Open thread 7/22

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  1. HLP
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    RECENT COOLING AND THE SERIOUS DATA INTEGRITY ISSUE

    If they can’t get the past right, how can they get the future right?

    All the data sources have updated now for June. NOAA GHCN data was a clear outlier. NOAA called this the eighth warmest June on record for the globe in the 129 years since records began in 1880 with a positive anomaly of 0.5C (0.9F) for the month. The University of Alabama, Huntsville MSU satellite based global assessment reported the this June was the the 9th coldest in the 30 years of satellite record keeping (base period 1979-1998) with a value of -0.11C (-0.19F). The other NASA satellite source, RSS had June as the 13th coldest out of the last 30 years. Hadley came in today with their CRUV3 data update. They also were in disagreement with the satellite data sets with +0.316C, the 10th warmest June.

    However both the Hadley and MSU do show a downtrend since 2002 of 0.15 to 0.2C with a rather strong negative correlation (r = - 0.44 with Hadley) with CO2 which increased 3.5% over the period.

  2. JMWalker
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:15 am | Permalink

    ‘mornin’, Hank. Buy yourself a mug: http://www.stupid.com/fun/GLOB.html

  3. JWink
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    Yesterday evening, about 7 PM, I took a walk through the Delano area of west Wichita, around the traffic circle in front of Hatman Jack’s retail store, around Lawrence-Dumont Stadium (no baseball game) and Ice Sports across Maple.

    I thought perhaps I hadn’t got the word that we should flee Wichita. There was absolutely no automobile traffic, no speeders with cell phones, no racing pickups with loud mufflers, no sirens from emergency vehicles.

    It was quieter than 7 AM on a Sunday morning which is occasionally broken by the Sunday EAGLE delivery people or preachers hurrying to unlock their churches.

    NO TRAFFIC ON A NORMAL MONDAY EVENING. Was their a good show on TV? Was a big sale going on somewhere else in town?

    Was it global warming effecting life in Wichita … after all it was close to 100 degrees yesterday afternoon.

    OR IS THE HIGH PRICE OF GASOLINE ACTUALLY TAKING HOLD?

  4. RedWhiteNBlue
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    Everything you believe in very passionately is a LIE. Religion, politics- every popularized group thought. If you didn’t invent it, it’s been created to control you. To divide you. The masonic motto is “divide and conquer.” The word “illuminati” means illumined: bright. Smart. One that can see in the dark, like an owl; one that has knowledge that the profane (you) don’t have. (See the back of the dollar bill.) The people in charge of the world are evil, inbred, psychopathic, control freaks that instigate fake wars throughout centuries to profit, exterminate and keep the masses in a dumbed-down, confused state. In virtually every major “news” event, there exists a completely hidden agenda behind what was told to you. From JFK to the moon landings to 9/11 to Charles Manson to the Virginia Tech shootings to the Columbine massacre to the “education system” to the air you breathe to the food you eat, to the vaccinations you receive to the “founding fathers” to the “constitution” to global warming. That’s the big one. The government is using “global warming” to gradually remove your freedoms and eventually form a one world government. Originally they were going to use a fake alien threat which Reagan talked about and that the C.I.A. promotes through science fiction, military manufactured flying saucers and government conducted “alien” abductions. That’s what “The War of the Worlds” was about. To test the publics reaction. They’ve opted instead for environmental guilt and worship of “mother earth.” And it’s working.

  5. Mary_Caruso
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:58 am | Permalink

    You know, the drug Haldol does wonders for delusional and paranoid thinking.

  6. Mary_Caruso
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    You’re making me nervous, RWB…you’re spend too much time on this “joke”….please tell me you’re not really for real.

  7. outlander
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    Who is nuttier? A true conspiracy wacko or a someone with nothing better to do than pretending to be a conspiracy wacko, in this case OD’d on Red Bull?

    Perhaps RedWhiteNBlue would like to take a stab at that one.

  8. Mary_Caruso
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    I owe..I owe…it’s off to work I go…

  9. RedWhiteNBlue
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Global warming is a lie from the pits of hell.

    satan want man to beleive that mankind has caused all these blatant signs of the times.

    This way, humans will not be alert to the signs that Jesus warned us about and thus will not be about the business of being ready.

    Instead of these many catastrophes alerting us to His soon return, mankind will just start thinking “green” and focusing on saving the planet.

    This planet will be mellt with fervent heat and God Himself will refurbish it.

    Global warming is solely to take the focus off the fact that Jesus will soon return!

    If the theory of global warming had not been advanced, mankind would be in awe trying to figure out what is happening. Then, the Bible could explain the truth.

    It is just like evolution, anything to distract humans from God and His signs to us.

  10. Raptor
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    sounds like someone is running for president of the tin hat society….

  11. Raptor
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    correction, tin FOIL hat society..

    sorry

  12. Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    The most important decision shall be on Jesus. I’m here to share with you the smart ways to trade r =. R = is only going up or down.

  13. RedWhiteNBlue
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    So what a piece of ice fell into the water. You don’t think this ever happened before the Devil created the fairy tail religion of global warming? Don’t you people that think this garbage (that’s right I called it garbage) is real have Faith in our King, the Lord of Lords who controls Nature?
    Do you not understand that this is all predestined and there is an appointed time for all things?

    Just wait until these knuckle heads see what God can really do with the sun. For in the Trib 1/3 of the earth will be scorched by the sun and you know what, the sun will be cut in half during this period. Wow half the energy of the sun that we feel today burning the planet up. Man made my rear end!

    Oh ye of little faith, I think everyone needs to go read Mathew Chapter 8 and ponder what Christ is telling us. For he is in total control, you are free from fear mongering people that control the media. Stop putting your faith in man for he is controlled by the Prince of the Air and will fail you repeatedly. You need you wake up and understand that the Lord of All has ultimate authority over nature!

  14. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    BlueJay, it’s past dawn……where is the war?

  15. Anon1
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Is Comcare aware that RWNB is off his meds and has been for days?

  16. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Hello BLueJay???

    Dang, I even packed a lunch for the “war”. Oh well…

  17. RedWhiteNBlue
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    There are four main religions in this country that are engaged in a holy war against Christianity.

    The number one religion, The Abortion Charismatics.The abortion religion in truth has as its foundation the worshipping of anti-submission to men. These death Stalinists use accusations of oppression as their guardian while marching on, putting the sword to the enemy, the trespassing fetus. Conversly, The Bible advises us to choose life and states that those who side with death are with the devil.

    Religion number two, The Orthodox Homosexuals. The homosexual hit squad, they worship immoral sex and preach its acceptance with a formidable vigor. The religion of orgasms, just as long as you partake with someone of the same gender.

    Religion number three, The Pentecostal Environmentalists. They worship myths and have as their god mother nature. This includes the global warming cash cow. They worship animals, the same animals God instructed us to subdue in Genesis. They worship the earth, the same earth God advises us in the Bible not to love due to the fact that it is fallen and ruled by Satan.

    And the forth religion, The United Church of Envy. The religion of envy has as its decree welfare, social programs of all kinds, and higher taxes. It wishes to crucify anyone who is successful. The wealth of others is condemned. They fiercely seek conversion, not conversion of souls…conversion of other people?s money - to themselves. This faction is represented by Poverty Pastors from all status levels in society.

    The Mega Church of Liberalism houses all these religions. They are extremely tolerant of any religion so long as its not that of the true God. Their enemy is not Satan as in Christianity, but their common enemy is in fact Christ. Hence the unity among the various religions.Their strategy is to incrementally replace Christianity with their false gods and religions of idolatry. At the same time they are attempting to diminish the credibility of God of the Bible and of Christianity.

  18. gster
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    RWB- Wouldn’t you feel more comfortable at Guantanamo? I’m sure they could fine you a place with no problem!

  19. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    BlueJay
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:25 am | Permalink
    A dead link is the best ya got Hank?

    Comes the dawn, the war is on.
    ——
    Were’s the war BlueJay/JR/Rimel???? Or did you fail to show up……again?

  20. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Hank, BlueJay thinks I am you. Sorry you got drug into his little spat.

  21. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    “RedWhiteNBlue” –

    In case you’re Raptured, can I have your stuff?

    I don’t see the satire. “RedWhiteNBlue” seems to sound like most of the evangelical wingnuts that frequent this forum, only moreso.

  22. Raptor
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    I can’t find satire in that either…just a bunch of nonsensical words thrown together. Like the first line of his first post:

    “Everything you believe in very passionately is a LIE. ”

    So, let’s see…he is obviously believing passionately in all this whatever. Therefore it is a lie.

    Hmmmmm…..tin foil hat anyone?

  23. Heckler
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    Boortz

    THIS IS WHY OBAMA NEEDS A SCRIPT

    Last night Obama had to field an off-the-cuff question from ABC News: “If you had it to do over again, knowing what you know now, would you support the surge?”

    Well .. there was a small problem. This was not a question that Barack’s handlers had prepared him for. He had no script. He had to ad lib, and for Obama that’s not good. Sit down folks. Here is Barack’s answer. See if you can make any sense at all out of this. Remember, this is the man who wants to be our Commander in Chief responding to a question dealing with military matters. So … we at the Nuze are now proud to present Obama’s answer to the difficult question “If you had to do it over again, knowing what you know now, would you support the surge:”

    “No, because keep in mind that question, you wouldn’t … but keep in mind that kind of hypothetical is very difficult to know hindsight is 20-20 … later … but I think that what I’m absolutely convinced of is that at that time we had to change the political debate because the view of the Bush administration at that time was one that I just disagreed with.”

    Wow! Now that’s just amazing! What off-the-cuff eloquence! This guy is really sharp. Now we all know why Barack Obama would still vote against the surge … the troop surge that worked.

    Lordy, folks. We have to get over this mass hysteria and start to get serious about selecting our next president. This is just getting ridiculouser and ridiculouser.

    http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

  24. Pleefer
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    RWNB,

    I agree with your first comment on all points. But it’s the religion thing that adds even more “confusion” to this entire agenda of the NWO. Hitler used Romans 13, much as these so-called preachers are doing now (Google, “clergy response teams”), to control Germany. I feel that the Bible has been confounded and rewritten by man so much that we can have zero idea what was being said or what what was supposed to be said, but ommited by priests. These monks that “translated” the original texts were under a vow of silence and each were working on only a portion of the book. So even the Bible has been compartmentalized. The King James AUTHORIZED Version, is just that…what King James authorized all of us to read. We’ll never know what truth’s lay hidden, locked in some room in the Vatican.

    But for me, religion has everything to do with the crappy state of the world as does all the rest of the evil.

    But what you are saying about hidden and evil agenda’s of our illustrious leaders…I agree with. Those who scoff and ridicule are the swine onto which you cast pearls.

    Truth is ugly.

  25. HLP
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Good morning ANTI!

    I thought that he thinks I’m you.

    Mr Rimel is harmless. If I didn’t think he was full of crap I would take steps to protect myself. He’s threatened to ‘destroy me’. Implied that he was going to ‘kill me’. He’s said that if wishes were bullets I’d be dead.

    Evidently, there are no standards for discourse on the BLOG. If you are a liberal!

    No, I’m afraid J R is little more than a frustrated little ‘Walter Mitty’ nitwit. He lives in an imaginary world. Dawn is when ever he imagines it to be.

    Keep your head low and your powder dry, Walter Mitty Jr. is coming!

  26. outlander
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Pleef: Didn’t you give us a deliberate clue yesterday that you were the puppetmaster behind RWNB’s rantings?

  27. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    “Heckler” –

    The problem with you CONs’ “The Surge has worked!” meme is that you and John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) don’t seem to have any idea what “the Surge” was supposed to work for.

    This is the difference between tactics and strategy. Yup, as a tactic, American troops have prevailed, more or less. But to what end?

    George WMD Bush and McSame both said they’d remove US troops for Iraq if they asked us to. Iraq’s president has asked us to. But that screws up the Neo-CON wet dream for a hundred year occupation of Iraq and all that oil!

    Meanwhile, if the “worldwide Islamo-Fascist conspiracy of terror” is who we’re after, maybe American forces should, y’know, go after ‘em where they are instead of where they were, don’tcha think?

    “The Surge worked” so we need to keep “surging” for a hundred years?! That’s as if, after D-Day, the Allies decided to camp out on Normandy Beach for a hundred years rather than carry the war to Berlin.

  28. RightAngle
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    JMWalker
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:15 am | Permalink
    ‘mornin’, Hank. Buy yourself a mug: http://www.stupid.com/fun/GLOB.html
    ============================================
    WALKER, ACCORDING TO THE LINK YOU ARE TO BUY IT FOR HANK.

    It’s a mug with a message. It comes in a nice box, so you can give them to your environ-MENTAL friends!”

    Think of all the people in your life who might give YOU this mug. Give it to them first and beat them to the punch!

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    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:00 am | Permalink

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  30. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Evidently, there are no standards for discourse on the BLOG. If you are a liberal!

    No, I’m afraid J R is little more than a frustrated little ‘Walter Mitty’ nitwit. He lives in an imaginary world. Dawn is when ever he imagines it to be.

    Keep your head low and your powder dry, Walter Mitty Jr. is coming!
    —–
    They mice are fun to paw at from time to time though. :)

  31. GMC70
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    This interesting exchange yesterday:

    Regular
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 8:11 pm | Permalink
    Oh your right Chas, I’m a member of the U.S. wing of the Elite Guard Stahleindringlingen.

    We have members who are judges, FBI, local law enforcement, clergy, teachers, firemen, court house workers, military, para military, survivalists, explosive experts, constructions, engineers and all sorts of occupation.

    We quietly dwell among you probing for weaknesses. Our Dutch brothers in South Africa have been busy preparing vessels of all kinds and fixating on the global gold market.

    We have been selectively buying up old missile silos, camp grounds, farms and bunkers.

    Soon, our Argentinian Aryan Jugendkämpfer will work their way up the coast line swapping arms.

    We intend on taking it back.

    We are here.

    ( )

    Chas
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 8:21 pm | Permalink
    Regular — I dont recall anybody saying YOU were part of any fringe group… What IS your problem??
    ——–

    No, Chas, you didn’t. Of course, you didn’t name anyone. Neither did you support your accusation of these “you know who you are” members of fring groups with any evidence whatsoever.

    You “refuse” to do those things because you CANNOT do those things. You have no names, because you have no evidence. You simply sling sh** at random, and then deny any responsibility for same.

    You’re a liar. And a coward.

    Man up, Chas.

    Coward.

  32. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Wow. Just wow.

    Hee hee heeeeeee…. I think the church of homosexuality is having GREAT success. Seems like people dont like “dont ask dont tell” anymore.

    http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?date=2008/07/21/1

    And this? heheheheh!

    “Religion number two, The Orthodox Homosexuals. The homosexual hit squad, they worship immoral sex and preach its acceptance with a formidable vigor. The religion of orgasms, just as long as you partake with someone of the same gender.”

    Actually, when I can stop laughing long enough, I think this is pretty true. But, as the theologian Nathan the Great always says, “let’s break it down”.

    “Religion number two, The Orthodox Homosexuals.”

    Actually, should be Unorthodox, but hey, who’d counting! Orthodoxy is sooooo, like, last century.

    “The homosexual hit squad, they worship immoral sex and preach its acceptance with a formidable vigor.”

    Heheheh. The more vigorous, the better! Glad you find it formidable. So do I most of the time!

    “The religion of orgasms, just as long as you partake with someone of the same gender.”

    This is tricky. Women worship the “religion of orgasms”, uh, not so much. They are waaaaay into the “religion of cuddlin’ and kissin’”. Anything else is BONUS! It’s straight guys who worship in the religion of orgasms. It is, in some mystical way, how they seem to keep score. Uh, so to speak.

    And… the unorthodox homosexuals, and I believe it’s true of the orthodox as well, dont REQUIRE those orgasms to be with the same gender. Worshiping alone, but not in silence, is an art form unto itself. And.. we welcome bi folks as well as the transgendered. But then, that’s just us and our church. OUR doors are open to all. Uh, so to speak!

    But thanks for playing RWB. Very good observations from the outside.

    IF you are on the outside…

  33. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Osama bin Laden’s driver is now being put on trial. He received harsh interrogation, AKA waterboarding (formerly known has “Chinese water torture”). Interestingly, even if he is found to be not guilty, he can be held so long as the U.S. engages in its “War on Terror”.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92768069

    Just pointing out that our truth, is much stranger than our satire. And on that point, I have it from a usually reliable source that:
    RWNB=MH

    Whoever s/he is, I hope s/he keeps it up. His/her posts are hysterical.

    http://www.godspottery.com/ - a similar satire…

  34. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    I think this got lost in the shuffle. It’s pretty profound how much people NOW want to get rid of DADT.

    And can hate amendments and their repeal be far behind? Let’s hope not.

    “The times, they are a chaaaaangin’”

  35. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    “http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?date=2008/07/21/1

    Opps, forgot the repost of the link.

    Sigh. I’m hot and tired and weak from digging taters and onions. The most perfect little red and Yukon gold taters you’ve ever seen. Their future includes a heavy cream sauce with some fresh peas.

    Oh, and tater salad with the fresh onions. Perhaps some homegrown fried chicken and sliced tomatoes and cukes.

    Wish you were here. Our church picnics are something to behold….

  36. Pleefer
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    Outlander, I was dropping my 2 cents worth yesterday. I didn’t know I was perpetuating anything. But Master of Puppets was the best album Metallica has ever done.

    What does Fred Phelps think of the Church of The Homosexual?

  37. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    God gmc, you and chas really need to get a room.

    I’m thinking your constant outbursts are taking on a Tourette’s like quality….

  38. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    “You “refuse” to do those things because you CANNOT do those things. You have no names, because you have no evidence. You simply sling sh** at random, and then deny any responsibility for same.

    “You’re a liar. And a coward.

    “Man up, Chas.

    “Coward.”
    **********

    Of course, Chas cannot do this. We need to keep beating this dead horse, because of what exactly?

  39. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    “What does Fred Phelps think of the Church of The Homosexual?”

    Undoubtably, he thinks the same thing as terry and joe.

    And almost eighty percent of kansas voters.

    Kansas… as bigoted as you think.

  40. Pleefer
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    I’d like to attend the orgasm church, where is it?

  41. Pleefer
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Kansas… as bigoted as you think.

    Got that right.

  42. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    What does Fred Phelps think of the Church of The Homosexual?

    —-

    He is a “closet” member of the church.

  43. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Pleefer
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:23 am | Permalink
    I’d like to attend the orgasm church, where is it?

    It’s a great place, I was there last Wednesday. The food is a bit gamy though. It is an in and out kind of place.

  44. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    In terms of precident, the military was able to achieve racial integration long before the rest of the culture did. The military tends to set the stage for what is coming to the rest of our society - which is kind of strange, but true, it seems. And because of that, I say, repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”.

  45. Political_mama
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Sista KFG, speak for yourself woman! I SO worship at the Altar of the BIG O!! Yes Yes YEEEEEES!

    That’s what is wrong with these fundies ya know, they’d be so much better off if theyd GET off once in awhile.

    And I agree, I don’t see the satire.

  46. Anon1
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    You know, GMC, if you would just drop it, the rest of us would be able to have discussions without having to scroll over 4700 posts of you and Chas going back and forth over the same thing for the 5th day in a row.

    Hey, maybe we can ask WEBlog to set up a blog just for GMC and Chas to yell at each other?

  47. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Hee hee heeeeeee Pmom! I didnt say I didnt enjoy attending the Church of the Big O! I’m just noting that most of the “sistas” in my church feel just as spiritual at the church of the Cuddle and Kiss!

    In fact, I frequently hear them calling Jesus’ name and screaming for GOD!

    Hee hee hee heeeeeee….

  48. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Good observation Steven.

    “I’d like to attend the orgasm church, where is it?”

    Uh Pleef? If you cant find it, I’m not sure I can help you… The directions vary so much.

  49. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Still chuckling at Pmom’s post. Just wait until yer my age girlie. The Church of the Cuddle and Kiss has a much older membership….

    And as the old bull said to the young bull, “let’s walk down the hill and f@#k ‘em all!”

  50. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    “StevenEDavis” claims –

    “…I have it from a usually reliable source that:
    RWNB=MH”

    I wish.

    I could write a book and start a cult if I could create the voices “RedWhiteNBlue” hears in his head.

    The First Holy Tabernacle of Monkeyhawk and Discount House of Worship! (Although I might want to merge it with “ksfarmgrrl’s” Unorthodox Church of Homosexuality, just for the potluck suppers.)

  51. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Maybe if neither Chas nor GMC can let this drop both could go back to various definitions of STFU. I’ve at least had several giggles from those! Who knows there could be a book deal and royalties… Would it be on the history shelves since we’d all be learning the customs of various locales and groups?

  52. TheBorgHunter
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Back to a little more sane conversation here. I think that it’s pathetic that someone like Osama’s driver can get the rights and privileges of a U.S. citizen. I don’t think I have ever seen such a quick trial and decision in any other court case, not even McVeigh. How can anyone believe that Osama would have a driver that was not loyal to him and not be a part of his madness.

    As for Osama, he is DEAD. It has been so obvious. The media has been playing old videos of him and putting nothing but liberal talking points in his mouth. All you hear is what they say the translation says. He was too arrogant to agree with any American, he hated ALL Americans.

  53. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    heheheh. I wonder why the California Dairy Cows dont use THAT joke?

  54. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    hee hee heee MonkeyHawk.

    “(Although I might want to merge it with “ksfarmgrrl’s” Unorthodox Church of Homosexuality, just for the potluck suppers.)”

    Gives a whole new meaning to “holy rollers”, no?

  55. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Honestly, MonkeyHawk, you’re NOT RedWhiteNBlue? Well, I was sooo sure. You’ve always done a great job with hangin’ words together and back at the start of RedWhiteNBlue’s posts you could mouse over the nic and the link was to your blogspot.

  56. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    “The food is a bit gamy though.”

    That’s no doubt because anti only dines alone…

  57. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    “ksfarmgrrl” –

    Like you, I’m not much of a baker, but I inherited a recipe for dinner rolls that’s phenomenal. I still can’t make ‘em the way my Mom made ‘em, but people love them. Even the batches I consider to be failures. My friends now refer to them as “Failure Rolls,” since they’re still really good. Just not like Mom made ‘em.

    Perhaps they can become the “Host” for our rituals.

  58. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Here’s a good deal for all of us. Since we all think some of the posts here are totally off in some left field beyond our ability to play, how ’bout if we all look at those as satire. No matter what the poster intended, if we think it’s really “out there” we laugh. Maybe that means we quit poking fun (or worse!) at one another and concentrate on the ideas and opinions. Maybe it means nothing more than we laugh more often.

    I have loved RedWhiteNBlue’s posts! And even more I’ve laughed — both at the posts and the people who didn’t see as satire. Now I’m laughing even harder because it might be a serious poster and the whole joke is on me!

  59. Anon1
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Somehow, nothing that mom or grandma makes is EVER as good when you make it yourself, I have found. My grandmother has this phenomenal Hungarian breakfast casserole that she makes ONLY on christmas day - and she has to make four pans of it and there is NEVER any leftovers. She gave me the recipe years ago, but no matter how many times I try to make it, it is never the same as when she does it. Same goes for her Turkey gravy - which I also have the recipe to, and also cannot repeat no matter how much I try.

  60. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    The “ONLY on christmas day,” might have something to do with why it’s so spectacular.

    I’m not a cook and shouldn’t even join a conversation where real cooks are talking but I do make one dish that my family and friends beg for. I’ve found one of the secrets is to make it seldom and keep them wantin’.

  61. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink
    “The food is a bit gamy though.”

    That’s no doubt because anti only dines alone…
    —–
    I always order diner for two. I am truly sorry your marriage failed and you decided to turn gay. If you weren’t such an old battle axe maybe someone would invite you.

  62. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    dinner

  63. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    “Perhaps they can become the “Host” for our rituals.”

    I’ll bring the sand plum and choke cherry wine!

    Although, I’m partial also to a good Ruby Port.

    With a fine cuban cigar….

    And the Peyote they use in the Native American Synod!

  64. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    Well hell, Linda, DISH on that dish, girl!

  65. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    “lindainks55″ says –

    “…back at the start of RedWhiteNBlue’s posts you could mouse over the nic and the link was to your blogspot.”

    Really?

    Which thread was that?

    I clicked “RedWhiteNBlue” early on and was connected to “KansasMeadowlark” and later to one of those snake-handling cults.

    Thanks for the flowers for “stringing words together,” but even I could not come up with, “I can sum up evolution in three words: Evolution is a lie.”

    I hope it’s satire. But I have a sneaking suspicion ol’ “RedWhiteNBlue” is workin’ the swing shift at Spangle’s or somewhere.

  66. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    anti obviously worships at the church of Ron White. He/she is a living example that “you cant fix stupid”.

  67. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    RWB makes me wonder if parkay has a grandson. Or a grandfather….

  68. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Hee hee heeee MonkeyHawk. I have chef “Rhodes” do most of my baking…

  69. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:12 am | Permalink
    anti obviously worships at the church of Ron White. He/she is a living example that “you cant fix stupid”.
    ——
    (puts iced beverage down)……BUUUURRRRRRP!!!!!

  70. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Lets improve our gay/straight relations KFC, gimmie a hug darlin’!

  71. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Oh well, it sure won’t be the first time the joke is on me! In fact, I get to laugh at my antics more than most. Not funny to anyone else but I work on the ‘laugh to keep from crying’ theory. Most people my age have learned so much more…

    Well MonkeyHawk, it was maybe late last week? I don’t know which thread. Regular pointed it out or I would have missed it. The link wasn’t to Meadowlark it was directly to MonkeyHawk Blog Spot.

    Farmgrrl, when we all get together for a “feed” I’ll bring that dish.

  72. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    STFU = Same Tired Foolishness Unending…

    my contribution…

  73. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    But but but Steven, where did it come from? Which part of the world, which group of people?? Gotta have the history lesson behind the meaning!

  74. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Shave That Funky Uni-brow

  75. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    My STFU is from Romania

  76. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Was it a small group of bloggers from a medium sized town in a small state in the center of a big country who were responsible for that “Same Tired Foolishness Unending”?

  77. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    “Anon1″ shares –

    “My grandmother has this phenomenal Hungarian breakfast casserole that she makes ONLY on christmas day…”

    Is it called “strada?” (Or “strata?” I’m unsure about the spelling.)

    My Mom used to make it for Christmas breakfast. Eggs and cheese and ham or sausage…other stuff. I have the recipe, but can’t make it either.

    I suspect my Mom left something out, just so hers would always be better.

    She had a record for doing that.

    My fraternal grandmother was a teetotaler, Women’s Christian Temperance League, Carry Nation was her girlhood heroine. Mom had a recipe for Rum Cream Pie she served for Christmas Dinner dessert.

    Now, most of the alcohol (if not all) cooks out when you make the cream pie filling, but when Grandmother ate three pieces and asked for the recipe, Mom didn’t have the courage to tell her to include the cup or so of RUM! in the mix.

    And for several years, Grandmother would muse that “mine just doesn’t taste as good as yours!”

    ;^)

  78. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Speaking of hate amendments, sorry folks, but. . .it’s baaaaack! :(

    http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/7138/

    One tiny good thing to come out of it (sorta):
    Over the July 4 weekend, the Sierra Vista Herald reported that Bee had lost the endorsement of former Rep. Jim Kolbe, who held the seat for 22 years before retiring in 2007. Kolbe had been serving as an honorary chairman of Bee’s campaign, providing an important local endorsement as well as support with fundraising.

    Kolbe did not provide specific reasons for his break with the Bee campaign, announcing simply: “I will not be actively campaigning for Bee.” Bee’s campaign said Kolbe withdrew his support for “personal reasons,” but did not elaborate further.

    The Herald speculates that Kolbe’s decision may be related to Bee’s recent state Senate vote in support of a statewide referendum on a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Bee’s vote on June 27 broke a deadlock in the Senate and ensured that the marriage amendment would appear on the ballot this November. At the time of his retirement, Kolbe was the only openly gay Republican in Congress.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/07/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4237361.shtml

    And, btw, it wasn’t just a “Senate vote”–Tim Bee is Senate president–he forced the vote.

    So, being as optimistic as I can, one hopes the good sense of AZ voters will prevail again and, in the meantime, Bee will have to deal with the anamosity of the Republican who used represent the district for 22 years! :)

  79. annie_moose
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J__T2dvaWww

    and u shall receive

  80. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Was it a small group of bloggers from a medium sized town in a small state in the center of a big country who were responsible for that “Same Tired Foolishness Unending”?
    *****
    Nope, no special origin, just me feeling exhausted with the whole deal.
    *****
    RWNB is real??? OMG is all I can say. Will wonders never cease?

  81. GMC70
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    More evidence Obama is a lightweight? An empty suit?

    The vaunted middle east trip is nothing other than a campaign commercial, including what Andrea Mitchell called “fake interviews.” This from a candidate who incredibly and quite presumptuously is apparantly engaging in what can be fairly called negotiations with foreign governments.

    A quote:

    Let me just say something about the message management. He didn’t have reporters with him, he didn’t have a press pool, he didn’t do a press conference while he was on the ground in either Afghanistan or Iraq. What you’re seeing is not reporters brought in. You’re seeing selected pictures taken by the military, questions by the military, and what some would call fake interviews, because they’re not interviews from a journalist. So, there’s a real press issue here. Politically it’s smart as can be. But we’ve not seen a presidential candidate do this, in my recollection, ever before.

    -Andrea Mitchell, on Hardball.

    http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/andrea-obama-trip-what-some-would-call-fake-interviews.html?q=blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/07/21/andrea-obama-trip-what-some-would-call-fake-interviews

    More illusion from the boy wonder.

  82. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    KFC, gimmie a hug darlin’!

    Have you hugged your multinational corporation today?

  83. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    yes…and she was greasy…

  84. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    More evidence Obama is a lightweight? An empty suit?

    No, and no. Just evidence that his team has learned too well from Bush’s people. That, and, the “free speech” zone incident.

    But, as I noted elsewhere, you can’t stage-manage foreign leaders–they will say what they say. I would suggest reading the foreign press online to get a sense of things (and wave hello to the NSA while you’re at it!).

  85. Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Toooo funny Annie!! ROFL!!

  86. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the flowers for “stringing words together,” but even I could not come up with, “I can sum up evolution in three words: Evolution is a lie.”
    **********

    Is anyone else trying to imagine what RWNB’s life-story is? It’s gotta be fascinating…

  87. GMC70
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

    It’s a beautiful thing. I like it.

    Just STFU, to all of you .

    That is, of course, Spend Time Feeling Uppity, of course. From my second cousin, twice removed, deep in the heart of swamp country. In the desert.

    :-)

  88. Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    “….what some would call fake interviews, because they’re not interviews from a journalist.”

    But, did Andrea Mitchell call them FAKE inerviews… Is she a part of “some”??

  89. RedWhiteNBlue
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Jesus isnt funny, his crucifying wasnt funny but these sick homo freaks made millions from his blood and agony.they are the same as nazi concentration camp gards and worse than saddan hussein but he was executed.

  90. HLP
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    I am a little confused by the people that want to ‘repeal’ DADT. What do you think would happen?

    We’d go back to the old days of the UCMJ. Gay people would have to lie to get in the military and if found out they would be discharged.

    Repealing DADT is not the answer. The UCMJ needs to be ammended to make homosexuallity legal.

  91. outlander
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Yes. Of course RWNB is real. As real as any who post here. Except maybe Steven Davis and Mary Caruso. Probably a few more.

    But there are no rules that say you have to believe what you write in this anonymous wasteland of bullsh*t and opinion.

    So rant away RWNB. It’s a free country. But I have him on “ignore”.

  92. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Obama’s media team was watching Hardball, too:

    Speaking at a press conference in Amman, Obama reiterated his belief that Afghanistan, where he began his tour over the weekend, should be the “central front” of the US’s so-called “war on terror”.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/07/200872214452817567.html

  93. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    . . .either that, or Andrea Mitchell got it wrong.

  94. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Repealing DADT is not the answer. The UCMJ needs to be ammended to make homosexuallity legal.

    Yeah, going back to the pre-’93 crap definitely isn’t the idea.

  95. RedWhiteNBlue
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    A satanic cult (Illuminism) is undermining our family identity to render us isolated, childless, sex-obsessed, dysfunctional, and docile.

    I am referring to the Masonic Rothschild-Rockefeller cult-cartel that runs Europe and America and is behind Communism and Feminism. Destroying marriage and family was a plank in their Communist Manifesto (1848) and now is part of their satanic New World Order.

    We don’t recognize that society is becoming gay because we think of homosexuality in terms of same-sex attraction. If we redefine it as “inability to bond with a member of the opposite sex for purposes of procreation,” the gay trend is clear.

    The American marriage rate has dropped almost 50% since 1970. Thirty seven percent of American children do not live with both biological parents, the highest percentage among Western nations, compared to 9% in 1965.

    Almost 40% of children were born out of wedlock in 2005 compared to 8% in 1965.

    Only one-in-four households consist of married couples with children, compared to two-in-four in 1960.

    “The United States has the weakest families in the Western world because we have the highest divorce rate and the highest rate of solo parenting,” says Rutgers Sociology Professor David Popenoe.

    A defining characteristic of homosexuality is sexual promiscuity. Since media induced “sexual liberation,” society has become obsessed with sex and all human relations have been degraded. (See my “Is this Gay Behavior Sick?” and “Playboy and the (Homo) Sexual Revolution.”

    Now the educational system is actually promoting sex to children. Where I live, a father complained that a public health teacher told his 12-year-old daughter’s class to have sex at age 13. They were taught about flavored condoms and shown graphic pictures that appaulled the children.

    This action exposes the public school system for what it has become: an instrument of mass corruption, indoctrination and child abuse. With 13-year-olds told to have sex, is it any wonder they are inviting adult predators to their homes? (See “NBC Dateline: To Catch a Predator”) How long will it be before pedophilia is legalized?

    A strong marriage is the foundation of a family. Girls today will reach marital age feeling jaded and abused, and possibly already will have a child. Compare this to just 50-years-ago when sex was consecrated for marriage and family.

    Schools are actually teaching children to adopt the gay lifestyle and experiment with gay sex. Courts are upholding the right of schools to debauch children over their parents’ objections.

  96. annie_moose
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    hey rwb,
    I know your busy with posting on the blog and saving the world in general. But have you had a chance to watch “generation kill” it’s a new miniseries on HBO.

  97. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    “Spend Time Feeling Uppity” - we may have a winner! and it seems especially apropos [oops, please excuse that snooty French word] given how superior “those libs” think they are!

    RWNB,
    Agree: Jesus is not funny, BUT DUDE, you are!

  98. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    RWB, tell me:

    Did you, by any chance, think the Landover Baptist Church site was for real?

    You got me wondering now.

  99. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    “Repealing DADT is not the answer. The UCMJ needs to be ammended to make homosexuallity legal.”

    Thank you, Hank. You are absolutely (not just merely) correct.

  100. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    . . .but then I read something like this, and conclude, yes, this is satire:

    With 13-year-olds told to have sex, is it any wonder they are inviting adult predators to their homes? (See “NBC Dateline: To Catch a Predator”)

  101. Heckler
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    linda

    The thread has been deleted.

    Regular
    Posted July 18, 2008 at 11:34 am | Permalink
    Of course, that 11:28 racist diatribe was by none other than our failed radio talk show host, MonkeyHawk.

    Don’t believe me? Check out the link in his name.

    http://monkeyhawk.blogspot.com/

  102. Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Ditto Steven!! :-)

  103. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Annie, that chubby car salesman needs more customers. With enough customers those gyrations would cause all that extra weight to just melt off!

    Thanks for the laugh! I’m laughing at everything now. And I’m not even sure any longer what posts are funny…

  104. Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    LOL Linda!!

  105. LLTVET
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    But pedophilia is being condoned, in some certain places in Texas. But you have to be a good Mormon first.

  106. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Heheheheheh!

    “the gay trend is clear.

    The American marriage rate has dropped almost 50% since 1970. Thirty seven percent of American children do not live with both biological parents, the highest percentage among Western nations, compared to 9% in 1965.

    Almost 40% of children were born out of wedlock in 2005 compared to 8% in 1965.

    Only one-in-four households consist of married couples with children, compared to two-in-four in 1960.

    “The United States has the weakest families in the Western world because we have the highest divorce rate and the highest rate of solo parenting,” says Rutgers Sociology Professor David Popenoe.”

    Somebody needs to send this to values boy. QUICKLY!

    He still thinks gay marriage, even though it’s only legal in one state, is destroying the family and straight marriage.

    What a maroon…

  107. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    “Jesus isnt funny, his crucifying wasnt funny but these sick homo freaks made millions from his blood and agony.”

    Damn. Either I’m not a sick enough freak, or someone else is getting my share of the millions.

  108. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Why any gay person would want to join the military is simply beyond me anyway.

    It’s like black folks joining the Klan.

    WTF?

  109. gster
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    RWB- Fred Phelps wants YOU! Are you the heir apparent?

  110. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    I bet andrea mitchell knows a thing or two about “fake” interviews…

    She was up to her ass in the Plame outing, and then said she must have been drunk when she admitted it on Imus.

    The fact that she is even being considered for MTP is just nuts. But it gives you a real reality check on where the MSM really is.

  111. LLTVET
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    The US divorce rate is higher than the godless liberal Scandanavians, Decadant Dutch and Buddhist Japanese.

  112. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    RWB = values boy?

    Heheheheh.

    Naw. RWB is smarter and funnier….

  113. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    “…but these sick homo freaks made millions from his blood and agony.”

    RWNB being “real” opens up all kinds of possibilities. KGF, do you suppose he meant the Catholic Church in the above obersvation. It could be “your $” is going toward another gold floor at the Vatican.

  114. Political_mama
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Alright you guys, I’ve been reading this from work and unable to respond you’re making me laugh my hiney off. Now that I’m home- ACK that mad tv link was F”N HYSTERICAL.

    “Thirty seven percent of American children do not live with both biological parents, the highest percentage among Western nations, compared to 9% in 1965.”

    And yet, we’re the least liberal nation in the Industrialized world. Hmm. Perhaps that’s your problem RWB. Feminism is the cure. Supporting Gay Families is the cure.

    “Compare this to just 50-years-ago when sex was consecrated for marriage and family.”

    No, you mean when girls who got pregnant were forced to move to their ‘aunt’s’ house for the summer, had their children stripped from them or worse, obtained an illegal and unsafe abortion. Lets not forget the shotgun marriage where women by the truckloads were tied to worthless abusers for life.

    As far as pedophilia- we’ve got that going on in the Mormon FLDS, the Catholic priesthood, and if they aren’t conservative I don’t know who is.

  115. Pleefer
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    I’m beginning to think that RWNB is some strawman. He’s marginalizing and making legitimate facts completely silly, leveling this down to a heaven/hell silliness. He presents a Mona Lisa of a number of serious facts and then paints a moustache on it by throwing all this rediculous and sadly, incitable hate crap.

    Much more than satire.

  116. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Heh Steven, you may be right, but I think there’s nothing funny about the catholic church.

    Except in an unintential way, of course!

    And of course, pedophiles do not equal gay, and gay doesnt equal pedophiles.

    Those priests who abuse children are pedophiles.

  117. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Pleef–

    No sarcasm intended: I wasn’t those posts too closely.

    Where were RWB’s “serious facts”?

  118. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and I noticed the other day that just like the kansas hate amendment field day, the California hate amendment campaign’s biggest funder is… wait for it… the catholic church, through it’s knights of columbus organization.

    And no, I’m not going to provide a link. Let’s see the catholicophiles use the google.

    I know where I found that info.

    Do you?

    Terry, joe, phred and the pope.

    What a nice quartet of hate.

  119. Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    When I was in high school, (North High, ‘69) and we had swimming classes in P. E., the boys were FORCED to swim Nekkid… The girls got swim suits. I never understood that then, and still dont today!!

    When I was even younger, and just started swimming lessons, in the basement of the OLD Downtown YMCA, before the one on Market, boys swimming was ALSO done Nekkid… Older boys and Men, wore suits… Never understood that either….

    I wonder…. Could it have had ANYthing to do with pedophilia?? Sometimes, thinking back on those years, it sort of gives me Chills…. Yikes!!

  120. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    I deep going back and forth on this idea of RWNB being real. Did anyone else see his/her labored justification of missionary position heterosexual sex? S/He referred to male genitals as a “stick and berries”. Could that be real??? Surely not, I contend.

    Thanks, Heckler, for sharing that link. I believe I may have to bookmark that one.

  121. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    christian “heaven/hell” is silliness.

    Everyone knows Austin, Texas is heaven, and everywhere else is HELL!

  122. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Those priests who abuse children are pedophiles.

    . . .and I have to wonder, how many of them were altar boys, if you know what I’m saying.

    They say that (sometimes) the abused become the abusers.

  123. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Heheheh. All that nekkidness at the YMCA? Surely not… the young men’s christian association? Say it isnt so….

    Steven, I’ve heard reg say “sticks and berries” before. And unfortunately, I’ve heard some out here say “twigs and berries”.

    Big eye roll…

  124. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    “Those priests who abuse children are pedophiles.”

    Yes, of course, but a fact such as that, may seriuosly confuse both RWNB and Brent Castillio - those moral brothers-in-arms.

  125. Political_mama
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    I’m telling you I vote for real on RWB. Like Phelps or one of the fundies- they are just like that for real!

  126. Posted July 22, 2008 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Now that I think of it, Boys P.E. was always conducted in a pseudo-military style… We would all get dressed up in the exact same gym suits… sleeveless white undershirts and khaki shorts… with WOOL socks, and high top “tenny” shoes… We would assemble in the Gym, and the “Coach” would Yell… ahem, YELL — TENNNNNNHUT!!!

    And we would all snap to attention…. Roll call was taken…. Coach yelling again: DRESS RIGHT….. DRESS!!! RIGHT FACE…. LEFT FACE…. AT EASE!!!

    Then, instructions for the rest of the period… followed by the beloved calesthentics portion…. And before dismissal to the showers(Nekkid, of course)

    TENNNNNNNNHUT!!! DRESS RIGHT…. DRESS!!!

    FALL OUT!!

  127. HLP
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Your welcome, Steven.

  128. Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Something tells me, that back then, we were merely being primed and made ready to be “Drafted” when we got out of school… and we would at least be familiar with hearing ORDERS barked at us, from half-crazed drill Sgts., that we would mentally connect to our old “school coaches”.

  129. Nathaniel
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Let me see here…

    Chas routinely makes bogus claims which are obviously off the wall or wrong. Sometimes he makes other claims which are not so obvious, but still questionable.

    He will never back up his claims and when caught in saying something obviously wrong, he will never admit to it and will only twist his way out of it.

    Yet, those of us who merely want Chas to own up to his being wrong on something are the ones beating a dead horse or are annoying?

    Yeah right.

    Why don’t those of you one the left spend half as much time getting onto Chas for the either outright stupid things he says or the ourtirhgt vlugar things he says rather than those of us who try to get him to own up to it?

    The last time Steven got onto Chas for calling someone a Bitch was the only time I think I can ever say Chas ever came close to saying he was wrong (even though he didn’t really, he spent more time justifying what he said, never apologized, but did say it was “over the line”).

    Perhaps if those of you on the left would stop protecting Chas when he says his stupid things or calls people such vulgar names he would stop and then those of us who simply want to hold him accountable wouldn’t have a dead horse to beat and annoy you in the process.

  130. Rage
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Chas routinely makes bogus claims which are obviously off the wall or wrong. Sometimes he makes other claims which are not so obvious, but still questionable.

    Nathan, I missed the original “bogus claim” (something about people here being members of some group or something?), but I think the overwhelming sentiment here is boredom.

    We just don’t care.

  131. fleettwood
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    “Those priests who abuse children are pedophiles”

    If the children were boys, they would be more correctly called homosexual pedophiles.

  132. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    does anyone else think we need to call the waaaaaaambulance for nathan?

  133. lindainks55
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Well, we can go back to talking about cooking, food, gardening… The election is a done deal!

    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks

  134. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    “Those priests who abuse children are pedophiles”

    If the children were girls, they would be more correctly called heterosexual pedophiles.

    and your point would be?

    big eye roll…

  135. annie_moose
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-v0VHX2Ghc

    rapture humor,
    wasn’t the rapture invented in the 70’s

  136. Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Toooo funny Linda!!! GOOD one!!

  137. Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Rage — Email me, and I will gladly share with you the allegedly “bogus” claim I made the other day, that has all the rightie tidies in an uproar… LOL BUT, I wont post it here again!!

  138. Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    No Annie… actually quite a while before the 70’s

  139. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Nathan,

    Given that you don’t seem to be an especailly good at observing human behavior, rightly, or wrongly - and I will say I think it is wrong - Chas does not do apologies. He would be better off if he could, but he obviously can’t, or more likely, won’t.

    So, my question is: What profits a man, if he gripes about Chas, every day, but loses his soul? I confess, I have been reading too much RWNB today. It just might be time for a break. Before I go, though, isn’t there a time when we let stuff go - Chas not apologizing as an example. I believe you and GMC could post about that for an eternity and nothing would change.
    Was it A.A. that said doing the same thing, but expecting different results, was the definition of insanity? Resting my case, counselor.

    Thanks for the laughs today, folks. I have enjoyed this thread waaaaayyyyy too much.

  140. Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    BTW, Annie…. there are a number of different versions of the “rapture” as well…

    There is the PRE-milennial Rapture… Where the Rapture happens before what is called the “Great Tribulation”

    There is the Mid-Trib Rapture… Where the Rapture happens 3.5 years INTO the Great Tribulation….

    There is the Post-milennial Rapture…. Where the Rapture happens AFTER the Great Tribulation….

    And there is the A-milennial Rapture… Where there is no Great Tribulation… Just the Rapture…

    Personally, I have always leaned towards being a Pan-milennialist….

  141. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    I see the gay bull horn has been tooting away over the lunch hour, joined by the lib cheerleader Chas. I see you haven’t decided to be a man, probably because you have many “mommy” figures codling you always.

  142. Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Steven, I dont do apologies unless apologies are necessary… When I post something that others disagree with, and demand apologies, you damned right I dont/wont apologize… I mean, geez, nobody is demanding RWNB apologize for any of that crap!! And, hey, I even posted numerous links to what I was saying… LOL

  143. cosmos_originally
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Hank Price posted July 22, 2008 at 6:09 am

    If they can’t get the past right, how can they get the future right?
    —————

    Hank, the temperature data sets use different reference periods — before comparing them, you have to align them.

    Hadley omits the arctic region.

    Satellites estimate the temperature of the lower troposphere, which is different than the surface.

    ‘Global Temperature from GISS, NCDC, HadCRU’
    http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/giss-ncdc-hadcru

    ‘What’s Up With That?’
    http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/whats-up-with-that

    And CO2 is not the only forcing on Earth’s climate.

  144. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Chas, non of those “links” had anything relevant to your accusations of posters on this blog.

  145. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Cosmos, I drove my hydrocarbon eco-vehicle today. Also, I have resisted bringing an end to the life force of C02 spewing critters….for now.

    Your partner in the fight against C02,

    ANTI

  146. Political_mama
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Actually fleets enema, that’s not true. There are many men who identify as heterosexual fully as adults who have abused same sex boys. You assume that since they abuse one sex that is what they prefer, but rather, sometimes it is merely opportunity.

  147. Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Not worth any further commentary, ANTI… just not worth it… how sad!! Sad indeed!!

  148. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Yes Chas, it is sad at your age you still have no principles….

  149. annie_moose
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Well I have to toil in the human induced summer temps.
    Wingnuts try not to join any of those fringe groups out there. And you know who you are too!.

  150. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    BlueJay? It is WAY WAY after dawn….No Show J R….

  151. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    OK, Miss Moose! But they always have snappy uniforms! Hard to resist!

  152. Nathaniel
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Steven,

    If it is my observation that Chas doesn’t ever admit he is wrong and will never apologize and you even agree with me, how then do you start off saying that I am wrong in observing behavior here and then agree with my observations????

    My point is that if the posters here who have no problem asking GMC70 to stop would spend half that amount of time asking Chas to own up, he probably would.

    It took one poster, you, to get Chas close to owning up to what he does here.

    I simply wonder if the same posters who get annoyed with GMC70 would show that same annoyance towards Chas for what he posted to start it, perhaps Chas might own up to it and it would be over.

    Maybe not.

    So is it any less insane for those of you on the left to go after those on the right for going after Chas?

    Why is it that the left never shows the same outrage over KansasNative, Maggotpunk, CapnAmerica, and others for constantly bringing up the same things against my father and I when it comes to our faith?

    My point is this, when you on the left get annoyed with us on the right for going after Chas ad nauseum it is quite clear to me that you are merely being Hypocrites and protecting your side, i.e. Chas.

    You never seem to have a problem when your side does the same thing to ours ad nauseum.

  153. RedWhiteNBlue
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    The devil and his ilk have turned this world into a cess pool. It is sin which cause men to trade their eternal Souls for a brief transitory pleasure. Nothing in this world is real. Nor will it last. Even if you own it and it is yours when your flesh suit stops working you can not take it with you.

    The hatred you feel should be directed towards the devil. It is his hatred of you and your loved ones that has caused so much pain and suffering.

    JESUS CHRIST our KING loves you more then you could ever imagine. JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY truth in this world. JESUS CHRIST is the only way home out of this world. JESUS CHRIST will not abandon nor forsake you. Even if the whole world turns aganist you JESUS CHRIST will not.

    I thank ALMIGHTY GOD in HEAVEN for HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. No one else in this world ever gave a crap about me except for my Savior JESUS CHRIST. Only the love of ALMIGHTY GOD through HIS SON JESUS CHRIST gives me a reason to hang on till HIS soon return. I hate what this world has become. I hate the evil people who think they have the right to enslave the rest of us for their evil pleasures. This world is not my home. HEAVEN is my home and I want to go home ASAP!

  154. Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

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  155. ANTI
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Pan-milennialist- Through the Great Tribulation?
    Is that correct Chas? I am serious.

  156. RedWhiteNBlue
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    The Rapture is real and it will happen one day. No one knows when. Read Revelations. The Rapture is true. It is written! The words in the Bible that are in red are Jesus’ words. They are the words that he spoke! People witnessed him speaking these words. Jesus speaks of the Rapture in Revelations. How can