Chas
Posted June 30, 2008 at 3:01 am | Permalink
“I do not swear at posters”
Chas
Posted May 8, 2008 at 6:47 pm | Permalink
Yep… as suspected — Nothing of substance from James when cornered — Just stupid goddam ad hominem bullshit!!! Just as always!!
JERK!!!
Chas
Posted June 30, 2008 at 3:01 am | Permalink
“I do not swear at posters”
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Chas
Posted July 3, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink
Of course Tiller has an interest in each case… But the SECOND physician is independent of Tiller…. Ya cant spin that one, McDumbscheis… Tray another one??
HUD — As anybody can plainly see, what you posted above(cut/paste) is NOT swearing at a poster… It is a comment on the subject of the posting of another poster…
Chas
Posted June 30, 2008 at 3:01 am | Permalink
“I do not swear at posters”
Chas
Posted May 8, 2008 at 6:47 pm | Permalink
Yep… as suspected — Nothing of substance from James when cornered — Just stupid goddam ad hominem bullshit!!! Just as always!!
JERK!!!
NEW YORK (Associated Press) — Rush Limbaugh will make about $38 million a year to continue his radio show over the next eight years. In addition, he says will be getting a nine-figure signing bonus from Premiere Radio Networks.
Shame!!!! But shows that if he can get a job regular should be able to get one too …… both mindless idiots who’s only goal in life is to encourage small mindedness and create a division in our society —- how so very unpatriotic —- happy independence day regular -
Please excuse my ignorance, but the question I have is why anyone who is not a believer in the faith would want to be tied down with “Marriage”?
Have you considered all the pros and cons of the marriage contract?
I believe that most of the major pros can be taken care of with contracts. Here are a few of the cons you might want to consider if you are not a believer of the Christian faith.
1. Right off you have the marriage income tax penalty
2. You are liable for you marriage partner debt.
3. This is a big one - .If your marriage partner becomes disabled, you would have to spend down your assets before they can get Medicaid to pay for the nursing home.
Why would anyone, straight or gay that is not of the faith want to have all the disadvantages of marriage?
R-A Dont know what being “of the faith” has to do with marriage… People of MANY faiths take part in marriage… Guess you do know that… On second thought…. maybe not!!
I work down at the Pizza Pit
And I drive an old Hyundai
I still live with my mom and dad
I’m 5 foot 3 and overweight
I’m a scifi fanatic
A mild asthmatic
And I’ve never been to second base
But there’s whole ‘nother me
That you need to see
Go checkout MySpace
‘Cause online I’m out in Hollywood
I’m 6 foot 5 and I look damn good
I drive a Maserati
I’m a black-belt in karate
And I love a good glass of wine
It turns girls on that I’m mysterious
I tell them I don’t want nothing serious
‘Cause even on a slow day
I could have a three way
Chat with two women at one time
I’m so much cooler online
So much cooler online
When I get home I kiss my mom
And she fixes me a snack
And I head down to my basement bedroom
And fire under my yak
In real life the only time I’ve ever even been to L.A
Is when I got the chance with the marching band
To play tuba in the Rose Parade
Online I live in Malibu
I pose for Calvin Klein, I’ve been in GQ
I’m single and I’m rich
And I’ve got a set of six pack abs that would blow your mind
It turns girls on that I’m mysterious
I tell them I don’t want nothing serious
‘Cause even on a slow day
I could have a three way
Chat with two women at one time
I’m so much cooler online
Yeah, I’m cooler online
When you got my kind of stats
It’s hard to get a date
Let alone a real girlfriend
But I grow another foot and I lose a bunch of weight
Every time I login
Online
I’m out in Hollywood
I’m 6 foot 5 and I look damn good
Even on a slow day
I could have a three way
Chat with two women at one time
I’m so much cooler online
Yeah, I’m cooler online
I’m so much cooler online
Yeah, I’m cooler online
Annie — Dont know if it will help answer your question much, but….
A number of years ago, some members of my congregation asked me to attend the wedding ceremony of one of their family members…
It was a very pretty ceremony…. had the right kind of dresses, and flowers, and music, and the reception was just teriffic…
At the end of the Ceremony, the Pastor, in his $600 Hart/Schaefner/Marx suit, said: And now God in his Infinite Wisdom, send many years of Blessing on the union of these two, now standing before us… And Bless them with the gifts of the Holy Ghost, and of the world in which we live… Amen!!
TWO WEEKS LATER…..
My phone rang… It was those same family members…. crying profusely…. the bad news… Gary had shot and killed Janice… The funeral would be Saturday…. Would I go with them…. I said I would….
I had to bite my tongue HARD, when that preacher in that $600 suit(see above) stood up and started out that service:
Dear Friends, God in his infinite wisdom has called his daughter Janice home to be with him…. AND I NEARLY LOST IT….
These two were “Devout Believers and Followers” They were in the “Young Disciples Club” at this “church”.
And yet, on that fatal Thursday night, Gary and some of his friends, were working on his old jalopy truck… and also working on a half gallon of Jim Beam…. And, at 10 p.m. his friends went home… And Gary went into the house… And he demanded that Janice fix him dinner…. he was hungry and tired… he deserved to be FED!!
Janice said, But Gary, I already fixed you and your buddies steaks at 7 p.m….. Are you sure you want MORE now???
Gary went into their bedroom…. came out with his .38 caliber revolver…. and SHOT her 6 times… at point blank range…
Somehow, I didnt see that as God in infinite wisdom using Gary’s drunken Stupor and his precious GUN, as calling Janice Home….
Sometimes I think the last thing some of these people seek divine guidance for is Marriage….
Sorry for the long answer, Annie… But, I hope that helps answer your question…
Whether or not you agree with Dr. Ron Paul and his views. You have to admit that this speech is spot on. His understanding of money and economics is unmatched in Congress. Enjoy.
Something Big is Going On
The following statement is written by Congressman Paul about the pending financial disaster. He will introduce this statement as a special order and insert it into the Congressional Record next week. Fortunately, we have the opportunity to debut it first on the Campaign for Liberty blog. It reads as follows:
I have, for the past 35 years, expressed my grave concern for the future of America. The course we have taken over the past century has threatened our liberties, security and prosperity. In spite of these long-held concerns, I have days—growing more frequent all the time—when I’m convinced the time is now upon us that some Big Events are about to occur. These fast-approaching events will not go unnoticed. They will affect all of us. They will not be limited to just some areas of our country. The world economy and political system will share in the chaos about to be unleashed.
Though the world has long suffered from the senselessness of wars that should have been avoided, my greatest fear is that the course on which we find ourselves will bring even greater conflict and economic suffering to the innocent people of the world—unless we quickly change our ways.
America, with her traditions of free markets and property rights, led the way toward great wealth and progress throughout the world as well as at home. Since we have lost our confidence in the principles of liberty, self reliance, hard work and frugality, and instead took on empire building, financed through inflation and debt, all this has changed. This is indeed frightening and an historic event.
The problem we face is not new in history. Authoritarianism has been around a long time. For centuries, inflation and debt have been used by tyrants to hold power, promote aggression, and provide “bread and circuses” for the people. The notion that a country can afford “guns and butter” with no significant penalty existed even before the 1960s when it became a popular slogan. It was then, though, we were told the Vietnam War and a massive expansion of the welfare state were not problems. The seventies proved that assumption wrong.
Today things are different from even ancient times or the 1970s. There is something to the argument that we are now a global economy. The world has more people and is more integrated due to modern technology, communications, and travel. If modern technology had been used to promote the ideas of liberty, free markets, sound money and trade, it would have ushered in a new golden age—a globalism we could accept.
Instead, the wealth and freedom we now enjoy are shrinking and rest upon a fragile philosophic infrastructure. It is not unlike the levies and bridges in our own country that our system of war and welfare has caused us to ignore.
I’m fearful that my concerns have been legitimate and may even be worse than I first thought. They are now at our doorstep. Time is short for making a course correction before this grand experiment in liberty goes into deep hibernation.
There are reasons to believe this coming crisis is different and bigger than the world has ever experienced. Instead of using globalism in a positive fashion, it’s been used to globalize all of the mistakes of the politicians, bureaucrats and central bankers.
Being an unchallenged sole superpower was never accepted by us with a sense of humility and respect. Our arrogance and aggressiveness have been used to promote a world empire backed by the most powerful army of history. This type of globalist intervention creates problems for all citizens of the world and fails to contribute to the well-being of the world’s populations. Just think how our personal liberties have been trashed here at home in the last decade.
The financial crisis, still in its early stages, is apparent to everyone: gasoline prices over $4 a gallon; skyrocketing education and medical-care costs; the collapse of the housing bubble; the bursting of the NASDAQ bubble; stockmarkets plunging; unemployment rising;, massive underemployment; excessive government debt; and unmanageable personal debt. Little doubt exists as to whether we’ll get stagflation. The question that will soon be asked is: When will the stagflation become an inflationary depression?
There are various reasons that the world economy has been globalized and the problems we face are worldwide. We cannot understand what we’re facing without understanding fiat money and the long-developing dollar bubble.
There were several stages. From the inception of the Federal Reserve System in 1913 to 1933, the Central Bank established itself as the official dollar manager. By 1933, Americans could no longer own gold, thus removing restraint on the Federal Reserve to inflate for war and welfare.
By 1945, further restraints were removed by creating the Bretton-Woods Monetary System making the dollar the reserve currency of the world. This system lasted up until 1971. During the period between 1945 and 1971, some restraints on the Fed remained in place. Foreigners, but not Americans, could convert dollars to gold at $35 an ounce. Due to the excessive dollars being created, that system came to an end in 1971.
It’s the post Bretton-Woods system that was responsible for globalizing inflation and markets and for generating a gigantic worldwide dollar bubble. That bubble is now bursting, and we’re seeing what it’s like to suffer the consequences of the many previous economic errors.
Ironically in these past 35 years, we have benefited from this very flawed system. Because the world accepted dollars as if they were gold, we only had to counterfeit more dollars, spend them overseas (indirectly encouraging our jobs to go overseas as well) and enjoy unearned prosperity. Those who took our dollars and gave us goods and services were only too anxious to loan those dollars back to us. This allowed us to export our inflation and delay the consequences we now are starting to see.
But it was never destined to last, and now we have to pay the piper. Our huge foreign debt must be paid or liquidated. Our entitlements are coming due just as the world has become more reluctant to hold dollars. The consequence of that decision is price inflation in this country—and that’s what we are witnessing today. Already price inflation overseas is even higher than here at home as a consequence of foreign central bank’s willingness to monetize our debt.
Printing dollars over long periods of time may not immediately push prices up–yet in time it always does. Now we’re seeing catch-up for past inflating of the monetary supply. As bad as it is today with $4 a gallon gasoline, this is just the beginning. It’s a gross distraction to hound away at “drill, drill, drill” as a solution to the dollar crisis and high gasoline prices. Its okay to let the market increase supplies and drill, but that issue is a gross distraction from the sins of deficits and Federal Reserve monetary shenanigans.
This bubble is different and bigger for another reason. The central banks of the world secretly collude to centrally plan the world economy. I’m convinced that agreements among central banks to “monetize” U.S. debt these past 15 years have existed, although secretly and out of the reach of any oversight of anyone—especially the U.S. Congress that doesn’t care, or just flat doesn’t understand. As this “gift” to us comes to an end, our problems worsen. The central banks and the various governments are very powerful, but eventually the markets overwhelm when the people who get stuck holding the bag (of bad dollars) catch on and spend the dollars into the economy with emotional zeal, thus igniting inflationary fever.
This time—since there are so many dollars and so many countries involved—the Fed has been able to “paper” over every approaching crisis for the past 15 years, especially with Alan Greenspan as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, which has allowed the bubble to become history’s greatest.
The mistakes made with excessive credit at artificially low rates are huge, and the market is demanding a correction. This involves excessive debt, misdirected investments, over-investments, and all the other problems caused by the government when spending the money they should never have had. Foreign militarism, welfare handouts and $80 trillion entitlement promises are all coming to an end. We don’t have the money or the wealth-creating capacity to catch up and care for all the needs that now exist because we rejected the market economy, sound money, self reliance and the principles of liberty.
Since the correction of all this misallocation of resources is necessary and must come, one can look for some good that may come as this “Big Even” unfolds.
There are two choices that people can make. The one choice that is unavailable to us is to limp along with the status quo and prop up the system with more debt, inflation and lies. That won’t happen.
One of the two choices, and the one chosen so often by government in the past is that of rejecting the principles of liberty and resorting to even bigger and more authoritarian government. Some argue that giving dictatorial powers to the President, just as we have allowed him to run the American empire, is what we should do. That’s the great danger, and in this post-911 atmosphere, too many Americans are seeking safety over freedom. We have already lost too many of our personal liberties already. Real fear of economic collapse could prompt central planners to act to such a degree that the New Deal of the 30’s might look like Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence.
The more the government is allowed to do in taking over and running the economy, the deeper the depression gets and the longer it lasts. That was the story of the 30ss and the early 40s, and the same mistakes are likely to be made again if we do not wake up.
But the good news is that it need not be so bad if we do the right thing. I saw “Something Big” happening in the past 18 months on the campaign trail. I was encouraged that we are capable of waking up and doing the right thing. I have literally met thousands of high school and college kids who are quite willing to accept the challenge and responsibility of a free society and reject the cradle-to-grave welfare that is promised them by so many do-good politicians.
If more hear the message of liberty, more will join in this effort. The failure of our foreign policy, welfare system, and monetary policies and virtually all government solutions are so readily apparent, it doesn’t take that much convincing. But the positive message of how freedom works and why it’s possible is what is urgently needed.
One of the best parts of accepting self reliance in a free society is that true personal satisfaction with one’s own life can be achieved. This doesn’t happen when the government assumes the role of guardian, parent or provider, because it eliminates a sense of pride. But the real problem is the government can’t provide the safety and economic security that it claims. The so-called good that government claims it can deliver is always achieved at the expense of someone else’s freedom. It’s a failed system and the young people know it.
Restoring a free society doesn’t eliminate the need to get our house in order and to pay for the extravagant spending. But the pain would not be long-lasting if we did the right things, and best of all the empire would have to end for financial reasons. Our wars would stop, the attack on civil liberties would cease, and prosperity would return. The choices are clear: it shouldn’t be difficult, but the big event now unfolding gives us a great opportunity to reverse the tide and resume the truly great American Revolution started in 1776. Opportunity knocks in spite of the urgency and the dangers we face.
Let’s make “Something Big is Happening” be the discovery that freedom works and is popular and the big economic and political event we’re witnessing is a blessing in disguise.
And Hank, as usual, attacks the poster, and not the post… Kinda figured one of you wing nuts would have a few comments…. And I figured they wouldnt have anything to do with the story….
AND, before you even start in that direction, the story is NOT about GUNS…
ksfarmgrrl
Posted July 3, 2008 at 9:46 am | Permalink
So right angle, why do STRAIGHT people want to be married? I mean, if it’s such a bad deal and all?
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Sorry but that was my question which I have not received a reply for yet “Why would anyone, STRAIGHT or gay that is not of the faith want to have all the disadvantages of marriage?”
I will look at them but can not most of them be had with agreements.
What prompted this question is that I can not get long term care insurance. In order to not have to spend down my estate and leave my wife whom I love dearly in poverty because I had to spend it on long term care, and if God in his infinite wisdom does not see fit to take me quickly when the time comes, I would consider a divorce to preserve the money for her.
I hope that will be years away, Just looking ahead.
I got the point of your original post. I merely tried to inject a little humor to make my point. Obviously you didn’t get my point or chose to ignore it.
I find it ironic that the biggest Christian basher on the BLOG is able to be viewed as the victim of Christians bashing him.
Tedious. The profane, phoney and predictability of your posts are becoming tedious.
This is a disturbing development. It seems strident anti-Obama protesters at the entrance of the Unity rally were told to go to “free speech areas” and when then were at the rally itself with signs they were allowed to keep–sans sticks–some functionary took the sign away, declaring “no signs.”
I don’t care if the protesters were supporting George Bush, ballroom dancing or “the final solution.” Using Bush’s tactics to suppress dissent is not acceptable.
Why Do We ‘Keep and Bear Arms’? Part 1
Larry Elder
Thursday, July 03, 2008
“A prominent 20th-century Democrat made the following statement about the purpose of the Second Amendment: “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. … The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard, against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible.”
The Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, struck down the 1976 Washington , DC , ban on handguns. The court ruled that the Founding Fathers wanted the Second Amendment to allow individuals the right to keep and bear arms. The minority disagreed, arguing that the right only extends to those belonging to a state “militia,” such as the National Guard.
The Second Amendment reads as follows: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State , the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.” What did the Framers mean?
Is “Militia” — as the Framers intended — an arm of government? Or did the Framers define militia as something completely different — a group of armed citizens with a right to “keep and bear Arms” to guard against unjust or tyrannical government power.
The Founding Fathers assumed that any government, including the one they established, could grow into a monster. They argued that only “the people” with a right “to keep and bear arms” could prevent such a tyranny.
James Madison, the “father of the Constitution,” stated that tyrants were “afraid to trust the people with arms,” and lauded “the advantage of being armed, which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation.”
Thomas Jefferson wrote: “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.”
George Mason said, “To disarm the people — that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts said: “What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. … Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.”
Noah Webster, the prominent political essayist who fought in the Revolutionary War, wrote: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe . The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States . A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.”
Samuel Adams likened the Second Amendment to the First: “That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
Dictators throughout history sought to disarm their citizenries in order to impose power:
Vladimir Lenin said, “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
Mao Zedong said, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
Josef Stalin said: “We don’t let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?”
Adolf Hitler said: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.”
Thomas Paine, in 1775, spoke about another kind of “tyranny.” Bans and restrictions on firearms affect the law-abiding citizenry, shifting power to the non-law-abiding. Criminals ignore laws. That’s why we call them criminals. Paine said: “The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned while they neglect the means of self-defense. … (Weakness) allures the ruffian (but) arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world. … Horrid mischief would ensue were (the good) deprived of the use of them. … The weak will become a prey to the strong.”
Oh, the prominent Democrat quoted in the first paragraph? It was said Oct. 22, 1959, by future senator and Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey. How times — and much of the Democratic Party — have changed.”
I think it’s time we acknowledged the obvious: that only marriage between a man in a woman, attended by a qualified High Priestess, is considered a valid marriage in the eyes of Satan.
That’s why it’s legal, and same-sex marriage is not. I’m certain all the good Christians in attendance will agree with me 100%. Not obeying the word of Satan will surely have distastrous consequences for our society!
ksfarmgrrl
Posted July 3, 2008 at 11:48 am | Permalink
RA, Kansas has what is known as a “spousal impoverishment” provision. Look it up.
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Yes, I am aware of that but even that would not let my wife retain anything even close to 50% of our estate which I feel that she should be entitled to.
The Supreme Court’s decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, upholding the Second Amendment right of individuals to own firearms, should finally lay to rest the widespread myth that the defining difference between liberal and conservative justices is that the former support “individual rights” and “civil liberties,” while the latter routinely defer to government assertions of authority. The Heller dissent presents the remarkable spectacle of four liberal Supreme Court justices tying themselves into an intellectual knot to narrow the protections the Bill of Rights provides.
. . .
There are many ideological differences between the conservative and liberal justices on the Supreme Court. But a consistent, stronger liberal devotion to supporting individual rights and civil liberties against assertions of government power isn’t one of them.
Well, I simply can’t remember if Chas has EVER admitted to either being wrong on this blog or if he has even attempted to apologize for the rude things he says.
The other night he was talking about how someone should be ashamed. I asked him, as a Christian Minister, if he even knew the meaning of the word based on his language and attitude on this blog.
As usual, Chas acted like he had no clue what I was talking about. I told him that he swears at posters all the time here. He then said:
“You are one of the biggest liars here!! I do not swear at posters — Just another one of your lies”
Other posters and myself have now shown how Chas has swore at posters many times.
In his usual Chas style, he says that he still has not swore at posters. This coming from the guy who said that his use of STFU was actually “stnad the floor up.”
At some point, even you MonkeyHawk, have to admit what a liar Chas is.
The point is that Chas called me a liar for something which is so plainly clear.
Until Chas takes back his calling me a liar and apologizes for calling that person a “BI#%$” I will continue to remind him of his posts.
Nathan, the simple fact that you have called me a phony minister, and a non christian dozens of times is pure proof that YOU are a liar here… Now, tell me I am wrong!!!
Funny how the Libs claim to be the party looking out for the poor individuals, when in fact, the Libs don’t give a dang about individual rights of Freedom.
Nathan we have made some progress with Chas. He no longer blames his all caps post on his stroke. He has retired South Park - oh I mean square peg, ::, das, sugar, and who knows how many more.
I have decided he has a diagnosable mental disorder and isn’t really a minister of anything, he wants to be one but - remember Sybil - his evil side keeps the dominate control. He can’t help himself!
“I am simply going to remind you of this till you own up to it.”
The key word being, “simply.”
You’re as annoying as a three-year-old constantly asking “Why? Why? Why?” and contribute to the dialog in this forum nothing with your self-ordained pronouncements of who is or isn’t your brand of “christian.”
For a big strong ex-Marine, your getting your panties in a wad over some random web blog post demeans you, “Nathaniel,” and the Corps.
Cosmos I’m glad I ran into you today. While reading Drudge I became very alarmed and needed your advise:
“Due to pending disasters predicted because of global warming, government scientists are urging the creation of a new Earth Systems Science Agency — by merging the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the U.S. Geological Survey…
‘The United States faces unprecedented environmental and economic challenges in the decades ahead,’ the group warns. ‘Foremost among them will be climate change, sea-level rise, altered weather patterns, declines in freshwater availability and quality and loss of biodiversity’… Developing…
Flat screen TVs blamed for accelerating global warming… ”
I am calling on all bloggers especially those on the left to get rid of their flat screens now. Do your part for GW. Finally something we can all do.
Monkey when I complained yesterday that there was no substance on the blog the lefters jumped on me with both feet telling me that the blog wasn’t for substanitive info and therefore I should leave.
Just thought I would warn you before they tell you the same thing. They get nasty about this time everyday.
Nathan is simply trying to keep Chas honest and as I have posted I think it is mental and he (Chas) can’t help it.
I find it annoying that Chas can do or say anything here and is never held accountable for it. Chas is never wrong and never owns up to anything he does here.
In the past you have had no problem letting me know what you think of me as a poster here with all of your insults. Do you think that because you continue to insult me now, that it is somehow different?
I know what kind of Marine I am and my posting here doesn’t demean that in anyones eyes except those that have already determined to see me as demeaned long before this.
If that is how you want to continue to act here, fine.
Profanity is the act of using rude words. The adjective is profane. Profanities can also be called swear words, curse (”cuss”) words, dirty words, bad words, foul language, obscenity or obscene language, or expletives.
Bitch
Means female dog or prostitute; but is usually a rude name for a woman who is considered unpleasant or demanding, or anyone in a servile position. Can also refer to a bad situation (”I had a bitch of a time”). Also used as a verb, meaning to complain (”they bitched about the problem”). By contrast, bitchin’ (sometimes “bitchen”) can mean something very good or pleasant (”a bitchin’ car”).
Nathan, the simple fact that you have called me a phony minister, and a non christian dozens of times is pure proof that YOU are a liar here… Now, tell me I am wrong!!!
I am not sure if I have ever called you a phony minister or not. I don’t think I have.
I have often wondered how someone who acts the way you do on this blog could be a minister and questioned you on that.
I still think the way you act here is very unbecomming of anyone calling themselves a minister, Christian or not.
Do I still think that you are not a Christian? Yes.
I am not going to annoy you to make a point anymore though. It only serves to detract from the blog here and doesn’t accomplish anything other than annoying you.
Your beliefs are not Christian. The way you dodge questions about Christ and refuse to ever acknowledge what you believe about Christ along with the things you say about Religious Pluralism is why I say you are not a Christian.
I have offered many times to stop if you would simply answer a few questions about your faith.
You refuse to answer and when you do dodge the questions.
I will not annoy you anymore, but that doesn’t change what I think.
Thank you Nathan, for your post above that proves you are a liar… Whether YOU like it or not, I AM a Christian… AND, whether YOU like it or not, I am not a phony minister… (you might have used the term “fake” minister — same differrence)
Now, if you want PROOF, contact Phillip Brownlee… The Eagle has a copy of my credentials… You want to call the Eagle liars too???
NOW, do you still want to say you are not a liar??? When you just now proved you ARE??
Oh, I get it — YOU can post that I am not a Christian, even though I am one… and YOU can post that I am not a minister…. And that is being skeptical…. BUT… if I say you are a LIAR because of what you say about me, then that makes ME a liar??
“Nathaniel” sitteth upon the right hand of God and says –
(btw, I’m not sure how that’s actually work out; does that mean “Nathaniel” sitteth in Jesus’ lap? Anyway…)
“I am not sure how the paper could prove he was a Christian.”
Nope.
All anyone needs to be a “Christian” is to pass the “Nathaniel” test. Which means no coarse language and accepting late-night WE Blong declarations as to who had better brush up on their technique for treading molten brimstone for eternity.
Who among us ever realized that, come Judgment Day, the judge will be “Nathaniel?”
Golly.
That changes the equation, doesn’t it?
Maybe that tells us why the Marine Corps would rather enlist ex-cons and highschool-dropouts than have “Nathaniel” return to active duty during wartime.
When you’re too crazy for the Marines, you’re crazy, baby!
Your beliefs are not Christian. Would you care to prove otherwise? Are you finally willing to answer some questions?
Once again, I am not saying you are not a minister. If I have done so in the past, I was skeptical. A lie requires intent to decieve. At no time have I intended to decieve anyone by saying you are not a minister.
You are a liar, because you say you do not swear and then called me a liar for saying you do. By almost anyones standards and even the most commonly described standards, calling someone a Bitch is profane. Nevermind that you have called people an A$$hole as well.
Only in your mind is it not. Then again, I am talking to the person who says STFU meant “stand the floor up.”
Nathaniel
Posted July 3, 2008 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
Chas,
That doesn’t prove I am a liar. It proves that I disagree with you calling yourself a Christian.
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Nathan, it DOES prove you are a liar!! How can you think that you have the mind of GOD to disagree with ANYbody who says they are a Christian??
That is just about real close to being blasphemy against the Holy Spirit!!
See, Nathan, you may be allowed to THINK somebody isnt a Christian… But when that person TELLS you that, and you disagree, then YOU are the liar… That isnt something you can disagree about… Not in THIS part of reality!!
By the way, I have been meaning to ask you…. Does Satan believe in Jesus Christ??
Oh yea, you could quite appropriately state that YOU arent the same kind of Christian that I AM… That would be acceptable… Because there are MANY different kinds of Christians… But to say that somebody else, who CLAIMS to be a Christian is not a Christian??? Like YOU and Granny, and others do?? YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO THAT!!
Show me how the Marine Corps is enlisting highschool dropouts and excons.
Then show me how they would rather do that than my going back to active duty.
I know you can’t, you are just trying to protect your buddy Chas because he has himself in a pickle again.
Perhaps if Chas didn’t call people Bitches and A$$holes and then act like it is not profane and call people liars who say he is swearing at posters he wouldn’t get himself into the hole to begin with.
Of course you would never say anything to Chas about that, at least not publically.
Perhaps you might mention something to him via email.
Then you wouldn’t have to think you need to protect him so much by being so vulgar yourself.
Last I looked that would be an “A” followed by two $$ signs, followed by the word Whole… Profanity??? Yea, sure… in YOUR mind!!! Why do you think it is typed that way?? LOL dim wit….
Gotcha!! YOU made an interpretation of gibberish into what YOU wanted it to be!!
Chas I am sure you are familiar with this passage of scripture. Now Monkey says he doesn’t understand what Nathan is saying but you do because you have those ‘papers’.
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“Many” are going to appear before the Lord “in that day” who sought to enter in at the strait gate through a false intimate association with the Lord. They will have performed works, supposedly in the Lord’s name; and the Lord, “in that day,” will reveal to them that He had nothing to do with these works.
In Matthew 7:23 the Lord’s negative response pertains to two things: 1) entrance into the kingdom (v. 21), and 2) miraculous works (v. 22). Here the Lord declared that certain individuals will appear in His presence “in that day” who will seek admittance into the kingdom of the heavens on the basis of an intimate association with Him, wrought through having previously performed miraculous works.
The Lord though will say, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ['lawlessness']” (v. 23). The Lord will state that He had nothing to do with these works, and He will refuse to recognize those who had involved themselves in such works relative to the matter at hand—entrance into the kingdom.”
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I don’t pretend to be anyones judge; certainly not yours. But I am aware of what these words mean.
Chas asks “By the way, I have been meaning to ask you…. Does Satan believe in Jesus Christ??”
Oh he most certainly does. But the difference in Satan and a professed Christian is the we call Him our Lord, Master and Savior. Satan is so deluded with his power that he doesn’t recognize that any power he has was given to him by God and someday will be taken back the same way.
I’m watching the newscast of the pit bull fighting ring. WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT REPORTING THIS. What the F is wrong with you if you live next door to this and allow it to happen?
And I notice that KAKE isn’t reporting Tiller’s exoneration.
Sorry, nobody cares about your neverending argument. Please do the rest of us a favor and continue to dialogue about Chas’s religious affiliations by email. It really is reading the same posts over and over again.
That may be true. I am too tired, and too much in a hurry to look. BUt still, it goes on and on and on. Perhaps one is guiltier than the other. It would pay too just ignore it, I would think.
And whatever your political affiliation, whatever your rligious affiliation, including none, may you have a fourth of July that is befitting what you think of the day
Outta here. Maybe around tomorrow, maybe not. Have a great Holiday~!!!!!
Pmom sorry I added to this but I am the person he is calling a bitch. He has no right to call me that. Sorry you don’t see the wrong here when you were incensed that McCain might have called his wife the ‘c’ word. At any rate I will quit with the religious posts.
Please apologize for calling OKOB/grm the b-word. She has admited in the past to deliberately trying to annoy other posters and it may be understandable why you called her that. But, it is still possible to regret your actions even if you think they were justified. I have regretted what I have said here before. I try to leave before I get to that point. I think a lot of others do the same.
So, surely you would agree that lowering yourself to the same level as some here is not a good idea.
Yeah, if I lived next door to it, I’d probably notice it. Then I’d report it.
Now, if I was attending Rev Wrights Church, I probably wouldn’t notice any of the profane and outrageous things he said. So there would be no problem with it.
There are damned few words everybody understands; they probably should be used as often as possible.
But “Nathaniel” — the big tough ex-Marine — gets his panties in a twist when he hears or sees them in print. And it’s proof to him that someone’s not a real “christian.”
Yeah, he has every right in the world to say whatever he wants about coarse language and the people who utter such words.
But “Nathaniel” doesn’t have the right to be taken seriously. And most thinking people don’t.
Obviously, the strategy the Terrorists should use against a military force of “Nathaniels” is to attack while shouting “S#it s#it! Fuc# fuc#! Pi$$ pi$$! Pu$$Y pu$$y!” and the whole regiment would throw down their weapons and hold their ears!
Or else, “Nathaniel” is some kook even the Marines don’t want with them in Iraq or Afghanistan. Which is evident, given the situations.
“Flat screen TVs blamed for accelerating global warming… ”
I am calling on all bloggers especially those on the left to get rid of their flat screens now.”
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okobserver is a typical Republican.
She thinks(sic) that throwing away flat screens will recover the NF3 that might have been released EARLIER, when the screen was MANUFACTURED.
That’s a neat trick. . . those NF3 molecules floating far away up in the atmosphere, all over Earth, will be somehow be captured when you throw away your flat screen?
We’re still waiting for you to post the page # and exact quote from Al Gore’s first book, to support your LIE about his wanting very high gasoline prices.
Steven, I will consider it…. However, IF I do, Nathan will then “win” in his continued efforts at being the Blog Bully, and he will once again “get his way.” If that happens, we shall none of us, ever hear the end of it…. And especially from Max, and Granny Wench, et al…. Your thoughts??
Chas, no one is winning anything. Both of you are losing. In fact, the battle is over and you both lost.
Childishness won.
If nathan or anyone else thinks they are “winning” a battle, let them go. That’s how you win the war. Screw this little battle. You are better than this.
And MonkeyHawk? That 3:59 post is just brilliant. I laughed my ass off. And the sinning one too.
Welcome to Toastmasters, June 13, 2033. That’s right: 2033.
Today Rick Campbell, one of our senior members at age 87, is here to
reminisce a bit and give us a history lesson. He says he is so old that
he learned to drive an internal combustion engine car (remember those)
with a manual transmission. He once owned a typewriter. He remembers when
bicycles had one speed, phones had two-party lines, and cameras had
something called film. As incredible as this may seem, he says that when
he was young, it was common for people to smoke in restaurants and public
places. He is from a different time; almost a different world.
I’m sure all of us are far too familiar with the tragic events of
2010, so Rick is not going to p low that fertile field again. Instead, he
is going to give us a personal look back at the conditions which led up
to that fateful year, in a speech titled “2010 Was Not A Good Year To Be
President.”
“2010 Was Not A Good Year To Be President”
Yes, 2010 was long ago and far away.
As we look back on history, it appears that some Presidents had an
easy ride- times of growth and stability. Teddy Roosevelt, Warren G.
Harding, Dwight Eisenhower, Bill Clinton come to mind. Those were good
years to be President.
Others were elected just when the Republic was facing terrible
crises: Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, George W.
Bush. They rose to the occasion, even though they were controversial and
widely hated while in office. Not such good years to be President.
Just a few years prior, in 2008, the country began foundering. We
were in the sixth year of the Iraqi Occupation, and the economy was flat.
The mainstream press clearly wanted a Democrat elected.
Although we didn’t know it until some years later, oil producing
nations had colluded to secretly buy their own oil on the open market,
driving oil prices to shocking levels above the true demand price-
reaching a high of $162 a barrel in October, 2008, just before the
general elections.
Their purpose was simple: to effect regime change in the United States.
And of course, the U.S. economy was already in a real estate slump
and also suffering the curse of stagflation; slow growth and high inflation.
There were a million home foreclosures.
Independent truckers went under by the thousands.
Airlines failed. Airlines with names now long-forgotten: United,
Delta, Northwestern, American. All now merged, of course, into the one
lone U.S. carrier we love so much: Southwest.
Against this backdrop of weariness of the war on terror, and economic
distress, the American people were ripe for a demagogue, and they
certainly got one in Barack Hussein Obama.
He and his running mate Kathleen Sibelius inspired them with vague
notions of hope and change; of a world in which diplomacy settled all
international problems, of free universal health care, of abundant
alternative energy, of peace and love.
It was a vision too good to resist.
The Republican nominee, a name you probably haven’t heard in years
anyone? Yes, it was John McCain, an obscure Senator from Arizona had no
clue how to run a national campaign, and a platform nearly as liberal as
Obama’s.
The selection of Condoleeza Rice as his running mate looked brilliant
at first. Unfortunately, black voters viewed her as white, and women
voters viewed her as one of the guys.
Even so, the McCain/Rice ticket would hav e won the election if it
weren’t for the fact that 16 percent of conservative Republicans voted
for anyone remember? That’s right, Bob Barr, another name that’s a
footnote in history.
After Obama’s narrow win, thanks to recounts in Broward County,
Florida, the country was positively giddy. A Democrat House, Senate, and
President. At last an end to gridlock in Washington. Camelot!
When Congress convened in January, 2009, the 44th President of the
United States did something unique in history: he made good on his
campaign promises.
Certainly most Americans never really thought he was serious during
the campaign. But whether because of inexperience, idealism, or simply
incompetence, he followed through.
In Obama’s first One Hundred Days, the Congress passed his
initiatives, and he signed them into law as he said he would.
He repealed the Bush tax cuts, and increased capital gains taxes.
He enacted a windfall profits tax, and instituted price controls on
gasoline and diesel fuel.
He passed universal health care, which added an additional 10 percent
tax increase on all working Americans.
He signed the Immigrant Amnesty bill which created 12 million new
citizens instantly, each with entitlements.
He closed the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, and summarily
released all the detainees.
He repealed the Patriot Act, and cut funding for espionage, and
eliminated all terrorist listening and wiretaps.
Most important, he began the complete and immediate withdrawal of all
American troops from Iraq.
He ignored the advice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who wanted to
retain bases in Kuwait and Qatar. Instead, he went with the
recommendation of Secretary of Defense Dennis Kucinich, and ordered all
troops back to U.S. soil.
Viola! In One Hundred Days, by May of 2009, it was all done, and the
vision was complete. He did exactly what he said he would do.
And so it was in the summer of 2009 that things began to unravel for
Obama.
Of course, the economy needed a tax cut, not an increase, and
unemployment quickly rose to 12 percent. Even attorneys and economists
were put in the bread lines. Hard times.
Price controls on gasoline immediately led to shortages and gas lines.
The global cooling trend we have seen for the past 25 years first
became obvious in 2009, exposing the CO2 global warming fraud. People
were justifiably angry.
Federal deficits increased massively because thousands of baby
boomers, facing job loss and much higher taxes, simply gave up and took
social security.
Although the superb U.S. health care system was thrown into disarray,
the bright spot was the creation of the Federal Department of Health
care, and th e immediate hiring of 250,000 administrators, inspectors and
au ditors, the only job growth in any economic sector in 2009.
By February 2010, the U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq was
complete. It was a very expensive undertaking.
And then in March, the gradual Shiite insurgencies from Iran turned
into a true Iraqi civil war. In May, Iranian tanks crossed the border and
quickly took Baghdad. Although the exact number is not know, at least
230,000 Sunni Iraqis died as we stood by.
Iran also quickly moved into undefended Kuwait.
President Obama did exactly what he said he would. He sent Secretary
of State Maria Cantwell to Tehran to meet with Iranian President
Ahmadinejad.
After two weeks of high level talks, the United States agreed to
allow Iran to retain Iraq and Kuwait to create stability in the middle
east, with the understanding that Israel would not be disturbed.
Cantwell returned to Washington, and explained the agreement in her
famous speech, in which sh e proudly noted that the Obama administration
had finally achieved “peace in our time” in the Middl e East.
So there was some surprise at the rocket attacks on Tel Aviv on
August 14th.
President Obama said, “This is not the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad I knew.”
The Obama administration decided it would be de-stabilizing to take
sides in the conflict, and approximately 29,000 Israeli civilians died
during the summer and fall.
American Jews were appalled at the inaction. Yes, in 2010 most
American Jews were Democrats, but because of 2010, they are solid
Republicans today.
As awkward as it was, everything might have turned out all right for
the Obama administration going into the fall mid-term elections of 2010,
if it hadn’t been for the dirty bomb in the Port of Long Beach.
The administration had cut funding for the inspection of containers,
because they felt it showed a “lack of trust” in the international
trading community.
It wasn’t really a very big bomb, and thank goodness, not a real
nuclear device, but nonetheless it contaminated some expensive real
estate- Newport Beach, Palos Verdes Estates- and ultimately caused the
death of 14,000 Americans. People were especially annoyed that
Disneyland had to be closed for decontamination.
And so, in the midterm elections, Republicans regained control of
both the House and Senate, and the rest is history.
The impeachment proceedings against President Obama for “failure to
protect and defend” were swift and nearly unanimous. Vice President
Sibelius resigned. Newly-elected Speaker of the House, J.C. Watts, became
the 45th President of the United States.
But you know the rest of the story well.
Republicans finished the war on Islamic fundamentalists, largely by
aiming ICBM’s at Mecca and Medina.
No Democrat has been elected President since.
Republicans have held both Houses of Congress.
History of Western Civilization and Economics are now taught in all
public schools, and in English only.
Marriage is defined as one man and one woman.
And there are border fences, north and south.
We old codgers remember the ancient Confucian curse: “May you live in
interesting times.”
Well, 2010 was an interesting year, but it was not a good year to be
President.”
“Obviously, the strategy the Terrorists should use against a military force of “Nathaniels” is to attack while shouting “S#it s#it! Fuc# fuc#! Pi$$ pi$$! Pu$$Y pu$$y!” and the whole regiment would throw down their weapons and hold their ears!”
I’m still laughing, ah tell you whut…
And imagine, as TERRIFIED as the military is of gay folks, what would happen if the terrorists stood up and shouted “I’m gay” and the commenced to swear.
Hell, the war would have been over in “days, weeks, months”. It certainly wouldnt have taken YEARS!
What would I win? If you admitted that calling someone a Bitch was uncalled for and simply apologized for that and calling me a liar for pointing it out, I would drop it.
Besides the fact that apologizing for things you are so obviously in the wrong for makes you a better person.
Do it for yourself, not for me.
Do it becaue you are a minister and want to set a better example.
I could think of a dozen reasons to do it and you think that by not apologizing for your profanity here and calling me a liar for pointing it out keeps me from winning?
Heres the story about the Army and Marines accepting more felons —– must make you feel soooo proud and at home now that the marines / army would wave the felonies of sexual abusers Military Waivers for Ex-Convicts Increase
By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 22, 2008; A01
The Army admitted about one-fourth more recruits last year with a record of legal problems ranging from felony convictions and serious misdemeanors to drug crimes and traffic offenses, as pressure to increase the size of U.S. ground forces led the military to grant more waivers for criminal conduct, according to new data released yesterday.
Such “conduct waivers” for Army recruits rose from 8,129 in fiscal 2006 to 10,258 in fiscal 2007. For Marine Corps recruits, they increased from 16,969 to 17,413.
Nathan you and I both know you could ask the Marines to retrain you to a specialty that is needed there
295 Comments
Chas
Posted June 30, 2008 at 3:01 am | Permalink
“You are one of the biggest liars here!! I do not swear at posters — Just another one of your lies”
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/06/open-thread-629-2/#comment-376050
Chas
Posted June 28, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink
“I DONT THINK SO BITCH!!!”
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/06/open-thread-628-2/#comment-375452
I realize the above multi-post is somehow meaningful for you, “Nathaniel.”
But I’ve forgotten your point.
Do you have one?
Chas
Posted June 30, 2008 at 3:01 am | Permalink
“I do not swear at posters”
Chas
Posted May 8, 2008 at 6:47 pm | Permalink
Yep… as suspected — Nothing of substance from James when cornered — Just stupid goddam ad hominem bullshit!!! Just as always!!
JERK!!!
What a terrible post to wake up to.
Chas
Posted June 30, 2008 at 3:01 am | Permalink
“I do not swear at posters”
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Chas
Posted July 3, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink
Of course Tiller has an interest in each case… But the SECOND physician is independent of Tiller…. Ya cant spin that one, McDumbscheis… Tray another one??
HUD — As anybody can plainly see, what you posted above(cut/paste) is NOT swearing at a poster… It is a comment on the subject of the posting of another poster…
Care to try another??
If not, just shut up…
Keep spinning, DumbScheis… Maybe you will get dizzy, and fall out of your chair… LOL
Regular
Posted July 3, 2008 at 7:23 am | Permalink
Chas
Posted June 30, 2008 at 3:01 am | Permalink
“I do not swear at posters”
#
Chas
Posted July 3, 2008 at 7:25 am | Permalink
Keep spinning, DumbScheis… Maybe you will get dizzy, and fall out of your chair… LOL
Chas
Posted June 30, 2008 at 3:01 am | Permalink
“I do not swear at posters”
Chas
Posted May 8, 2008 at 6:47 pm | Permalink
Yep… as suspected — Nothing of substance from James when cornered — Just stupid goddam ad hominem bullshit!!! Just as always!!
JERK!!!
Nothing here but a bunch of nonsense garbage!!
How pathetic, on the eve of our National Birthday!! Hooray for amber waves of grain…
NEW YORK (Associated Press) — Rush Limbaugh will make about $38 million a year to continue his radio show over the next eight years. In addition, he says will be getting a nine-figure signing bonus from Premiere Radio Networks.
Shame!!!! But shows that if he can get a job regular should be able to get one too …… both mindless idiots who’s only goal in life is to encourage small mindedness and create a division in our society —- how so very unpatriotic —- happy independence day regular -
“What you do to the least of your brethren, you do unto Me.”
Please excuse my ignorance, but the question I have is why anyone who is not a believer in the faith would want to be tied down with “Marriage”?
Have you considered all the pros and cons of the marriage contract?
I believe that most of the major pros can be taken care of with contracts. Here are a few of the cons you might want to consider if you are not a believer of the Christian faith.
1. Right off you have the marriage income tax penalty
2. You are liable for you marriage partner debt.
3. This is a big one - .If your marriage partner becomes disabled, you would have to spend down your assets before they can get Medicaid to pay for the nursing home.
Why would anyone, straight or gay that is not of the faith want to have all the disadvantages of marriage?
R-A Dont know what being “of the faith” has to do with marriage… People of MANY faiths take part in marriage… Guess you do know that… On second thought…. maybe not!!
Interesting question Right Angle. I always thought of marriage as a public declaration with associated legal rights.
RA, annie - as I noted on the other thread on the same topic it is a bundle of both legal rights and responsibilities.
Monkeyhawk
Posted July 3, 2008 at 6:09 am | Permalink
I realize the above multi-post is somehow meaningful for you, “Nathaniel.”
But I’ve forgotten your point.
Do you have one?
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He has two points, M-H >>>>
1) Just plain bully-style harassment…
2) To do his best to be obnoxious.
Nuff said…
Agreed Ben. Sorry I didn’t catch the previous discussion.
Excuse my ignorance, at what point do people of faith not seek divine guidance. Buying a car? Choosing a career? Selecting a mate?
Just to lighten things up a bit, by request:
I work down at the Pizza Pit
And I drive an old Hyundai
I still live with my mom and dad
I’m 5 foot 3 and overweight
I’m a scifi fanatic
A mild asthmatic
And I’ve never been to second base
But there’s whole ‘nother me
That you need to see
Go checkout MySpace
‘Cause online I’m out in Hollywood
I’m 6 foot 5 and I look damn good
I drive a Maserati
I’m a black-belt in karate
And I love a good glass of wine
It turns girls on that I’m mysterious
I tell them I don’t want nothing serious
‘Cause even on a slow day
I could have a three way
Chat with two women at one time
I’m so much cooler online
So much cooler online
When I get home I kiss my mom
And she fixes me a snack
And I head down to my basement bedroom
And fire under my yak
In real life the only time I’ve ever even been to L.A
Is when I got the chance with the marching band
To play tuba in the Rose Parade
Online I live in Malibu
I pose for Calvin Klein, I’ve been in GQ
I’m single and I’m rich
And I’ve got a set of six pack abs that would blow your mind
It turns girls on that I’m mysterious
I tell them I don’t want nothing serious
‘Cause even on a slow day
I could have a three way
Chat with two women at one time
I’m so much cooler online
Yeah, I’m cooler online
When you got my kind of stats
It’s hard to get a date
Let alone a real girlfriend
But I grow another foot and I lose a bunch of weight
Every time I login
Online
I’m out in Hollywood
I’m 6 foot 5 and I look damn good
Even on a slow day
I could have a three way
Chat with two women at one time
I’m so much cooler online
Yeah, I’m cooler online
I’m so much cooler online
Yeah, I’m cooler online
Yeah, I’m cooler online
Yeah, I’ll see ya online
Annie — Dont know if it will help answer your question much, but….
A number of years ago, some members of my congregation asked me to attend the wedding ceremony of one of their family members…
It was a very pretty ceremony…. had the right kind of dresses, and flowers, and music, and the reception was just teriffic…
At the end of the Ceremony, the Pastor, in his $600 Hart/Schaefner/Marx suit, said: And now God in his Infinite Wisdom, send many years of Blessing on the union of these two, now standing before us… And Bless them with the gifts of the Holy Ghost, and of the world in which we live… Amen!!
TWO WEEKS LATER…..
My phone rang… It was those same family members…. crying profusely…. the bad news… Gary had shot and killed Janice… The funeral would be Saturday…. Would I go with them…. I said I would….
I had to bite my tongue HARD, when that preacher in that $600 suit(see above) stood up and started out that service:
Dear Friends, God in his infinite wisdom has called his daughter Janice home to be with him…. AND I NEARLY LOST IT….
These two were “Devout Believers and Followers” They were in the “Young Disciples Club” at this “church”.
And yet, on that fatal Thursday night, Gary and some of his friends, were working on his old jalopy truck… and also working on a half gallon of Jim Beam…. And, at 10 p.m. his friends went home… And Gary went into the house… And he demanded that Janice fix him dinner…. he was hungry and tired… he deserved to be FED!!
Janice said, But Gary, I already fixed you and your buddies steaks at 7 p.m….. Are you sure you want MORE now???
Gary went into their bedroom…. came out with his .38 caliber revolver…. and SHOT her 6 times… at point blank range…
Somehow, I didnt see that as God in infinite wisdom using Gary’s drunken Stupor and his precious GUN, as calling Janice Home….
Sometimes I think the last thing some of these people seek divine guidance for is Marriage….
Sorry for the long answer, Annie… But, I hope that helps answer your question…
Hey Mary — Name of Song? Composer?? Please??
You can get a Hart/Schaefner/Marx suit for $600? I call bullshit!
Just another made up personal anecdote to make one of your sick little points.
So right angle, why do STRAIGHT people want to be married? I mean, if it’s such a bad deal and all?
Jesus WEPT!
The shark called. He wants you to give his back a rest over the fourth….
Hart/Schaefner/Marx suit for UNDER $600 GO HERE:
http://www.hartschaffnermarx.com/mensstore/dept.asp?s_id=0&dept_name=Suits&dept_id=1000&WT.svl=deptnav2
Whether or not you agree with Dr. Ron Paul and his views. You have to admit that this speech is spot on. His understanding of money and economics is unmatched in Congress. Enjoy.
Something Big is Going On
The following statement is written by Congressman Paul about the pending financial disaster. He will introduce this statement as a special order and insert it into the Congressional Record next week. Fortunately, we have the opportunity to debut it first on the Campaign for Liberty blog. It reads as follows:
I have, for the past 35 years, expressed my grave concern for the future of America. The course we have taken over the past century has threatened our liberties, security and prosperity. In spite of these long-held concerns, I have days—growing more frequent all the time—when I’m convinced the time is now upon us that some Big Events are about to occur. These fast-approaching events will not go unnoticed. They will affect all of us. They will not be limited to just some areas of our country. The world economy and political system will share in the chaos about to be unleashed.
Though the world has long suffered from the senselessness of wars that should have been avoided, my greatest fear is that the course on which we find ourselves will bring even greater conflict and economic suffering to the innocent people of the world—unless we quickly change our ways.
America, with her traditions of free markets and property rights, led the way toward great wealth and progress throughout the world as well as at home. Since we have lost our confidence in the principles of liberty, self reliance, hard work and frugality, and instead took on empire building, financed through inflation and debt, all this has changed. This is indeed frightening and an historic event.
The problem we face is not new in history. Authoritarianism has been around a long time. For centuries, inflation and debt have been used by tyrants to hold power, promote aggression, and provide “bread and circuses” for the people. The notion that a country can afford “guns and butter” with no significant penalty existed even before the 1960s when it became a popular slogan. It was then, though, we were told the Vietnam War and a massive expansion of the welfare state were not problems. The seventies proved that assumption wrong.
Today things are different from even ancient times or the 1970s. There is something to the argument that we are now a global economy. The world has more people and is more integrated due to modern technology, communications, and travel. If modern technology had been used to promote the ideas of liberty, free markets, sound money and trade, it would have ushered in a new golden age—a globalism we could accept.
Instead, the wealth and freedom we now enjoy are shrinking and rest upon a fragile philosophic infrastructure. It is not unlike the levies and bridges in our own country that our system of war and welfare has caused us to ignore.
I’m fearful that my concerns have been legitimate and may even be worse than I first thought. They are now at our doorstep. Time is short for making a course correction before this grand experiment in liberty goes into deep hibernation.
There are reasons to believe this coming crisis is different and bigger than the world has ever experienced. Instead of using globalism in a positive fashion, it’s been used to globalize all of the mistakes of the politicians, bureaucrats and central bankers.
Being an unchallenged sole superpower was never accepted by us with a sense of humility and respect. Our arrogance and aggressiveness have been used to promote a world empire backed by the most powerful army of history. This type of globalist intervention creates problems for all citizens of the world and fails to contribute to the well-being of the world’s populations. Just think how our personal liberties have been trashed here at home in the last decade.
The financial crisis, still in its early stages, is apparent to everyone: gasoline prices over $4 a gallon; skyrocketing education and medical-care costs; the collapse of the housing bubble; the bursting of the NASDAQ bubble; stockmarkets plunging; unemployment rising;, massive underemployment; excessive government debt; and unmanageable personal debt. Little doubt exists as to whether we’ll get stagflation. The question that will soon be asked is: When will the stagflation become an inflationary depression?
There are various reasons that the world economy has been globalized and the problems we face are worldwide. We cannot understand what we’re facing without understanding fiat money and the long-developing dollar bubble.
There were several stages. From the inception of the Federal Reserve System in 1913 to 1933, the Central Bank established itself as the official dollar manager. By 1933, Americans could no longer own gold, thus removing restraint on the Federal Reserve to inflate for war and welfare.
By 1945, further restraints were removed by creating the Bretton-Woods Monetary System making the dollar the reserve currency of the world. This system lasted up until 1971. During the period between 1945 and 1971, some restraints on the Fed remained in place. Foreigners, but not Americans, could convert dollars to gold at $35 an ounce. Due to the excessive dollars being created, that system came to an end in 1971.
It’s the post Bretton-Woods system that was responsible for globalizing inflation and markets and for generating a gigantic worldwide dollar bubble. That bubble is now bursting, and we’re seeing what it’s like to suffer the consequences of the many previous economic errors.
Ironically in these past 35 years, we have benefited from this very flawed system. Because the world accepted dollars as if they were gold, we only had to counterfeit more dollars, spend them overseas (indirectly encouraging our jobs to go overseas as well) and enjoy unearned prosperity. Those who took our dollars and gave us goods and services were only too anxious to loan those dollars back to us. This allowed us to export our inflation and delay the consequences we now are starting to see.
But it was never destined to last, and now we have to pay the piper. Our huge foreign debt must be paid or liquidated. Our entitlements are coming due just as the world has become more reluctant to hold dollars. The consequence of that decision is price inflation in this country—and that’s what we are witnessing today. Already price inflation overseas is even higher than here at home as a consequence of foreign central bank’s willingness to monetize our debt.
Printing dollars over long periods of time may not immediately push prices up–yet in time it always does. Now we’re seeing catch-up for past inflating of the monetary supply. As bad as it is today with $4 a gallon gasoline, this is just the beginning. It’s a gross distraction to hound away at “drill, drill, drill” as a solution to the dollar crisis and high gasoline prices. Its okay to let the market increase supplies and drill, but that issue is a gross distraction from the sins of deficits and Federal Reserve monetary shenanigans.
This bubble is different and bigger for another reason. The central banks of the world secretly collude to centrally plan the world economy. I’m convinced that agreements among central banks to “monetize” U.S. debt these past 15 years have existed, although secretly and out of the reach of any oversight of anyone—especially the U.S. Congress that doesn’t care, or just flat doesn’t understand. As this “gift” to us comes to an end, our problems worsen. The central banks and the various governments are very powerful, but eventually the markets overwhelm when the people who get stuck holding the bag (of bad dollars) catch on and spend the dollars into the economy with emotional zeal, thus igniting inflationary fever.
This time—since there are so many dollars and so many countries involved—the Fed has been able to “paper” over every approaching crisis for the past 15 years, especially with Alan Greenspan as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, which has allowed the bubble to become history’s greatest.
The mistakes made with excessive credit at artificially low rates are huge, and the market is demanding a correction. This involves excessive debt, misdirected investments, over-investments, and all the other problems caused by the government when spending the money they should never have had. Foreign militarism, welfare handouts and $80 trillion entitlement promises are all coming to an end. We don’t have the money or the wealth-creating capacity to catch up and care for all the needs that now exist because we rejected the market economy, sound money, self reliance and the principles of liberty.
Since the correction of all this misallocation of resources is necessary and must come, one can look for some good that may come as this “Big Even” unfolds.
There are two choices that people can make. The one choice that is unavailable to us is to limp along with the status quo and prop up the system with more debt, inflation and lies. That won’t happen.
One of the two choices, and the one chosen so often by government in the past is that of rejecting the principles of liberty and resorting to even bigger and more authoritarian government. Some argue that giving dictatorial powers to the President, just as we have allowed him to run the American empire, is what we should do. That’s the great danger, and in this post-911 atmosphere, too many Americans are seeking safety over freedom. We have already lost too many of our personal liberties already. Real fear of economic collapse could prompt central planners to act to such a degree that the New Deal of the 30’s might look like Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence.
The more the government is allowed to do in taking over and running the economy, the deeper the depression gets and the longer it lasts. That was the story of the 30ss and the early 40s, and the same mistakes are likely to be made again if we do not wake up.
But the good news is that it need not be so bad if we do the right thing. I saw “Something Big” happening in the past 18 months on the campaign trail. I was encouraged that we are capable of waking up and doing the right thing. I have literally met thousands of high school and college kids who are quite willing to accept the challenge and responsibility of a free society and reject the cradle-to-grave welfare that is promised them by so many do-good politicians.
If more hear the message of liberty, more will join in this effort. The failure of our foreign policy, welfare system, and monetary policies and virtually all government solutions are so readily apparent, it doesn’t take that much convincing. But the positive message of how freedom works and why it’s possible is what is urgently needed.
One of the best parts of accepting self reliance in a free society is that true personal satisfaction with one’s own life can be achieved. This doesn’t happen when the government assumes the role of guardian, parent or provider, because it eliminates a sense of pride. But the real problem is the government can’t provide the safety and economic security that it claims. The so-called good that government claims it can deliver is always achieved at the expense of someone else’s freedom. It’s a failed system and the young people know it.
Restoring a free society doesn’t eliminate the need to get our house in order and to pay for the extravagant spending. But the pain would not be long-lasting if we did the right things, and best of all the empire would have to end for financial reasons. Our wars would stop, the attack on civil liberties would cease, and prosperity would return. The choices are clear: it shouldn’t be difficult, but the big event now unfolding gives us a great opportunity to reverse the tide and resume the truly great American Revolution started in 1776. Opportunity knocks in spite of the urgency and the dangers we face.
Let’s make “Something Big is Happening” be the discovery that freedom works and is popular and the big economic and political event we’re witnessing is a blessing in disguise.
On sale? Really? Does anyone buy ‘off the rack’ anymore?
Thanks for the link RightAngle, my bad.
Hank, my story is from a number of years back, IF you even bothered to read it…
AND, if you look at the sales, you can still get one of them for under $600…. IF you have $600 for a suit… I know I dont…
And Hank, as usual, attacks the poster, and not the post… Kinda figured one of you wing nuts would have a few comments…. And I figured they wouldnt have anything to do with the story….
AND, before you even start in that direction, the story is NOT about GUNS…
I reckon the BS is on Hank this time
“Somehow, I didnt see that as God in infinite wisdom using Gary’s drunken Stupor and his precious GUN, as calling Janice Home…. ”
I would have to agree. ALthough a believer, I am not a determinist.
“Sometimes I think the last thing some of these people seek divine guidance for is Marriage…. ”
Even if they do, it is often something else guiding them.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted July 3, 2008 at 9:46 am | Permalink
So right angle, why do STRAIGHT people want to be married? I mean, if it’s such a bad deal and all?
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Sorry but that was my question which I have not received a reply for yet “Why would anyone, STRAIGHT or gay that is not of the faith want to have all the disadvantages of marriage?”
The Human Rights Campaign website lists the over ONE THOUSAND civil benefits that come with legal marriage.
And you come up with three things that are “downside”?
I think that just about answers your question.
The google is your friend…
What Thanks ksfarmgrrl,
I will look at them but can not most of them be had with agreements.
What prompted this question is that I can not get long term care insurance. In order to not have to spend down my estate and leave my wife whom I love dearly in poverty because I had to spend it on long term care, and if God in his infinite wisdom does not see fit to take me quickly when the time comes, I would consider a divorce to preserve the money for her.
I hope that will be years away, Just looking ahead.
R-A Thats a wonderful argument for Universal Health Care… You would not be in that situation if we had Univ. Health Care!!
Yes Chas.,
I got the point of your original post. I merely tried to inject a little humor to make my point. Obviously you didn’t get my point or chose to ignore it.
I find it ironic that the biggest Christian basher on the BLOG is able to be viewed as the victim of Christians bashing him.
Tedious. The profane, phoney and predictability of your posts are becoming tedious.
And what point were you making?? The suit certainly had nothing to do with my post, other than color commentary….
Furthermore, where do you find any Christian Bashing?? huh???
This is a disturbing development. It seems strident anti-Obama protesters at the entrance of the Unity rally were told to go to “free speech areas” and when then were at the rally itself with signs they were allowed to keep–sans sticks–some functionary took the sign away, declaring “no signs.”
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/obama-learns-from-bush-free-speech-edition/
I don’t care if the protesters were supporting George Bush, ballroom dancing or “the final solution.” Using Bush’s tactics to suppress dissent is not acceptable.
I would quite agree, Rage…
Why Do We ‘Keep and Bear Arms’? Part 1
Larry Elder
Thursday, July 03, 2008
“A prominent 20th-century Democrat made the following statement about the purpose of the Second Amendment: “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. … The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard, against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible.”
The Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, struck down the 1976 Washington , DC , ban on handguns. The court ruled that the Founding Fathers wanted the Second Amendment to allow individuals the right to keep and bear arms. The minority disagreed, arguing that the right only extends to those belonging to a state “militia,” such as the National Guard.
The Second Amendment reads as follows: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State , the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.” What did the Framers mean?
Is “Militia” — as the Framers intended — an arm of government? Or did the Framers define militia as something completely different — a group of armed citizens with a right to “keep and bear Arms” to guard against unjust or tyrannical government power.
The Founding Fathers assumed that any government, including the one they established, could grow into a monster. They argued that only “the people” with a right “to keep and bear arms” could prevent such a tyranny.
James Madison, the “father of the Constitution,” stated that tyrants were “afraid to trust the people with arms,” and lauded “the advantage of being armed, which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation.”
Thomas Jefferson wrote: “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.”
George Mason said, “To disarm the people — that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts said: “What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. … Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.”
Noah Webster, the prominent political essayist who fought in the Revolutionary War, wrote: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe . The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States . A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.”
Samuel Adams likened the Second Amendment to the First: “That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
Dictators throughout history sought to disarm their citizenries in order to impose power:
Vladimir Lenin said, “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
Mao Zedong said, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
Josef Stalin said: “We don’t let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?”
Adolf Hitler said: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.”
Thomas Paine, in 1775, spoke about another kind of “tyranny.” Bans and restrictions on firearms affect the law-abiding citizenry, shifting power to the non-law-abiding. Criminals ignore laws. That’s why we call them criminals. Paine said: “The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned while they neglect the means of self-defense. … (Weakness) allures the ruffian (but) arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world. … Horrid mischief would ensue were (the good) deprived of the use of them. … The weak will become a prey to the strong.”
Oh, the prominent Democrat quoted in the first paragraph? It was said Oct. 22, 1959, by future senator and Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey. How times — and much of the Democratic Party — have changed.”
I think it’s time we acknowledged the obvious: that only marriage between a man in a woman, attended by a qualified High Priestess, is considered a valid marriage in the eyes of Satan.
That’s why it’s legal, and same-sex marriage is not. I’m certain all the good Christians in attendance will agree with me 100%. Not obeying the word of Satan will surely have distastrous consequences for our society!
/sarcasm off
RA, Kansas has what is known as a “spousal impoverishment” provision. Look it up.
ksfarmgrrl
Posted July 3, 2008 at 11:48 am | Permalink
RA, Kansas has what is known as a “spousal impoverishment” provision. Look it up.
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Yes, I am aware of that but even that would not let my wife retain anything even close to 50% of our estate which I feel that she should be entitled to.
Thought this was interesting.
For your perusal and commentary - a sample:
The Supreme Court’s decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, upholding the Second Amendment right of individuals to own firearms, should finally lay to rest the widespread myth that the defining difference between liberal and conservative justices is that the former support “individual rights” and “civil liberties,” while the latter routinely defer to government assertions of authority. The Heller dissent presents the remarkable spectacle of four liberal Supreme Court justices tying themselves into an intellectual knot to narrow the protections the Bill of Rights provides.
. . .
There are many ideological differences between the conservative and liberal justices on the Supreme Court. But a consistent, stronger liberal devotion to supporting individual rights and civil liberties against assertions of government power isn’t one of them.
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Discuss.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9511
MonkeyHawk,
The point?
Hmmmm….
Well, I simply can’t remember if Chas has EVER admitted to either being wrong on this blog or if he has even attempted to apologize for the rude things he says.
The other night he was talking about how someone should be ashamed. I asked him, as a Christian Minister, if he even knew the meaning of the word based on his language and attitude on this blog.
As usual, Chas acted like he had no clue what I was talking about. I told him that he swears at posters all the time here. He then said:
“You are one of the biggest liars here!! I do not swear at posters — Just another one of your lies”
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/06/open-thread-629-2/#comment-376050
Other posters and myself have now shown how Chas has swore at posters many times.
In his usual Chas style, he says that he still has not swore at posters. This coming from the guy who said that his use of STFU was actually “stnad the floor up.”
At some point, even you MonkeyHawk, have to admit what a liar Chas is.
The point is that Chas called me a liar for something which is so plainly clear.
Until Chas takes back his calling me a liar and apologizes for calling that person a “BI#%$” I will continue to remind him of his posts.
Nathaniel,
Thank you for posting the reminders of what okobserver (aka ksgrm) is.
Grow up boy!!
Chas,
I might say the same of you. A man would simply admit his mistakes and move on, not deny them and call people liars.
oh yea, excuse me…. Please grow up boy…
AND…. while you are at it, knock off the stupid harassment…
So, ummmm I am supposed to admit a mistake I havent made… Right… like that makes a lot of sense…. Geez!!
Get the log out of your own eye Nathan.
Nathan, the simple fact that you have called me a phony minister, and a non christian dozens of times is pure proof that YOU are a liar here… Now, tell me I am wrong!!!
Chas,
You think you can call people liars when they are not and then act like it never happened.
I am simply going to remind you of this till you own up to it.
Chas,
How can you with a straight face call someone a Bitch and then say I am a liar for saying you swear at people?
Heck Nathan, Chas even lies about lying!
And so his lies continue to pile up, in the countless bin of the WE Blog.
SSDD
Well, Nathan, “bitch” is not profanity… Pull your head out and learn something… For a change
The word is also not a term of endearment… And when used, not intended to be…
Good article at Cato GMC.
Funny how the Libs claim to be the party looking out for the poor individuals, when in fact, the Libs don’t give a dang about individual rights of Freedom.
Nathaniel,
Are you going to do the four points I posted? LOL!
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-702/#comment-377191
And does “98.5%” equal “perfectly capable”?
Nathan we have made some progress with Chas. He no longer blames his all caps post on his stroke. He has retired South Park - oh I mean square peg, ::, das, sugar, and who knows how many more.
I have decided he has a diagnosable mental disorder and isn’t really a minister of anything, he wants to be one but - remember Sybil - his evil side keeps the dominate control. He can’t help himself!
Chas,
How is calling some a Bitch not profane?
“Nathaniel” has found his life’s purpose, with –
“I am simply going to remind you of this till you own up to it.”
The key word being, “simply.”
You’re as annoying as a three-year-old constantly asking “Why? Why? Why?” and contribute to the dialog in this forum nothing with your self-ordained pronouncements of who is or isn’t your brand of “christian.”
For a big strong ex-Marine, your getting your panties in a wad over some random web blog post demeans you, “Nathaniel,” and the Corps.
Cosmos I’m glad I ran into you today. While reading Drudge I became very alarmed and needed your advise:
“Due to pending disasters predicted because of global warming, government scientists are urging the creation of a new Earth Systems Science Agency — by merging the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the U.S. Geological Survey…
‘The United States faces unprecedented environmental and economic challenges in the decades ahead,’ the group warns. ‘Foremost among them will be climate change, sea-level rise, altered weather patterns, declines in freshwater availability and quality and loss of biodiversity’… Developing…
Flat screen TVs blamed for accelerating global warming… ”
I am calling on all bloggers especially those on the left to get rid of their flat screens now. Do your part for GW. Finally something we can all do.
Monkey when I complained yesterday that there was no substance on the blog the lefters jumped on me with both feet telling me that the blog wasn’t for substanitive info and therefore I should leave.
Just thought I would warn you before they tell you the same thing. They get nasty about this time everyday.
Nathan is simply trying to keep Chas honest and as I have posted I think it is mental and he (Chas) can’t help it.
MonkeyHawk,
I find it annoying that Chas can do or say anything here and is never held accountable for it. Chas is never wrong and never owns up to anything he does here.
In the past you have had no problem letting me know what you think of me as a poster here with all of your insults. Do you think that because you continue to insult me now, that it is somehow different?
I know what kind of Marine I am and my posting here doesn’t demean that in anyones eyes except those that have already determined to see me as demeaned long before this.
If that is how you want to continue to act here, fine.
I choose not to.
MonkeyHawk,
I am not an ex-Marine either. I am still serving. Besides, we don’t call each other ex-Marines when we get out.
Once a Marine always a Marine.
Chas won’t be held accountable until a member of his congregations sees this website AND makes the connection.
Profanity
Profanity is the act of using rude words. The adjective is profane. Profanities can also be called swear words, curse (”cuss”) words, dirty words, bad words, foul language, obscenity or obscene language, or expletives.
Bitch
Means female dog or prostitute; but is usually a rude name for a woman who is considered unpleasant or demanding, or anyone in a servile position. Can also refer to a bad situation (”I had a bitch of a time”). Also used as a verb, meaning to complain (”they bitched about the problem”). By contrast, bitchin’ (sometimes “bitchen”) can mean something very good or pleasant (”a bitchin’ car”).
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity
You can tell a Marine.
(But not much)
And on this holiday weekend, a little reminder about the eeeeeevils of bottled water.
Support your local industries! Buy and use a Coleman JUG!!!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×3558824
Chas
Nathan, the simple fact that you have called me a phony minister, and a non christian dozens of times is pure proof that YOU are a liar here… Now, tell me I am wrong!!!
I am not sure if I have ever called you a phony minister or not. I don’t think I have.
I have often wondered how someone who acts the way you do on this blog could be a minister and questioned you on that.
I still think the way you act here is very unbecomming of anyone calling themselves a minister, Christian or not.
Do I still think that you are not a Christian? Yes.
I am not going to annoy you to make a point anymore though. It only serves to detract from the blog here and doesn’t accomplish anything other than annoying you.
Your beliefs are not Christian. The way you dodge questions about Christ and refuse to ever acknowledge what you believe about Christ along with the things you say about Religious Pluralism is why I say you are not a Christian.
I have offered many times to stop if you would simply answer a few questions about your faith.
You refuse to answer and when you do dodge the questions.
I will not annoy you anymore, but that doesn’t change what I think.
Forgot the quotes on that first paragraph, that was the post from Chas I was responding to.
Coke commercial to be adapted by Obama campaign:
http://www.kewego.co.uk/video/iLyROoaftvN1.html
To be retitled: Obama Brings People Together
(Great commercial by Coke, btw. Saw it in Europe. Why can’t they have Ads like this in the US?)
Thank you Nathan, for your post above that proves you are a liar… Whether YOU like it or not, I AM a Christian… AND, whether YOU like it or not, I am not a phony minister… (you might have used the term “fake” minister — same differrence)
Now, if you want PROOF, contact Phillip Brownlee… The Eagle has a copy of my credentials… You want to call the Eagle liars too???
NOW, do you still want to say you are not a liar??? When you just now proved you ARE??
Chas,
That doesn’t prove I am a liar. It proves that I disagree with you calling yourself a Christian.
Again, I don’t think I have called you a fkae minister either. I have questioned your being one in the past, but I have accepted that you are.
That doesn’t make me a liar. That makes me sceptical.
If I have called you a fake or phony preacher, I apologize. Any such thing was merely name calling on my part and uncalled for.
Do I still think that the way you act here is unbecomming of a minister? Of course.
No one need look any further for why than your post I quoted earlier.
Yeah Nathan.
Chas has a piece of paper that SAYS he is a Christian!
And I’m a Secret Agent Man. (Paper Card in my wallet to prove it!)
Max,
I think he was talking about a paper showing he is a minister.
I am not sure how the paper could prove he was a Christian.
For someone so defensive about it, you think he would be more willing to answer the most basic questions in regards to it.
Nathaniel
Posted July 3, 2008 at 2:00 pm | Permalink
Chas,
How is calling some a Bitch not profane?
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Intentionally irritating??? Yep…
Profane??? Nawwwww not profane…
Get a LIFE Nathan!!!
Oh, I get it — YOU can post that I am not a Christian, even though I am one… and YOU can post that I am not a minister…. And that is being skeptical…. BUT… if I say you are a LIAR because of what you say about me, then that makes ME a liar??
Your logic would baffle even Socrates!!
MAX — I see your keepers let you out of your padded room today… must be for the holidays… GET A LIFE, MAX!!!
“Nathaniel” sitteth upon the right hand of God and says –
(btw, I’m not sure how that’s actually work out; does that mean “Nathaniel” sitteth in Jesus’ lap? Anyway…)
“I am not sure how the paper could prove he was a Christian.”
Nope.
All anyone needs to be a “Christian” is to pass the “Nathaniel” test. Which means no coarse language and accepting late-night WE Blong declarations as to who had better brush up on their technique for treading molten brimstone for eternity.
Who among us ever realized that, come Judgment Day, the judge will be “Nathaniel?”
Golly.
That changes the equation, doesn’t it?
Maybe that tells us why the Marine Corps would rather enlist ex-cons and highschool-dropouts than have “Nathaniel” return to active duty during wartime.
When you’re too crazy for the Marines, you’re crazy, baby!
Nathan,
He’s obviously afraid to admit to his congregation that he posts on the WE Blog as “Chas”.
Nothin for him to be proud about on this web site.
The Phony Preachers are harmful though, so to point out his numerous weaknesses and contradictions is the right thing to do.
Chas brought up his alledged credentials after all, since he has no credibility thru his own words.
Since he brought it up on the blog, it’s fair to challenge him on it.
Max when you were in that padded room did you see :: or square peg. If so he will probably look a lot like chas?
I suspect he won’t be getting out this weekend because evil Chas is in control. Still saying he is a Christian minister.
Have a good holiday.
Course Nathan,
You have to assume that anyone reads the WE Blog, and that people are stupid enough to actually believe Chas.
I’m certain the numbers for both are very low.
Chas,
Your beliefs are not Christian. Would you care to prove otherwise? Are you finally willing to answer some questions?
Once again, I am not saying you are not a minister. If I have done so in the past, I was skeptical. A lie requires intent to decieve. At no time have I intended to decieve anyone by saying you are not a minister.
You are a liar, because you say you do not swear and then called me a liar for saying you do. By almost anyones standards and even the most commonly described standards, calling someone a Bitch is profane. Nevermind that you have called people an A$$hole as well.
Only in your mind is it not. Then again, I am talking to the person who says STFU meant “stand the floor up.”
Nathaniel
Posted July 3, 2008 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
Chas,
That doesn’t prove I am a liar. It proves that I disagree with you calling yourself a Christian.
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Nathan, it DOES prove you are a liar!! How can you think that you have the mind of GOD to disagree with ANYbody who says they are a Christian??
That is just about real close to being blasphemy against the Holy Spirit!!
See, Nathan, you may be allowed to THINK somebody isnt a Christian… But when that person TELLS you that, and you disagree, then YOU are the liar… That isnt something you can disagree about… Not in THIS part of reality!!
By the way, I have been meaning to ask you…. Does Satan believe in Jesus Christ??
Oh yea, you could quite appropriately state that YOU arent the same kind of Christian that I AM… That would be acceptable… Because there are MANY different kinds of Christians… But to say that somebody else, who CLAIMS to be a Christian is not a Christian??? Like YOU and Granny, and others do?? YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO THAT!!
MonkeyHawk,
Show me how the Marine Corps is enlisting highschool dropouts and excons.
Then show me how they would rather do that than my going back to active duty.
I know you can’t, you are just trying to protect your buddy Chas because he has himself in a pickle again.
Perhaps if Chas didn’t call people Bitches and A$$holes and then act like it is not profane and call people liars who say he is swearing at posters he wouldn’t get himself into the hole to begin with.
Of course you would never say anything to Chas about that, at least not publically.
Perhaps you might mention something to him via email.
Then you wouldn’t have to think you need to protect him so much by being so vulgar yourself.
I believe the term I use is A$$Whole…
Last I looked that would be an “A” followed by two $$ signs, followed by the word Whole… Profanity??? Yea, sure… in YOUR mind!!! Why do you think it is typed that way?? LOL dim wit….
Gotcha!! YOU made an interpretation of gibberish into what YOU wanted it to be!!
Smoothe move there, Exlax…
Chas I am sure you are familiar with this passage of scripture. Now Monkey says he doesn’t understand what Nathan is saying but you do because you have those ‘papers’.
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“Many” are going to appear before the Lord “in that day” who sought to enter in at the strait gate through a false intimate association with the Lord. They will have performed works, supposedly in the Lord’s name; and the Lord, “in that day,” will reveal to them that He had nothing to do with these works.
In Matthew 7:23 the Lord’s negative response pertains to two things: 1) entrance into the kingdom (v. 21), and 2) miraculous works (v. 22). Here the Lord declared that certain individuals will appear in His presence “in that day” who will seek admittance into the kingdom of the heavens on the basis of an intimate association with Him, wrought through having previously performed miraculous works.
The Lord though will say, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ['lawlessness']” (v. 23). The Lord will state that He had nothing to do with these works, and He will refuse to recognize those who had involved themselves in such works relative to the matter at hand—entrance into the kingdom.”
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I don’t pretend to be anyones judge; certainly not yours. But I am aware of what these words mean.
Chas,
I have every right to do that. When the things you preach here and profess are not Christian, I have every right.
Chas,
When you use the word A$$whole, everyone knows exactly what you are trying to say even though you didn’t spell it out.
Chas asks “By the way, I have been meaning to ask you…. Does Satan believe in Jesus Christ??”
Oh he most certainly does. But the difference in Satan and a professed Christian is the we call Him our Lord, Master and Savior. Satan is so deluded with his power that he doesn’t recognize that any power he has was given to him by God and someday will be taken back the same way.
Chas,
I don’t say I have the mind of God. I don’t disagree with anyone who says they are a Christian.
I disagree with you saying you are a Christian.
Do you even believe in Satan? If you do, will anyone spend eternity with him in hell and what do you think will be the factor in that?
I’m watching the newscast of the pit bull fighting ring. WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT REPORTING THIS. What the F is wrong with you if you live next door to this and allow it to happen?
And I notice that KAKE isn’t reporting Tiller’s exoneration.
Oh for god’s sakes will you two stop it.
Political Mama,
I didn’t even bring up the Christian thing this time.
I already stopped.
Chas is just upset because he got himself into another situation that he knows he is wrong in, but can’t bring himself to admit to.
So he is going to lash out and change the subject and try to obfuscate as much as he can.
Political Mama,
Do you like people calling you a Bitch? Do you call people that and think it is not profane?
Nathaniel and Chas-
Sorry, nobody cares about your neverending argument. Please do the rest of us a favor and continue to dialogue about Chas’s religious affiliations by email. It really is reading the same posts over and over again.
littlejohn,
I didn’t even bring it up….
That may be true. I am too tired, and too much in a hurry to look. BUt still, it goes on and on and on. Perhaps one is guiltier than the other. It would pay too just ignore it, I would think.
Yes I do consider it profane. And of course I would be irked if someone called me that.
But you can’t admit when you’re wrong most of the time either. So just stop it!
NIght all,
And whatever your political affiliation, whatever your rligious affiliation, including none, may you have a fourth of July that is befitting what you think of the day
Outta here. Maybe around tomorrow, maybe not. Have a great Holiday~!!!!!
Pmom sorry I added to this but I am the person he is calling a bitch. He has no right to call me that. Sorry you don’t see the wrong here when you were incensed that McCain might have called his wife the ‘c’ word. At any rate I will quit with the religious posts.
Chas,
Please apologize for calling OKOB/grm the b-word. She has admited in the past to deliberately trying to annoy other posters and it may be understandable why you called her that. But, it is still possible to regret your actions even if you think they were justified. I have regretted what I have said here before. I try to leave before I get to that point. I think a lot of others do the same.
So, surely you would agree that lowering yourself to the same level as some here is not a good idea.
SO — If God gave all of this power to Satan…. Do we oppose the will of God when we attempt to avoid Satan’s power?? Just wondering here…
Pit bull ring. Hmmmm…
Yeah, if I lived next door to it, I’d probably notice it. Then I’d report it.
Now, if I was attending Rev Wrights Church, I probably wouldn’t notice any of the profane and outrageous things he said. So there would be no problem with it.
I will do my best to ignore it.
Aw, hell (sorry ’bout that “Nathaniel”) –
There are damned few words everybody understands; they probably should be used as often as possible.
But “Nathaniel” — the big tough ex-Marine — gets his panties in a twist when he hears or sees them in print. And it’s proof to him that someone’s not a real “christian.”
Yeah, he has every right in the world to say whatever he wants about coarse language and the people who utter such words.
But “Nathaniel” doesn’t have the right to be taken seriously. And most thinking people don’t.
Obviously, the strategy the Terrorists should use against a military force of “Nathaniels” is to attack while shouting “S#it s#it! Fuc# fuc#! Pi$$ pi$$! Pu$$Y pu$$y!” and the whole regiment would throw down their weapons and hold their ears!
Or else, “Nathaniel” is some kook even the Marines don’t want with them in Iraq or Afghanistan. Which is evident, given the situations.
Hey, “Nathaniel.”
POOP!
Now.
Take me to your leader.
Chas,
When did God give all his power to Satan?
nevermind….
“Christ died for our sins.”
If we don’t sin, He died for nothing.
Gonna go out and sin for awhile.
It’s Happy Hour.
okobserver posted July 3, 2008 at 2:03 pm
“Flat screen TVs blamed for accelerating global warming… ”
I am calling on all bloggers especially those on the left to get rid of their flat screens now.”
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okobserver is a typical Republican.
She thinks(sic) that throwing away flat screens will recover the NF3 that might have been released EARLIER, when the screen was MANUFACTURED.
That’s a neat trick. . . those NF3 molecules floating far away up in the atmosphere, all over Earth, will be somehow be captured when you throw away your flat screen?
okobserver, aka ksgrm,
We’re still waiting for you to post the page # and exact quote from Al Gore’s first book, to support your LIE about his wanting very high gasoline prices.
littlejohn - agreed on both. Tired of the “I’m a better Christian than you” from BOTH sides.
And, of course, a happy 4th to all. Hope you have family etc with you to enjoy!
Happy 4th Ben!!
and okob - I hope you get to have your grandkids around for the fun!
Steven, I will consider it…. However, IF I do, Nathan will then “win” in his continued efforts at being the Blog Bully, and he will once again “get his way.” If that happens, we shall none of us, ever hear the end of it…. And especially from Max, and Granny Wench, et al…. Your thoughts??
Chas, no one is winning anything. Both of you are losing. In fact, the battle is over and you both lost.
Childishness won.
If nathan or anyone else thinks they are “winning” a battle, let them go. That’s how you win the war. Screw this little battle. You are better than this.
And MonkeyHawk? That 3:59 post is just brilliant. I laughed my ass off. And the sinning one too.
Damn guy, yer on a roll!
Not too far fetched a story.
Welcome to Toastmasters, June 13, 2033. That’s right: 2033.
Today Rick Campbell, one of our senior members at age 87, is here to
reminisce a bit and give us a history lesson. He says he is so old that
he learned to drive an internal combustion engine car (remember those)
with a manual transmission. He once owned a typewriter. He remembers when
bicycles had one speed, phones had two-party lines, and cameras had
something called film. As incredible as this may seem, he says that when
he was young, it was common for people to smoke in restaurants and public
places. He is from a different time; almost a different world.
I’m sure all of us are far too familiar with the tragic events of
2010, so Rick is not going to p low that fertile field again. Instead, he
is going to give us a personal look back at the conditions which led up
to that fateful year, in a speech titled “2010 Was Not A Good Year To Be
President.”
“2010 Was Not A Good Year To Be President”
Yes, 2010 was long ago and far away.
As we look back on history, it appears that some Presidents had an
easy ride- times of growth and stability. Teddy Roosevelt, Warren G.
Harding, Dwight Eisenhower, Bill Clinton come to mind. Those were good
years to be President.
Others were elected just when the Republic was facing terrible
crises: Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, George W.
Bush. They rose to the occasion, even though they were controversial and
widely hated while in office. Not such good years to be President.
Just a few years prior, in 2008, the country began foundering. We
were in the sixth year of the Iraqi Occupation, and the economy was flat.
The mainstream press clearly wanted a Democrat elected.
Although we didn’t know it until some years later, oil producing
nations had colluded to secretly buy their own oil on the open market,
driving oil prices to shocking levels above the true demand price-
reaching a high of $162 a barrel in October, 2008, just before the
general elections.
Their purpose was simple: to effect regime change in the United States.
And of course, the U.S. economy was already in a real estate slump
and also suffering the curse of stagflation; slow growth and high inflation.
There were a million home foreclosures.
Independent truckers went under by the thousands.
Airlines failed. Airlines with names now long-forgotten: United,
Delta, Northwestern, American. All now merged, of course, into the one
lone U.S. carrier we love so much: Southwest.
Against this backdrop of weariness of the war on terror, and economic
distress, the American people were ripe for a demagogue, and they
certainly got one in Barack Hussein Obama.
He and his running mate Kathleen Sibelius inspired them with vague
notions of hope and change; of a world in which diplomacy settled all
international problems, of free universal health care, of abundant
alternative energy, of peace and love.
It was a vision too good to resist.
The Republican nominee, a name you probably haven’t heard in years
anyone? Yes, it was John McCain, an obscure Senator from Arizona had no
clue how to run a national campaign, and a platform nearly as liberal as
Obama’s.
The selection of Condoleeza Rice as his running mate looked brilliant
at first. Unfortunately, black voters viewed her as white, and women
voters viewed her as one of the guys.
Even so, the McCain/Rice ticket would hav e won the election if it
weren’t for the fact that 16 percent of conservative Republicans voted
for anyone remember? That’s right, Bob Barr, another name that’s a
footnote in history.
After Obama’s narrow win, thanks to recounts in Broward County,
Florida, the country was positively giddy. A Democrat House, Senate, and
President. At last an end to gridlock in Washington. Camelot!
When Congress convened in January, 2009, the 44th President of the
United States did something unique in history: he made good on his
campaign promises.
Certainly most Americans never really thought he was serious during
the campaign. But whether because of inexperience, idealism, or simply
incompetence, he followed through.
In Obama’s first One Hundred Days, the Congress passed his
initiatives, and he signed them into law as he said he would.
He repealed the Bush tax cuts, and increased capital gains taxes.
He enacted a windfall profits tax, and instituted price controls on
gasoline and diesel fuel.
He passed universal health care, which added an additional 10 percent
tax increase on all working Americans.
He signed the Immigrant Amnesty bill which created 12 million new
citizens instantly, each with entitlements.
He closed the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, and summarily
released all the detainees.
He repealed the Patriot Act, and cut funding for espionage, and
eliminated all terrorist listening and wiretaps.
Most important, he began the complete and immediate withdrawal of all
American troops from Iraq.
He ignored the advice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who wanted to
retain bases in Kuwait and Qatar. Instead, he went with the
recommendation of Secretary of Defense Dennis Kucinich, and ordered all
troops back to U.S. soil.
Viola! In One Hundred Days, by May of 2009, it was all done, and the
vision was complete. He did exactly what he said he would do.
And so it was in the summer of 2009 that things began to unravel for
Obama.
Of course, the economy needed a tax cut, not an increase, and
unemployment quickly rose to 12 percent. Even attorneys and economists
were put in the bread lines. Hard times.
Price controls on gasoline immediately led to shortages and gas lines.
The global cooling trend we have seen for the past 25 years first
became obvious in 2009, exposing the CO2 global warming fraud. People
were justifiably angry.
Federal deficits increased massively because thousands of baby
boomers, facing job loss and much higher taxes, simply gave up and took
social security.
Although the superb U.S. health care system was thrown into disarray,
the bright spot was the creation of the Federal Department of Health
care, and th e immediate hiring of 250,000 administrators, inspectors and
au ditors, the only job growth in any economic sector in 2009.
By February 2010, the U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq was
complete. It was a very expensive undertaking.
And then in March, the gradual Shiite insurgencies from Iran turned
into a true Iraqi civil war. In May, Iranian tanks crossed the border and
quickly took Baghdad. Although the exact number is not know, at least
230,000 Sunni Iraqis died as we stood by.
Iran also quickly moved into undefended Kuwait.
President Obama did exactly what he said he would. He sent Secretary
of State Maria Cantwell to Tehran to meet with Iranian President
Ahmadinejad.
After two weeks of high level talks, the United States agreed to
allow Iran to retain Iraq and Kuwait to create stability in the middle
east, with the understanding that Israel would not be disturbed.
Cantwell returned to Washington, and explained the agreement in her
famous speech, in which sh e proudly noted that the Obama administration
had finally achieved “peace in our time” in the Middl e East.
So there was some surprise at the rocket attacks on Tel Aviv on
August 14th.
President Obama said, “This is not the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad I knew.”
The Obama administration decided it would be de-stabilizing to take
sides in the conflict, and approximately 29,000 Israeli civilians died
during the summer and fall.
American Jews were appalled at the inaction. Yes, in 2010 most
American Jews were Democrats, but because of 2010, they are solid
Republicans today.
As awkward as it was, everything might have turned out all right for
the Obama administration going into the fall mid-term elections of 2010,
if it hadn’t been for the dirty bomb in the Port of Long Beach.
The administration had cut funding for the inspection of containers,
because they felt it showed a “lack of trust” in the international
trading community.
It wasn’t really a very big bomb, and thank goodness, not a real
nuclear device, but nonetheless it contaminated some expensive real
estate- Newport Beach, Palos Verdes Estates- and ultimately caused the
death of 14,000 Americans. People were especially annoyed that
Disneyland had to be closed for decontamination.
And so, in the midterm elections, Republicans regained control of
both the House and Senate, and the rest is history.
The impeachment proceedings against President Obama for “failure to
protect and defend” were swift and nearly unanimous. Vice President
Sibelius resigned. Newly-elected Speaker of the House, J.C. Watts, became
the 45th President of the United States.
But you know the rest of the story well.
Republicans finished the war on Islamic fundamentalists, largely by
aiming ICBM’s at Mecca and Medina.
No Democrat has been elected President since.
Republicans have held both Houses of Congress.
History of Western Civilization and Economics are now taught in all
public schools, and in English only.
Marriage is defined as one man and one woman.
And there are border fences, north and south.
We old codgers remember the ancient Confucian curse: “May you live in
interesting times.”
Well, 2010 was an interesting year, but it was not a good year to be
President.”
“Obviously, the strategy the Terrorists should use against a military force of “Nathaniels” is to attack while shouting “S#it s#it! Fuc# fuc#! Pi$$ pi$$! Pu$$Y pu$$y!” and the whole regiment would throw down their weapons and hold their ears!”
I’m still laughing, ah tell you whut…
And imagine, as TERRIFIED as the military is of gay folks, what would happen if the terrorists stood up and shouted “I’m gay” and the commenced to swear.
Hell, the war would have been over in “days, weeks, months”. It certainly wouldnt have taken YEARS!
hee hee heeeeee…
Hell, George Carlin and Martina Navratalova could have whipped the US forces by themselves…
Lenny Bruce coulda done it single handedly!
I swear to god, boxlicker owns the kansas franchise for mouse grease.
Who knew poodle dancers were allergic to links.
boxie, do you think no one scrolls over if you post the whole freakin’ thing instead of a link?
Jesus WEPT!
I guess the poodle dancers need a long time to warm up for their main performances…
Chas,
What would I win? If you admitted that calling someone a Bitch was uncalled for and simply apologized for that and calling me a liar for pointing it out, I would drop it.
Besides the fact that apologizing for things you are so obviously in the wrong for makes you a better person.
Do it for yourself, not for me.
Do it becaue you are a minister and want to set a better example.
I could think of a dozen reasons to do it and you think that by not apologizing for your profanity here and calling me a liar for pointing it out keeps me from winning?
Sigh…
Nathan —
Heres the story about the Army and Marines accepting more felons —– must make you feel soooo proud and at home now that the marines / army would wave the felonies of sexual abusers Military Waivers for Ex-Convicts Increase
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/21/AR2008042103295_pf.html
By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 22, 2008; A01
The Army admitted about one-fourth more recruits last year with a record of legal problems ranging from felony convictions and serious misdemeanors to drug crimes and traffic offenses, as pressure to increase the size of U.S. ground forces led the military to grant more waivers for criminal conduct, according to new data released yesterday.
Such “conduct waivers” for Army recruits rose from 8,129 in fiscal 2006 to 10,258 in fiscal 2007. For Marine Corps recruits, they increased from 16,969 to 17,413.
Nathan you and I both know you could ask the Marines to retrain you to a specialty that is needed there