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$2,000 000 – 50% – of Senator Roberts’ campaign contributions have come from PACS, special interest group and the lobbyists he CLAIMS to have such disdain for!!!
NASA Discovers 70% Of Global Climate Due To Pacific Ocean Oscillations – Not CO2
Well, well. Congress learned something shattering today, which will have the Church of Al Gore/IPCC running in fear of their lost credibility. It has been scientifically demonstrated that 70% of the Global Warming in the last century (and cooling in the last decade) is due to the Pacific Ocean Oscillations, not CO2:
One necessary result of low climate sensitivity is that the radiative forcing from greenhouse gas emissions in the last century is not nearly enough to explain the upward trend of 0.7 deg. C in the last 100 years. This raises the question of whether there are natural processes at work which have caused most of that warming.
On this issue, it can be shown with a simple climate model that small cloud fluctuations assumed to occur with two modes of natural climate variability – the El Nino/La Nina phenomenon (Southern Oscillation), and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation – can explain 70% of the warming trend since 1900, as well as the nature of that trend: warming until the 1940s, no warming until the 1970s, and resumed warming since then.
The gentlemen making this claim is the lead investigator one of NASA’s flagship Earth Observing Observatories (H/T Ice Cap). I have the honor of working on this mission on the periphery (Aqua), it is operated out of the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, MD.
I posted on some of these effects yesterday. What this means is no matter how much you change your CO2 footprint, how much you try to be CO2 green, no matter how much liberal governments tax you – you cannot save the planet from its natural cycles. Remember, the draconian actions being proposed by the Church of Al Gore/IPCC, which will run into the tens of trillions of dollars and cripple the world economies, is only meant to reduce today’s CO2 levels by a fraction.
Say they reduced the CO2 25%. Say the CO2 is the driver for the remaining 30% of Global Warming (which it cannot be, but let’s just be only half as ridiculous as the IPCC), then all that effort would only impact 7.5% of the forces driving the global climate. The other 92.5% would roll on, impervious to the effort. And since CO2 is not 100% of the remaining 30% of the equation (more like 10%), a more realistic expectation is that all the suffering that would go into dropping CO2 levels by 25% would result in a less than 1% change in the forces driving our climate. In other words, you might as well light a match to all that money because it would have no effect, you would be throwing it away on a fool’s errand.
Must be the week to bust myths, because this means all those efforts to drive down CO2 emissions are a scientifically proven waste of time. I see a lot of Green turning to Red here soon (from the embarrassment of being so wrong).
Update: I like this part of the testimony where the Priests from the Church of Al Gore/IPCC did not even bother to look at this results:
While other researchers need to further explore and validate my claims, I am heartened by the fact that my recent presentation of these results to an audience of approximately 40 weather and climate researchers at the University of Colorado in Boulder last week (on July 17, 2008) led to no substantial objections to either the data I presented, nor to my interpretation of those data.
And, curiously, despite its importance to climate modeling activities, no one from Dr. Kevin Trenberth’s facility, the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), bothered to drive four miles down the road to attend my seminar, even though it was advertised at NCAR.
Now isn’t that a piece of work?
Logically you might not be able to piece it together, but you’re going to have the ability to trade a lot more money than you have in WE Blog. Be aware of WE Blog. This occurs when special interest group uses the software to trade during the 10 % volatility period.
U.S. Expands Visa Program for Iraqi Allies
July 25, 2008
BAGHDAD — The American Embassy in Baghdad announced Thursday that it had expanded tenfold its program to help Iraqi employees of the American government here, who faced threats for their work, to obtain visas and ultimately citizenship in the United States.
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Although the program was established by law in January, it has become a practical reality just in the last two to three weeks as guidelines have been finalized and the embassy has brought in staff members and started processing applications.
The decision is the latest step in the administration’s attempt to answer sharp criticism over its failure to help even those Iraqis who have made the American presence in Iraq possible by serving as translators and supervisors on embassy projects, for the American military and for the Agency for International Development. But critics in the refugee relief community noted that the State Department had promised several times that it would try to speed up the process, and that it had not come through.
State Department officials attribute the gap between words and deeds to a cumbersome refugee resettlement system that includes fingerprinting, job checks, name checks and interviews.
The program will allow 5,000 Iraqis to go to the United States for each of the next five years. Each person can take immediate family members, who include spouses and children. More distant relatives, including siblings, parents and grandchildren, can apply under another program. So the actual numbers emigrating will probably be considerably higher. The average Iraqi household is estimated to have about six people, according to officials from the International Organization for Migration.
Curiously, the new visas were announced in Baghdad, at the American Embassy, and not in Washington, where Gonzalo Gallegos, a State Department spokesman, said he was not initially aware that there was a report of an increase. “One of the things is that we have been working to allow for a greater number of those Iraqis who did work for us to be able to come to the United States,” he said.
Last year a similar program allowed only 500 Iraqi and Afghan translators to apply, and in 2006 the number was 50. This program, written by Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Senator Gordon H. Smith, Republican of Oregon, differs from previous ones because of its scale, because people can apply in Iraq and because they will receive transitional assistance during their first eight months in the United States.
Until this year, Iraqis seeking to emigrate had to go to Jordan, Syria or Egypt. For many the trip was too expensive or they were unable to get visas to gain entry to those countries.
A second program, also established in January, whose rules were announced about six weeks ago, allows Iraqi employees of American nonprofit organizations, media companies and contractors to apply directly for refugee status instead of waiting for a referral from the United Nations. Like the special immigrant visa program, they can apply in Iraq and will be given support initially in the United States. Technically, anyone who qualifies will be accepted, State Department officials said.
But immigration experts warn that because there is a global cap on the number of refugees that the United States accepts and the slots are allocated by region — with some flexibility — it is possible that either Iraqi refugees will squeeze out others who are equally deserving or that not all Iraqi refugees who are eligible will be granted a space.
“We have to push the U.S. to increase the number of refugees it resettles because this is a massive crisis and we do have primary responsibility,” said Amelia Templeton, a refugee analyst at Human Rights First, an advocacy group based in New York. She added that the ceiling for the region that includes Iraq is 28,000 people and that the United States target for Iraqi refugees was 12,000.
Still, together these programs will cover many of the Iraqis who are at risk of being attacked as collaborators by anti-American groups in Iraq. Richard Albright, the State Department’s senior coordinator for refugees and internally displaced people at the embassy in Baghdad, said that he did not believe that the 25,000 cap over five years would cover all American Embassy employees and translators.
The visa programs grew largely because of the combined lobbying efforts of “refugee experts, nonprofit organizations, United States government employees who worked in Iraq and American soldiers and marines,” Ms. Templeton said.
American military officers and State Department employees who were loyal to the Iraqi translators with whom they had worked were forceful in personalizing the plight of Iraqis who were imperiled. Death threats were put on the Iraqis’ windshields, bullets were left on their doorsteps, they or family members were kidnapped, and sometimes their homes were bombed.
Even if Iraqis make it to the United States, they face the difficulty of finding jobs and supporting family members. Often just one person in a family of six or eight speaks any English, making it difficult for the others to help the family with daily life and to hold down a job. Medical care, which is free in Iraq, must be paid for in the United States. Although it is possible for refugees to apply for Medicaid, there are bureaucratic obstacles that could prove daunting for people who do not speak English.
Elissa Mittman, national immigration director for the International Rescue Committee, called the move “a step in the right direction.” But she added that the State Department and Congress must still seek ways to expand the program, and to make sure that there was enough financing to help the new Iraqi immigrants once they arrived in the United States.
Michael Kamber contributed reporting from Baghdad, and Helene Cooper from Washington.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/25/world/middleeast/25visa.html
As you prepare for the end of this week – this glorious Friday and have plans for a full weekend, I offer you this mellow tune from yesteryear to prepare your psyche and soothe your soul.
The Girl From Ipanema
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8TqLmDhOdEc
I’m leaving for Honduras tomorrow…I may find a lovely island to live on until Bush is out outta here. Wish me luck. :)
Enjoy Miss Mary! :)
“The American Embassy in Baghdad announced Thursday that it had expanded tenfold its program to help Iraqi employees of the American government here, who faced threats for their work, to obtain visas and ultimately citizenship in the United States.” — Regular.
The surge worked, yet those who helped the U.S.A. need protection?
He ventured forth to bring light to the world
The anointed one’s pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action – and a blessing to all his faithful followers
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.
The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
It’s official now, Beber,
The surge worked. Conventional wisdom. Obama is now even acknowledging that the surge worked. Of course, he still stands by his vote against it. He even says that even though the surge worked he still would have voted against it.
Thank heavens he’s your candidate, I’ll let you explain.
The surge worked?
I presume the occupation is over then? Can we start spending that money on something I give a damn about?
Great link, Heckler!
I was laughing until I realized that it might not be satire! Watching the coverage of the mullato messiah on the evening news I thought that was satire for a while.
Spooky scarey, this man has believers!
When will bush make the big victory speech? I am so glad this stupid misadventure can finally end and bush can go into history as the winner of a needless and senseless war of his choice. By the way, what did we win? Will bush explain that during the victory speech?
The Surge worked? When will they have to official surrender documents from the ‘enemy’. Can’t have a victory until they sign.
Has anyone told the Iraqi people so they can begin planning their trips home?
Nobel Prize winner and Columbia University economist Robert Mundell, a principal contributor to the creation of the euro, says that ending the Bush tax cuts — as proposed by presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama — would cause “a big recession, a nosedive.”
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Mundell said, “the most important thing that could be done with respect to tax rates is to make the Bush tax cuts permanent.”
http://moneynews.newsmax.com/streettalk/recession/2008/07/16/113395.html
Hey Mary, I hope you have a great trip. Come back and tell us about all the wonderful food. It’s the only thing we dont seem to fight about here :)
Safe travels.
Mr.Price,
I left this comment in Irak, maybe they can enlighten us,
http://gorillasguides.com/
English speaking people of Irak I invite you to post on the Wichita Eagle blog,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/
A weblog sponsored by our local newspaper. Please inform us of of your true feelings about the American led occupation the current conditions in your country and anything else you feel of value. Personally I feel our main stream media does a very poor job of portraying the true situation on the ground.
Respectfully,
am
LJ–
According to the article, “Mundell, an expert in many areas of economics including the proposition that low taxes stimulate an economy, also provided the intellectual groundwork behind the Reagan tax-cut revolution.
“The Reagan-era tax cuts — the so-called ’supply-side economics’ approach to encouraging economic growth — were “as important to the United States as the creation of the euro was to Europe — a fundamental change,” Mundell says.”
So . . . if you liked the Reagan-Bush-Bush years, this guy’s for you.
BTW, under Obama’s plan-unlike McCain’s, LJ, people like you and me DO GET A MAJOR TAX CUT.
Funny how a “middle class tax cut” never seems to be important to right-wing economists . . .
Good morning annie,
Good job girl! If I wanted the truth about Iraq you picked the very best site to go to!
nitwit
Annie–
Thanks for that invitation. It’s a great idea.
The News media doesn’t care about the average person in America, so why should it care about the average Iraqi.
We got story after story extolling the new democracy in Iraq — remember the “purple fingers” showing who had voted?
Nevermind, they were all voting for American troops to leave . . .
Maybe Hank can find a “pro-American” Iraqi website.
Good luck with that.
Nitwit.
I’ve read that millions of displaced Iraq refugees can’t return home. Like the Palestinians when they were driven out of their homes and neighborhoods, their property has become occupied with new tenants.
“HLP” describes his sex life –
“…Watching the coverage of the mullato messiah”
You’d better confer with “Franklin,” who’s convinced Obama is 44% Arab. That might make him the Octarooon messiah and you’ll lose your little alliteration snark.
Them’s the breaks.
You’ve revealed you’re racist scum.
Does the INC have a website for Hank, ahh forget that, Chalabi is probably pissed he’s not the pres.
You’ve revealed you’re racist scum.
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I believe MonkeyC*nt has posted the “N” word and other slurs more than anyone…..Promoter of Racism, MonkeyC*nt..
Perhaps MonkeyC*nt, you could demonstrate “How to Fail in Lib Radio” for us all?
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annie_moose
Posted July 25, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink
Mr.Price,
I left this comment in Irak, maybe they can enlighten us,
http://gorillasguides.com/
English speaking people of Irak I invite you to post on the Wichita Eagle blog,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/
A weblog sponsored by our local newspaper. Please inform us of of your true feelings about the American led occupation the current conditions in your country and anything else you feel of value. Personally I feel our main stream media does a very poor job of portraying the true situation on the ground.
Respectfully,
am
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I suspect a flood of abdullahs and omars will be flooding the WE Blog now.
Of course, they will have a Liberalese accent.
(chortles)
Hank–
The Cambridge English dictionary defines mulatto as “an offensive word for someone with one black parent and one white parent.”
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=52434&dict=CALD
You can continue to publicly show your racism if you want to . . . it helps our side, actually.
“ANTI” raises the quality of debate with –
“Perhaps MonkeyC*nt, you could demonstrate “How to Fail in Lib Radio” for us all?”
Yup.
Been there.
Done that.
Got the t-shirt.
First rule of talk radio: Cater to the prejudices of people who listen to AM radio.
Just as in this forum, right wing-nuts hate to be confronted with the facts. And when they hate the message, they attack the messenger. As with the old law school saw, they “…wave their hands and bang the table.” That’s what ya do if you’ve got nothing of substance.
So, go ahead and resort to 4-grade-level name-calling. I realize it’s all you’ve got.
Regular would know.
He’s the one who faked an right-wing African American visiting scholar and a right-wing Turkman. You remember, the Turkman who couldn’t actually speak any dialect of Turkish?
Good morning Mr.Price,
Thank you for your kind words. Liberal bloggers please contact the good people at Gorilla Guides and please extent an invitation to comment here.
Respectfully,
am
I almost forgot, as “Eier,” James had an old black grandmother . . .
extend opps
Monkey you had a product to sell. Contray to this blog there weren’t enough left wing nuts that believed your message. The smart listeners tuned you out. Lack of listeners convinced your sponsors to cancel their advertising. Your show was canceled. End of story.
It call supply and demand. You were supplying and there was no demand. Show canceled.
Just as in this forum, right wing-nuts hate to be confronted with the facts. And when they hate the message, they attack the messenger. As with the old law school saw, they “…wave their hands and bang the table.” That’s what ya do if you’ve got nothing of substance.
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The fact is that most people don’t buy into the crap Lib radio promotes…most people are not kooks..therefore they don’t listen. This is why Lib radio fails every time it is tried or it only exist in small kook pockets. You guys always think you are grander than the rest.
“Small kook pockets,” like the major metropolitan areas of the country where most Americans actually live.
Thanks to the electoral college, however, rocks and trees still get to vote.
Anti I disagree,
We can’t stand to listen the cons suck 24/7 it’s the cons fault 24/7. Listen to NPR various subjects music, discussion, the listen to con radio liberals suck liberals suck liberals suck. You guys may get a woodie over this crap we don’t.
Cap where has lib radio prospered. What major market would that be? Air America has failed across the board. Their message of hate didn’t appeal to the masses. You can’t change the facts. They speak for themselves.
Annie what you can’t overcome you try to ridicule. You just come off as very weak. Good try but no cigar.
“Small kook pockets,” like the major metropolitan areas of the country where most Americans actually live.
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Tiny listenership compared to Conservative Talk Radio…Lib Radio=small listenership and poorly funded.
Survivor…Kansas Style
Due to the popularity of the Survivor shows, KSN Networks is planning to do it’s own show.
The contestants will start in Wichita, travel west to Pratt, Garden City and up to Colby. From there they will head over to Hays, down to Great Bend, up through Salina and then on to Concordia. They will then proceed to Marysville down to Topeka, then south to Fort Scott and Pittsburgh, west through Independence, Arkansas City and Wellington, then back up to Wichita.
Each contestant will be driving a pink Volvo with New Jersey license plates and large bumper stickers that read “I’m a Vegetarian”, “NASCAR Sucks”, “Go Duke”, Copenhagen is for Idiots”, “Hillary in 2008″, “Deer Hunting is Murder”, “Say No to Budweiser”, and “I’m here to Confiscate Your Guns”. The first one to make it back to Wichita alive wins.
“Annie what you can’t overcome you try to ridicule. You just come off as very weak. Good try but no cigar.”
Thank you I must be having an effect, truth sucks doesn’t it.
First female four-star U.S. Army general nominated
America’s first female four-star general has been nominated, the Pentagon announced Monday.
Lt. Gen. Ann E. Dunwoody was nominated to be America’s first four-star female general.
President Bush nominated Lt. Gen. Ann E. Dunwoody to serve as head of the Army’s supply arm.
By law women are excluded from combat jobs, the typical path to four-star rank in the military.
“This is an historic occasion for the Department of Defense and I am proud to nominate Lt. Gen. Ann Dunwoody for a fourth star,” said Defense Secretary Robert Gates. “Her 33 years of service, highlighted by extraordinary leadership and devotion to duty, make her exceptionally qualified for this senior position.”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/23/woman.general/
Good on ya Gen Dunwoody
CapnAmerica,
I suggest you use that dictionary link of yours to look up what racism is:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=65090&dict=CALD
Because neither the definition of mulatto or it’s use indicates my father is a racist.
You proved he was being offensive, but not a racist.
Juneau man shoots bear who enters home
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8729227
“JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) – A Juneau man shot and injured a bear who he says had entered his residence.”
Robber targets diners in upscale Tacoma restaurant
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_072208WAB_restaurant_robbery_KC.810a4e71.html
“”I want your money and take care of my bill now,” said the suspect.
One of the doctors, who had been at target practice earlier, pulled out his gun and ordered the suspect out, saying, “Get out of the restaurant now!”
Good morning Capn.,
Offensive? So what? I think you and your ilk are offensive. Does that make you a racist?
The whole idea of this inexprienced, liberal, socialist traveling around the world representing this country is offensive to me.
annie_moose
Posted July 25, 2008 at 11:10 am | Permalink
“Annie what you can’t overcome you try to ridicule. You just come off as very weak. Good try but no cigar.”
Thank you I must be having an effect, truth sucks doesn’t it.
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Annie thanks for the help. Usually the left doesn’t capitulate that easily. Point made.
Tiny listenership compared to Conservative Talk Radio…Lib Radio=small listenership and poorly funded.
Libs don’t need anyone to tell them how they think.
CapnAmerica,
I might also point out that what you are doing could be consdiered:
-Cyber bullying
-Stalking
-Annoying
-Immature
-Attacking
-Provoking
There are a few posters here who don’t like it when posters do those things. I wouldn’t expect them to say anything to you because you are a liberal, but thought I would fill in.
I see Nathan is tag-teaming this a.m.
Libs don’t need anyone to tell them how they think.
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You are right, because they don’t think. They go to moveon.org
“okobserver” –
Thanks for revealing how you CONs make up s#it you don’t know anything about.
Fact is, the ratings were good. But the CONs started lobbying the sponsors. Sponsors for that right-wing talk-radio station knew their target audience and — while it might seem logical from a market perspective — shied away from someone actually upsetting people who (obviously) listened every day… but didn’t like the message.
Now, there’s a logical argument to present to those sponsors: “When they call up day after day and week after week and bitch that ‘He said this!’ and ‘He said that!’, it’s pretty obvious that the audience was there. The same people who heard me say “this” or “that” also heard the sponsors’ commercials.
As it turned out, KPHN died an ugly death a few months after the producer fired me for, “…making conservatives look bad.” (The conservatives helped. Trust me.)
“It call supply and demand. You were supplying and there was no demand. Show canceled.”
Again, you know not what you’re talking about. The show was a two-person set-up; point-counterpoint, left vs. right, Lib vs. Con. It was the only four hours of the broadcast day where the CON’s POV was countered by… y’know… TRUTH.
The show wasn’t canceled. It died when the liberal perspective was removed because, “…you’re making conservatives look bad.” (Like I said, the CONs helped.)
I crossed John Ashcroft, Kit Bond, Bob Dole, Crosby Kemper, Jack Cashill, Woody Cozad, Steve Kraske, and a lot of other KC CONs face-to-face. So they had to go behind my back.
Anyway. KPHN was doing just fine until they fired me. I can’t take the credit that, today, the signal runs an automated satellite-fed format of classic country-western songs. I don’t complain; I actually like to hear some Charley Pride every once in a while.
But “the market” had nothing to do with the failure of liberal talk radio in Kansas City.
My talk was too dangerous to the powers that be.
My talk was too dangerous to the powers that be.
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There ya go! Blame it on “The Man” for holdin’ you down!!!!
Libs don’t need anyone to tell them how they think.
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Oh, I almost forgot…The have a “Messiah.”
MonkeyHawk,
Seems like the concept worked great for Hannity and Clomes.
Perhaps your nasty vulgar demenaor had something to do with it?
LOL.. they listen to comedian Rush for an average of ten minutes on their way to McDonald’s for lunch…
From Wikipedia: “In George Orwell’s novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Two Minutes Hate (alternatively two minute hate) is a daily period in which Party members of the society of Oceania must watch a film depicting The Party’s enemies …and express their hatred for them and the principles of democracy.
The film and its accompanying auditory and visual cues (which include a grinding noise that Orwell describes as “of some monstrous machine running without oil”) are a form of brainwashing to Party members, attempting to whip them into a frenzy of hatred and loathing for Emmanuel Goldstein and the current enemy superstate.
Do you think for once you Libs could beat yourselves out of a wet paper bag….by yourself? Or is it always someone else’s fault for your downfalls in life? Give me a break.
Monkeyhawk
Posted July 25, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink
“okobserver” –
Thanks for revealing how you CONs make up s#it you don’t know anything about.
Fact is, the ratings were good. But the CONs started lobbying the sponsors.
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Your arbitron ratings said different. Like a typical lib you try to churn facts. If you had so many ‘listeners’ they would have overridden any conservative opposition.
I am always amazed at the libs argument tactics. They make absolute sense to logical thinkers but the left is breaking their arms patting theirselves on the back for presenting a good argument.
You lost. Plain and simple.
Yes, yes, yes … You win. Let me appease you. Let me surrender and eat some cheese.
The conservatives are alway right and the liberals are always wrong.
Now that that is settled, can we get on with fixing the messes left behind by your boys in Washington for the past seven years?
Oh, I almost forgot…The have a “Messiah.”
Thanks for noticing Anti,
did you see the crowds in Germany inspiring wasn’t it?
Annie, Jones in Guyana had crowds follow him. The founder of Alter Gate had followers. Warren Jeffs has followers. Do we need a new ‘Messiah’ capable of leading the sheep or do we need a leader who advances his ideas and his plans for our future.
I haven’t heard this from Obama. Tell me what he plans to do. Socialize medicine. I’ll give you that one. Raise taxes on the rich. I’ll give you that one. Appease terrorist leaders. I’ll give you that one.
Now. Tell me what he will do to fix high fuel costs. What he will do to fix high food costs. What he will do to create jobs in the rust belt.
I could go on but those should keep you busy. And just saying ‘he is for channnnge’ doesn’t cut it. Be specific.
Lets see…
Obama is going to be a great President because:
-He would be the first Black President
-He wants “change”
-He speaks well
-He sounds very convincing about “change”
-He is well liked by Europeans
Stop me here when I start getting to something or some actual reason for why he would be a good President.
Those are the first things which come to someones mind for why they like Obama.
God Help us.
I keep hoping the left will come up with something more substantial that ‘he isn’t Bush’. They keep forgetting Bush isn’t running. Oh well!
Be specific.
What were not allowed to have a messiah? How Pontius Pilot of you.
Bush may not be running, but name a Bush policy that McCain is not supporting? He’s even in favor of the tax cuts for the rich that he was opposed to.
Bush may not be running, but name a Bush policy that McCain is not supporting? He’s even in favor of the tax cuts for the rich that he was opposed to.
David, to be fair, which deeply held conviction of McCain is what he is thinking today? Maybe he isn’t agreeing with all bush policies today just because he was yesterday. And, isn’t he saying he wants to address global climate change unlike bush? I think it’s fair to say McCain has proven to be quite malleable.
“Nathaniel” chimes in with –
“…the concept worked great for Hannity and Clomes.”
And, actually, it did. “Hannity and Colmes” came after I was fired from KPHN and the station died. The station had a relatively familiar relationship with Fox back then.
But “Colmes” isn’t highly respected among liberal voices. He’s the classic wimp; a straw man who rarely brings the goods. He’s sold out and has a Malibu beach house thanks to Faux News Channel. I should be so
patheticlucky.“Perhaps your nasty vulgar demenaor had something to do with it?”
Yeah, it’s all in my “demenaor.”
Or perhaps it’s what my producer told me when she fired me: “You’re making conservatives look bad!”
As I told her: “They helped.”
And so do you.
;^)
annie_moose
Posted July 25, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink
Be specific.
What were not allowed to have a messiah? How Pontius Pilot of you.
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Annie I expect this denseness from some here on the left but not you. Alas I was wrong. Be specific about how Obama will solve the problems of the citiziens of the US. You know the ones they say are the most important. Loss of mfg jobs. High fuel and food prices.
Do you understand now?
Monkey I know it isn’t your fault. They gave you an impossible task. No liberal could have made good in this market. All of the advertisers only sold products to conservatives. It is marketings fault. If they had brought in liberal advertisers you would still be on the air.
If only….
Linda and Davidb of course you are right. McCain has changed several positions. I’ll give you that. You of course are wrong about Bush and gw much to my chagrin. But McCain has a formidable task ahead of him. With Barry taking both sides of every major issue it is hard for McCain to mold his campaign so he knows which side to take.
This is a sad story. If you haven’t read or listened to his last lecture, it is good. It doesn’t matter what your political leanings, the world lost a good one today.
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‘Last Lecture’ Professor Randy Pausch, 47, Dies
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/25/last-lecture-professor-randy-pausch-dies-at-47/?hp
Do you understand now?
Of course I do.
LOL, Is that the way to direct a great, powerful nations’ political direction… we base it on how much snake oil and Viagra can be sold to a mass of radio listeners who call themselves “ditto heads”?
If someone truly wants to know about Senator Obama’s policy positions, I suggest visiting http://www.barackobama.com/issues
It’s rather unfair to ask a blogger to “explain” a whole range of policy initiatives.
I wonder if this constant ranting about Obama isn’t a ramification of”voter’s remorse”, in that , in spite of their efforts to suppress it, many are coming to the realization that they threw away their last 2 ballots. They were played by a moron and they bought it! Ouch, that’s ‘gotta smart!!
Make that sting, instead of smart.
annie_moose
Posted July 25, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink
Do you understand now?
Of course I do.
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So Annie I take from the brevity of your response you have no answer. So sad..
Barack Obama’s Plan
Jumpstart the Economy
Provide Additional Tax Rebates to American Workers: The economy has continued to weaken significantly, despite congressional action to provide immediate tax rebates to American consumers. Stimulus: $20 billion.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#jumpstart
How will he pay for this?
DavidB
Posted July 25, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink
LOL, Is that the way to direct a great, powerful nations’ political direction… we base it on how much snake oil and Viagra can be sold to a mass of radio listeners who call themselves “ditto heads”?
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Actually I was talking about why Monkey lost his radio program. You made a real stretch there David. Did you get dizzy with that big spin?
Observer: Some see taking both sides. Others can see taking a third alternative.
You know that there can be more than two sides to an issue.
So why is it important if Barry take one side or the other?
Establish a $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund:
Given the downturn in the economy, Obama is calling for immediate creation of his Foreclosure Prevention Fund that will dramatically increase emergency pre-foreclosure counseling, and will help families facing foreclosure to responsibly refinance their mortgages or sell their homes.
Obama’s plan will not help speculators, people buying vacation homes or people that falsely represented their incomes.
how will he tell the difference?
It is meant to help responsible homeowners
Responsible people do not take out loans they can not afford.
through this difficult period. Stimulus: $10 billion.
How will he pay for this? How will this prevent people from taking out more bad loans? If there is no risk, why not? The government will bail you out.
Haven’t heard of anyone praying in front of a card board blow up of Obama, like the bushist did. Haven’t heard anyone claim God sent us Obama, like the fundie bushies did.
It’s our turn!
LLTVET
Posted July 25, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink
Observer: Some see taking both sides. Others can see taking a third alternative.
You know that there can be more than two sides to an issue.
So why is it important if Barry take one side or the other?
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lindainks55
Posted July 25, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink
David, to be fair, which deeply held conviction of McCain is what he is thinking today? Maybe he isn’t agreeing with all bush policies today just because he was yesterday. And, isn’t he saying he wants to address global climate change unlike bush? I think it’s fair to say McCain has proven to be quite malleable.
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Thanks for the response Vet but your discussion would actually be with Linda and DavidB. I was merely responding to a linda link.
Thats OK. Glad I could help you out. I notice the left get confused easily and I am always ready to lend a hand.
Provide $10 billion in Relief for State and Local Governments Hardest-Hit by the Housing Crisis to Prevent Cuts in Vital Services: Because of the housing crisis and the weakening economy, many state and local governments are facing significant revenue shortfalls. Barack Obama believes that in the areas hardest-hit by the housing crisis we should provide immediate, temporary funding to state and local governments so that the decline in property values does not cause them to slash critical public services and cut vital infrastructure spending. Stimulus: $10 billion.
How will he pay for this?
Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families:
Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new “Making Work Pay” tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The “Making Work Pay” tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
Which workers get the tax cuts? I work, will I get a break?
And as always, how will he pay for this?
Sol I don’t agree with Paul on most things but he is spot on with many things. He looks at things realistically which could be why he isn’t a candidate. Realism is something lots of people want nothing to do with. We are becoming a country built on fairy tales.
Simplify Tax Filings for Middle Class Americans:
Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes. Obama will ensure that the IRS uses the information it already gets from banks and employers to give taxpayers the option of pre-filled tax forms to verify, sign and return. Experts estimate that the Obama proposal will save Americans up to 200 million total hours of work and aggravation and up to $2 billion in tax preparer fees.
Who exactly is the middle class? Who defines that? Will this end deductions? Who were the ‘experts’?
Whoops, forgot to add, how will he pay for this?
If you’d of used the hannity/colmes model you probably could have succeeded in Ks., just play the RW whipping boy/punch bag role.
Where are the Obama fans? I followed the link provided. I looked under the economy header. This is propaganda from Obama’s site. So who knows the answers? Very ‘pie in the sky’ thinking, but I am tired of pie. I want meat. I want to know how he intends to pull all of this off.
Wow think of the massive programming necessary to make this work!
And… I’m going to trust the government to acuratelly file my tax returns. Not..
No Observer. McCain doesn’t have to wait on someone else to chose. He can mold his campaign now. And It doesn’t have to be 1 or 2 either.
Leadership is making a choice. Taking your lumps for it. Being called Naive or paranoid (or neither or a little of both). Being called Progressive or old-fashinoned (or neither, or a little of both) I won’t beat a dead horse. I think you see my point.
Hank,
Roy Spencer. . . again?
Thank you Hank, for helping to prove that the AGW debate is over.
‘How to cook a graph in three easy lessons‘
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/05/how-to-cook-a-graph-in-three-easy-lessons/
“These days, when global warming inactivists need to trot out somebody with some semblance of scientific credentials (from the dwindling supply who have made themselves available for such purposes), it seems that they increasingly turn to Roy Spencer, a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama.
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The impressive graph that isn’t
So here’s what Roy did. He took two indices of interannual variability: … And voila, look what comes out of the oven!”
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‘Roy Spencer
Interfaith Science Advisor’
http://www.desmogblog.com/node/1397
“Satellite Research Refuted
According to an August 12, 2005 New York Times article, Spencer, along with another well-known “skeptic,” John Christy, admitted they made a mistake in their satellite data research that they said demonstrated a cooling in the troposphere (the earth’s lowest layer of atmosphere). It turned out that the exact opposite was ocurring and the troposphere was getting warmer.”
More at links.
What happened to the Obama fans? Did y’all hear his speech in Germany? Sounded a hell of a lot like forced globalization? Sounded a lot like another charismatic leader in Germany that wanted globalization.
“Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes”
He is going to do this personally? Silly me, I thought we lived in a democracy, where no single person has unlimited power.
Phantom
Posted July 25, 2008 at 12:50 pm | Permalink
If you’d of used the hannity/colmes model you probably could have succeeded in Ks., just play the RW whipping boy/punch bag role.
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Actually the first talk radio I ever listen to was Alan Colmes and Ellen Ratner. That really dates me I know. I was a democrat at the time and they turned me around. Thank goodness. I have been conservative ever since. The fact that we were knee deep in making our family business successful helped also when we saw how the tax structure favored those who only set and watched.
They didn’t last long either and were nation wide and not local like Monkey. Thanks for the memories.
Massive program? I don’t think so. Our program isn’t really that hard and it’s the one Accountants use to do K-1’s, recaptured 179 etc.
To do a program similar to electronic filing where the IRS already has your W-2, SSN, and the like isn’t that hard. Now K-1, 179, etc. That would probably fall into the “not middle class” definition. After all, the stimulus checks went out pretty much with out a hitch.
Are we feeling a bit too Orwellian today?
cosmos,
Why does the IPCC put lies in their draft reports?
Why is CO2 higher than in the last 800,000 years, yet we are not nearly as hot?
Why did the graph you posted show that CO2 is going off the chart while temperatures have down trended since 1998?
Vet for one thing this is the government we are talking about. For another we would be mining data from multitudes of banks, credit unions, financial institutions, iras, 401k, stock portfolios, etc.. Not all would be profit. History would have to be available to make that determination. For the single taxpayer with only w2 income and very minor income from other sources such as banks or credits union – simple yes but not across the board.
I still say massive programing if possible at all. Probably just another Obama fairy tale solution.
It’s the government. Fair enough. Also, it won’t step on my toes because I program for Corp/Scorp, but it may effect some of my collegues a little. Fair enough.
But reality is. It’s pretty much in place now or HR block wouldn’t be able to give such rapid refunds. It wouldn’t be that much to change.
Now whether you want it or not. Different story. Like I said above. Those points are correct.
Excellent posts Sol.
When mice are confronted with a large boot heel, they usually scatter…that goes for monkeys too.
From Fox News:
Ex-Astronaut: Aliens Are Real and Government Knows It Friday, July 25, 2008
Former NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr. Edgar Mitchell — a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission — claims aliens exist.
He says extraterrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions — but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades.
Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview in Birmingham, England, that sources in the federal government who had had contact with aliens described the beings as “little people who look strange to us.”
He said supposedly real-life ET’s were similar to the traditional image of a “small gray” — short, slight frame, large eyes and large head.
Mitchell also claimed human technology is “not nearly as sophisticated” as the aliens’ and “had they been hostile,” he warned “we would be been gone by now.”
SOL, your a libertarian. You know better. Your not supposed to be preaching fear tactics. Barry Goldwater would roll over in his grave.
Just look at the Republicans wagging their tails because of you. tsk tsk.
LLT,
My bad. Saw a similarity and posted it.
What I’d like to know from either side is how non-interventionism equated to isolationism. Or is that just a nice way for folks to say they don’t want to get their fingers out of everyones’ pies?
“little people who look strange to us.”
“small gray” — short, slight frame, large eyes and large head.
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My oldest son looked like this description when he was born. Scared me for awhile. He improved with age.
:)
“Barry taking both sides of every major issue it is hard for McCain to mold his campaign so he knows which side to take.”
That was quite a creative excuse, germ. Couldn’t McCain stake out his positions on what he thought was right and the correct course for this country?
No prob Sol, I know your feeling ornery today and I saw your posts on the McCain thread. Your dishing it out on both ends. Spoken like a true libertarian. I was just giving your crap.
It’s Friday.
“Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes”
Yes, he will do it on his own after declaring America an Islamic state and enslaving the white race!!! LOL
Well, when all those Republican get booted out… a President Obama may have some help in the House and the Senate…
“Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes”
Yes, he will do it on his own after declaring America an Islamic state and enslaving the white race!!! LOL
Well, when all those Republican get booted out… a President Obama may have some help in the House and the Senate…
I was thinking more Ross Perot.
So no one here can defend Obama’s nor McCain’s (see McCain thread) policies? Out-freaking-standing.
Hank Price,
I say that the heading of your 6:23 am post is a LIE.
Try to prove I’m wrong by posting the NASA link it came from.
Thank you Hank, for helping to prove that the AGW debate is over.
I wish these people would make up their minds.
“Global warming is likely to reduce the number of hurricanes that occur each year, according to two new studies by forecasters who previously claimed global warming would cause more hurricanes”
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=23558
A closer look at the Obama speach…
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/12943/
I really wish I lived in Grm’s super-simplistic world.
Probably just another Obama fairy tale solution.
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My my my you sure don’t believe in good old fashioned American can do spirit.Why do you hate America?
Sol, Starting the he_ _ raising a bit early on this beautiful friday. There is a slight chance that Barr might win Georgia. But it’s going to be a few more years until a Libertarian President. We still need a few more congressmen and governors first.
Meantime one of those two will win and our country will survive them just like we survived Clinton and Dubya.
Soon we will do more than survive.
Dear Friend,
You may have heard or read media reports about actions yesterday in Congress to deal with the housing debt crisis and to bail out two private lenders known as Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
The bill passed the House of Representatives and will be taken up in the Senate and once through that pork factory, President Bush has said he will sign it. If I were your President I would veto it so fast, heads would spin.
The bill – and that’s exactly what it is – is a bill you are going to be expected to pay! It’s for an estimated $400,000,000. That is, of course, $400 Billion that we don’t have, so more borrowing is ahead. Your share of this expense? About $1,300.
And that’s on top of the more than $31,000 you already owe!
In 2001, the national debt crossed $6 Trillion. Today, it is closing in on $10 Trillion. Our debt is growing faster than at any time in our nation’s history and there is no end in sight.
Yesterday I issued a statement to the media blasting their actions. Today I ask your help in getting out the message that President Bush and Senators Obama and McCain are wrong for bankrupting our future with more and more debt.
Sincerely,
Bob Barr
P.S. – You may also want to call your U.S. Senators to tell them to vote no on the big-bank bail out. And remember, if I were your President, this bill would be dead on arrival at the White House. Please help me change government. Thanks again.
My my my you sure don’t believe in good old fashioned American can do spirit.Why do you hate America?
AM,
Can you defend Obama’s policies? Why do you want to bankrupt America? Why do you hate America?
Are we allowed to discuss John Edwards on the WE blog? The LA Times forbids this.
Is John Edwards going to sue the paper that alleges his affair? J Edwards is a professional suer why not sue if he is lied about?
It’s already bankrupt sol. I’m afraid you guys done us in. We are a mere shadow of our former selves. I believe you were a Republican before you threw the party under the bus.
As far as bailouts for the market. I don’t agree. Free markets and all. Balance the budget fine, raise taxes if necessary to do it. Just because Obama’s my man doesn’t mean I agree with everything he says.
Is John Edwards going to sue the paper that alleges his affair?
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Speaking of drillin’ new wells….Edwards beat us to the punch!
Bankrupt, maybe. Fortunately, nobody can forclose on us. And your right Annie. I used to be a republican before I saw that they were just as frivolous in their spending as democrats. They just thought that spending it on military overseas was good debt. Both sides seem to think that their wasteful spending is “good debt” If you wish to call that under the bus. Knock yourself out.
Libertarians realize that they are both full of it.
AM
I have always been a conservative. The GOP is no longer conservative. They threw themselves under the bus. Just look at their front man.
And for the record, look at Michigan. During an economic downturn, our governor raised taxes. Now we are the weakest economy with the strongest unemployment in the nation. You can not – CAN NOT – raise taxes during an economic down turn. Didn’t Carter try that?
So, on which economic issue do you side with Obama?
You know what is hysterically funny and terrifying at the same time? When posed questions about ‘their candidate’s’ policies, more often than not, the response is similar to
doesn’t mean I agree with everything he says.
I have yet to see ‘either side’ actually defend a questioned policy. Scares the sh!t out of me that one of these two are going to be president.
You can not – CAN NOT – raise taxes during an economic down turn. Didn’t Carter try that?
So, on which economic issue do you side with Obama
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Well it’s a matter priorities I guess. Save the dollar balance the budget have a short recession or drag things out like Japan has been doing for 10 years. Leadership is about tough unpopular choices. Sorry conservatives aren’t up to it.
Doesn’t scare me Sol. Luckily we have a Congress and a SCOTUS. Heck, they even kept Dubya and the Bill and Hillary show from completely screwing things up.
But it sure would be nice to have someone in the White House to tell both of our political parties how full of SH** that they have become.
So no specific policy then AM?
And I hear ya LLT.
But it sure would be nice to have someone in the White House to tell both of our political parties how full of SH** that they have become.
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I’ll give a big amen to that LILVET
play nice children have a nice day
Sorry conservatives aren’t up to it.
Well, I have to call you on that one. Dr. Paul has a hell of a lot better grip on the economy than either of the two liberals running.
You did say conservative.
Leadership is about tough unpopular choices
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But isn’t that why you hate Bush?
Okemos grad drives U-M solar car to victory
The 21-year-old Okemos High School graduate and University of Michigan senior recently competed in the North American Solar Challenge, a competition to design and race solar-powered cars through the United States and into Canada.
Bailey was one of 18 students on the University of Michigan Solar Car Team, which beat its nearest competitors by 10 hours.
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080725/NEWS01/307250002/-1/nletter02&source=nletter-news
And no one here can defend Obama’s pie in the sky ‘policies’ either?
Sol and Vet, I agree with your disappointment, with the irresponsibility of most elected officials at every level, and your wish to balance the budget, reduce the debt, reduce (mostly eliminate!) the areas government puts her nose… But both of you (who are posters I respect and learn from!) are becoming shrill and ganging up with your criticism. The way people do when they egg one another on. You both know what I mean even tho my words aren’t good at explaining it because you’re both reasonable people.
And, the solutions aren’t coming out of your keyboards any more than others. Specifics that are realistic. Not broad overviews and goals, but specific steps, simple ones that can be followed by the multitudes. If you think we can take the BIG steps without some baby steps maybe I’ve misjudged your reasonableness.
I would welcome a revolution (peaceful!). I think there are a majority of people who would. But in order to inspire, you must have inspirational leadership. Someone who engages the people long enough and sounds reasonable enough to get the points across and gain the support needed.
Most of the time you two are good ambassadors. For the last few posts I saw you ganging up on annie moose who is also a reasonable person / poster. That doesn’t get you far.
Dr. Ron Paul may have some excellent ideas, but he needs to have a have of being heard. Leadership has many facets and must include a way to get the ideas welcomed and embraced by enough people to make an effort towards realizing them.
Linda,
For policy answers
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/mission/
As for AM, I simply questioned her on what economic policies she supports Obama on. I have several posts here and on the McCain thread. No one can seem to support “their guy’s” policies. I find it strange that you would support a candidate, yet not support their planned policies. Kinda scary really.
Do you support any of Obama’s fiscal policies? If so, do you know how he intends to fund them?
It is an open question to anyone. McCain supporters and his policies too.
The silence is deafening.
Y’all have a safe and happy weekend. Smoking some ribs tomorrow or Sunday. MMM MMM Good !!!
cosmos_originally
Posted July 25, 2008 at 1:32 pm | Permalink
“Hank Price,
I say that the heading of your 6:23 am post is a LIE.
Try to prove I’m wrong by posting the NASA link it came from.
Thank you Hank, for helping to prove that the AGW debate is over.”
You remind me of my first wife, cosmos!
She would say, “You can’t get me in an argument.”
“Yes I can.”
“No you can’t.”
Sorry my little global warming fanatic, the debate isn’t over. In fact, in light of recent global cooling, the ‘debate’ on AGW is the only thing heating up!
I’ll work on an answer, Sol. I want it to be a serious answer because I know the question is serious. Enjoy the weekend, the family, the ribs!
By the way, I found no specifics at Ron Paul’s site. Broad objectives but no specifics. His words and goals are different, I didn’t find other differences. However, it is easier to read his words than listen to him deliver them.
I don’t think I ganged up on Annie. I just thought her post about how Libertarians threw the GOP under the bus was a bit out of line.
Linda, you present your ideas just fine. Now I agree, that in order for this to happen, baby steps. As I have told Sol. The first Baby step is to start electing Libertarian congressmen and Governors. I voted for Cramer in 2006. Sebilius still won. But that is the Baby Step. Another first step, in my opinion, is to see that both parties are out of touch. My opion, strange enough, is the same that Jesse Ventura had. Strange enough, he had some decent ideas. In his words “we have two political parties, one more than the Soviet Union had. And each party wants to get rid of the other.” You can scoff at a professional wrestler. But show how that idea is wrong. You can’t.
Well, everyone have a great weekend and stay cool. I am off to the lake to enjoy nature’s gifts!
I’m sorry for the rant, Vet and Sol! I returned from being gone a few hours, quickly read, found criticism and I over reacted. I do that too often! I honestly try, must be a really slow learner.
I need to see specifics about how this revolution can take place. It’s too foreign to me. Could it be too foreign to most? And, so far, there hasn’t been a calm, eloquent, inspiring (one of those traits?) person to get our attention long enough to get some of the info out. Senator Paul was squeeky and all-too-often radical sounding. So the sounds of him kept me from hearing what he was saying.
I realize I am admitting how shallow I am. I need to know why I would vote for someone who would have little support. Without support how could any idea be viable?
I thought annie said the Republicans threw our economy under the bus. I’ll go read more carefully and get facts before speaking again. That’s a good start, huh?
I have the ANTIboat for that…
ANTIboat — for being a loud mouth jump to conclusions criticize without full understanding idiot? bottle it up! It will make you a millionaire. maybe we can force feed it to politicians. run of the mill citizens will take it on their own as they recognize the need for improvement. ;-)
Years ago a close friend worked at Bank IV when they were bought out by Boatman’s. After the buy out she told people she worked at Boat Four. Your comment reminded me of those times and made me smile.
Linda,
Last night you posted something about a school shooting.
I don’t believe you.
How was someone able to get a gun into a gun free zone?
Everyone knows that guns are not allowed into a school.
Isn’t it so obvious how inappropriate bringing a gun to school is?
I simply can’t believe that anyone would be able to bring a gun into a gun free zone and even if they could, why would they? It is so inappropriate.
You have a good point Linda. If I were to have one criticism of Ron Paul, it would be his lack of optimism.
What I don’t see in this election is a Reagan type optimism. I see fear.
Now Obama has tried to capture the Reagan optimism. Ron Paul should have done so as well.
Hank Price posted July 25, 2008 at 3:22 pm
“Sorry my little global warming fanatic, the debate isn’t over.”
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And Hank foolishly thinks that he can prove that lie, by posting lies about NASA, and unscientific claims from Monckton, Spencer, et al.
Thank you Hank, for helping to prove that the AGW debate is over.
nathaniel, I posted the link to the news. That’s all I thought about was the sad “news.” Guns are nothing I am interested in. I think they smell bad and they make my hands dirty and smell bad. Just plain not interested in touching them or talking about them.
I have a children’s book that is special to me for reasons I won’t bore you with. It’s titled “Life is Good!” Written by trixie koontz (who is a beautiful golden retriever) and edited by dean koontz (trixie’s human dad).
There is one story trixie tells that always reminds me of you! She is talking about going to the movies and she has noticed that dog movie stars are funny — well except for Old Yeller (she’s pretty sure that movie was written by an angry hateful crazy cat!) and Lassie. She says Lassie is sooo busy saving stupid Timmy she never had time to be funny. And worse yet, Timmy never gave her peanut butter! Nope, just said, “thanks, girl,” before running straight into a burning barn or quicksand.
You never seem funny either, too serious! I know you’ll be prepared to save whoever needs to be saved — you’ve told us all many many times! Maybe you could relax sometime and not think about saving whoever needs to be saved? If guns are something you enjoy — GOOD FOR YOU! Maybe you are fun or funny when you’re doing your gun thing? Maybe you should talk about your gun thing to someone who also finds it interesting?
Linda I understand exactly how you feel about guns because I feel exactly that way about fishing.
Maybe Nathan doesn’t like to read books written by dogs but doesn’t care if you do.
While you are chastising could you tell Cosmos that very few people care about his constant and boring posts on GW.
To each his own I always say.
Good thing they have delicious shell fish! Things are just not gonna taste the same!
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California Is First State to Ban Trans Fats
LOS ANGELES — California became the first state in the nation to place a ban on trans fats in restaurants and retail baked goods Friday when Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill to phase out their use over the next few years. Under the new law, the artificial fats must be excised from restaurants beginning in 2010, and from all retail baked goods by 2011.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/us/26fats.html?em&ex=1217131200&en=177d2d602bc884b7&ei=5087
Worst over for drivers as pump prices slide: AAA
NEW YORK (Reuters) – U.S. retail gasoline prices have fallen more than 10 cents per gallon in a week and could fall another 25 cents by the end of summer, a sign the worst is over for U.S. motorists this vacation season.
“We expect pump prices below $4 this weekend and we could see the price fall another 25 cents before Labor Day (September 1), if oil prices don’t rebound,” said AAA spokesman Geoff Sundtrom. “We think it is primarily in reaction to the drop in demand by American consumers.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2542436220080725?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
Linda, dear!
There are a lot of posters on the WEBlog that are interested in guns! There is a lot of local and national gun news. It’s perfectly normal and OK for Nathaniel to post about guns.
What a wonderful expert resource we all have on guns with Nathaniel!
He’s a Kansas hunter safety instructor.
He’s an armorer in the Marines.
He’s a ‘high expert’ sharpshooter in the Marines.
He’s a marksmanship instructor in the Marines.
He’s a range safety director for everything from hand guns to surface to air missles.
He’s obtained his CCH license in Kansas.
Now I realize that he appears to be some kind of panty-wetting-threat to some of the liberals here on this highly enlightened doo dah BLOG but you need to just get over yourselves and not participate in the threads on guns if you don’t want to learn anything.
You are absolutely correct Hank! I’ll bet he could talk to many people who are very interested. Maybe he could address those posts to someone other than me? If you will look up thread there it is, my name, him (once again!) wanting to talk to me about guns. I don’t know how to get through to him that I find guns totally uninteresting. Guess ignore will be the best way, huh?
And, speaking of books written by dogs. . .
Hank the Cow Dog is a wonderful series of books, written by . . . Hank the cow dog!
okobserver posted July 25, 2008 at 5:30 pm
“While you are chastising could you tell Cosmos that very few people care about his constant and boring posts on GW.”
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okobserver, why don’t you tell Hank Price not to make his long, early am copy/pastes every day? Like his LIES about what NASA “discovered” at 6:23 am upthread.
Linda I was interested in what Nathan said about guns in school. My current Newsweek had an article about a school shooting that could have been prevented in so many ways. Teachers are instructed in ways to make kids accepting of diversity but miss the mark on the mind of young teens. It is very disturbing and the gun was but a small part of it. Interesting read.
I was actually trying to be friendly and posting back — you know, like returning a call when someone leaves a message.
Hank I will have to ck into that one and the one Linda mentioned. They both sound good and I am fond of canine authors.
Linda: The Chinese and Indians subsidized gasoline until just recently causing the demand to drop in those countries as well. Until now they have been shielded from reality and like elsewhere it is consumer demand that drives up demand and price. The Indians forbade petrol specualtion a long time ago which helped somewhat to hold the price down.
Cosmos it really isn’t personal with me but I do what I can about GW whether I fully believe it is man made or not. You and your frequent post have been off putting to me. I have just stopped reading them entirely as many on here have.
Hank I think puts in what he does because you frequently post opinions he doesn’t feel are valid. He might quit if you would. Is there a blog that just deals with GW issues?
I’ll have a little father/son talk with the boy, Linda.
Can’t promise anything but I’ll see what I can do.
lindainks55,
Trans fats don’t have much effect on “taste”, just sometimes a change in texture or mouthfeel.
They increase the shelf life of the product. . . and decrease our life.
http://www.bantransfats.com/abouttransfat.html
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lindainks55
Posted July 25, 2008 at 5:58 pm | Permalink
I was actually trying to be friendly and posting back — you know, like returning a call when someone leaves a message.
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says linkainks as she bats her eyelashes uttering an Oprahism feigning ignorance of her past remarks.
Hank Price posted July 18, 2008 at 6:46 am
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-718-2/#comment-385741
“Cooling of Atmosphere Due to CO2 Emission
Authors: G. V. Chilingar; L. F. Khilyuk; O. G. Sorokhtin; Rudolf W. Gunnerman”
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‘Chilinger: if you assume that CO2 isn’t a greenhouse gas then increasing it doesn’t warm the Earth’
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/07/chilinger_if_you_assume_that_c.php
“A new paper by Chilingar, Khilyuk and Sorokhtin is up to their previous standard.”
More at link.
Hank posted July 8, 2008 at 7:23 am
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-78/#comment-379987
CLIMATE EXPERTS WHO SIGNED MANHATTEN DECLARATION
26. George V. Chilingar, PhD, Professor, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering of Engineering,
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Hank posted July 8, 2008 at 7:26 am
QUALIFIED ENDORSERS NOT AT CONFERENCE
88. George V. Chilingar, PhD, Professor, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering of Engineering,
276. Leonid Khilyuk, PhD, Professor of Engineering,
This just in from the Department of the Obvious:
Scott McClellan admits to Chris Matthews that the White House made a deliberate effort to use FOX News commentators like Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly to disseminate White House talking points.
Matthews: “Did you see FOX television as a tool when you were in the White House? As a useful avenue to get your message out?”
McClellan: “I make a distinction between the journalists and the commentators. Certainly there were commentators and other, pundits at FOX News, that were useful to the White House.” […] That was something we at the White House, yes, were doing, getting them talkng points and making sure they knew where we were coming from.
Matthews: “So you were using these commentators as your spokespeople.”
McClellan: “Well, certainly.”
Straight from the source.
Enough with the “fair and balanced” crap already.
Poor naive Monkeyhawk. As if politicians don’t use the media. Or that exact thing doesn’t go on with all the MSM and the Obama campaign even as we speak.
Having read this blog for some time, I have come to the conclusion it is inhabited by a weird assortment of homo-sapians who have a decided penchant for verbally beating each other daily. Listing, in no particular order of importance, are the following, along with their traits:
Franklin: Claims to know finances, but follows this administrations obvious failings with a religious fervor.
Nathanial: Religious fanatic who loves guns. Somehow, I really can’t find the connection between the two. One would seem to think the opposite would be true, i.e., WHJD.
cosmos_originally: Seriously one tracked mind. Without google, he would be in global warming hell.
Regular: Strictly and agent provocateur. His gig is fermenting arguments, and from the responses, is very good at it. Nothing serious to contemplate there.
JMWalker: Humor and reason, but falls into Regulars traps too easily. Needs to chill out some.
Fleettwood: Has been called an idiot more times then one can count, and pretty much fits the description.
Apophis: A teacher with little credibility. Would rather toe the union line than think for himself.
HLP: Probably signs off laughing. Has been doing so for the last 7000 years.
ksfarmgrrl: Reads as a typical hard working western Kansas girl, but carries the gay chip a bit too high on her shoulder.
Maybe more to follow. Probably pissed enough off for today.
“Now is the time to join together through constant cooperation and strong institutions and shared sacrifice and a global commitment to progress to meet the challenges of the 21st century.”
Beck has questions about this line from Obama’s Berlin speech? The tool. There are scores of international institutions in which the US shares responsibility with other nations.
I won’t waste my time disputing every line this talking suit tries to make hay out of.
Beck states on TV he thinks Obama is a “Marxist”. A pretty tough charge to make with no supporting arguments, but this guy can and does say anything. Beck’s another right wing populist panderer who should be disregarded by anyone seeking truth. Beck uses phrases like “some sort of a Fascist leader” … where the heck does this guy get off?
Another grim comedian: Glenn Beck.
smarterthanmost
Posted July 25, 2008 at 8:35 pm | Permalink
Apophis: A teacher with little credibility. Would rather toe the union line than think for himself.
…………….maybe “little credibility” to the CONS here, but in the community of my profession, you would be surprised of my status. As for the assertion that I “toe the union line than think for himself”……again a matter of opinion. Who knows, I may one of the people actually setting policy for the union(s).
I openly admit that I loathe the reichwing and will freely hurl insults at each and everyone. It is my due after these last 7 1/2 years of national disgrace!
“The fact that we were knee deep in making our family business successful helped also when we saw how the tax structure favored those who only set and watched.”
Huh?
For such a “busy little worker bee” you sure have ample time for posting here germie!
THAT’S because you get other people to work for you and consider you are doing them a favor.
While YOU reap the rewards.
I took exactly the opposite political journey from you. I was a staunchly conservative kid.
Then I met people like you. This whole “Let’s you go make some money for me and I’ll throw ya a scrap!” was a no go for me.
Alliance Defense Fund attorneys filed suit Wednesday after Wayne State University officials in Michigan refused to allow a pro-life student group, WSU Students for Life, the same access to funding and facilities that other groups have. Student council members called the scheduled campus pro-life event inappropriate and offensive, besides having religious content, and denied funding, exhibiting blatant viewpoint discrimination in an institution of supposed academic freedom.
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The death of a newborn baby boy found inside a Chicago, IL vehicle after a woman apparently gave herself an abortion has been ruled a homicide. The boy was pronounced dead at the scene, and an autopsy Sunday showed he died of asphyxia.
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Katherine Gunther, 36, of Lebanon, IN pierced her left foot with a sword while performing a Wiccan good luck ritual at Oak Hill Cemetery. Being in the cemetery during the full moon, even to give thanks [to ???] for a run of good luck, is trespassing, although the witch was not charged after hospital treatment.
“…a woman apparently gave herself an abortion…”
Which is the goal of illegal abortion advocates such as “Parkay”
Asphyxia…meaning that becuase the child’s umbilical cord was cut, that the fetus died. Heaven forbid the fetus have the cord wrapped around its neck and die- like my daughter almost did during birth. A self abortion. God, we can’t go back there. NEVER.
Pay attention folks, that is what Parkay and his ilk wants. Jailing women or letting them die…which very well could have happened to this woman.
Sniff…nothing about me newbie?
TOPEKA — Billionaire oilman T. Boone Pickens will bring his new energy plan to Kansas on Wednesday with a town hall meeting in Topeka.
Pickens is scheduled to have the meeting at Kansas Expocentre. It’s free and open to the public, but only 400 people will be allowed in.
Doors will open at 2:30 p.m., and the event is expected to run from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m.
Recently, Pickens has swamped the Internet and television commercials with his proposal to eliminate U.S. dependence on foreign oil by substituting wind-generated electricity for natural gas-generated electricity and then using the natural gas to replace gasoline for vehicles.
okobserver posted July 25, 2008 at 6:03 pm
“Hank I think puts in what he does because you frequently post opinions he doesn’t feel are valid.”
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Hank Price seems to believe that posting lies, like his 6:23 am post re NASA, and non-scientific nonsense, like Monckton, proves that the AGW debate is not over.
What Hank is actually doing is proving that the AGW debate IS over.
Thank you, Hank.
The Computer Climate Models cosmos and his alarmists so heavily depend on for prediction are inaccurate. Even cosmos states they are inaccurate.
Then why do the alarmist make such claims about global warming from these inaccurate computer climate models?
Heck, they don’t even have all the data sets in them and the IPCC references state that they don’t.
How can anyone claim events will happen when their basic model is inaccurate.
Global Warming is a political ploy and agenda driven.
Real science doesn’t need hordes of GORACLE cheerleading propagandists like cosmos.
It is junk science and political activism.
cosmos is not a scientist.
‘Trans-fats banned in California ‘
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7526624.stm
“A review by the New England Journal of Medicine in 2006 concluded that there was a strong connection between the consumption of trans-fats and coronary heart disease. It found they boosted “bad” cholesterol levels in the body.
The review said that eliminating artificial trans-fats from the food supply could prevent between six and 19% of heart attacks and related deaths each year.”
More at link.
This one came through the wire this evening. I’m posting it for Boxlicker; it’ll save him the trouble of recycling more BarackObamaSlanderSpam, much less from having to defend what he posts.
“THE OBAMA DEATH LIST
The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to Barack HUSSEIN Obama during his time inside the United States. Read the list and judge for yourself…
SARAH BERKLEY – Author of “The Jihad at the Ballot Box” – a book examining Obama’s relationship with radical Islam. Died in a mysterious car crash in 2003.
RUSSELL MCDOUGAL – Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2007. McDougal was known to hold sensitive information about meetings Barack Obama had with arms smugglers. His wife was murdered March 2006 after he went public with his initial reports. His father died July 8, 2006 four hours after McDougal presented his findings on the Savage Nation. Suffered administrative retaliation after reporting discussions by jihadist groups concerning Obama to his superiors.
RODRIGO VILLALOPEZ, a television news camera man who shot the footage of Obama describing small town voters as “bitter” and “clinging to their guns during the primary season.
BRIAN GORING – A defense attorney for Obama patron Antoin Rezko during his trial for extortion and bribery. Died of apparent “natural causes.”
MERCEDES HUGLEY, one of Obama’s many white, female conquests while at Harvard. Filed sexual assault charges against Obama for date rape in 1990. Because “date rape” was not considered a crime like it is today, she ended up dropping the charges. Two years later, she was found dead of an apparent cocaine overdose.
TAMIKA HILL – A former secretary for Obama’s office in Chicago was murdered July 6, 2005 at a rib shack in the south side. Hill had spoken off the record with a reporter from the Chicago Sun Times about meetings Obama had with black militants in the city. She was murdered before she could ever be properly interviewed.
HASAD AL SHAREEZ – FBI informant. Reported to his handler in January 2001 that he had a tape about of a person named simply “B. Hussein” meeting with 9/11 hijacker Mohatma Atta in Prague. Was found shot in the basement of a mosque in Dearborn, MI in October, 2001.
DARSANO RAHARDJO – Childhood classmate of Barack Obama when he attended a madrassa in Indonesia. Was found with his head cut off in a Jakarta alley way in 1970. Many children at the school attributed Rahardjo’s murder to the young Barack Obama. It was likely done as an initiation ritual, since Islam demands that a boy spill another’s blood before the age of ten to prove their loyalty to Allah.
REVEREND DAVID MANNING – Former head of the Trinity Baptist Church in Chicago. Was murdered during the apparent robbery of a catfish restaurant in 1972. Shortly afterwards, Rev. Jeremiah Wright took over as head of Trinity and a many parishoners (who later left the church) suspected Wright in having a hand in Reverend Manning’s death. Decades later, Manning’s son JAMAL MANNING was found dead of an apparent crack overdose in 2004. It was rumored he was going to bring evidence of Wright’s complicity in his father’s death. His testimony was timed to coincide with Obama’s first senate race.
CHRISTOPHER HARGROVE, A former lover of Larry Sinclair. Found dead in a hotel room of apparent auto-erotic asphyxiation in January 2001. Was said to have been enraged when he found out that Sinclair had cheated on Jackson with Obama in the back of a limousine. To get revenge, Jackson planned to release digital pictures Sinclair had taken of the encounter on the Internet.
PAUL ROTHCHILD – Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Washington DC in 2003. A “friend and trusted advisor” to senatorial candidate Barack Obama. Dead of an apparent suicide.
CURTIS “POOKIE” JACKSON – Chicago drug dealer. Was the subject of a police investigation in which he was suspected of funneling money to Obama’s many various community projects. Killed in 1998 in an apparent gang murder.
HARVEY KENYON – Head of Obama’s senatorial security team in Chicago. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside of Grant Park in 2005. Kenyon’s son said his father was building a dossier on Obama. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house
SHEILA BAUGH – A Washington DC madame. Died from a gunshot wound. Reported to have a black book of people containing names of influential people who visited the prostitutes in her brothel. One of those names was allegedly Barack Obama.
KEYSHAWN “SPOON” CALWORTH – Was found dead of an apparent heroin overdose May 18, 1997. Was reported to have ties to Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
LAWSHAWNA MARTIN- 26 year old mother of five, a Cabrini Green resident with a history of substance abuse. Told two of her co-workers at the Blue Peppermint Gentleman’s Club that she would have to quit work because she was pregnant again. Strongly implied that the “baby daddy” was Barack Obama. The next week, she was reported missing. No body was ever recovered, but Lawshana has not resurfaced since making those remarks.
BILL FERGUSON- Senior aide to Barack Obama. Found dead of an apparent heart attack.
GANDY BAUGH – Attorney for Obama friend Antonin Rezko died by falling out an eightieth story window of the Hancock Tower, January, 2003. His client was a convicted Chinese spy.”
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As others have noted, almost no one on the list actually exists, and at least one of them–Gandy Baugh–was also on the “Clinton Death List” perpetrated by Wingnuts back in the 1990’s. I love this comment in particular:
“Wow, so Obama is actually a bisexual, cokefiend, jihadist, evil genius super villain who controls a massive criminal organization and is able to arrange flawless “accidents” for anyone who annoys him, and yet remain a respectable and popular public figure? Like the Black Lex Luthor or something? Well then, I’m definitely voting for him. Unlike the current evil overlords, Obama is at least competent.”
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/10015.html
Calling you Wingnuts “zombies” does a disservice to the undead. And for a bunch of anti-environmentalists, you sure have a thing for recycling.
‘Is climate scepticism the new flat Earth theory?‘
http://www.newscientist.com/blog/environment/2008/07/now-will-you-publish-my-paper-showing.html?DCMP=ILC-rhts&nsref=ts10_bar
H/T to http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/07/monckton_and_the_aps.php
‘Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ believes that scientists worldwide, since the 1800’s, are guilty of a huge global conspiracy to falsify the CO2 data.
‘Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ posted July 12, 2008 at 3:40 am
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-710-2/#comment-382388
“The only thing that is happening at these sample stations that read nearly identical co2 levels is that they are calibrated as non-empirical samples.
In other words, they are submitted(sic) as bona fide samples the calibration gas, plus some imaginary weasel factors that the alarmist have dreamed up.
Instead of using actual data from actual sites where human lives, the alarmists have purified and indemnified virginal co2 levels literally out of thin air.”
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Some examples of data that multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ believes are just the “calibration gas, plus some imaginary weasel factors that the alarmist have dreamed up“.
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/contents.htm
Real science doesn’t need hordes of GORACLE cheerleading propagandists like cosmos.
It is junk science and political activism.
cosmos is not a scientist.
Linda,
To be honest, I really wasn’t trying to talk to you about guns. I was merely exploiting the post you made and using it to mock the things some posters here say about guns and school.
Sorry.
Again, some examples of data that multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ believes are just the “calibration gas, plus some imaginary weasel factors that the alarmist have dreamed up“.
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/contents.htm
Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ only has his old, Industrial Hygiene engineering degree.
And his very obvious hatred of carbon taxes, and Al Gore.
The Computer Climate Models cosmos and his alarmists so heavily depend on for prediction are inaccurate. Even cosmos states they are inaccurate.
Then why do the alarmist make such claims about global warming from these inaccurate computer climate models?
Heck, they don’t even have all the data sets in them and the IPCC references state that they don’t.
How can anyone claim events will happen when their basic model is inaccurate.
Global Warming is a political ploy and agenda driven.