Then why do the alarmist make such claims about global warming from these inaccurate computer climate models?

Heck, they don’t even have all the data sets in them and the IPCC references state that they don’t.

How can anyone claim events will happen when their basic model is inaccurate.

Global Warming is a political ploy and agenda driven.

http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/contents.htm

Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ only has his old, Industrial Hygiene engineering degree.
And his very obvious hatred of carbon taxes, and Al Gore.

To be honest, I really wasn’t trying to talk to you about guns. I was merely exploiting the post you made and using it to mock the things some posters here say about guns and school.

Sorry.

It is junk science and political activism.

cosmos is not a scientist.

‘Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ posted July 12, 2008 at 3:40 am
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-710-2/#comment-382388

“The only thing that is happening at these sample stations that read nearly identical co2 levels is that they are calibrated as non-empirical samples.

In other words, they are submitted(sic) as bona fide samples the calibration gas, plus some imaginary weasel factors that the alarmist have dreamed up.

Instead of using actual data from actual sites where human lives, the alarmists have purified and indemnified virginal co2 levels literally out of thin air.”
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Some examples of data that multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ believes are just the “calibration gas, plus some imaginary weasel factors that the alarmist have dreamed up“.

http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/contents.htm

H/T to http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/07/monckton_and_the_aps.php

“THE OBAMA DEATH LIST

The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to Barack HUSSEIN Obama during his time inside the United States. Read the list and judge for yourself…

SARAH BERKLEY – Author of “The Jihad at the Ballot Box” – a book examining Obama’s relationship with radical Islam. Died in a mysterious car crash in 2003.

RUSSELL MCDOUGAL – Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2007. McDougal was known to hold sensitive information about meetings Barack Obama had with arms smugglers. His wife was murdered March 2006 after he went public with his initial reports. His father died July 8, 2006 four hours after McDougal presented his findings on the Savage Nation. Suffered administrative retaliation after reporting discussions by jihadist groups concerning Obama to his superiors.

RODRIGO VILLALOPEZ, a television news camera man who shot the footage of Obama describing small town voters as “bitter” and “clinging to their guns during the primary season.

BRIAN GORING – A defense attorney for Obama patron Antoin Rezko during his trial for extortion and bribery. Died of apparent “natural causes.”

MERCEDES HUGLEY, one of Obama’s many white, female conquests while at Harvard. Filed sexual assault charges against Obama for date rape in 1990. Because “date rape” was not considered a crime like it is today, she ended up dropping the charges. Two years later, she was found dead of an apparent cocaine overdose.

TAMIKA HILL – A former secretary for Obama’s office in Chicago was murdered July 6, 2005 at a rib shack in the south side. Hill had spoken off the record with a reporter from the Chicago Sun Times about meetings Obama had with black militants in the city. She was murdered before she could ever be properly interviewed.

HASAD AL SHAREEZ – FBI informant. Reported to his handler in January 2001 that he had a tape about of a person named simply “B. Hussein” meeting with 9/11 hijacker Mohatma Atta in Prague. Was found shot in the basement of a mosque in Dearborn, MI in October, 2001.

DARSANO RAHARDJO – Childhood classmate of Barack Obama when he attended a madrassa in Indonesia. Was found with his head cut off in a Jakarta alley way in 1970. Many children at the school attributed Rahardjo’s murder to the young Barack Obama. It was likely done as an initiation ritual, since Islam demands that a boy spill another’s blood before the age of ten to prove their loyalty to Allah.

REVEREND DAVID MANNING – Former head of the Trinity Baptist Church in Chicago. Was murdered during the apparent robbery of a catfish restaurant in 1972. Shortly afterwards, Rev. Jeremiah Wright took over as head of Trinity and a many parishoners (who later left the church) suspected Wright in having a hand in Reverend Manning’s death. Decades later, Manning’s son JAMAL MANNING was found dead of an apparent crack overdose in 2004. It was rumored he was going to bring evidence of Wright’s complicity in his father’s death. His testimony was timed to coincide with Obama’s first senate race.

CHRISTOPHER HARGROVE, A former lover of Larry Sinclair. Found dead in a hotel room of apparent auto-erotic asphyxiation in January 2001. Was said to have been enraged when he found out that Sinclair had cheated on Jackson with Obama in the back of a limousine. To get revenge, Jackson planned to release digital pictures Sinclair had taken of the encounter on the Internet.

PAUL ROTHCHILD – Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Washington DC in 2003. A “friend and trusted advisor” to senatorial candidate Barack Obama. Dead of an apparent suicide.

CURTIS “POOKIE” JACKSON – Chicago drug dealer. Was the subject of a police investigation in which he was suspected of funneling money to Obama’s many various community projects. Killed in 1998 in an apparent gang murder.

HARVEY KENYON – Head of Obama’s senatorial security team in Chicago. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside of Grant Park in 2005. Kenyon’s son said his father was building a dossier on Obama. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house

SHEILA BAUGH – A Washington DC madame. Died from a gunshot wound. Reported to have a black book of people containing names of influential people who visited the prostitutes in her brothel. One of those names was allegedly Barack Obama.

KEYSHAWN “SPOON” CALWORTH – Was found dead of an apparent heroin overdose May 18, 1997. Was reported to have ties to Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

LAWSHAWNA MARTIN- 26 year old mother of five, a Cabrini Green resident with a history of substance abuse. Told two of her co-workers at the Blue Peppermint Gentleman’s Club that she would have to quit work because she was pregnant again. Strongly implied that the “baby daddy” was Barack Obama. The next week, she was reported missing. No body was ever recovered, but Lawshana has not resurfaced since making those remarks.

BILL FERGUSON- Senior aide to Barack Obama. Found dead of an apparent heart attack.

GANDY BAUGH – Attorney for Obama friend Antonin Rezko died by falling out an eightieth story window of the Hancock Tower, January, 2003. His client was a convicted Chinese spy.”

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As others have noted, almost no one on the list actually exists, and at least one of them–Gandy Baugh–was also on the “Clinton Death List” perpetrated by Wingnuts back in the 1990’s. I love this comment in particular:

“Wow, so Obama is actually a bisexual, cokefiend, jihadist, evil genius super villain who controls a massive criminal organization and is able to arrange flawless “accidents” for anyone who annoys him, and yet remain a respectable and popular public figure? Like the Black Lex Luthor or something? Well then, I’m definitely voting for him. Unlike the current evil overlords, Obama is at least competent.”

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/10015.html

Calling you Wingnuts “zombies” does a disservice to the undead. And for a bunch of anti-environmentalists, you sure have a thing for recycling.

The review said that eliminating artificial trans-fats from the food supply could prevent between six and 19% of heart attacks and related deaths each year.”

More at link.

Then why do the alarmist make such claims about global warming from these inaccurate computer climate models?

Heck, they don’t even have all the data sets in them and the IPCC references state that they don’t.

How can anyone claim events will happen when their basic model is inaccurate.

Global Warming is a political ploy and agenda driven.

Real science doesn’t need hordes of GORACLE cheerleading propagandists like cosmos.

It is junk science and political activism.

cosmos is not a scientist.

“Hank I think puts in what he does because you frequently post opinions he doesn’t feel are valid.”
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Hank Price seems to believe that posting lies, like his 6:23 am post re NASA, and non-scientific nonsense, like Monckton, proves that the AGW debate is not over.

What Hank is actually doing is proving that the AGW debate IS over.

Thank you, Hank.

Pickens is scheduled to have the meeting at Kansas Expocentre. It’s free and open to the public, but only 400 people will be allowed in.

Doors will open at 2:30 p.m., and the event is expected to run from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m.

Recently, Pickens has swamped the Internet and television commercials with his proposal to eliminate U.S. dependence on foreign oil by substituting wind-generated electricity for natural gas-generated electricity and then using the natural gas to replace gasoline for vehicles.

Pay attention folks, that is what Parkay and his ilk wants. Jailing women or letting them die…which very well could have happened to this woman.

Which is the goal of illegal abortion advocates such as “Parkay”

The death of a newborn baby boy found inside a Chicago, IL vehicle after a woman apparently gave herself an abortion has been ruled a homicide. The boy was pronounced dead at the scene, and an autopsy Sunday showed he died of asphyxia.
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Katherine Gunther, 36, of Lebanon, IN pierced her left foot with a sword while performing a Wiccan good luck ritual at Oak Hill Cemetery. Being in the cemetery during the full moon, even to give thanks [to ???] for a run of good luck, is trespassing, although the witch was not charged after hospital treatment.

Huh?

For such a “busy little worker bee” you sure have ample time for posting here germie!

THAT’S because you get other people to work for you and consider you are doing them a favor.
While YOU reap the rewards.

I took exactly the opposite political journey from you. I was a staunchly conservative kid.

Then I met people like you. This whole “Let’s you go make some money for me and I’ll throw ya a scrap!” was a no go for me.

Apophis: A teacher with little credibility. Would rather toe the union line than think for himself.

…………….maybe “little credibility” to the CONS here, but in the community of my profession, you would be surprised of my status. As for the assertion that I “toe the union line than think for himself”……again a matter of opinion. Who knows, I may one of the people actually setting policy for the union(s).

I openly admit that I loathe the reichwing and will freely hurl insults at each and everyone. It is my due after these last 7 1/2 years of national disgrace!

Beck has questions about this line from Obama’s Berlin speech? The tool. There are scores of international institutions in which the US shares responsibility with other nations.

I won’t waste my time disputing every line this talking suit tries to make hay out of.

Beck states on TV he thinks Obama is a “Marxist”. A pretty tough charge to make with no supporting arguments, but this guy can and does say anything. Beck’s another right wing populist panderer who should be disregarded by anyone seeking truth. Beck uses phrases like “some sort of a Fascist leader” … where the heck does this guy get off?

Another grim comedian: Glenn Beck.

Franklin: Claims to know finances, but follows this administrations obvious failings with a religious fervor.

Nathanial: Religious fanatic who loves guns. Somehow, I really can’t find the connection between the two. One would seem to think the opposite would be true, i.e., WHJD.

cosmos_originally: Seriously one tracked mind. Without google, he would be in global warming hell.

Regular: Strictly and agent provocateur. His gig is fermenting arguments, and from the responses, is very good at it. Nothing serious to contemplate there.

JMWalker: Humor and reason, but falls into Regulars traps too easily. Needs to chill out some.

Fleettwood: Has been called an idiot more times then one can count, and pretty much fits the description.

Apophis: A teacher with little credibility. Would rather toe the union line than think for himself.

HLP: Probably signs off laughing. Has been doing so for the last 7000 years.

ksfarmgrrl: Reads as a typical hard working western Kansas girl, but carries the gay chip a bit too high on her shoulder.

Maybe more to follow. Probably pissed enough off for today.

Scott McClellan admits to Chris Matthews that the White House made a deliberate effort to use FOX News commentators like Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly to disseminate White House talking points.

Matthews: “Did you see FOX television as a tool when you were in the White House? As a useful avenue to get your message out?”

McClellan: “Well, certainly.”

Straight from the source.

Enough with the “fair and balanced” crap already.

CLIMATE EXPERTS WHO SIGNED MANHATTEN DECLARATION
26. George V. Chilingar, PhD, Professor, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering of Engineering,
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Hank posted July 8, 2008 at 7:26 am

QUALIFIED ENDORSERS NOT AT CONFERENCE
88. George V. Chilingar, PhD, Professor, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering of Engineering,
276. Leonid Khilyuk, PhD, Professor of Engineering,

“Cooling of Atmosphere Due to CO2 Emission

Authors: G. V. Chilingar; L. F. Khilyuk; O. G. Sorokhtin; Rudolf W. Gunnerman”
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‘Chilinger: if you assume that CO2 isn’t a greenhouse gas then increasing it doesn’t warm the Earth’
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/07/chilinger_if_you_assume_that_c.php

“A new paper by Chilingar, Khilyuk and Sorokhtin is up to their previous standard.”

More at link.

I was actually trying to be friendly and posting back — you know, like returning a call when someone leaves a message.
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says linkainks as she bats her eyelashes uttering an Oprahism feigning ignorance of her past remarks.

Trans fats don’t have much effect on “taste”, just sometimes a change in texture or mouthfeel.

They increase the shelf life of the product. . . and decrease our life.

http://www.bantransfats.com/abouttransfat.html