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Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.

Albert Einstein

Not sure on this, but dont think that this list has much to do with CLIMATE change:

…”surface temperature, rainfall, extreme weather events, rise in sea level, impacts on Himalayan glaciers.”

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generaston
Posted July 6, 2008 at 8:05 am | Permalink

So how exactly is Obama going to bring jobs back to America?
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How exactly is John McCain going to bring back jobs to America?

The way I learned it:

“I pledge allegiance To the Christian Flag
And to the Savior, For whose Kingdom it stands.
One brotherhood uniting all Christians in service and love.”

When did they rewrite the Christian flag pledge?

Maybe it depends on what brand your church is.

LOL

Chas that is the problem with you. There is only one brand of Christianity.

okobserver
Posted July 6, 2008 at 8:27 am | Permalink
Square peg your host body has early service. You should be leaving now.

Host body?

I guess ksgerm is a Borg.

I wish these idiots would get their heads screwed on straight. I wish to hell I could post here without being called a host of other names, besides the one I use… the only one I use! Can some of you brain-dead people get that simple fact through your thick, narrow minded skulls?

OK — In case you didnt notice, Chas said nothing about Christianity. Nor did I. So, just who the hell were you talking to? I thought people lost their imaginary friends when they grew up?

Obama Proposes Jobs Creation Strategy

Democratic Party candidate Sen. Barack Obama said that as president, he would propose a $210 billion job creation package that would stimulate the growth of jobs in the construction and environmental industries.

The 10-year program would devote $150 billion to creating “green collar” jobs aimed at developing clean energy, while the remainder would hire workers to maintain America’s public infrastructure, such as highways and airports.

Obama said that the jobs creation proposal would be funded by money currently being invested in the war in Iraq, along with the elimination of tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.
shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=68479
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How exactly is John McCain going to bring back jobs to America?

(Republican crickets chirping)

Gee, dont know there hackerpic, I read three of those top 5 stories already. The rest are hard to find online. But, you most likely already know that. LOL What a dweeb!

Here’s the results of giving enemy combatatants constitutional rights and lawyers in GITMO
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Three years ago, Adbullah Saleh al-Ajmi was safely locked away at Guantanamo Bay.

Two weeks ago, he blew himself up in Iraq, brutally murdering seven people.

How did he get out of his prison cell at Gitmo? Easy. His U.S.-based lawyers walked him out the front door!

That despite strong arguments from U.S. counter terrorism analysts arguing that al-Ajmi should under no circumstances be freed since…

* He deserted from the Kuwaiti army to participate in jihad in Afghanistan
* The Taliban supplied him with arms, including grenades
* He admitted fighting with the Taliban, including engaging in two or three firefights
* He was captured by coalition forces in the Tora Bora region, an area thought to be a hideout of Osama bin Laden
* Upon his arrival at Gitmo, he demonstrated “aggressive” behavior
* And based on a review of classified and unclassified documents, al-Ajmi was declared a threat to the U.S. and its allies

But after Al-Ajmi’s lawyers denied all the charges, the U.S. government folded and sent him back home to Kuwait.

Of course, now his family refers to him as “martyr Abdullah”.

- Human Events

So much for a link. Oh well. Didnt really expect one. Maybe later.

Al-Ajmi and released from Gitmo in 2005 was freed after a Kuwaiti trial in 2006.

We do not know who got to him in those intervening years to the time he committed his attack. We do not know the effect of living in a US-run facility where torture and humiliation at the hands of US personnel was rampant.

Could it be that his protestations of innocence were true and he was turned into a bomber in response to his treatment at GITMO? Was he a hardened jihadist to begin with?

The very nature of the unprecedented and cobbled-together detention scheme at Camp Delta makes knowing what really happened hard to know.

Lawyers may have walked him out the door, but some military decider unlocked that door.

Human Events makes a nice read, but it is not very enlightening. Clearly, to this point, the Bush “War on a Tactic” has not been successful. But one can hardly blame lawyers for that.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdallah_Saleh_Ali_Al_Ajmi

Got this in Email. Havent checked it on SNOPES.

Manure: In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship and it was also before commercial fertilizer’s invention, so large shipments of manure were common.

It was shipped dry, because in dry form it weighed a lot less than when wet, but once water (at sea) hit it, it not only became heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by product is methane gas. As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did) happen.

Methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below at night with a lantern, BOOOOM!

Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was determined just what was happening.

After that, the bundles of manure were always stamped with the term “Ship High In Transit” on them, which meant for the sailors to stow it high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane.

Thus evolved the term ” S.H.I.T ” , (Ship High In Transport) which has come down through the centuries and is in use to this very day.

You probably did not know the true history of this word. Neither did I.

“SquarePeg” –

I’ll bet all the coins and chalk in my pocket the “Ship High In Transit” is apocryphal hooey. But I like stuff like this.

Like all those theories about the origins of “the whole nine yards,” “get down to brass tacks,” “Port Out, Starboard Home” (for the best side of a ship when sailing to India; you miss the afternoon sun), “For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge…”

“Found On Road Dead.” “Fix It Again, Tony!” “Uncle Sam.”

KansasNative
Posted July 6, 2008 at 8:55 am | Permalink
Obama Proposes Jobs Creation Strategy

Democratic Party candidate Sen. Barack Obama said that as president, he would propose a $210 billion job creation package that would stimulate the growth of jobs in the construction and environmental industries.

The 10-year program would devote $150 billion to creating “green collar” jobs aimed at developing clean energy, while the remainder would hire workers to maintain America’s public infrastructure, such as highways and airports.

Obama said that the jobs creation proposal would be funded by money currently being invested in the war in Iraq, along with the elimination of tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.
shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=68479
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KansasNative go into any small town in Kansas and put this plan into action. The economy in that small town will die a slow death. With no new money added to the mix the economy can never grow. If all you are doing is taking from Peter to pay Paul then you are going nowhere. We are financing the war on borrowed funds or at least that is what WS says. How then can we take money we don’t have to fund a jobs project. Oh yes we are going to tax corporations and the rich. The real job creators.

They quit expanding because the government has made it too costly and private job growth stalls and starts to go into a negative growth. Where then will the tax dollars come from to finance these ‘green jobs’.

The libs really don’t get it. Wealth redistribution has never worked in the past and won’t in the future. As much as the dems would like to hate Bush for everything he has done they can’t deny that he can boast of having a good economy and job growth.

If this is indeed Obama’s plan hold onto your wallets. There aren’t enough rich taxpayers and corporations to bankroll this plan. He’ll be coming after us next.

Monkeyhawk, I suspect you are right, but it’s sort of fun anyway. However, the balls and brass monkey story is true! I checked that one with an old mariner historian.

“Remember the “niggardly” curfluffle a few years ago?”

Dont seem to remember that one!

“Dont seem to remember that one!”

I do – it was absolutely idiotic.

Niggardly – “an excessively parsimonious, miserly, or stingy person. ”

“http://www.niggardly.com/”

“The word first drew attention when a white man named David Howard used the term ‘niggardly’ to describe a situation with the budget in a public report. A black colleague member interpreted the word as an indirect racist slight and filed a complaint against Mr. Howard,. Due to the controversy this minor detail created, Howard resorted to resigning from his post, as aid to then Washington D.C. Mayor, a black man named Anthony Williams.”

Ksgerm

what’s McCain’s plan to create jobs?

Crickets continue to chirp…

“lindainks55″ poses –

“Some attempts at humor are seen as tasteless.

McCain: (Chuckling) And I stopped beating my wife just a couple of weeks ago….”

I think McC*nt’s wife-beating “joke” simply underscores just out old and out of touch he his with most of us.

He has no concept of people’s credit card debt problems because his heiress wife writes out a monthly check of $500,000 to American Express.

He’s admitted he is totally computer illiterate. Hey, it’s not like I’m writing code or anything, but somebody admitting total and purposeful ignorance of a computer in the year 2008 is like someone who never figured out how to dial a telephone in 1958.

McBush’s wife-beating joke was pure Henny Youngman, circa 1949.

McSame’s 100-year occupation of Iraq is rationalized on the 50-year-old South Korean model… except the South Koreans generally want us there (if only to pay the freight of their national security).

Iraq wants us out Iraq.

America wants us out of Iraq.

Only John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) and Osama bin Laden want us in Iraq.

“generaston” comes up with (for him) an “unanswerable” question –

“When did you stop jac*ing off in the closet?”

There is no answer that can keep you from looking like a perv.

How ’bout, “I never started”?

Or, “About the time I was twelve”?

Or, “Are you propositioning me? Go wait for me in the closet and report when I join you?”

No.

The 1950s wife-beating joke reference is still more indication that John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) is hopelessly out of touch with 21st Century America and, frankly, the 21st Century.

His hundred-year “strategy” in Iraq is, literally, trying to fight the Korean War in the wrong place at the wrong time, with (Rumsfeld’s) wrong army, against the wrong foe, for the wrong reasons.

Four More Years!
Four More Years!

Good afternoon, cosmos!

A dog analogy! I love it! I know a lot about dogs!

Even though you’ve changed your question some since your original post, it’s still irrelevant! Besides that, it doesn’t correspond to any dog competition I’m aware of.

So, like so many of your ‘probing’, in depth questions, I disagree with its premise. The answer would be almost as useless as the question.

But, thanks for playing.

The dog question made me think about basketball. How great would the big players be if the net were raised in proportion to the height of the player. Slam dunks would be a thing ot the past.

Dear cosmos,

There is no definite link between el nino and Global Warming.

Sorry.

How does a regional phenonemon such as el nino or la nina have any effect over the average global temperature?

The earth is not warming, cosmos.

If it is, man isn’t causing it.

Therefore, the Goracle’s carbon credits can’t save it.

“We are financing the war on borrowed funds or at least that is what WS says. How then can we take money we don’t have to fund a jobs project.”

Seems like a simple proposal. If we are financing the war on borrowed funds, then it is fairly obvious that those expenditures are not returning anything, in terms of productivity, on the “borrowed” investment funds.

However, if you use those same “borrowed” funds in creating “green” jobs, etc., those jobs created, and the industries built up, will produce a RETURN on the invested funds.

At some point, in theory at least, the Return on the Investment will re-pay the investment. Thats more than can be said on WAR money.

Yep — seems like a do-able proposal. And, if there are those who think there are no “Green” jobs that need created, just ask who is going to build the wind generators? Who is going to transport the wind generators? Who is going to do the computer programming for those factories? Who is going to Sell those generators? Who is going to maintain the Wind farms once they are established and running?

And thats just ONE “green” industry — How many more of those industries will be developed?

Seems like an extremely worthwhile investment process! And Lots of Jobs! Wow! And you dont even have to say “Al Gore” to make it happen!

Hank posted,

“There is no definite link between el nino and Global Warming.”

I never said that there was one — in fact, I stated the opposite.

ENSO causes natural, short-term temperature fluctuations. AGW is causing long-term global warming.

Hank: “How does a regional phenonemon such as el nino or la nina have any effect over the average global temperature?”

By warming or cooling the tropical Pacific, which is part of the “average global temperature”. And also by changing humidity levels (which also effects temperatures).

Hank: “Does Global Warming increase the frequency and severity of el nino? Or. . .does the el nino increase the severity of global warming?

Hank: “Which came first, the chicken or the egg?”
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Posted by: z | March 31, 2008 8:20 PM
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/03/remember_eg_becks_dodgy.php#comment-813954

“CO2 is not causing global warming, in fact, CO2 is lagging temperature change in all reliable datasets.”

See also my forthcoming paper:
“Chickens do not lay eggs, because they have been observed to hatch from them”.

Sounds like America’s hands aren’t much cleaner than Saddam’s:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080706/ap_on_re_as/korea_mass_executions_us_1

Dear cosmos,

Whoa!

“And also by changing humidity levels (which also effects temperatures).”

So, my little hysterical global warming friend, water vapor effects temperature! Hmmmm,

It’s amazing how little the UN IPCC mentions water vapor in chapter nine of their report!

I think you might have something here!

Hank,

Water vapor is a feedback, not a forcing like CO2 and other GHG’s.

And instead of quoting what Al Gore said a decade ago, you should read more recent research.

‘El Niño Affected By Global Warming’
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071220133426.htm

HLP – Can you stop thinking in terms of Meteorology, and think Planetary? Global? That might be a good beginning.

Thanks for all your help today Hank, you made everything so much easier! Dave and I are both grateful from the bottom of our hearts!!

AP Exclusive: US removes uranium from Iraq

“The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program – a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium – reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of “yellowcake” – the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment – was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam’s nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.”

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080706/D91O8E100.html

Hum, thought all you DemLibs said there wasn’t any.

Thanks cosmos,
I’m glad you thought enough to clarify for me. I did know that, but the point was that Saddam still had it at one time under his control, and we didn’t know for sure what else we didn’t know about.

Really?

This was a surprise?

Bryan Carisone, a heating and air-conditioning contractor in Raritan, N.J., “absolutely loves” his new GMC Denali XL, an extra-large sport utility vehicle with televisions built into the leather seats. But in June, one week after he bought it, he pulled into a station on a near-empty tank and watched the total climb higher and higher — to $109.

“It just about killed me,” Mr. Carisone said.

At the beginning of June, oil was selling for $138 a barrel. Yet at some point during that month, Mr. Carisone bought an “extra large” SUV, and was then shocked to discover how much it cost to fill the tank.

Wow.

Just, wow.

Note that the name of the SUV is an anagram for “denial”…