From a column by Dick Morris: “According to the latest Fox News survey, Obama is winning among women under 40 by 13 points, but McCain is winning among women aged 41-45 by four points. Among women 50 and over, McCain is three points ahead. Obama’s 48-35 lead among women under 40 is normal for a Democrat, but to trail among women in their 40s by 45-41 and by women over 50 by 38-35 is extraordinary.”
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Guess women under 40 take exception to the C#nt, designation.
Guess women over 40 have been screwed over by smooth talking swindlers, and can spot a con-artist when they see one.
Older women have heard men that are full of crap in their lives many times. They can smell this one coming a mile away.
How’s mccain doing with the 70 and older women crowd?
Sorry, Franklin, I didn ‘t read your comment. I guess we think a lot alike.
Race.
Older women are more racist than younger women, just like men.
“Older women have heard men that are full of crap in their lives many times. They can smell this one coming a mile away.”
Assuming that is true, why did women overwhelming support Kerry last time around?
Coming from a woman’s perspective, Obama is very arrogant. He thinks his way is the better way, he cannot admit even when he is wrong. He snaps at the very reporters who praise him like a God when they ask him questions that he was not prepared to answer. One thing a woman really does not like is a man who wants it his way. And if he is willing to act like this in front of the world, why would we want him as a President. It has nothing to do with color. If it did, why are there a lot of white women married to black men.
Another woman’s perspective — I feel so proud and inspired when I hear Obama talking to us like adults. McCain uses the same sing-song lecturing, talking down to us tone as bush. Both embarrass me, McCain also puts me right to sleep!
Now, moving along to the content of the speech — Obama is for peace, he respects science, he knows the importance of education, he will work toward affordable health care for all Americans, he knows how to conduct diplomatic relationships, he realizes America is one country in a world-wide economy.
Obama is head and shoulders a better man than McCain will ever be.
I’m in that “advanced” age group that supposedly doesn’t support Obama. I’ve lived long enough to know a good man when I see one!
Polls are polls, barely believable.
We will find out what’s true when the election is held.
Registered voters and those who actually vote are the only ones that count and that includes women.
Older women probably have the highest voting population for casting their ballot than any group.
And besides, who can trust a Dick Morris/Fox Noise comment on anything?
Dennis
Could be lingering resentment over Hillary’s defeat, too, plus race.
Not an issue. The age categories where McCain leads is a statistical tie since the error rate is usually 5%. Since Obama’s lead with women under 40 shows a lead above the error rate it’s safe to conclude Obama does much better with women than McCain.
Another thing to note is there is a larger age range for Obama’s approval. The category of 18-40 covers many more years than 41-45.
A recent Quinnipiac University poll has Obama leading in an overall lead with women voters 55 to 36%. It’s safe to say that Obama appears to be doing quite well with the female voter.
I wonder how many women are in each age group.
The issue is Hillary. And there is NO question about it. I’m one of millions.
What kind of ridiculous bs did BH…er BS spew?
WHO can’t admit when they’re wrong? WHO is so arrogant that they call women *C*nT and Trollup.
You also have to take into account..it’s a Faux Noise study. Real women don’t watch Faux News.
Faux Noise, PM!
If anyone is inclined to convert most of the % dif. into voters, here’s a 2000 chart:
Age Distribution by Sex, 2000
Male Female
Number Percent Number Percent
Total Population 138,053,563 49.06% 143,368,343 50.94%
0-4 9,810,733 3.49% 9,365,065 3.33%
5-9 10,523,277 3.74% 10,026,228 3.56%
10-14 10,520,197 3.74% 10,007,875 3.56%
15-19 10,391,004 3.69% 9,828,886 3.49%
20-24 9,687,814 3.44% 9,276,187 3.30%
25-29 9,798,760 3.48% 9,582,576 3.41%
30-34 10,321,769 3.67% 10,188,619 3.62%
35-39 11,318,696 4.02% 11,387,968 4.05%
40-44 11,129,102 3.95% 11,312,761 4.02%
45-49 9,889,506 3.51% 10,202,898 3.63%
50-54 8,607,724 3.06% 8,977,824 3.19%
55-59 6,508,729 2.31% 6,960,508 2.47%
60-64 5,136,627 1.83% 5,668,820 2.01%
65-69 4,400,362 1.56% 5,133,183 1.82%
70-74 3,902,912 1.39% 4,954,529 1.76%
75-79 3,044,456 1.08% 4,371,357 1.55%
80-84 1,834,897 0.65% 3,110,470 1.11%
85+ 1,226,998 0.44% 3,012,589 1.07%
Just saw John Kerry on Fox News, talking to Bill O’Reilly.
Kerry told O’Reilly that it was a mistake for Kerry to have avoided Fox News, in his Presidential race.
Kerry told O’Reilly that his show treated him fairly.
Frankie, is Obama Arab or Persian today?
What’s a matter, P-Mommy? Can’t stand it that there’s another woman on this blog? One who’s smart, articulate, and doesn’t sing from your hymn book. One who knows what she believes and doesn’t react in knee jerk fashion to every issue that appears on this blog site.
You people are so predictable. The few conservatives that frequent this site shoot every argument that the, so called “progressives” make full of holes with logic and reason. And what is your reaction? Since you’ve lost the argument, you fall back on your old tried and true emotions. Hate and envy. You attack Fox News or the President and Vice President, or Rush and Hannity, or Christians and people of faith. It may play well with your fellow travelers, but to the rest of us its just so pathetic.
………………………chrissyprissyboy, YOU are the pathetic one.
Chrisfrommactown was a man a few weeks ago, but now has decided to be a woman……… interesting.
Do you change genders often Chris, or just when the mood strikes you?
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Apophis
Posted July 30, 2008 at 7:50 pm | Permalink
………………………chrissyprissyboy, YOU are the pathetic one
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Well, one thing we know with absolute certainty. Apophis is not the debate coach at the Middle School where he teaches.
………jealous there outlander?
ludicrous held a FUND RAISER for Obama.
Obama supports the hip hop, rap, gang banger culture.
“Obama supports the hip hop, rap, gang banger culture.”
God Damn! Obama SUPPORTS hip hop and rap!!!!!
Son of a bitch, god damn, the man supports MUSIC that is enjoyed by millions of Americans!!!!!!
Hang the mo’fo!!!!!!!
Damn.
And
Gang bangers have killed more Black people than the KKK.
Hip Hop, Rap culture supports gang bangers.
Obama supports gang bangers.
Time-Served Credit for Sex Predators
In 1999, while in the Illinois State Legislature, Obama was the only vote AGAINST SB 485, a bill that would prohibit certain persons convicted of criminal sexual abuse from receiving credit for time served in the county jail.
-SB 485 March 11, 1999
No, On Tougher Penalties for Gang-Bangers
In 2002, Obama voted “NO” on HB 1812, a bill designed to toughen penalties for crimes committed in furtherance of gang activities.
-HB 1812 May 12, 2001
Obama, the criminals’ best friend.
And Franklin pollutes yet another thread with non-sequitur single sentence talking points.
“Gang bangers have killed more Black people than the KKK.”
Maybe. The death count from white on black racism from the late 19th to the 20th century is not well documented however. Lots of folks simply disappeared. Still, no question gang violence has killed a lot of people, including and especially black people.
“Hip Hop, Rap culture supports gang bangers.”
Sometimes. It is broader than that, however.
“Obama supports gang bangers.”
Bullsh*t. And Ludicrous having a fund raiser for Barack Obama does not provide evidence whatsoever for this bogus statement.
As a logical argument, this doesn’t even qualify as bad. It is abysmal.
You are in truly pathetic form tonight.
How desperate is McCain?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_celebrity_cred.html
Aganatha
What if some musician had a fund raiser for George Bush, and it was later discovered that the same musician had made a racist song supporting the KKK or White Power groups?
Would that not be an issue for you?
Obama has openly befriended yet ANOTHER radical, Ludicris! (And several other rappers as well!)
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26002
Obama and gangs from Factcheck (includes discussion of HB 1812).
http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/04/21/fact_check_on_willie_hortonsty.php
Don’t bring FACTS into the discussion, Ag, Rosseel doesn’t like facts – they just CONfuse him.
First of all, Human Events. Franklin is true to form in referencing right wing shill websites.
Secondly, support by rappers hardly proves one supports gangs (bullsh*t alert…again).
Third, the writer of the Human Events bilge paints with a broad brush. Ludicrous is known for PARODYING rap and rap culture. It’s like saying that someone who listens to MC Hawking is a gang sympathizer (in other words, it’s like saying therefore I am a gang sympathizer).
Obama is friends with rappers who use many offensive words.
The “N” word, “Whore” “Bitch” ect.
Obama is friends with people who glamorize shooting cops and selling drugs.
Obama is friends with people who treat women like trash, in their songs.
“Late that year he met with the rap giant Ludacris in his Chicago office. Ludacris, who Pepsi dropped as a spokesman in 2004 after Fox News Channel host Bill O’Reilly exposed his putrid lyrics, said afterwards that Obama felt like family to him. In March 2007 Ludacris, whose hit songs include “Move B—-,” headlined an Obama fundraiser in Atlanta.
Obama even recorded a voice over for a new album out this June from rapper Q-tip. Will it contain lyrics like these sonnets from another Q-tip song? “Close the door, ‘ight let a n—- rock. Cause we ‘bout to eat real s—, not s— slop.”
Who are these members of Obama’s amen corner? Many are the industry’s leading lights, who have become rich and famous thanks to the willingness of liberals like Obama to ignore or excuse their glorification of sexism, drugs and violence. Without this kind of collaboration they would just be unemployed thugs instead of millionaires.
Obama thus far has equivocated on rappers. He has criticized their language, but adamantly refused to denounce the whole sordid genre as the unique cultural problem that it is.
“I haven’t just singled out rappers,” Obama told Al Sharpton’s National Action Network conference last year, according to the New York Observer. “I’ve said I’ve heard those words [used by rappers] around the kitchen table in some homes. I hear them in the barber shop. I hear them on the basketball court. All of us have been complicit in diminishing ourselves.”
Obama here relies on the pro-forma defense of rap music. Yes, apologists say, it’s racist and sexist but it only reflects the racism and sexism of society.
Oh, really? Where else but rap do folks talk so openly and regularly about b——, n—— and hoes? What other industry makes millions of dollars from those words? Obama says he’s heard this kind of language on the basketball court. Which one? Not any NBA game. Players who curse during games are suspended and fined.
Where else but rap do you hear words like these from Obama supporter Jay-Z in his song “99 Problems?”
Now once upon a time not long ago
A n—- like myself had to strong arm a hoe
This is not a hoe in the sense of having a p—
But a p—- having no God Damn sense
Besides Jay-Z, Obama has also won support from rap mogul Russell Simmons, rapper Nas, whose new album is titled “N—–“ and 9/11 conspiracy theorist Mos Def.
It’s high time the media ask some tough questions. Why has Obama collaborated with rappers? Is he familiar with their words? How could he not be? The senator’s spokesperson said that when he and Ludacris met the two men found common ground on AIDS prevention. How do you find common ground on sexual behavior with someone who calls women “b——?”
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26002#continueA
Agnatha
You are absurd.
Obama IS friendly towards these rap music figures.
Obama has received political support from these rap figures.
Obama has not come out against the glorification of gang banging.
Obama has not coume out against the “dont snitch” hip hop, rap music culture.
Hey clueless
Have I EVER brought up Obama’s votes against the death penalty, on this Blog?
Yet your “fact check” post comes up, trying to disprove something that I never said.
Fact check does a bad job of proving its point, anyway — but it is not a point I ever tried to make.
I did not bring up that particular vote.
You are getting sloppy and desperate.
Obama’s rap music friends will be his next Pastor Wright problem.
Funny that you’d mention associations and the publication Human Events. Keep in mind they are associated with Kevin T. Lamb who edited the white supremacist journal The Occidental Quarterly and other racist publications.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=371
Hold on Paul, since you are associating yourself with Human Events that must mean you too are a racist.
Ag
Weak, very weak, and dumb arguments.
Obama is very tight with some real scum bags in the rap music business.
Those who make money off of promoting drug dealing, drug violence, gang violence, killing cops and telling people “don’t snitch” should not be allowed in the same circle with any President.
Obama is friends with these people.
Franklin, reposting sludge from Human Events does not a point make.
Again, Obama’s actual record on gang issues:
http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/04/21/fact_check_on_willie_hortonsty.php
Factcheck is a NON-partisan site that sets out to evalute the truth of claims made by candidates and their supporters/surrogates.
Human Events is a right wing shill site and IS a supporter/surrogate for conservative candidates. One can predict that it will publish anything critical of any Democratic “liberal” candidate running for office, particularly the presidency. And again, the author paints with an extremely broad brush over an entire genre of music (self disclosure, I for the most part don’t like rap, and I despise the lyrics, particularly the misogyny-however, there are exceptions…OutKast is friggin’ brilliant).
It has been shown recently that John McCain has been a long time friend of Tony Orlando, but is at odds with Dawn. Further, John McCain has also claimed a close friendship with Lawrence Welk.
When it was pointed out to McCain that Welk had, in fact, died years ago, McCain looked shock and stated that “Lawrence looked great to me, just last week.”
When it was noted that Welk had died in 1992, McCain seem confused and ventured that it might have been Liberace that he was thinking about.
Goodess, Nora Jones will be on the same album as Q-tip and Senator Obama. That must mean Nora Jones is a notorious gangster rapper who is pimpin’ hoes.
Can someone slap the stupid out of Paul before his racist nonsense dumbs down everyone else?
“Ag
“Weak, very weak, and dumb arguments.”
This from the guy who tried to argue that Baghdad is safer than Chicago because fewer Americans have died in Baghdad.
The rest of the post is the same unsupported crap you’ve already posted. Repeating talking points doesn’t make them true, bullsh*tter.
Fastcheck…bleh
It’s an Anneberg group project that has been infiltrated by Liberals.
hardly reliable.
You libs, on this Blog, all said that the Pastor Wright issue was not important.
It has been the MOST important issue in this campaign, so far.
Face it, Obama has NO record.
Obama has barely served any time at all, in the United States Senate. Obama has missed a great many votes, in the US Senate.
Obama voted “present” frequently, in the Illinois legislature.
We can only know what kind of person Obama is by the radical nuts Obama hangs around with.
Wright, Ayers, Rezco, sexist rap music stars, these are Obama’s friends.
And again, Agnatha, YOU are being ridiculous, you posted a “fact check” rebuttle of the death penalty vote.
I NEVER brought up that vote, so you wasted space with a staw man argument, trying to “disprove” something that was never at issue.
Dick Wolf hired Ice-T to appear on “Law and Order.” Ice-T was the rap artist who released the heavy-metal album “Body Count,” which included the selections “Smoked Pork,” “Mama’s Gotta Die Tonight” and of course “Cop Killer.”
Ice-T’s rap works have included a simulation of a drill piercing a head (”Black and Decker”) and the line “In case you forgot, I started this gangsta sh*t.”
Obviously, Ice-T is a menace to society, and Dick Wolf is responsible for gang violence.
“Obama voted “present” frequently, in the Illinois legislature.”
If by frequently, you mean 129 times out of over 4,000 votes, and 65 of those times were part of a legislative strategy by his party.
So Obama voted “present” 1.6% of the time = frequently in CONspeak.
I guess McCain wouldn’t vote present because he doesn’t even bother to show up most of the time.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?tab=votes&id=300071
Here is an (admittedly) liberal viewpoint on Evan Garh’s nonsense.
http://gawker.com/380171/black-obama-linked-to-black-rappers-in-b++++-hoe-scandal-says-race+blind-conservative-publication
It treats the subject with about all the seriousness that it deserves.
“And again, Agnatha, YOU are being ridiculous, you posted a ‘fact check’ rebuttle of the death penalty vote.”
It was on more than that. It should be noted, however, that this is a Barack Obama website relaying a factcheck article.
Here is the actual Factcheck article.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/reprehensible_misrepresentation.html
“I NEVER brought up that vote, so you wasted space with a staw man argument, trying to ‘disprove’ something that was never at issue.”
Yes you did. Check out the bill number you posted and the bill number it refers to.
HB 1812.
I invite anyone to go back and look at what Franklin posted (about Obama voting against tougher penalties for gang bangers)
and the bill number the Factcheck article discusses. They are both HB 1812.
Obviously, what you did is, as usual, relay something from a right wing website without bothering to inform yourself on the subject first.
I’m guessing that good ole Christ from Mactown is the make believe husband of the BorgHunter.
Only in your deluded mind does your argument poke holes in anything. If anything the state of our nation should be evidence of how screwed up your policies do. Reagan left the office with corruption and debt, Bush SR got us into the first Iraq war, and had to turn back the neocon policies because the US was falling apart.
By the way, what “POINT” did she blow a hole in….the fact that the ones who can’t admit a mistake are the neocons?
HA. Tell yourself another one. Perhaps you can pray about it and God will make you right.
Clinton put it all back together, then Shrub comes in and hurts us worse than Carter did.
At least Carter was a good and honorable man.
Obama did not support ANY law that would make crime as part of gang activity an “agravated” event. Here is the actual bill that passed the Illinois legislature, which Obama voted against, during a time of very high gang crime activity:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/hbgroups/hb/920HB1812LV.html
You will see that this bill also mentions aggravated battery.
I made the case that Obama was against a bill that would toughen the laws against gang violence.
I was correct.
I also made the point that I did not bring up the death penalty.
On that technical point, I was also correct.
Did Obama offer an alternative, that would make crime or battery or murder, in support of gang activity, deserve a tougher penalty?
No, he did not.
I will admit that I was focused on the aggravated battery portion of this bill, not the death penalty portion.
However, Obama was against ANY tougher penalties for gang activity, whether they involved the death penalty or not.
Obama’s gang banger friends:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26002
It’s the same damn article you’ve already posted, Franklin.
“However, Obama was against ANY tougher penalties for gang activity, whether they involved the death penalty or not.”
Classic Harry Frankfurt style bullsh*t….again. The broadness of the death penalty provision was the controversial portion of the bill. To say that therefore Barack Obama was against ANY portion of the bill is not justified (just as it would be unfair, indeed absurd, to say that Bush opposed funding the war in Iraq when he vetoed the bill because he didn’t like the timetable).
You really will just say ANYTHING if you think it will serve your purposes will you?
“Did Obama offer an alternative, that would make crime or battery or murder, in support of gang activity, deserve a tougher penalty?”
Does that mean that Obama doesn’t support tough penalties for crime or battery or murder, regardless of whether they are a part of gang activity or not?
Answer, of course not.
Agnatha
Obama could have offered an Amendment to strip the part of the bill he did not like, out of the bill.
He did not.
I’ve been emailing people all day long to read this blog post, I’m totally waiting to reading more from you…