestic terrorist, William Ayres?
Change you can believe in!
Obama is the most liberal senator in congress and is pretending to be a moderate now?
Change you can believe in!
Obama associated with and was mentored by avowed communists.
Rush Limbaugh is the heart of the Republican party only as much as Barack Hussein Obama is the heart of the Democratic Party!
Both are baloney!
Rush has taken the Republican party to task in the past and will in the future.
BlueJay,
Why do you not demand “equal time” for the TV media too? Why is it only the radio?
“Conservatives base their beliefs on facts, experience and common sense.”
Uh huh.
Depends on what type of conservative you ask.
Some of them base their beliefs on money. Theirs and how they can accumulate more of it.
Others base their beliefs on a 2000 year old book and their unique capacity to tell the rest of us what it means and how to live.
Then there is sorta a hybrid deviant of the two. The type that think they live in their own little bubble. These types are marginally more tolerable as they don’t worry much about other people’s bubbles.
These are narrow things, as conservatives are narrow people.
I know. I was one once, I thought.
Liberal base their beliefs on the greater good.
The greater good is that ALL opinions get an airing. THAT is why we need the Fairness Doctrine.
And print media? Why are they not subject to “fairness?”
Shouldn’t the government have control over all aspects of speech to impliment “fairness?”
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Nathaniel
Posted July 3, 2008 at 7:44 pm | Permalink
JM Walker,
For some reason, the left wing hs been using divorce to attack “family” values on the right and now you have done it so long and so often you actually think that is what the right holds as a standard for family values when it is not.
Besides, no one is perfect when it comes to “family values” but that is not then an excuse to not have any at all.
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. . .and the cons haven’t been doing that for years. So when libs start using it, it’s wrong all of a sudden? Talk about hypocrites.
I think your own words, “Besides, no one is perfect when it comes to “family values” but that is not then an excuse to not have any at all.” seem to apply to rush big time. But of course, he’ll tell you different, and you will believe him. Maybe you can be best man at his next wedding:-)
BlueJay,
You don’t learn easily do you?
80-90% of today’s overall media (cable, broadcast TV, newsprint, etc) comes from a liberal viewpoint.
This is a very well known fact.
So OK, let’s have equal time then with both conservative and liberal viewpoints on all the media cable, broadcast TV, newsprint, etc….
I’m for that!
Any other conservative out there for that, speak up now!
I do not see the rest of the media as liberal Nathan.
They aren’t you know. I believe I covered that.
The media pretty much plays it down the middle. Shameless bias for Obama over Clinton being a noted deviation.
The media is not conservative either. Therefore to you, it is by default liberal.
Is it just me? Or has anyone else notices the Weblog editorial threads have all gone to pot?
Petty, whiney, crying negative post topics.
Is it any wonder newspapers and news are loosing money? Maybe the fairness doctrine will make listeners more responsive to the liberals views and less attentive to the conservative view? Not a chance.
But libs can muse it will happen.
JM Walker,
I don’t believe everything Rush says just because he says it.
I suppose that is just another way you liberals try to deal with those who listen? Try to stereotype them.
“80-90% of today’s overall media (cable, broadcast TV, newsprint, etc) comes from a liberal viewpoint.”
Again, says you.
If the media is liberal please explain to me how a hack like Brent Castillo gets a weekly column?
You cannot see shades of gray. Conservatives see things as this or that one or the other.
The media is not conservative. Therefore it is liberal. TO YOU.
Limbaugh doent tell his audience what to think.
We agreed with him, before we ever heard his name.
Sure, Limbaugh gets a few “converts” to the cause. By and large, however, his success comes from the fact that he gave conservatism a voice. The audience was already there.
ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN refused to speak to that audience.
Liberal newspapers are failing.
Limbaugh is growing stronger.
You can not stop him.
“ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN refused to speak to that audience.”
No, they refused to PANDER to that audience.
The vast majority of newspaper employees vote for the Democrat in every Presidential election.
The vast majority of TV station employees vote Democrat in every Presidential election.
BlueJay,
Please name one broadcast TV network that wasn’t falling all over Barack Hussein Obama?
Broadcast TV is NBC, CBS, and ABC.
Please name one cable TV network that wasn’t falling all over Barack Hussein Obama?
Cable TV is CNBC, CNN, Fox, etc.
Please name one print media that wasn’t falling all over Barack Hussein Obama?
Print media is newspapers, i.e., The Wichita Eagle, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, NY Times, etc., etc.
Most of MSM is profit-driven and dysfunctional.
And why are Hillary and Bill Clinton still in the news? The news if full of Hillary stumping for Obama. And Bill Clinton making up with Obama - that’s news too?
Hardly any coverage on the republican side. Anything about the other republican candidates?
Nope.
Media cannot fall out of love with the Clintons.
Obviously fans.
The MSM (80-90% liberal part) has their “token” conservative on each of the networks.
CNN - Pat Buchanan
Headline News (CNN) - Glen Beck
To name a few.
I can’t think of any on NBC, CBS or ABC.
Only Fox has a more balanced level of conservatives and liberals, which includes moderates in the mix as well.
And Franklin is right, the liberal press is not making it very well and their ratings are down and have been down for the last several years.
I already KNOW where this is gonna go. But here goes.
If the media is so liberal? WHY has John McCain been given a TOTAL pass on his despicable treatment of his first wife?
(Cue cons coming to tell me that McCain is NOT a conservative in 3 2 1)
Pat Buchananon is pretty big guns. Glenn Beck is a lunatic.
John Stossel is a total tool.
Name me ONE liberal on Fox “news”
alan colmes does not count. He is a mouse for Hannity to play with.
Name me any other notable liberal on Fox “news”.
If the media is so liberal, why did they push the idea that george bush was a person people would rather “have a beer with” than Al Gore.
Studies tell us that there were more negative stories in the media about Gore than there were bush as well.
You cons cannot see anything. Least of all your own narrow and limited perception.
I asked first. You go.
“There are many things which I think are good values which should be embraced.”
In other words, once again, you won’t answer.
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Nathaniel
Posted July 3, 2008 at 8:14 pm | Permalink
JM Walker,
I don’t believe everything Rush says just because he says it.
I suppose that is just another way you liberals try to deal with those who listen? Try to stereotype them.
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If “stereotyping” is what you want to call it, then stereotyping it is. I just call it as I see it. What you want to call it really doesn’t concern me:-) Rush is a master at saying what people want to hear, regardless of the facts. Which is why he gets paid so much. As I said, a whore for his money.
BlueJay,
Man, You must be real far to the left, even of Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama, if you can’t understand or see the truth about the liberal media.
Man, you must be soooooooo liberal, that you can’t even see the other end of the spectrum.
Man, you must be sooo liberal, that you expect the government to show up every morning with breakfast for you, because, you can’t do anything without the government’s hand in it.
Is that right?
American, if you are representative of the religious conservative right, I hope President Obama has you declared an enemy combatant and has you tossed, without trial or recourse, into Gitmo for the rest of your pitiful life.
The media is liberal because YOU or Rush says so “American”?
I think I’ve covered that. It’s your own narrow perspective. It colors everything you cons believe in.
Marriage is ONLY this.
There is only ONE way to get to Heaven.
If you speak up against your own country, why you are a traitor.
Equal time is biased against YOU.
You live among other people in a society. You are not an island unto yourself. The world is not required to revolve around you.
And if the media is oh so liberal, WHY was the march to war a universal theme across ALL media?
How is it that “the troops” are treated as elevated beings? They just do a job same as anyone else.
Can you build it?
Yes we can!
Obama’s served only one term in the senate?
Change you can believe in!
Obama’s had no executive experience?
Change you can believe in!
Obama went to Chicago UCC for 20 years and didn’t hear what Pastor Jeremiah Wright said?
Change you can believe in!
Obama associated with a known domestic terrorist, William Ayres?
Change you can believe in!
Obama is the most liberal senator in congress and is pretending to be a moderate now?
Change you can believe in!
Obama associated with and was mentored by avowed communists.
Change you can believe in!
Obama didn’t pass any of his own legislation when in the Illinois Senate or the US Senate and often voted only present when he didn’t want to reveal what he really stood for.
Change you can believe in!
The best thing Obama has going for him is his speaking ability and his “Rock Star” appeal.
Change you can believe in!
Are tickets available to here him speak or to go to his concert?
Change you can believe in!
Father Phlegler spoke at his church at UCC.
Change you can believe in!
Obama is glad that gas prices are going up?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
Paulie, for shame. You know I am NOT an obama supporter. I think he is just.like.the.rest.
Hope and change indeed. Big eye roll.
I merely googled the facts and answered Chas’ question.
I saw first hand what “welfare reform” did to overcrowd community colleges and trade schools with completely unqualified “students”. My largest client in Texas was a textbook company, and I worked their stores during textbook “rush”.
Ever noticed how the cost of college has skyrocketed since welfare reform? And textbook costs skyrocketed faster and farther than any other cost?
Gee.. correlation? Causation?
And WTF happened to all those folks who washed out? They wasted taxpayer money and were STILL unqualified for jobs that paid a living wage.
Should have been called “The community college and textbook company welfare act” instead of “welfare reform”.
And… OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!
Now the wingnuts think divorce is not such a big deal? That it doesnt have anything to do with family values? Jesus WEPT!!!!!!!
You wanna bitch all the time about gay marriage destroying the sacred institution of marriage?
Heheheheh. Here’s a clue. IIRC, DIVORCE is what destroys marriage.
Not gays.
Goddam. Sometimes I wonder if you guys even read your own posts….
Wanna “save” the institution of straight marriage? Ban divorce. I believe that’s consistant with your fairy tale book, otherwise known as the bible.
How many straight marriages have gay marriages destroyed in Mass and CA?
And how many straight marriages have been destroyed by divorce?
BIG effin’ eye roll!
Family values indeed.
But the more important message is,
“Just how many gay divorce lawyers are there?”
There’s the wrench for that loose nut…
Yawn.
Same ol ksfarmgrrl.
You entered the election yet?
On the Green Party?
That’s right. Once you get married, how will you divorce, farmer grrrrrrl?
American, here’s some change I can believe in - you can change into a caring, decent human being that treats all people with respect.
But that is probably asking too much of a right wing self-proclaimed holier than thou Christian like you………………….
But, I still have a fine bottle of aged Blue Agave Tequila waiting for you!
“Just how many gay divorce lawyers are there?”
Are you divorced or never married, McCluer?
Or should I say, which is it today?
WSClark,
Same Gender Extremists got into to this all on their own and created this mess for themselves and by the way, for our country.
The line has been crossed.
“You wanna bitch all the time about gay marriage….”
Poor ole ksfarmgrrl, still harping about the status of her and her gay friends. Same poor ole bitter girl. Mad at the world and religion for not supporting the tiny minority of humans who prefer their own gender for sex. Still promoting her minority cause by sounding like the abused and wronged woman.
Not much has changed around here, since I left.
And listen to the liberals cry about the GREAT SUCCESS of Rush Limbo. Rush is a great entertainer.
Liberals, are more stuck on his message than conservatives. So blinded, they cannot see the forest through the trees. He makes his money providing a product which listeners want to hear. They want to be entertained!
But liberals cannot compete on that level.
Jealous to the max…..!
“The line has been crossed.”
As you draw your dying breath, American, remember that you will soon have a second hand taste of the finest aged Blue Agave Mexican tequila.
You too, American Way, semi-fresh tequila…………….
“Still promoting her minority cause”
God damned minorities - who the phuck do they think they are - American CITIZENS?
Can you build it?
Yes we can!
Obama’s served only one term in the senate?
Change you can believe in!
Obama’s had no executive experience?
Change you can believe in!
Obama went to Chicago UCC for 20 years and didn’t hear what Pastor Jeremiah Wright said?
Change you can believe in!
Obama associated with a known domestic terrorist, William Ayres?
Change you can believe in!
Obama is the most liberal senator in congress and is pretending to be a moderate now?
Change you can believe in!
Obama associated with and was mentored by avowed communists.
Change you can believe in!
Obama didn’t pass any of his own legislation when in the Illinois Senate or the US Senate and often voted only present when he didn’t want to reveal what he really stood for.
Change you can believe in!
The best thing Obama has going for him is his speaking ability and his “Rock Star” appeal.
Change you can believe in!
Are tickets available to here him speak or to go to his concert?
Change you can believe in!
Father Phlegler spoke at his church at UCC.
Change you can believe in!
Obama is glad that gas prices are going up?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
Can you build it?
Yes we can!
Obama’s served only one term in the senate?
Change you can believe in!
Obama’s had no executive experience?
Change you can believe in!
Obama went to Chicago UCC for 20 years and didn’t hear what Pastor Jeremiah Wright said?
Change you can believe in!
Obama associated with a known domestic terrorist, William Ayres?
Change you can believe in!
Obama is the most liberal senator in congress and is pretending to be a moderate now?
Change you can believe in!
Obama associated with and was mentored by avowed communists.
Change you can believe in!
Obama didn’t pass any of his own legislation when in the Illinois Senate or the US Senate and often voted only present when he didn’t want to reveal what he really stood for.
Change you can believe in!
The best thing Obama has going for him is his speaking ability and his “Rock Star” appeal.
Change you can believe in!
Are tickets available to here him speak or to go to his concert?
Change you can believe in!
Father Phlegler spoke at his church at UCC.
Change you can believe in!
Obama is glad that gas prices are going up?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
What concrete plan has Obama presented for what he would do after being elected?
Change you can believe in!
You guys are too funny. Uh, I actually do know some “gay divorce lawyers”. They are lawyers, who are gay, and specialize in divorce.
But I’d use the meanest sumbitch I could find, gay or straight.
The constitution is just for white, straight, men?
Who knew?
Just repukes and christian dominionists I guess.
Hee hee hee hee heeeeee….
And I notice none of these conservative PUKES addressed the issue. Just attacked the poster.
Sucks to be them!
Divorce is STILL what destroys marriage. Not gay people. Stomp your feet all you want. It doesnt change the facts.
Something you should acquaint yourself with…
As Mary Chapin Carpenter would say “the stars might lie but the numbers never do”.
Massachusetts has the LOWEST divorce rate in the nation. Red states have the highest.
And that’s the facts, jack!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/article396496.ece
“Divorce is STILL what destroys marriage. Not gay people”
You are so overly sensitive Farmie. Always relating issues to your own lot in life, where no connection exists.
BTW, divorce is the “results” of a failed marriage. It is not the cause of it. The marriage was “destroyed” long before the final divorce decree.
But keep playing your tape recorder over-and-over again. I’m sure some sheep will eventually hear your tune and be presuaded there is a relationship where none exists.
Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids.
tippy? Is that you?
Silly Republicans. Tricks are for Larry Craig and David Vitter.
sniff, sniff, sniff…
I smell tippy.
My God, this is really hilarious: Who but the RR would send their pregnant daughters off to “boarding school”, so their fellow church members wouldn’t find out they actually tried sex? Who but the RR fought tooth and nail attempting to keep the authorities out of their homes so they could go on beating their wives and children, because, after all, a man’s home is his castle, ain’t it?
It sure as hell wasn’t the RR who finally got some protection for wives and kids; it was Liberals. But now the RR is so caught up in rushism, that divorce is no longer a big thing, because rush hisself does it on a yearly basis.
So pardon me if I refuse to chortle (a typical RR mouth fart), and instead guffaw at the antics posted by same said RR posters. Their hypocrisy is becoming legendary.
‘American way” answers for “American”
What a ….surprise.
“Not much has changed around here, since I left.”
Well “American”, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way back out.
My God, this is really hilarious: Who but the RR would send their pregnant daughters off to “boarding school”, so their fellow church members wouldn’t find out they actually tried sex? Who but the RR fought tooth and nail attempting to keep the authorities out of their homes so they could go on beating their wives and children, because, after all, a man’s home is his castle, ain’t it?
It sure as hell wasn’t the RR who finally got some protection for wives and kids; it was Liberals. But now the RR is so caught up in rushism, that divorce is no longer a big thing, because rush hisself does it on a yearly basis.
So pardon me if I refuse to chortle (a typical RR mouth fart), and instead guffaw at the antics posted by same said RR posters. Their hypocrisy is becoming legendary.