Though Barack Obama holds a 6 to 8 percentage point lead over John McCain in national polls, McCain has closed the gap in three key battleground states. The two are now in a statistical dead heat in Colorado, Michigan and Minnesota, according to a new poll. And such states are likely to decide who wins in November.
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15 point race gap.
When we were landing I could believe how a statistical dead heat was. We are shown to John McCain (which has a statistical dead heat, hmmmm. Love John McCain.
No way America is so stupid that McCain will win. I think the majority of us have had enough of Republican ideology taking us down the toilet.
It’s probably going to be another close election. I can’t believe that someone with such an unlikable personality like John McCain could get so close to the US presidency. It’s scary to even think about!
Yeah. And Obama has broken 50% for the first time in Pennsylvania. 51% Obama to 45% McCain, with +3% margin of error.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/pennsylvania/election_2008_pennsylvania_presidential_election2
As for the Quinnipac numbers in Colorado, Michigan, and Minnesota, they don’t jibe with what all the other polls are saying. Races in these states are close (although Rasmussen has Obama up by 16 in Minnesota), but Obama leads them all. To varying degrees of narrowness, but he leads them all.
And the July 23 national Gallup poll has Obama moving up in purple states, with McCain moving down–consistently.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/109036/Obama-Gains-Over-McCain-Swing-States-Since-June.aspx
Conclusion? Quinnipiac’s numbers don’t appear consistent with the trends that are visible nationally in other polls. Somebody on another blog wondered whether they’re only calling landlines.
It’s a done deal! ;-)
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks
It seems Barry is the savior of the world. I guess that is why he is preaching to the world. It is sad if we vote him in despite the fact he:
never ran anything
has flipped on at least 10 major items
was a drug abuser
He is an ego maniac, remember the only books he wrote were about himself.
Wide assortment of polls here:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
Of course, everyone remembers what happened last time when polls were used to predict an election.
(chortles)
Poll Schmoll,
McCain is so crusty, his appearance alone will kill any chance he has to win. Then, listening to his idiotic doofy explanations only makes me think of GWB, and that is poison.
McCain will lose GE by 18%.
I am also predicting he will suffer a major health crisis before the election. The guy will have a heart attack.
jjj,
Obama was a drug abuser? Really? Was he as into coke as George W. Bush was–and is–into booze?
Keep trying, Repubican losers. Maybe one of the Obama memes you keep trying to throw around will stick.
If you missed The Daily Show last night, it’s worth the time to catch this little video making fun of BOTH major parties presumptive nominees. Keeps things in perspective.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/
Michigan’s a “statistical dead heat” and that’s bad news for Obama? Michigan has always been a battleground state. Colorado is a “statistical dead heat” and that’s bad news for Obama? Colorado all the square states have been solid Red states for generations. What’s a Republic Party candidate doing in a “statistical dead heat” in the Mountain states in the first place. Minnesota is a goofy state; sometimes red, sometimes blue, sometimes whatever color Jesse Ventura’s wrestling tights were. There’s a high-profile Senate race that’s activated the Republic Party drones against Al Franken.
This will be close, just as the last 2 were. the closer to teh election it gets, the closer it will become. The more people get to know Obama, the less they like him; not because he’s a bad guy, but because there’s very little “there” there.
He’s an empty suit. A tool of the Daley machine. How does one go from one term boy wonder to President? Connections – the kind of connections the Daley machine specializes in.
A different kind of politician? Not hardly.
Who cares. THis is only July.
For Democrats, there is still hope for an…interesting convention.
As things stand now, I do not plan to vote.
“Of course, everyone remembers what happened last time when polls were used to predict an election.” — They predicted a Democratic takeover of the house and senate?
Blue Jay–
How does a person who believes in democracy not want the guy who got the most votes to be the candidate?
The one sure way that Democrats could lose in November is to tell all the voters that support Obama to go eff themselves, your votes don’t matter even though your guy won, we’re picking another candidate.
THAT would be political suicide.
*****
Regular asks sarcastically, “of course, everyone remembers what happened last time when polls were used to predict an election.”
Indeed we do. The polls were right and the election was stolen.
Under a fair election, Democrats would have won the presidency in 2000 and probably in 2004 (see Ohio).
Actually, Berber, the polls predicted a takeover of the House. The Senate was a bonus.
If I were Obama, I’d start campaigning on “are you better off than you were four years ago?”
“Is your country better off than it was four years ago?”
The only difference between McCain and Worst. President. Ever. is that McCain is richer (by marriage), older, and . . .
That’s pretty much it.
“The one sure way that Democrats could lose in November is to tell all the voters that support Obama to go eff themselves,”
Isn’t that what Obama has basically done to the supporters of Senator Clinton, his base, the Democratic party and anyone else who is not bleating “chaaa aaaange!!”?
I’m sorry Capn. I can almost HEAR Obama joking at me.
“Now…come on. You can…sit down and work things out with the cons! They’re people…too.”
No thanks.
“GMC70″ lies –
[Obama is] “A tool of the Daley machine.”
You’ve claimed this several times. I finally got around to reading the Obama profile in the New Yorker (July 21) which belies your little snark.
The Daley Machine fought Obama tooth and nail until he whupped them in the State Senate race in ‘96.
The Clintons are a formidable political force in the Democratic Party. Obama whupped them, too.
Is Obama “just another politician?”
Yup. And a damned good one.
Lincoln was just another politician, the Roosevelts were politicians, Reagan was just another politician, the Clintons are politicians, McC*nt is a politician. Funny how, when it comes to politics, you come in contact with a lot of politicians. It’s like going to a Dental Convention and running into a bunch of dentists. HORRORS!!
You CONs reek of desperation. Flop-sweat with your little Dorf of a senile candidate, you’re down to making mud pies out of your own s#it. Have fun tossing them.
You know BlueJay, if you voted for McCain, that would REALLY piss Obama off….He wouldn’t poke you with a stick any more..
Listen…you must watch this. It will take about three minutes, but very interesting, entertaining and you might just learn something.
I refrain from comment, you view, your decide.
The Super Tuesday Presidential Prophecy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfyHQ2PjLzk
And another commenting on Barack’s “Change, change, change”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7b0STJ_9k&feature=related
BlueJay–
I don’t want Obama to cave into the CONs either.
Unfortunately, that’s what the Clinton’s DID during most of their eight years in office.
See for instance the “Defense of Marriage Act” outlawing gay marriage signed into law under Clinton, the successful push for NAFTA over the complaints of a Democratic Congress, welfare reform (consisting of throwing homeless and mentally ill people to the wolves), and cutting taxes on the SuperRich more than Bush did.
Here’s what Jim Hightower–real populist–says about The Clintons’ in his latest “Lowdown”:
Take the corporatization of Bill Clinton’s administration. He had run a populist-minded campaign in 1992, pledging to challenge corporate greed and promising to be the president of working families. Come ‘93, however, such corporate hands as Robert Rubin were awarded strategic positions. A prince of Wall Street who’d been one the campaign’s top fund raisers, Rubin was ensconced as head of Clinton’s economic council–and he served there as corporate America’s inside hit man, responsible for taking populist proposals down into a dark basement and throttling them.
In his first State of the Union speech, for example, Clinton proposed that tax write-offs for a corporate CEO’s bloated paycheck be limited to “only” the first million bucks. The very next night, CEOs of several major corporations swarmed Rubin at a Manhattan dinner, wailing about Clinton’s “cheap populism.” Rubin, who’d been a $26-million man at Goldman Sachs, definitely felt their pain, and he smoothed their ruffled feathers with these words: “That’s not the real Bill Clinton.”
Apparently not. With Rubin counseling that it wasn’t good to make CEOs jittery, Clinton immediately dropped the idea. He never brought it up again.
“Tell me with whom you walk,” goes the old adage, “and I’ll tell you who you are.”
*****
And it was Hillary, was it not, who faced right-wing opposition on her health care plan and so she simply gave up on it.
I’d rather take my chances on a new face who might cave into the pressure of the right than an old one who has a past history of doing so . . .
The only way McCane can get elected is if his pals at Diebold come through, and I’m not sure even they can overcome the national disgust with the republicans at this point.
“No way America is so stupid that McCain will win. I think the majority of us have had enough of Republican ideology taking us down the toilet.”
The problem is Mary, despite the claims of some Democratic partisans here, the foul weather voters who “have had enough of Republican ideology” may actually feel comfortable voting for John McCain, because of his reputation as a maverick. This year, the conventions of both parties take on large importance. The third rail for the Republicans this year is the possibility of either a platform fight, or an effort by the coalition conservative and Christian Right elements of the party to make certain that their viewpoints are heard loud and clear at the convention (one of the major turning points in the 1992 election was Pat Buchanan’s “raw meat” speech at the Republican Convention). There are a lot of people who are sick of “Republican ideology”, and that irritation formed an important component of the 2006 reversals. However, that should not be mistaken for an embracing of “Democratic ideology” (moderate Republicans and disaffected Republicans turned Democrats did very well in 2006). Coalition conservative and Democratic blogosphere liberals both tend to make the mistake of assuming the equation that anti conservative nut = liberal. It doesn’t. McCain is much less vulnerable to the anti-right wing feeling in this country than Romney (because he intentionally staked a position to the right in the primaries) and particularly Huckabee would have been.
“He’s an empty suit. A tool of the Daley machine. How does one go from one term boy wonder to President? Connections – the kind of connections the Daley machine specializes in.”
I call bullsh*t counselor. Claimed guilt by association (Obama is a Chicago politician, he interacts with other Chicago politicians, therefore he is a tool of the Daley machine). Pathetic child logic of geographical association unworthy of one who represents the people in criminal cases.
Mike Royco you are not.
BlueJay, I know you are intelligent and a news junkie who keeps yourself well informed. I also know you will vote (or not) after careful consideration and doing what you’ve chosen as the best route.
I do want to give you a couple of things to consider. Remember back on that snowy February night the Democratic caucus was held in Kansas? Remember how overwhelmed the organizers were? Now, think about this world tour Obama is currently undertaking. Think about the organization and planning and scheduling that had to go into this trip. The night before he left America Secretary of State Rice sent an ORDER to all American embassies telling them they COULD NOT help him! He has surrounded himself with some great talent or this tour wouldn’t have been so well orchestrated! And when he speaks he inspires, I know not you, but many, me included. So he can speak in a way that inspires many and unlike the current idiot in charge he doesn’t embarrass. He obviously is talented in choosing people with talents.
Inspirational and knows how to choose excellent people to help him. Aren’t those two traits alone indicative of a great leader?
You told us within the last few days of how you led coworkers by trusting them to do their jobs, you inspired them with the trust you placed in them and their abilities. So you know leadership talents. Look a closer at Obama.
Lastly, remember the judges. Remember that probably two, maybe three Supremes will be nominated by the next president. Remember how long their terms last, and how fairly evenly divided the Court currently is. One more conservative vote on that Court and … I’ll let you fill in the blank because you know all the areas “social” conservatives would like to legislate morality and might make inroads with just one more vote. Do you want to be a theology? Of course you don’t!
So think about these things while making up your mind. I trust that whatever you decided it will be the best decision you can make and live with. We all look ourselves in the mirror daily and I find that a personal area of great import! I know you do too.
Here is a more informative view of the rise of Barack Obama in Chicago and Illinois politics. Daley’s support of Barack Obama in the presidential race was very much after the fact of Obama’s rise.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/01/14/obama/
“Lastly, remember the judges. Remember that probably two, maybe three Supremes will be nominated by the next president. Remember how long their terms last, and how fairly evenly divided the Court currently is. One more conservative vote on that Court and … I’ll let you fill in the blank because you know all the areas “social” conservatives would like to legislate morality and might make inroads with just one more vote. Do you want to be a theocracy? Of course you don’t!”
The Federal Judge issue is one of the most important aspects of this presidential race, and why we really need a Democrat in the executive branch. My concern is that we really under threat of losing ideological balance in the federal judiciary.
Nope.
The real issue that clouds John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) is the fact that the guy would be seventy-two-fuc#ing-years old the day he took office.
Yeah, he’s got a feisty old 96-year-old mother who recommends Republic Party voters “hold their nose” and vote for her son. But the other half of McC*nt’s DNA involves a father who, when he was McBush’s age, had been dead two years.
McSame is a beaten-down, rode-hard, crippled in mind and body recovering sexagenarian who can’t yet get his mind around “…the Google.” He looks at Iraq as his redemption for losing the war in Vietnam and he thinks Iraq and Pakistan share a common border. His confusion of Suni Muslims and Shi’ite Muslims is toss off (by his SUPPORTER Brit Hume as, “A senior moment.”
When people come to grips with the very real prospect that McBush’s vice-presidential choice would likely be in the Oval Office in a heartbeat, we’ll see just how much faith America has in the judgment of the guy who graduated fifth-from-the-bottom of his class.
Good morning all:
I am reading several posts about how one should vote for so and so because:
Iran may attack us
Because our Republic will become a theocracy
Because Blacks will inslave whites
Because we won’t have health care
Because our taxes will go up
Because oil companies will raise prices even more
Because of Chicago Politics
Just my observation.
I would like to suggest that one should vote for a candidate because they like the candidate’s ideas. Not because they are afraid of their opponent being elected.
Just my opinion.
“The real issue that clouds John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) is the fact that the guy would be seventy-two-fuc#ing-years old the day he took office.”
Saying it doesn’t make it so. I don’t think you will find the idea that a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush’s third term will be as widespread as you think. And in the post Reagan era, the age issue is hardly a killer. However, once again, the important test looming on the horizon for McCain is the Republican Convention, where it may be hard for him to publically distance himself from the issues that Bush Lite has laid his stamp on in front of the groups of hard right partisans who have made up so many of the convention’s rank and file.
Well LLTVET, some of us will vote because we like the candidates ideas, others will vote for the candidate they’ve decided is the better of two choices. Sometimes better isn’t much.
This year, so far, I’m excited about voting FOR, but I understand voting against.
I wish everyone would vote. Voter apathy is an area that just makes me angry. Is it still true that a majority of Americans don’t vote? That’s inexcusable!
Oh, and thanks for correcting my “theology,” to theocracy. I saw it as I hit post. I never see errors before I hit post, and some I never see ever…
This is really funny:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
“He ventured forth to bring light to the world
The anointed one’s pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action – and a blessing to all his faithful followersGerard Baker
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.
The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.
When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: “Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?”
In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.
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And so it was, in the fullness of time, before the harvest month of the appointed year, the Child ventured forth – for the first time – to bring the light unto all the world.
He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the
Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.
And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.
From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior Petraeus tried to destroy it.
And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in disaster, the Child’s very presence suddenly brought forth a great victory for the forces of the light.
And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy ploughshares.
From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered through the gate seated on an ass. The crowds of network anchors who had followed him from afar cheered “Hosanna” and waved great palm fronds and strewed them at his feet.
In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in peace.
As word spread throughout the land about the Child’s wondrous works, peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites.
And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of the Child’s journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over.
The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child was the one generations had been waiting for.
And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in foreclosure were able to borrow again.
Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it.
And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of The New York Times.
Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached to them at length.
But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had waited for him.
And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food but all they had was five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the multitudes. And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets.
Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy. Even the beauteous Princess Carla of the tribe of the Bruni was struck by awe and she was great in love with the Child, but he was tempted not.
On the Seventh Day he walked across the Channel of the Angles to the ancient land of the hooligans. There he was welcomed with open arms by the once great prophet Blair and his successor, Gordon the Leper, and his successor, David the Golden One.
And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and singing: “Yes, We Can.”
True Linda. I would just like to point out that our country has survived 8 years of Clinton followed by 8 years of Dubya. Perhaps the fear is a bit misplaced.
I didn’t intend to correct you. The posters knew what you meant.
I would wonder if voter apathy would be remedied if the fear of voting for the wrong candidate were taken out of politics.
Mary
Why do Democrats always try to sound like Republicans, when they are running for President, if “Republican Ideology” is “taking us down the toilet”?
At one point, I wasn’t going to vote either. I know McCain is running as a Republican but most of his ideas are more Democrat than anything. About the only thing that separates him from the Democrats is his stand on abortion. I don’t understand why the democrats aren’t for him.
However, the more I hear Obama(which he really says nothing about what he is going to do, the more I am leaning to voting for McCain just to keep Obama out. Personality without substance is an empty shell.
Talking about what the current administration did or didn’t do, does not tell me what he is going to do. That didn’t win the last two elections and it most likely won’t again. And it shouldn’t. If a candidate can’t tell us what he will do for us, why should we vote for him. Complaining and whining shouldn’t ever win an election but promises can.
Heaven help us if we vote on charisma and not what a candidate will do for our country.
VOILLAH!!
My husband doesn’t vote, doesn’t register to vote, says stupid things like if voting worked it would be illegal. Boy, you should hear some of our conversations! Not really, but only because we each of us knows which hill we want to die on.
Back during the Vietnam years he voted because a staff sergeant stood over him while he marked his absentee ballot. That was the only time he voted and he didn’t want to then. This is a man I admire more than any human being! A man of intelligence, patience, a hard-working individual, a funny and fun guy. He doesn’t vote! (throws up hands, shrugs shoulders. maybe that’s why I blog about politics. can’t talk to HIM about it!)
Your thought is worth pondering (wonder if voter apathy would be remedied if the fear of voting for the wrong candidate were taken out of politics) and I will do that. I think disinterest might be the biggest reason for not voting. And thinking it wouldn’t make any difference anyway. Are you a Kansan? Considering how our POTUS is elected if you vote for a candidate without the “R” beside their name, how often has the vote counted? Enough of that kind of resignation and it probably won’t change, as it hasn’t changed, kinda futile, huh!?
Daley machine.
Tony Rezko. ‘Nuff said.
Agnatha
Obama used legal challenges to knock other Black Democrats off the ballot.
Obama made buddies with Pastor Wright.
Obama got the support of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.
Mob families have power struggles, sometimes.
Political machines also have power struggles.
Obama fought for power WITHIN the dirty Daily machine in Chicago.
LLTVET, yes we survived 8 years of Clinton and I have hope we will survive 8 full years of bush. Since he has a few months left to cause even greater harm, I will reserve final judgment. War mongering and saber rattling is still happening and he certainly could decide to invade Iran.
Do you see importance in Supreme Court nominations? Do you see a current need to think about the make up of that Court?
lindainks55
Posted July 25, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink
Do you see importance in Supreme Court nominations? Do you see a current need to think about the make up of that Court?
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It is for this very reason I will be voting for McCain. The same court that gave suspected terrorist the same rights you and I have under the US constitution doesn’t need more liberal judges.
Good point Linda. I am a resident of Wichita. I’m lucky, my Libertarian vote will do nothing but advance the ideas that I like the best. Here in Kansas it is usually irrelevant, as you say. So that is why I find it so strange that people will see the reason to “warn” other bloggers.
Now such bloggers in Michigan, Colorado etc. That may be a different story.
Actually Linda. I won’t objecte to any SCOTUS decisions.
Some disagree about the DC gun decision. Some (like Observer) disagree with Gitmo decisions.
The point is that even though the SCOTUS is so evenly split in ideaology, it is lopsided in party appointments. Reagan appointed O’Conner who was a pretty strong advocate for Roe.
I have to consider your point a bit oversimplified. Just my opinion.
LLTVET, I won’t give up, and I will fight the resignation attitude. Kansas can be better! I do have HOPE (there’s that word again!). These old coots won’t last forever and younger people don’t have the same regressive ideas. Thank goodness! ;-)
Linda
You are drinking too much koolaide.
Obama has a shot, I grant you that.
However, if Obama is elected POTUS, Obama will destroy the Democrat Party.
It will be painful, I fear for my country, but in the end, there is a silver lining to the storm cloud named Obama.
Obama is an empty suit.
You libs who think that Bush is stupid, McCain is stupid, and Obama is smart, need to ask yourselves a few questions:
Is speaking skill, alone, all that is important to a Presidential candidate? If you answer “yes” to this question, this question follows; Haven’t you heard all of Obama’s stutters and “ahs” and “ums” when he tries to talk without a teleprompter? Obama is horrible at ad-lib.
Do you consider speaking skill, alone, as the sole determination of intelligence?
Every con-artits, every flim-flam man must some what intelligent. Every con-artist must have good speaking skills.
After a certain requisite level of intelligence, aren’t there some other qualities which are more important?
Honesty, integrity, loyalty, honor, courage.
All of these traits are more important than intelligence.
Obama is very, very weak when it comes to personal character.
Obama plagerized part of his Berlin speach from Bono.
Obama is a horrible public speaker, when he does not have a teleprompter.
Obama is not that brite.
Obama is an empty suit, a dishonest con-man with a charismatic personality.
Now such bloggers in Michigan
That be me.
Voting for Barr or writing in Paul
Franklin, As you well know, I do think bush is stupid and I think those he surrounds himself with are dangerous.
I don’t think McCain is stupid. He isn’t my choice but if elected will be much better than what we have! It is a win-win situation for people who share my political philosophies. McCain has proven quite malleable. America will be in better hands come January 20, 2009.
Linda:
Priceless!!!!
Sol, ROCK ON! Are you planning on sticking around and listenging to how we should be afraid to vote for Barr? Paul?
I would like to hear those.
Good Form Linda.
Obama wants America to send $2,500 per capita to the United Nations.
How can you liberals hate NAFTA and trade agreements, and support such a huge foreign aid hand outs?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051038/posts
Major newspaper in Israel tells Obama to go home:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051005/posts
“Your spiritual mentor is Reverend Jeremiah Wright, who has praised Jimmy Carter for denouncing Zionism. Last year, the Trumpet Newsmagazine of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to Louis Farrakhan and said that he is a man who “truly epitomized greatness.” You are a member of that Church and Jeremiah Wright is its leader and your spiritual adviser.
Now you won’t go so far as to criticize Jimmy Carter, not even for meeting with the heads of Hamas, because, to paraphrase your words, “It’s not your place to criticize him.” That is, not until the next day, when you were seeking the support of Jewish leaders. Then you must have found a new place for criticism. Aren’t the Jews great for giving a guy a new vision and a sense of self-confidence? Is that what you meant by, “It’s time for change”?
Barack Hussein, we won’t hold it against you. But can you tell us what you mean by supporting a Palestinian State along side Israel? Do you mean a replay of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gaza three years ago? Do you foresee soldiers carrying men, women and children away from their homes, which are to be demolished by bulldozers? Palestinian rule brought on the endless rocket fire on Sderot and the thousands of Jewish refugees who have yet to find permanent homes or means of a steady income. Is that your vision of a new hope that Farakkhan’s Final Call website praises you for?
Barack Hussein, why don’t you just go home? Your visit to Israel this week is not because you’re looking out for the wellbeing of Israel and the Jewish people. You’re coming to Israel looking for the Jewish vote; your goal is to speak with the Jewish American voters through the press coverage of this tour to the holy land. You want them to think that you took the time off from your busy campaign to further peace in the Middle East. Your hope is that enough stupid Jews will misread the message and take it as an act of support for Israel.
Don’t use us or our land as a photo-op to transmit a twisted call for support to Jewish-American voters. You don’t fool us. We know who you and your friends are.
Barack Hussein, why don’t you just go home? But on the way out, remember the words you heard here from the proud Jewish settlers in Judea and Samaria: “This is our land!” We are back after two thousand years of forced exile and we are not about to leave it again.”
Expect commercials using Obama’s own words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs&feature=related
After hearing Dr. Paul speak on the house floor, it pains me that we have the likes of McCain and Obama as our only ‘real’ choice. Both are so far out of touch with reality they will never find a solution.
This isn’t and election cycle, this is American (Election) Idol 2008. Barack’s fiscal policy will bankrupt this nation. His globalization of the economy will land us at the bottom of the food chain.
McCain is still trying to figure out how to spell economy. IMHO he is extremely ignorant. His foreign policy will break the back of the military.
Choosing the lesser of two evils? Nah, it is more like choosing the weapon that will kill you.
Sol Dev
The President has virtually nothing to do with the economy.
High taxes are bad for the economy.
Heavy regulation is bad for the economy.
However, we have to fight the idea that the President is, somehow, the “CEO” of the American economy.
The President is a bit player, in economic matters.
That has always been the case.
The President has virtually nothing to do with the economy.
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What a moronic statement. Veto power? Power of the pen? Disband the unconstitutional Federal reserve? Abolish the 16th Amendment? Foreign policy? Domestic policy?
Well Franklin, at least in the current case your ‘bit player’ statement is right. Anyone recall what’s said about the ‘Carter Economy’?
Comprehensive Spending Controls: John McCain will institute broad reforms to control spending:
The McCain administration would reserve all savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations in the fight against Islamic extremists for reducing the deficit. Since all their costs were financed with deficit spending, all their savings must go to deficit reduction.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/JobsforAmerica/reform.htm
SAVINGS??? WTF world is he living in? We are hemorrhaging borrowed cash in both theaters from every possible orifice. How the hell is that a) victory and WTF is the (b savings?
“Major newspaper in Israel tells Obama to go home”
Wrong. A letter published in an Israeli newspaper tells Obama to go home.
There is obviously a substantial difference.
Sounds like he’s come up with a genius plan, but shouldn’t he put the deficit spending into the S.S. system! LOL
Clar, are you thinking what I’m thinking? An Israeli paper published a Mccain letter to the editor?
Look at the headline, then look at the smiling faces. Is there a hidden agenda here!
John McCain believes we should send a strong message to world markets. Under his plan, the United States will be telling oil producing countries and oil speculators that our dependence on foreign oil will come to an end – and the impact will be lower prices at the pump.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/JobsforAmerica/relief.htm
So McCain speaks and suddenly the dollar is strong again, Canada, Mexico and Venezuela all lower their oil prices? And I thought Obama was Mr. Pie in the Sky
John McCain’s policies will increase the value of the dollar and thus reduce the price of oil. In recent years, the declining value of the dollar has added to the cost of imported oil. This will change. Americans will have a stronger economy, a stronger dollar and greater purchasing power for oil, gas and food.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/JobsforAmerica/relief.htm
mmmmmmK, HOW What policies?
John McCain believes we should institute a summer gas tax holiday. Hard-working American families are suffering from higher gasoline prices. John McCain called on Congress to suspend the 18.4 cent federal gas tax and 24.4 cent diesel tax from Memorial Day to Labor Day.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/JobsforAmerica/relief.htm
How will he pay for this?
Wonder if Mccain showed up to help block the anti-0il-speculator bill?
It is impossible to put any money into the Social Security system.
Social Security is a “pay as you go” system.
Any excess funding, over and above current benefit needs, goes into government bonds.
ALL revenues, which go into government bonds, are available to the general fund.
The ONLY way to cover future Social Security needs is through economic growth.
Domestic energy production is an essential part of economic growth.
Drill here, drill now!
World Net Daily and Free Republic might estimate the cost of the legislation at $845 billion, but apparently the bill has bipartisan support – further the $845 billion number is inaccurate.
But, don’t take my word for it, instead of WND and FR, read the actual bill yourself.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-2433
Here are the bill’s sponsors.
Mr. OBAMA (for himself, Mr. HAGEL, Ms. CANTWELL, Mrs. FEINSTEIN, Mr. LUGAR, Mr. DURBIN, Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. BIDEN, Mr. DODD, Mr. FEINGOLD, Ms. SNOWE, Mrs. MURRAY, Mr. HARKIN, Mr. JOHNSON, Mr. SMITH, and Mr. KERRY)
To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-2433
NWO anyone? Why is this the US’s issue? Don’t we already contribute billions to the UN to take care of stuff like this?
BTW, how do they expect to fund this?
Capitalism is the best way to fight poverty.
Much global hunger is caused by war and tribalism.
Much starvation is the deliberate result of tyrants. Forced hunger and starvation is often an act of war against an enemy.
However, where that is not the case, economic development is the key.
“Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a life time.”
Obama: “At sea without a teleprompter”:
http://www.obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/
Franklin,
“Obama is not that brite.”
Quite a trick that the very words by which you try to dismiss Barack Obama actually reveal your unfitness to judge who is and isn’t “brite.” Had it been intentional, couldn’t have been any funnier.
The stink of Wingnut desperation is getting overwhelming in here. I predict that Franklin will commence yelling in a moment.
“Capitalism is the best way to fight poverty.”
Yeah. Impoverishing small economies for the benefit of larger ones works SO well to lessen the burdens of poor folks.
Obama is reminiscent of Porky Pig, when is doesn’t have a teleprompter or piece of paper to recite from.
when is = when he
So Franklin. Since Dubya is a complete idiot speaking, McCain is painful to watch, and Obama needs a teleprompter. Why not vote for Barr?
CF
First,
I am not running for President.
Secondly
“Brite” does have many meanings, when Obama is the subject:
http://www.brite.tcu.edu/wright_response.asp
http://www.blogger.com/profile/12253221615217503728
And finally
I am a blogger with ideas that are sound, and spelling and grammar that are not as often perfect.
Who cares?
Obama is running for President, and he makes far more public mistakes than any of us, on this Blog.
That you ALWAYS make personal attacks against other bloggers only shows how weak your ideas really are.
CF
Please tell me how America has ever “impoverished” another country, would you?
Would the people on a bananna plantation, in South America be better off if Americans quit eating banannas?
You radical liberals hate free trade, because you don’t really want capitalism to spread.
Intead, you want massive “foreign aid” to keep people dependant on the American government.
As always, liberals never support economic independance.
Franklin,
Given your pompous talking-down to others and overestimation of your own understanding, your penchant for self-refuting statements provides me with an irresistable target. Call ungenerosity my special character flaw.
Then you asked this rhetorical question:
“When has America ever impoverished another country?”
Huh. Ever heard of the United Fruit Company, Franklin?
“UFCO had a mixed record on promoting the development of the nations in which it operated. In Central America, the Company built extensive railroads and ports and provided employment and transportation. UFCO also created numerous schools for the people who lived and worked on Company land. On the other hand, it allowed vast tracts of land under its ownership to remain uncultivated and, in Guatemala and elsewhere, it discouraged the government from building highways, which would lessen the profitable transportation monopoly of the railroads under its control.
In 1954, the democratically elected Guatemalan government of Colonel Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán was toppled by a group of Guatemalan army officers who invaded from Honduras with the covert assistance of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (see Operation PBSUCCESS). Before that, the directors of UFCO had lobbied to convince the Truman and Eisenhower administrations that Colonel Arbenz intended to align Guatemala with the Soviet bloc. Besides the disputed issue of Arbenz’s allegiance to Communism, the directors of UFCO may have feared Arbenz’s stated intention of purchasing uncultivated land from the company (at the value declared in tax returns) and redistributing it among Native American peasants…The overthrow of Arbenz, however, failed to benefit the Company. Its stock market value declined along with its profit margin. The Eisenhower administration proceeded with antitrust action against the company, which forced it to divest in 1958. In 1972, the company sold off the last of their Guatemalan holdings after over a decade of decline.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company
I suppose you COULD make the argument that they were good for Central America in providing certain economic benefits. But as with most of your arguments, you’d be arguing theology rather than facts. And the claim that these economic pluses outweighed the economic, political, and social negatives sounds more than a little colonialist of you, Franklin, wouldn’t you say? “White man’s burden” and all that.
Obama without teleprompter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU
Obama, again, without teleprompter:
http://www.reversespin.com/?p=829
Given Franklin’s posting of the doltish “comedy” (cough, cough) piece upthread, and given outlander’s sniffling elsewhere that the rest of the world “doesn’t understand America’s issues,” this one’s for you.
“EARTH, July 25, 2008 — The entire world drafted an open letter to Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) today, asking him to drop out of the U.S. presidential race and concede the presidency to Senator Barack Obama (D-Illinois).
“Ordinarily we do not interfere in America’s internal affairs,” said a spokesman for the rest of the planet, “even when it has become clear, as in recent years, that American voters are about to elect ignorant, incoherent buffoons who will add immeasurably to our immiseration. But this time is different. We didn’t think it was worth our while to step up for your Carter or Mondale or Dukakis or Gore or Kerry — besides, we’d only be bombed or invaded for our trouble. But this time, I mean, come on — you’ve got to be kidding me, right? Please tell me you’re kidding.”
Pointing to polls that show Obama leading McCain 94 percent to 6 percent everywhere on the inhabited globe except the United States, where most polls give Obama a narrow one- to three-point lead, the entire world suggested that Americans might not be sufficiently informed about the U.S. election. “Look, this isn’t funny,” said a world representative, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “You’ve got one candidate who has a reasonably sane and comprehensive foreign policy combined with detailed knowledge of American domestic affairs, and another candidate who isn’t always sure which country he’s talking about and whose domestic policy consists of telling people to stop whining. Why are you even throwing this open to a vote? Are you people out of your minds?”
The world seemed to be especially impressed by Senator Obama’s recent travels, during which the presumptive Democratic nominee demonstrated a thorough grasp of world affairs while draining a three-pointer “from downtown,” as one Kuwaiti commentator noted.
The newly-formed Sunni-Shi’ite Reconciliation Committee, meeting in Damascus, issued a press release timed to coincide with the world’s open letter. “We are deeply disturbed,” the committee wrote, “that the United States might elect a president who does not know the difference between Sunni and Shi’ite Muslims and who has to have a special friend whisper in his ear every time he makes a mistake. We wonder whether Americans would elect a president who did not understand the difference between your Catholics and your Protestants. And so it is that we stand united, as we have not stood in centuries, in our conviction that such a man is not fit to serve as President of the United States.”
On a related note, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki asked the entire world why the U.S. media have failed to acknowledge his government’s endorsement of Obama’s plan for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. “I do not understand what is wrong with their Washington Post,” Maliki said in a prepared statement. “I recall that it used to be a pretty good newspaper. But now I fear that its editorial pages have been taken over by what the Qu’ran calls ‘a bunch of wankers.’”
Unfortunately, representatives of the McCain campaign reported that the candidate did not receive the world’s missive, most likely because it was sent to the Senator via e-mail. “I assure you that the Senator is completely up to speed on new technologies and is aware of e-mail,” said one staffer. “But he was shaking the laptop in order to get the mail to come out, and he wound up throwing it against a wall. We want to point out, however, that the Senator does not have a problem with his temper, that he is aware of the existence of the Goggle, and that the Internets suffered no permanent damage as a result of this event.”
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/25/world_writes_open_letter_to_mc/
CF
Would the people in foreign countries be better off or worse off, if American companies left?
Simple question.
For you in the “hate America first” crowd, the answer is not so simple, huh?
Obama
Lost without a teleprompter:
http://www.theyoungturks.com/story/2008/6/4/2251/39667/Diary/Barack-Obama-quot-Mr-Teleprompter-quot-
People in other countries know better than Americans what is good for America??
Who would believe that nonsense?
Porky Pig is Obama’s real father…It is Real…
Franklin,
“White man’s burden” all over again, eh Franklin? Those poor brown folks sure do need us to make their economies work!
But to answer your question, the only sensible answer is “it depends” on a whole range of factors that your question deliberately evades. What country? What company? For you in the “America is NEVER wrong, EVER!” crowd, Franklin, specifics are anathema.
Oh, and here’s your dumbass Commander-In-Chief when he thinks the cameras are off, explaining the financial crisis by using a drunkenness metaphor one suspects he knows all too well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7522335.stm
or Studdering John
I would say the Pres. made a pretty accurate statement C3PO.
ANTI,
A bit humor-challenged there, both with regard to what you are able to understand as funny and to what actually amuses you.
In case you missed, it, ANTI, that’s another way of saying that you just aren’t very bright.
ANTI,
Of course you would: you’re an idiot.
“hate America first”
I am so freakin sick of this knee jerk “I can’t come up with an answer” Hanity (sp?) bullsh!t phrase. Don’t agree with the GOP party line, you must either blame or hate America first. What a moronic hysterical empty phrase. Used by moronic hysterical party line toers. Can’t back up your crap so you go to the blame/hate card. How utterly pathetic.
Step up to the plate and engage any of the following. Or do you hate America?
blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/mccain-closing-gap-where-it-counts/#comment-389844
blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/mccain-closing-gap-where-it-counts/#comment-389857
blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/mccain-closing-gap-where-it-counts/#comment-389861
blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/mccain-closing-gap-where-it-counts/#comment-389863
To be honest, your shilling and sheepish behavior “amuse” me C3PO. It is also somewhat funny.
Please continue…
And more to the point, ANTI, it was the Bush Administration’s unwillingness to use the SEC to REGULATE and OVERSEE the futures markets that put us where we are today. If it’s “accurate” for Bush to say that everybody in the markets was “getting drunk,” it’s even more accurate to say that the Bush Administration was asleep at the wheel and shirking its duty.
CF
Type “punch bowl federal reserve” into your browser.
I have not even done it yet, and I know that there will be many, many hits.
The truth is, low interest rates are the “punch bowl” (spiked with alcohol, of course.)
The analogy has been around for a very long time.
“Taking away the punch bowl” means raising interest rates.
CF’s European chorus, who know, according to CF, more than Americans about our own issues. The chorus:
Oh Obama! He wants change! He’s so young and cute and black and he can speak so well. And did you know that he doesn’t even sweat. He truly is overqualified to lead the entire world. …oh, oh… OBAMAGASM!!!!!
I don’t like McCain or Obama because I love America.
CF
The American government can not “oversee” financial matters that largely happen “overseas” very well, can it?
You blame everything on Bush, you are ridiculous.
Trying to go all smarmy there, I see, AuNTy. No surprise. Given the total failure of Repukes such as yourself, acting smug is all you got.
Given the total failure of Repukes such as yourself, acting smug is all you got.
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I find that I am slowly leaning toward success, not failure. I can’t speak for others.
I have giddy, happy, fulfilled, satisfied, and what the hell?, as well as sarcasm, but rarely smug.
Where was John Kerry in the polls, in late July?
Where was Al Gore in the polls, in late July?
Where was Clinton, in the polls, both times, in late July?
The truth is, Obama should be far ahead right now, and Obama is not far ahead at all.
The bloom is falling off of the Obama rose.
Franklin,
Perhaps in your construction of reality, Wall Street is “overseas.” But given that the Dow and NASDAQ are less than twelve nautical miles offshore, overseeing it was George Bush’s responsibility.
According to you, nothing that happened under Bush’s Presidency is his fault. You Repukes are like children–or psychopaths–in your collective denial of responsibility for your actions.
outlander,
Hard to know what to say after your attempt at humor that wound up merely nauseating.
Did someone say polling data. All of this coverage and Obama doesn’t even get a bump! It appears that McCain has a solid floor of support.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/109060/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Maintains-Slim-Advantage-Over-McCain.aspx
Very slight, statistically meaningless margin for the messiuh.
So no one can defend McCain’s moronic rhetorical ‘policies’?
It is such a shame that the democrat liberals hate Bush so much that they are completely blinded by it. You want to prove that he is an idiot yet he scored higher than Gore. He has made some good decisions when it came to the war. It has protected our country from attacks by the terrorists and it has freed the Iraqis. To call him a war monger is totally wrong.
Then you want to go an impeach him on that. You can’t impeach a President just because you disagree with his decisions. Impeachment is when a President has broken the law.
But the main thing is your hatred for him has gotten so out of control that you would be willing to vote for anything that is running as a Democrat. Sometimes I think you mostly hated him from the beginning because he beat your boy, Gore. Then your party was so desperate they ran Kerry against him. Now you have this hollow man who is filled with fancy words written for him. He has nothing to say. He is not Martin Luther King Jr., no matter how badly you want it to be true. And if he were, it is not words of ideas that run the Presidency. It is integrity, honesty, courage, wisdom, strength, and yes experience that is needed to run a country as important as the USA.
Yes, I said it, the USA is IMPORTANT!!! Other countries look to us for help and encouragement and hope. If we lose that, then we are the fools. Just ask someone from a country who had no freedom and no hope. Quit thinking that you sound intelligent and above your fellow citizens when you speak badly of the USA. You only sound like a fool that doesn’t know or appreciate what you have by being born in the USA.
btw, I thought outlander said it right on. Good one Outlander.
I don’t hate Bush, he’s too pathetic for that and besides, I have better things to occupy my time. I am , however, mad at, embarrassed by, and ashamed of his actions. And I suggest I am not alone in those feelings!
“Daley machine.
“Tony Rezko. ‘Nuff said.”
And there you go, a post with all the depth and intelligence of a dime.
Well said, gster!
It is such a shame that the democrat liberals hate Bush so much that they are completely blinded by it.
gster said it so well, I almost hate to add to it. Hate Bush? Not hardly, but I do hate what he and his have done to this country. Not by accident, either, but by pure, unadulterated intentions.
So why is it that you on the right so blindly love Bush? What’s there to love about a stumbling, bumbling, dry-drunk? Fact is, I don’t think you DO love him, but you’re too pitiful to admit that he hasn’t done you and yours a bit of good in 8 years. No matter how “rich” you think you all are, you’re dirt under the feet of the current PTB and mean nothing to them. You’re just too blind to see it.
You want to prove that he is an idiot yet he scored higher than Gore.
First of all, we don’t have to prove anything. Dubya has done an excellent job of proving his idiocy all by himself. As for “scores”, just how many years ago are we talking about? Just how many glasses of bourbon does it take to start damaging brain cells? Just how much cocaine?
If you haven’t watched the link I provided here a few days ago, showing the blinding difference between Bush when campaigning for TX governor vs. the man we see today, I’m happy to provide it again. If you have an explanation for this, other than alcohol and drugs, please provide it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo&feature=related
Yes, I said it, the USA is IMPORTANT!!!
And now all you have to do is prove it, meaning you have to care that jobs have gone away, that we’re mired in a war with no end in sight, that people are unable to afford decent health care, that corporations are hiding their money in offshore accounts. The thing is, you don’t care. So go wave your flag and shout about how much you love your country, and keep lying to yourself. You love YOU.
Again, watch the conventions. Obama and McCain both face a real test, Obama to unite his party, and McCain to keep his party from unraveling while not allowing the far right wingers to remind foul weather voters why they were so irritated with Republicans.
Predestined, calm down. It’s going to be okay. I never said I loved Bush. I said he did the right thing by going to Iraq. However, you are right, he did some bad things.
He did not secure the borders and thereby allowing the illegal aliens to keep on coming in and taking our jobs. Yes, the illegal aliens are a perfect example of the outsiders knowing what America has to offer. Why is it that they can see that and you cannot. You still believe it was jobs Americans didn’t want. I think dems and eliites really do believe that because they themselves think they are better than that. They are above being a trashman or working with the disabled or even working at WalMart. It is you and your elitist leftist dems who are in love with yourselves.
You want it all for America and say to hell with the rest of the world. Well, it just doesn’t work that way. When a person (or a country) has something and doesn’t share it, they open the doorway to envy and jealousy by others. I believe that is the “bad image” you say America has.
If you were to rid the world of the dictators who want it all for themselves, including complete control over everyone, and replace it with a government that allows freedom for it’s people then you would be giving instead if taking. So tell me, when has giving to others who don’t have become a love of oneself?
First of all, “Borg”, I am perfectly calm. Perhaps it’s your blood pressure that’s the problem?
Second, you’re preaching to the wrong “liberal” about illegals. I’m all for cracking down on them and have been called “racist” by others in my party for saying so. See? I don’t have to toe the party line. And, no, I don’t believe it was “jobs Americans wouldn’t take”. That’s pure b.s.
Third, where did I say I want it all for America? I would, however, like to see our country elevated beyond our leaders being the butt of jokes of other countries. I’d like to see us once again being a self-suffient country, where we manufacture what we need, not buy it from China; where we grow our own food, not buy it from somewhere else; where we once again lead the world in so many things that I can’t list.
When does giving to others who don’t have become a love of oneself?
I don’t know where you came up with that, but it wasn’t what I wrote. I wrote of caring, not giving. There’s a difference, although they can go hand in hand.
Not everyone wants to be an American, especially not in this day and age where the whole world is watching what could be our destruction. There is no perfect country, and we sure aren’t even close to it.
Salt of the earth, down to earth, ready to give her shirt to a needy friend, always there with sleeves rolled up or the shoulder or kind word, works three or four jobs at a time to support herself and her children Predestined being called an elitist. Well, now I’ve heard it all!
Dear Borg Hunter,
“To call him a war monger is totally wrong.”
Yeah–cause, like, Iraq TOTALLY attacked us and stuff!
I do, indeed, hate George Bush. Not for who he is, because who he is is a sad, entitled, narcissistic ne’er do well who has been given everything he ever had.
No, I hate him for what he has done: from stealing two Presidential elections (in Florida and in Ohio), to attacking a country that did not attack us, for killing hundreds of thousands of its inhabitants and displacing millions of others, for spying on Americans, for torturing and murdering, for destroying the rule of law by using the Justice Department as a political attack machine, for allowing the destruction of a major American city and participating in its ethnic cleansing, for using the Federal treasury to benefit himself and his friends.
All of this seems to be OK with you, or not even to exist. The fact that you are unable or unwilling to see it is your problem–not mine.
Real Americans hate tyranny. You seem unable or unwilling to take a stand for the Constitution, Borg Hunter. You would prefer to defend the indefensible actions of George W. Bush. That’s a pity. History will judge you as harshly as it will judge him, for enabling an American tyrant.
Franklin writes, “However, if Obama is elected POTUS, Obama will destroy the Democrat Party.”
Thank God!
We’ll finally be rid of the Democrat Party and idjuts like Franklin can stop calling it that.
Then we’ll only be left with the Democratic Party.
“They are above being a trashman or working with the disabled or even working at WalMart. ”
Well, you’re right about the Wal mart bit there “borghunter”.
I’d rather DIE than work at a place where I have to sing about how much I love the company.
But your judgment of what liberals will or will not do as work?
Ask me how I spent MY day.
Oh and linda? I do consider very carefully whether to vote or not.
But here in Kansas? I have a luxury.
My vote or lack thereof will make absolutely no difference at all.
As to whether Obama would be better than McCain?
I don’t know about that. I really do not.
Obama has fallen in love with being loved. And once you get addicted to that drug, you are always wanting more.
Well? My “love”? It can’t give Obama anything. And that is just about how I think he sees the situation as well.
Remember when Republicans in 04 just couldn’t get enough of smearing John Kerry for being married to a rich woman–heir to the Heinz fortune?? Well…old John has him a blonde trophy wife who is ALSO a heir to a beer distributorship worth millions and not a peep out of Republicans about it.
Hypocrisy as usual….