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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s faith-based initiative</title>
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		<title>By: faith based initiative</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-382966</link>
		<dc:creator>faith based initiative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but also expand President Bush??s faith-based initiative, which seeks to enlist churches?? help inhttp://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/Faith-based fudging. - By Mark A.R. Kleiman - Slate Magazine... President George W. Bush&#039;s favorite [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but also expand President Bush??s faith-based initiative, which seeks to enlist churches?? help inhttp://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/Faith-based fudging. &#8211; By Mark A.R. Kleiman &#8211; Slate Magazine&#8230; President George W. Bush&#8217;s favorite [...]</p>
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		<title>By: race deck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-381295</link>
		<dc:creator>race deck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] only continue but also expand President Bush??s faith-based initiative, which seeks to enlist churchhttp://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/Critical to SuccessHillary needs your help. With less than 24 hours left until the Pennsylvania [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] only continue but also expand President Bush??s faith-based initiative, which seeks to enlist churchhttp://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/Critical to SuccessHillary needs your help. With less than 24 hours left until the Pennsylvania [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-377652</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PreD - how did you find CSS to work with?  Cath Charities has been my family&#039;s biggest avenue for giving in recent years.  Even though I am NOT Catholic I like the way they operate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PreD &#8211; how did you find CSS to work with?  Cath Charities has been my family&#8217;s biggest avenue for giving in recent years.  Even though I am NOT Catholic I like the way they operate.</p>
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		<title>By: Predestined</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-377194</link>
		<dc:creator>Predestined</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KFG,

You probably won&#039;t see this, so I&#039;ll contact you privately, too, but just in case, I was adopted through Catholic Social Services.  I found and was in contact with my birthmother about 24 years ago.  I&#039;d be happy to share my journey and how I obtained information with you or anyone else interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KFG,</p>
<p>You probably won&#8217;t see this, so I&#8217;ll contact you privately, too, but just in case, I was adopted through Catholic Social Services.  I found and was in contact with my birthmother about 24 years ago.  I&#8217;d be happy to share my journey and how I obtained information with you or anyone else interested.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-377115</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kfg

   The 1920 Federal census for Kansas shows 52 entries for &quot;Crockett&quot;.

    I know that is WAY earlier than you were born. That is way before even your parents would have been born. But your grandfather might be among them.

    For what it is worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kfg</p>
<p>   The 1920 Federal census for Kansas shows 52 entries for &#8220;Crockett&#8221;.</p>
<p>    I know that is WAY earlier than you were born. That is way before even your parents would have been born. But your grandfather might be among them.</p>
<p>    For what it is worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-377113</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. By and large, my favorite response to Nathan&#039;s bigoted crap:

&lt;i&gt;That’s nice Nathaniel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. By and large, my favorite response to Nathan&#8217;s bigoted crap:</p>
<p><i>That’s nice Nathaniel.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-377111</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Adoptees: thanks for the enlightenment, though I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d share that much on an online forum.

Just sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Adoptees: thanks for the enlightenment, though I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d share that much on an online forum.</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-377109</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama now claims that he supported the Welfare Reform Bill a Republican Congress passed, and President Clinton signed.&quot;

Okay, Paul.

Link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama now claims that he supported the Welfare Reform Bill a Republican Congress passed, and President Clinton signed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, Paul.</p>
<p>Link?</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-377107</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama now claims that he supported the Welfare Reform Bill a Republican Congress passed, and President Clinton signed.
This was a dumb mistake, for Obama.
Obama was absoluletly opposed to Welfare Reform.
Obama is on the record as being against Welfare Reform, and this will hurt him --- If and only if McCain is smart enough to use this issue against Obama.

On the Faith Based stuff, do you folks realize that &quot;left leaning&quot; churches benefit greatly from these &quot;Faith based initiatives&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama now claims that he supported the Welfare Reform Bill a Republican Congress passed, and President Clinton signed.<br />
This was a dumb mistake, for Obama.<br />
Obama was absoluletly opposed to Welfare Reform.<br />
Obama is on the record as being against Welfare Reform, and this will hurt him &#8212; If and only if McCain is smart enough to use this issue against Obama.</p>
<p>On the Faith Based stuff, do you folks realize that &#8220;left leaning&#8221; churches benefit greatly from these &#8220;Faith based initiatives&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-377086</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK  --  Obama  wants  to  DO AWAY  with  the  Bush  plan  on  faith  based initiatives...  in  that  Obama  does  NOT  want  to  allow  hiring/firing decisions  made on the basis of  religious belief...  IF  the  group  is  receiving  Fed.  funds...   IF  the  group  does  NOT  receive  Fed. Funds,   it  doesnt  matter  who  they hire or  fire,  or  what  they  require for  beliefs....  

Example &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   Church  ABC  runs  a feeding  program or  homeless  people...  They  apply for,  AND  receive  Fed.  Funds for  assistance...

A  local  Buddhist follower  comes  to the  Director  and  wants  to  work the  food line,  for  $5.00  per hour(what is  usually  paid  to  work  food lines  at homeless  feeding  programs)...   But  the  Buddhist  is  told  they  cannot  work  there  because of  their  Non-Christian  beliefs....  

Church  ABC  would  then  LOSE  their  Fed.  Funding....   


Example 2  &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Chuch  XYZ   runs  a  Scout Troop...   They  receive  NO  FED FUNDS  for  the  operation of  the  Troop....   A  young  man,  who professes  to be  part of  a  local  Wiccan  Group,  applies  for  the  position  of  Asst.  Scout Master.   The  Pastor  of  Church  XYZ  informs  the  young  man  that one  must  be  a  Christian,  and  join the  congregation,  in  order  to  be  employed  there....   

The  Church XYZ  is within its  rights  to  hold  such  a  ruling...   

A  year  goes  by...  The  Church XYZ  applies  for,  and  receives,  Fed.  Funds  for  purchasing  some new  camping  equipment for  their Scout Troop...  

The  young  wiccan  man  hears  about  this,  and  returns to apply  for  the  position of  Asst.  Scout  Master  once  again...   

Again,  the  Pastor  tells  him  that  he has  to be a member of  the Church  and  a  Christian,  in  order  to  be  hired  as  Asst.  Scout Master...

The young  man&#039;s  attorney  writes  to  the  Pastor,  that  as  long as  the  Church  receives  Fed.  Funding  to  help  with  the  Scout   Troop,  they  cannot discriminate  on  their  hiring  practices,  and  demand  that  their  Scout  staff  be  Christian  and  belong  to  that  Church...   

This has  been  the  case  for  a  long  time...  This is  why  I  normally  advise  congregations  NOT  to  accept  Fed.  funding  for  Church  projects...   Period....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK  &#8212;  Obama  wants  to  DO AWAY  with  the  Bush  plan  on  faith  based initiatives&#8230;  in  that  Obama  does  NOT  want  to  allow  hiring/firing decisions  made on the basis of  religious belief&#8230;  IF  the  group  is  receiving  Fed.  funds&#8230;   IF  the  group  does  NOT  receive  Fed. Funds,   it  doesnt  matter  who  they hire or  fire,  or  what  they  require for  beliefs&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Example &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   Church  ABC  runs  a feeding  program or  homeless  people&#8230;  They  apply for,  AND  receive  Fed.  Funds for  assistance&#8230;</p>
<p>A  local  Buddhist follower  comes  to the  Director  and  wants  to  work the  food line,  for  $5.00  per hour(what is  usually  paid  to  work  food lines  at homeless  feeding  programs)&#8230;   But  the  Buddhist  is  told  they  cannot  work  there  because of  their  Non-Christian  beliefs&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Church  ABC  would  then  LOSE  their  Fed.  Funding&#8230;.   </p>
<p>Example 2  &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Chuch  XYZ   runs  a  Scout Troop&#8230;   They  receive  NO  FED FUNDS  for  the  operation of  the  Troop&#8230;.   A  young  man,  who professes  to be  part of  a  local  Wiccan  Group,  applies  for  the  position  of  Asst.  Scout Master.   The  Pastor  of  Church  XYZ  informs  the  young  man  that one  must  be  a  Christian,  and  join the  congregation,  in  order  to  be  employed  there&#8230;.   </p>
<p>The  Church XYZ  is within its  rights  to  hold  such  a  ruling&#8230;   </p>
<p>A  year  goes  by&#8230;  The  Church XYZ  applies  for,  and  receives,  Fed.  Funds  for  purchasing  some new  camping  equipment for  their Scout Troop&#8230;  </p>
<p>The  young  wiccan  man  hears  about  this,  and  returns to apply  for  the  position of  Asst.  Scout  Master  once  again&#8230;   </p>
<p>Again,  the  Pastor  tells  him  that  he has  to be a member of  the Church  and  a  Christian,  in  order  to  be  hired  as  Asst.  Scout Master&#8230;</p>
<p>The young  man&#8217;s  attorney  writes  to  the  Pastor,  that  as  long as  the  Church  receives  Fed.  Funding  to  help  with  the  Scout   Troop,  they  cannot discriminate  on  their  hiring  practices,  and  demand  that  their  Scout  staff  be  Christian  and  belong  to  that  Church&#8230;   </p>
<p>This has  been  the  case  for  a  long  time&#8230;  This is  why  I  normally  advise  congregations  NOT  to  accept  Fed.  funding  for  Church  projects&#8230;   Period&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Political_mama</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376917</link>
		<dc:creator>Political_mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just why would I give you any such information McCluer?

Idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just why would I give you any such information McCluer?</p>
<p>Idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: LLTVET</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376907</link>
		<dc:creator>LLTVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KSFG, it was pretty cool when I found out that Laura and I had the same little quirks.  It was strange because we were separated since 18 months of age, but blood was thicker than water. 

I will try an adoption lawyer again.  Last time I did it, he tried to get me to sue the state for separating twins.  (rolls eyes)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KSFG, it was pretty cool when I found out that Laura and I had the same little quirks.  It was strange because we were separated since 18 months of age, but blood was thicker than water. </p>
<p>I will try an adoption lawyer again.  Last time I did it, he tried to get me to sue the state for separating twins.  (rolls eyes)</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376904</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve had no success, and my mother would be 71 or so.&quot;

Ms. Grrl, send me a private e-mail and maybe I can give you some helpful hints.

WSClark52@gmail.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve had no success, and my mother would be 71 or so.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ms. Grrl, send me a private e-mail and maybe I can give you some helpful hints.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:WSClark52@gmail.com">WSClark52@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376900</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You would see churches which do good, left out while they watch other chruches which embrace secular humanism and sacrifice their doctrines for government funding.&quot;

Tough shit - no discrimination or no funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You would see churches which do good, left out while they watch other chruches which embrace secular humanism and sacrifice their doctrines for government funding.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tough shit &#8211; no discrimination or no funding.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376899</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LLTVET, have you talked to an adoption lawyer? I dont think Kansas can seal a birth certificate. As Clark noted, Kansas has always had very open adoption laws.

I am an only child, so meeting siblings would be very cool. I have no intention of forming a relationship with them or other family members and am not trying to cause trouble or disrupt their lives. I just want to know some things.

And, wistfully, it would be nice to see that I looked like someone. I so envy family resemblance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LLTVET, have you talked to an adoption lawyer? I dont think Kansas can seal a birth certificate. As Clark noted, Kansas has always had very open adoption laws.</p>
<p>I am an only child, so meeting siblings would be very cool. I have no intention of forming a relationship with them or other family members and am not trying to cause trouble or disrupt their lives. I just want to know some things.</p>
<p>And, wistfully, it would be nice to see that I looked like someone. I so envy family resemblance.</p>
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		<title>By: LLTVET</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376897</link>
		<dc:creator>LLTVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s nice Nathaniel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s nice Nathaniel.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376896</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto Clark. I&#039;ve had no success, and my mother would be 71 or so. That means time is running out.

Nathan?

&quot;That would truely be one step closer in the church simply becoming another wing of the government.&quot;

As opposed, I guess, to the government becoming another wing of the church.

I have always said that CHURCH people should be more afraid of the church/state merger than secularists. It could so easily be turned against the churches.

Ask my relatives in Russia....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto Clark. I&#8217;ve had no success, and my mother would be 71 or so. That means time is running out.</p>
<p>Nathan?</p>
<p>&#8220;That would truely be one step closer in the church simply becoming another wing of the government.&#8221;</p>
<p>As opposed, I guess, to the government becoming another wing of the church.</p>
<p>I have always said that CHURCH people should be more afraid of the church/state merger than secularists. It could so easily be turned against the churches.</p>
<p>Ask my relatives in Russia&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: LLTVET</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376893</link>
		<dc:creator>LLTVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KSFG.  When I asked for it, they gave me the one with my adopted parents name.  In a way, meeting my (what I call biological siblings) was cool, but it ended up being very confusing.  

Now my twin sister was able to get her original one because she was put in several foster homes but never adopted outright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KSFG.  When I asked for it, they gave me the one with my adopted parents name.  In a way, meeting my (what I call biological siblings) was cool, but it ended up being very confusing.  </p>
<p>Now my twin sister was able to get her original one because she was put in several foster homes but never adopted outright.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376890</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately for me, I was born in such a small &quot;town&quot; in such a sparsely inhabited country that obtaining my original birth certificate was incredibly easy - and I also remembered by birth name - the whole process of finding family took about 90 days.

I wish all adoptees success  in their pursuit of birth family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately for me, I was born in such a small &#8220;town&#8221; in such a sparsely inhabited country that obtaining my original birth certificate was incredibly easy &#8211; and I also remembered by birth name &#8211; the whole process of finding family took about 90 days.</p>
<p>I wish all adoptees success  in their pursuit of birth family.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376889</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think faith based programs are good.... but the fears I had about it are more true under Obama if it is true that:

&quot;Wrong. Obama’s program would deny funds to those organizations that discriminate based on religious creed or sexual orientation.&quot;

If that is true the government will basically be paying the church to change it&#039;s doctrine.

That would truely be one step closer in the church simply becoming another wing of the government.

You would see churches which do good, left out while they watch other chruches which embrace secular humanism and sacrifice their doctrines for government funding.

Also those churches which are already liberal and have sacrificed doctrine would be rewarded while those that have not will not.

Now we are talking scary.

I am sure you liberals won&#039;t mind it one bit at all though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think faith based programs are good&#8230;. but the fears I had about it are more true under Obama if it is true that:</p>
<p>&#8220;Wrong. Obama’s program would deny funds to those organizations that discriminate based on religious creed or sexual orientation.&#8221;</p>
<p>If that is true the government will basically be paying the church to change it&#8217;s doctrine.</p>
<p>That would truely be one step closer in the church simply becoming another wing of the government.</p>
<p>You would see churches which do good, left out while they watch other chruches which embrace secular humanism and sacrifice their doctrines for government funding.</p>
<p>Also those churches which are already liberal and have sacrificed doctrine would be rewarded while those that have not will not.</p>
<p>Now we are talking scary.</p>
<p>I am sure you liberals won&#8217;t mind it one bit at all though.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376887</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LLVET, my adoptive mother had a copy of it. But as Clark noted, if you were born in Kansas, I think you should be able to get one from Vital Statistics. It&#039;s helpful if you already know your birth name, or your birth mother&#039;s name. I found that out through my adoptive Mom also, and then opened the court records.

I know it was painful for Mom, but she knew I needed to know. Bless her.

No trace of my father. Just listed as &quot;unknown&quot; which, of course, may or may not be true.

I&#039;d like to know if I have siblings. And a little medical history would be helpful too!

My family name is Crockett.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LLVET, my adoptive mother had a copy of it. But as Clark noted, if you were born in Kansas, I think you should be able to get one from Vital Statistics. It&#8217;s helpful if you already know your birth name, or your birth mother&#8217;s name. I found that out through my adoptive Mom also, and then opened the court records.</p>
<p>I know it was painful for Mom, but she knew I needed to know. Bless her.</p>
<p>No trace of my father. Just listed as &#8220;unknown&#8221; which, of course, may or may not be true.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know if I have siblings. And a little medical history would be helpful too!</p>
<p>My family name is Crockett.</p>
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		<title>By: LLTVET</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376884</link>
		<dc:creator>LLTVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting to hear Clark.  Now I know how my twin sister and I were able to meet.  Some lady at the Maude Carpenter Children&#039;s home let my sister see the record and &quot;went to get a cup of coffee&quot;  

That was about the only good thing that the Maude Carpenter Children&#039;s home did that I can be thankful for.  Get out of the way and let twins find each other. 
 

KSFG, how did you get your original birth certificate?  So far for me, no luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting to hear Clark.  Now I know how my twin sister and I were able to meet.  Some lady at the Maude Carpenter Children&#8217;s home let my sister see the record and &#8220;went to get a cup of coffee&#8221;  </p>
<p>That was about the only good thing that the Maude Carpenter Children&#8217;s home did that I can be thankful for.  Get out of the way and let twins find each other. </p>
<p>KSFG, how did you get your original birth certificate?  So far for me, no luck.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376882</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I didnt answer your question. Yes, I was born in Topeka and adopted through the Winfield office of LSS, which is now closed. I contacted the Wichita office some time ago, and was received less than cordially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I didnt answer your question. Yes, I was born in Topeka and adopted through the Winfield office of LSS, which is now closed. I contacted the Wichita office some time ago, and was received less than cordially.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376880</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough Clark. And the info I have did indeed come from the court system and my original birth certificate. LSS was NO help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough Clark. And the info I have did indeed come from the court system and my original birth certificate. LSS was NO help.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/obama%e2%80%99s-faith-based-initiative/#comment-376870</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I have my own issues with how they kept records and how “helpful” they’ve been with finding my birth parents. Not.&quot;

I found my birth families about ten years ago - I missed a lot in my life - although my actual birth parents would need a lot of improvement just to reach POS status.

Were you born in Kansas? At last count, Kansas and Alaska were the only two states that allowed open adoption records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I have my own issues with how they kept records and how “helpful” they’ve been with finding my birth parents. Not.&#8221;</p>
<p>I found my birth families about ten years ago &#8211; I missed a lot in my life &#8211; although my actual birth parents would need a lot of improvement just to reach POS status.</p>
<p>Were you born in Kansas? At last count, Kansas and Alaska were the only two states that allowed open adoption records.</p>
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