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	<title>Comments on: Obama more fun at a cookout?</title>
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		<title>By: Weight Loss</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-384099</link>
		<dc:creator>Weight Loss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Weight Loss...&lt;/strong&gt;

nice post about this.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Weight Loss&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>nice post about this&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-378103</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage, the blog had &quot;technical difficulties&quot; last night. Had nothing to do with the content of your posts.

But on the subject, I find the court ordering YouTube to turn over info to Viacom at LEAST as disturbing as warrantless wiretapping.

The retroactive immunity is just inexcusable under any circumstance. But then, I think warrantless wiretapping is too.

Phuck you viacom and  the court you rode in on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage, the blog had &#8220;technical difficulties&#8221; last night. Had nothing to do with the content of your posts.</p>
<p>But on the subject, I find the court ordering YouTube to turn over info to Viacom at LEAST as disturbing as warrantless wiretapping.</p>
<p>The retroactive immunity is just inexcusable under any circumstance. But then, I think warrantless wiretapping is too.</p>
<p>Phuck you viacom and  the court you rode in on!</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377963</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Linda.

If I seem &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; frustrated it&#039;s because the prevailing assumption among the stupid and politicos (I repeat myself) is that, even if this new type of surveillance violates the prohibition against &quot;general warrants&quot; that gave us the Fourth Amendment in the &lt;i&gt;first place&lt;/i&gt;, surely the &lt;i&gt;increased security&lt;/i&gt; of such measures makes them inevitable.

Yeah, yeah, I know all the arguments of the difficulty of tracing IP addresses to exact locations. It&#039;s mostly crap (in the Western world, it&#039;s a non-issue), but it&#039;s idiotic to presume that dragnet sweeps of international communications from United States will help, in any way. 

In fact, many experts agree with what I concluded at the outset: the more data, the more complexity, the false positives---and false negatives. It&#039;s a lazy-and-stupid person&#039;s method for fighting terrorism. And I don&#039;t care if the method is data mining, pattern mining or whatnot. &quot;Garbage in, garbage out&quot; still applies.

http://www.techworld.com/storage/features/index.cfm?featureid=2770
http://www.schneier.com/essay-108.htmles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_6_35/ai_109085440/pg_7
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800524.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Linda.</p>
<p>If I seem <i>very</i> frustrated it&#8217;s because the prevailing assumption among the stupid and politicos (I repeat myself) is that, even if this new type of surveillance violates the prohibition against &#8220;general warrants&#8221; that gave us the Fourth Amendment in the <i>first place</i>, surely the <i>increased security</i> of such measures makes them inevitable.</p>
<p>Yeah, yeah, I know all the arguments of the difficulty of tracing IP addresses to exact locations. It&#8217;s mostly crap (in the Western world, it&#8217;s a non-issue), but it&#8217;s idiotic to presume that dragnet sweeps of international communications from United States will help, in any way. </p>
<p>In fact, many experts agree with what I concluded at the outset: the more data, the more complexity, the false positives&#8212;and false negatives. It&#8217;s a lazy-and-stupid person&#8217;s method for fighting terrorism. And I don&#8217;t care if the method is data mining, pattern mining or whatnot. &#8220;Garbage in, garbage out&#8221; still applies.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techworld.com/storage/features/index.cfm?featureid=2770" rel="nofollow">http://www.techworld.com/storage/features/index.cfm?featureid=2770</a><br />
<a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-108.htmles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_6_35/ai_109085440/pg_7" rel="nofollow">http://www.schneier.com/essay-108.htmles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_6_35/ai_109085440/pg_7</a><br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800524.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800524.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377949</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tabloid media--CNN, Fox, MSNBC etc.--sucks. They have no interest at looking at any of the real issues. FISA is not covered, expect in asinine terms of Obama &quot;moving to the center.&quot; Like retroactively approving illegal activities of the Executive Branch is &quot;moving to the center.&quot;

Okay: NO Pacifica language, even with special characters--happy now???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tabloid media&#8211;CNN, Fox, MSNBC etc.&#8211;sucks. They have no interest at looking at any of the real issues. FISA is not covered, expect in asinine terms of Obama &#8220;moving to the center.&#8221; Like retroactively approving illegal activities of the Executive Branch is &#8220;moving to the center.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay: NO Pacifica language, even with special characters&#8211;happy now???</p>
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		<title>By: lindainks55</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377947</link>
		<dc:creator>lindainks55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got that page once, Rage.

I decided to think I know more than this computer.  Felt satisfying to tell myself that!  I really don&#039;t, ya know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got that page once, Rage.</p>
<p>I decided to think I know more than this computer.  Felt satisfying to tell myself that!  I really don&#8217;t, ya know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377944</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is fascinating: &lt;b&gt; twice now &lt;/b&gt; Wordpress, for reasons I have yet to discern (they haven&#039;t made any attempt to tell me) have thrown away my post. But when I attempt to repost it, I get this:

&lt;i&gt;Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you&#039;ve already said that!&lt;/i&gt;

Okay, Wordprsss, you are the dictators here. What did I say that offended you? Was it something about the state in which Austin resides (I didn&#039;t mention that state at all, but I expect your repeated censorship of my post is due to something equally mystifyingly crazy and mindless). 

At least I hope. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is fascinating: <b> twice now </b> Wordpress, for reasons I have yet to discern (they haven&#8217;t made any attempt to tell me) have thrown away my post. But when I attempt to repost it, I get this:</p>
<p><i>Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you&#8217;ve already said that!</i></p>
<p>Okay, Wordprsss, you are the dictators here. What did I say that offended you? Was it something about the state in which Austin resides (I didn&#8217;t mention that state at all, but I expect your repeated censorship of my post is due to something equally mystifyingly crazy and mindless). </p>
<p>At least I hope. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377929</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Phuck you Wordpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Phuck you Wordpress.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377928</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama FISA ?uck.

Just tesing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama FISA ?uck.</p>
<p>Just tesing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377926</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>??? My last post didn&#039;t &quot;take&quot;?  What&#039;s up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>??? My last post didn&#8217;t &#8220;take&#8221;?  What&#8217;s up?</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377827</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened, did I kill this thread?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened, did I kill this thread?</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377666</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They must have interpreted the questiona as &quot;Which Candidate do you think can make the best BBQ!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They must have interpreted the questiona as &#8220;Which Candidate do you think can make the best BBQ!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377640</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain was seen as being too old, and tough.

Obama is much younger and more tender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain was seen as being too old, and tough.</p>
<p>Obama is much younger and more tender.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377638</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people misunderstood the question.

They thought they were being asked which candidate they preferred to have Barbee Q&#039;d.  

Most preferred Obama, medium well with KC Masterpiece w Hickory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people misunderstood the question.</p>
<p>They thought they were being asked which candidate they preferred to have Barbee Q&#8217;d.  </p>
<p>Most preferred Obama, medium well with KC Masterpiece w Hickory.</p>
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		<title>By: TomPaine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377637</link>
		<dc:creator>TomPaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO people thought Bush was someone they could have a beer with? But Bush doesnt drink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO people thought Bush was someone they could have a beer with? But Bush doesnt drink</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377419</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chicken whispering? 

heheheheheheheheh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicken whispering? </p>
<p>heheheheheheheheh!</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377405</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#
ksfarmgrrl
Posted July 3, 2008 at 9:48 am &#124; Permalink

Hey, I’m a BLAST a a bbq or party.

Does that make me qualified to be preznit?

Big eye roll…
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Chicken whispering is a qualification to be the Cosmic Universe Leader though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#<br />
ksfarmgrrl<br />
Posted July 3, 2008 at 9:48 am | Permalink</p>
<p>Hey, I’m a BLAST a a bbq or party.</p>
<p>Does that make me qualified to be preznit?</p>
<p>Big eye roll…<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Chicken whispering is a qualification to be the Cosmic Universe Leader though.</p>
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		<title>By: mrcontroversy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377392</link>
		<dc:creator>mrcontroversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck with that.
Just when I thought I&#039;d made up my mind to support Obama come new reports out of DC that Kevin Martin will resign as FCC chair in late 2009 if Obama becomes president.
If Kyle McSlarrow&#039;s mouthy brags are true, there goes the digital transition... unless the other rumor I&#039;ve heard is true--that Obama is considering replacing Martin with former Pennsylvania congressman Ron Klink.
I&#039;d much rather he replace Adelson, who has become wayyy too chummy with the cable industry for my liking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with that.<br />
Just when I thought I&#8217;d made up my mind to support Obama come new reports out of DC that Kevin Martin will resign as FCC chair in late 2009 if Obama becomes president.<br />
If Kyle McSlarrow&#8217;s mouthy brags are true, there goes the digital transition&#8230; unless the other rumor I&#8217;ve heard is true&#8211;that Obama is considering replacing Martin with former Pennsylvania congressman Ron Klink.<br />
I&#8217;d much rather he replace Adelson, who has become wayyy too chummy with the cable industry for my liking.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377381</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,  PMama  ---  Seriously,  why  not  write his  Campaign  a  letter,  and  ask him to  come  for  a  BBQ  ----  Stress  Kansas/Small Town/College,  etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,  PMama  &#8212;  Seriously,  why  not  write his  Campaign  a  letter,  and  ask him to  come  for  a  BBQ  &#8212;-  Stress  Kansas/Small Town/College,  etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377379</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,  KFG,  you MIGHT  be!!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,  KFG,  you MIGHT  be!!  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377359</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;m a BLAST a a bbq or party.

Does that make me qualified to be preznit?

Big eye roll...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m a BLAST a a bbq or party.</p>
<p>Does that make me qualified to be preznit?</p>
<p>Big eye roll&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Political_mama</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377300</link>
		<dc:creator>Political_mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have Obama over for a BBQ so I could set him straight on who his base is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have Obama over for a BBQ so I could set him straight on who his base is.</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama-more-fun-at-a-cookout/#comment-377234</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, more fun..uh huh, yeah, okay...

What&#039;s next?

Who has the most Mousketeer potential?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, more fun..uh huh, yeah, okay&#8230;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next?</p>
<p>Who has the most Mousketeer potential?</p>
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