There’s almost no point in talking about global warming any longer because global hysteria has long since torched reason - we are now watching the scientific equivalent of the Salem witch trials, where “what we say is true” is more important than “what we know is true.”
So last week, we got to watch the spectacle of the EPA fanning the flames of fear while Al Gore fiddled like Nero as he performed his “Requiem for Fossil Fuels” to an audience of true believers. Gore announced his “plan” to save America from herself by making the nation’s electricity production “carbon free” within 10 years at a cost of a tidy $1.5 trillion to $3 trillion.
As the AP reports it, Gore’s “man on the moon” plan would mean “a significant shift in where the U.S. gets its power. In 2005, coal supplied slightly more than half the nation’s 3.7 billion kilowatt hours of electricity. Nuclear power accounted for 21 percent, natural gas 15 percent and renewable sources, including wind and solar, about 8.6 percent.” Under the Gore scenario, coal goes the way of whale blubber, and is replaced by a nifty mix of nuclear power, solar, wind and, er, um, “clean coal.”
Of course, even Gore admits that “clean coal does not exist right now,” but not to worry - the Nobel Prize-winning pied piper of peace has a plan: Tax ‘em till they drop. Of course, he means the carbon emissions will be dropping thanks to the huge penalty to be paid for “unclean coal,” but just maybe it is our standard of living that will see the bigger decline. Only time will tell.
In the meantime, the Environmental Protection Agency issued a 284-page report that is a modern version of the plagues and scourges unleashed by Moses on ancient Egypt. If you’re afraid of it, the EPA’s got it - disease, insects, foul water, drought, kidney stones (or was that in another hysterical report?), fire, flooding, hurricanes, pollution, food poisoning.
No wonder people are panicking about global warming even though the weather isn’t getting warmer any longer. What? Of course, it’s getting warmer. But no it isn’t. Despite the endless allure of “what we say is true,” sometimes we are faced with the brutal honesty of “what we know is true” and have to deal with it.
Of course, scientists who have jumped on the global warming bandwagon are reluctant to acknowledge that global temperatures have been steady or declining for the past 10 years. It’s embarrassing, to say the least, to have to admit that the hysteria you promoted in the name of “science” was all just an expensive sham. Yes, it was indeed getting warmer in the decades immediately preceding 1998, but so what? It still wasn’t as warm as it had been on the planet 1,000 years ago, long before the Industrial Revolution cursed modern man with cheap power, technological innovation, drastically improved health care, sanitary living conditions, worldwide mobility, and the empowerment of the middle class.
So the question really isn’t whether the earth is getting warmer, but so what if it is? Does anyone really think that mankind is in charge of the planetary climate? There are long-term cycles at work here which are as much beyond our control as the orbit of the Earth around the sun. (OK, folks, let’s all lean north to see if we can straighten this damn planet out - the tilt of 23.44 degrees from the perpendicular may just be what is making us all dizzy!)
The most likely reasons for global warming such as solar variability and geothermal dynamic fluctuation are the very same reasons why temperatures sometimes go down as well as up. You remember the great ice ages, don’t you? But the fact is that scientists don’t know what is going to happen to the temperature 20 years from now anymore than the TV weatherman does.
If they did, then the projections they have been making for the past 20 years would actually be correct, instead of myopically out of whack. We haven’t seen anything like the temperature increase projected, nor has the sea level risen cataclysmically as Al Gore and his cronies have promised.
So the EPA’s report about the devastating effect of global warming on the United States should probably be taken with a grain of salt, or lots of them. Because unlike Lot’s wife, who turned into a pillar of salt when she turned back to see from where she had come, most of us will probably look back in 20 years and see not the rubble of civilization but the ruins of an idea whose time thankfully never came. Requiescat in pacem, global warming
Thanks Hank, if it wasn’t for shills like you then the Arabic nations wouldn’t be so full of American cash. Keep on kissing the monkey even when he throws poo at you.
This weekend, Heath Ledger’s last completed film appearance in “Dark Knight” opened nationwide. I saw it at a Dickinson theatre; between nearly vomiting from the artificially-buttered popcorn, suffering stomach crampage from the same, and enduring mild back pains from an injury 10 days prior, it wasn’t a bad experience.
The Oscar buzz surrounding the late thespian’s performance is warranted. He is stunning. Far from the understated, subtly evocative performances in “Brokeback Mountain” and “Monster’s Ball” - Ledger’s Joker turns the Batman series on its ear.
One image remained with me: The Joker, dressed in a nurse’s uniform, staggers away from the Gotham Hospital, seconds after destroying the place. Given Ledger’s death in less than one year; given the sick, sardonic humor attendant to his performance; this image remained with this viewer. Long after the credits rolled.
And those credits rolled far too long after the opening scene. This freaking film is too freaking long. (Two hours and 45 minutes long, as a matter of fact.)
What a tragedy for a supremely talented young man to die at age 28. Then again, the actor suffered from chronic insomnia. For anyone who doesn’t know what it’s like, I can tell you - it’s insidious agony. This condition usually accompanies opther maladies such as anxiety, depression, sometimes with drug usage.
I began to suffer insomnia 19 years ago. I remember turning to my then-unshakable Catholic faith for assistance. “Jesus…….grant me peace,” I was directed to pray while attempting to fall into peaceful oblivion. Sometimes it worked; sometimes it didn’t.
Thankfully, my brief bout with this condition didn’t worsen; today, I almost never suffer from it. But evidently the Oscar-worthy actor dealt with it - daily. And I really felt for him.
May his gifted, perturbed spirit rest in eternal peace.
The more America moves from biblically morality, the more it comes under the divine curse. The Bible states the blessings God will bring upon the obedient. It also states the curses God will bring upon the disobedient.
For instance, I believe there presently is a divine curse on the White House. Why? Because President George W. Bush placed the Koran in that house’s library…
With much fanfare Mr. Bush announced his placing the Koran in the White House library.
Taking biblical data into consideration, one can conclude that God was very angry at that move. I believe He has brought a curse the White House because of placing the Koran alongside the Bible in the White House library. God cannot tolerate those who place other gods alongside Him.
It was this same Mr. Bush who stated to a Muslim that all roads lead to God. Mr. Bush should know better than that, claiming to be a daily Bible reader.
America is in big trouble at the moment and I think only the truly sincere believers understand that. They are interceding for our nation. But the ungodly are pressing more and more for countenanced evil to be blessed throughout our country.
Modern societies accepted the treasures and the power that science laid in
their laps. But they have not accepted—they have scarcely even heard—its
profounder message: the defining of a new and unique source of truth, and
the demand for a thorough revision of ethical premises… . If he accepts this
message—accepts all it contains—then man must at last wake out of his
millenary dream; and in doing so, wake to his total solitude, his fundamental
isolation. Now does he at last realize that, like a gypsy, he lives on the
boundary of an alien world. A world that is deaf to his music, just as
indifferent to his hopes as it is to his suffering or his crimes.
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A brief comment: In past I’ve worked with people on specifics issues who’d I’d otherwise just as soon punch. At times I held my fire on the other stuff, but in today’s world I don’t think that’s possible or even necessary. Have you seen the ads, e.g., for Al Gore’s organization (http://wecansolveit.org) or AARP’s social security coalition ( dividedwefail.org )?
Agree with us on everything
Or we won’t help with anythng
That kind of attitude
Just makes a split grow wider
If you’re bored and lethargic and thinking of something wise and wonderful to do on such a hot, steamy day like today, here’s an idea:
Make sure you’ve sprayed your home for spiders. Most breeds of spiders aren’t harmful, but the two m/fers that are pack a powerful punch.
I’m pretty sure I was bitten by a black widow 10 days ago, and the ensuing tapestry wasn’t pretty. At first, I and the ER doccie were both perplexed. I hadn’t tripped on anything. I hadn’t heard any discernible “pop” in my lower back. No one hit me, not even the angry, bile-spitting god whom Red, White and Blue(balls) believes in so passionately. In short, I didn’t know what in the f— had happened to cause such agony.
And it hurt like nothing I had ever endured before. It felt like a big ol’ steel plate had been shoved into my back. Nice things like breathing, eyelid-fluttering, trying to arise from my bed so’s I could avoid having an accident and go to the bathroom, anything benign like that caused acute suffering.
And I’m not a good sufferer. There’s a “low pain threshold” and a “high pain threshold”. Big Bertha’s got no pain threshold - not for s–t like this. Somehow, I dragged myself to my car and drove unsteadily to the ER of a certain hospital which incurs the ire of right-to-life advocates nationwide.
After that mirthful ER experience, I’m spewing the “Weasley” appellation, too. ‘Cause the baleful doctor who treated me was worse than the god of the old testament, who was a p–ck. He didn’t seem to have a problem with my request for a two-day scrip of hydrocodone. He wrote it out with alacrity.
But he laid a guilt trip on me so thick ‘n heavy that it made me step out of character and be mean. Real, real mean. His gist was this: “I have back pain too, and I just deal with it,” he snarled. “One days what one has to do.”
Being the nice, compliant, sympathetic person I am, I intially evinced empathy. Then I lost it. “Oh, big whoop, Superman,” I spat. “I’ll bet Lois Lane’s been bowl-legged since 1975.”
Anyway, to make a long story on his shortcomings even shorter, in two days I found a weird, upraised bite on my lower buttcheek that really, REALLY looks like a healed black widow spider bite.
Spray your domiciles now, folks. You don’t want to endure what this chick endured 10 days ago. Because it bit (no pun intended). Big time.
Speaking of creepy sexual innuendo–did you hear the joke McCain told publicly about the ape that beat a woman, raped her repeatedly, and then knocked her into a coma.
Her words upon awakening were, “where’s that marvelous ape?”
Get it? She was raped by an animal but she enjoyed it. Is that a knee-slapper, or what?
This guy is gonna be a great President, just like Bush.
Sheesh, Black&Blue, The Library of Congress houses Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Koran. Is the library cursed, too. What about the bookstores? All cursed?
Once you go down the road of magical thinking… well.. there is no end to the rabbit hole.
And, “panicking over Global Warming”? Nobody is panicking except except you guys who have made it into a phony “liberal vs conservative” wedge issue. I know your side doesn’t have anything else, but sheesh!
I am really sorry, but radical Republicans had their way for eight years and they screwed things up, and everybody knows it.
The Koran or Quran or whatever has the same Abrahamic, single God that the Biblios has. There isn’t a single government on Earth that isn’t ordained by God, not one. Sooo, the Sharia is just as valid in God’s eyes as is the Ten Commandments. Eh? Read Romans 13.
The Evolutionary Origin of Moral Instincts
- Aparthib
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…Moral instinct itself is rooted in the laws of nature (Physics) via the working of the brain. Morality is latent in the laws of nature. It finds expression through the process of evolution…
10. You vigorously deny the existence of God, yet you frequently blame him for everything that is wrong in modern society.
9. You repeatedly insist that man did not, in fact, evolve from an ape. Apes and men both evolved from another species who did not resemble Curious George in any way.
8. You criticize Christians who don’t know their Bible, yet you have never opened any of Darwin’s texts.
7. While all created evidence and reasoning point to a Creator and absolute truth, you prefer to hide behind relativism and a theory of evolution which does not, in fact, describe the creation of the universe at all.
6. You can’t seem to understand the fundamental differences between fundamental Muslims and fundamental Christians (hint: strap-on TNT)
5. You willingly attribute all historical atrocities in Europe to a demographic that contained approximately 100% of Europeans during the period in question.
4. You also like to ignore the beneficial discoveries of the aforementioned demographic.
3. You don’t realize that a closed system can be defined however the observer wants, so you throw out technological phrases to try to ignore the implications of thermodynamics.
2. You accuse Christians of being hateful and you hope that they die.
1. Your biggest complaint is that these typically hopeful and caring people want to share the greatest single thing in their life with you. You’re like an idiot who wipes with winning lottery tickets.
Actually RWB, atheists have higher IQs in general, are better educated, divorce less, have happy well-adjusted children (again in general), and usually report high indices of satisfaction to life, work, and community.
I think you were looking in a mirror when you scribed “dumbass”.
How important it is for you to believe that you are smarter. Its ok, I know you are insecure and really need to see yourself in a superior light. It’s kind of like natural selection: the weaker get extinguished and sometimes you feel like you are being smothered by the SAVED! and need to cry out “TYRRANY OF THE MAJORITY!” and appeal to a Constitution that appeals to an absolute moral law.
The sad thing is, my little atheist friend, is that your contradiction is all too obvious.
Social Darwinism
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Most people associate the phrase “Survival of the Fittest” with Darwin and the theory of evolution. Actually, Darwin didn’t originate nor use that phrase. It was coined by one of the shapers of Social Darwinism.
Social Darwinism is the general term which applies to several different ways in which people (not biologists) tried to apply a distorted and narrow interpretation of the concept of natural selection to human cultural systems. None of these political ideologies is actually any part of evolutionary theory.
One of the ways in which some people tried to apply a social version of natural selection formed part of the framework for the development of Nazism. This view embraced the assumption that the strong were superior, and thus ordained to prevail. Thus, if two countries were to make war on each other, the victor was biologically superior to the loser. It was therefore right and proper for that victor to subjugate or even eliminate the inferior opponent. This concept went hand in hand with the development of the notion of eugenics — not only could you prevail over the unfit by making war on them, but you could improve the breed by applying “enlightened” notions of selection and genetics.
A second way pseudo-evolutionary concepts were applied to human interaction was in the development of cut-throat capitalism in the United States. Here the ideology was that the cream naturally rose to the top; the successful made a lot of money simply because they were superior to the unsuccessful. Those who found themselves in poverty were poor because they were intrinsically inferior. This political philosophy resisted suggestions like universal education, welfare, minimum wage — in short, anything which interfered with the business of the “superior” ascending to the top of the heap and squashing the unfit beneath their expensive shoes.
Atheists have no moral compass so will say anything to deny they’re atheism.
Our liberties are allowing the atheists here to destroy our society. George H.W. Bush was intelligent and thoughtful enough to say that atheists shouldn’t really be citizens. Maybe his son will do something in the time he has left as our President. It could be an executive order that simply outlaws evolution. Something like “every evolutionist is now an enemy of the Republic,” and then explain why.
Even the muslim countries know how to deal with these people(one of the rare things they do right). Why can’t we follow their lead?
I am guessing that RWNB it is an atheist or liberal poster because word search shows a lot of the crap it is posting is on Democratic Underground. It is funny because a lot of the liberals at DU don’t get that it is satire. They think it is real and react, ridiculing the supposed fundamentalist posting it.
But as much as I like to see leftists fooled, I see no real value in it.
If the White House is cursed, what do we do about it? Is simply removing he book enough to lift the curse? Do we need an exorcism performed? Can Pelosi perform it? Or does it require a priest? Holy water? Is a simple prayer enough? Must it be razed to the ground and new temple built upon its ruins>
This is a public building, and if it is your judgement it is fouled.. please explain how we follow up? Enquiring minds want to know. It’s your hypothesis! Have at it….
Top Ten Signs You’re a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
This poster speaks the uncomfortable truth far better than I. A sample:
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In order for “alternate energy” to become feasible, it has to satisfy all of the following criteria:
1. It has to be huge (in terms of both energy and power)
2. It has to be reliable (not intermittent or unschedulable)
3. It has to be concentrated (not diffuse)
4. It has to be possible to utilize it efficiently
5. The capital investment and operating cost to utilize it has to be comparable to existing energy sources (per gigawatt, and per terajoule).
If it fails to satisfy any of those, then it can’t scale enough to make any difference. Solar power fails #3, and currently it also fails #5. (It also partially fails #2, but there are ways to work around that.)
The only sources of energy available to us now that satisfy all five are petroleum, coal, hydro, and nuclear.
. . . . .
The problems facing “alternate energy” are fundamental, deep, and are show-stoppers. They are not things that will be surmounted by one lone incremental improvement in one small area, announced breathlessly by a startup which is trying to drum up funding.
The way you can tell that a fan of “alternate energy” is a religious cultist is to ask them this question: If your preferred alternate source of energy is practical, why isn’t it already in use?
Why not? Because of The Conspiracy™. The big oil companies don’t want it to happen, and have been suppressing all this live-saving green people’s energy all this time for their own nefarious purposes.
As soon as you hear any reference to The Conspiracy™, you know you’re talking to someone who is living in a morality play. That isn’t engineering any more, that’s religion. And while religion is an important part of many people’s lives, it has no place in engineering discussions.
BTW, Chas - how’s that apology going? Or do you have that list of posters and the evidence to support your accusation? I KNOW you don’t have the latter; that leaves only the former for a man of honor.
“The idea that this has been a giveaway to the rich is a figment of the left’s imagination. Taxes paid by millionaire households more than doubled to $274 billion in 2006 from $136 billion in 2003. No President has ever plied more money from the rich than George W. Bush did with his 2003 tax cuts. These tax payments from the rich explain the very rapid reduction in the budget deficit to 1.9% of GDP in 2006 from 3.5% in 2003.”
Mostly all religion’s and for sure, the “Big 3″ are based on Sun worship or sorry, Son worship. Whether or not you accept it. Google “Astro-theology”, watch the movie “Zeitgeist” on youtube for a start. How many Gothic cathedral’s are emblazoned…sorry adorned with signs of the Zodiac? I can think of Chartres right now. The Roman’s took the church using Constantinople as “his” tool.
When will you people wake up? It’s very clear the catastrophes we face are warnings sweeping across America. They’re intensifying and bringing our nation to it’s knees economically. Along with other problems like oil, gas and rising prices, ec cetera.
But, the recent floodings, killer tornados and now the hurricane season is upon us to add to America’s current poised status of total collapse economically.
The most recent example of God’s warnings is California’s March 15th, 2008 Supreme Court decision to allow SAME-SEX-MARRIAGES amongst homosexuals.
God’s response? Send an unprecedented LIGHTNING BOLT SYSTEM from the Pacific Ocean igniting the greatest fire catastrophe in California’s history.
And where are [still today] ALL of the fires? Exactly. In northern California and surrounding the GAY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD: San Francisco.
It’s no accident that on June 24th, 2008 [not even 6 weeks after Calif's Court decision honoring GAYS, March 15, 2008] that 800 lighting bolts struck NORTHERN CALFIFORNIA and ignted an unparalleled fire disaster in the state’s history, to this day still attempting to put all the fires out.
Mercifully, almost no lives were lost since it is not God’s plan to wipe us out, yet. If He had wanted to do that He would have done it awhile back because of America’s wholesale destroying of over 40million babies since 1973’s Roe vs. Wade.
“RedWhiteNBlue
Posted July 21, 2008 at 12:14 pm | Permalink
You are not a Christian for Christians don’t accuse brothers and sisters in Christ of being non-Christian.”
Therefore RWNB you also are not a Christian since you made such an accusation.
A comment by someone who knows from professional experience — received via a reader. The report focuses on Tasmania, which is in roughly the equivalent latitude to Italy. So what is bad in Tasmania will be worse in Britain (for instance). As for Sweden or Canada, stop laughing!
I am one of those people who supply and maintain solar and wind power installations to power electronic systems at remote (unpowered) sites — e.g. two way radios up on mountain tops.
Twenty plus years ago, a couple of us had a good look at the possibility of making a dollar or two out of flogging this emerging technology to the great unwashed. We didn’t bother because it didn’t stack up energy wise or financially. I admit the efficiency of the solar panels us mere mortals can afford has improved a bit since then (at least 8%) but the figures are still similar.
A loose look at the energy required to make the things verses the energy output of them during their average lifetime was not really surprising. The panel would return enough energy in the first year to smelt the aluminum in its frame and its mounting and transport the manufactured panel to us. We could not get energy figures for melting the silicon so the wafers could be grown and then cut up to make the semiconductors but overall it will be high so we guessed that it would take at least 100Kwh . This equates to 3 years output from the panel used up by the time it is delivered on site.
But it doesn’t end there. Over the life of a set of panels the owner will probably need 3 or 4 sets of batteries. These are full of nice things like lead and acid and plastic and are very heavy. Then there is the magic box called the inverter. This is the box that converts the panel power up to the 230 volts mains power that we use. These are full of electronic things that take a lot of energy to make and have a reasonably short life span - say 10 years. You must include the energy costs for making and transporting these items to site in the overall energy that the solar panels must return during their lifetime. A battery pack of say 13kw h weighs in at approximately 500kg. So during the life of a set of panels you are going to have to transport 2 tons of them from (say) Sydney to Hobart and back again. Do the energy calculations on that one considering that the energy output per annum from each panel equates to about 4.5 litres of petrol.
I must qualify the above by saying that in our lovely clean green (work in the tourism industry or starve) state we don’t get a lot of sun for large chunks of the year. When we are working out the energy budget for a solar site we allow an average of 3.5 hrs a day full output from the panels and have battery backup to allow for 14 - 28 days (site dependant) with no output. When the batteries are fully charged you can store no more so you effectively get no output from the panels. Therefore the extra output in summer is not usable unless you seriously upscale the battery capacity. Up in Queensland you can get away with less than half the number of panels for the same load. In drier climates panels seem to last a bit longer as well.
There are some interesting practical considerations that must be considered when using these things. It never ceases to amaze me how many people seem surprised to discover that a solar panel needs to get actual direct sunlight on it to give a worthwhile output. This can be a simple task of (wait for it - shock horror - sit down Rev. Bob in case you have a nasty turn) cutting down the trees to the height of the panels because the sun gets pretty close to the horizon down here in winter. Or if you have built your house on the southern side of a hill or taller building it is even simpler - you need to move the house or increase the number of panels to compensate. An extra $10k - $40k will usually suffice.
In Tasmania more than 50% of houses don’t have a clear enough view north to make solar panels worthwhile and if you elevate them you begin to shadow the house to the south of you. This means you can never optimize the energy return from the panels. And what about our nice green leafy suburbs? When your northern neighbour’s trees get high enough to shade your panels you lose output. Or if a leaf blows onto one of your panels the output goes down. (if you cover approximately 5% of the face of the panel the output will drop to almost zero.) The government will have to bring in draconian chain saw laws and you will have to have a photo license and a chainsaw safe to own one. Panels need to be cleaned regularly. Feathered airfoil excrement is especially effective in stopping them working.
Every time you need to have the system serviced the serviceman will use petrol in his van to get there. This will probably average using the equivalent energy output of one panel for a year for each trip and that does not count the energy required to make the van in the first place.
There is little doubt that in Tassie a solar installation as a collective item over its life is a net energy sink not a source. It is no different financially. My last electricity account for my workshop lists the cost as 18.5c per kwh or 21.4c including supply charge and for this my installation costs can be amortized over a 50 year life span. Over a 20 year life an $800 panel will return me 900kwh or $166.50 worth of electricity. Don’t forget that out of the massive savings you have made there you must buy batteries, inverter, have it installed, pay the interest on the money you borrowed to buy the system and maintain it.
Note that this energy consumption would require 136 panels ($110,000.00), 14 day battery backup $13,500.00 (weight 1.6 tons, life 10 years), three phase inverter $15,000.00 (expected life 5 - 10 years). Interest alone would exceed $1,675.00 for the same period I paid the electricity authority $334.95. (Don’t forget that if the batteries went flat and I had no electricity to run the workshop I would still have to pay my employees so a system failure could wipe me out. I would have to have a generating plant and/or duplicate equipment to allow for that. Even if you quadrupled the energy output from the panels the figures don’t add up.
FINALLY CBS is exonerated for the infamous “wardrobe failure” during a Super Bowl half time show…. Hooooray!!! The Court of appeals said that the FCC had over-reacted in its pursuit and fine of CBS!! The entire “infraction” lasted all of 9/16 of a second!!
The belief that reporters are trying to help Barack Obama win the fall campaign has grown by five percentage points over the past month. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey found that 49% of voters believe most reporters will try to help Obama with their coverage, up from 44% a month ago.
No sh**. In other shocking news: Americans like hamburgers. Wow.
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Also:
WHY would you be against WIND power??
Because it cannot provide a significant source of power. It will always be a seductive gimmick.
Americans, of course, are suckers for seductive gimmicks. They also think of electricity as an energy source. It’s not, of course, it is a way of transporting energy, not energy itself.
But why am I answering you - you don’t even have the guts to do the right thing. I don’t think you’d recognize the right thing if it was standing in front of you, labeled in 20′ neon letters.
that video of hill was great. Shows the faithful for the weirdos they are.
And you realllllllly think it’s so far off base to think RWB’s posts are legit? We’ve got freaks like Parkay and the Phelps and even Phil Kline who post on the board, are you kidding me?
Chas - why am I not surprised that you have no grasp of basics.
Mechanical enegy is converted into electricity. Whether water (in hydroelectrics) drives the turbines which make the conversion, or the turbines are driven by steam (whether the steam is created by fossil fuels or nuclear power makes no difference), it is that mechanical energy which is being converted through turbines into electical energy and then transmitted to where it is used. .
Thus, when you recharge your electric car, you are not saving energy. That energy must be generated. Generating electricity is converting mechanical energy into electrical energy so it can be transmitted to where it is used.
GMC — do you realize that with all of your bitching, and moaning, and arm flailings over what I said about nut fringe groups, that you have not posted ONE WORD here to refute anything I posted??? NOT ONE WORD!! All you have done is bitch, moan, groan, bellyache, and call me names!!
I will ignore your comments, until, or unless you can post ANYTHING that refutes what I have already said…
Just to remind your poor memory… I said from the very start, I am NOT posting nics of people who post here that seem to be part of such groups… Nor will I do so… in spite of your protestations… which are beginning to be boring, as well as irrelevant!!
I said from the very start, I am NOT posting nics of people who post here that seem to be part of such groups… Nor will I do so… in spite of your protestations… which are beginning to be boring, as well as irrelevant!!
You will not, because you cannot. You have no evidence to support your rather wild accusations. Moreover, I need “refute” nothing; YOU have made no case to refute. Moreover, you (either purposefully or ignorantly, and I know which I’m betting on) mischaracterize your original post. No one denies that such nutcases are out there; you, however, accused an unknown number of posters (how “know who they are” - how convenient) as belonging to or identifying with said nutcases.
Yep — those nut fringe posters on this Blog sure do know who they are… Thgat is a fact…
As for electricity… I never said anything about how it is made… YOU, however, said electricty is not energy…. but just a way to transport eneregy…. SO…. What is the energy called, that electricity transports?? You think you can stasy with the subject??
those nut fringe posters on this Blog sure do know who they are… Thgat is a fact…
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Speak freely as a man, flesh and blood, Chas. Who are “these posters”?
Sorry, GMC, I CAN, but I wont… See, IF I did, then you all would just tell me that it doesnt matter, because they are just nics… THEREFORE, I will NOT post the nics… If you accept the existence of the nut fringe groups, then surely YOU are capable of recognizing the garbage they post… You dont, or shouldnt, need me to point out who they are!! DumbAss!!
Well well well…once again the open thread has about as much mature conversation as a 3rd grade recess…”did not” “did so” “did not” “did so” as well as the occasional religious nutcase preaching to himself….
Are there strange things happening in earth’s weather? Yes, and inside the earth as well, with increased seismic activity that spawns eruptions of volcanoes and earthquakes. Does man cause these through global warming? No.
Does man cause these things otherwise? Yes, in my view at least.
Man creates them through rebellion against the Creator of all things. The globalists are doing so today through worship of Planet Earth.
Earth is not God.
Earth worshipers are denying God.
Earth, the un-God, might be in trouble. But God can overcome whatever problems with Global Warming might occur as long as people turn to Him instead of some pagan idea about “Mother Earth.”
The only God involved is GOD!
This is a test, people! Who are you going to worship? God the Creator or one of His creations? If you deny God, your denying the first comndment and have no hope of obaying the other nine and are doomed to Hell.
They arent the 10 suggestions they are the 10 COMANDMENTS.
What part of I COMAND YOU do you not understand?
Any one who gets all worked up about pollution or Global Warming misses the point. Your worshiping erth instead of it’s CREATOR!!
No wondor your doomed.
After The Rapture youll be stuck with this planet and those of us who are SAVED will be looking down on you from HEAVEN and watch you’re agony from on high.
“They’re intensifying and bringing our nation to it’s knees economically. Along with other problems like oil, gas and rising prices, ec cetera.”
That’s precisely what OBL said about his attacks on the US — he knows he cant beat us militarily — but knows how to help put a stranglehold on our economy —- wonder why he doesn’t attack Dubai — in the heart of the Arab / Muslim world and it’s beginning to look like a bigger Las Vegas ….. hmmmm
So we are winning what ever war it is we’re fighting in Iraq — but losing the war on terror ?
Oh where oh where is OBL —- not in Iraq for sure for sure —— lets debate the difference between time horizon and time line again —- what better way to distract the public from the continuing abuses of this administration ——-
sadly — talked to the son of a friend and asked him what he thought of Barak Obama — he said he should disappear — I asked why —- he said because he’s a Muslim I told him it wasn’t true that he never was a Muslim — he said his Sgt’s told him and most of the Army believes that — how sad the cons insist on poisoning the well of democracy time after time —– what happened to term limits?
Speaking of religion —- I have yet to see a picture or story of WPE going to church or McCain for that matter …… whats up with that — too busy not golfing?
McCain === Bush whay does that bother the cons so much ?
RWB is a liberal in conservative clothing. He is so transparent that he doesn’t even reach the level of satire. No one but a liberal could be as stupid as he has shown himself to be.
Don’t be taken in by this idiot or give him any credibility.
“It could be an executive order that simply outlaws evolution.” And have him issue one lowering that pesky gravity constant while he’s at it.
I note that none of the fossil-fuel lovers (!!??) are not mentioning the national security aspects of the call to “transition away from a hydrocarbon economy,” as President Bush put it in Europe. I’d like for America to be free of the entanglements of foreign oil purchases.
I wish billions of our dollars were not going to help pay for the radical religious schools in the Middle East.
If you are ever in the DC area go to Five Guys Hamburgers. Voted the best burger in the DC area 5 years in a row. Almost to big to get your mouth around and delicious. One large order of fries will feel a table of 5 and then some. The day we were there the potatoes were from Bulger, Idaho. Never have had better fries.
The power of Love and the Power of prayer is far stronger then your rebellion and pride. Nothing is impossible with God, and that includes you You will not be punished because God is a hate-monger, but becaues you rejected His only means of reconcillation.
RWNB - didn’t Jesus say He would come like a thief and that nobody will be able to know when? What makes you so special claiming to have such insight when nobody else does?
“If your preferred alternate source of energy is practical, why isn’t it already in use?
“Why not? Because of The Conspiracy™. The big oil companies don’t want it to happen, and have been suppressing all this live-saving green people’s energy all this time for their own nefarious purposes.”
GMC seeks to ridicule all believers of new energy ideas by claiming that they think a “conspiracy” is out to stop them.
I’ve never been able to see the difference between a conspiracy and a business plan.
If your business is to sell oil, why would you do anything that reduce the selling price of that oil?
You wouldn’t. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s a collusion of business interests.
Chas - You made the charge. You cannot support same with either identification of these mystery posters, nor ANY evidence of said allegiance. We both know that you offered a particularly noxious charge - one of blantant racism. You offered nothing in support, instead smearing posters at large.
You screwed up. Again. You cannot support your writing, again.
Man up, Chas. Have the decency to support these charges with evidence. Name names. I triple-dare ya, with a cherry.
All of us here know you can’t. That’s all there is to it. I know it, you know it, readers here know it.
You can make this go away. Support your charges with evidence, or make the appropriate apologies. Be a man, Chas.
GMC what do you call it when Rockefeller bought up all competing oil companies and ran them under the banner of “Standard Oil?” What do you call it when he dumped oil on the market to run new competitors out of business, bought what assets they still had at bankruptcy prices, and then jacked the price of oil back up again?
Capn, when you are done with that dictionary can you loan it to Fox News? They apparently have a problem with education, since they can’t spell it correctly.
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If you are ever in the DC area go to Five Guys Hamburgers. Voted the best burger in the DC area 5 years in a row. Almost to big to get your mouth around and delicious. One large order of fries will feel a table of 5 and then some. The day we were there the potatoes were from Bulger, Idaho. Never have had better fries.
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Sounds like that chain of burger places that disappeared, Fuddruckers. Had giant hamburgers and multi-serve french fries.
Thank you Capn! We have adequate juvenile posters. There is nothing entertaining about the bullying practice of demanding something / anything from another poster. We’re adults. We post what we choose and it stands. Most of us know what we consider silly, thought provoking, interesting, comical (the list is never ending) the first time we read it. By the end of the first day of ridicule I decide the juvenile doing the bullying is far less than the original poster.
When I hear of the Jews are making plans for building the third temple, I get excited. I believe in a pre-tribulation Rapture. So, if I am hear on Earth with the third temple, something has to be wrong with my theories.
When I think about the whole world seeing the return of Jesus, my definition of “soon” moves to 30 years or more. My idea is that the whole world needs to be plugged into Fox news to know when to look for Jesus coming in the sky. I think that we are about 30 years away from every around the world getting cable.
The over the top comments from rwb are reminiscent of history. Remember the Crusades? Thousands killed because “my god is better than yours”.
Religious freedom is one thing, being judgmental about others is out of line. You are getting quite tiresome and annoying with your supriority claims, your judgments and your fanatacism.
Is there no end to the machinations of this administration?
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Bush law chief seeks new Qaeda war declaration
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congress should explicitly declare war against al Qaeda to make clear the United States can detain suspected members as long as the conflict lasts, U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey said on Monday.
Mukasey urged Congress to make the declaration in a package of legislative proposals to establish a legal process for terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo, in response to a Supreme Court ruling last month that detainees had a constitutional right to challenge their detention.
“Religious freedom is one thing, being judgmental about others is out of line.”
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RedWhiteNBlue is the only religious poster I’ve read who doesn’t ridicule individual posters but instead concentrates criticism to opinions and ideals.
And, s/he must not be too outrageous or out of line — there are still some here who can’t delineate the differences between usual posts and satire.
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Posted July 21, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink
Is there no end to the machinations of this administration?
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Bush law chief seeks new Qaeda war declaration
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congress should explicitly declare war against al Qaeda to make clear the United States can detain suspected members as long as the conflict lasts, U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey said on Monday.
Mukasey urged Congress to make the declaration in a package of legislative proposals to establish a legal process for terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo, in response to a Supreme Court ruling last month that detainees had a constitutional right to challenge their detention.
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Patriotic Gore and other global warming mongering
There’s almost no point in talking about global warming any longer because global hysteria has long since torched reason - we are now watching the scientific equivalent of the Salem witch trials, where “what we say is true” is more important than “what we know is true.”
So last week, we got to watch the spectacle of the EPA fanning the flames of fear while Al Gore fiddled like Nero as he performed his “Requiem for Fossil Fuels” to an audience of true believers. Gore announced his “plan” to save America from herself by making the nation’s electricity production “carbon free” within 10 years at a cost of a tidy $1.5 trillion to $3 trillion.
As the AP reports it, Gore’s “man on the moon” plan would mean “a significant shift in where the U.S. gets its power. In 2005, coal supplied slightly more than half the nation’s 3.7 billion kilowatt hours of electricity. Nuclear power accounted for 21 percent, natural gas 15 percent and renewable sources, including wind and solar, about 8.6 percent.” Under the Gore scenario, coal goes the way of whale blubber, and is replaced by a nifty mix of nuclear power, solar, wind and, er, um, “clean coal.”
Of course, even Gore admits that “clean coal does not exist right now,” but not to worry - the Nobel Prize-winning pied piper of peace has a plan: Tax ‘em till they drop. Of course, he means the carbon emissions will be dropping thanks to the huge penalty to be paid for “unclean coal,” but just maybe it is our standard of living that will see the bigger decline. Only time will tell.
In the meantime, the Environmental Protection Agency issued a 284-page report that is a modern version of the plagues and scourges unleashed by Moses on ancient Egypt. If you’re afraid of it, the EPA’s got it - disease, insects, foul water, drought, kidney stones (or was that in another hysterical report?), fire, flooding, hurricanes, pollution, food poisoning.
No wonder people are panicking about global warming even though the weather isn’t getting warmer any longer. What? Of course, it’s getting warmer. But no it isn’t. Despite the endless allure of “what we say is true,” sometimes we are faced with the brutal honesty of “what we know is true” and have to deal with it.
Of course, scientists who have jumped on the global warming bandwagon are reluctant to acknowledge that global temperatures have been steady or declining for the past 10 years. It’s embarrassing, to say the least, to have to admit that the hysteria you promoted in the name of “science” was all just an expensive sham. Yes, it was indeed getting warmer in the decades immediately preceding 1998, but so what? It still wasn’t as warm as it had been on the planet 1,000 years ago, long before the Industrial Revolution cursed modern man with cheap power, technological innovation, drastically improved health care, sanitary living conditions, worldwide mobility, and the empowerment of the middle class.
So the question really isn’t whether the earth is getting warmer, but so what if it is? Does anyone really think that mankind is in charge of the planetary climate? There are long-term cycles at work here which are as much beyond our control as the orbit of the Earth around the sun. (OK, folks, let’s all lean north to see if we can straighten this damn planet out - the tilt of 23.44 degrees from the perpendicular may just be what is making us all dizzy!)
The most likely reasons for global warming such as solar variability and geothermal dynamic fluctuation are the very same reasons why temperatures sometimes go down as well as up. You remember the great ice ages, don’t you? But the fact is that scientists don’t know what is going to happen to the temperature 20 years from now anymore than the TV weatherman does.
If they did, then the projections they have been making for the past 20 years would actually be correct, instead of myopically out of whack. We haven’t seen anything like the temperature increase projected, nor has the sea level risen cataclysmically as Al Gore and his cronies have promised.
So the EPA’s report about the devastating effect of global warming on the United States should probably be taken with a grain of salt, or lots of them. Because unlike Lot’s wife, who turned into a pillar of salt when she turned back to see from where she had come, most of us will probably look back in 20 years and see not the rubble of civilization but the ruins of an idea whose time thankfully never came. Requiescat in pacem, global warming
http://www.dailyinterlake.com/articles/2008/07/20/columns/columns01.txt
Thanks Hank, if it wasn’t for shills like you then the Arabic nations wouldn’t be so full of American cash. Keep on kissing the monkey even when he throws poo at you.
This weekend, Heath Ledger’s last completed film appearance in “Dark Knight” opened nationwide. I saw it at a Dickinson theatre; between nearly vomiting from the artificially-buttered popcorn, suffering stomach crampage from the same, and enduring mild back pains from an injury 10 days prior, it wasn’t a bad experience.
The Oscar buzz surrounding the late thespian’s performance is warranted. He is stunning. Far from the understated, subtly evocative performances in “Brokeback Mountain” and “Monster’s Ball” - Ledger’s Joker turns the Batman series on its ear.
One image remained with me: The Joker, dressed in a nurse’s uniform, staggers away from the Gotham Hospital, seconds after destroying the place. Given Ledger’s death in less than one year; given the sick, sardonic humor attendant to his performance; this image remained with this viewer. Long after the credits rolled.
And those credits rolled far too long after the opening scene. This freaking film is too freaking long. (Two hours and 45 minutes long, as a matter of fact.)
What a tragedy for a supremely talented young man to die at age 28. Then again, the actor suffered from chronic insomnia. For anyone who doesn’t know what it’s like, I can tell you - it’s insidious agony. This condition usually accompanies opther maladies such as anxiety, depression, sometimes with drug usage.
I began to suffer insomnia 19 years ago. I remember turning to my then-unshakable Catholic faith for assistance. “Jesus…….grant me peace,” I was directed to pray while attempting to fall into peaceful oblivion. Sometimes it worked; sometimes it didn’t.
Thankfully, my brief bout with this condition didn’t worsen; today, I almost never suffer from it. But evidently the Oscar-worthy actor dealt with it - daily. And I really felt for him.
May his gifted, perturbed spirit rest in eternal peace.
Crime does not pay … as well as politics.
- Alfred E. Newman
Pregnancy as a Newborn and at Age 100 Possible in 30 Years
more at: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,385962,00.html
I wonder if Medicare will be accepted at the Tiller death barn and crematorium?
Newborn? Isn’t that stretching the age of consent a wee bit?
Maggotpunk posts;
“Keep on kissing the monkey even when he throws poo at you.”
And the biggest poo throwing ‘monkey’ is Algore and his band of taxing hysterics.
Worst President Ever. EVER.
WORST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EVER: McC*nt
No wonder the paranoid CONs are pooping in their panties this morning.
I see Boxlicker the dancing poodle is here to dance for us today.
Dance poodle dance!
Your “sex fantasy grrl” might even watch.
By the way, did you ever let your wife read what you wrote about her?
Coward!
Duh Reguliar, if a test tube can carry a “baby”….extrapolate.
The more America moves from biblically morality, the more it comes under the divine curse. The Bible states the blessings God will bring upon the obedient. It also states the curses God will bring upon the disobedient.
For instance, I believe there presently is a divine curse on the White House. Why? Because President George W. Bush placed the Koran in that house’s library…
With much fanfare Mr. Bush announced his placing the Koran in the White House library.
Taking biblical data into consideration, one can conclude that God was very angry at that move. I believe He has brought a curse the White House because of placing the Koran alongside the Bible in the White House library. God cannot tolerate those who place other gods alongside Him.
It was this same Mr. Bush who stated to a Muslim that all roads lead to God. Mr. Bush should know better than that, claiming to be a daily Bible reader.
America is in big trouble at the moment and I think only the truly sincere believers understand that. They are interceding for our nation. But the ungodly are pressing more and more for countenanced evil to be blessed throughout our country.
Modern societies accepted the treasures and the power that science laid in
their laps. But they have not accepted—they have scarcely even heard—its
profounder message: the defining of a new and unique source of truth, and
the demand for a thorough revision of ethical premises… . If he accepts this
message—accepts all it contains—then man must at last wake out of his
millenary dream; and in doing so, wake to his total solitude, his fundamental
isolation. Now does he at last realize that, like a gypsy, he lives on the
boundary of an alien world. A world that is deaf to his music, just as
indifferent to his hopes as it is to his suffering or his crimes.
Biologist Jacques Monod
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A brief comment: In past I’ve worked with people on specifics issues who’d I’d otherwise just as soon punch. At times I held my fire on the other stuff, but in today’s world I don’t think that’s possible or even necessary. Have you seen the ads, e.g., for Al Gore’s organization (http://wecansolveit.org) or AARP’s social security coalition ( dividedwefail.org )?
Agree with us on everything
Or we won’t help with anythng
That kind of attitude
Just makes a split grow wider
Jello Biafra
“Your “sex fantasy grrl” might even watch.”
Ewwwwwwwwww!
jesus WEPT!
I sure hope you are NOT talking about me. The thought of boxie thinking of me that way is, well, disturbing at best.
Better check to see if I have enough shotgun shells in the gun case…
If you’re bored and lethargic and thinking of something wise and wonderful to do on such a hot, steamy day like today, here’s an idea:
Make sure you’ve sprayed your home for spiders. Most breeds of spiders aren’t harmful, but the two m/fers that are pack a powerful punch.
I’m pretty sure I was bitten by a black widow 10 days ago, and the ensuing tapestry wasn’t pretty. At first, I and the ER doccie were both perplexed. I hadn’t tripped on anything. I hadn’t heard any discernible “pop” in my lower back. No one hit me, not even the angry, bile-spitting god whom Red, White and Blue(balls) believes in so passionately. In short, I didn’t know what in the f— had happened to cause such agony.
And it hurt like nothing I had ever endured before. It felt like a big ol’ steel plate had been shoved into my back. Nice things like breathing, eyelid-fluttering, trying to arise from my bed so’s I could avoid having an accident and go to the bathroom, anything benign like that caused acute suffering.
And I’m not a good sufferer. There’s a “low pain threshold” and a “high pain threshold”. Big Bertha’s got no pain threshold - not for s–t like this. Somehow, I dragged myself to my car and drove unsteadily to the ER of a certain hospital which incurs the ire of right-to-life advocates nationwide.
After that mirthful ER experience, I’m spewing the “Weasley” appellation, too. ‘Cause the baleful doctor who treated me was worse than the god of the old testament, who was a p–ck. He didn’t seem to have a problem with my request for a two-day scrip of hydrocodone. He wrote it out with alacrity.
But he laid a guilt trip on me so thick ‘n heavy that it made me step out of character and be mean. Real, real mean. His gist was this: “I have back pain too, and I just deal with it,” he snarled. “One days what one has to do.”
Being the nice, compliant, sympathetic person I am, I intially evinced empathy. Then I lost it. “Oh, big whoop, Superman,” I spat. “I’ll bet Lois Lane’s been bowl-legged since 1975.”
Anyway, to make a long story on his shortcomings even shorter, in two days I found a weird, upraised bite on my lower buttcheek that really, REALLY looks like a healed black widow spider bite.
Spray your domiciles now, folks. You don’t want to endure what this chick endured 10 days ago. Because it bit (no pun intended). Big time.
Sigh. Now HERE is a woman worthy of fantasy. Be still my heart. But ya know, all the good ones are always taken…
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×3652092
Oooh, don’t talk about shotguns to Boxlick, KSGrrl!
Girls with guns is part of his fantasy . . .
Rachel caught my notice when she subbed for Keith last week.
She’s really GOOD…and edgy as all get out.
Speaking of creepy sexual innuendo–did you hear the joke McCain told publicly about the ape that beat a woman, raped her repeatedly, and then knocked her into a coma.
Her words upon awakening were, “where’s that marvelous ape?”
Get it? She was raped by an animal but she enjoyed it. Is that a knee-slapper, or what?
This guy is gonna be a great President, just like Bush.
“She’s really GOOD…and edgy as all get out.”
Funny, smart (Rhodes Scholar), cute as hell and has no problem with older women.
Sigh. Like I said, the good ones are always taken…
That’s what mcsame gets for hanging out with claytie williams.
“Girls with guns is part of his fantasy . . .”
Heheheheheh.
Rachel would kick his ass so hard he’d be wearing his nuts as earrings.
Sheesh, Black&Blue, The Library of Congress houses Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Koran. Is the library cursed, too. What about the bookstores? All cursed?
Once you go down the road of magical thinking… well.. there is no end to the rabbit hole.
And, “panicking over Global Warming”? Nobody is panicking except except you guys who have made it into a phony “liberal vs conservative” wedge issue. I know your side doesn’t have anything else, but sheesh!
I am really sorry, but radical Republicans had their way for eight years and they screwed things up, and everybody knows it.
That’s what mcsame gets for hanging out with claytie williams.
Ah, yes, Mr. “Lie back and enjoy it.” People like that deserve to try it themselves: maybe a few days in a nice little cell with “Bubba.”
The Koran or Quran or whatever has the same Abrahamic, single God that the Biblios has. There isn’t a single government on Earth that isn’t ordained by God, not one. Sooo, the Sharia is just as valid in God’s eyes as is the Ten Commandments. Eh? Read Romans 13.
Religious nuts are everywhere. AHHHHHH!
Anybody else seen those ads on cable for the “non-circulating Liberian currency?”
It’s a $20 “Silver Leaf Coin-Certificate,” but nine plus eleven equals twenty, so that’s what they have on the back of the bill.
Do the math:
As we all suspected, the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by Liberian Masons, backed by Rudy 9iu11iani and a renegade band of numismatists.
I suspect “Franklin” (who once took Econ 101) has invested heavily in these weird silver bills.
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/aparthib/evolutionary_morality.htm
The Evolutionary Origin of Moral Instincts
- Aparthib
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…Moral instinct itself is rooted in the laws of nature (Physics) via the working of the brain. Morality is latent in the laws of nature. It finds expression through the process of evolution…
Top Ten Signs you’re a dumbass atheist:
10. You vigorously deny the existence of God, yet you frequently blame him for everything that is wrong in modern society.
9. You repeatedly insist that man did not, in fact, evolve from an ape. Apes and men both evolved from another species who did not resemble Curious George in any way.
8. You criticize Christians who don’t know their Bible, yet you have never opened any of Darwin’s texts.
7. While all created evidence and reasoning point to a Creator and absolute truth, you prefer to hide behind relativism and a theory of evolution which does not, in fact, describe the creation of the universe at all.
6. You can’t seem to understand the fundamental differences between fundamental Muslims and fundamental Christians (hint: strap-on TNT)
5. You willingly attribute all historical atrocities in Europe to a demographic that contained approximately 100% of Europeans during the period in question.
4. You also like to ignore the beneficial discoveries of the aforementioned demographic.
3. You don’t realize that a closed system can be defined however the observer wants, so you throw out technological phrases to try to ignore the implications of thermodynamics.
2. You accuse Christians of being hateful and you hope that they die.
1. Your biggest complaint is that these typically hopeful and caring people want to share the greatest single thing in their life with you. You’re like an idiot who wipes with winning lottery tickets.
Actually RWB, atheists have higher IQs in general, are better educated, divorce less, have happy well-adjusted children (again in general), and usually report high indices of satisfaction to life, work, and community.
I think you were looking in a mirror when you scribed “dumbass”.
I’m still not watching MSNBC over that crap that Olbermann pulled on Hillary. Nope aint gonna do it.
How important it is for you to believe that you are smarter. Its ok, I know you are insecure and really need to see yourself in a superior light. It’s kind of like natural selection: the weaker get extinguished and sometimes you feel like you are being smothered by the SAVED! and need to cry out “TYRRANY OF THE MAJORITY!” and appeal to a Constitution that appeals to an absolute moral law.
The sad thing is, my little atheist friend, is that your contradiction is all too obvious.
RWB…I’m no atheist and you are not “saved”.
Dream on my brother.
http://www.cod.edu/people/faculty/fancher/SocDarw.htm
Social Darwinism
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Most people associate the phrase “Survival of the Fittest” with Darwin and the theory of evolution. Actually, Darwin didn’t originate nor use that phrase. It was coined by one of the shapers of Social Darwinism.
Social Darwinism is the general term which applies to several different ways in which people (not biologists) tried to apply a distorted and narrow interpretation of the concept of natural selection to human cultural systems. None of these political ideologies is actually any part of evolutionary theory.
One of the ways in which some people tried to apply a social version of natural selection formed part of the framework for the development of Nazism. This view embraced the assumption that the strong were superior, and thus ordained to prevail. Thus, if two countries were to make war on each other, the victor was biologically superior to the loser. It was therefore right and proper for that victor to subjugate or even eliminate the inferior opponent. This concept went hand in hand with the development of the notion of eugenics — not only could you prevail over the unfit by making war on them, but you could improve the breed by applying “enlightened” notions of selection and genetics.
A second way pseudo-evolutionary concepts were applied to human interaction was in the development of cut-throat capitalism in the United States. Here the ideology was that the cream naturally rose to the top; the successful made a lot of money simply because they were superior to the unsuccessful. Those who found themselves in poverty were poor because they were intrinsically inferior. This political philosophy resisted suggestions like universal education, welfare, minimum wage — in short, anything which interfered with the business of the “superior” ascending to the top of the heap and squashing the unfit beneath their expensive shoes.
KansasNative,
Are you an Agnostic?
If not, then what do you believe?
Atheists have no moral compass so will say anything to deny they’re atheism.
Our liberties are allowing the atheists here to destroy our society. George H.W. Bush was intelligent and thoughtful enough to say that atheists shouldn’t really be citizens. Maybe his son will do something in the time he has left as our President. It could be an executive order that simply outlaws evolution. Something like “every evolutionist is now an enemy of the Republic,” and then explain why.
Even the muslim countries know how to deal with these people(one of the rare things they do right). Why can’t we follow their lead?
“I’m still not watching MSNBC over that crap that Olbermann pulled on Hillary. Nope aint gonna do it.
” — That’s all right P.M. You’re making better use of your time with Ms. Grace and Mr. Savage.
rwb this is 4 u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lvU-DislkI
play nice children
bye
I am guessing that RWNB it is an atheist or liberal poster because word search shows a lot of the crap it is posting is on Democratic Underground. It is funny because a lot of the liberals at DU don’t get that it is satire. They think it is real and react, ridiculing the supposed fundamentalist posting it.
But as much as I like to see leftists fooled, I see no real value in it.
Outlander,
Something is wierd about how over the top RWNB is being.
RWNB: I’m still waiting from my Friday post. Don’t you take requests? You know like the Catholic version I requested on Friday.
You’re pretty good, but no Colbert.
You are not a Christian for Christians don’t accuse brothers and sisters in Christ of being non-Christian.
If the White House is cursed, what do we do about it? Is simply removing he book enough to lift the curse? Do we need an exorcism performed? Can Pelosi perform it? Or does it require a priest? Holy water? Is a simple prayer enough? Must it be razed to the ground and new temple built upon its ruins>
This is a public building, and if it is your judgement it is fouled.. please explain how we follow up? Enquiring minds want to know. It’s your hypothesis! Have at it….
Top Ten Signs You’re a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
Stolen from:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message490174/pg1
If we did evolve from monkeys then how come babies arent born monkeys
Even Darwin said his theories were wrong before he died so why do you still believe them
do you really not believe the bible it says we were created in seven days not millions of years
how come we cant speak monkey
This poster speaks the uncomfortable truth far better than I. A sample:
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In order for “alternate energy” to become feasible, it has to satisfy all of the following criteria:
1. It has to be huge (in terms of both energy and power)
2. It has to be reliable (not intermittent or unschedulable)
3. It has to be concentrated (not diffuse)
4. It has to be possible to utilize it efficiently
5. The capital investment and operating cost to utilize it has to be comparable to existing energy sources (per gigawatt, and per terajoule).
If it fails to satisfy any of those, then it can’t scale enough to make any difference. Solar power fails #3, and currently it also fails #5. (It also partially fails #2, but there are ways to work around that.)
The only sources of energy available to us now that satisfy all five are petroleum, coal, hydro, and nuclear.
. . . . .
The problems facing “alternate energy” are fundamental, deep, and are show-stoppers. They are not things that will be surmounted by one lone incremental improvement in one small area, announced breathlessly by a startup which is trying to drum up funding.
The way you can tell that a fan of “alternate energy” is a religious cultist is to ask them this question: If your preferred alternate source of energy is practical, why isn’t it already in use?
Why not? Because of The Conspiracy™. The big oil companies don’t want it to happen, and have been suppressing all this live-saving green people’s energy all this time for their own nefarious purposes.
As soon as you hear any reference to The Conspiracy™, you know you’re talking to someone who is living in a morality play. That isn’t engineering any more, that’s religion. And while religion is an important part of many people’s lives, it has no place in engineering discussions.
http://chizumatic.mee.nu/ghosts_of_my_past
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An uncomfortable truth, I’m afraid.
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BTW, Chas - how’s that apology going? Or do you have that list of posters and the evidence to support your accusation? I KNOW you don’t have the latter; that leaves only the former for a man of honor.
You, however, have neither manhood nor honor.
If you want to hear men speaking in monkey, just go to Jezzebell’s on Friday night.
“how come we cant speak monkey”
You are not paying attention - George WMD Bush speaks monkey very well - it’s English that he has a problem with.
“Why can’t we speak monkey?” sigh…
I’m no athiest.
“The idea that this has been a giveaway to the rich is a figment of the left’s imagination. Taxes paid by millionaire households more than doubled to $274 billion in 2006 from $136 billion in 2003. No President has ever plied more money from the rich than George W. Bush did with his 2003 tax cuts. These tax payments from the rich explain the very rapid reduction in the budget deficit to 1.9% of GDP in 2006 from 3.5% in 2003.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121659695380368965.html?mod=djemEditorialPage
Mostly all religion’s and for sure, the “Big 3″ are based on Sun worship or sorry, Son worship. Whether or not you accept it. Google “Astro-theology”, watch the movie “Zeitgeist” on youtube for a start. How many Gothic cathedral’s are emblazoned…sorry adorned with signs of the Zodiac? I can think of Chartres right now. The Roman’s took the church using Constantinople as “his” tool.
whups,…”her” tool.
that sounds bad.
GMC blatantly leaves out WIND power… LOL
Oh yea, nothing to apologize for, idiot!! Your mind is warped!! Go suck an egg!!
When will you people wake up? It’s very clear the catastrophes we face are warnings sweeping across America. They’re intensifying and bringing our nation to it’s knees economically. Along with other problems like oil, gas and rising prices, ec cetera.
But, the recent floodings, killer tornados and now the hurricane season is upon us to add to America’s current poised status of total collapse economically.
The most recent example of God’s warnings is California’s March 15th, 2008 Supreme Court decision to allow SAME-SEX-MARRIAGES amongst homosexuals.
God’s response? Send an unprecedented LIGHTNING BOLT SYSTEM from the Pacific Ocean igniting the greatest fire catastrophe in California’s history.
And where are [still today] ALL of the fires? Exactly. In northern California and surrounding the GAY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD: San Francisco.
It’s no accident that on June 24th, 2008 [not even 6 weeks after Calif's Court decision honoring GAYS, March 15, 2008] that 800 lighting bolts struck NORTHERN CALFIFORNIA and ignted an unparalleled fire disaster in the state’s history, to this day still attempting to put all the fires out.
Mercifully, almost no lives were lost since it is not God’s plan to wipe us out, yet. If He had wanted to do that He would have done it awhile back because of America’s wholesale destroying of over 40million babies since 1973’s Roe vs. Wade.
RWB — You arent cute… You arent funny… You are, however DISGUSTING!!!
HATE SPEECH HAS NO PLACE IN A FREE AMERICA!!
If Biblical Prophesy is being fulfilled, then might Bushco be the harbinger’s?
GMC70 posted July 21, 2008 at 12:21 pm
“3. It has to be concentrated (not diffuse)”
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Nope.
http://www.smallisprofitable.org
No apology? No balls. Its that simple, Chas.
Either that, or come up with that list of racist posters you say post here, and the evidence to support your accusation.
No? That’s not forthcoming?
Well then, what you’re left with is - no apology, no balls. No honor.
You’re a nothing.
BTW Chas, wind fails 1, 2, and 3. Wake up.
And who decides what is hate speach, and who will do the censoring? You?
You can’t even tell the truth!
“RedWhiteNBlue
Posted July 21, 2008 at 12:14 pm | Permalink
You are not a Christian for Christians don’t accuse brothers and sisters in Christ of being non-Christian.”
Therefore RWNB you also are not a Christian since you made such an accusation.
Solar power realities
A comment by someone who knows from professional experience — received via a reader. The report focuses on Tasmania, which is in roughly the equivalent latitude to Italy. So what is bad in Tasmania will be worse in Britain (for instance). As for Sweden or Canada, stop laughing!
I am one of those people who supply and maintain solar and wind power installations to power electronic systems at remote (unpowered) sites — e.g. two way radios up on mountain tops.
Twenty plus years ago, a couple of us had a good look at the possibility of making a dollar or two out of flogging this emerging technology to the great unwashed. We didn’t bother because it didn’t stack up energy wise or financially. I admit the efficiency of the solar panels us mere mortals can afford has improved a bit since then (at least 8%) but the figures are still similar.
A loose look at the energy required to make the things verses the energy output of them during their average lifetime was not really surprising. The panel would return enough energy in the first year to smelt the aluminum in its frame and its mounting and transport the manufactured panel to us. We could not get energy figures for melting the silicon so the wafers could be grown and then cut up to make the semiconductors but overall it will be high so we guessed that it would take at least 100Kwh . This equates to 3 years output from the panel used up by the time it is delivered on site.
But it doesn’t end there. Over the life of a set of panels the owner will probably need 3 or 4 sets of batteries. These are full of nice things like lead and acid and plastic and are very heavy. Then there is the magic box called the inverter. This is the box that converts the panel power up to the 230 volts mains power that we use. These are full of electronic things that take a lot of energy to make and have a reasonably short life span - say 10 years. You must include the energy costs for making and transporting these items to site in the overall energy that the solar panels must return during their lifetime. A battery pack of say 13kw h weighs in at approximately 500kg. So during the life of a set of panels you are going to have to transport 2 tons of them from (say) Sydney to Hobart and back again. Do the energy calculations on that one considering that the energy output per annum from each panel equates to about 4.5 litres of petrol.
I must qualify the above by saying that in our lovely clean green (work in the tourism industry or starve) state we don’t get a lot of sun for large chunks of the year. When we are working out the energy budget for a solar site we allow an average of 3.5 hrs a day full output from the panels and have battery backup to allow for 14 - 28 days (site dependant) with no output. When the batteries are fully charged you can store no more so you effectively get no output from the panels. Therefore the extra output in summer is not usable unless you seriously upscale the battery capacity. Up in Queensland you can get away with less than half the number of panels for the same load. In drier climates panels seem to last a bit longer as well.
There are some interesting practical considerations that must be considered when using these things. It never ceases to amaze me how many people seem surprised to discover that a solar panel needs to get actual direct sunlight on it to give a worthwhile output. This can be a simple task of (wait for it - shock horror - sit down Rev. Bob in case you have a nasty turn) cutting down the trees to the height of the panels because the sun gets pretty close to the horizon down here in winter. Or if you have built your house on the southern side of a hill or taller building it is even simpler - you need to move the house or increase the number of panels to compensate. An extra $10k - $40k will usually suffice.
In Tasmania more than 50% of houses don’t have a clear enough view north to make solar panels worthwhile and if you elevate them you begin to shadow the house to the south of you. This means you can never optimize the energy return from the panels. And what about our nice green leafy suburbs? When your northern neighbour’s trees get high enough to shade your panels you lose output. Or if a leaf blows onto one of your panels the output goes down. (if you cover approximately 5% of the face of the panel the output will drop to almost zero.) The government will have to bring in draconian chain saw laws and you will have to have a photo license and a chainsaw safe to own one. Panels need to be cleaned regularly. Feathered airfoil excrement is especially effective in stopping them working.
Every time you need to have the system serviced the serviceman will use petrol in his van to get there. This will probably average using the equivalent energy output of one panel for a year for each trip and that does not count the energy required to make the van in the first place.
There is little doubt that in Tassie a solar installation as a collective item over its life is a net energy sink not a source. It is no different financially. My last electricity account for my workshop lists the cost as 18.5c per kwh or 21.4c including supply charge and for this my installation costs can be amortized over a 50 year life span. Over a 20 year life an $800 panel will return me 900kwh or $166.50 worth of electricity. Don’t forget that out of the massive savings you have made there you must buy batteries, inverter, have it installed, pay the interest on the money you borrowed to buy the system and maintain it.
Note that this energy consumption would require 136 panels ($110,000.00), 14 day battery backup $13,500.00 (weight 1.6 tons, life 10 years), three phase inverter $15,000.00 (expected life 5 - 10 years). Interest alone would exceed $1,675.00 for the same period I paid the electricity authority $334.95. (Don’t forget that if the batteries went flat and I had no electricity to run the workshop I would still have to pay my employees so a system failure could wipe me out. I would have to have a generating plant and/or duplicate equipment to allow for that. Even if you quadrupled the energy output from the panels the figures don’t add up.
Wind fails 1, 2, & 3 — I call BS GMC… Simply NOT true on any one of those… WHY would you be against WIND power?? Geez!!
FINALLY CBS is exonerated for the infamous “wardrobe failure” during a Super Bowl half time show…. Hooooray!!! The Court of appeals said that the FCC had over-reacted in its pursuit and fine of CBS!! The entire “infraction” lasted all of 9/16 of a second!!
I repeat — Hooooray!!!
Here’s a shocker:
The belief that reporters are trying to help Barack Obama win the fall campaign has grown by five percentage points over the past month. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey found that 49% of voters believe most reporters will try to help Obama with their coverage, up from 44% a month ago.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/belief_growing_that_reporters_are_trying_to_help_obama_win
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No sh**. In other shocking news: Americans like hamburgers. Wow.
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Also:
WHY would you be against WIND power??
Because it cannot provide a significant source of power. It will always be a seductive gimmick.
Americans, of course, are suckers for seductive gimmicks. They also think of electricity as an energy source. It’s not, of course, it is a way of transporting energy, not energy itself.
But why am I answering you - you don’t even have the guts to do the right thing. I don’t think you’d recognize the right thing if it was standing in front of you, labeled in 20′ neon letters.
You have no honor.
Wow Chas, is that the first time you’ve seen a breast?
You are way to gitty!! LOL!!
GMC is afraid they’ll mount a windmill in front of his mouth.
BlueJay
http://icantforthelifeofmefigureouthowacandidateschoiceoflapeljewelrymakesadifference,/
Heee heee fargin hee!!
that video of hill was great. Shows the faithful for the weirdos they are.
And you realllllllly think it’s so far off base to think RWB’s posts are legit? We’ve got freaks like Parkay and the Phelps and even Phil Kline who post on the board, are you kidding me?
Yes well, Bob Dole and Al Gore have also posted….but I don’t think that was them.
Bob is well, 126 years old, and Al is to busy dodging debates to post.
GMC — Baed on your logic, just what is the energy called that electricity is transporting??
Chas - why am I not surprised that you have no grasp of basics.
Mechanical enegy is converted into electricity. Whether water (in hydroelectrics) drives the turbines which make the conversion, or the turbines are driven by steam (whether the steam is created by fossil fuels or nuclear power makes no difference), it is that mechanical energy which is being converted through turbines into electical energy and then transmitted to where it is used. .
Thus, when you recharge your electric car, you are not saving energy. That energy must be generated. Generating electricity is converting mechanical energy into electrical energy so it can be transmitted to where it is used.
Did you flunk science class too?
GMC — do you realize that with all of your bitching, and moaning, and arm flailings over what I said about nut fringe groups, that you have not posted ONE WORD here to refute anything I posted??? NOT ONE WORD!! All you have done is bitch, moan, groan, bellyache, and call me names!!
I will ignore your comments, until, or unless you can post ANYTHING that refutes what I have already said…
Just to remind your poor memory… I said from the very start, I am NOT posting nics of people who post here that seem to be part of such groups… Nor will I do so… in spite of your protestations… which are beginning to be boring, as well as irrelevant!!
Chas=Blunder(er) over and over.
I said from the very start, I am NOT posting nics of people who post here that seem to be part of such groups… Nor will I do so… in spite of your protestations… which are beginning to be boring, as well as irrelevant!!
You will not, because you cannot. You have no evidence to support your rather wild accusations. Moreover, I need “refute” nothing; YOU have made no case to refute. Moreover, you (either purposefully or ignorantly, and I know which I’m betting on) mischaracterize your original post. No one denies that such nutcases are out there; you, however, accused an unknown number of posters (how “know who they are” - how convenient) as belonging to or identifying with said nutcases.
No honor, no balls.
And, it turns out, no understanding of how electricity is made, either.
I second that GMC.
“They are real”
Oh yes, the wonderful mind of Chas… LOL
Yep — those nut fringe posters on this Blog sure do know who they are… Thgat is a fact…
As for electricity… I never said anything about how it is made… YOU, however, said electricty is not energy…. but just a way to transport eneregy…. SO…. What is the energy called, that electricity transports?? You think you can stasy with the subject??
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those nut fringe posters on this Blog sure do know who they are… Thgat is a fact…
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Speak freely as a man, flesh and blood, Chas. Who are “these posters”?
GMC croaks — “You will not, because you cannot.”
Sorry, GMC, I CAN, but I wont… See, IF I did, then you all would just tell me that it doesnt matter, because they are just nics… THEREFORE, I will NOT post the nics… If you accept the existence of the nut fringe groups, then surely YOU are capable of recognizing the garbage they post… You dont, or shouldnt, need me to point out who they are!! DumbAss!!
Sorry, GMC, I CAN, but I wont..
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Blunder
Chas, I think it is your moral duty to stand up and call out these evil posters. What does it say about you when you stand quiet against evil?
Do tell Chas, I’m unable to recognize by sight these nut fringe group that are posting on the WE Blog.
I’m not disregarding the evidence, just saying it’s ONLY evidence!
Well well well…once again the open thread has about as much mature conversation as a 3rd grade recess…”did not” “did so” “did not” “did so” as well as the occasional religious nutcase preaching to himself….
It is entertaining, I will grant you that!
Chas, I think it is your moral duty to stand up and call out these evil posters. What does it say about you when you stand quiet against evil?
***CRICKETS***
It is entertaining, I will grant you that!
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At times, very.
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Chas
Posted July 21, 2008 at 3:22 pm | Permalink
Do
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Find
The
Truth
ANTI = LYING SOB
WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB ?
ANTI = LYING SOB
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How now brown cow?
WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB ?
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The Sandwich Islands and Bolivia.
Dumba$$
Never
Forgets
The
Trash
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Next.
Are there strange things happening in earth’s weather? Yes, and inside the earth as well, with increased seismic activity that spawns eruptions of volcanoes and earthquakes. Does man cause these through global warming? No.
Does man cause these things otherwise? Yes, in my view at least.
Man creates them through rebellion against the Creator of all things. The globalists are doing so today through worship of Planet Earth.
Earth is not God.
Earth worshipers are denying God.
Earth, the un-God, might be in trouble. But God can overcome whatever problems with Global Warming might occur as long as people turn to Him instead of some pagan idea about “Mother Earth.”
The only God involved is GOD!
This is a test, people! Who are you going to worship? God the Creator or one of His creations? If you deny God, your denying the first comndment and have no hope of obaying the other nine and are doomed to Hell.
They arent the 10 suggestions they are the 10 COMANDMENTS.
What part of I COMAND YOU do you not understand?
Any one who gets all worked up about pollution or Global Warming misses the point. Your worshiping erth instead of it’s CREATOR!!
No wondor your doomed.
After The Rapture youll be stuck with this planet and those of us who are SAVED will be looking down on you from HEAVEN and watch you’re agony from on high.
Chas, I think it is your moral duty to stand up and call out these evil posters. What does it say about you when you stand quiet against evil?
***LARGER, MORE AGGRESSIVE CRICKETS***
“They’re intensifying and bringing our nation to it’s knees economically. Along with other problems like oil, gas and rising prices, ec cetera.”
That’s precisely what OBL said about his attacks on the US — he knows he cant beat us militarily — but knows how to help put a stranglehold on our economy —- wonder why he doesn’t attack Dubai — in the heart of the Arab / Muslim world and it’s beginning to look like a bigger Las Vegas ….. hmmmm
So we are winning what ever war it is we’re fighting in Iraq — but losing the war on terror ?
Oh where oh where is OBL —- not in Iraq for sure for sure —— lets debate the difference between time horizon and time line again —- what better way to distract the public from the continuing abuses of this administration ——-
sadly — talked to the son of a friend and asked him what he thought of Barak Obama — he said he should disappear — I asked why —- he said because he’s a Muslim I told him it wasn’t true that he never was a Muslim — he said his Sgt’s told him and most of the Army believes that — how sad the cons insist on poisoning the well of democracy time after time —– what happened to term limits?
Speaking of religion —- I have yet to see a picture or story of WPE going to church or McCain for that matter …… whats up with that — too busy not golfing?
McCain === Bush whay does that bother the cons so much ?
RWB has to be Nathan off his PTS meds again — didn’t think he could get any less rational — must be taking lessons from regular etal
Indie
“he said his Sgt’s told him and most of the Army believes that”
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You must believe that the military is full of village idiots. hmmm.
Great cartoon:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/215/index.html
RWB is a liberal in conservative clothing. He is so transparent that he doesn’t even reach the level of satire. No one but a liberal could be as stupid as he has shown himself to be.
Don’t be taken in by this idiot or give him any credibility.
“It could be an executive order that simply outlaws evolution.” And have him issue one lowering that pesky gravity constant while he’s at it.
I note that none of the fossil-fuel lovers (!!??) are not mentioning the national security aspects of the call to “transition away from a hydrocarbon economy,” as President Bush put it in Europe. I’d like for America to be free of the entanglements of foreign oil purchases.
I wish billions of our dollars were not going to help pay for the radical religious schools in the Middle East.
Psst… Indie. It’s satire, a joke. By now, a pretty lame one. But every time he posts, he gets someone else to comment.
“….through turbines into electical energy and then transmitted to where it is used. .”
so counselor which is it — is electricity, energy or not?
—- you said it was now you’re saying it’s not ?
is that some sort of legalese doublespeak ?
Cha cha chas???
RWNB - you guys gonna have internet access up there?
Safety is no accident
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,387521,00.html
If you are ever in the DC area go to Five Guys Hamburgers. Voted the best burger in the DC area 5 years in a row. Almost to big to get your mouth around and delicious. One large order of fries will feel a table of 5 and then some. The day we were there the potatoes were from Bulger, Idaho. Never have had better fries.
The power of Love and the Power of prayer is far stronger then your rebellion and pride. Nothing is impossible with God, and that includes you You will not be punished because God is a hate-monger, but becaues you rejected His only means of reconcillation.
“If you are ever in the DC area go to Five Guys Hamburgers.”
Okay, how do I find the place?
RWNB - didn’t Jesus say He would come like a thief and that nobody will be able to know when? What makes you so special claiming to have such insight when nobody else does?
“If your preferred alternate source of energy is practical, why isn’t it already in use?
“Why not? Because of The Conspiracy™. The big oil companies don’t want it to happen, and have been suppressing all this live-saving green people’s energy all this time for their own nefarious purposes.”
GMC seeks to ridicule all believers of new energy ideas by claiming that they think a “conspiracy” is out to stop them.
I’ve never been able to see the difference between a conspiracy and a business plan.
If your business is to sell oil, why would you do anything that reduce the selling price of that oil?
You wouldn’t. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s a collusion of business interests.
Indie -
Are you equally physics-challenged with Chas?
Chas - You made the charge. You cannot support same with either identification of these mystery posters, nor ANY evidence of said allegiance. We both know that you offered a particularly noxious charge - one of blantant racism. You offered nothing in support, instead smearing posters at large.
You screwed up. Again. You cannot support your writing, again.
Man up, Chas. Have the decency to support these charges with evidence. Name names. I triple-dare ya, with a cherry.
All of us here know you can’t. That’s all there is to it. I know it, you know it, readers here know it.
You can make this go away. Support your charges with evidence, or make the appropriate apologies. Be a man, Chas.
GMC what do you call it when Rockefeller bought up all competing oil companies and ran them under the banner of “Standard Oil?” What do you call it when he dumped oil on the market to run new competitors out of business, bought what assets they still had at bankruptcy prices, and then jacked the price of oil back up again?
Conspiracy?
Or business plan?
There’s really no difference . . .
I smell ALL CAPS, coming to a Blog near you!
HLP posting Limbaugh’s “Barack, the Magic Negro” and using the archaic and racist term “mullato.”
That’s for starters, GMC.
Now “man up and apologize” to Chas. He was right.
mulatto Show phonetics
noun [C]
an offensive word for someone with one black parent and one white parent
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=52434&dict=CALD
It comes from the Spanish word for “mule.”
Now “man up and apologize” GMC.
Capn, when you are done with that dictionary can you loan it to Fox News? They apparently have a problem with education, since they can’t spell it correctly.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/21/during-a-segment-on-education-fox-news-misspells-the-word-education/
It makes me wonder, “Is our children learning?”
Gee, now that I got GMC dead-to-rights on this, I wonder if I can spam the WEBlog for the next two weeks by demanding his apology like he did to Chas.
Or I can get a life.
I opt for the latter . . .
Chas was wrong
For your source CapnA
marriage Show phonetics
noun [C or U]
a legally accepted relationship between a woman and a man in which they live as husband and wife-
For you source should have been From your source..
now man up
Hank Price
Posted March 20, 2008 at 3:19 pm | Permalink
Well, let’s see. . .
McCain, the Republican nominee, is on a world tour talking with world leaders and makes a small gaffe.
Meanwhile in Philadelphia Obama, the great democrat mulatto messiah, is throwing his grandmother under the bus.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/mccains-curious-mistake-on-iraq/
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Nice attempt at a red-herring. Of course, marriage is defined that way now. That’s its legal definition.
It’ll be changed soon to reflect the changing attitudes of a more enlightened America.
Get over yourself.
Should Obama be refered to as a “hybrid”
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okobserver
Posted July 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm | Permalink
If you are ever in the DC area go to Five Guys Hamburgers. Voted the best burger in the DC area 5 years in a row. Almost to big to get your mouth around and delicious. One large order of fries will feel a table of 5 and then some. The day we were there the potatoes were from Bulger, Idaho. Never have had better fries.
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Sounds like that chain of burger places that disappeared, Fuddruckers. Had giant hamburgers and multi-serve french fries.
He should be referred to as a man.
Nice attempt at a red-herring. Of course, marriage is defined that way now.
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Now matters, get over yourself.
Hank also told CF2K that what Greenblatt writes in Salon.com is of no importance because Greenblatt is a Jew.
Heigh ho.
He should be referred to as a man.
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Good, people should quit calling him black or african american.
Don’t you just love that quiet, peaceful sound of silence when another reich-winger gets his ass kicked?
I know I do.
Thank you Capn! We have adequate juvenile posters. There is nothing entertaining about the bullying practice of demanding something / anything from another poster. We’re adults. We post what we choose and it stands. Most of us know what we consider silly, thought provoking, interesting, comical (the list is never ending) the first time we read it. By the end of the first day of ridicule I decide the juvenile doing the bullying is far less than the original poster.
Jesus is coming soon. Nut what does “soon” mean?
I keep changing my mind from 5 to 30 years.
When I hear of the Jews are making plans for building the third temple, I get excited. I believe in a pre-tribulation Rapture. So, if I am hear on Earth with the third temple, something has to be wrong with my theories.
When I think about the whole world seeing the return of Jesus, my definition of “soon” moves to 30 years or more. My idea is that the whole world needs to be plugged into Fox news to know when to look for Jesus coming in the sky. I think that we are about 30 years away from every around the world getting cable.
The over the top comments from rwb are reminiscent of history. Remember the Crusades? Thousands killed because “my god is better than yours”.
Religious freedom is one thing, being judgmental about others is out of line. You are getting quite tiresome and annoying with your supriority claims, your judgments and your fanatacism.
Is there no end to the machinations of this administration?
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Bush law chief seeks new Qaeda war declaration
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congress should explicitly declare war against al Qaeda to make clear the United States can detain suspected members as long as the conflict lasts, U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey said on Monday.
Mukasey urged Congress to make the declaration in a package of legislative proposals to establish a legal process for terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo, in response to a Supreme Court ruling last month that detainees had a constitutional right to challenge their detention.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2140857120080721?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&sp=true
“Jesus is coming on 12 / 21/ 2012.”
He must be married.
Obama is kicking ass on his world tour.
The soldiers and the commanders are loving him.
“Rational, thoughtful, compassionate” are their words describing Obama.
Too bad Republicans have a woman hating asshole for a c*ndidate.
“Congress should explicitly declare war against al Qaeda…”
I thought it was you people who cried because the war was not declared. Wouldn’t that be what you want?
“Religious freedom is one thing, being judgmental about others is out of line.”
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RedWhiteNBlue is the only religious poster I’ve read who doesn’t ridicule individual posters but instead concentrates criticism to opinions and ideals.
And, s/he must not be too outrageous or out of line — there are still some here who can’t delineate the differences between usual posts and satire.
I’ll only speak for myself Fleet. I never wanted this war of bush’s choice. I always thought Congress gave trust where it wasn’t deserved.
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lindainks55
Posted July 21, 2008 at 5:32 pm | Permalink
Is there no end to the machinations of this administration?
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Bush law chief seeks new Qaeda war declaration
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congress should explicitly declare war against al Qaeda to make clear the United States can detain suspected members as long as the conflict lasts, U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey said on Monday.
Mukasey urged Congress to make the declaration in a package of legislative proposals to establish a legal process for terrorism suspects held at Guantanamo, in response to a Supreme Court ruling last month that detainees had a constitutional right to challenge their detention.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2140857120080721?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&sp=true
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Yes, the cheese-eating surrender monkey tactics of the progressive liberals is much better.
*appease
*lay down and die
*give terrorists court appointed attorneys, that is if law enforcement can catch them in a terrorist camp 4000 miles away.
*promote the terrorists are freedom fighter cause (even though they don’t really fight for a country)
Yeah, good plan.
“Jesus is coming on 12 / 21/ 2012.”
Hide your wallet.
Bush law chief seeks new Qaeda war declaration.
I wonder: Is it even possible anymore to satirize this administration without it being entirely believable? I swear to anyone’s God, this is an Onio