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Open thread 7/14
- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted July 14, 2008 at 6:04 a.m.
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Global Warming for Fun and Profit?
Email from Jim Peden:
As one of the Ancient Ones – old enough to remember the Cold War, Race for Space, Missile Gap, and a dozen other high priority panics that opened the floodgates for research funding, it’s easy to see how the great Global Warming Hoax has penetrated every corner of science. As Willie Sutton, the bank robber, replied when asked why he robbed banks, “because that’s where the money is”.
Recently I stumbled across a Defense Technical Information Center paper via the web on which I was listed as co-author. I must confess I had not seen the paper in public before this year, perhaps it had been classified for many decades. What amused me was the abstract and the descriptors:
Corporate Author : EXTRANUCLEAR LABS INC PITTSBURGH PA
Personal Author(s) : Fite, W. L. ; Garcia, J. D. ; Gerjuoy, E. ; Peden, J. A.
Report Date : MAY 1969
Abstract : Experimental data on heavy particle collisions of relevance to atomic weapons debris motion are critically reviewed with emphasis on electron capture-and-loss cross-section measurements and possible systematic errors attending the experiments. Discrepancies of the order of 50 percent can be understood on the basis of differences in experiments. Four phenomenological theories (Rapp and Francis, Firsov, Firsov-Russek, and Classical Binary Encounter) are summarized and critically evaluated for applicability to heavy particle collisions. The predictions of these theories are compared with experimental data. A theorem pertinent to energy distributions in electron-ion collision experiments is presented. The report concludes with recommendations on future informational needs. (Author)
Descriptors : (*NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS, FISSION PRODUCTS), (*FISSION PRODUCTS, PARTICLE TRAJECTORIES), ATMOSPHERES, ION BEAMS, ION EXCHANGE, ELECTRON CAPTURE, IONIZATION, MATHEMATICAL MODELS, NUCLEAR CROSS SECTIONS, IONS.
Atomic weapons debris motion? Nuclear Explosions? I recall not a mention of these items by anyone at the time. Oh yeah, I forget… in those days any grant proposal had to have the appropriate buzzwords relating to National Defense. Heaven forbid anyone wanting to study electron capture-and-loss cross-section measurements for the sole purpose of advancing our knowledge of those subjects.
Today there is a new Golden Fleece hanging on the tree, and anyone with half a science diploma can become a member of Jason’s merry band of Argonauts. Just make sure that your proposal is directed toward finding yet another contributor to anthropogenic global warming. From Cow Farts to Whales Singing Off-Key, the field is wide open as long as you observe a few simple rules:
1. Your results must support AGW, otherwise your grant won’t be renewed.
2. If your data doesn’t support your predetermined conclusion, change the data.
3. The one with the shortest date to Armageddon gets the biggest bucks.
I confess I miss the good old days when the Soviet Union, not our own Government, was our official enemy. Our race to the moon ( OK, the Soviets actually didn’t have a horse in that race) at least netted us a lot of great spinoffs, like freeze dried foods for our backpacking trips. The current AGW-driven system nets the ordinary taxpayer absolutely nothing except a negative feedback wallet and maybe an eventual collapse of the entire economy.
The short-term profits are enormous, and for a while at least, the incompetent and dishonest “scientists” of the world will be able to enjoy a reasonably regular paycheck. But in the end, it must all eventually collapse like the dot-com bubble, with the sad end result being that anyone wearing the title of scientist will likely be viewed with the same respect as a junk bond trader.
Maybe we few, we band of dissenting brothers and sisters will be remembered as not being part of the hoax, but I’m taking no chances. I just bought a case of potato chips, and I’m going to examine every one with a magnifying glass. Statistically speaking, there ought to be at least one chip with a reasonably credible likeness of some high-level saint I can sell for big bucks on Ebay.
First, the government creates a backstop for the mortgage industry in fanny and freddie, the system starts falling apart, and now the taxpayers get to bolster the system with handouts (2.25%). Somethings wrong here. http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/462626.html
Today the Federal Reserve will publish new rules for home lenders. Among the proposals, which lenders have opposed, are:
Require lenders to verify income and assets.
Prohibit them from engaging in a “pattern or practice” of making loans borrowers can’t afford
Limit prepayment penalties.
Require lenders to establish escrow accounts for taxes and insurance.
Also, for all loans regardless of rate, the regulator would ban the practice of allowing banks to pay brokers for steering homeowners into higher-priced loans, unless that compensation was disclosed in advance. And it would prohibit brokers from coercing appraisers into misstating a home’s value.
The lending industry of course claims such restrictions are “too invasive.”
Hey soos.
Its been awhile since I posted here. I wanted to comment on the Fannie Mae Company. In 1995 I was placed on disability for a Liver/Blood disorder. In 1997 I was given a perminent disability statis. This placed my student loans in deferment. It also granted me a deferment certificate. My loans were written off. I then filed for a stimulis check this year. Well, now they tell me they took it to pay back a loan that was written off in 1997 and they are going to take 15% of my monthly checks to finish paying the written off loan. They sold the written of loan to another company just before the stimulis plan was passed. They said they dont have to honor the deferment certificate. This is typical Bush, B.S.!!! Thanks again Herbert West 3rd. http://www.HerbertWest3rd.com http://www.wen2k.com http://www.west.herb@yahoo.com
The Guardian mentions in it’s blog posts to-day that the hostile reaction of the British audience to-wards the USA during a BBC interview-talk show program, brought the US Ambassador to tears. I once heard that Bush would not address the Canadian Parliament for fear of the same reaction during his State visit sometime ago. Don’t think he would have cried though……….well, maybe.
HerbertWest, how can you be on disability and hold down the Sheriff job?
Ah, the good old U.S.A. The only country in the world except for Israel that can complain about missile tests while firing missiles at people.
Rightangle, I have improved in my health. I am still sick but am improving greatly. The Americans With Disabilites Act provides rules and policy by Law for me to be eligible for election and training. They had a gentleman go thru the Police Academy in a wheelchair and pass. My agility is shot. My heart and brains are intact. My desire to help and secure Miami County has not faultered. Thanks for asking, Herbert West 3rd. http://www.HerbertWest3rd.com http://www.wen2k.com http://www.west.herb@yahoo.com Thanks again, to http://www.homestead.com for my domain and website service.
John Prine is reading the WE Blog?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y_GuFjxM5Y&NR=1
My oldest son gave me John Prine Fair & Square for Christmas year before last. This was one of my favorites! The CD had gotten to the bottom of a stack and I hadn’t listened to it in too long so thanks Steven. Now I’ll listen to the whole CD!
Have you ever noticed
When you’re feeling really good
There’s always a pigeon
That’ll come s**t on your hood
Or you’re feeling your freedom
And the world’s off your back
Some cowboy from Texas
Starts his own war in Iraq
Some humans ain’t human
Some people aren’t kind
If you are well enough to run for sherrif, you’re well enough to work. Quit sapping the programs for those who are really sick Herb.
I found this Reuters article on the Fannie Freddie situation interesting.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1332789320080714?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&sp=true
Linda,
Fair and Square is a good collection. Here is a cover of my favorite from that CD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf2dl7jo_bU
“My body’s in this room with you just catching hell
While my soul is drinking beer down the road a spell
You might think I’m listening to your grocery list
But I’m leaning on the jukebox and I’m about half … way there
“A clown puts his makeup on upside down
So he wears a smile even when he wears a frown
You might think I’m here when you put me down
But actually I’m on the other side of town.”
He is one of the greats! He gives us the words we’re hard pressed to find describing what we feel and go through in life.
Thanks for the article on Fanny and Freddy. We hear about China holding so much of our debt. I believe Japan holds the most, so they probably are nervous about the fate of Fan and Fred.
I am not familiar with how it works, but read recently the people who are doing okay in the stock market are “short sellers”. In this process you essentially bet against the market doing well and that is how you make your money. There was a rumor, which I don’t know if it was based on anything, that some short-sellers did real well right after the 9/11 attacks – some wondered if those folks had fore-knowledge of the attacks.
How long do you think our elected officials (ALL of them) will putz around playing political games on who does what and doesn’t?
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Bush to lift ban on exploring for oil in OCS
“In his statement, the president will announce that he has decided to lift the executive ban on oil exploration in America’s Outer Continental Shelf,” Perino said. “He’ll again call on Congress to lift its legislative ban.
“It has been nearly a month since the president urged the Congress to act to expand environmentally friendly and responsible exploration for American energy. Congress has not moved forward, despite calls from constituents and the continued pressure of record high energy prices,” she said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSWBT00939720080714
OK, last one.
Have you all seen the intended parody from “The New Yorker” magazine? Those who are McCain supporters will love it, most others (no matter who they support) won’t. But everyone can take a look at it so they know what they’re discussing.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/14/obama-camp-slams-satirical-new-yorker-magazine-cover/
absolutely loved reading your article…
I lied. I found an article describing the positions of both Senators McCain and Obama on the presidential lifting of the ban on offshore drilling. (Of course they could both change their stated positions — they both seem really good at doing just that!)
http://www.google.com/ig?source=gama&hl=en
Linda,
I thought the parody was hysterically funny! It seemed obvious to me that the folks being skewered were the Boxlock, Max and Franklin types of this world.
If one is satirizing bigotry, the end product just might not be in “good taste.”
Maybe Obama supporters need to develop a sense of humor. Just saying…
BTW, I think Michelle looks pretty regardless, but she might would look pretty good in an Angela Davis styled Afro.
Woman, .357 blazing, chases intruders from home
http://www.ocala.com/article/20080710/NEWS/216986732/0/VOZLATINA
“OCALA – Firing a .357-caliber handgun until it was empty, an Ocala woman chased two intruders from her home in the 3800 block of Southeast 68th Street on Wednesday morning.”
In the 18 months since President Bush announced the surge, our troops have performed heroically in bringing down the level of violence. New tactics have protected the Iraqi population, and the Sunni tribes have rejected Al Qaeda — greatly weakening its effectiveness.
On second thought, there is a secretary where I work who will not vote for Obama because of the email rumors she received. When she told me this, I couldn’t restrain myself, I just beat my head on her desk. If she didn’t think I was crazy before, she does now.
Maybe parody is too subtle for people like that!
“Nathaniel” —
* TN: A 9-year-old Bessemer boy was killed in what police called an unintentional shooting. The boy and several other children were playing with the weapon when it discharged, striking the youngster in the head.
* MN: A man went to his ex-girlfriend’s house and shot and killed her then killed himself in the alley. Authorities say the ex-girlfriend’s six-year-old son was injured by gunshot but it is not clear if the man shot the kid or if he got caught in gunfire. Two other young children were at the home and witnessed the shooting. Those children were not hurt. The woman had a history of domestic violence with the man who killed her.
* OK: Murder-suicide is believed to be the cause of death after the bodies of Joey Trammell, 26, and Reno Jones, 27, were found inside their home. A gun was found next to Joey’s body who died of gunshot wounds. A toddler inside the home was unharmed.
* MI: A 15-year-old Muskegon youth, Lamonte Trotter, has been charged with shooting Antonio D. Keenan, 18, in the face during an argument. Keenan was admitted to a local hospital.
* IL: Robert White, 26, was shot and killed and another man, 25, was critically injured in a shooting Thursday night in the Southwest Side’s Beverly neighborhood.
* CA: San Mateo County coroner identified three men killed in a triple shooting as: Freddie Omar Bustos-Bustos, 23, from Fresno, and Jose Guadelupe Aleman-Dominguez, 33, from Riverside, and Jorge Guzman Reynaga, 26.
* NE: Tears flow as teen describes night boyfriend shot her mom.
* KY: Testimony is underway in the trail for Jamie Barnett, who stands charged with the murder of Clay City Police Chief Randy Lacy. Lacy was shot and killed by his own gun. Investigators say Barnett was in the back seat of the cruiser.
* MN: Percy Melton pled guilty to first-degree criminal sexual conduct after kidnapping and raping a woman at gunpoint in Minneapolis in February. He will spend 25 years in prison.
* AZ: A 16-year-old male has died from multiple gunshot wounds he suffered early Friday morning, according to Yuma police. The victim has been identified as Octavio Acosta.
Hank,
Isn’t it true, that we are paying the Sunni insurgents to not fight? Heck, wouldn’t you stop blogging here if the government would gave you check to abstain from writing? Pretty sure I would.
Wonder what’s going to happen when the checks stop?
Also, do you think that Iraq can achieve a sustainable stability as long as our forces are there? I do not.
I suppose you could argue that the current situation = stability. I think it is pseudo-stability, that will change when the checks stop.
One last thing, I read where McCain said some time ago that when the Iraqi government asked us to leave, that should do so, even if we did not think it a good idea. They are asking us to leave now. Has McCain changed his position?
No links MonkeyHawk?
I’m guessing you pulled that little summary off some anti-gun website.
An “frontover” accident happened in Wichita, Kan., in February when the driver of a Chevy Avalanche in a drive-through lane stopped to let a 3-year-old and his grandmother pass. The driver said he did not see the boy’s twin, who was following, walking in the blind zone. The car pulled forward and the child was killed.
It would be easy to write off as a freak accident, but the numbers and the faces of other children killed in this same kind of accident tell a different story.
“It’s not like anyone did it on purpose, but because we keep preferring the higher, the wider, the longer vehicles, when you do that, you keep increasing the amount of your blind zone,” said Janette Fennel with Kids & Cars. “Seventy percent of the cases it is a family member who takes that child’s life, and I don’t know how it can get any worse.”
Slow-moving front- and backover accidents happen more than 2,400 times a year, according to a Centers for Disease Control study, and most victims aren’t more than 1 year old.
http://www.kidsandcars.org/
Car Crash Stats: There were nearly 6,420,000 auto accidents in the United States in 2005. The financial cost of these crashes is more than 230 Billion dollars. 2.9 million people were injured and 42,636 people killed. About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States — one death every 13 minutes.
In 2003 there were 6,328,000 car accidents in the US. There were 2.9 million injuries and 42,643 people were killed in auto accidents.
In 2002, there were an estimated 6,316,000 car accidents in the USA. There were about 2.9 million injuries and 42,815 people were killed in auto accidents in 2002.
There were an estimated 6,356,000 car accidents in the US in 2000. There were about 3.2 million injuries and 41,821 people were killed in auto accidents in 2000 based on data collected by the Federal Highway Administration.
http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/stats.html
Suspected copper thief shot by Garland store owner’s son
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/071108dnmetgarland.3f76b2d5.html
“The business owner’s son, identified by police as Sunny Sheu, had been guarding the roof after the store had been recently hit by copper thieves.”
Total Road Deaths in the USA
2001 42,196
2002 43,005
2003 42,884
2004 42,636
Fatalities per 100 Million Vehicle Miles Traveled (the ‘VMT rate’)
2001 1.51
2002 1.51
2003 1.48
2004 1.46
Fatalities per 100,000 Population (the ‘per capita’ rate)
2001 14.80
2002 14.94
2003 14.75
2004 14.52
Fatalities per 10,000 Registered Vehicles
2001 19.07
2002 19.06
2003 18.58
2004 18.00
http://www.driveandstayalive.com/info%20section/statistics/stats-usa.htm
Good morning Steven,
I thought the satire was very funny too. Of course, for any satire to be funny there needs to be an element of truth involved.
I think the liberals are missing the point on why the conservatives don’t like Obama. It’s because he’s the most liberal nitwit in the Senate. Not because he doesn’t have any experience.
Hank,
We enjoyed the parody for different reasons. I think the target of the satire were those who believe the email rumors. Any way…
Did you or others see this WashPost editorial? I think E.J. Dionne, Jr. was channeling the thoughts of Cap’n America and J R.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/10/AR2008071002264.html?nav=hcmoduletmv
HLP
Posted July 14, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink
Good morning Steven,
I think the liberals are missing the point on why the conservatives don’t like Obama. It’s because he’s the most liberal nitwit in the Senate. Not because he doesn’t have any experience.
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Well actually HLP, no, he’s not. But don’t let that stop your usual barrage of BS.
Honestly, it’s hard to tell who are the worst liars, the Republicans, or the Democrats. But HLP takes the prize for being one of the most delusional.
HLP, be sure to call me a nitwit. That seems to be your greatest contribution to this blog.
Obama: Most Liberal Senator In 2007
http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/
Obama Ranked Most Liberal Senator in 2007
http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/01/obama_ranked_most_liberal_sena_1.html
We’re not leaving Iraq, be it McCain or Obama. Jim Cramer is saying “sell everything, the market is doomed!”. The U.S. economy is toast and we, because of the flooding, will have a “food shortage”. This is a “perfect storm”. But there’s always global warming to talk about.
But on to more important news, the U.S. vanity girl fell down during the very crucial, “evening gown segment”.
I had an idea that might have been posted here before. Why not close threads after say 4 – 7 days? A lot of the spam posts cover older threads. The current one month is far longer than needed.
Especially when most threads disintegrate into nothing within a few hours.
For that matter, why not close ‘Open Thread’ each day when a new one is made. . .
I would imagine the spam would simply infect the current threads.
Dear Nano,
I’ve not called anyone on the BLOG a name for a while. However, you know in your heart if you are one or not.
If you can’t come up with a more liberal senator and the reason why, well then. . .
You don’t have much to dontribute other than personal attacks, do you?
“Did you or others see this WashPost editorial? I think E.J. Dionne, Jr. was channeling the thoughts of Cap’n America and J R.”
LOL!!
That’s too bad, by the time Dionne gets a thought from JR or the Cap’n. they’re already second or third hand. Pretty worn out by the time they get channeled by Dionne!
I found this perspective on the saber rattling from both Israel and the U.S. interesting. I have no false hopes the idiot in charge will do anything that is wise. His track record doesn’t indicate he cares about America let alone the world.
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World ‘would rue’ attack on Iran
“Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has said that a military attack on Iran over its nuclear programme would cost the world dearly.”
“The Syrian president, who is in Paris for an EU-Mediterranean summit, added that the US administration did not appear to share his fear of the disastrous consequences of an attack.”
“This administration is an administration whose doctrine is a warmonger’s doctrine. It does not reason with our logic, ours and that of most European countries, most countries in the world,” Assad said.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7505426.stm
Unintentional injuries from firearms represent less than two percent of all firearm deaths in the U.S. But of this two percent, children and adolescents are involved in 55% of these deaths. The majority of the injuries occur to children playing with or showing the weapons to friends. The easy availability of firearms is believed to be the number one risk factor for unintentional firearm deaths.
http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm
Bush to Lift Executive Ban on Offshore Oil Drilling
WASHINGTON — President Bush will lift an executive ban on offshore oil drilling, although new oil exploration on the Outer Continental Shelf will remain off limits until Congress also takes action.
The president will make a Rose Garden statement on Monday, where he is expected to announce his lifting of the ban.
Watch President Bush speak Live at 1:30 p.m. ET on FOX News Channel.
White House press secretary Dana Perino says Bush is acting now in hopes of spurring Congress to act. So far, lawmakers have shown no interest in doing so.
Bush and a growing number of lawmakers have been calling for broader options in dealing with rising energy costs, including $4 per gallon gasoline.
The Outer Continental Shelf has been a particularly hot debate, with the Bush administration saying new drilling technology would make U.S. shores safe from environmental disaster while helping to drive down prices with greater supplies.
Democrats say energy companies already have plenty of space to look for oil and have stalled on investing in more oil production while reaping record profits.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381761,00.html
DavidB,
That is why I support gun safety education being taught in school.
It is not just the availability of guns, it is that children who are confronted with a gun don’t understand the dangers involved with one.
Not to trivialize the issue, but less than 200 kids are killed this way each year.
Considering that there are over 80 million gun owners with over 300 million guns, that is a pretty good statistic.
Good thing the right of centers love their candidates so much that they are shouting his praises to the heavens, rather than trying to tear down Senator Obama!
DavidB,
Make no mistake, I admit that I don’t like McCain all that much.
I like McCain far more than I do Obama though.
My vote is a vote against Obama this year, not for McCain.
So what?
“Nathaniel” imparts –
“…less than 200 kids are killed [by handguns] each year… that is a pretty good statistic.”
Darwin’s theory, right?
I don’t know any more. . .Obama has run so far to the right McCain might actually be to the left of him now!
Did ya here that the Hillary supporters want a floor vote at the convention?
HEHEHEHEHE ! !
Nathan:
I can appreciate your idea about introducing children to guns in a spirit contrary to Forbidden Fruit.
To a certain extent, children’s curiosity has been know to kill the proverbial cat. That may apply to guns as well.
But, I am still on the same venue as last week. I still don’t see a reason to expose children to guns until it is appropriate. Similar to explaining the facts of life to a child until it is appropriate.
If you would like to discuss the appropriate age to show a child a gun, that would be a reasonable debate. Just as the same debate would be regarding reproduction or any other issue sensitive to children’s propriety.
MonkeyHawk,
More kids drown every year than are accidently killed by guns.
I don’t see that as a reason to outlaw swimming pools and recreation on any body of water nor to impose draconian restrictions on them either.
Simply stating that the numbers do not show it to be that serious of a problem, statistically speaking.
LLTVET,
I believe that pre-school is a good age to start teaching children about gun safety.
The Eddie Eagle program is geared to begin at that age and has been successful.
“Nathaniel” tries –
“…the numbers do not show it to be that serious of a problem, statistically speaking.”
Statistically speaking, there’s a (mumble-mumble) higher chance you’ll be shot in your home if you own a firearm than if you don’t.
Statistically speaking, there are far more firearm crimes committed in Zip Codes that have more guns.
Statistically speaking, if there were no guns in America, people wouldn’t get shot.
You don’t want to get into “statistically speaking” arguments, “Nathaniel.”
I’m the best friend on the Left you gun nuts have. I fully accept the SCOTUS ruling on Hellman.
But even Antone Scalia wrote that local governments have a right to establish laws that regulate gun ownership. (I guess you missed that.)
I want gun-owners to be competent, capable, and responsible. That concept somehow threatens your perception of your right to keep and bear arms.
Which standard strikes so much fear in you, “Nathaniel?”
Competence?
Capability?
Responsibility?
Competence?
Capability?
Responsibility?
Which one(s) do(es) a crack adict have? The person comitting a home invasion? Holding up a liquor store?
“That’s too bad, by the time Dionne gets a thought from JR or the Cap’n. they’re already second or third hand. Pretty worn out by the time they get channeled by Dionne!”
At least my life is not governed around a book that is 2000 years old.
Fossilize will ya?
Over 1 mil. on terroris watch list, here’s one of their stories.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080714/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/terror_watchlist_3
“At least my life is not governed around a book that is 2000 years old.”
That’s a little sad, JR. What does govern your life? Hatred for any one that disagrees with you?
Bush Admin. cracking down on banks, looks like his era of Want a Home? No Job, No Problem, may be drawing to an end! The end of the Great Ownership Society draws near.
MonkeyHawk,
You can play statistics all day long, they don’t show much when it comes to causal relationship as you are trying to show.
If you are the best friend on the left that we have, then you are the perfect example of how there is no one on the left who is our friend at all when it comes to guns.
Sure, I believe in people being competent, capable, and responsible when it comes to guns. There is a huge difference between your interpretation on those things and mine though and how you would want to restrcit gun ownership as well.
Definitely old enough to teach children not to touch a gun Nathaniel. Agreed.
Now if this were the extent of the gun safety in schools, that would be fine. In fact, many schools have police officers come to school to teach those basic ideas.
Would there be more to the gun exposure than that?
Oh, my.
“Nathaniel” comes up with –
“You can play statistics all day long, they don’t show much when it comes to causal relationship as you are trying to show.”
Uhm…
“Nathaniel?”
YOU were the one who introduced statistics into this thread.”
I simply told you that’s not an argument you want to enter, because the stats are against you.
Please try to keep up.
“If you are the best friend on the left that we have, then you are the perfect example of how there is no one on the left who is our friend at all when it comes to guns.”
If you believe “…there is no one on the left who is our friend,” you really don’t understand the situation.
“There is no one … who is our friend,” is textbook paranoia, “Nathaniel.”
I’m one of those teach-able people who was persuaded that banning an inanimate object is a fools’ game. I am solidly on record as buying into the right to keep and bear arms and I don’t give a rat’s leg if my next-door neighbor feels the need to keep a Howitzer in his basement. As long as he competent, capable, and responsible.
“Sure, I believe in people being competent, capable, and responsible when it comes to guns. There is a huge difference between your interpretation on those things and mine though…”
Perhaps.
So what’s your standard for competence, capability, and responsibility, “Nathaniel?”
“I carry a gun in case I need to kill someone.”
-Al Capone
MonkeyHawk asks:
“Which standard strikes so much fear in you, “Nathaniel?”
Competence?
Capability?
Responsibility? ”
LOL!!
You’re challenging a Marine about guns!
My boy is pretty modest, let me answer your questions for him.
Competance?
His job is armorer in the Marine Corps! He’s qualified marksmanship instructor. Certified range director from hand guns to surface to air missiles! He’s a certified hunter/safety instructor in Kansas!
Competant? I’d say so!
Capability?
He’s qualified high expert last several times out. He was on the batallion marksmanship team. Sniper training.
Capable? I’d say so!
Responsiblility?
He’s aquired his State of Kansas CCH license. He’s proven his responsibility in order to qualify for his license.
Fear? He’s my boy. The only thing I know that he’s possibly afraid of is hurting me when we workout together!
“HLP” shows up to rescue his “boy” with –
“Fear? He’s my boy. The only thing I know that he’s possibly afraid of is hurting me when we workout together!”
So when you “workout together” who’s the bottom and who’s on top?
Why don’t we work out together sometime Monkeyhawk? I’m sure I could get all of the sick perverted little doubts out of your head.
Hank posted July 14, 2008 at 6:08 am
“2. If your data doesn’t support your predetermined conclusion, change the data.
…
The short-term profits are enormous, and for a while at least, the incompetent and dishonest “scientists” of the world will be able to enjoy a reasonably regular paycheck. But in the end, it must all eventually collapse like the dot-com bubble, with the sad end result being that anyone wearing the title of scientist will likely be viewed with the same respect as a junk bond trader.”
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What’s the matter Hank. . .?
Are you getting very frustrated over the fact that you AGW deniers don’t have any science to support your invalid claims?
Hank’s deniers are getting so desperate they have to accuse scientists worldwide, from the 1800’s to today, of being “incompetent”, “dishonest”, and falsifying data.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/timeline.htm
That’s not “Christian”, Hank.
Hank, do you believe that J. A. Reiset was “incompetent”, “dishonest”, and falsified his CO2 data?
Reiset measured CO2 levels of around 290 ppm precisely enough to show seasonal variations — on the coast of France, during onshore winds, from 1871 to 1880.
Does Hank agree with his friend, multi-nic’d ‘Regular’, that scientists have falsified CO2 data, in a huge global conspiracy?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-713-2/#comment-383020
From 3000 to 2000 BC a cooling trend occurred. This cooling caused large drops in sea level and the emergence of many islands (Bahamas) and coastal areas that are still above sea level today. A short warming trend took place from 2000 to 1500 BC, followed once again by colder conditions. Colder temperatures from 1500 – 750 BC caused renewed ice growth in continental glaciers and alpine glaciers, and a sea level drop of between 2 to 3 meters below present day levels.
The period from 750 BC – 800 AD saw warming up to 150 BC. Temperatures, however, did not get as warm as the Climatic Optimum. During the time of Roman Empire (150 BC – 300 AD) a cooling began that lasted until about 900 AD. At its height, the cooling caused the Nile River (829 AD) and the Black Sea (800-801 AD) to freeze.
The period 900 – 1200 AD has been called the Little Climatic Optimum. It represents the warmest climate since the Climatic Optimum. During this period, the Vikings established settlements on Greenland and Iceland. The snow line in the Rocky Mountains was about 370 meters above current levels. A period of cool and more extreme weather followed the Little Climatic Optimum. A great drought in the American southwest occurred between 1276 and 1299. There are records of floods, great droughts and extreme seasonal climate fluctuations up to the 1400s.
From 1550 to 1850 AD global temperatures were at their coldest since the beginning of the Holocene. Scientists call this period the Little Ice Age. During the Little Ice Age, the average annual temperature of the Northern Hemisphere was about 1.0 degree Celsius lower than today. During the period 1580 to 1600, the western United States experienced one of its longest and most severe droughts in the last 500 years. Cold weather in Iceland from 1753 and 1759 caused 25% of the population to die from crop failure and famine. Newspapers in New England were calling 1816 the year without a summer.
http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html
“So when you “workout together” who’s the bottom and who’s on top?’
I’m not sure if using homo references as insults is helpful.
“Monkeyhawk” sneers with homophobia-“So when you “workout together” who’s the bottom and who’s on top?”
A homophobe AND a racist, you must be a Lib shining star!
There IS a problem with global warming… it stopped in 1998
By Bob Carter
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 09/04/2006
For many years now, human-caused climate change has been viewed as a large and urgent problem. In truth, however, the biggest part of the problem is neither environmental nor scientific, but a self-created political fiasco. Consider the simple fact, drawn from the official temperature records of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, that for the years 1998-2005 global average temperature did not increase (there was actually a slight decrease, though not at a rate that differs significantly from zero).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/09/do0907.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/09/ixworld.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27086036@N02/2665800062/
text from Gorilla Guides, google it if you are interested
This posting is specifically for the tiny minority of our readers who are American (or British) . What you are looking are just some of the reasons why we hate you. What you are looking at are just some of the reasons why for as long as their are Americans in our country our country will never be at peace.
Irak is for the Irakis. This is my home not yours and you completely and utterly unwelcome here.
Mohammed Ibn Laith
Look who’s talking: Denier Bob Carter
Carter is a prominent global warming sceptic and has consistently opposed the consensus view on global warming.
A March 2007 article by Sydney Morning Herald environmental reporter Wendy Frew said that “Professor Carter, whose background is in marine geology, appears to have little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community.”
While Carter is a frequent commentator on climate change, he has no published peer reviewed papers providing evidence to discredit the climate change consensus.
Wikipedia
Hey cosmos, my frightened little AGW friend,
I merely posted an email froma scientist. A peer reviewed scientist. No comment or endorsement from me at all.
I do agree with most of Regular’s posts on GW, he seems to be much more open minded and knowledgable than you.
Are you a scientist, cosmos?
Fleetwood says:
“So when you “workout together” who’s the bottom and who’s on top?’
I’m not sure if using homo references as insults is helpful.
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Fleettwood —- When is the last time you went to a REAL Wrestling match?? You know, High School, College, Olympic???
There is ALWAYS a top and bottom starting position after the initial start of the match… Sounds like YOU got the homophobic brain working over time here….
Sad… Sad… Very sad…. :-(
I see the Wet Fart of the Blog(Chas) has chimed in today.
More bottom of the barrel scraping for the military in Iraq;
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/44211.html
Dr. Yasser Salihee’s body lay in his compact car on a busy Baghdad street for everyone to see.
The doctor, employed as by what was then Knight-Ridder Newspapers as a journalist, had been shot by an American soldier who claimed that Salihee refused to slow down and who believed he presented a threat.
Though the details are disputed, the results were not: The June 24, 2005, shooting outraged the very population the military was trying to win over.
“Before the accident I loved the Americans … but after the accident, I hate all the Army,” said Salihee’s widow, Raghad al Jabar al Wazan, also a medical doctor. “All my neighbors were hating the Americans.”
The shooter seemed beyond suspicion, with a resume fit for a character from a John Wayne movie: son of a Vietnam-era fighter pilot, former elite Army Ranger, sniper team leader, accomplished hunter and marksman, aspiring wilderness guide with a trunk full of awards and a small fan club of admiring young soldiers.
“This kid was a good soldier,” said former Louisiana National Guard Maj. Andre Vige, who conducted an administrative inquiry into the shooting. “Good outfit. Good guys. One of the premier combat brigades of the National Guard. They were the standard bearer.”
But a yearlong examination by the Sacramento Bee found that the shooter, Staff Sgt. Joseph J. Romero, brought a long, troubled past with him to Iraq, and the Guard unit Vige praised was riddled with misfits, drug users and soldiers with criminal records — at least two of them former mental patients.
At the time that he shot Salihee Romero was under investigation for selling cocaine, military records show.
Days before the shooting, Romero threatened to kill a fellow soldier who reported him to the Army’s Criminal Investigation Command or CID. Three weeks later, the drug allegations would prompt the Army to strip Romero of his leadership, bar him from missions and take away his large-caliber sniper rifle.
And less than three months after the shooting, on Sept. 9, 2005, Romero was sentenced to 14 months’ confinement and given a bad conduct discharge, convicted of selling cocaine, possessing other drugs, obstructing justice and communicating a threat.
Salihee would go on to posthumously receive the Overseas Press Club of America’s top reporting award, with other Knight Ridder journalists, for reporting from Iraq. Knight Ridder would be bought in June 2006 by The McClatchy Co. which continues to operate the Baghdad news bureau where Salihee worked and owns the Sacramento Bee, as well as 29 other U.S. newspapers.
Vige, whose investigation of the Salihee shooting was made public three weeks after Romero was sentenced, said he was never aware that Romero was under criminal investigation at the time he shot Salihee. He said he never considered doing a background check on Romero because he “considered it irrelevant.”
“Every time I met with Romero he was extremely professional,” said Vige, now retired from the National Guard. “This was a stand-up soldier.”
Romero is one of more than 70 soldiers and Marines that the Bee’s examination found with questionable backgrounds who were linked to incidents in the military, most occurring in Iraq.
Romero’s history was similar to that of many of the others: financial difficulties, domestic troubles, minor but persistent criminal histories, allegations of substance abuse — or combinations of the four.
“CID (Army Criminal Investigation Command) had a long rap sheet on him,” said Col. John Dunlap of the Louisiana National Guard, who supervised two drug investigations of Romero in Iraq. “There was a ton of stuff, and it was like he’d slip out every time. Nothing would happen to him.”
The Bee made numerous attempts to seek Romero’s comments, sending Federal Express packages to him and his attorney and making two trips to Louisiana. Romero agreed to a meeting in January, but when a reporter and photographer arrived at his family’s home, they found only his stepfather, mother and attorney there.
Frank R. Durand, retired from the Louisiana State Police and currently a lieutenant assigned to the evidence department of the local Sheriff’s Office, said his stepson had changed his mind and “there will be no comment.”
TURBULENT PATH TO SERVICE
The earliest public criminal record on Romero in his hometown of Lafayette shows that on April 15, 1990, he was charged in municipal court with simple assault along with his friend, Michael Wayne Boleyn, Jr., who was charged with battery.
Ten months later, on Feb. 14, 1991, Lafayette Parish sheriff’s detectives learned that Romero was visiting gun dealers to price a stolen shotgun. Five days later, sheriff’s records show, Romero told detectives he got the shotgun from Boleyn in exchange for a deer hunting stand, a water slide and a pair of rubber boots.
Authorities subsequently accused Boleyn in a string of residential burglaries and, Boleyn said, he agreed to join the Louisiana National Guard at the suggestion of law enforcement officers. As a result, he said, the prosecutor dropped six of the eight burglary charges, and he was sentenced to five years’ probation.
Boleyn, during an interview at his home near Lafayette, said he and Romero had been close friends. He claimed the two had committed the burglaries together and that he has been angry ever since because he took all the blame.
“Joe was in it just as much as me,” Boleyn said. “Nothing happened to him.”
Carrol Clavelle, who investigated the burglary as a detective for the local Sheriff’s Office, said Romero provided valuable information about a series of burglaries, which was one of the reasons he wasn’t charged with possession of stolen property.
On Feb. 5, 1991, five days after Clavelle was assigned to the burglary case, Romero entered the Army.
THE ‘JUAREZ RANGERS’
Romero’s Army career soared in the months following his enlistment, and he became a member of the elite 75th Army Ranger Regiment, assigned to Fort Benning, Ga.
His career crashed even faster.
As tensions mounted in Mogadishu, Somalia, in the summer of 1993, Romero and other Rangers trained at Fort Bliss, Texas, not far from the Mexican border. During a break in training, Romero and other Rangers crossed the border into Juarez.
Donald “Donnie” Lee Thomas, Romero’s supervisor then, said the Rangers were ordered not to go to Mexico, but he drove Romero and several others to Juarez. He knew he couldn’t stop them, he said, so he sought to ensure their safe return.
Discipline was swift and harsh.
Col. Danny McKnight, now retired, said he forbade any of the 35 or so Rangers who’d violated his order from deploying to Somalia. Rangers who obeyed his orders were sent to reinforce Rangers who had just fought the now-famous Battle of Mogadishu, subject of the book and movie “Black Hawk Down.”
That battle made Rangers famous everywhere; the trip to Mexico made Romero and the others infamous among follow Rangers, who dubbed them, “The Juarez Rangers.”
Many of the disciplined soldiers left the Rangers altogether, but some, including Romero, were accepted into a platoon of misfits at the Ranger school, assigned to play enemy soldiers but no longer eligible to deploy as real Rangers.
“When I got there, there was a lot of — how should I say — ash and trash,” recalled former 1st Sgt. Sean T. Kelly, who took over the platoon in 1994 on a mission to rid it of drug users.
ALLEGATIONS IN MICHIGAN
Drug allegations against Romero grew more serious after he left Fort Benning.
At Fort Richardson, Alaska, on Oct. 10, 1996, he was identified as the target of an Army criminal investigation into cocaine use, but records show he was not charged due to a lack of evidence. And in the tiny town of Newaygo, Mich., where Romero lived for about two years after leaving the Army in 1999, several people told The Bee that Romero openly used drugs, including methamphetamine, and was involved in drug sales.
Dean Allen Robinson, identified by Michigan law enforcement authorities as an associate of a Latino drug kingpin, said during an interview at the Michigan state prison in Carson City that Romero worked for him in his logging business, and he regularly supplied Romero with drugs and used drugs with him. Romero, Robinson said, also helped him prepare drugs for sale in exchange for free samples.
Romero and the 21-year-old Louisiana woman who moved to Michigan with him also had financial problems. In November 2001, they were the subjects of a complaint filed in the judicial district court in White Cloud, Mich., for $984 in unpaid rent. They subsequently moved into a mobile home and quit paying the rent, said the landlord, Mark Presler, who lives with Robinson’s sister.
After he returned to Louisiana, Romero’s relationship with his girlfriend ended, but his financial problems continued and he became the target of a paternity case that would linger for six months before being dismissed.
‘UNIT HAS A DRUG PROBLEM’
In May 2004, Romero entered the Louisiana National Guard and, later that year, headed to Iraq. Within days of his arrival, he was accused of selling Valium.
“I was offered Valiums by Sgt. Romero,” said an October 2004 handwritten statement to Army investigators from Spc. Jeremy L. Breaux.
Romero denied the allegations, said Col. Dunlap of the Louisiana National Guard, and his superiors refused to prosecute, calling Romero “a superstar.”
Still, the allegations helped expose a larger drug problem within the 256th Infantry Brigade Combat Team.
“The unit has a drug problem,” Army prosecutor Capt. Margaret Kurz said during a court-martial of one of its members.
Records obtained by The Bee of all disciplinary actions against soldiers of the 256th in Iraq show more than 400 soldiers accused of misconduct — at least 85 for drug-related offenses — within the unit, whose makeup is roughly half Louisiana National Guard members. Dunlap, however, attributed the number to more vigilance and the large number of lawyers in the unit.
Pvt. James A. Vige, not related to the investigator with the same last name, was found in Iraq lying on a bathroom floor with a syringe next to his needle-marked arms. Vige had previously been arrested by Fullerton, Calif., police for showing up at a military post under the influence of drugs, with a syringe in his helmet bag.
“I shouldn’t have been over there with a gun,” Vige told The Bee. “I’ve been in psychiatric treatment and involved in drugs, and they knew all about it.”
‘IN HARM’S WAY’
Pvt. Vige’s overdose led straight to Romero.
“Vige started naming names,” Dunlap said, adding that the list was 20 names long and “Romero was on the list.”
This time Romero’s denials didn’t stop the Army.
On June 10, 2005, just hours after Vige’s overdose, soldiers of the 256th gathered for a barbecue outside Romero’s trailer, where he got a call with news of the investigation.
“He was worried, nervous … paranoid,” Staff Sgt. Don A. Gatheright would later testify, adding that Romero was “wigging out.”
Gatheright said he agreed to hide Romero’s marijuana in the unit’s arms room, where Gatheright worked.
When investigators searched Romero’s room, they found only a small bottle of prescription amphetamine salts in the bottom drawer of his nightstand. The drug is used to treat attention-deficit disorder and hyperactivity and side effects can include loss of motor control. People with a history of drug abuse are warned not to take the drug.
That night, court-martial records say, Romero threatened to kill Vige and he also threatened Murphy, believing they had implicated him.
The drug allegations would prompt superiors to pull Romero from missions, strip him of his leadership and take away his .50-caliber sniper rifle.
But 21 days before his superiors took away that rifle, Romero had gone on another mission.
‘THEY WON’T FORGET’
Taking advantage of a rare Friday off from his job as a translator and correspondent for Knight Ridder Newspapers, Dr. Yasser Salihee went for a haircut. His widow, Raghad, who conducted her own informal inquiry into the shooting, told The Bee that the shop apparently was closed, so her husband headed home.
He drove toward an intersection patrolled by a small group of Iraqi soldiers and Louisiana National Guard members, including Romero, guarding a building being searched.
“The driver did not see the American forces because they were hiding behind trees, residential houses and a shopping area,” the owner of a nearby ice kiosk told Iraqi authorities.
Seeing Salihee’s white Daewoo Espero approach the intersection rapidly, an Iraqi soldier ran out, trying to stop him.
“During this time an American sniper fired toward the driver and killed him,” the soldier told Iraqi police.
One round hit Salihee in the head, killing him.
Maj. Andrei Vige, the officer assigned to conduct an administrative inquiry, wrote in his report that Salihee ignored pleas by soldiers to stop and kept driving toward Romero, who said in a written statement that he fired a warning shot and a shot into the car’s engine. At that point, the report says, another soldier shot out the right front tire, but Salihee kept driving, swerving around a parked vehicle as he continued to move toward the soldiers.
Vige suggested that Salihee may have been distracted and didn’t see the soldiers.
Salihee’s widow said that when her brother arrived at the accident scene, he found Salihee’s foot pressed against the brake, which she believes indicates he may have been trying to stop when he was shot.
Raghad, who remarried and is living in New York, remains bitter. She said Vige visited her after the shooting and handed her an envelope with $5,000 inside, $2,500 for the loss of the car and $2,500 for the loss of her husband.
“I told him, ‘You tell me sorry and then you tell me that my husband is the cost of the car,’ ” she said.
Less than three months after the shooting, on Sept. 9, 2005, Romero was sentenced to 14 months’ confinement and given a bad conduct discharge, convicted of selling cocaine, possessing other drugs, obstructing justice and communicating a threat.
During an interview in his Lafayette-area office, Vige said he never saw the complete autopsy report, never got the bullet for ballistic tests and wasn’t able to inspect the vehicle until two weeks after the shooting, after it had been washed.
Though Vige disputed many of Raghad’s claims, he agreed that what happened immediately after the shooting enraged local residents.
The American soldiers left quickly, leaving Salihee’s body inside the car, unguarded, and allowing evidence to become contaminated. The platoon leader told Vige that a commander, code-named “Bandit 6,” ordered the platoon from the area, but Vige said Bandit 6 told him he gave no such order.
“How would you like it if an outsider came to your neighborhood and shot your neighbor and left?” Vige said. “They won’t forget.”
Hank,
I’m not “frightened”, and I’m not your “little AGW friend”.
Hank: “I merely posted an email froma scientist. A peer reviewed scientist. No comment or endorsement from me at all.”
So you don’t know whether you agree or disagree with your own posts? You just blindly do copy/pastes, without reading them?
Is his peer-reviewed science in climate? Links to paper(s) please.
Hank: “I do agree with most of Regular’s posts on GW, he seems to be much more open minded and knowledgable than you.”
Do you agree with ‘Regular’s’ claim that scientists falsified CO2 data?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-713-2/#comment-383020
Or do you believe that their data is accurate?
Or do you just not have any opinion?
Re the bogus claim that AGW stopped in 1998,
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2007/08/31/garbage-is-forever/
A graph at above page,
http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/t1975.jpg
‘Bob Carter
Studies Rock Layers’
http://www.desmogblog.com/node/1557
“Carter “not a credible source” on climate change
In response to claims made by Carter that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change uncovered no evidence that global warming was caused by human activity, a former CSIRO climate scientist stated that Carter was not a credible source on climate change and that “if he [Carter] has any evidence that [global warming over the past 100 years] is a natural variability he should publish through the peer review process.” “
Thanks for the post Ben.
“Even if the commitment to Iraq is reduced and the Army can meet its goal of adding 74,000 soldiers, it would take three or four years of effort and increased funding to restore a force that is capable of meeting the full range of military challenges.”
—–General Casey, Dec 6 2007——
cosmos is not a scientist.
cosmos is a political hack seeking for huge carbon taxes which have been proven by Kyoto Protocol participants as a dismal failure.
cosmos supports failed policies and science.
Hank posted July 14, 2008 at 4:41 pm
“I do agree with most of Regular’s posts on GW, he seems to be much more open minded and knowledgable than you.”
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Hank, why do you consider a LIAR “open minded and knowledgable”?
Is that one of your “Christian” principles?
‘Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ posted July 12, 2008 at 3:40 am
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-710-2/#comment-382388
“The only thing that is happening at these sample stations that read nearly identical co2 levels is that they are calibrated as non-empirical samples.
In other words, they are submitted(sic) as bona fide samples the calibration gas, plus some imaginary weasel factors that the alarmist have dreamed up.
Instead of using actual data from actual sites where human lives, the alarmists have purified and indemnified virginal co2 levels literally out of thin air.”
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1) The data collected at many sites, by many people, is “empirical”, and not based on “imaginary weasel factors that the alarmist have dreamed up”.
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/contents.htm
2) Uncontaminated CO2 measurements can be made by anybody, in many places — an aircraft, an ocean coastline with an onshore wind, etc.
Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’s claim that scientists worldwide, in a huge global conspiracy, have falsified CO2 levels is ridiculous.
He’s never lied to me. I kind of like him. Hell, I’m actually fond of you! You make us deniers look good!
Burtram Odenhiemer, another Wichita abortionist quack living near 21st St. and Webb Rd., has been providing the second signatures for George Tiller’s infamous, high-profit post-viable abortions. Odenhiemer works at the Wichita Clinic, a non-abortion medical center at located at 3311 E. Murdock in Wichita, KS. This quack claims to be board certified in psychiatry, so that he can profitably justify killing viable babies because of the permanent mental damage that might be done to mothers who continue their pregnancy a few more weeks to live delivery, thereby causing them unbearable depression when rodeos or music concerts are then missed.
Less than 8 hours after being exposed by pro-lifers, Odenheimer and another quack have agreed to no longer provide the second opinion for Tiller’s late-term abortion victims, starting immediately.
The Wichita Clinic may still be worthy of boycott.
Contact:
Wichita Clinic Board President Jerry E. Niernberger
Phone: (316) 609-4531; Fax: (316) 636-1540
E-Mail: shapedown@wichitaclinic.com
(Put “Attn. Dr. Niernberger” in the subject line.)
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Leftist, baby-hating U.S. Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee’s subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, has blocked official hearings on a bill that would make it a crime for minors to be transported across state lines for an abortion without parental consent. Republican committee members are holding unofficial hearings, anyway, thumbing their noses at leftist Democrat leadership which has earned a 9% or less public approval rating lately.
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Adam Gault, 42, of Connecticut, is headed to prison for 25 years and his accomplices received three years each, for their convictions in the kidnapping and sexual assault of a 15-year-old girl. Planned Parenthood committed the cover-up abortion. Gault and Ann Murphy and Kimberley Cray, who lived with Gault at the time, gave the teenager drugs and alcohol, sexual abused her, and kept her locked in a small storage closet. Gault then took the girl to a Planned Parenthood abortion mill in West Hartford, CT. Later, DNA from the dead baby matched Gault, a finger of blame from the tiny grave.
Planned Parenthood, after collecting their profitable fee, of course, did not report the 15-year-old girl’s pregnancy as suspicion of statutory rape, or likely even give a second thought to the criminality of the abortion.
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A teenager in a Houston suburb says her mother forced her to commit an abortion by forcing an abortion drug on her, and then buried the body of the baby in the backyard. Police may have recovered the tiny body. After giving birth to the baby in her home, the teen told police her mother took the baby and buried the child in the backyard of the family’s house. The girl did not know whether the baby was dead or alive at the time.
Recently, a 16-year-old girl being coerced into a Missouri Planned Parenthood abortion mill by her mother and aunt called police to arrest the aunt. In Georgia, a mother was recently arrested for forcing her daughter to drink turpentine to cause an abortion.
And in Wichita, KS, a young girl was strangled by a contract killer for refusing to commit an abortion, resulting in the new Alexa’s Law in Kansas, protecting unborn babies from violent attacks.
Alexa’s Law does not protect viable babies from illegal mangling, dismemberment, poisoning, or beheading by George Tiller, however. If it did, the mothers might be seriously and permanently harmed by missing rodeos or music concerts. And Bilious Sebelius vetoed the enforcement of informed consent, so – the exploitation and abuse of young mothers and their children continues.
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The same Florida hospice that executed Terri Schiavo by starvation has executed another conscious and responsive disabled patient, Bradley Whaley, 26, by pulling his feeding tube and starving him slowly to death.
Massive euthanasia programs start with the brain-dead, then the brain-damaged, then the inconvenient and overly expensive patients, along with the incurable or permanently disabled children.
Hitler set the pattern, prior to World War II, in clinics across Germany.
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Democrats claim to be a Big Tent party, but Bilious Sebelius and Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley are not missing a chance to stab incumbent pro-life Democrat state Senator Mark Gilstrap by endorsing his Democratic opponent, Kelly Kultala, in the Aug. 5 primary.
In their party, Democrats always pay the price for voting pro-life. Enjoy being made an example, Senator Gilstrap. [You’re in the wrong party, by the way.]
Hank posted July 14, 2008 at 8:19 pm
“He’s never lied to me.
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He lied about climate scientists, and their CO2 measurements.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/open-thread-714/#comment-383588
But Hank seems to consider that lying an admirable, positive trait.
Thank you for pointing out the information that YOU HAD NO RIGHT TO ACCESS TO…I’ve forwarded the information to the pro-choice networks to put emails to the Wichita Clinic to NOT cowtow to your harassment.
Parkay you numbskull, if someone is SO devastated at 7 months pregnant (because WEEKS before delivery does NOT happen, it’s MONTHS unlike you claim)
because they can’t go to a concert, what makes you think these people are smart enough to be a damn parent!
WOMEN KNOW when they are not ready. STOP THE HARASSMENT.
I agree Jockstrap is in the wrong party.
And it is NOT YOUR PLACE to tell people when they can pull the plug on their loved ones.
“In Georgia, a mother was recently arrested for forcing her daughter to drink turpentine to cause an abortion.”
Horray Parkay- another result from your legislations….you should be so proud!
cosmos, my biddy buddy, son,
Again, he never lied to me. You, an the other hand have lied to me, about me and about what I believe.
Regular is smarter than you. Every now and then, he has an original thought. A trait totally absent in you.
I still love ya. What do yu want me to post tomorrow, political or scientific? Your choice.
Major League Baseball All-Star Game tomorrow… last one to be played ever in The House That Ruth Built… Such a shame it has to be torn down…. Another piece of History, headed for the junk heap!!
Long Live NYC, and the NEW Yankee Stadium!!
Yankee Stadium — RIP 1923 — 2008….(+)
Hank,
Okay, I guess you don’t mind if multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ lies about climate scientists, and climate science.
Post another one like you did today:
AGW scientists are “incompetent and dishonest “scientists”.
“2. If your data doesn’t support your predetermined conclusion, change the data.”
You got it cosmos! See ya tomorrow.
A really historic place isn’t it Chas? Remember when they used to have monuments actually in play in center field? I will watch the All Star game, which I usually don’t care about, just because of the venue this year.
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There will NEVER be another Ball Park like the original Yankee Stadium!!
“That’s a little sad, JR. What does govern your life? Hatred for any one that disagrees with you?”
Yeah pretty much.
But I don’t elevate it to the status of a religion.
DavidB — Can you explain a bit more about your post at 10:30 pm please?? Thanks!!
Does anybody know why the State Department would see fit to send the likes of Neal Boortz on an information gathering venture to England, and other parts of Europe?? Isnt there something a bit odd about sending a Talk Radio host on a State Department junket??
“Isnt there something a bit odd about sending a Talk Radio host on a State Department junket??”
No more odd than calling yourself a minister Chas.
He is at least educated and successful, he has proven talent and capability. So why not?
Besides, they ask that he come over.
Link please Chas?
Just when I think this administration is beyond the absurd?
They remake the definition.
Neal Boortz as some sort of ambassador?
Are they using a time machine to send him to Feudal Europe? That’s where the sonovabitch belongs.
Hank posted July 14, 2008 at 4:41 pm
“I merely posted an email froma scientist. A peer reviewed scientist. No comment or endorsement from me at all.”
Hank, if your daily copy/pastes are “no comment or endorsement from me at all”, why don’t you add a comment stating that at the top of each post?
Add a comment saying that YOU are not making a “comment” by posting your copy/paste.
And state that you neither agree nor disagree with the opinion(s), facts, ideas, etc that you are copy/pasting.
Hank. . . maybe something like:
“I’m just posting this because someone wrote it.
I have no opinions about it, and will be unable to comment about it.”
Cosmos,
Why don’t you just stop assuming things. It would be much simpler.
While you are at it, stop twisting peoples words and what they say.
Nathaniel,
Then please tell exactly what your father meant when he posted this:
Hank posted July 14, 2008 at 4:41 pm
“No comment or endorsement from me at all.”
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Nathaniel did your father lie when he posted that at 4:41 pm?
Was his copy/paste at 6:08 am actually a “comment”? An “endorsement”?
Has your father posted his personal opinion(s) about the contents of his 6:08 am post? NO.
Boxlock
Posted July 14, 2008 at 11:14 pm | Permalink
“Isnt there something a bit odd about sending a Talk Radio host on a State Department junket??”
No more odd than calling yourself a minister Chas.
He is at least educated and successful, he has proven talent and capability. So why not?
Besides, they ask that he come over.
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Boxlock… Does your GOD believe in you telling lies constantly about others whom you do not know??? I hope so, or you could be in deep kaka!! LOL
JAY — http://www.boortz.com
Well, an interesting day….
Good night; Good luck; and God Bless —
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
Blessings on all the memories of Yankee Stadium!!
Let’s have a show of hands here………….
How many of us inhuman post-aborts had abortions because we didn’t wanna miss a rock concert or rodeo or for any other, comparable dumbf— reason?
Oh, I can see it now: It’s early 1975; Grand Funk Railroad is in its waning days, and I blurt out to the late Dr. Hull, “Oh, Doctor! I just HAVE to see that long-haired guy with a pierced ear (Mark Farner) – ’cause I think he’s just NEAT! With those flowing tresses and soulful lyrics (see “We’re an American Band”), he reminds me of a modern-day Jesus!”
Y-y-y-y-yeah……………………….
You make valid points, Parkay. Some of them are quite thought-provoking. But the manner in which you make them just doesn’t sit all that well with the big b–ch sometimes.
Heh Pmom. I had to go back and read the wingnut post to figure out what you were talking about. Thanks a lot!
Hee hee hee heeeeee…
The good news is that like me, I think most of the blog readers here just scroll over his crap. I cant imagine anyone actually reading his lies, much less believing them.
Total scroll over territory.
I know KFG, Chas is soooo full of crap.
HEEHEEHEEEHEHEHEHEH…..HEEEE HEEEEE..cough…HEE HEEE HE HEEEE….