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The Comedy Stylings of John
SheckySidney McCain the Third(for Shrub’s 3rd term.)
“Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?’”
Tip the veal and try your waitresses.
U-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-…..
That’s the wrong kind o’ joke to be belching upon the public – half of whom are women – Mr. “Sugar Cane” ‘n vastly unable.
Hey, McCain supporters! Did you hear the one ’bout the P.O.W. who was bent over, violated repeatedly, and heard to holler, “Stop! Stop, mommy! Please make it stop! Thirty-plus years from now, I’ve got to mindf–k the American populace so many times that they lie back, eyes closed in euphoric stupor, and say, ‘Oh, my! What’s become of our anal orifi?”
#$%^ McCain. And f— his stupid jokes, too.
F—–g crapheap. He should have died in ‘Nam. No great loss.
Him and Obama should run together. The could rule Upper and Lower Amerika with iron fists and bad jokes (of course we would, at gun point, be obliged to laugh).
Monkey I researched this ‘joke’ to see where it came from and can’t find it anywhere. Where did you see it or hear it? It is truely tastless is he said it but as with the McC**t tag I can find no source for it.
“okobserver” –
Find it here:
http://tinyurl.com/5hdj5n
Is HLP dead?
From ABC News –
Hundreds of super-rich American tax cheats have, in effect, turned themselves in to the IRS after a bank computer technician in the tiny European country of Liechtenstein came forward with the names of US citizens who had set up secret accounts there, according to Washington lawyers investigating the scheme.
Heinrich Kieber, a bank computer technician in Liechtenstein came forward with the names of US citizens who had set up secret accounts there, according to Washington lawyers investigating the scheme. He has been branded a thief by the government of Liechtenstein for violating the country’s bank secrecy laws.
He is now in hiding but scheduled to testify to the Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations Thursday via a video statement from a secret location, according to Congressional investigators.
Aides for committee chairman Carl Levin (D-MI) are scheduled to provide reporters with a background briefing later this morning in Washington on the committee’s investigation of tax haven banks in Liechtenstein and Switzerland.
Just heard a little while ago, the U.S. Ambassador to Russia, is going to Switzerland on Saturday, to meet with the Iranian head guy on nuclear operations. Amazing… Now BUSHCO is going to do what Obama advocated doing several weeks ago, when the Right Wingers attacked him for being an appeaser…
US guy named William Burns.
I wonder… Will those same Right Wingers attack BUSHCO for being appeasers?? Will they issue a statement of apology to Obama?? Stay tuned… Could be interesting!!
Most interesting, Monkey… And this guy in Lichtenstein named names?? My, my… reminiscent of the Mayflower Madam, eh?? LOL
Thanks for the source. It would appear legit eventhough one source is NOW. Let’s hope he has grown up since 1986. We have a very poor field to choose from this election on both sides of the aisle.
“okobserver” spins McC*nt’s rape joke with –
“Let’s hope he has grown up since 1986.”
You hoped that about George WMD Bush.
How’d that work out?
Oh, come on, ksgrm. Once a d!ckhead, always a d!ckhead. I wonder what his mother did to him to make him hate women so much.
McCain: The epitome of MCP. Emphasis on the P.
okobserver: I read MonkeyHawk’s link to an alleged newspaper clipping from 1986, article in which political enemies of McCain’s made an unsubstantiated allegation about a “joke” told which was denied by McCain. Even less there than the unsubstantiated allegation allegedly made by three anonymous reporters alleging McCain called his wife a name.
But whether it is true or has any basis in fact apparently is of no concern to MonkeyHawk. He is one of the liberals who believes that the “ends justify the means”, no matter how low.
When you have to go with pure crap like this instead of finding things in a long Senate career, you leave much to be desired as a researcher.
LOL Outlander — You mean like that one poster here who keeps trying to make a really sorry a$$ case for Obama being 44% Arab?? Is that the kind of lousy research you are referring to here?? LOL
Outlander you are probably right. Obama has so much to choose from in his recent history that they had to reach to find something on McCain. As I have said he isn’t my favorite person but given the alternative, well….
In a Republican debate McCain denied that he ever said he didn’t know anything about economics. Problem is he was captured on video and in print admitting he didn’t know anything about economics.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200801300008
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=5292190&page=1
McCain denies a lot of things, like reality. McCain clearly isn’t the best source to go to when finding out information about his record. The nutter still thinks he supported Webb’s GI Bill although he (and Bush) were the largest opposition to the bill.
Looks like a lot of Republicans are going to be fooled by McCain like they were by Bush. As Bush said, “There’s an old saying in Tennessee. I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says: ‘Fool me once…shame on…Shame on you…If fooled, you can’t get fooled again.’”
Yeah, “outlander” –
An “alleged” newspaper clipping.
That’s lame, even for you.
Maggot as I have said upthread we have a sorry couple of candidates this election. On both sides. McCain and Obama are both the kind of candidate we will need to look at say ‘well we disagree on several things and we agree on these things.’ Then we look at the one with the most agreeable programs and traits. Not rocket science but it will point out the qualifications or lack of them for both candidates.
http://www.creationcareforpastors.com/?gclid=CKibrvjDxJQCFQObFQodJDpcEg
This site is to serve pastors who are interested in a growing emphasis within the Christian community called “Creation Care”: applying biblical principles of stewardship to the environment we share with all living things. We like the word “creation” even better than the word “environment” because it includes all that makes the earth a wonderful place, and it reminds us it’s all a gift, a sacred trust from the hands of the Creator.
From a biblical perspective, “the environment” is God’s creation. Creation care does not just mean caring for “nature,” apart from humanity. It means caring for the entire creation: the environment and “all creatures great and small” including humanity. As those who confess Jesus Christ to be Savior and Lord, our relationship with all of creation must be in keeping with Christ’s relationship with all of creation. When we explore what the Bible says about creation, we interpret each text in light of our relationship to Christ and his relationship to all of creation. If the Bible teaches us that Christ has created the universe, gives it life and sustains it, and has reconciled everything to God, then our actions should participate in Christ’s creating, sustaining, and reconciling work.
Good link, Annie… :-)
Here’s what the Republicans have been dying to hear, the Bush regime has a court ruling granting them the power to drag anyone off the streets and hold them indefinitely without charges. Just accusing someone of being a terrorist is enough, the government doesn’t need to prove their case or present any evidence.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Federal_court_Bush_can_indefinitely_detain_0715.html
So we see the Republican plan. Bush claimed the terrorists hate us for our freedoms so Bush’s way of fighting terrorism is to remove as many freedoms as possible (with the exception of the gun thing, even terrorists should have their guns).
Even Stalin and Hitler’s countries had their mock trials, we won’t even bother with that.
McCain has a history of tasteless and inappropriate “jokes.” He is crude and vulgar. I’ve had enough of that from bush. America deserves better!
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8. Wife Beating Joke
7. Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran
6. Waterboarding Charlie Crist
5. Waterboarding His Staff
4. The French
3. IED on Jon Stewart’s Desk
2. The Death of Fidel Castro
1. 18 Year Old Chelsea Clinton
http://www.eyesonobama.com/blog/content/id_21922/title_McCains-Eight-Most-Inappropriate-Jokes/
Ugly Afghanistan setback
Afghanistan is where the 9/11 attacks were plotted planned under state protection. The Bush Iraq Adventure turned our attention away from a victory that could have been. -db
KABUL, Afghanistan — U.S. and Afghan troops have abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine American soldiers this week, officials said Wednesday.
Compounding the military setback, insurgents quickly seized the village of Wanat in Nuristan province after driving out the handful of police left behind to defend government offices, Afghan officials said. -Associated Press
Don’t forget J Sidney McC*nt’s pathetic singing “Bomb Iran” while his spiritual advisor calls for global jihad!
Check out the new Jib Jab offering:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/07/15/VI2008071500925.html?hpid=topnews
Priceless.
Meanwhile – is Afghanistan slipping even further?
US troops pull out of Afghan base after attack
KABUL, Afghanistan – U.S. and Afghan troops have abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine American soldiers this week, officials said Wednesday.
Compounding the military setback, insurgents quickly seized the village of Wanat in Nuristan province after driving out the handful of police left behind to defend government offices, Afghan officials said.
http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/464847.html
bth, see above post by DavidB
“Priceless.”
Like today’s open thread!
Linda I read your link and followed all of the arrows but could find no solid evidence of what you are saying. If you read your link with an open mind I am sure you would see what I am saying. I’m not defending McCain but how many of us haven’t asked someone when he quit beating his wife in jest? Waterboarding is to some awful and to others a method of extracting the truth. He joked about it a few times. I have heard others on this blog do that on ocassion. I am sure in the months to come we will have opportunity to lambast both McCain and Obama for policy decisions and other matters which will directly affect their ability to govern. But the avenue of making someone disqualified because they have a poor sense of timeing and humor seems to be grasping for straws to me.
It’s important enough to read twice!
Someone may still think the only thing going on in the world is a beauty queen stumbled or a pair of movie stars added twins to their family.
Look! Over there! It’s bright and shiny!
Steven,
I’m buying our next book! It’s past my turn to get one, and pass it to you after I’ve read it. I will be shopping tomorrow so IF you haven’t already bought Jane Mayer’s “The Dark Side,” I will get it tomorrow. Deal?
I am PROUD that my son hates
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-715-2/#comment-384283
Nuff said.
Ben,
The link you provided yesterday, the one with the graph showing CO2 levels and temps for about the last 800,000 years doesn’t seem to work anymore. Do you have a link to just the graph?
My what a load of leftwing spleen-venting we have today.
Such hate.
“Waterboarding is to some awful and to others a method of extracting the truth”
So, when Songbird Sidney said we bomb civilians he was telling the truth?
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/what_we_call_the_news
Sad but true…
Sol – unfortunately I didn’t bookmark or link the ‘original’ and it appears that wunderground site is down. I was trying to check some regular weather forecasts this morning and can’t get onto anything there.
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Heckler
Posted July 16, 2008 at 9:46 am | Permalink
My what a load of leftwing spleen-venting we have today.
Such hate.
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Yeah, I noticed that Heckler.
There’s Joe aka MonkeyHawk “Failed Liberal Radio Talk Show Host” Myers, followed by the maggot, then the typical bobble-headed liberal “yes liberals” and finally led by Ben cheer leading on the deaths of American military in Afghanistan.
What a lovely crew of people.
Be frightened American children, this is what your future will consist of, hate-filled, two faced individuals, who don’t have the decency to say good morning before they spit in your cocoa puffs.
Um, gosh-giggity-darn, Heckler:
Have you ever been raped? Did you lose your virginity to a rapist? If you can answer “yes” to those questions and STILL rhapsodize to McCain’s idiocies, then I guess I’m in awe of yer a$$ this morning.
‘Cause I just can’t find anything funny in McCain’s little joke – I don’t give a flying f–k if it’s from 1986. My own rape dates back to 11/23/74, and I’m STILL pi$$ed as all get-OUT ’bout it.
Somehow I don’t think you’ve ever been violated. And if you have, you prob’ly didn’t have to worry about pregnancy. And you probably didn’t lose yer hymen, neither.
What was it like, you ask? Well, gee whillikens, let me see:
Try having someone’s fist up your bootie, crunching all your internal organs into tiny little granules, and then shovin’ the whole kit ‘n ka-f–king-boodle out yer throat at breakneck speed.
Sound like fun? Would that float your boat?
And this agony ensued from someone with less to brag about than a baby mushroom and/or dysenteric amoeba.
See? See why we loathe McCain so much???????
One of my sisters was raped twice filmfan. She doesn’t go through life as a perpetual victim and finger pointer though.
You loathe McCain because you can’t get a handle of reality for yourself filmfan.
There are people that have been through worse than you and maintain a positive attitude about life.
Good luck with yours filmy, you’re gonna need it.
Film
Feel better now?
RE: The “joke:”
1) A politically motivated NOW opponent as a source.
2) It’s 1986.
Even if true – which is not at all clear – it’s 1986! I’m sure NONE of us, of course, has EVER said ANYTHING that in hindsight we regret.
-sarcasm off-
Yeesh. This from the poster who – happily – rolls in sh*&. Just consider the poster from which it comes, and discard accordingly.
regular – as usual you are full of sh*t with your cheer-leading LIES. I find it tragic that these things are happening – and doubly tragic because you and yours are making it worse.
“GMC70″ –
Yeah, the 1980s were known as the era when rape jokes were pure comedy gold.
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bth
Posted July 16, 2008 at 10:06 am | Permalink
regular – as usual you are full of sh*t with your cheer-leading LIES. I find it tragic that these things are happening – and doubly tragic because you and yours are making it worse.
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Just call it like I see it and yours was a definite case of cheer leading the deaths of American military.
There was no preference of “hey this is tragic news” or any other. It was cold, political bias typical left wing hate speech, which by the way, you are quite good at hate speech Ben.
Yea, keep telling yourself that. You are good at self-delusion.
Have y’all read the comments for the last IPCC report?
”
Please write down more long history with showing the uncertainty. It means following
two things.
1) Peoples like to know the reason of the ice age coming,
2) Long ago CO2 concentration was really high, in that age what the Earth temperature
was.
These comments have to writ down in the first history pages.
[Akira Sekiya]
”
The reason for the ice age coming? sonds like this reviewer sees global cooling as well.
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
https://pol.moveon.org/donate/foxsmears.html?rc=wexler2
Marietta resident shoots suspected rabid fox
http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080715/NEWS01/307150011/1013/NEWS05
“Phillip Bowers said he believes a fox that lunged at him this morning outside his Marietta home was rabid, though he says he managed to shoot the fox in midair just before it reached him.”
”
It is a bit of a stretch to claim three centuries of awareness of greenhouse gases contributing to a possible climate warming effect is several centuries old. I think it was
Arrhenius who actually made a public case of it, in just a bit over century and a decade
ago.
[Jerry Mahlman]
”
Emphisis mine.
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
Linda,
Since when did you care about anyone being crude and vulgar?
You use those as standards against McCain yet claim loyalty to WS Clark and stick up for MonkeyHawk, two of the most crude and vulgar posters here.
Neither of who are joking when they say the crap they say.
McCain might have said some bad jokes, but at least we all knew they were just jokes, MonkeyHawk and WS Clark on the other hand are just crude and vulgar.
Why do you continue to allign yourself with such posters, claim loyalty to them, and stick up for them when the things they say are far worse than anything McCain has ever said?
”
One could quibble with the idea that “observations … are the foundation of our science”,
since the whole IPCC enterprise is motivated by the theory of global warming due to
increasing greenhouse gases. I’d suggest changing “the foundation” to “a foundation”.
[Dian Seidel]
”
Emphasis mine.
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
““Over the last decade global land-surface sets have been able to increase the number of
stations substantially”. Is untrue.There has been a substantial reduction in the number of stations since 1980. see T C Peterson and R S Vose 1997 “An Overview of the Global
Historical Climatology Network Temperature Database” Bulletin of the Royal
Meteorological Society Vol 78, pages 2837-2849. There has been a particularly large
reduction in the former Soviet Union. Delete from “decade” on line 30 to “not” on line 33
and replace with “substantial reductions in numbers of stations, and in their reliability,
since 1980, have affected accuracy of recent figures”.
[Vincent Gray]
”
Emphasis mine.
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
Mind you, these are the comments of the peer reviewers of the 4th IPCC report.
Nathan – i think it was the old classic movie To Kill a Mockingbird with a scene where the guy shoots a rabid dog. Unfortunatelt rabies is endemic in the South. Usually you get a good clean shot – this guy must have been a really good shot to hit mid-air.
Some day, Regular, you are going to cross a very important line… And there will be some who will deal with you about it… I wont be one of those… I will just watch…
A related note – in PA the problem is ’sick birds’ that kids will pick up off the ground. Actually rabid bats.
Rape CAN be funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljCRIIZPnks
“Nathaniel,” of course, runs to the defense of McC*nt’s rape joke with –
“McCain might have said some bad jokes, but at least we all knew they were just jokes…”
So share with us some of your favorite good rape jokes, “Nathaniel!”
”
Replace “Remarkable success” with “usefulness” No model has yet succeeded in
predicting a future climate change and until one does they cannot be considered
particularly “successful”
[Vincent Gray]
”
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
Inflation worst since Bush 1 was president:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/news/economy/cpi/index.htm?postversion=2008071610
Inflation: Price jump worst since ‘91
Record gas and higher costs prices spark a 5% annual jump in Consumer Price Index.
“Unstated here is the mega-challenge on how to properly initialize the complete climate
system in our models. Many tricks are employed that produce an equilibrated state, but
not necessarily comfortably close
”
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
”
We always have to be very careful when we discuss “abrupt climate change”. Typically,
such “abrupt”climate changes take decades to centuries to millenia, e.g. thermohaline
circulation slowdown/collapse(50-100 years), West Antarctic ice sheet collapse(500-
1000years) ; Arctic summer sea ice melting roughly a century or so).
[Jerry Mahlman]
”
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
It is starting to look like the “consensus of the scientific community” is not exactly the consensus it is purported to be. It also looks like the IPCC report is more of a politically motivated and targeted hit piece than a scientific report.
Remember, all of these comments are from reviewers of the report itself. I strongly suggest y’all take a gander at the provided link.
“Of course, if I was Clark, I would make a two year long ranting, victim thing about it and repeat how I was abused by the awful Libs.”
“but at least we all knew they were just jokes, MonkeyHawk and WS Clark on the other hand are just crude and vulgar.”
Well, top ‘o the morning to both of you – what a pleasure – I am glad that I get under your skin so bad that you talk about me even when I am not here. What amazing powers I possess!
Ha!
Hey, I have some ribs to smoke this afternoon, so I won’t be around much, but feel free to talk about me all you want.
Losers.
Blow Jobs are funny too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD5L2CxRMG4
JMWalker
Posted July 16, 2008 at 5:38 am | Permalink
Max, some of us actually sleep. But trying to explain to you about CMO’s and CDO’s would be like trying to explain rocket science to a caveman. My suggestion is for you to stick to your dogs, after all every pack needs a bitch.
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Like you sleep Walker? Posting at Midnight and 5 am?
Oh, still waiting for your explanation…….from you the Expert!
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
No Nathan, jokes about certain things are not at all funny. There is no joke about rape you numbskull.
Tell me Nathan, would a joke about a soldier committing suicide after the war be funny?
The silence from the AGW alarmists is deafening.
JMWalker
Posted July 15, 2008 at 10:05 pm | Permalink
I suggest you take a real close look at how the mortgages were split into a thousand pieces, lumped together, then sold as package deals to places like Bear Sterns, Countrywide, etc. They put down roughly 1% of the package price on packages worth billions. What happened to Bear Sterns? Countrywide? Fannie and Freddie? Hedge fund managers are loving it: THEY CAN BY A WHOLE COMPANY FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR.
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Say HD, Walker’s showing his true arrogance and ignorance here.
LOL.
Please tell us about these package deals sold for pennies on the dollar.
Also, explain one thing, how did Countrywide buy these packages for 1% of the package price (to use your terms)?
Let’s see how bright you be JM —-
Waiting………
Ok, JM, just confess–
You have no frickin idea what you are talking about.
You read the Demunderground talkin points about the “mortgage crisis” all being the fault of Bush and Big Corporate America. And now you think you know it all!!!
You can’t even explain the one Countrywide transaction you alleged to have occurred:
“They put down roughly 1% of the package price on packages worth billions.”
No back-up for your allegation? Then you are just blowing Liberal Smoke out of your a**.
So Porky pig raping Elmer Fudd isnt funny?
Obama has 7-point edge on McCain: Reuters poll
More than a month after kicking off the general election campaign, Obama leads McCain by 47 percent to 40 percent. That is slightly better than his 5-point cushion in mid-June, shortly after he clinched the Democratic nomination fight against New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1535315320080716?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&sp=true
Way too far Regular. Even for you. To accuse anyone of cheering a soldiers death is just tasteless.
Cosmo? You out there?
Ben? Anything to add to the AR4 comments?
Worst since Daddy bush held office!
Retail prices were up 5% annually in June, the biggest 12-month change since May 1991 – an annual figure that was skewed by the surge in gasoline prices related to the first Gulf War.
Inflation: Price jump worst since ‘91
http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/news/economy/cpi/?postversion=2008071610
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LLTVET
Posted July 16, 2008 at 11:52 am | Permalink
Way too far Regular. Even for you. To accuse anyone of cheering a soldiers death is just tasteless.
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Just calling it like I see it. Those who scavenge from the deaths of noble soldiers sacrificing their lives, deserve no quarter or respect from me.
Maxie this long cut and paste is for you.Top ten reasons for the credit crunch/ mortgage mess
http://www.careergateways.co.uk/articles/SP/001
# 1. Low savings – Alan Greenspan, the former Chairman of the US Federal Reserve, writing in his new must-read book The Age of Turbulence describes how booming emerging economies, like China, have produced massive wealth surpluses. Because their consumer goods and leisure markets are still in their infancy, they had little to spend the money on. Similarly, their social welfare systems are in their very early years of development too. Therefore, their citizens and governments chose to save their excess wealth for their future security. Taking all the emerging economies together, there has been an unprecedented amount of savings sloshing around the world economy looking for an investment return.
# 2. Low interest rates – As the supply of money in the world economy increased, so interest rates (i.e. the return offered on money) have fallen globally. Interest rates not only reflect the returns available to savers but also the price of money charged to borrowers. And most economic activity, especially expansionist and risk-taking activity, is financed by borrowed money – i.e. debt.
# 3. Low inflation – Almost uniquely in history, a period of low interest rates was mirrored by an equally prolonged period of low inflation. This was mostly due to the supply of cheap goods within emerging markets which themselves were based on a massive supply of cheap labour. Low inflation gave lenders of debt confidence that the real value of borrowers’ repayments would be preserved.
# 4. Cheap and freely available credit – Economic activity, especially the taking of investment risk and the purchase of assets has been relatively easy and low cost. For ordinary investors, housing has been a cheap, secure, one-way and highly leveraged bet as follows: a 90% home loan mortgage (i.e. “debt”) means a borrower has to only invest $30k of cash (in effect of “equity”) to control (or “leverage”) an asset worth $300k. A 10% rise in market prices therefore means a 100% return on equity. Many households have withdrawn equity from the rising value of their home to spend on consumer products. This has partly fuelled a consumer boom.
# 5. Lenders leveraged their collateral – Investment banks have offered a way for ordinary commercial and mortgage lenders to re-lend the same amount of underlying collateral many times over. How? By first securitising the loans they have made in a specialist bond issues (known as a SIVs – structured investment vehicles) and then getting back the money they previously lent so they can lend it again out. Financial investors buy the bonds – getting a discount on the full value of the future stream of loan repayments in exchange for instantaneous refinancing. It is a trade of value for timing. This, in essence, was Northern Rock’s business model. In the US, lenders took full advantage of the structures to lend money to everyone, including households with dubious credit histories – known as “sub prime” borrowers.
# 6. Massive growth of credit derivatives – Investment banks then deconstructed these securitisations into different debt parcels known as collateralised debt obligations (CDOs). The view was there should be sufficient spreading of risk within the CDOs, even if the underlying borrowers were of low grade credit quality, so that the investors were comfortable that there was sufficient underlying collateral to pay interest and make repayments. Crucially this view was validated by the credit ratings agencies S&P and Moodys, who endorsed the good credit quality of the new debt packages with AAA ratings.
# 7. CDOs sold by the banks to hedge funds – The investment banks have made fortunes designing, structuring, financing and selling both the SIVs for lenders and CDOs to hedge funds using the financial alchemy that the CDOs melted away the underlying credit risk. The CDOs were sold and resold all around the world, so it was just as likely a UK hedge fund would buy CDOs that contained exposure to US sub-prime mortgages within their linkages.
# 8. M&A boom fuelled by Leveraged Buy-Outs – The last three years have seen record levels of M&A activity, notably in leveraged buy-outs. 2006 saw nine of the 10 largest LBOs in history. Up until 2005, the largest was still the infamous leveraged buy-out of RJR Nabisco by KKR back in 1988 (wonderfully narrated in the book Barbarians at the Gate). Between 2005 and 2007, there were few companies whose stock prices were not being pulled higher by either an actual takeover or the prospect of one.
# 9. Rising asset prices / glowing consumer confidence – By the summer of 2007, the global economy was booming. Confidence was high based on full employment, rising earnings, cheap credit, low inflation, rising equity markets, soaring house prices, and the unstoppable growth of emerging markets. It felt like a golden age.
# 10. Economy doing well but signs of overheating – At many parties, there comes a point when guests have had a little too much to drink and get overly merry. So it is with economics. Alan Greenspan describes it as the time “to take away the punch bowl”. In the summer of 2007, almost every indicator in every market in every economy was at or near their historic peak. Were these highs sustainable and for how long?
“I will be shopping tomorrow so IF you haven’t already bought Jane Mayer’s “The Dark Side,” I will get it tomorrow. Deal?”
Sure, Linda. Sorry I did not answer sooner, I was at the doctor’s office most of the a.m. I have not heard of “The Dark Side”, what is it about?
maxie if that was too complex for you, there is this fine explanation….
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/26/subprime-primer-stic.html
Here’s what the Republicans have been dying to hear, the Bush regime has a court ruling granting them the power to drag anyone off the streets and hold them indefinitely without charges.
Start with the taggers and the skater trash, and I’m down with it.
“Start with the taggers and the skater trash, and I’m down with it.”
Why not Republicans who post on blogs? A few years ago conservatives would have been outraged had Clinton had these powers, now they seem to have no problem with it. Many times I heard stories about how Clinton is going to bring in the United Nation’s military (where did the UN get an army I’ll never know), throw true Americans in gulags and take away our guns. Now conservatives welcome it.
The moment Obama gets into office the fear mongering will start again, probably with something about how Obama is a Muslim and will imprison Christians.
Ding dong the merry oh
Sing it high sing it low.
Ding dong Tony Snow is dead!
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/conservatism-will-miss-snows-eloquence-passion/#comment-384531
I am PROUD that my son hates
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-715-2/#comment-384283
Damaged goods.
Sorry, MP .
Here’s a good link Steven. Includes a few excerpts of the book. Let me know if you think it sounds interesting OR maybe there is another you’ve thought would be a good read??
Hope the doctor appointment was routine and not an indication of illness.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92528583
(sarcasm off).
Dang, how hard to they have to make this?
In answer to my question:
http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Inside-Terror-American/dp/0385526393
Yeah, Linda, that looks good.
Our posts crossed – the book looks very interesting to me.
Maggotpunk,
I remember the wingnut hysteria from the 90’s, black helicopters, bar codes on highway signs to direct the UN troops and places like this…..
http://www.libertyforlife.com/jail-police/us-concentration_camp-locations.htm
Damn Annie… just think…. they were having mental hernias over the “shadow government” Boooo!!
Ooops wrong dialect there…
“Shadder Gubmint”
Hey Charles,
who wouda knowd we gotz a federal execution center right here in the Wichita shaazam
SolDevVB
“Mind you, these are the comments of the peer reviewers of the 4th IPCC report.
…
Remember, all of these comments are from reviewers of the report itself. I strongly suggest y’all take a gander at the provided link.”
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As I’ve posted many times before, the requirement (qualification) to become a “reviewer” is to simply ask to be given the draft report(s). The “reviewers” are self-selected.
Political_mama,
Do we have any real srouces for this rape joke that McCain said over 10 years ago?
“As I’ve posted many times before, the requirement (qualification) to become a “reviewer” is to simply ask to be given the draft report(s). The “reviewers” are self-selected.”
—-
If this is the only qualification for reviewers, why do you hold “Peer Reviewed” in such high regard?
The “reviewers” are self-selected.
So that is the peer review you tout? Kinda lets the air out of the balloon then doesn’t it? Anyone and everyone can review and post comments to the IPCC reports. Nice.
”
It is a bit of a stretch to claim three centuries of awareness of greenhouse gases contributing to a possible climate warming effect is several centuries old. I think it was
Arrhenius who actually made a public case of it, in just a bit over century and a decade
ago.
[Jerry Mahlman]
”
Status
Noted. Text has been edited.
Cosmo, when your old enough, I will buy you a beer and we can have a good laugh about all this AGW nonsense.
“One could quibble with the idea that “observations … are the foundation of our science”,
since the whole IPCC enterprise is motivated by the theory of global warming due to
increasing greenhouse gases. I’d suggest changing “the foundation” to “a foundation”.
[Dian Seidel]
”
Status:
Accepted. Text has been edited.
”
“Over the last decade global land-surface sets have been able to increase the number of
stations substantially”. Is untrue.There has been a substantial reduction in the number of stations since 1980. see T C Peterson and R S Vose 1997 “An Overview of the Global
Historical Climatology Network Temperature Database” Bulletin of the Royal
Meteorological Society Vol 78, pages 2837-2849. There has been a particularly large
reduction in the former Soviet Union. Delete from “decade” on line 30 to “not” on line 33
and replace with “substantial reductions in numbers of stations, and in their reliability,
since 1980, have affected accuracy of recent figures”.
[Vincent Gray]
”
Status:
Noted. Text has been edited.
Chas,
What is this “important line” to cross where people will be dealt with?
Apparently it is ok for you to call people a Bitch, slut, A$$whole, bastard, and call yourself a minister.
It is ok for BlueJay to make threats against my father and I.
It is ok for MonkeyHawk and WS Clark to be as crude and vulgar as they want to be.
So what is this line you speak of to Regular about?
Just curious.
Replace “Remarkable success” with “usefulness”
No model has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change and until one does they cannot be considered
particularly “successful”
[Vincent Gray]
Status:
Noted. Text has been edited.
SolDevVB,
“So that is the peer review you tout?”
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No. The reports are compiled from peer-reviewed, published papers.
Download all of the chapters from
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
Read all of the references at the end of each chapter.
”
We always have to be very careful when we discuss “abrupt climate change”. Typically,
such “abrupt”climate changes take decades to centuries to millenia, e.g. thermohaline
circulation slowdown/collapse(50-100 years), West Antarctic ice sheet collapse(500-
1000years) ; Arctic summer sea ice melting roughly a century or so).
[Jerry Mahlman]
”
Status:
The point is well taken, although much
faster changes than those cited by the
reviewer are now known to occur. We
will alter the text to clarify the concept
of abrupt climate change.
The reports are compiled from peer-reviewed, published papers.
It would seem then that these papers, even though peer reviewed are quite flawed. If any Joe Shmoe can be a ‘reviewer’ as you state, it would seem that they are taken seriously as pretty much every one that I posted has caused a change in the report.
So are the IPCC reports bogus, flawed, hysterical, etc. or is it the peer reviewed papers used to compile the reports?
Obama Fairy Lives in FantasyLand – And the Sheep Follow Him To Never Never Land
No matter how fast Obama waves his magic wand, he can never Hope to find every last Nuke on the planet from every nation and every terrorist group.
Obama Fairy could no sooner get rid of all Nukes in the world, then he could get rid of all Guns in the US.
Who can believe this guy who lives in Fantasy Land? How many will fly over the Cuckoo’s Nest after the bird man?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/16/obama-meets-with-potential-vp-picks/
Obama Pledges to Focus on Eliminating Nuclear Stockpiles
by FOXNews.com
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
“So are the IPCC reports bogus, flawed, hysterical, etc. or is it the peer reviewed papers used to compile the reports?”
Neither. Have you stopped beating your wife?
Do you think that you could compile points from all the papers listed at the end of each chapter without making any errors? Without needing editing changes to make the ideas easier to understand? That’s the purpose of reviewing the IPCC drafts.
Who can believe this guy who lives in Fantasy Land? How many will fly over the Cuckoo’s Nest after the bird man?
Me maxi,
just bought my ticket on the bird man express woo hoo!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYEgYVyBDuM
I’ll make it easy for you:
Let’s talk about this one in particular;
“
Replace “Remarkable success” with “usefulness”
No model has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change and until one does they cannot be considered
particularly “successful”
[Vincent Gray]
“
Status:
Noted. Text has been edited.
Remarkable success? “Has yet to produce a single accurate prediction/projection” is a remarkable success?
“It is ok for MonkeyHawk and WS Clark to be as crude and vulgar as they want to be.”
The ribs are looking great – sorry Chas – they are just Western Cut ribs so you and your wife will have to wait – but I couldn’t help notice that Nathaniel still has a fixation on me – sorry Price – I have better things to do.
Back to the grill!
WS,
What kind of wood are you using?
While you’re googling RealClimate for your canned response cosmos, I’ll give you another one;
”
“Over the last decade global land-surface sets have been able to increase the number of
stations substantially”. Is untrue.There has been a substantial reduction in the number of stations since 1980.
”
Status:
Noted. Text has been edited.
Looks to me like a blatant lie. And the IPCC needs the average Joe Shmoe, anyone who requests to be a ‘reviewer’, to tidy up the lies.
Has Obama promised to Cure Cancer yet?
Aids?
Heart Disease?
Hate?
Eliminate all Crime?
Eliminate all War?
Balance the Budget?
WS Clark,
Next time you stop in, you might give me that apology you said you would.
I wouldn’t want to call you a liar, but you went back on your word.
Perhaps you just don’t value your word that much and if that is the case, I won’t either.
SolDevVB,
Do yourself a favor. Read the material that you are attacking because of editing, and note the very large amount of information it contains.
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
http://environment.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn11649/dn11649-1_688.jpg
Hey Maxie how’s your 401k doing? chortle snicker laugh snort hehehe
Read the material that you are attacking
Attacking? Simmer down. I am posting comments from reviewers. But you don’t want to talk specifics do you? As this is a ‘recent’ release, RealClimate doesn’t give you a canned response yet does it?
No model has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change and until one does they cannot be considered
““Over the last decade global land-surface sets have been able to increase the number of
stations substantially”. Is untrue.There has been a substantial reduction in the number of stations since 1980.
More cover up from the idiot in charge. When the Republicans had the majority during his first six years in office they didn’t attempt oversight, now that that has changed bush just covers it all up. Will we ever know the extent of corruption of this administration?
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Bush won’t give Congress papers in CIA leak probe
President George W. Bush, asserting executive privilege, has rejected Congress’ request for documents on FBI interviews with Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney from a probe to find who leaked the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1644901720080716?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
Linda,
What you see as more cover up from Bush, I see as more partisan political digging from the left trying to scrape up anything they can to turn into some poltical issue.
Global cooling(sic) update:
‘NOAA: Eighth Warmest June on Record for Globe‘
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/jun/jun08.html
“The combined average global land and ocean surface temperatures for June 2008 ranked eighth warmest for June since worldwide records began in 1880, according to an analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. Also, globally it was the ninth warmest January – June period on record.”
For a list of reasons people are finding Obama hard to mock and poke fun at. Seems the late-night comedians are having some difficulties finding material. This article says it could be anything from reverse racism, there is nothing “buffoonish” about Obama, audiences are intoxicated by him and resistant to seeing him skewered…
But, one thing this article proves to me is there will be no end to the complaining! Now they’re complaining Obama isn’t funny enough!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/opinion/16dowd.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
cosmos –
Replace “Remarkable success” with “usefulness”
No model has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change and until one does they cannot be considered particularly “successful”
Why are you changing the subject.
Didn’t the BushBots slam Obama for suggesting that he would talk to Iran?
http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/464704.html#recent_comm
US picks compromise over confrontation with Iran
WASHINGTON – For now, the Bush administration has chosen compromise over confrontation in dealing with Iran’s disputed nuclear program with a dramatic gesture intended to demonstrate commitment to a negotiated solution.
In breaking with past policy to send a top diplomat to weekend talks with Iran’s chief nuclear envoy, the administration has in its waning months refined its position on contact with the hardline Iranian regime, much as it did in the ongoing effort to rid North Korea of its atomic weapons, which has shown recent promise.
“Didn’t the BushBots slam Obama for suggesting that he would talk to Iran?”
#1) Bush isn’t doing the talking
#2) A 3rd level guy is going
#3) He won’t talk
#4) 5 other nations will be there
#5) Don’t you people listen to the partly goverment funded NPR?
A questions for you cosmos, since you don’t want to discuss the two lies from the IPCC report;
Take a look at the chart Ben posted. Look at the far right. You will see that CO2 has markedly increased, right in the middle of a temperature decrease. Explain?
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709
SolDevVB,
Why are you unable to understand the meaning of a “draft” report?
And I’d say that climate models are both useful and successful.
http://environment.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn11649/dn11649-1_688.jpg
Why are you unable to understand the meaning of the word lie?
The original text apparently stated that computer models had “remarkable success”.
A reviewer, any Joe Shmoe that requested a copy, corrected the lie with:
Replace “Remarkable success” with “usefulness” </i?
No model has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change and until one does they cannot be considered particularly “successful”
The IPCC responded with
Noted. Text has been edited.
So the IPCC agrees that no computer model ”has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change” and changed the text.
And now you link to someone else who supports computer models even though the IPCC knows that no model has yet succeeded in predicting a future climate change
Go figure.
I’m out for the day y’all. I breathlessly await your propaganda cosmos. Y’all be good.
““We’ve already scratched thrift, candor and brevity off the list of virtues in this presidential cycle, so why not eliminate humor, too?” wrote James Rainey in The Los Angeles Times, suggesting “an irony deficiency” in Obama and his fans”.
————————
Well since this prez wanna be isn’t thrifty, candor (honest) and short and sweet it stands to reason he doesn’t have a sense of humor.
Early on he called Dowd on her comment about his ears, he has made his wife, his race and his pastor off limits – he thinks – so of course the late night pundits won’t joke about him.
Look to see this change when they realize he really is funny in his policies to cure the world and his fiscal policies that will redetribute wealth.
Avondale man shoots at armed robbers trying to take his baby
http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=b619dc9c-6734-4215-8eb0-74aed1b316e5
“An Avondale man shot at armed robbers Saturday night when they tried to take his infant during a robbery, according to a police report released Monday.”
Man protects self from potential thieves with gun
http://www.caller.com/news/2008/jul/07/man-protects-self-potential-gun/
“A Corpus Christi man found three men looking into his car early Saturday morning and shot at them in fear for his own safety, according to a police report.”
“The robbers ran away, and one was crawling on the ground as if he had been shot, according to Espinoza.”
I hope he nailed him.
heres some sappy 70’s music to make the bushbots disappear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCMVxDIDwkE
Ho, ho, ho
It’s magic, you know
Never believe it’s not so
It’s magic, you know
Never believe, it’s not so
Never been awake
Never seen a day break
Leaning on my pillow in the morning
Lazy day in bed
Music in my head
Crazy music playing in the morning light
Ho, ho, ho
It’s magic, you know
Never believe it’s not so
It’s magic, you know
Never believe, it’s not so
I love my sunny day
Dream of far away
Dreaming on my pillow in the morning
Never been awake
Never seen a day break
Leaning on my pillow in the morning light
Ho, ho, ho
It’s magic, you know
Never believe it’s not so
It’s magic, you know
Never believe, it’s not so
[Musical Interlude]
Ho, ho, ho
It’s magic, you know
Never believe it’s not so
It’s magic, you know
Never believe, it’s not so
The following Wichita businesses are amongst those collaborating with Tiller’s criminal late-term abortion mill, enabling and assisting and profiting by the contract killings:
Best Cabs, providing transportation; Diamond Security, providing armed guards; Docuforce, providing copying services; Hart Pharmacy, providing dangerous drugs and pain-killers; Holland Paving, providing parking lot repairs; Holiday Inn Select, providing special rates for Tiller’s victims; Intrust Bank, providing banking services; Lechner’s Landscape and Lawn Service, providing landscape services; McDaniel Co., providing fire sprinkler inspections; Physicians and Surgeons Exchange, providing answering service; Quest Diagnostics, providing blood tests and lab services; Simplex Time Recorder Co., providing remodeling services; Stericycle, providing medical waste services; Sunflower Travel, providing discount travel services to Tiller’s victims; University of Kansas and University of Kansas Medical School Wichita, allowing Tiller on faculty; Waste Management, providing trash service; Wesley Medical Center, allowing Tiller on staff with admitting privileges for his botched abortion victims; Wichita Country Club, allowing Tiller a membership; Wichita Fence Co., providing fence repairs; Williams Janitorial Supplies, providing cleaning supplies.
Boycott and picket ‘em at their homes and offices, and maybe at their children’s vacation Bible school.
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Wednesday, a Massachusetts grand jury, made up of baby-hating Senator Ted Kennedy’s neighbors, issued an indictment against abortionist quack Rapin Osathanondh for involuntary manslaughter in the botched abortion death of Laura Hope Smith in Hyannis, MA on September 13, 2007. In the process, a criminal cover-up conspiracy was exposed.
A sheriff’s deputy in another county had provided Osathanondh and his abortion mill staff with CPR training, then backdated the session to a date prior to Laura’s death, with the full knowledge that someone had recently died at the clinic. Osathanondh and his staff had been uncertified in CPR until that time.
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Indra Book, 19, of La Crosse, WI confessed she stopped breastfeeding her newborn daughter last August, two days after giving birth at home, knowing the infant would die. Book then put her daughter’s lifeless body in a cooler and, this spring, put it out with the garbage. Book was arrested Friday on charges of first-degree intentional homicide and hiding a corpse. The tiny body has not been recovered.
America’s Shooting Gallery 7.17
* KY: Videos provide glimpse of Ky. plant shooting
* MI: Detroit dad, son in critical condition after shooting
* MA: 3rd suspect arraigned in Worcester shooting
* IL: Teen’s Older Brother In Custody For Shooting Death
* CA: Gilroy man is suspect in fatal Palo Alto City Hall shooting
* MO: Double shooting at St. Louis area mall
* OH: Hurricane Katrina survivor, 17, charged in fatal Canton shooting
* CA: Woman Dies After Neighborhood Shooting
* AR: Six teens charged in Lumberton shooting death
* MI: Shooting In Battle Creek Sends 2 People To The Hospital
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) — President Bush has asserted executive privilege to prevent Attorney General Michael Mukasey from having to comply with a House panel subpoena for material on the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity.
A House committee chairman, meanwhile, held off on a contempt citation of Mukasey _ who had requested the privilege claim _ but only as a courtesy to lawmakers not present.
This administrations continues to show it’s contempt for Americans, Congress and Constitution …. not worth the distraction to impeach them now —- I hope Congress has balls enough to indict this administration for it’s lying and pilfering of the economy
Don’t forget
MCCAIN == BUSH
… I hope the new Congress has the bALLS ….
MCCAIN == BUSH
I wish.
Regular
Posted July 16, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink
Way too far Regular. Even for you. To accuse anyone of cheering a soldiers death is just tasteless.
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Just calling it like I see it. “Those who scavenge from the deaths of noble soldiers sacrificing their lives, deserve no quarter or respect from me.”
YOU MUST MEAN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TOO ….
Bush a C (at best) student at Yale
McCain 5th from the bottom of his Naval Academy Class…..
Dumb and Dumber redux ………..
Fleetwood — you need better goals —–
“Fleetwood — you need better goals —–”
Bush or McCain are better than Barack Hussein Obama.
McCain was not my first choice, but what are you gonna do?
George W. Bush = GWB = Global Warming Buffoon!!
John McCain = BJM = Bad Joke McCain
Oh wait, HE is the bad joke!! LOL
The only BAD thing about Obama, is the evil smear campaign being waged against him!!
Such as some Bozo’s here who try to perpetrate that Obama is 44% ARAB…
Anybody check to see how many Arabs come from KENYA??
Geez…
See the Evidence of SMEAR >>>>
https://pol.moveon.org/donate/foxsmears.html?rc=wexler2
Nathan queries >>>>
“Chas,
What is this “important line” to cross where people will be dealt with?”
That would libelous postings against another poster, using the REAL name of the other poster…
Nuff said??
Nathan — The legal term for that is called, among other things, Cyber Bullying…
Somebody rercently posted several pertinent “legal” definitions on the Blog for such activities… Dont remember who it was…. But it was posted on the Blog here…
fleettwood
Posted July 16, 2008 at 5:18 pm | Permalink
MCCAIN == BUSH
I wish.
—
If McCain ever gets any traction (and he ain’t yet), then I’m pretty sure you can make a trip to the plaque store. You won’t even have to squint come November, they’ll appear THAT similar. :wink:
I’m kinda surprised Obama’s minions ain’t pushin’ the MCCAIN == BUSH angle much harder than they have so far, it’s a sure winner for ‘em.
Ethnic groups in Kenya (CIA World Fact Book)
Kikuyu 22%, Luhya 14%, Luo 13%, Kalenjin 12%, Kamba 11%, Kisii 6%, Meru 6%, other African 15%, non-African (Asian, European, and Arab) 1%
Indie
Posted July 16, 2008 at 5:21 pm | Permalink
Regular
Posted July 16, 2008 at 11:55 am | Permalink
Way too far Regular. Even for you. To accuse anyone of cheering a soldiers death is just tasteless.
———————————-
Just calling it like I see it. “Those who scavenge from the deaths of noble soldiers sacrificing their lives, deserve no quarter or respect from me.”
YOU MUST MEAN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TOO …
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Some just fly over the top of your head Indie?
Or was that just another cogent thought passing over your head?
What an inspiring post. Thank you for the share…
SolDevVB, I looked at average yearly temperature data from Wichita, KS from 1889 to present. I chose the Wichita station because it stands out from the hundreds of stations in not having any missing points, even through the Great Depression. There appear to be well defined temperature cycles that match known ocean temperature oscillations like the PDO. I could find no evidence of a linear trend one way or the other.
“Mathematical Modeling of Annual Average Temperature Time Series Data From Wichita, KS, USA”
Very well done PDO. I like the PDO chart included.
Definitely a correlation over a period of time.
Looks like it may get cold in the next decade. :(
er very well done pdeep, not PDO. heh
Oh Parkay you so lie. UNCERTIFIED…meaning their CPR certifications lapsed. Woo. A technicality really. However they’ll get in trouble for falsifying a document. You show NOTHING that says they did anything wrong other than that. And its easy easy easy to do to let it lapse.
I’m going to start taking my dad to the Wichita Clinic so horray that its on your list. I didn’t like the Wichita Clinic but I’ll certainly go there now.
Good luck with some of that- and if you are terrorizing the children of workers, I will personally go and get every legislator except a select few to vote against you and make your lives hell. You’re making yourself as hated as Phelps. Congratulations to you and your whackjob buddies.
I use Wichita Clinic occasionally. I see Dr. Jan Hoffman in internal medicine. Very efficient and friendly staff.
CHICAGO – The Rev. Jesse Jackson used the N-word during a break in a TV interview where he criticized presidential candidate Barack Obama, Fox News confirmed Wednesday.
“The longtime civil rights leader already came under fire this month for crude off-air comments he made against Obama in what he thought was a private conversation during a taping of a “Fox & Friends” news show.”
(As in; ‘I’d like to cut his nuts off’)
Then he says; “I am deeply saddened and distressed by the pain and sorrow that I have caused as a result of my hurtful words. I apologize again to Senator Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, their children as well as to the American public,” Jackson said in a written statement.”
What a Bull Sh-t artist, how can anybody, not completely brain dead, take this guy for anything but a damn money grubbing hypocrite. He is an insult to everyone’s intelligence.
Well, on second thought…he is critical of Obama, that’s one thing he’s got absolutely right.
SolDevVB posted July 16, 2008 at 3:29 pm
“Take a look at the chart Ben posted. Look at the far right. You will see that CO2 has markedly increased, right in the middle of a temperature decrease. Explain?”
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Temperatures “today” cannot be shown properly on a small graph covering 350,000 years.
This graph with the last 1000 years shows it better.
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/historical03.jsp
Temperatures are not decreasing, except for short-term fluctuations caused by volcanoes, ENSO, etc.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig1_2007annual.gif
Aerosols from burning fossil-fuels, and volcanos caused cooling during the 1940 – 1970’s.
CO2 levels are still rising,
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/insitu.html
Recent CO2 data,
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/
Mary, I called you earlier today..check your phone.
OBAMA’S TROUBLING INTERNET FUND RAISING
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: June 29, 2008
http://us.f821.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.rand=2mdf50h63dhh1
Pay SPECIAL attention to the 5th. & 6th. paragraphs below.
“Certainly the most interesting and potentially devastating phone call I have received during this election cycle came this week from one of the Obama’s campaign internet geeks. These are the staffers who devised Obama’s internet fund raising campaign which raised in the neighborhood of $200 million so far. That is more then twice the total funds raised by any candidate in history – and this was all from the internet campaign.
What I learned from this insider was shocking but I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that when it comes to fund raising there simply are no rules that can’t be broken and no ethics that prevail.
Obama’s internet campaign started out innocently enough with basic e-mail networking , lists saved from previous party campaigns and from supporters who visited any of the Obama campaign web sites.
Small contributions came in from these sources and the internet campaign staff were more than pleased by the results.
Then, about two months into the campaign the daily contribution intake multiplied. Where was it coming from? One of the web site security monitors began to notice the bulk of the contributions were clearly coming in from overseas internet service providers and at the rate and frequency of transmission it was clear these donations were “programmed” by a very sophisticated user.
While the security people were not able to track most of the sources due to firewalls and other blocking devices put on these contributions they were able to collate the number of contributions that were coming in seemingly from individuals but the funds were from only a few credit card accounts and bank electronic funds transfers. The internet service providers (ISP) they were able to trace were from Saudi Arabia , Iran , and other Middle Eastern countries. One of the banks used for fund transfers was also located in Saudi Arabia .
Another concentrated group of donations was traced to a Chinese ISP with a similar pattern of limited credit card charges.
It became clear that these donations were very likely coming from sources other than American voters. This was discussed at length within the campaign and the decision was made that none of these donations violated campaign financing laws.
It was also decided that it was not the responsibility of the campaign to audit these millions of contributions as to the actual source (specific credit card number or bank transfer account numbers) to insure that none of these internet contributors exceeded the legal maximum donation on a cumulative basis of many small donations. They also found the record keeping was not complete enough to do it anyway.
This is a shocking revelation.
We have been concerned about the legality of “bundling” contributions after the recent exposure of illegal bundlers but now it appears we may have an even greater problem.
I guess we should have been somewhat suspicious when the numbers started to come out. We were told (no proof offered) that the Obama internet contributions were from $10.00 to $25.00 or so.
If the $200,000,000 is right, and the average contribution was $15.00, that would mean over 13 million individuals made contributions? That would also be 13 million contributions would need to be processed. How did all that happen?
I believe the Obama campaign’s internet fund raising needs a serious, in depth investigation and audit. It also appears the whole question of internet fund raising needs investigation by the legislature and perhaps new laws to insure it complies not only with the letter of these laws but the spirit as well.”
A right-wing extremist exhibits many, but not necessarily all, of the following attributes:
–believes that America is always, in every instance, the ultimate force of moral authority in the world.
–believes that Saddam Hussein was linked to 9/11 ??even if not directly, he was just that sort of guy.
–sees transnational non-governmental groups like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International as the next threats to U.S. sovereignty. Calls them Transies, derisively.
–dosn??’t hold a passport, as a matter of principle: theres nothing over there except depravity.
–believes that capitalism creates perfect justice, and that any attempt to tax or regulate it constitutes ??social engineering. (Doesn’t believe in evolution, but does believe in social darwinism.)
–believes global warming is a left-wing myth.
–believes in the Second Amendment to the Constitution, but has some ??problems? with the First.
–believes that any form of universal health insurance is socialism, even the tax credit system first proposed by the Heritage Foundation.
–believes that there are inferior races.
–believes that there are inferior religions.
–believes in a global conspiracy led by Jewish bankers, Hollywood executives and journalists.
–believes, despite the above, that Israel is absolutely wonderful, and that when it achieves full dominion over its Biblical lands especially Judea and Samaria?? great battle will be fought and Jesus will descend from the clouds.
–believes that homosexuals are condemned to hell.
–only receives news from Fox or right-wing radio talk show hosts.
–believes Hillary Clinton is a dangerous radical.
That would be a good start, Annie!!
So which is it, “Boxlock?” –
Are you a dupe or a liar?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/donations.asp
First off, Maureene Dowd didn’t write that piece of
trashfiction you cut-and-posted. (That was obvious; no snark.)And all of the information in the pseudo-Dowd piece is factually wrong.
Boxlock has a strong malcontented point of posting LIES… He will then say he didnt check it out, and that he needs to do better next time… I dont believe it!!
ANTI posted July 15, 2008 at 9:44 pm
“Wheeew!
Back from the Artic. I bashed the bah-jesus out of about 50 baby seals near as I can tell! Good times….”
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ANTI, your trip to Antarctica to “bash” the “bah-jesus” out of baby penguin chicks will probably be cancelled.
‘Something Strange is Happening at the Coldest, Driest Place on Earth’
http://www.desmogblog.com/something-strange-is-happening-in-the-coldest-driest-place-on-earth
“For someone who has experienced “freaky weather” in the Antarctic up close and personal, reports this week that baby Antarctic penguins are freezing to death due to “freak rain storms,” came as no surprise.
Fellow explorer Jon Bowermaster had this to say:
“Everyone talks about the melting of the glaciers but having day after day of rain in Antarctica is a totally new phenomenon. As a result, penguins are literally freezing to death.” ”
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More details at link.
Once again, Dan Perkins & I are on the same page.
http://action.credomobile.com/comics/2008/07/obama_phenomena.html
Thank you kindly, Regular!
Hey look! Another cartoon to be outraged about!
http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2008/04/03/boll/
Good one Rage… But… but… Didnt we just read a bunch of that cartoon on this very Blog in the past few days?? Hark! even this very evening!!
pdeep posted July 16, 2008 at 11:51 pm
“Thank you kindly, Regular!”
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pdeep, maybe you can help mult-nic’d ‘Regular’ prove his ridiculous belief that climate scientists have a global conspiracy that has FALSIFIED the CO2 data?
And also provide link(s) to Clark’s and Patterson’s peer-reviewed papers refuting AGW?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-715-2/#comment-384321
ANTI: “I bashed the bah-jesus out of about 50 baby seals near as I can tell! Good times….”
You only killed about 50?
‘The baby Antarctic penguins being frozen to death by freak rain storms’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1034590/The-baby-Antarctic-penguins-frozen-death-freak-rain-storms.html
“Tens of thousands of newly-born penguins are freezing to death as Antarctica is lashed by freak rain storms.
Scientists believe the numbers of Adelie penguins may have fallen by as much as 80 per cent – and, if the downpours continue, the species will be extinct within ten years.”
More, and photos at link.
How about you all at least play ball on the same playing field??
NOTE >>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_reviewed
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Chas
Posted July 17, 2008 at 12:21 am | Permalink
How about you all at least play ball on the same playing field??
NOTE >>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_reviewed
Drummond Rennie, deputy editor of Journal of the American Medical Association is an organizer of the International Congress on Peer Review and Biomedical Publication, which has been held every four years since 1986.[9] He remarks, “There seems to be no study too fragmented, no hypothesis too trivial, no literature too biased or too egotistical, no design too warped, no methodology too bungled, no presentation of results too inaccurate, too obscure, and too contradictory, no analysis too self-serving, no argument too circular, no conclusions too trifling or too unjustified, and no grammar and syntax too offensive for a paper to end up in print.
Chas,
Play ball on the same field?
Ok.
What are yours and Cosmos’s credentials related to climate science and what peer revied papers have either of you written on AGW that you would like to present for our review here?
“Nathaniel” –
Why does “HLP” call you “Boy?”
Is it a Tarzan thing?
What would you like to present here Nathan?
You are in the minority in denying global warming. It is on you to plead your case.
You, Nathan are a trained Marine. Implicit in that training is to surrender your individuality.
Which of course you did BEFORE you ever joined the Marines. Giving up yourself to please your father.
And of course your father is where he is because “God” has ordained it so.
At least according to him. Oh, and you.
Now if you are going to use “God said so!”
You need to get the almighty in touch with me.
I’ll give him an audience. My existence is not in doubt. His is.
MonkeyHawk,
I don’t think there is much of a reason to it. Nothing I could lay out in writing as if there were some grand decision making process and reason for.
Just a name. What does it matter?
BlueJay,
I am not sure how to respond to such random incoherent ramblings.
Nathaniel,
Perhaps you can help your friend, multi-nic’d ‘Regular’, by providing proof, and answering my question here?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-715-2/#comment-384321
Naaaah… all that Nathaniel can do is loudly proclaim that he “beleives” the hundreds of (non-existent) climate scientists who disagree with AGW.
Nathaniel doesn’t have ANY names of scientists who have actually done ANY science refuting AGW.
But Nathaniel does have a list from the lying agricultural ECONOMIST, Dennis Avery. And from Rush’s buddy, Marc Morano. LOL!
And I’m not sure whether to hate you or feel sorry for you Nathan.
It really is rather simple. YOU called on others to present their case. I have asked you to present yours.
Most of the thinking amongst us? Well we don’t operate on “God says so!” Let alone Dad says so.
As you do?
Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ posted,
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-716-2/#comment-384899
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Despite that, you people still can’t get your anti-AGW lies and nonscientific nonsense published in credible climate journals.
You people have to instead publish(sic) in WSJ op-eds, web-only Canadian newspapers, fossil-fuel funded think(sic) tanks, obscure web pages, etc.
Nathaniel
Posted July 17, 2008 at 12:31 am | Permalink
Chas,
Play ball on the same field?
Ok.
What are yours and Cosmos’s credentials related to climate science and what peer revied papers have either of you written on AGW that you would like to present for our review here?
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Nathan, how can you be so DAMNED DUMB?? I posted an article from Wiki, so all you Global Warming debaters could use a common playing field… I have no interest in that debate… How many times do I have to post on here… I am NO SCIENTIST… I just observe what is written, and watch and see what happens…
Now, do you all think you can at least play on the same playing field (not BALL field) and use the same RULES when you want to talk about Peer Review??
Thank you….
Nathaniel,
Please note that I am asking you a question.
Do you, Nathaniel, believe that the agricultural economist Dennis Avery is a credible source re climate science?
If yes, please explain why you believe that — without using personal ad hominems at me.
‘Dennis Avery’
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Dennis_Avery
‘Heartland Still Misrepresenting 500 Scientists as “Co-authors” of Denial Paper’
http://www.desmogblog.com/heartland-still-misrepresenting-500-scientists-as-co-authors-of-denial-paper
Good night; good luck; God bless —-
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
So mote it be!!
Last thought: WHY is it that when one reads a large bit of content on the Blog, that Franklin is always right, and everybody else is WRONG?? (As Franklin interprets it, of course) LOL
Must be nice on that top branch…. oooops what out for the squirrrrrrrrrreeeeellllllllllll!!!
Didnt we just read a bunch of that cartoon on this very Blog in the past few days?? Hark! even this very evening!!
Well, can’t claim to read it all, all the time, ya know. Besides, look at this:
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Monkeyhawk
Posted July 16, 2008 at 7:10 am | Permalink
“okobserver” –
Find it here:
http://tinyurl.com/5hdj5n
The link redirects to “Rum, Romanism and Rebellion,” a blog run by a guy in. . .Tucson, Arizona.
When someone in Kansas catches that before I do, that’s a sign it’s time to tend to the home front. :)
”
It is a bit of a stretch to claim three centuries of awareness of greenhouse gases contributing to a possible climate warming effect is several centuries old. I think it was Arrhenius who actually made a public case of it, in just a bit over century and a decade ago.
[Jerry Mahlman]
”
Status
Noted. Text has been edited.
Emphisis mine.
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
Why does the IPCC feel the need to lie about simple facts?
”
One could quibble with the idea that “observations … are the foundation of our science”, since
the whole IPCC enterprise is motivated by the theory of global warming due to increasing greenhouse gases.
I’d suggest changing “the foundation” to “a foundation”.
[Dian Seidel]
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Status:
Accepted. Text has been edited.
Emphasis mine.
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html
Why doesn’t the IPCC publically admit that it is a politically motivated and targeted organization? They accepted the above statement didn’t they?
Take a look at the chart Ben posted. Look at the far right. You will see that CO2 has markedly increased, right in the middle of a temperature decrease. Explain?
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=41&tstamp=200709
You stated yesterday that the temps could not be posted accurately. So are all the readings wrong? It is quite obvious that CO2 took an enormous spike as temperatures dropped. You could argue that they fluctuated, but that still proves the point, CO2 drastically increases and temperatures did not follow.
I am not a scientist, but to the average lay person, it doesn’t look like CO2 drives temperature.
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
“Obama’s donation website accepts illegal foreign contributions”
http://directblue.blogspot.com/2008/05/obamas-donation-website-accepts-illegal.html
“Barack Obama’s electronic contribution site (https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/abroadHP — not hyperlinked for obvious reasons) accepts donations from countries like China, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Somalia — although someone had the sense to remove North Korea from the list. The donor is only required to click a check-box, which attests they are legally allowed to contribute.
No other presidential candidate allows such an easy channel for illegal campaign contributions. For example, John McCain and Hillary Clinton do not accept donations from abroad without a complete, written documentation packet sent via postal mail.
It would seem to me that Obama’s form is in direct violation of federal law. I think we should demand an accounting of these foreign contributions and his campaign should follow precedent by requiring documentation of legal status for foreign donors.”
http://icantforthelifeofmefigureouthowacandidateschoiceoflapeljewelrymakesadifference,/
BlueJay, Lefty’s boy, Idiot.
Kinda funny that the link doesn’t work today. Hmmm… Worked fine all day long yesterday.
Your link doesn’t provide the comments, or I couldn’t find the comments listed.
The proof of the lies is in my previous posts. The lies were spotted by “Joe Shmoe” and corrected.
You had access to the links yesterday. You had access to the chapter, page, and line. Guess you’ll have to wait for the link to come back up. The lies, though, are still on this blog.
Your first graph stops at 1998. The hottest year in the past 100.
The second graph is unreadable.
The third graph does not show temp and is only from Hawaii.
I’m not going to clog up today’s open thread with this garbage. The link worked yesterday or I would not have been able to post what I did. I will keep checking it.
The link I provided gave the chapter, page and line of the draft. You will be able to reference them when the link is working.
To state that
“Over the last decade global land-surface sets have been able to increase the number of
stations substantially”
and be corrected by “Joe Some” that in fact
“There has been a substantial reduction in the number of stations since 1980. see T C Peterson and R S Vose 1997 “An Overview of the Global Historical Climatology Network Temperature Database” Bulletin of the Royal Meteorological Society Vol 78, pages 2837-2849.”
is lying. If it is not lying, then something even worse is true, the ‘peer reviewed’ papers are lies. Or is it that the IPCC has a problem with facts? Transferring those facts to the report?
http://www.google.com/search?q=IPCC+comments&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GFRC
WG1 AR4 CommentsIn accordance with IPCC procedures, past practice has been to distribute copies of review comments and corresponding author responses on request after …
ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html – 2k –
Can’t imagine why they would pull this link. Hmmmmm.
SolDevVB posted July 17, 2008 at 1:40 pm
“ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Comments/wg1-commentFrameset.html – 2k –
Can’t imagine why they would pull this link. Hmmmmm.”
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Notice anything in common between your old broken link, and this one?
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/
“Access to reviewers’ comments and the authors’ responses to those comments.
(offsite link to Harvard College Library) “
When I stumbled on that link yesterday, it opened a disclaimer page. You accept the terms and you enter the index. You could review the drafts and the comments. You get me to a page like that and we’re on.
What a crappy set up at the link you provided.
Here is one
http://pds.lib.harvard.edu/pds/view/7794905?action=jp2zoomout&imagesize=1200&jp2x=-1&jp2y=-1&jp2Res=0.25&rotation=0&n=19&op=j&bbx1=0&bby1=0&bbx2=94&bby2=94&zoomout.x=11&zoomout.y=10
Last entry. Completed on the next page.
Outright lie. Either a lie or they present ‘facts’ with out anything to back it up. Kinda like you.
I’m not drilling through the rest of that f’ed up website. You have the text of the lies here on this page. You want to say they aren’t lies? Go dig it up.
I’ll check back here for your response tomorrow cosmos.
Hey C-O-S-M-O-S….oh cosmos, what ya gone’a do now?
“Considerable presence” of skeptics
The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming. The APS is also sponsoring public debate on the validity of global warming science. The leadership of the society had previously called the evidence for global warming “incontrovertible.”
In a posting to the APS forum, editor Jeffrey Marque explains,”There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution.”
http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm
Does this mean we should…just maybe, build a couple of power plants we need, taking advantage of the cheapest, an one of the most abundant, source of energy we have.
Not to rub it in of course, but…ha, ha, ha, I love it.
Not that conservation and alternate sources of energy are not valuable endeavors, but the AGW/CO2 hysteria is finally coming to a head.
And I thought it would be several more years, silly me.
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Boxlock
Posted July 17, 2008 at 8:59 pm | Permalink
Oh, and one more thing;
“According to Monckton, there is substantial support for his results, “in the peer-reviewed literature, most articles on climate sensitivity conclude, as I have done, that climate sensitivity must be harmlessly low.”
Monckton, who was the science advisor to Britain’s Thatcher administration, says natural variability is the cause of most of the Earth’s recent warming. “In the past 70 years the Sun was more active than at almost any other time in the past 11,400 years … Mars, Jupiter, Neptune’s largest moon, and Pluto warmed at the same time as Earth.”
Get that, ‘peer reviewed’, that all important aspect of cosmos’s life.
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Boxlock
Posted July 17, 2008 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
Sorry cosmos, but you have ask for and deserve it.
http://www.aps.org/
“APS Climate Change Statement
APS Position Remains Unchanged
The American Physical Society reaffirms the following position on climate change, adopted by its governing body, the APS Council, on November 18, 2007:
“Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate.”
An article at odds with this statement recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS. The header of this newsletter carries the statement that “Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum.” This newsletter is not a journal of the APS and it is not peer reviewed.
Read: APS Climate Change Statement”
http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/07_1.cfm
Boxlock posted July 17, 2008 at 9:03 pm
“Hey C-O-S-M-O-S….oh cosmos, what ya gone’a do now?
“Considerable presence” of skeptics
The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming.”
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‘Climate Sensitivity Reconsidered’
By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/monckton.cfm
“The following article has not undergone any scientific peer review. Its conclusions are in disagreement with the overwhelming opinion of the world scientific community. The Council of the American Physical Society disagrees with this article’s conclusions.”
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H/T to a comment at,
‘JunkScience Lies: APS Offers Respectful Correction‘
http://www.desmogblog.com/junkscience-lies-aps-offers-respectful-correction