McCain is a Roosevelt conservative

rooseveltteddy.jpg“I count myself as a conservative Republican, yet I view it to a large degree in the Theodore Roosevelt mold,” John McCain told the New York Times. He said he identified with Roosevelt as a reformer and environmentalist who had an assertive foreign policy.
“I believe less governance is the best governance, and that government should not do what the free enterprise and private enterprise and individual entrepreneurship and the states can do, but I also believe there is a role for government,” McCain said. He added: “Government should take care of those in America who cannot take care of themselves.”

43 Comments

  1. JWink
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    John McCain: Your comparison to Theodore Roosevelt is a commendable overview of your positions. I’ll buy that. Also use more of those Johnny Carson mannerisms and I think you’ll have it made.

  2. YellowdogLiberal
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    “Government should take care of those in America who cannot take care of themselves.”

    Sounds like one of those dad-blamed liburals to me.
    Snort, snort.

    No wonder the right hates him.

    Dennis

  3. lindainks55
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    At which point is he comparing himself to Theodore Roosevelt?

    Would it be when he voted against tax cuts or when he says he will make them permanent?

    Was it when he supported campaign fiance reform and put his name on the bill or when he abandoned same legislation?

    Would it have been when he was against torture or when he caved into bushco?

    Anti or pro ethanol?

    For or against overturning Roe v Wade?

    Which of his deeply-held convictions represents him today? How about tomorrow?

  4. ANTI
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    McCain is not a Conservative.

  5. ANTI
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    He is a lesser Democrat.

  6. Heckler
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Yellowdogpoo

    ““Government should take care of those in America who cannot take care of themselves.”
    Sounds like one of those dad-blamed liburals to me.
    Snort, snort.”

    No Dog, the dad-blamed liurals say it like this-

    “Government should take care of as many of those in America who will let us, thus giving us unimaginable power to toy with EVEYONES lives”

  7. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    “Government should take care of those in America who cannot take care of themselves.”

    When people can’t get their out of banks due to runs on said banks, those not able to care for themselves will start to be a growing number.

    We need less regulation, Mr. Bernanke, not more. Free markets are the simple fixes we need for everything imaginable. /scarcasm

  8. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    scarcasm = sarcasm

  9. Pleefer
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Hahahahahahaha! Only not really. What an ass.

  10. Pleefer
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Meaning McCain.

  11. StevenEDavis
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    “Government should take care of those in America who cannot take care of themselves.”

    When people can’t get their money out of banks due to runs on said banks, those not able to care for themselves will start to be a growing number.

    We need less regulation, Mr. Bernanke, not more. Free markets are the simple fixes we need for everything imaginable. /sarcasm

    Sorry for the double post, just wanting to be clear.

  12. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    “Government should take care of those in America who cannot take care of themselves.”

    I can’t argue with that. It’s the Libs who believe we should help those who WILL NOT take care of themselves.

  13. lindainks55
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Like Freddie and Fannie? How about some nice big tax breaks for big oil? big pharma? big business of all sorts?

    Uh huh, both parties give away the money they take from taxpayers. Government doesn’t generate revenue, they take it and give it away — and then some!

    Government grew larger, stuck her nose further and deeper into places her nose didn’t belong and spent more money than any period before under total Republican dominance — bush as pres, majorities in both the House and Senate. For six years they did nothing but spend more than had ever been spent before.

    Every part of government, every member of every party lives in a glass house this time around. No one dares throw a stone!

  14. Posted July 15, 2008 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    In what alternate universe is mcsame an environmentalist?

  15. Heckler
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    linda

    Fannie and Freddie are private companies run by the government. They have their own set of special rules and laws to run by. And the people who run them (government beaurocrats) ran them into the ground on risky loans.

    And now I get to help pay for their screw-up.

  16. Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Government employees? ROFLMAO!

    Uh, how many “government employees” ran Bear Stearns and Countrywide into the ground.

    jesus WEPT!

  17. Rage
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Would it be when he voted against tax cuts or when he says he will make them permanent?

    Indeed, Linda, that’s a quite relevant question
    Can you imagine John McCain uttering this line?:

    A heavy progressive tax upon a very large fortune is in no way such a tax upon thrift or industry as a like would be on a small fortune. No advantage comes either to the country as a whole or to the individuals inheriting the money by permitting the transmission in their entirety of the enormous fortunes which would be affected by such a tax; and as an incident to its function of revenue raising, such a tax would help to preserve a measurable equality of opportunity for the people of the generations growing to manhood. We have not the slightest sympathy with that socialistic idea which would try to put laziness, thriftlessness and inefficiency on a par with industry, thrift and efficiency; which would strive to break up not merely private property, but what is far more important, the home, the chief prop upon which our whole civilization stands. Such a theory, if ever adopted, would mean the ruin of the entire country–a ruin which would bear heaviest upon the weakest, upon those least able to shift for themselves.

    http://www.tax.org/Museum/1901-1932.htm

  18. SolDevVB
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    In what alternate universe is mcsame an environmentalist?

    Cap & trade Farmie.

  19. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    “Which of his deeply-held convictions represents him today? How about tomorrow?”

    Linda, I thought you were for B. Hussein Obama.

  20. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    “Roosevelt conservative”

    Isn’t that like Jumbo Shrimp?

  21. WSClark
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Explain to us, Fleetwood, what is the importance of the “Hussein” portion of Barack Obama’s name. Is using his middle name in such a manner supposed to make us think that he is in some manner related in thought or actuality to Saddam Hussein?

    It’s a freakin’ name. George W Bush’s middle name is Walker – I don’t see the conservatives referring to him as G. Walker Bush – so what gives with your usage of Barack’s name?

  22. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    clark, you will have to ask one of your Lib buddies.

  23. lindainks55
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    I’ll answer. Choose me, wsc.

    fleetwood has won awards, hasn’t s/he? Has a reputation to defend?

  24. Posted July 15, 2008 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    that’s a wonderful idea

  25. Posted July 15, 2008 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    I can see McCain as a Roosevelt conservative when it comes to liberating countries that don’t need liberating and sending in soldiers to get slaughtered so he can sit out the battle but suck up all the glory.

    However, I doubt McCain will be the one to promote industry regulation like Roosevelt did. Quite the opposite actually. McCain fought for deregulation which led to such great McCain achievements as the S&L scandal and now the housing collapse due too weakening the Glass-Steagall Act.

  26. Rage
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Please share your delight at “Isiah Hickman”’s post with a throwaway email address, and send a nice large email to postmaster@hotellondons.com.

    Even better, if you have easy access to mailing scripts, put it in an endless loop. . . .

  27. WSClark
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    “clark, you will have to ask one of your Lib buddies”

    Naw, Fleetie, tell me why you refer to Barack by his middle name, but you don’t refer to George as “Walker” or John as “Sidney.”

    Why the hypocrisy, Fleetwood?

  28. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    “Why the hypocrisy, Fleetwood?”

    A man’s name is a man’s name. Don’t be ashamed.
    John Sidney McCain
    Barack Hussein Obama

    Ain’t no thing.

  29. WSClark
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    “Ain’t no thing.”

    So why did YOU abbreviate it to B. Hussein Obama – YOU don’t refer to them as G. Walker Bush or J. Sydney McCain – so why the change for Obama?

    Eh?

  30. Monkeyhawk
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    One antidote to the grimness of Iraq is a strong return to reform as a theme. John McCain “will reform government,” declared a bolded bullet point in a set of talking points recently distributed by his campaign. But, unlike in 2000, it’s not clear that McCain really means it. In a speech in Michigan, McCain vowed to use presidential vetoes to rein in congressional spending and also to eliminate the alternative minimum tax’s bite on middle-class families. But, while McCain spun both of those proposals as “reform,” neither bears much resemblance to his Teddy Roosevelt-style crusading of 2000. (Backing middle-class tax cuts, which will expand the deficit, is hardly a model of political courage.) Meanwhile, McCain panned Democratic proposals to tax massive private-equity profits as income rather than capital gains. Shutting a tax loophole for hedge-fund billionaires during wartime? This once would have been a sweet-spot issue for McCain, who, borrowing from T.R., used to lament “the new malefactors of wealth.” Instead, in Michigan, McCain sneered at the “fuss over ‘reforming’ the tax treatment of private equity firms” and the “mumbo jumbo” of Democrats trying to enact a “tax hike.” Maybe standing up for hedge-fund managers really is McCain’s idea of being a reformer. But it’s hard to imagine many voters, particularly those who flocked to him in 2000, agreeing.

    A quick Nexis search indicates that McCain has not repeated that “malefactors of wealth” line in this campaign. McCain’s celebration of a watered-down version of TR is symbolic of the watered-down version of McCain 2000 we see today. –TNR

  31. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    “so why the change for Obama?”

    Who cares?

  32. WSClark
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    “Who cares?”

    Apparently YOU do, Fleetwood, or you would not have made a point of referring to him by his middle name – so why do you do that to Obama but not to Walker Bush or Sydney McCain?

  33. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    “so why do you do that to Obama but not to Walker Bush or Sydney McCain?”

    You will have to ask your Lib buddies.

    linda has already volunterred.

    It has something to do with geese.

  34. WSClark
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    “You will have to ask your Lib buddies.”

    You tried that line once already, Fleetwood. Why can’t you honestly answer the question?

    You used his middle name, so answer as to why.

    Easy, right?

  35. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    Libs use McCains middle name. No big deal.

  36. fleettwood
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Methinks this website has been taken over by the spammers.

  37. WSClark
    Posted July 15, 2008 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    “Libs use McCains middle name. No big deal.”

    Copy and paste where a liberal has used the name J. Sydney McCain, except in direct response to a B. Hussein Obama comment…………….

  38. Rage
    Posted July 16, 2008 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    Methinks this website has been taken over by the spammers.

    Taken over? Not really. There are much worst infestations out there, but the trend is definitely negative.

    http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/07/15/2025220.shtml

    On the sorta-up, sorta-down side, the first emergent “intelligence” (so to speak) may turn out to be a malicious bot cluster.

  39. writerdog
    Posted July 16, 2008 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Obama goes before the NAACP and states that Black people need to stand for themselves and take responsibility for their own lives and families. Mc Cain goes before the NAACP and tell them that the Government will take care of them. Remember me, whom is the Conservative and whom is the Liberal?

  40. Rage
    Posted July 16, 2008 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Heh, yeah, no kidding, dog. And while the man’s entitled to his opinion, I fail to see how it’s relevant to running the country. Someone needs to remind him he’s running for president, not Big Daddy–though I suspect he knows exactly what he’s doing (sigh).

    Haven’t yet had a chance to examine the man’s foreign policy speech, but it’s gotta be smarter than McCain’s phallic fantasies.

  41. writerdog
    Posted July 16, 2008 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Rage unfortunately I have looked at McCain’s foreign policy, it really is Bush’s foreign policy.
    It is bizarre that he is said to be educated on foreign affairs and yet has the same clueless policy of G.W. Bush. I would have thought he was smarter than to fall for the same Neo-con crap that get Bush to invade Iraq and alienate the rest of the world.

    McCain is just as clueless on the economics front but then the same people advising him also advised Bush.

  42. fleettwood
    Posted July 16, 2008 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    “Copy and paste where a liberal has used the name J. Sydney McCain, except in direct response to a B. Hussein Obama comment…………….”

    You are behind the curve on this one. Your Lib buddies will attest to that. My B. Hussein deal only came from the John Sidney McCain deal.
    I didn’t start it.

  43. outlander
    Posted July 16, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    “Obama goes before the NAACP and states that Black people need to stand for themselves and take responsibility for their own lives and families. Mc Cain goes before the NAACP and tell them that the Government will take care of them. Remember me, whom is the Conservative and whom is the Liberal?” – WriterDog

    —————–

    Umm.. WD, I’m thinking that an old white guy going into the NAALCP convention and telling them that the black community needs to stop destructive behaviors and start taking responsibility… well, that might not have been too well received.

    I applaud Obama for saying what he did. It’s about time. But there is no way McCain could have.

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