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International Herald Tribune reports:

The U.S. Defense Department has extended the combat tour of 2,200 Marines in Afghanistan after insisting for months the unit would come home on time.

He added that commanders in Afghanistan “asked for 30 more days to milk the fighting season to the bitter end and cement the gains they have made in the south.”

Meanwhile, an ex-Marine sitteth in Wichita and judges just who is and who isn’t a “christian.”

The fear and paranoia of the rightwing wackos is endless.

Sub22…get professional help…you are nuts.

More paranoia from our resident right wingnut wacko.

Considering that McCnt refuse to wear an American flag pin…he will be safe.

The unpatriotic McShame is the Manchurian Candidate refusing to wear the flag of freedom.

RUSSIA REJECTS EU UNILATERALISM

The Russian embassy in Ottawa is suggesting next week’s G8 summit in Japan won’t likely produce hard targets for cutting the world’s greenhouse-gas emissions. Embassy official Sergey Khudyakov says Russia isn’t ruling out firm reduction goals for the years 2020 and 2050 - but he adds the summit on the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido isn’t the place to set global targets.

Khudyakov says the role of the Group of Eight wealthy, industrialized nations is to hatch ideas to help the world solve the problem of climate change, not dictate global policy. He says the Russian position is closely aligned with the Canadian government’s in opposing any pact that doesn’t include the world’s biggest polluters, like China and India.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has also said any climate change plan must also balance environmental and economic concerns. The G8 includes Britain, Canada, the U.S., France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Russia.

Source:

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5iacK5U4PNapvwZYwKpcgBZXeCkXw

Well, well, well! Happy Day After to you all! I hope you and yours had a safe and enjoyable Fourth.

We had a blast yesterday! I enjoyed the company of my kids and grandkids and their Aunts, Uncles and cousins, grilled up some traditional Fourth of July fare, we all ate like refugees, cracked a few and had our own fireworks display.

All in all, it was a great day for family and fun.

After dinner but before the fireworks, I sat on the porch with my son in law, beneath the Flag waving in the soft breeze, and we opined that we live in a truly great country.

Let’s hope that we can do it all again next year, but with our brave men and women home from Iraq and a president we can honestly respect in the White House.

Happy Fifth of July to you all!!!

Not much danger in that, KN,

Nope, the global warming alarmists have lost the battle, we’re all going to die now by being boiled in our own juices.

For ten years they’ve said that if we ‘don’t act now’ it’ll be too late. Now it’s too late!

Problems with their hysterical propaganda:

The earth isn’t warming, hasn’t for the last ten years. Even the dumbest amongst us will soon figure that out!

Man isn’t causing global warming, therefore he can’t stop it if it’s happening. A bunch of liberal, guilt ridden activists changing their light bulbs and recycling their New Yorker magazines won’t help.

If the earth does warm up because of natural causes all indications are that it will be beneficial to mankind.

So, my greenie little friends, keep pushing your global warming hysteria, when the price of new diesel pusher motor homes drops another 10% because of fuel prices I might just buy one!

“Please ya’ll, do me a favor and read about my amazing friend.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/jul/05/victim_had_worked_reduce_violence_against_women/

“There are some wonderful videos of her.”

I did. Sorry for all of our losses and especially the loss to her family and friends.

Oh I didn’t realize she had lobbied for you too! Yes, all parts of justice she had a hand in. LGBT is also on our main ‘to-do’, so her sliding over to your group would have been very natural.

That’s what I”ve been saying, everyone who knew her just knows what a huge huge loss this is.

I guess if she had been pregnant when she was killed, then people would have a lot more to say about it.

HMPH. But I do appreciate everyone who has said something about it.

Looks like some laws ERISA needs to be changed.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080705/ap_on_go_su_co/benefit_battles_3

WSClark
Posted July 4, 2008 at 1:26 am | Permalink

“Sorry, Price, my granddaughter meant to say “phuck you, Price, you self-righteous hypocrite” but she needed to get back to bed.”

And your point is, Price?

“best way to keep him from digging - he has one favorite spot - when outside?” — bth.

A non-digging dog is not a dog. That is why a good kennel has concrete floors.

Ben,

Check your email.

Boy,

Call me.

Didn’t find the key and Dave needs help.

Pa

Ben,

Don’t know if it will help your dog, but what we did when we had large dogs, was to lay down some chicken wire and folded it over a couple of times.

I guess any type of wire fencing would work, as long as it doesn’t hurt the dog.

A layer of thin topsoil over the fencing and some cayenne pepper mixed in with the soil if they are persistent.

We had one neighbor that used to lay pine cones around his fence line to keep the dogs from digging, seem to work, but his dogs were disciplined and most likely wouldn’t dig anyway.

He also used the pine cone to teach them for a soft-bite. That’s so when they retrieved water fowl they got into the habit of not biting hard down on the fowl and used a soft bite to pick it up and carry it.

thanks hank and regular. I think I’ll end up putting rocks there. Funny thing is it’s just one little area. I think he is after the cool under the dirt.

ENSO corrected temperature anomalies,

‘Global trends and ENSO’
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/07/global-trends-and-enso/
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‘Is realclimate.org biased?’
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080214094138AA4BQFA
“The correct answer is “NO”, not at all.

The climate scientists writing for realclimate.org do so on their own time with NO compensation. The generosity of EMS to pay for hosting a web-site (something probably costing around $50/month - whoopee!!!) so the truth of climate change can be presented in a manner non-climate scientists can understand has no influence on the content.

If the guys at realclimate wanted to make money, they’d make a heck of a lot more prostituting themselves to the energy industry, where a single paper can easily net one $10,000.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/feb/02/frontpagenews.climatechange
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Yes, it seems to be biased towards science. Its agenda seems to be to educate and inform.

There are many oil industry-funded sites with a clear political bias, spouting crazy theories about socialists, communists, global conspiracies, and other fanciful tall tales, but RealClimate.org seems to entirely avoid that sort of manipulative alarmism.
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Pmom, I’m so sorry for your loss, she seemed like a great person. I worked women’s treatment for so long, it always amazed me how many intelligent and successful women needed to “fix their pickers” when it came to men. He was obviously a loser of the worst type. I hope they find the bastard soon.

Thanks for the offer good neighbor…we’ll let you know if we need help. Dave thinks I’m still a 30 yr old superwoman or something..he can be delusional like that sometimes.

bth if it’s only one spot you’re lucky! I say let him have it. I’ve tried covering spots with wire, but they’ll just soon find another spot to dig. Eventually you run out of wire. Or much of the yard is covered.

Turns out, when it comes to prosecuting crazy murdering cult leaders, putting Charlie Manson in the pokey was just a warm-up exercise for Vince
Bugliosi.

His latest book, “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder” calls for the prosecution of George Bush for the murder of over 4,000 Americans; that George WMD Bush should be prosecuted for murder as soon as he leaves office, when his “protection” from civil prosecution ends.

The evidence he presents so far is incontrovertible, drawn from public statements already on record.

And Vince is serious. He’s offered his legal advice, and his services as lead prosecutor for these crimes.

He’s sought advice from bar associations and prominent legal minds and their opinion has been stunning - they support him.

Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder…..
What a bunch of STUPID JACKASSES!
GET REAL
He will retire to Crawford…healthy, wealthy and wise. Oh, and laughing at the jackasses like you.

I saw that Payne. Too bad he let himself off so easy. I had actually been hoping for a much more painful outcome.

I don’t understand why people are so pro-death penalty. If the crime is bad enough, I want to see them have to live with the consequences for the rest of their lives.

“Boxlock” trots out the ol’ “It’s the Democrats’ fault because they fell for Shrub’s lies!” defense.

“The Democrats should have known we were lying! So it’s their fault!”

That’s the classic defense tactic of Con men; “Our marks were greedy, so we just took advantage of ‘em.”

(That’s why they’re called “CONs.”)

I gotta sorta admire you for your capacity of bulls#it audacity.

Keep working that strategy.

I have a dream…

It’s sometime in the future…

On his ranch in Texas, George bush gives his illegal alien brush clearers a break when one of the chainsaws runs out of gas.

In the distance, there is a sound.

It’s a siren.

“Heh, I hope that’s not you boys’s ride.” bush quips.

The sound of the siren grows louder, and a cloud of dust approaches up the road.

They’re not turning off.

The column of vehicles arrives at the bush ranch….and pull into the drive.

Agents emerge from the vehicle and surround bush. They ask “George W. bush?”

“I’m President George W. Bush” the man replies. ” Cheney put you up to this? heh heh”

A stern face agent answers. “You are no longer to be addressed as President mr bush. You are under arrest.”

“Ok boys, this has been pretty funny. Who putcha up to it?”

“George W. Bush, you have the right to remain silent.”

Etc.

Etc.

“Report: Uranium Stockpile Removed From Iraq in Secret U.S. Mission”

You CONveniently forgot a key point, McCluer - all of the uranium removed was pre-1991.

In other words, Saddam obtained the yellowcake when he was a US ally.

“(chortles)”

Pre-1991. US ally. Before the first Gulf War.

(chortles and pukes)

Same article……………..

“Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/page/2/

Doesn’t matter Clark, the existence of the material proves that Saddam Hussein had a nuclear program and nuclear facilities.

You lying libs said over and over he did not.

It appears you are all liars or should I say repeated liars.

550 Metric tons is a lot.

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WSClark
Posted July 5, 2008 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

“Doesn’t matter Clark.”

US ally - nuclear program - good.

US foe - nuclear program - bad.

And…………………….

“which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War.”

In other words, it had not been touched since he was a US ally.
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But Clark, you and your Lib cry me a river buddies claimed there were no materials to make nuclear weapons and nothing was ever found.

Were you lying then and suddenly now have a moment of discovery that everyone knew the material existed but the Libs who knew it existed as well, but lied about it existing?

I think the lying has come to a halt.

The truth is out.

Libs lied. People died.

“But Clark, you and your Lib cry me a river buddies claimed there were no materials to make nuclear weapons and nothing was ever found.”

Sigh, not true, and you know it.

Christ.

This is like arguing with a barking dog. McCluer makes a lot of noise but never says anything that makes sense.

Libs lied, people died.

They will keep trying to make Cheney not look like a liar, no matter how long it takes; no matter how many outdated FOX NEWS items they have to dig up….

Just cant accept a LYING administration… and a MADE UP war…. I remember people who said the government set up Nixon… Sounds like the same thing here….

Yea, but the libs voted for it, before they voted against it…

Sure they did…. They voted on the basis of BAD INFORMATION!!! Bad information provided by a LYING CONNIVING BUSH ADMINISTRATION, HELL BENT ON WAR BEFORE HE WAS EVEN ELECTED!!!

What President came up with the Democratization of Iraq plan?

Clinton did of course.

That conniving Democratic President who warned all about Hussein’s WMD capabilities and his connection in promoting terrorism.

Libs lied, people died.

Just a barking dog……………. an ugly dog at that.

Who is the bigger fool, the one that planned to overthrow Sadam, or the one that carried it out?
The “Clinton did it too” defense. How clever.

President Clinton destroyed Iraqi facilites in December 1998.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Fox

The wrong strategy. . .
‘Post-Saddam Iraq: The War Game’
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/index.htm
” “Desert Crossing” 1999 Assumed 400,000 Troops and Still a Mess”

Iraqi Uranium Removed. No WMD’s though. (cough)

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gUzCIe4JyTofL4u4RnaUn-75BV2QD91NRH480

AP Exclusive: US removes uranium from Iraq
By BRIAN MURPHY – 6 hours ago

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program — a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium — reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of “yellowcake” — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam’s nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

Democratizing a country doesn’t imply by armed forces, at least it didn’t up until bush stole office.

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Phantom
Posted July 5, 2008 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

Democratizing a country doesn’t imply by armed forces, at least it didn’t up until bush stole office.
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Yes, duh Libs would want to play patty cake with Saddam Hussein and kindly ask him to step down, so the U.S. could put in a democratic change with a constitution.

Libs lied, people died.

That strategy worked with a much bigger and more powerful country, now didn’t it?

Check this out >>>>

http://www.master-max.net/max_new/Gallery3.htm

If it weren’t for non sequiturs, poor ol’ “MaxGrobnik” wouldn’t have any sequiturs at all, as when (apparently prompted by the voices in his head, “MaxGrobnik” come up with –

“Super Lib Monkey Brain wants the troops to surrender in Iraq and NOW Afghanistan!”

Let me step up and speak for all of us who pay attention to this forum and ask the pertinent question:

Huh?

For starters, just who would troops “surrender” to in Iraq? The Shi’ites? The Sunis? (Does John Sidney McCain the Third — for Shrub’s 3rd term — know the difference yet?)

Shrub’s little Afghanistan adventure has revived the opium business, the warlord business, and the Taliban. Just which of those are you imagining “…White-Flag Waving by the Extremist Left?” And at whom?

Non of the enemies George WMD Bush has created for America want to accept “surrender.” As long as Shrub is Commander in Chief, al Qaeda and the Taliban and the warlords and the opium kings are thriving!

What would John McSame do?

Four more years!
Four more years!

Good luck with that strategy.

An international effort made Sadaam a toothless old dog, surrounded and impotent.

It was old Rummy over there shakin’ hands with him, as I recall….

Now after five years in Iraq, the U.S. military has suffered over 33,000 casualties, more than 29,000 wounded and 4,000 dead…

And now these jokers are tying to blame “liberals” for something?

Are you confused about the yellow cake story? Bushies claimed Iraq was trying to buy more yellowcake.. that was the lie…..

Did ya notice the Source is Obama’s own web site?

Crap, Obama’s gonna evacuate Iraq and poor MORE troops into Afghanistan AND invade Pakistan!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post_group/ObamaHQ/CpHR

Obama declared that the war in Iraq and Bush’s failed foreign policy had made us less safe than we were before 9/11, and outlined a new, comprehensive strategy to fight global terrorism:

By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences…

When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing the capabilities and partnerships we need to take out the terrorists and the world’s most deadly weapons; engaging the world to dry up support for terror and extremism; restoring our values; and securing a more resilient homeland.

DavidB
Posted July 5, 2008 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

An international effort made Sadaam a toothless old dog, surrounded and impotent.

It was old Rummy over there shakin’ hands with him, as I recall….

Now after five years in Iraq, the U.S. military has suffered over 33,000 casualties, more than 29,000 wounded and 4,000 dead…

And now these jokers are tying to blame “liberals” for something?

Are you confused about the yellow cake story? Bushies claimed Iraq was trying to buy more yellowcake.. that was the lie…
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The Great Society Programs of the 1960s, Welfare, Government housing and medicaid after 40 plus years are not only insolvent, but devoid of funds.

They have not reduced the poor, they have not solved the need for housing the poor and have not taken care of the medical needs of the poor.

Almost five decades of failed policies by the Liberal Democrats which have cost hundreds of thousands of lives in gang violence and perpetuating the ghetto models Libs so desperately seek to keep minorities in their place.

Blast from the past: Pentagon spokesman defends Clinton administration record on military, defense
From CNN National Security Producer Chris Plante
August 1, 2000
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Pentagon spokesman Ken Bacon on Tuesday defended the administration’s record on defense, returning fire from Republicans at the GOP convention, who will use the event to accuse the Clinton adminstration of overextending the armed forces and allowing U.S. military readiness to slip.

archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/01/clinton.defense/index.html

“How many tons do you need for a bomb Clark?”

In storage since before Gulf War I, Grabby.

And in case you can’t read, the material was not nearly “bomb” ready.

“BlueJay
Posted July 4, 2008 at 10:21 pm | Permalink
“It would overrule business owners’ ability to run their businesses as they know best. ”

In other words, they would no longer be free to be exploitive leeches on the population and tyrannize the poor slobs who have to work for them.

Bring it on.”

Who do you HAVE to work for BluestJay?

If you are being tyrannized, then quit, and find another job, Oakey, Dokey?

No need to worry about yellow cake then I guess.

Well Max, good for Obama, take the fight to where the people that attacked us are! What a novel idea, too bad bush didn’t do it.

Clearly the man has driven himself insane…..

Pretty hypocritical of ya there James.

“Conserving” that government aid to yourself?

You live amazingly well on the dole. But a mind with as much as yours to share and your skills with a keyboard and monitor? I say you should be transitioned from welfare to work.

No need to obfuscate, the liberal Democratic Party policies have killed hundreds of thousands right here at home due to gang violence predicated by keeping poor people cooped up in government housing and subject to “feed ya as we need ya” programs.

Libs lied, people died.
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Bush lied, a country was invaded and thousands died as well. But back on your little ditty: There were no poor prior to us trying to help them get a leg up? There were no gangs? No Ghettos? Yep, your right. It was a perfect world prior to the libs, wasn’t it?

Could it have been the failed policies of the republicans that led to the democrats calling for assistance for the poor? Seems to me there were a bunch of republican leaders calling for less police intrusion into the lives of people, because, God forbid, people who beat their wives and kids should have that God given right, right?

And don’t even attempt to be poor in the old republican world. You would be run out of town, sent to jail, hounded until you jump off a bridge. Don’t forget to send your pregnant daughter to a “boarding school”, so the neighbors don’t find out she actually knows what sex is (the birds and bees thing didn’t work out too well, did it). Or, better yet, take them to some back alley for a coat-hanger abortion.

My point, reg, is BOTH parties screwed up, and neither has the huevos to correct the problems. So pontificate all you want, but the truth is you ain’t got a clue as to what’s really going on; only the crap people like rush, coulter and the rest tell you. It’s the fourth of July weekend: Independence Day. Go back and reread the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. You might have missed something in the third grade.

Don’t pay any attention to Hank Price’s posts.

He makes them while “napping”.

Hanks posts are kinda like sleep-walking. . .

HLP posted July 5, 2008 at 3:31 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-75/#comment-378714

“Call me when he’s ready, I’m napping now.“

You’re starting to sound a little shrill, cosmos! I’m sharper than you even when I’m ‘napping’!

Chas, Posted July 5, 2008 at 7:49 pm\
“Well, I’m outta here for now…. looks like another All James, All Night, All BS show to me… Later…. maybe….”

As they would say in the movie Poltergeist about Chas….”HE’LL BE BACK”!!!
Ever notice how Chas leaves, BUT DOESN’T? He never does, he’ll be up until ‘3:something’ in the morning not able to leave, with nothing better to do than yield to his addiction to the the blog, trying to prove something, like maybe his worth.
Not the sign of a very confident, or at peace minister now is it?
Poor Chas…try and get a life Chas.
Ideal Chas, turn off the computer, go to bed, stay there, don’t turn on the computer for the whole next day, try and contemplate your life and what it’s value is and reflect on what you wish it were. Then make changes.
Wish you the best, you need it.

Typical BOXLOCK ad hominem… all he/she’s got!!

ROFL!!!

Boxlock,

The multi-nic’d ‘Regular’s, aka “James”, last post tonight seems to have been at 9:15 pm.

It was not an “All James, All Night, All BS show”.

And since the “napping” Hank still has not answered my question, maybe Boxlock can answer it?

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-75/#comment-378683

Cosmos says >>>>

The multi-nic’d ‘Regular’s, aka “James”, last post tonight seems to have been at 9:15 pm.

It was not an “All James, All Night, All BS show”.
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Hmmmm … Guess not, Cosmos…. Sure looked like it might be, though… oh well, Hallelujah!!!

What Obama REALLY said >>>>

‘”If you look at our position, it’s been very consistent,” he said. “I am unwavering in the belief that this has been a strategic mistake and that this war has to end. It would be a further strategic mistake for us to continue with an open-ended occupation of the sort that John McCain has promised.”

Obama said his willingness to consider changing conditions on the ground and the potential ramifications of the pull-out plan was a strength — and a sharp contrast to Republican President George W. Bush’s stay-the-course strategy in Iraq.

“The tactics of how we ensure our troops are safe as we pull out, how we execute the withdrawal — those are things that are all based on facts and conditions,” he said.

“I’m not somebody who, like George Bush, is willing to ignore facts on the basis of my preconceived notions. I want to pay attention to what is happening on the ground.”

Under heavy pressure from McCain, who criticized his failure to visit Iraq since 2006, Obama plans to travel to Iraq and Afghanistan. The dates have not been announced for security reasons but the trip is expected within the next month.’

http://www.kfab.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=3916377